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#1222. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, TooConservative (#1221)

The ruling class dreamed a nightmare, and made it real. We are now caught up in it. For many of us -- certainly for me, and very possibly for you -- the end result is clear: the ruling class intends to kill us. Not today or tomorrow, the ruling class hasn't reached that point of desperation quite yet, but they'll kill us soon enough. We have no value to them; we're superfluous; we're not needed.

JM, thought of you when I saw this Chick cartoon. Since you are a self described Black, gay, gnostic pagan and Muslim:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-15   14:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1223. To: mcgowanjm (#1218)
(Edited)

Was your mother heavily sedated when she came up with that?

Or did your dad pull it out of his rolodex?

i never asked yet but maybe i should now that you mention it

we have a little boy who is now asking for a sibling to play with.

i've thought that it's probably not a bad idea from a reliability / failure mode or worst case analysis perspective that we do in fact have a backup in case something goes wrong with the existing pre adolescent unit we now have.

she is a somewhat ambivalent but seems to be coming around to the idea.

i have already come up with a nickname for he or she and that is "spare".

the wife is less enthusiastic about that idea.....although she did let me name 2 of our cats "flat" and "dead".

------always bet on black------

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-06-15   17:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1224. To: A K A Stone (#1147)

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool them Texan flies.

A cowboy from Texas was at a fund-raising function for Barack Obama’s reelection. When Obama discovered the cowboy was from George W. Bush’s home area, he started to belittle him by talking in a southern drawl and single syllable words.

As he was doing that, he kept swatting at some flies that were buzzing around his head. The cowboy says, “Y’all havin’ some problem with them circle flies?”

Obama stopped talking and said, “Well, yes, if that’s what they’re called, but I’ve never heard of circle flies.”

“Well, sir,” the cowboy replies, “Circle flies hang around ranches. They’re called circle flies because they’re almost always found circling around the back end of a horse.”

“Oh,” Obama replies as he goes back to rambling. But a moment later he stops and bluntly asks, “Are you calling me a horse’s ass?”

“No, sir,” the cowboy replies, “I have too much respect for the citizens of this country to call their president a horse’s ass.”

“That’s a good thing,” Obama responds and begins rambling on once more.

After a long pause, the cowboy, in his best Texas drawl says, “Hard to fool them flies, though.”

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-15   17:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1225. To: mcgowanjm (#1201)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-15   19:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1226. To: e_type_jag (#1205)

------always bet on black------

Gotta ask...

(?)

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-15   19:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1227. To: Liberator (#1226)

line from a wesley snipes movie

------always bet on black------

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-06-16   0:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1228. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

No matter what the country, the dates are Always the same....;}

"Colin Powell is a liar. He can pretend all he wants but the record bears out the reality that he has repeatedly misled over and over. That is lying

The clearest result of this bribery for many Yemenis was the signing of the Jeddah border agreement in 2000,

whereby Yemen eventually conceded the decades-long disputed provinces of Asir, Najran, and Jizan.

Tthe border dispute is decades old. During the signing of the Taif border agreement in 1934,

it was considered a “pact of Islamic friendship and Arab brotherhood between the Kingdom of Yemen and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.” When President Ibrahim al-Hamdi took power in 1974,

discussion returned about the need to settle the border dispute between Yemen and Saudi. The source indicated that during Hamdi’s visit to the Saudi region of Taif during his 3-year term in office, the border issue was introduced. Hamdi is said to have replied: I am still in Yemeni territory. If you wish to discuss the issue, we can start with this point.

The issue was later forgotten following his assassination.

Under al-Hamdi's administration Yemen enjoyed the most prosperous economic boom since 1962,

as he was responsible for a civil engineering endeavour that would rival that of any country. On October 11, 1977

al-Hamdi was murdered along with his brother by Saudi Arabian funded agents believed to be from the Al-Ahmar tribe[citation needed] who are known dependents of the Saudi monarchy[citation needed]. Their goal was to slow down the progress of Yemen's unification.[citation needed] To this day al-Hamdi remains as Yemen's most beloved President.[citation needed].

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   8:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1229. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

The Age of Denial. The Age of No Consequences is now over.

Time Period:

September 15, 2008 - June 12, 2012

McCain: 'The Economy is fine.' to Obama: 'The Private Economy is fine.'

"The earth isn’t dying; it is being killed. And “clean energy” will only make things worse.

I should probably begin by introducing myself; my name is Alex, and I’m a recovering renewable energy advocate. For years, I was a victim of desperation and hope; I petitioned and parlayed, chanted and canvassed; I brimmed with excitement at the prospect of “green jobs” and a “renewable energy economy.” I still see much of myself in many of you.

I know what it’s like. I know exactly how it feels to look around and see a world not just dying but being suffocated, being tortured and maimed, sacrificed on the twin altars of profit and production. As a young person today,

I know what it’s like to fear the future, to fear for my future. I—like many of you—have read all the studies and reports I need to see to know what’s coming, what disaster is now screaming, all but unchallenged, down the track upon us

http://dgrnewsservice.org/2012/0...fellow-environmentalists/.

Before the arrival of industrial civilization on this continent, you could breathe the air and drink the water. A short 500 years later, every single mother in the world has dioxin (a chemical commonly called “the most toxic in the world”) in her breast milk, 98% of forests have been destroyed, half of all men and one third of all women now get cancer7, and the Colorado River no longer reaches the ocean.

Those systems which are destroying the planet—industrial agriculture, the extractive industries (industrial mining, fishing, logging, etc), the fossil fuel infrastructure, and exploitative systems of power—must be strategically dismantled and replaced by independent cultures of direct democracy that are fully integrated with their land bases and local ecosystems.

The Earth cannot afford any alternative, for the alternative is to let the dominant culture consume what little remains of the natural world.."

The above person is well intentioned, but humans aren't running the operation any more, if they ever were.

Nature will be just fine 20 000 years from now. You won't even know, except for about 400 or so rapidly diminishing Radioactive Hot Spots, that humans were even here.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   8:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1230. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

Post Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:26 am by mcgowanjm The Age of Non Consequences or the Age of Denial is now over...

Mark it. Your fave numerology date of this coming week.

I've chosen:

062112

Just like 30 years ago this week when the

Reagan/Greenspan Commodities Trading Act was rolled out.

I had a hedge trade on that blew up because of that 'Act', so I remember it well.

When you look at any chart covering the time, you can see it to the day.

The Stock Markets soared. The Recession was over. And no one could explain why.

$1.75 Quadrillion later (love to give Jamie Dimon this number and see his reply :twisted: ) in Synthetic Investment Vehicles (See Enron JP Morgan;) and we have our answer.

ALL commodities charts have either formed a huge flag/pennant here or have dropped to the bottom of a Major Support level.

The Greek Election will be the explosion of the fuse that's been burning since September 15, 2008.

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Post Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:33 am by mcgowanjm Re: Empire Manufacturing PLUNGES, misses big

Post Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:33 am by mcgowanjm While China's been just another copy of our Kleptocratic Plutarchy.

Most Chinese savings however are not invested in see-through apartment buildings. Bank deposits still dominate. The Chinese banks are the finest deposit franchises in human history.

They can borrow huge amounts at ex-ante negative real returns. And those deposits are mostly lent to State Owned enterprises.

The SOEs are the center of the Chinese kleptocracy.

If you manage your way up the Communist Party of China and you play your politics really well may wind up senior in some State Owned Enterprise. This is your opportunity to loot on a scale unprecedented in human history.

And what is the end result?: The Chinese Government (and the banks are part of the government even though they are listed) has access to seemingly unlimited bank deposits at negative real costs. When you have copious funds at a negative cost a lot of investments that look stupid under some circumstances suddenly look sensible.

US Treasuries look just fine. Don't think the Chinese are going to stop holding Treasuries. The Treasuries yield far more than they pay the peasants. The Chinese make a positive arbitrage on holding low rate US bonds.

hipcrime.blogspot.com/

Swap a few names and the resemblance with the System of the USSA is uncanny... :twisted:

While Russia has copied our political/diplomatic system. While covering our empire with it's own very precise choke point system. See Tartus Naval Base/Cyprus Bail Out bidding war for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   9:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1231. To: A K A Stone (#0)

TWO Examples of Hit & Run

The victim is 20-year-old Sheila Moreta who had just finished her first shift at Wendy’s.

She was biking home when a gray BMW, driven by 23-year-old Angelica Barroso, hit Moreta, dragging her body into the corner of the road, before taking off. While Moreta’s friend frantically tried to flag down help, Moreta was hit by a second car.

The BMW’s license plates fell off the car at the scene and police were able to track Barroso down. They found her an hour-and-a-half later.

At a lunch that followed Powell's presentation, diplomats said he responded to the French foreign minister's concerns about the impact war with Iraq would have on the region by saying, "I wasn't talking about war, but about strengthening inspections."

The diplomats said Powell also made clear to Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin that the United States is not ready to go to war immediately, and is interested in hearing France's proposals to strengthen inspections with the added value of the evidence Powell presented.

Yes, liars usually will trip themselves up. Like today when Powell tells Kira Zalan: And when I gave it, people stopped and listened. And the president by that time had already decided that combat would be necessary, he decided that sometime in January.

And now it's 5 February and I'm simply telling people why it may be necessary.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   9:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1232. To: All (#1231)

"Months of exclusive reporting on this website that 66-year old Hervey Medellin, the decapitation victim known as the Hollywood Head, was not murdered as the result of a 'gay love triangle gone wrong,' as reported, but because of long-standing connections to drug trafficking through the notorious and now-defunct Cali Cartel was confirmed (typically, without attribution) by a local TV newscast in L.A.

Still, the news caused nary a ripple. The reason:

For 72 hours last week some of the biggest guns of the world’s major media—TIME, ABC NEWS, CNN, CBS, Reuters, FOX NEWS, London newspapers The Observer, The Independent, and the tabloid SUN and Daily Mail, the New York Observer,even Gawker— pounded home a conspiracy theory to readers and TV viewers as rank and baseless as anything on the farthest fringes of the Internet, where, to cite one example, the role of alien locusts in the 9/11 attack is understood within a Biblical framework.

It was a tsunami of disinformation. It swept away the truth.

Incredibly, six months after the severed head of former Mexicana Airlines “steward” Hervey Medellin was discovered on a trail beneath the Hollywood Sign, the major media’s suggested explanation remains what it was in the immediate aftermath of the crime:

“It’s a gay thing.”

The question is 'why.' The answer can be seen in a graphic of recent decapitations and dismemberment in North America.

The media was atwitter about connections between Montreal's Canadian Cannibal and a murder 3000 miles away in Los Angeles. Yet no talk at all about Mexico, only 120 miles from L.A.. where there were a total of 81 decapitated and dismembered bodies found…just last month.

We weren't even able to stick enough pins close enough (using Google maps) to represent the carnage."

www.madcowprod.com/2012/0...hollywood-head/#more-1087

" As the body count climbs across Mexico, the drugs continue flowing across the border by the ton.

Despite the evident disconnect--a "war" on drugs that increases the supply while lowering the price, in the best tradition of our reigning "free market" ideology--the American media regales the public with fairy tales of heroic "warriors" doing battle with murderous gangsters named "Joaquín," "Jorge" and "Amado."

The fact is, more likely than not, the real narcos taking the biggest cut from deep inside the reeking abattoir of the grisly trade have far less prosaic names like "Brett," "Ethan" or "Jason."

antifascist-calling.blogs...rcos-real-masters-of.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   9:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1233. To: All (#1232)

Pollution handled completely by natural self-repair? Oh, you might indeed label that optimistic!

Also optimistic is any assumption that effects of pollution consist mainly of global warming from greenhouse gases, since that is but one facet of a much broader existential threat from many sources of contamination and their synergistic interactions.

Criticism frequently dismisses the warnings of doomsayers since past predictions haven't come to pass, and attribute doomerism to some neurotic and unrealistic compulsion. But the fact is, we've always been doomed.

You only have to think about it for a few minutes to figure out that endless expansion and growth and extraction and pollution on a finite planet is going to fizzle out sometime or other. Personally, I blame Prometheus - ever since we harnessed fire, it's only been a matter of time.

Should I envy the vast majority of people who manage to not know this? Or should I be grateful for knowledge?

witsendnj.blogspot.com/2012/06/rapid-ruin.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   9:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1234. To: e_type_jag (#1227) (Edited)

line from a wesley snipes movie

What - now I gotta use a line from 'The Godfather' or 'Goodfellas' as MY tagline??

------ WHAT - YOU THINK DAT'S FUNNY?? DO I AMUSE YOU?? I'M FUNNY HOW??!? --------

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   9:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1235. To: mcgowanjm (#1229)

Those systems which are destroying the planet—industrial agriculture, the extractive industries (industrial mining, fishing, logging, etc), the fossil fuel infrastructure, and exploitative systems of power—must be strategically dismantled and replaced by independent cultures of direct democracy that are fully integrated with their land bases and local ecosystems.

WTH does the above BS mean??!?

HEY! Here's a solution:

Let's return to the Stone Age!!

Nature will be just fine 20 000 years from now. You won't even know, except for about 400 or so rapidly diminishing Radioactive Hot Spots, that humans were even here.

Nope. Allow me to clarify:

"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."

Revelations: 21:11 (KJV)

Where will YOU be, Jimmy?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   10:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1236. To: redleghunter (#1225)

" To finish, I would like to point out that many of the comments about the private sector economy are based on an erroneous calculation of private sector real GDP. They seem to think that one can estimate private sector GDP by subtracting government consumption from total GDP.

But that is not correct. Remember, we do not directly estimate output. Rather the GDP data measures consumption and adjust that for changes in trade and inventories to indirectly estimate output.

For example if Boeing builds a 747 or Ford builds a truck it does not show up in GDP as output. It shows up in the GDP accounts in one of five ways.

1. If they sell it to an individual it is recorded in personal consumption expenditures.

2. If they sell it to a business it shows up as business fixed investment.

3. If they export it is recorded in the trade account.

4. If they do not sell it , the jet or truck is counted as an increase in inventories.

5. If they sell it to the government it is recorded as government consumption.

But if the jet or truck or some other good or service is sold to the government it still counts as private sector output just the same as if they had exported it or sold it to an individual or a business. In the GDP accounts, government consumption includes two types of transactions. One is government employment like a policeman or a soldier. The other is government purchases of goods or services from private business. So to correctly estimate private sector GDP you need to subtract only government employment but not government purchases from total GDP. This makes a big difference in the size and growth of the private economy. Every quarter that government purchases grow faster than private sector output it causes the estimate of private GDP derived by subtracting government consumption from total GDP to understate private GDP.

This method of estimating private GDP generates a highly biased estimate. For example,using the correct methodology shows that over the past decade private sector real GPD expanded almost 20% while the estimate derived from subtracting all government consumption from total real GDP concludes that private sector real GDP contracted some -16%.

www.angrybearblog.com/201...te-sector-doing-fine.html

Wo Gov't Wealth Transfer the Private Implodes.

On 062112....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1237. To: Liberator (#1235)

Liberator Those systems which are destroying the planet—industrial agriculture, the extractive industries (industrial mining, fishing, logging, etc), the fossil fuel infrastructure, and exploitative systems of power—must be strategically dismantled and replaced by independent cultures of direct democracy that are fully integrated with their land bases and local ecosystems.

WTH does the above BS mean??!?

Those systems which are destroying the planet—industrial agriculture, the extractive industries (industrial mining, fishing, logging, etc), the fossil fuel infrastructure, and exploitative systems of power....

That the Last 120 years of the Oil Age is now over....we've 'borrowed' according to 'economics', but Stolen is the more appropriate word.

Kinda Exactly like the $1.75 Quadrilion in Synthetic Investment Derivatives starting 30 years ago today, have been stolen.....

...—must be strategically dismantled and replaced by independent cultures of direct democracy that are fully integrated with their land bases and local ecosystems.

TIME'S UP...as of 062112 and the Greek election tomorrow.

The Planet will now take over....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1238. To: Liberator (#1235)

HEY! Here's a solution:

Let's return to the Stone Age!!

The Sooner we crash, the more will be left.

We string this thing out and yes, the less than 400 million left by 2120 will be in a very dirty Stone Age....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1239. To: Liberator (#1235)

Nature will be just fine 20 000 years from now. You won't even know, except for about 400 or so rapidly diminishing Radioactive Hot Spots, that humans were even here.

Nope. Allow me to clarify:

"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."

Revelations: 21:11 (KJV)

Where will YOU be, Jimmy?

First off, you stupid fuck....

It's Mister Jimmie to you....;}

Next:

This ain't bible study class.

And Jesus Fucking Christ...is EVERYONE here a bible thumpin' Fundy?....8D

So where in the bible does it say,

'When you fill up the planet destroying everything need to live on, another planet will be provided....

or does Rapture take care of that....LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1240. To: Liberator (#1235)

Where will YOU be, Jimmy?

Right here....cleaning up your mess you left behind.

You weren't a very good boy scout, were you, Libby....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1241. To: All (#1240)

Russian Warning Shots fired: Syrian Conflict Threatens to Degenerate into World War III By: Thierry Meyssan, sent by Syrian on: 13.06.2012 06:52 The nature of the Syrian crisis has changed. The process of destabilization that was to open the path for legal military intervention by the Atlantic Alliance has failed. Removing its mask, the United States has publicly announced the possibility of attacking Syria without the approval of the Security Council, as it also did in Kosovo. Washington must be pretending not to have noticed that the Russia of Vladimir Putin is not that of Boris Yeltsin. After being assured of Chinese support, Moscow literally fired two warning shots in the direction of Washington. The continuing violations of international law by NATO and the GCC threaten to unleash a global conflict.

The more the USSA talks about Syria, the more the USSA is moving to WWIII....it really is that simple now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1242. To: All (#1241)

Nayef was announced the new heir to the Saudi throne after the death of his full brother, former Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, at a New York hospital on October 22, 2011.

The 79-year-old Nayef, who was also the long-serving interior minister of Saudi Arabia, recently left the kingdom for medical treatment and was seen in Switzerland a few days ago.

Nayef had also traveled for medical reasons to a few countries including Algeria and the United States this year. The nature of his illness has not been made public.

His brother, Prince Ahmed bin Abdul Aziz, was recently quoted as saying in a Saudi daily that the crown prince was in “good health” and that he would “soon” return to Saudi Arabia.

Next in line for the position of crown prince is expected to be Nayef’s younger brother, Prince Salman, who is the minister of defense. However, no one has officially been announced to replace the dead crown prince.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/16/246484/saudi-arabias-nayef-dead-state-tv/

Saudi Arabia has always been nothing but a legal fiction.

Just like Israel.

They'll both go within years of each other.

062112

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1243. To: mcgowanjm (#1201)

libTURD SCUM BLOVIATIONS ......

THIS certainly has NOT changed in any way has it SCUM?

"I feel your pain SCUM.

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-16   14:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1244. To: mcgowanjm (#1220)

libTURD BLOVIATIONS ..... ..... .....

THIS certainly has NOT changed in any way has it SCUM?

"I feel your pain SCUM.

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-16   14:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1245. To: mcgowanjm (#1237)

Those systems which are destroying the planet—industrial agriculture, the extractive industries (industrial mining, fishing, logging, etc), the fossil fuel infrastructure, and exploitative systems of power....

You mean progress and technology are murdering the planet? Has Mother Earth been "exploited" for her water, oil, trees, milk, honey, crops, sand, and ores? How...decadent!

What's your solution again? Living in grass f&%!@#ing huts, eating dung beetles, and drinking out of an alligator creek??

That the Last 120 years of the Oil Age is now over....we've 'borrowed' according to 'economics', but Stolen is the more appropriate word.

But...but..."stolen" from *whom*?? Or what??

..—must be strategically dismantled and replaced by independent cultures of direct democracy that are fully integrated with their land bases and local ecosystems.

We have already established "independent cultures" - where have you been? We live in neighborhoods, vilages, towns, states, and nations. Done so since 5,000 BC.

How would you achieve this "Direct Democracy"? Would it be something of an event resembling Russia, circa 1917?

TIME'S UP...as of 062112 and the Greek election tomorrow. The Planet will now take over....;}

The planet is just a vessel used by man to subsist on it resources. And man is to have dominion over it, as per God's instructions. Abuse was inevitable, Jimmy. But ITMT, you are still contributing to the abuse by tapping on your plastic petro-derived device, driving your car, turning your light switch on, and ingesting food that's used gasoline and pesticides.

Btw - Why aren't you living in a cave or grass hut?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   15:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1246. To: mcgowanjm (#1238)

The Sooner we crash, the more will be left.

The "more" of what? Natural resources? You aren't any more entitled to those resources than you are deciding WHO is or isn't, and how much is harvested.

Who is "we"?? ALL of civilization? You ok? Do you have a fever, Jimmy??

The elites will make sure YOU won't steal their goodies, fellow dirt-napping serf.

We string this thing out and yes, the less than 400 million left by 2120 will be in a very dirty Stone Age....;}

Nothing last forever. Especially not you. The things that are totally out of your control are simply off the wall. Look - go pour yourself a fermented or distilled beverage...

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   15:06:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1247. To: mcgowanjm (#1239)

First off, you stupid fuck....

It's Mister Jimmie to you....;}

Somehow, you still amuse me...lol

Next: This ain't bible study class. And Jesus Fucking Christ...is EVERYONE here a bible thumpin' Fundy?....8D

Dunno. Just be glad our message and 'Good News' keeps afloat JUST in case you wise up and attend to the status of your soul in the next life.

So where in the bible does it say, 'When you fill up the planet destroying everything need to live on, another planet will be provided....or does Rapture take care of that....LMFAO

That's funny sh*t. But blame Satan.

Enjoy:

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   15:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1248. To: mcgowanjm (#1236)

But if the jet or truck or some other good or service is sold to the government it still counts as private sector output just the same as if they had exported it or sold it to an individual or a business.

How is Sister Betrel counted?

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-16   17:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1249. To: mcgowanjm (#1201)

libTURD SCUM BLOVIATIONS .....

THIS certainly has NOT changed in any way has it SCUM?

"I feel your pain SCUM.

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS, (dat's you jimmy boy).

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-16   23:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1250. To: mcgowanjm (#1220)

libTURD BLOVIATIONS

LOL!

IF nothing had changed y'all, THIS could not be posted, dig? jimmy boy ya?

Your libTURD bLoViAtIoNs, are SOP for YOU jimmy boy.

THIS certainly has NOT changed in any way has it SCUM?

"I feel your pain SCUM.

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS, (dat's you jimmy boy).

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-16   23:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1251. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#317. To: All (#0)

In 1916, Emir of Mecca Sharif Hussein bin Ali proclaimed himself king of an independent Hijaz following the disintegration of the Ottoman Empire after World War I. In 1924, however, Bin Ali's authority was usurped by the Al Saud family who ruled the neighboring region of Nejd. They annexed the territory into what became known as the Kingdom of Hijaz and Nejd and later the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

It's one of those times where people who've been slugging away, 'take a break.'

And the MSM has absolutely nothing to say about anything.

And if it does, it's to downplay, or cover.

Jun 01, 2012 Fourteen insurgents killed in failed attack in Khowst Written by RC-East Public Affairs

BAGRAM, Afghanistan – Afghan and coalition forces successfully repelled an attack on a forward operating base in Khowst province today. At around 1 p.m., several insurgents wearing suicide vests attacked the FOB in Khowst. Afghan and International Security Assistance Force service members successfully repelled the attack and secured the base. Reports indicate fourteen insurgents were killed in the attack. At this time there are no reports of ISAF fatalities.

But that's not what happened....;}

www.washingtonpost.com/wo.../16/gJQAlyaihV_print.html

KABUL — A June 1 attack on a U.S. outpost near the Afghanistan-Pakistan border was much worse than originally disclosed by the military as insurgents pounded the base with a truck bomb, killing two Americans and seriously wounding about three dozen troops, officials acknowledged Saturday.

The blast flattened the dining hall and post exchange at Forward Operating Base Salerno in Khost province, a frequent target of insurgents in the past. Five Afghan civilians were killed and more than 100 other U.S. troops were treated for minor injuries. U.S. officials estimated that the truck was carrying 1,500 pounds of explosives.

U.S. and Afghan military officials said they killed 14 insurgents, many of whom were wearing suicide vests."

Now the Taliban version which I posted here on that day:

It'll be easier to find it here, where I posted it on TPF.

In the meantime, here's what happened yesterday:

" * Home * News * Weekly Analysis * Statements * Articles * Movies * Interviews * Contact us

25 security guards killed and wounded in attack on convoy, 9 vehicles eliminated Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 27 Rajab 1433 Sunday, 17 June 2012 07:47

FARAH, Jun. 17 – At least 15 escort security guards were killed, 10 wounded while 4 escort security vehicles and 5 fuel tankers were destroyed at around 02:00 pm Saturday when Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate carried out a wide scale attack amid operation Al-Farooq on a nato logistical convoy in Gulistan district’s Pitawak, Jawza and others areas.

It is said that another escort security vehicle was also blown to pieces by a landmine near Habibullah petrol pump during the ambush, killing all 4 puppet"

A sure sign that the Non Linear break is here.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-17 7:34:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #318. To: All (#216)

And here it is:

And except for Fred Mertz, zero replies.

"#195. To: Robin, All (#194)

#962. To: A K A Stone (#0)

With Obama's 4:12 AM MayDay Bagram Speech, immediately boarding his plane and taking off as the Taliban attacked,

I knew we were at the EndGame. By Xmas the USSA would be out.

You can tell by how a Major Bank is imploding now. The Domestic mirrors the Foreign:

"Print KHOST, Jun. 02 – More than 100 US invading terrorists and tens of their puppets were killed and wounded in the martyrdom operation hit Sahrah Bagh airbase in Khost province.

According to the details, about 11 martyrdom-seeking heroes of Islamic Emirate, Shamsullah and Azimullah Khan coming from Paktia province, Muhammad Naeem, Atiqullah, Muhammad Yaqoob Ibrahimi, Karimullah and Sabeer residents of Ghazni province, Hafiz saifullah from Paktika province, Abdullah from Nangarhar and Abdurrahman from Logar province, stormed Sahra Bagh airfield in capital of Khost province, homes to hundreds of American invading troops.

The team of 11 martyr combatants armored with heavy and small arms and explosives vests in the US military uniforms got into the facility after slamming an explosive-filled truck into the airbase building.

Firstly, Shamsullah on Friday at about 1:00 p.m. carried out a martyr attack trough a truck packed with 10 tons of explosives roughly 10 thousand kilo grams, targeting the hotels and dining areas and gyms within the base in which dozens of the American cowardly troops were blowing to pieces and eliminated.

Soon after this huge and powerful explosion, 10 of 11 martyrdom-seeking Mujahideen entered the base facility and fought with rockets, hand grenades, explosive vests and heavy and light machine guns till 4:00 p.m., killing and wounding several dozens of US invading terrorist troops.

At about 5:00 p.m. Mujahideen detonated a motorbike parked outside near the gate of the base at puppets assisting the invaders in which more than 20 Afghan puppet soldiers were killed and wounded, whereas as many as 170 motorcycles were destroyed in the explosion.

The operation went on till the evening hours of the day in manner that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate took the airbase under attack from both inside by 10 combatants fighting the invading forces inside the base and from outside by other Mujahideen which made the enemy forces unable to use any aerial support. Two attack helicopters and a huge military plane as well as many tanks, fuel tankers, vehicles and fuel depots were set on fire and burned to ash.

It was the worst single-day losses for the US invaders and their puppets since the “Operation AL-Farooq” began and the local and western-flounced media’s reports on this successful operation are one-sided and based on false propaganda which attempt to understate the most lethal losses inflicted on the enemies, in particular on US invaders and undermine Mujahideen success. On the other hand, locals of the area and the US invaders themselves are well aware of the ground reality which speaks for itself.

And I left this in because the BBC has apologized, O SO QUIETLY for 'buying the spin' on HOULA.....;}

" Both the Guardian and the BBC depend entirely on the logical fallacy of appealing to authority - be it an allegedly qualified witness, or satellite imagery and overwhelming techno-babble. Both news agencies have demonstratively failed to provide any actual evidence to back the narrative they have been irresponsibly reporting since Houla erupted into violence last week.

The narrative has shifted from the Syrian army shelling civilians to death, to soldiers dismounting from tanks and killing civilians at close range, to pro-government militias dismounting from tanks and killing civilians at close range, and now finally, militants in cars, trucks, and on motorbikes killing civilians at close range - which seems to corroborate the Syrian government's own conclusion, that it was terrorists.

The BBC has already been caught outright misrepresenting events in Houla, when they used a picture of dead bodies taken years ago from Iraq in their recent Syrian coverage."

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-03 8:16:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #965. To: All (#964)

Now let's see the USSAMedia's reaction to this EpicFail.

"ReutersReuters – Fri, Jun 1, 2012

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KHOST, Afghanistan (Reuters) - A blast was heard in the eastern Afghan city of Khost on Friday and smoke was rising near a NATO base, a Reuters witness and nearby residents said.

There was no immediate word on casualties. NATO said it was aware of an incident in the area but it was too early to comment. The Afghan Taliban said its fighters rammed a vehicle packed with large amounts of explosives into the base.

Violence has surged across Afghanistan since the Taliban began its yearly summer offensive in April, vowing to target Afghan government and security forces, as well as the 130,000 foreign troops in the country.

A police source said a gunbattle was raging near the base and local security forces were not able to get close to the area.

(Reporting by Elyas Wahdat in KHOST and Hamid Shalizi in KABUL; Writing by Michael Georgy; Editing by Ed Lane)

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-03 8:19:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #966. To: All (#965)

Stars & Stripes:

"Attack on coalition base in Khost thwarted Stars and Stripes Published: June 1, 2012

Insurgents detonated an explosives-laden truck near the gate of a major American base in Eastern Afghanistan on Friday, kicking off a gun battle in which more than a dozen attackers were killed, U.S. military officials said.

The attackers made it inside the perimeter but no Afghan or U.S. troops were killed, though both U.S. and Afghan troops suffered minor injuries.

The U.S. military has not released the number of injuries or whether civilians were hurt.

The attack began around 1 p.m. at Camp Salerno just outside of Khost, the capital of Khost province. After the initial explosion insurgents, some wearing suicide vests, continued the attack but were repelled by U.S. and Afghan troops, said Maj. Paul Haverstick, a spokesman for the International Security Assistance Force’s Regional Command-East. At least two of the attackers detonated their vests and Haverstick said roughly 14 insurgents died in the attack.

“They tried a complex attack ... and it failed because of the quick reaction of the forces on the ground,” Haverstick said.

The Associated Press quoted a Taliban spokesman as saying that “tens” of foreign forces were killed and wounded and that a plane on an airstrip was destroyed, though the Taliban often exaggerates casualty claims."

Someone is working hard to find if a video exists.....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-03 8:22:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #967. To: All (#966)

In this report, the last of the three, NYT, WaPo, AP don't even bother to file....

AFP

1. NATO: Afghan insurgents attack coalition base Idaho Press-Tribune‎ - 2 days ago KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghan officials say a bomb has exploded at a U.S.-led coalition base outside of Khost, the ... You Report News ...

The report has been replaced by a hostage rescue....;}

Amerika won't know until lines start forming outside the bank. And even then the majority will go, 'I don't have any money in the bank to get...'

'Maybe I should go get an extra big Advanced PayDay Loan......;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-03 8:27:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #968. To: mcgowanjm (#965)

Several fighters, including some wearing suicide vests, attacked the base with rocket propelled grenades on Friday.

"As of now, we have reports of 14 insurgents killed," a spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force said.

He said the attack on the forward operating base had been foiled, although he was not in a position to provide operational details. There were no casualties among either NATO or Afghan forces.

www.aljazeera.com/news/as...6/201261124513910377.html

Wow, our guys are invincible!

Fred Mertz posted on 2012-06-03 8:28:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #969. To: All (#967)

AFP 1.

NATO: Afghan insurgents attack coalition base Idaho Press-Tribune‎ - 2 days ago

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghan officials say a bomb has exploded at a U.S.-led coalition base outside of Khost, the ... You Report News ... The Taliban have responded by opening up new fronts in the north and west and stepping up attacks in the east, where much of the heaviest fighting is presently concentrated.

MY Edit: And what 'Heavy Fighting' is that? I ain't heard no stinkin' reports of heavy fighting? How are we supposed to Support Our Troops if we don';t know what we're supporting?

"It was a very strong blast. Khost city shook and we heard firing," Zazai said. Gula Jan, an Afghan police official who was at the scene, said the attack occurred at Camp Salerno.

Jan said six civilians – three women and three children – were slightly wounded when a wall collapsed from the force of the explosion.

My Edit: Please...at the gates of Camp Sa;erno are nothing but Day Care Centerts?....LMFAO

NATO (whoever they are. Noting absolutely ZERO named officials ever comment for the record.....;}

said it had no reports of any civilians being hurt during the attack.

Lulzzzzz....;}

"The blast was inside the compound and then we heard firing," Jan said. "There is a helicopter flying over the base."

But again, No one but Taliban were killed. And Just took 14 shots to kill all 14....;}

U.S. Army Maj. Paul Haverstick, a spokesman for the coalition in eastern Afghanistan, said no Afghan or foreign troops were killed and only a few coalition forces suffered minor injuries.

So Paul knows....at least we have a name... Haverstick said insurgents detonated a truck loaded with explosives at the entrance to the camp. The explosion allowed other insurgents to enter the compound. Two militants wearing explosive vests blew themselves up prematurely and caused no damage.

My Edit: So the insurgents are inside the base now, but since there was no one at the entrance except for a Day Care Center, no one got hurt, as the Insurgents tripped over each other in their haste to get to an actuall target inside Camp Salerno.....;}

Afghan and coalition forces fired at the group of insurgents. A total of 14 militants died in the attack, he said. Zabiullah Mujahid, a spokesman for the Taliban, claimed that a suicide bomber targeted the base in an explosives-filled vehicle that slipped onto the compound near where coalition troops dine. He said in a statement that after the blast, other insurgents entered the compound on foot and opened fire.

"They had suicide vests, rocket-propelled grenades, heavy machine guns and hand grenades," Mujahid said. Mujahid claimed that an airplane on an airstrip at the base was destroyed and that "tens" of foreign forces were killed and wounded. The Taliban often exaggerate the number of casualties caused by their attacks. NATO said no airplane was destroyed during the attack. Forward Operating Base Salerno has a large Soviet-built airfield.

It is near Camp Chapman, where seven CIA employees were killed in a suicide attack in December 2009. Salerno and its outlying fire bases have been the focus of repeated militant suicide, artillery and sniper attacks over the past several years. One of the most brazen of the war occurred in August, 2008, when about 100 Taliban fighters broke through the perimeter of the base.

After a two-hour fire fight, helicopter gunships forced the guerrillas to retreat. On May 19, a suicide bomber blew himself up at a police checkpoint in Ali Sher district of Khost province, killing 13 people – 10 civilians, two Afghan policemen and an Afghan border police officer. "

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   7:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1252. To: All (#1251)

So, In lieu of the above, it should be about July 2 before we find this out from the USSAMSM:

" * Home * News * Weekly Analysis * Statements * Articles * Movies * Interviews * Contact us

25 security guards killed and wounded in attack on convoy, 9 vehicles eliminated Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 27 Rajab 1433 Sunday, 17 June 2012 07:47

FARAH, Jun. 17 – At least 15 escort security guards were killed, 10 wounded while 4 escort security vehicles and 5 fuel tankers were destroyed at around 02:00 pm Saturday when Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate carried out a wide scale attack amid operation Al-Farooq on a nato logistical convoy in Gulistan district’s Pitawak, Jawza and others areas.

It is said that another escort security vehicle was also blown to pieces by a landmine near Habibullah petrol pump during the ambush, killing all 4 puppet."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   7:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1253. To: redleghunter, mad dog, All (#1248)

So. In bible study class, do you ever discuss the military or the banksters?

Or just that you'll get everything the military and banksters have now when you get to heaven in your next life.

" It's asking a lot to expect Americans to question the national belief system and think outside the box of exceptionalism. Unlimited resources and steady progress toward infinite horizons are all that most of us have ever known or expected. Without those fundamental expectations, the American dream is impossible.

Without the dream, the United States is impossible. There would be no common ambition of growth and prosperity to hold us all together. Without the dream, a chaotic explosion of collective anger and dispair (sic) would likely tear the US apart.

Small wonder then that most American citizens cling so desperately to hopeful visions of the future and cherished memories of the past. We've enjoyed our vivid and exciting dream for hundreds of years. Who would wish for that dream to end? What kind of American would willingly rise from their lifelong reverie and go forth to trudge down a dreary road of diminished expectations, limited possibilities and meager comforts?

A traitor, that's who. An enemy of the United States and everything it stands for. We are all traitors here and should expect to be treated as such by those who have not yet awakened.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   8:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1254. To: Liberator (#1247)

Next: This ain't bible study class. And Jesus Fucking Christ...is EVERYONE here a bible thumpin' Fundy?....8D

Dunno. Just be glad our message and 'Good News' keeps afloat JUST in case you wise up and attend to the status of your soul in the next life.

So where in the bible does it say, 'When you fill up the planet destroying everything need to live on, another planet will be provided....or does Rapture take care of that....LMFAO

That's funny sh*t. But blame Satan.

Yes. You do know....;}

'our message'....LMFAO....

You give a rat's ass about my soul.

Love that, 'JUST in case'.

Too bad, you're 'JUST in case' story plays right into Evil's story. But good thing that POWER always trumps religion & evil....;}

Just takes awhile, here on Planet Hell....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   8:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1255. To: redleghunter, liberator, All (#1248)

"We cannot look to the conscience of the world when our own conscience is asleep."

Carl von Ossietzky

"Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act."

Dietrich Bonhoeffer

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   8:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1256. To: e_type_jag (#1223)

"Come here, Spare, Flat. Right now"....

has a certain weird connotation to it...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   8:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1257. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Of course this happened.

There's a reason for a Holocaust Museum in the Imperial City.... for jews...

But not one for either Blacks or First Nation....;}

"After combing through obscure records, newspapers and journals Downs believes that about a quarter of the four million freed slaves either died or suffered from illness between 1862 and 1870. He writes in the book that it can be considered "the largest biological crisis of the 19th century" and yet it is one that has been little investigated by contemporary historians.

Downs believes much of that is because at the time of the civil war, which raged between 1861 and 1865 and pitted the unionist north against the confederate south, many people did not want to investigate the tragedy befalling the freed slaves. Many northerners were little more sympathetic than their southern opponents when it came to the health of the freed slaves and anti-slavery abolitionists feared the disaster would prove their critics right.

"In the 19th century people did not want to talk about it. Some did not care and abolitionists, when they saw so many freed people dying, feared that it proved true what some people said: that slaves were not able to exist on their own," Downs told the Observer."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   8:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1258. To: mcgowanjm (#1254) (Edited)

'our message'....LMFAO....

You give a rat's ass about my soul.

Love that, 'JUST in case'.

I do, though.

Jimmy, our essence IS "our soul". It survives this state of consciousness just as it dwells in a Dream State.

Life is NOT a random accident. That notion is irrational and does-not-compute.

Consider why a Creator of the Universe would NOT give us the key to the reason we are here...and His Final Plan. Yes..."JUST IN CASE" you open your heart and spirit and find that "grain of a mustard seed".

Too bad, you're 'JUST in case' story plays right into Evil's story. But good thing that POWER always trumps religion & evil....;}

No - "POWER" does NOT "always trump religion" - specifically, NOT true Christianity. It may overwhelm the spirit at times, but never when the Name of Jesus is invoked. I know that's a fairy tale for you, but...millions will vouch for my testimony.

How can you refute an Evil vs. Good conflict throughout history? Or that man's nature IS to sin?

Just takes awhile, here on Planet Hell....;}

This mortal life was NEVER intended to be Eden once Adam and Eve did their thing.

You have TWO options in this life:

1) Succumb to your human nature, believe The Serpent, and deny The Redeemer

2) Soften your heart and try understanding the accept the offer of grace from The Redeemer, and exist forever in indescribably wonderful Heaven. It will grant you the peace of mind you search for but struggle mightily with.

Time runs short before standing (and trembling) before The Almighty in Judgment. That moment will be the Panic of all Panics followed by the loneliness of all loneliness as you are *eternally* cut off from the Light.

Ponder...living forever in a dark closet. ALONE. Only you can't even touch the walls never mind touch, see, or speak to anyone...except the demons mocking you. THAT is the definition of REAL "hell".

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   9:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1259. To: mcgowanjm, redleghunter, ALL (#1255) (Edited)

"We cannot look to the conscience of the world when our own conscience is asleep."

Carl von Ossietzky

All that matters is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ; the waking state of conscience of the world is an individual responsibility - especially after having heard "The Good News" from others.

"Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act."

Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God will hold NO ONE "guiltless", period. Evil permeates this world, of which Satan takes advantage and whispers into our ears. Our Free Will makes a decision to sin. Bonhoeffer provides NO newsflash.

THIS is the reason He sent His guiltless Son Jesus Christ to take on ALL the sins of the world.

John 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   9:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1260. To: e_type_jag (#1223)

we have a little boy who is now asking for a sibling to play with.

i've thought that it's probably not a bad idea from a reliability / failure mode or worst case analysis perspective that we do in fact have a backup in case something goes wrong with the existing pre adolescent unit we now have.

she is a somewhat ambivalent but seems to be coming around to the idea.

I have one...a boy, now a young adult. A sibling does change their personality - I think it makes them more confident and secure (reflecting in retrospect). Sometimes I wish I had #2, but then I wasn't ready then either. Tough call. These days at times I wish I'd pulled the trigger...

You're little guy is what - about 3 yo??

If the old lady is gonna pull that trigger, she's gotta do it soon. Better do some nudging (and show her this post). Beyond a 4 year difference and the two sibs won't ever hang out together...until they're older adults. So...Uncle Lib sez: "Git the champagne ready tonight!"

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   10:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1261. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Furthermore, the Nazi regime "boasted openly of its new system of 'police justice' by which the Secret Police (Gestapo) and the Criminal Police (Kripo) could decide for themselves what the law was, and send people to the camps at will." The Times tells us:

That record, and Mr. Awlaki’s calls for more attacks, presented Mr. Obama with an urgent question: Could he order the targeted killing of an American citizen, in a country with which the United States was not at war, in secret and without the benefit of a trial?

The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel prepared a lengthy memo justifying that extraordinary step, asserting that while the Fifth Amendment’s guarantee of due process applied, it could be satisfied by internal deliberations in the executive branch

Thus do the President and his fellow murderers dispense with charges and trials altogether; relying on secret (non-existent and/or usually erroneous or extremely doubtful) evidence, which is evaluated in secret by means of secret standards, they "decide for themselves what the law" is. Once again, they part company from the Nazis, at least as far as the Nazis' actions in the first years of their rule are concerned: Obama and the other murderers today don't merely "send people to the camps at will." Instead, they kill them.

But of course, we tell ourselves, it could never happen here."

-Arhtur Silber

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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