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#1569. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#435. To: All (#0)

You are here:

Just about anything written about Climate Change pre 2010 is hopelessly out of date.

Any CC article talking Centuries, or 2200 or even 2050 is way off the mark.

“It appears that we’re about to cross a threshold in summer . . . you might even call it a tipping point as we go into a net energy absorption” of the higher elevations, Box said. “Then we’ll see the melt area expanding abruptly and potentially covering the entire ice sheet in summer for the first time in observations.”

Box said the shift may take another decade or so, provided that current trends continue. “We’re right on the threshold.”

Colgan said it’s difficult to make predictions based on the reflectivity record, but it would be significant if 2012 becomes another record melt year.

"Box said the shift may take another decade or so...." like this guy, in Greenland now....

2012 Greenland ice melt greatest ever.

We've got months....

The UK’s Hadley Centre climate change model, best known forwarning of catastrophic losses of Amazon forest, predicts that undercurrent levels of greenhouse gas emissions, the chances of such adrought would rise from 5% now (one every 20 years) to 50% by 2030, andto 90% by 2100.

(We won't be here in 2050...;}

The collapse of the Amazon is part of the reversal of the carbon cycle projected to happen around 3°C, a view confirmed by a range ofresearchers using carbon-coupled climate models. 3 degrees C would likely see increasing and significantly large areas of the terrestrial environment being rendered essentially uninhabitable by drought andheat.

3C happens by 2020....

Rainfall in Mexico and Central America is projected to fall by50%. Southern Africa would be exposed to perennial drought, a hugeexpanse centred on Botswana could see a remobilisation of old sanddunes, much as is projected to happen earlier in the US west. TheRockies would be snowless and the Colorado river will fail half the time.

Hoover Dam stops producing electricity by 2017....;}

Drought intensity in Australia could triple.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-04 7:03:21 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   7:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1570. To: All (#1569)

- The fact that would-be Elites are using Global Warming to justify an agenda of global fascism doesn't change the fact that it's a real thing... But "science" has become so politicized that you really have to take all their assertions with a grain of salt. CO2 is an easy target, but doesn't hold-up to logic. The biosphere is essentially a global engine that maintains a CO2/O2 balance. Puny naked apes might be able to make that pendulum swing a little farther than it would have without them, but it's really kind of hubris to think that we could 'break' the system by feeding it a little more fuel than it would have had otherwise.

This is wrong.

CO2 = HEAT

At 400 ppm you can accurately say that 2 C over the 1760 Baseline has been reached.

And burning 1.2 Trillion BBLs and putting that into the atmosphere will do the trick.

And the Climate you see now is from the 1990's inputs.... :twisted: :? 8-)

We've got months to collapse our emissions by 60% and that %age rises by the week now, until we can do 100% immediately and it will have no effect.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   7:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1571. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#29. To: nolu chan (#11)

And what now prevents the Federal government from offering you the option of buying a buggy whip or of paying a tax for belonging to that class of people who do not own a buggy whip?

And this is important.

The Federal gov't is offering ZERO options.

And forcing a tax.

Again, and time is no factor here, the Ability of the USSA to tax is rooted in the Illegally ratified 16th Amendment which was then used to create the illegal Federal Reserve Corporation.

And good luck on that IRS enforcement...this will get intertwined with FICA & SS....there will be no other way to collect.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-04 7:55:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #30. To: All (#29)

And $350 per month is the Min that people are paying.

With 50 Million on Food Stamps

and

100 million either un or under employed.

So let's say, for shi ts and giggles, $200 the month is the Min buy in.

There is ZERO way that the aformentioned pop has $2400 the year to pay....

while at the same time,

the USSA is putting ZERO limits on the Costs of Medical Health Care.

This dog won't hunt.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   8:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1572. To: redleghunter (#1565)

To: mcgowanjm, Liberator, A K A Stone

Three things that LF likes to avoid now:

Market Manipulation....

Peak Oil.....

Climate Change...

You are forgetting Muslim manipulation. You seem to forget about that here in the padded room:

Power over Religion always.

And the implication is that Muslims are causing all the above.

While TOTALLY not the Israelis....

That's ignorance.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   8:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1573. To: redleghunter, All (#1572)

And just exactly when did you realize that muslims who claim jesus as a prophet were the lesser religion to Jews who say Jesus never even existed....;}

Around 9/11 maybe....LMFAO....

Market Manipulation Climate change and Peak Oil.

LIeBor EIA 6 C rise by 2035 USSA Oil Consumption drops by 4 MMBD since Sep 2011....;}

NOTE:

Fewer cartoons....more facts.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   8:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1574. To: redleghunter, SJN, All (#1564)

Really? Hey SJN, jimmy thinks there are no women here at LF.

Waiting for that.

The Fact that I couldn't tell and SJN has

1) Made NO ATTEMPT to clarify

while

2) sounding EXACTLY like a woman hating Fundy....

I rest my case.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   8:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1575. To: All (#1574)

This US summer is 'what global warming looks like' By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP, July 3, 2012 news-general-20120703-US.SCI.Weird.Weather

A tree sitting atop a vehicle offers free firewood in Falls Church, Va., Mon...

WASHINGTON — If you want a glimpse of some of the worst of global warming, scientists suggest taking a look at U.S. weather in recent weeks. Horrendous wildfires. Oppressive heat waves. Devastating droughts. Flooding from giant deluges. And a powerful freak wind storm called a derecho. These are the kinds of extremes climate scientists have predicted will come with climate change, although it's far too early to say that is the cause.

although it's far too early to say that is the cause.

although it's far too early to say that is the cause.

although it's far too early to say that is the cause.

EIA says 6 C rise by 2035 on current emissions track.

So when does WaPo think will be a good time to say that Climate Change is the cause.

When Hoover dam stops producing electricity in 2017?

LMFAO....8D

This is Planet Hell.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   8:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1576. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#440. To: All (#0)

by John Glaser, July 04, 2012

Another Afghan soldier has shot and wounded five US soldiers in eastern Afghanistan on Tuesday, in the latest sign that the training mission in Afghanistan is an utter failure.

The attack took place at a NATI base in Wardak province, east of Kabul. The NATO officials called these “green-on-blue” attacks, where Afghans in the police or army attack their supposedly allied international forces. More than 20 foreign personnel have been killed in such shootings in Afghanistan this year."

Betting it's worse.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-05 9:28:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #441. To: Robin, All (#440) (Edited)

Now wait a minute.....

Latest: 191 enemy personnel killed and wounded in Gulistan, 25 vehicles destroyed Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Thursday, 15 Sya'ban 1433 Thursday, 05 July 2012 10:23

FARAH, Jul. 04 – 138 hireling troops and governmental officials have been killed, 35 others wounded as well as 25 enemy vehicles and tanks eliminated in IED, rocket and armed attacks over the past few days in Gulistan district where the enemy has mounted an offensive, according to officials reporting from Farah province.

Reports add that a heavy clash was taking place between Mujahideen and hireling ANA in the area last night when airpower of foreign troops carried out airstrikes in the battle ground and adjacent areas, hitting the hirelings and killing 80 enemy personnel as well as wounding countless others, officials in charge from the district said adding that 15 Mujahideen were also martyred (may Allah grant them the highest ranks in Jannah) and 6 others were injured.

It is said that despite the large scale enemy operation and heavy airstrikes for the past few days, they still have not managed to reach the district center."

191 ANA killed is a MAJOR battle.

And still taking place.

And the Offensive has still not reached it's target?

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-05 9:33:25 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-05   9:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1577. To: All (#1576)

Yes, children, before "wealth creators" and other masters of the universe were held up as worthy models for their 80-hour weeks and unstinting dedication to squeezing every single minute ever more tightly for a few more bucks -- before those of us who serve the creators and masters were supposed to be supinely grateful for working ever harder and longer to swell the bosses' private coffers -- there once existed the notion that there might actually be more to human life than the treadmill and the ant hill. And that we might even use the amazing technological advances that our species has produced to make life easier, richer, deeper, more engaging and humane for all of us.

All of this is long gone now, of course. As Owen Hatherly notes in the Guardian, both Right and Left have combined, for many decades, to advance the idea that pointless labor is our lot, and that we should be happy with it:"

As Religion can do Nothing to ease Human Suffering, Religion now must radically change into something else.

Why does Royalty exist?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-05   9:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1578. To: A K A Stone (#0)

When does that withdrawal start?

And I'm thinkin' that we might have maybe 8 Chinooks left in the Afghans.

And where will those 7 C 130's be comin' from that Obama is sending to the US Forest Service?....;}

#442. To: All (#0)

You know, if I was the USSA, I'd be hiring the Taliban to defend us.

They're good....;}

* Contact us.....;}

22 invaders killed as enemy’s Chinook helicopter shot down

Zabihullah Mujahid

Thursday, 15 Sya'ban 1433 Thursday, 05 July 2012 11:53

imge PAKTIKA, July 05 – A US-Nato helicopter was brought down in Paktika province on Thursday

A Mujahideen official said that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate shot the helicopter as it was about to airlift a container in Gomal district of

Paktika province at about 10:00 a.m. today causing the helicopter to fall down and setting it on fire, adding that as many as 22 US-NATO invaders were killed in the struck helicopter.

Shortly afterwards, a larger number of the enemy’s vehicles and tanks approached the site and surrounded it.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-05 11:01:38 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-05   11:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1579. To: mcgowanjm (#1573)

And just exactly when did you realize that muslims who claim jesus as a prophet were the lesser religion to Jews who say Jesus never even existed....;}

Around 9/11 maybe....LMFAO....

So you think the Muslims were just the pawns of the global masters on Wall Street?

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-05   16:17:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1580. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#444. To: All (#0) (Edited)

There are several peaks that I'm looking forward to:

Peak Monsanto

Peak Corporation

Peak Military

Peak Banker

Peak Nuclear

Peak GMO

Peak Neonicotoid

Peak Glyphosate

Peak Monsanto

But I repeat myself.....;}

" During critical first trimester development a human is no bigger than an insect so there is every reason to believe that pesticides could wreak havoc with the developing brain of a human embryo. But human embryos aren’t out in corn fields being sprayed with insecticides, are they? A recent study showed that every human tested had the world’s best-selling pesticide, Roundup, detectable in their urine at concentrations between five and twenty times the level considered safe for drinking water.xvi

The most alarming part of the neonicotinoid story is that governments and the EU to date are content to take little or no precautionary steps to stop even suspected contamination from neonicotinoids pending through long-term tests that would determine finally if they are as dangerous as considerable and growing scientific evidence says.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-06 7:38:59 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   7:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1581. To: A K A Stone (#0)

hipcrime.blogspot.com/201...dance-day-all-of-our.html

The wealthy tell us social security, retirement and health care are "unaffordable" while lining up with hat in hand for taxpayer-funded subsidies and bailouts. They call themselves "job creators" but are constantly looking for ways to eliminate jobs. Allocation of vital resources is largely dependant upon their largess, and all our arts are dependant on droppings from the table. They bankroll think-tanks, media outlets and publishing houses to disseminate their opinions and further their own agenda. They establish university chairs and sit on the boards of major public institutions. These pompous egotists are plastered on billboards and magazine covers, and they pen screeds purporting to know how to fix everything from our foreign policy to our educational system. They have an unshakable belief that they earned everything through their own superiority no matter what their background, and the rest of us must constantly bow and scrape to these masters of the universe.

Government has become a kleptocracy and a meal ticket for corrupt bureaucrats who guard their protected fiefdoms and constantly seek to widen their scope of authority to justify budget increases and feather their own nests. Small businesses are regulated out of existence by nuisance regulations while cronies are able to use government guarantees and largess to squeeze out competition and rig markets in their favor. Rich and poor alike get handouts while the productive middle class are used as tax donkeys. Old people demand their entitlements while the nation eats its seed corn.

Politics has become a bribery bazaar where politicians spend all of their time raising funds for the next election cycle...."

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1582. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Forget Universal Healthcare – The U.S. Is Bust

But we can go to war anytime anywhere...;}

No.

Single Payer Medicare/VA for ALL is doable at anytime with whatever we have.

See Cuba for details.

But not to worry.

Climate change is here now.

Hoover Dam stops producing electricity by 2017.

IT will make humans, if not extinct, less than 400 millions.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1583. To: All (#1582)

The police have become internal militarized shock troops, cracking skulls for the elites and enforcing "protest free zones" all over the world. When they aren't beating and tear-gassing protesters or spying on their fellow citizens, they are engaged in various other acts of thuggery like shooting unarmed civilians, preventing recording of their activities and harassing the poor and minorities. Tickets and fines are written up for violating pointless regulations, and millions of dollars of taxpayer money are spent on stopping victimless crimes, even as serious crimes go unpunished and entire cities become "no-go" forbidden zones.

Churches have become downscale social clubs and incubators of reactionary politics for angry white rural Americans fearful of losing their privileges. Evangelical fundamentalist mullahs militate for a theocracy while raking in millions from their "flock." They obsess over homosexuality and abortion even as their congregations experience falling living standards. Sanctimonious preachers turn out to be closet homosexuals and the Catholic church pays millions of dollars to the victims of its pedophile priests when it isn't busy hushing up the scandal.

Durable goods are made in Chinese sweatshops as cheaply as possible.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1584. To: All (#1583)

Peak Amerikan...;}

" The American public are spoiled brats, demanding the best of everything but refusing to pay for it. They believe they live in the best country on earth despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Vindictive, war-mongering, ignorant and xenophobic, they are mollycoddled and doted on by toadying politicians and corporations who constantly tell them how great they are, even though most of them are morbidly obese, gullible, barely literate, beer-swilling cretins, singularly unable to do even the simplest things for themselves. Americans look like side-show freaks festooned with piercings and tattoos and clad in garish and ill-fitting clown costumes, behaving like overgrown children in adult bodies.This clueless population is in denial and elect only “leaders” will tell them what they want to hear. Comfort and distraction are the highest goals.

When will we finally admit that modern American society is pretty much just one giant clusterfuck?

Oh, and I know it's a sin to criticize the perfect military we're all supposed to worship, but when was the last time the military actually defended the homeland of the United States, World War Two? Since then its seems we've been waging wars on the other side of the planet, conveniently often in oil-rich countries. Who is paying for our hundreds of military bases around the world, and what exactly do the American public get for their money besides lunatics trying to blow them up? Do we really need to spend more than the rest of the world combined? The military waged preemptive war on two countries that did not attack us while failing to prevent a mass slaughter in our own country. And I seem to recall scandal after scandal in recent years, from waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay, to posing with hooded prisoners at Abu Ghraib, to the Pat Tillman coverup, to urinating on corpses, to cutting off fingers and ears as trophies, to employing private Blackwater mercenaries, to no-bid contracts costing taxpayers billions, to advocating "total war" with Islam. And now drones are flying over the world's hotspots blowing up wedding parties and terminating American citizens without trial. No, I'm sorry, they are not blameless.

And before you accuse me of "hating the troops" what about the coverups of Gulf War syndrome? What about not being allowed to take photos of body bags? What about being too cheap to buy adequate body armor for combat troops? What about the treatment of patients at Walter Reed Veteran's hospital? What about the military suicides? What about politicians constantly trying to cut funding for caring for wounded veterans while voting for weapons systems even the military doesn't want? Loving war is not honoring the troops. Our institutions have failed them too.

I could go on.

071012.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1585. To: redleghunter (#1579)

So you think the Muslims were just the pawns of the global masters on Wall Street?

Every Religion is a drug....;}

See Muslim Brotherhood Zionism CIA for details.

And a BTW:

global masters = the Top 400 RtG people.

Forbes 400 gets most of 'em.

Why does royalty exist?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1586. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#449. To: Robin (#446)

I remember Beta Testing Round Up on our farm.

Even then we knew it was so toxic that we used a 'wax bar' positioned in front of the tractor to just brush over the weeds missing the money crop just inches below.

Killed everything it touched.

Which should be it's logo today.

Kills everything it touches...Round Up...by Monsanto.

1992 introduced in marriage with GMO's.

Bees begin Die Off.

Good thing Humans will be gone by 2025....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-06 8:45:56 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1587. To: mcgowanjm (#1586)

Kills everything it touches...Round Up...by Monsanto.

Unfortunately, it's very popular and I believe the best selling weed killer.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-06   9:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1588. To: A K A Stone (#0)

http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/2012/07/wide-gate-to-damnation.html

The Arctic leads the way.

We've got maybe five more good years to fuck up the planet as much as we can....

go for it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   9:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1589. To: Fred Mertz (#1587)

Unfortunately, it's very popular and I believe the best selling weed killer.

O yeah.

Everything humans do alot of is popular.

We've got maybe 5 more years to enjoy doing these popular things...;}

I just came in from talking to the Electric Co Op guy.

He came because they're spraying everything under the lines.

We told the Co Op we didn't want them to spray up to our house.

a compromise we said they could go from about 300 ft away to the road.

They're of course using Round Up.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   9:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1590. To: All (#1589)

Maybe not 5 years...;}

2014-15

6. I expect total sea ice loss will occur during summer in either 2014 or 2015. By this time I expect agricultural output to have declined to a point where food supplies are inadequate and famine and conflict are rife. Farmers will not know what to plant or when and even acquiring seed from other climatic regions may be problematic.

7. Social conditions will be comparable to the Holomodor. People will try to eat anything and everything - earthworms, insects, each other - even in some cases their own children. Nation states will fragment and reform into smaller and increasingly violent competitive groups fighting over rapidly diminishing resources. Maintaining the supply chains required for the operation of modern technology including agriculture will be largely impossible.

8. If we see widespread war before nation states fragment there is a possibility of the use of nuclear and genetically enhanced biological weaponry. Whether through war or famine the human population will be in freefall.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   9:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1591. To: All (#1590)

2014 2015

the human population will be in freefall.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   9:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1592. To: A K A Stone (#0)

2016+

9. The climate will continue to worsen as more heat flows into the system and this will become the new threat to survivors as population density becomes too low to sustain conflict. Most survivors will be eliminated, leaving the human race on the brink of extinction. A majority of the planet will cease to be habitable. The deserts will greatly expand, though this will help balance the planets thermal budget. Very few people will live to see the Arctic sea ice entirely gone throughout the year or the ruined cities drowned in the rising sea.

10. Assuming the collapse is as rapid and severe as I expect – I would expect the human population to collapse below the new carrying capacity of the planet and therefore for resource pressure to lighten once a sufficient number of people die (granted with few useful resources left and uncertainty about precisely which regions would be good prospects).

Maybe my '2017 Hoover Dam stops producing electricity' statement was optimistic....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-06 9:56:06 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   9:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1593. To: mcgowanjm (#1589)

I just came in from talking to the Electric Co Op guy.

He came because they're spraying everything under the lines.

My neighbor says they spray with an Agent Orange-type of spray.

Said neighbor is an Agent Orange victim from a combat unit in Vietnam and on 100 percent disability. He's active and appears healthy but he's not.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-06   10:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1594. To: mcgowanjm (#1585)

Enjoying the temps in central Texas lately. 80s/90s during the day, nice weather for this time of year.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-06   14:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1595. To: redleghunter (#1594)

High 70's, low 80's here in S.Cal.

Yeah, it's all about the "glow-bull warming," don'tcha know.........

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-07-06   14:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1596. To: Fred Mertz (#1593)

My neighbor says they spray with an Agent Orange-type of spray.

Said neighbor is an Agent Orange victim from a combat unit in Vietnam and on 100 percent disability. He's active and appears healthy but he's not.

Agent orange was a DIOXIN based defoliant.

There are absolutely no DIOXIN based defoliants currently approved for use in the USA.

NONE.

Nor have there been for almost a generation.

Your neighbor is 100% WRONG about this matter.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-06   15:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1597. To: Mad Dog (#1596)

Your neighbor is 100% WRONG about this matter.

I'll pass that on when I next see him. He's at the lake this weekend.

Chemistry was never my strong subject, in fact, it was my worst and most hated subject.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-06   15:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1598. To: Fred Mertz (#1597)

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I'm telling you this so that you can reassure the man.

He and the others who were exposed to agent orange DID make a difference.

DIOXIN is GONE because of their sacrifices.

Btw Fred dioxins were used in many other ways.

For example the final PAs in my radars were filled with an insulating oil that was almost pure dioxins.

The doors to them were designed that you could NOT open them without getting a BATH in gallons of that oil, because they wanted to make sure the oil was changed every time the PAs were accessed. Every six months or so we took dioxin baths. But no settlement for us, (there were likely fewer than 5,000 of us ever to hold our rate and do that job) .

I meant your neighbor no disrespect, quite the contrary.

Please just tell him because of abuses of agent orange use, dioxin is GONE in the USA and it's NOT coming back.

If you wouldn't mind, please give him my personal thanks for his service Fred.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-06   16:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1599. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Drought conditions are present in 56 percent of the continental U.S., according to the weekly Drought Monitor. That's the most in the 12 years that the data have been compiled, topping the previous record of 55 percent set on Aug. 26, 2003. It's also up five percentage points from the previous week.

USSA Gov't stats.

Doesn't bode well for ethanol production does it?

The Euro-zone is just as far away from Euro-bonds, Euro-reform, Euro-conservation and Euro-salvation as it was two weeks ago, Merkel is just as belligerent, the region is just as broke and dependent upon external sources of both credit and fuel as it was two weeks ago … certainly none of these problems apply to China, right?

http://www.economic-undertow.com...orld-is-saved-now-what-2/

The Downward Spiral tightens and accelerates....thinking of Jim McKay, Dick Button now and French/Russian judges....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1600. To: Fred, Mad Dog, All (#1596)

Agent orange was a DIOXIN based defoliant.

There are absolutely no DIOXIN based defoliants currently approved for use in the USA.

NONE.

Nor have there been for almost a generation.

Your neighbor is 100% WRONG about this matter.

NONE.

Nor have there been for almost a generation.

Your neighbor is 100% WRONG about this matter.

First, in a T/F test, WHENEVER you encounter an

ALL INCLUSIVE statement, just like the one above, the answer is ALWAYS

FALSE

Test taking 101.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1601. To: All (#1600) (Edited)

Now. Where was I.....;}

O Yeah!

Whenever plastic and or chlorine is burned

DIOXIN

is produced.

We have as much ability to get rid of DIOXIN as we do PLUTONIUM.

There is no DIOXIN cycle....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1602. To: All (#1601)

1,4-Dioxin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,4-Dioxin

1,4-Dioxin (also referred as dioxin or p-dioxin) is a heterocyclic, organic, antiaromatic compound with the chemical formula C4H4O2. ... Famous PCDD exposure cases include Agent Orange produced by MONSANTO sprayed over vegetation ...

"C.H. Boehringer Sohn discovered a way to minimize the

DIOXIN

content in a substance by keeping down the temperature in the autoclave [during manufacture]. . . . Dow, Monsanto, and Diamond Shamrock were able to make a batch of Agent Orange in about forty-five minutes, but if they'd lowered the temperatures, it would have taken a lot longer-- possibly twelve hours-- to make the same batch of herbicide. By keeping the autoclave temperatures higher, they made it more quickly and for a lot cheaper. Dow and other manufacturers of Agent Orange ignored the safety precautions because they wanted to make Agent Orange more quickly, and they wanted to make more of it."[1]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1603. To: Fred Mertz, All (#1602)

Glyphosate only makes about 41% of the total pesticide. The rest is a combination of water and any combination of nearly 2,300 substances which could be added by the manufacturer but not listed on the label. The company claims that these chemicals are trade secrets.

polyethoxylated tallowamines

Canada To Declare Triclosan Toxic to Environment

(Beyond Pesticides, March 28, 2012)

DIOXIN is formed when ALL polymer/chlorine based insecticide/ herbicides are exposed to sun light....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1604. To: All (#1603)

You think it was an accident that Agent Orange was a descendant of GLYPHOSATE?

That the Intro of Round Up Ready Seed in 1992 corresponds

EXACTLY

with when bees began to die/disappear.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1605. To: All (#1604) (Edited)

Where I live we’ve had power outages, record high temps, buckling roads, and lack of rain. Yet the only response is to shrink government and cut taxes. As cuts continue, trust in government declines in a downward spiral that feeds on itself.

It’s getting pretty hard to hide the bad news. [b]Has anyone noticed that all those so-called "post-apocalyptic" prophecies are coming true?"

hipcrime.blogspot.com/2012/07/doom-or-denial.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   9:42:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1606. To: Mad Dog (#1598)

I meant your neighbor no disrespect, quite the contrary.

He's a silver star recipient and he wasn't a commissioned officer. I have a great deal of respect for him.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-07   10:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1607. To: mcgowanjm (#1600)

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Hey mctoejam, don't ping me with your mindless drivel.

I have no interest in your insane and inane bullshit jimmy boy.

IF you should accidently ever actually speak some truth or fact I'll read about it in the national news. /S

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-07   15:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1608. To: Fred Mertz (#1606)

I meant your neighbor no disrespect, quite the contrary.

He's a silver star recipient and he wasn't a commissioned officer. I have a great deal of respect for him.

As you, and we ALL, well should Fred.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-07   15:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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