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Title: Mcgowanjm Wire 2012
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Published: Feb 26, 2012
Author: Various
Post Date: 2012-02-26 09:15:13 by A K A Stone
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Mcgowinjm Wire Service.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

8D

Needing an 'a' instead of an 'i'.

Laughing out loud...at your service.

'There will be various'.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-26   9:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Corrected sir.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-26   9:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#1)

So, in lieu of payment,....I get gasoline credits?

Good at my local station? 8D

Repeating:

A Colonel and Major were shot in the back of the head by a Senior Afghan Intel Officer.

Time for Hillary to take off from directing our forces in Syria for a Surprise Kabul Landing....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-26   9:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#2)

Corrected sir.

You are most kind, and efficient.

Kudos to you, sir.

Jim

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-26   9:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone, mcgowanjm (#0)

Mcgowanjm Wire Service.

So is he going to be our new National Wire Service????

"The trouble with our liberal friends are not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-26   9:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82 (#5)

So is he going to be our new National Wire Service????

Don't know. This is all news to me....8D

The Taliban, who have claimed responsibility for the attack, said 'a hero mujahid Abdul Rahman' killed four advisers over the burning of Korans at a US-run military base.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2106305/Afghanistan-2-US-troops-killed-Koran-burning-protests-continue.html#ixzz1nV4BbUAh

The killer of a US Colonel and Major (and 'two more'?) has telephoned a progress report to the Taliban, who have already put this story on their 'wire'...

I'd evac the Afghans right now. The entire Op has been compromised.

As the Taliban take credit for shooting down a drone over Waziristan... which would be huge news (like the Taliban control Pakistan air space better than the Pakis themselves) except for the dead US Col and Major.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-26   10:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

So is he going to be our new National Wire Service????

Don't know. This is all news to me....8D

You seem to be doing a better job of reporting the news than they are.....

"The trouble with our liberal friends are not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-26   10:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: CZ82 (#7)

Don't know. This is all news to me....8D

You seem to be doing a better job of reporting the news than they are.....

Fulsome praise indeed.

Surprised and taken aback by genuine trust....my very weakness of not expecting same....

Thank you, Cz...8D

So when I post, where does this show up.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   10:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

The killer of a US Colonel and Major (and 'two more'?) has telephoned a progress report to the Taliban, who have already put this story on their 'wire'...

The killer is still at large last I heard. What a mess. US advisers are being evacuated from 'safe and secure' buildings.

What a mess - oh, I repeat myself.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-27   10:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

And here we go.

That Sound you're hearing coming out of DC is the Eye on every neck of every 'chief' of every Intel Agency being violently pulled away from whatever they thought was pressing....;}

"University of Wyoming political science professor Jim King said the potential for a complete unraveling of the U.S. government and economy is “astronomically remote” in the foreseeable future...."

Which translated means the USSA has mere months now before going Non Linear.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10) (Edited)

Syria: The Battle of Homs was won and reported to President Bashar al-Assad that it was over on Thursday, 23 February, at 1900 hours.

Watch as Syria fades from your Statetv screen now....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11) (Edited)

"They were given permission to enter the premises with ambulances to repatriate the bodies of the two dead journalists, and to evacuate the rest, both injured and sound. However, at the last moment, the journalists refused to leave, fearing a trap set up by the Damascus authorities. Indeed, they had been told by their French colleagues who left the scene earlier that the Syrian government would strive to eliminate them. Moreover, having access only to satellite TV channels controlled by NATO and the GCC, they are convinced that the fighting of which they are the victims is not only limited to their neighborhood, but extends throughout all of Syria. ..."

Being on the spot, I offered my services to the authorities to facilitate the removal of my compatriots and colleagues. The negotiations lasted over four hours. Several states, including France, were kept abreast of these events.

After several twists and turns, the officers of the Free "Syrian" Army received the instruction via satellite to decline. Their encrypted communications with their superiors either ended up in Beirut or were relayed via Beirut. De facto the journalists are being used as human shields even more effectively than civilians, the rebels fearing a final assault by Syrian forces.

Therefore, journalists are now the prisoners of those who sponsor the Free "Syrian" Army, the very same ones on whose behalf the "Friends of Syria," gathered at the Tunis conference, appealed for support, funds and arms.

-Thierry Meyssan

www.voltairenet.org/For-the-release-of-our-compatriots

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#12)

Kunstler Blog this AM:

Right on the mark per usual...except.....

"The political spin is a quixotic effort to promote another commonly touted lie about the future: that the US is approaching a point of "energy independence."

MY Edit: But we ARE achieving Energy Independence. Just not the kind that the USSA citizen was looking for...;}

You'll know we got there when you have to walk to your new job weeding the potato fields. The mendacity behind this propaganda is strictly the wish of politicians to avoid telling voters the truth, out of sheer cowardice for the consequences. US Energy Secretary Steven Chu will go down in history as a pathetically passive quisling, who thought he was honest and patriotic by standing in the background and keeping his mouth shut...."

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/02/a-fog-of-mendacity.html#more

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13) (Edited)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p0Y4nX...2-02-27+at+9.30.59+AM.png

Stuart at

earlywarn.blogspot.com/20...gas-prices-high.html#more

Detailing the Cardiac Arrest that the USSA Economy is in the Middle of right now. Started May 05.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

" Kabul on razor's edge By M K Bhadrakumar

The killing in Kabul on Saturday of two high-ranking American military officials - a colonel and a major - serving with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) will prompt a paradigm shift in regional security. Afghanistan surges as still America's number one "hot spot", over-shadowing Syria and Iran.

www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NB28Df02.html

We need to be pulling out our forces now so that they aren't stranded...

unless we consider Russia's guarantee of safe conduct thru their state to be trusted and valid when we most need them....;}

"

If President Barack Obama thought it was time for the United States military to "pivot" toward the Asia-Pacific, it has been delusionary thinking. The Taliban retain a big say still in the upcoming campaign for Obama's re-election bid.."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15) (Edited)

" Crocker added, "This is not the time to decide that we are done here. We have got to redouble our efforts. We've got to create a situation that al-Qaeda is not coming back. If we decide we're tired of it, al-Qaeda and the Taliban certainly aren't." Hmm. Now we know Crocker was addressing the American public. "

And I'm sure that our Saigon Ambassador made similar noises, secure in the belief that he had a SpecOps provided getaway Helo.

And noting from the 'Syria article' above that AQ is our bestest buddies now in both Libya and Syria but not in the Afghans....

Your State Dept at work....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

Syria: The Battle of Homs was won and reported to President Bashar al-Assad that it was over on Thursday, 23 February, at 1900 hours.

What more do you have on this battle?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-27   13:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Nothing now, except that Thierry's report is holding up, based on the Two/other reporters being moved to Beirut.

Nic Robertson (MI6-CNN) stating that 3 'activists' lost their lives, getting the reporters out....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#18) (Edited)

www.stripes.com/news/midd...ack-of-awareness-1.169946

"“This is not going back to business as usual,” an Army officer who works as an adviser in Kabul said Sunday. “The threat is still higher than normal.”

Once advisers return to the ministries, the officer said, some will probably have to shorten their visits, instead of remaining there for six- to 10-hour shifts, to reduce risks."

Why burn a book?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#19)

Why burn a Book?

Remember that Idiot snake handler in Florida who burned a Koran?

Evidently our famous CIA/SpecOps did not.

" A particularly revealing incident was the killing of a US colonel and major by an Afghan official inside the Afghan Interior Ministry’s Command and Control Center—supposedly one of the most secure facilities in Kabul.

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy.

" The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both......and jesus wept.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mcgowanjm (#20)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

That version of events is hard for me to believe.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-28   9:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All (#20)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy.

This. IS. Huge.

First, it reveals the Big Lie. These two, the LtCol and the Major were NOT just sitting at their deskes engaged in 'hearts&minds' coordination.

They were joking about burning the 'word of god' to Afghans.

And

Second, there was no intrigue here as 'back of the head' implies like how do you shoot TWO (one a SpecOps) in the back of the head.

EIGHT TIMES...that's a lot of noise in a building.

" Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy."

Was Saboor applauded as he walked out? As he got in his vehicle and drove away?

With this event there maybe 5 people on both sides- green & blue -talking back and forth to each other.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#21)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

That version of events is hard for me to believe.

It would be for me as well, except as I've posted above, the Two shots, one to each, to the back of the head was always harder to accept.

And the fact that Saboor did not slink away but was admired as he walked thru the building....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23) (Edited)

And of course the reaction by ISAF/NATO/USSA to immediately bring in ALL Liaisons with Afghan personnel speaks volumes.

The Washington Post quoted two Afghan policemen at a Kabul checkpoint. "Afghans and the world’s Muslims should rise against the foreigners. We have no patience left," one said, while his partner added, "We both will attack the foreign military people."

Again. Why would you burn a book?

[A]fter 2014, the Afghans will do the bulk of the fighting but will still have advisers from abroad in combat with them. U.S. forces are still expected to supply air support, artillery, medical evacuation and combat logistics after 2014 because the Afghan army will have none of these support services ready before 2016 at the earliest. The U.S. role will shift, but it is critically important to understand that, in the shift to a mission mainly devoted to advising and supporting — whatever the terms used — our forces will still be fighting on the ground, before, during and after 2014.

We'll be out by Xmas. Which means Iran will not have it's Eastern flank exposed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: All (#24)

Considering what we now know about the true strength of the Afghan National Army (ANA), the prospects for a clean cut appear slimmer everyday.

Depending on who’s doing the counting, the ANA consists of 100,000 to 150,000 soldiers, but only 1 percent of their units can operate without direct NATO assistance, according to Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, an officer with the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a recent interview with Military.com.

All we've done is create a ready made Army for the Taliban.

Maybe we should start cooperating with the ISI now for some valuable info instead of trying to destroy it?

And keeping the Pakistanis from taking Iranian gas....;}

To ReCap:

"Depending on who’s doing the counting, the ANA consists of 100,000 to 150,000 soldiers, but only 1 percent of their units can operate without direct NATO assistance, according to Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, an officer with the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a recent interview with Military.com.

Scaparrotti appears to think it is somewhat redeeming that after $12 billion of U.S. investment in 2011 alone, 42 percent of the ANA units are capable of leading security operations “with advisers.”

Thanks a lot — considering that after this week’s riots, NATO didn’t even deem its advisers safe enough to let them continue their work in the ministry buildings. ...

As of this moment there is almost ZERO interaction between this MultiBillion Army and ISAF/NATO/USSA...;}

Mullah Omar could give the order today and how many of that Army would fight under the White Taliban flag?

After 11 years and this is our effort revealed?

It's looking more and more like Saigon 1975.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   10:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mcgowanjm (#22)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy.

interesting

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-28   10:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#21)

You can't burn satans book (the koran) but you can burn gods book (the Bible).

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-28   10:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#26)

interesting

As for Karzai himself, installed as president by the US-led invasion of 2001 and long derided as the "mayor of Kabul," he stands exposed as the tool of a hated foreign occupation, despised even by his own policemen.

Don't you know that Palace is tense right now....;}

The desecration of the Korans at Bagram flows inexorably from the reactionary character of the US-led occupation of Afghanistan—a war of aggression waged against the Afghan people in the face of widespread opposition to war in the American and European working class.

Who had nothing to do with 9/11.

Amazingly, the act of burning a book will be the death of the Afghan Occupation.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   10:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mcgowanjm (#28)

Amazingly, the act of burning a book will be the death of the Afghan Occupation.

You might want to copyright that quote Jim.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-28   15:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mcgowanjm, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#24)

2014.

We'll be out by Xmas.

You're most likely right. They don't like the US timetable. Stupid to announce one, if you're going to quit just get the hell out.

Bring the troops home where they can burn all the Korans, Bibles, flags, Canadian Tar Sands oil, or whatever they want.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-28   15:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

You might want to copyright that quote Jim.

Feel free to take it as your own....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#27)

You can't burn satans book (the koran) but you can burn gods book (the Bible).

Burning any book is thoughtless.

Unless it's Day After Tomorrow and you're going to die from cold....;}

Even then, start with the Tax Code Section...8D

Just leave it alone. Fahrenheit 451.

Which, btw, gives the lie to the 'accidental' part of the story.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Syria: The Battle of Homs was won and reported to President Bashar al-Assad that it was over on Thursday, 23 February, at 1900 hours.

What more do you have on this battle?

"France opens negotiations with Syria to recover its 18 agents Posted by seumasach on February 27, 2012

Thierry Meyssan

27th February, 2012

On 13 February 2012, Thierry Meyssan revealed on the first Russian television channel that Syria had captured a dozen French soldiers. Voltaire Network is now in a position to confirm that as of 26 February the number of French prisoners is 18 (eighteen).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#33)

If Paris admits that they were on a mission, they will be entitled to prisoner-of-war status and protected by the relative Geneva Convention; but if Paris denies having sent them, they will be considered as foreign civilians and judged in Syria for their crimes, which are punishable by the death penalty.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#34) (Edited)

Can't do a sneak attack on Iran with Russia watching not 25 Klicks away....;}

According to the site, Russia is now able to track and control sea and air movements of U.S. and Israel in the eastern Mediterranean, including the airspace of Cyprus and Greece.

So that the USSA will be the Last to Know?

Please.....;}

" Israeli officials say if they decide to launch a pre-emptive attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, they will do so without the prior consent or knowledge of the US, according to an AP report citing leaked US intelligence.

­The message was conveyed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak to a number of senior US officials visiting the country, the news agency said, citing a US intelligence source. "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: All (#35)

And of course the And All Be All of this Bizarro World 12 year dance....

RPT-Saudi oil output nearing capacity limit | Reuters

www.reuters.com/article/2...udi-idUSL6E8CB0QB20120111

Jan 11, 2012 – Repeats JAN 10 story, no change to text)* Saudi Arabia now pumping just under 10 mln bpd* On paper should be able to reach 12.5 mln bpd* ...

The Saudis are at capacity. Expect Ghawar to do a Cantarell at any time now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: All (#36)

So...

In exchange for the French POW's....

" In the secret war against Syria, France and its allies are responsible for a conflict that caused the death of at least 3,000 Syrian soldiers and 1,500 civilians, plus economic losses and the sabotage of infrastructure estimated at least $ 3 billion.

inthesenewtimes.com/2012/...to-recover-its-18-agents/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone, All (#37)

Battle of Syria

*ping*

the above.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: All (#38) (Edited)

"The Afghan War shouldn’t be the world’s most complicated subject to deal with. After all, the message is clear enough. Eleven years in, if your forces are still burning Korans in a deeply religious Muslim country, it’s way too late and you should go.

Instead, the U.S. command in Kabul and the administration back home have proceeded to tie themselves in a series of bizarre knots, issuing apologies, orders, and threats to no particular purpose as events escalated."

"The only Afghans with access to that area are translators, Afghan officials said.

And I still don't believe that Interior Ministry Story....

"The BBC's Orla Guerin in Kabul says EIGHT shots were reported inside the building, which should be one of the safest in the capital, and that any Afghan who carried out the attack would have had the highest clearance....

And then the wo/man calmly walked out the front door, got in a car, and drove away, telephoning the Taliban to report FOUR men killed....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: All (#39) (Edited)

And here's some news:

From 1978...note how Afghan Movements perfectly reflect US Domestic ones....;}

"Reform and reaction: AD 1978-1979

Daud's government is overthrown (and he and most of his family killed) by a lef-wing faction within the army. When the coup is complete, the officers hand over control to the nation's two leftist political parties - Khalq (the People's party) and Parcham (the Banner party). The two are for once working in harmony, though only briefly.

Once in government, the two Khalq leaders seize power. Nur Mohammad Taraki becomes president and prime minister, with Hafizullah Amin as one of two deputy prime ministers. The Parcham leader, Babrak Karmal, is the other deputy prime minister - but he is soon despatched abroad as ambassador to Prague.

Taraki and Amin press ahead with a rapid programme of reform along communist lines. Equal rights for women are introduced, land is redistributed - all against the advice of Moscow, which favours a more cautious approach for fear of a Muslim backlash. Meanwhile the leaders of the Parcham party are persecuted and in several cases killed. Many, including Babrak Karmal, take refuge in Russia.

The Kremlin is soon proved right.

Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmpepQBs

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   10:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All (#40) (Edited)

Noting here how British Endeavors are ALWAYS presented as Victories, even as it's Empire is crumbling.....

sound familiar?

" In November 1878 three British armies push through the mountain passes into Afghanistan. They take Jalalabad and Kandahar by the end of the year, and soon seem to have achieved everything they might wish for. A very advantageous treaty is agreed in May 1879 with Yakub Khan (the son of Sher Ali, who has died in February).

Under the treaty Yakub Khan accepts a permanent British embassy in Kabul. Moreover Afghanistan's foreign affairs are from now on to be conducted by the British. But events soon prove that such a privilege can be dangerous in Afghanistan. In September the British envoy to Kabul and his entire staff and escort are massacred.

This disaster brings an immediate escalation of British military activity in Afghanistan, but to little political advantage.

Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmqbdc5n

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   10:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: All (#41)

And Karzai's chances of getting out of the Afghans alive get worse by the day:

"In March 1979 a resistance group declares a jihad, or holy war, against the godless regime in Kabul. In the same month more than 100 Soviet citizens living in Herat are seized and killed.

Meanwhile the two Khalq leaders are themselves at loggerheads. In September 1979 the president, Taraqi, attempts to assassinate his prime minister, Amin. Instead, within two days, Taraqi is in the hands of Amin supporters. Three weeks later he dies - 'of a serious illness', according to the official announcement.

Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmrOhyDX

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: All (#42)

"In March 1979 a resistance group declares a jihad, or holy war, against the godless regime in Kabul. In the same month more than 100 Soviet citizens living in Herat are seized and killed.

And what was happening in Iran at this time, you ask?

Iranian Revolution novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/his135/Events/Iran79.htmCached - Similar

31 March 1979, referendum approved the establishment of an Islamic ... 4 November 1979, Iranian militants seized the U.S. embassy in Teheran and held ...

So by the 4th of November, right smack dab in the middle of POTUS Election, Saigon 1975 in Kabul.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: hondo68 (#30)

They don't like the US timetable. Stupid to announce one

They did not want to.

Look thru the entire 'adventure'. McCain, only a lil while ago again stated the 'mission' was open ended.

You don't need Top Secret Intel to figure DC out....;}

CYA is Always the GoTo option.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: hondo68, All (#44)

""Now we are zooming the 5th floor of reactor 3, where the fuel storage pool is. We must be able to see the top of the fuel storage pool at the very place. There “must” be the fuel storage pool in the center of the screen. However, we can not see even a part of the pool from the sky."

Example of the finest CYA as only the Japanese know how.

Proclaiming that Fukushima is now in 'cold shutdown' and 'under control' there is therefore no need to prevent overflights.

The Major Media have thus been doing just that.

And so discover that the SFP of Reactor #3, the MOX reprocessed stuff is no longer there....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mcgowanjm (#44)

Jim, I'm reading; keep posting. Thanx...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-29   11:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mcgowanjm (#45)

the SFP of Reactor #3, the MOX reprocessed stuff is no longer there....

Even the pilgrims are using nuke power now. Move on up to the 20th century at least, if you can't make it all the way to the 21st.

Those Iranians are sure SLOW at building those plants. What's the hold up?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-29   15:23:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: hondo68 (#47)

Those Iranians are sure SLOW at building those plants. What's the hold up?

STUXNET.

The problem for Israel is that the Iranians are THE past masters at Reverse Engineering....;}

The next nuke will be better and cost less.

Just like the next Iranian 'Sunburn, sub, Remote Stealth, Train, Car, Subway, City Design, will be.....8D

Which is why Israel hates them.

An Alt Society is Anathema to Israelis....bad example to their slaves.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: All (#48)

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

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So if Hague, Hammond and Cameron love Israel so much let them and the regime’s other admirers don uniform and flak-jacket and go play battleships in the Gulf’s “bathtub” themselves. Who in their right mind would volunteer to be that trio’s cannon-fodder?

Note the ONLY place you find Israeli 'soldiers' is guarding their ghettoes?

Someone needs to make these points clear. And I agree, it's as if they want to be hated, the stuff that comes out of their 1% mouths.

O they're very clear to the 10% of the Bottom 99.

The Intelligentsia of the Bottom 99.

The 80% in the Middle ALWAYS go with the flow.

See: At height of Revolutionary Resistance only 10%, including women, children, were fighting the Brits, for details....;}

"Whether the wars in the Middle East are really about oil, central banking control, or military-industrial profits seems irrelevant to the general public who have been only conditioned to believe in simple concepts like good versus evil. Obviously, everyone naturally views their side as good. Despite extraordinary evidence of our side's grotesque misdeeds, making the mental leap that we're the worst of the bad guys seems to be too big a gap to close for most people."

All you have to do is cleanse the Trolls and Stand/Hold your ground....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: All (#49)

alt-market.com/articles/5...stify-more-preemptive-war

02:23 AM EDT on March 1st, 2012 | 41 comments *Listen* Top US Nuclear Official: Melted core penetrates concrete at 2 inches per hour — No doubt containment is lost during blackout — Mark I worst of all — Manual tells you everything except how to stop it (AUDIO)

01:41 AM EDT on March 1st, 2012 | 14 comments WSJ Reporter: ‘Eerily quiet’ at Fukushima given massive amount to be done — What really hit me is how much radiation levels vary around plant (VIDEO)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: All (#50)

In the most recent GOP debate, a resolved Ron Paul received groans and boos from the crowd for attempting to explain the "just war" principle of using military for defense only when referring to Iran. He then received an awkward silence when he explained that war should only be acceptable if the people's representatives vote for it per the Constitution. Similarly, he heard crickets with his historical perspective of the USSR's thousands of proven nuclear warheads pointed at America to show what little threat Iran actually poses. Finally, he tried to explain that war is a bad idea economically; that we simply can't afford it.

Nothing seemed to sway much of the audience. They only see good and evil. And they've been told Iran and Syria are evil. Therefore, the evil doers must be dealt with through death and destruction like all the other GOP candidates advocate.

By the way, the Obama Administration supports the exact same war mongering as is obvious by the State Department's rhetoric and actions outlined above.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: All (#51)

Somehow the masses, who are the only ones who can stop the bloodshed, continue to buy the propaganda and rubber stamp the murderous aggressive wars. The gullibility of the masses has surpassed embarrassing levels, and unless there is a rapid awakening, we are surely headed for blood....;}

This seems to happen with humans also: Paul Buchheit, from DePaul University, revealed, “From 1980 to 2006 the richest 1% of America tripled their after-tax percentage of our nation’s total income, while the bottom 90% have seen their share drop over 20%.” Robert Freeman added, “Between 2002 and 2006, it was even worse: an astounding three-quarters of all the economy’s growth was captured by the top 1%.”

This sounds exactly like the kind of hierarchical behavior observed in the animal kingdom when social species get stressed. If there is not enough to go around, resources that are available are concentrated in the hands of those at the top of the pyramid, marginalizing those at the bottom of the pyramid. If total resources are inadequate, population at the bottom of the pyramid is reduced, leaving those at the top untouched.

In this post, I discuss some of the issues raised by Dilworth and the parallels I see with humans. I also add a perspective of hope....

ourfiniteworld.com/2012/0...at-went-wrong/#more-15362

A perspective of hope was hopeless. She thinks Religion and just 'moving on' will solve the Top 1% Psychos....;}

Go ahead Israel. Fuck Up.. Quick...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: All (#52)

CHUCK CASTO [Deputy Regional Administrator]: [...] if we end up with a molten core and then you talk about the time for the concrete to disassociate, you know, that NUREG says it's

a couple of inches an hour,

you know. And, of course, that Mark 1 containment is the worst one of all the containments we have, and it's literally, you know, this NUREG tells you that in a station blackout you're going to lose containment. There's no doubt about it.

# Kevin Kevin March 1, 2012 at 3:19 am Log in to Reply

Only about 8 feet of concrete to eat through at 2 inches an hour, I would imagine once it hits earth it travels much more rapidly.

love you short quips though, you gotta great sense of humour

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* Alice Alice March 1, 2012 at 4:09 am Log in to Reply

I swear, Kevin, there have been days when I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

All the right ingredients for a blockbuster disaster movie but all too real.

We're going over an abyss.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: All (#53)

Here's whose riding the rails to Hell, A K.

Not the Peace loving Gays....and their proponents...;}

" Like a greasy loan shark working for a hardboiled mob cartel, World Bank’s M.O. is to lend large capital packages (made with money or credit created out of thin air) which the target country and its government obviously cannot afford to pay back. These loans often stipulate that the country relinquish control of its natural resources, the true wealth of the nation, over to international corporate bodies for “management”. Through this process, World Bank removes competition from a market and hands designated companies (globalist front-companies) the keys to the kingdom. ...

The (Partial)List of Hell Goers, A K...

" -Dr Ismali Serageldin (Commission Chair), Vice President, World Bank, and Chair of Global Water Partnership

-Margaret Catley-Carlson, President, Population Council

-Gordon Conway, President, The Rockefeller Foundation

-Mohamed T. El-Ashry, Chair and CEO of the Global Environment Facility

-Howard Hjort, former Deputy Director, FAO

-Enriquo Iglesias, President, Inter-American Development Bank

-Yolanda Kababadse, President, World Conservation Union

-Jessica Mathews, President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, USA

-Robert S. McNamara, Co-Chair, Global Coalition for Africa

-Maurice Strong, Chair, Earth Council, member of Commission on Global Governance, and a chief adviser in charge of the UN reform process

-Wilfred Thalwitz, former Senior VP, World Bank

-Jerome Mondo, Chair of the Supervisory Board, Suez Lyonnaise des Eaux

In March of 2000, the forum made the following statement:

“Water is an economic good and its economic value should be recognized in the allocation of scarce water resources to competing uses. While this should not prevent people from meeting their basic needs for water services at affordable prices, the price for water must be set at a level that encourages conservation and wise use...”

www.waternunc.com/gb/secwwf11.htm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone, All (#54) (Edited)

Print France’s secret war against the Syrian people

Voltaire Network | 22 February 2012

www.voltairenet.org/France-s-secret-war-against-the

français عربي Deutsch

During the assault on the rebel stronghold in the Homs district of Bab Amr, the Syrian army took more than 1,500 prisoners, mostly foreigners. Of these, a dozen French nationals requested the status of prisoner of war, refusing to give their identity, rank and unit of assignment. One of them is a Colonel working for the DGSE transmission service.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: All (#55)

Chief Judge Richard Cebull, a George W. Bush appointee to the federal district court in Montana, admitted yesterday to sending a racist email forward comparing President Obama’s conception to sex with a dog:

“A little boy said to his mother; ‘Mommy, how come I’m black and you’re white?’” the email joke reads. “His mother replied, ‘Don’t even go there Barack! From what I can remember about that party, you’re lucky you don’t bark!’” [...]

Cebull said his brother initially sent him the email, which he forwarded to six of his “old buddies” and acquaintances.

He admitted that he read the email and intended to send it to his friends.

“The only reason I can explain it to you is I am not a fan of our president, but this goes beyond not being a fan,” Cebull said. “I didn’t send it as racist, although that’s what it is. I sent it out because it’s anti-Obama.“

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: All (#56)

A 25-point gap now separates supporters and opponents of marriage equality in California, with 59 percent of residents backing same-sex marriage and just 34 percent opposing it, a new Field survey finds. This represents “the largest margin of support for the issue in the three-plus decades the Field Poll has been asking the question”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mcgowanjm (#57)

This represents “the largest margin of support for the issue in the three-plus decades the Field Poll has been asking the question”

This will throw A K into a tizzy.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-01   9:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: All (#57) (Edited)

These people are clueless.....they are your leaders.....8D

"Which route will Israel choose?

It will go over Syria. There would be hell to pay if Israel went over Turkey or Jordan. If the Saudis “permitted” it, the Iranians would retaliate by assassinating Saudis all over the world. So it will be Syria. This is especially true as the country is in chaos today.

Will Syria attempt to shoot down Israeli aircraft flying over its territory?

Yes, it has surface-to-air capability and it also has MiG-23 and MiG-27 fighters. The Israelis will escort their bombers over Syria with their F16s. These fighters will wipe out anything that Syria puts up. The ground-based defenses are old, and no doubt, poorly manned these days.

1) Russia is right next to it's Syrian Counterparts with these S-300 Systems.

1a)Russia from it's base in Tartarus, plus contacts in the Pentagon/WH will know the instant Israel Launches.

2)Syria is not in trouble from it's 'war with hillary's State Dept Mercs. Being encircled and rounded up as I type.

3) Most importantly of All, Iran will KNOW that Israel is coming. From Over a 1000 miles away.

3a)They will be ready....;}

4) Note how the Above casually dismiss Iraq Airspace as a hindrance? That going over Jordan will have 'more hell to pay' than going over Iraq?

Like the Tsar of Russia July 1914...just clueless.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   10:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: All (#59) (Edited)

"As of today, Israel “officially” has only thirty of these bunker bombs. It has a total of 100 F15 attack bombers, so it needs more bombs to fully utilize their strike capability. Look for a sign on this. If the US agrees to supply more bombs, the timing is close"...8D

The LULZ here is that somehow the USSA thinks these diplomatic niceties of looking somewhere, aNywhere but at Israel when it attacks will absolve it of any War making v Iran.

Iran will immediately attack the USSA and it's infrastructure.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   10:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: All (#60) (Edited)

THIS is when you get the ' no one could've predicted this' spontaneous street uprisings in Amerika...

" Unbelievable Stress of Making "Only" $200,000 After Taxes

People who have nothing to eat, no job, and are about to be tossed out of their homes in foreclosure, really do not know what stress is.

To fully appreciate stress, please consider the sorry "plights" of Andrew Schiff, marketing director for Euro Pacific Capital, Daniel Arbeeny, a Wall Street headhunter, and hedge-fund manager Richard Scheiner....

“People who don’t have money don’t understand the stress,” said Alan Dlugash, a partner at accounting firm Marks Paneth & Shron LLP in New York who specializes in financial planning for the wealthy. “Could you imagine what it’s like to say I got three kids in private school, I have to think about pulling them out? How do you do that?”

Wall Street’s cash bonus pool fell by 14 percent last year to $19.7 billion, the lowest since 2008, according to projections by New York state Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli.

“It’s a disaster,” said Ilana Weinstein, chief executive officer of New York-based search firm IDW Group LLC.

LMFAO 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   10:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: All (#61)

And per Bloomberg, the most important news of the day:

Greece Default SWAPS Don’t Have to Pay: ISDA By Abigail Moses - Mar 1, 2012 9:01 AM CT

To ReCap:

The USSA can create $1.7+ Quadrillion in Debt derivatives including the Trillions in Debt Default Insurance and then, when the Financial House burns, the 'Insurance Agencies' don't have to pay off.....LMFAO

That'll fix everything....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   10:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Fred Mertz (#58)

This will throw A K into a tizzy.

Yes, the establishment will counter-attack and use any means to remain in power and control but their days are numbered. Like Goebbels and the Berlin propaganda in early 1945, they can still issue proclamations, enact decrees and frighten the citizens but soon a large enough percentage of the electorate will know the truth. The emperor has no clothes and the rulers as well as the power elites hiding behind the scenes are frightened....

very frightened. And listening to the likes of Gen McCaffrey and his ilk.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   11:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: mcgowanjm (#63)

Yes, the establishment will counter-attack and use any means to remain in power and control but their days are numbered.

How many days?

And how many days until the Gulf Coast evacuation?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-17   9:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#64)

Yes, the establishment will counter-attack and use any means to remain in power and control but their days are numbered.

How many days?

And how many days until the Gulf Coast evacuation?

Thanx, A K.

I have a hard time finding this thread....

Macondo still leaking oil.

USbpecocide still ongoing.

didn't bother posting Chevron Pascagoula oil spill cause pretty much everything's been ruined there already.

Kinda like Nigeria....;}

bp will pay, there will be no evacs from anywhere ever again...;}

Going Non Linear at anytime now.

But this is Planet Hell....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   9:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#64)

How many days?

And how many days until the Gulf Coast evacuation?

If we're not evacuating from Fukushima....;}

"Our forefathers must be turning over in their graves right now to know that a British company can come over here and recklessly and blatantly pillage our Gulf, ruin it, and then try to play technicality games to get out of having to pay!! Why do I even have to write this letter to begin with? Where is the justice? Where is the justice for the 11 men who died on the rig? Where is the justice for my friend, my family, and the wildlife??

Want to go back to talkin' about those poor fetuses now?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: All (#66)

See, the problem is that once you've gone ignorant, you don't know what to pay attention to anymore.

You can start paying attention, but it's painful at first. Just like an addict in withdrawal.

Just the way the USSA likes it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A K A Stone (#64)

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BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA...so this is like our own little private massage board now, eh A K?

LMFAO

Here. Taste this...

img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7Ys_zk...2-03-15+at+8.40.34+AM.png This time next year below $40....but more expensive than ever.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All (#68)

So, no real money was handed over, no cries of pain from Berlin, no let-up in the ‘Greece is dead’ leaks by the IMF, no political kudos seen by Venizelos in staying to take the credit for Greek salvation, no action by Athens on the i’s and t’s of the Brussels Accord, and no accusations from the Troika about that. But a concerted push for Berlin to get a firm grip on the eurogroup.

That all adds up, I think, to something both nasty and imminent..."

Planet Hell....and God doesn't have to send us anywhere. We're already there....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: All (#40)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:51:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: All (#70)

Note the dates above:

December 02 ramping up the Invasion of Iraq...discomfort in the chest area...

and May 05 PO.....'massive stroke' begins.... :twisted:

So, no real money was handed over, no cries of pain from Berlin, no let-up in the ‘Greece is dead’ leaks by the IMF, no political kudos seen by Venizelos in staying to take the credit for Greek salvation, no action by Athens on the i’s and t’s of the Brussels Accord, and no accusations from the Troika about that. But a concerted push for Berlin to get a firm grip on the eurogroup.

That all adds up, I think, to something both nasty and imminent.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

The flailing of the dinosaur tail as the USSA flatlines.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Evacuation from three well bp blow out

The discrepancies pertain to verbal claims that exposure to COREXIT, the dispersant selected by BP and approved by the EPA to treat the oil, was safe, and the health problems actually associated with COREXIT listed in a BP manual.

So despite the fact that BP officials knew the severe health risks tied to Corexit, they told cleanup workers they had absolutely nothing to fear from the dispersant.

The company manual exposes BP’s complete and utter disregard for the safety of cleanup crews that spent months working the waters in the spring and summer of 2010. This key piece of evidence may very well provide the impetus for sick cleanup workers – many of them commercial fishermen and charter boat captains – to opt out of the $7.8 billion class settlement and to sue BP on an individual basis.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   12:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#0)

DATELINE March 17 2011:

More from the GAP report:

The manual lists symptoms of exposure, such as damage to the central nervous system, chemical pneumonia, upper respiratory problems and injury to the kidney, liver or red blood cells (hemolysis). Further, the manual recognizes that crude oil contains benzene and other hazardous chemicals that can cause cancer.

People are sick and dying all along the Gulf Coast. We have a serious situation on our hands that has been largely overlooked by the national media and our elected officials in Washington. "

www.stuarthsmith.com/bp-r...exit-posed-no-health-risk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   12:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K Stone, All (#73)

“I have terrible chest pain, at times I can’t seem to get enough oxygen, and I’m constantly tired with pains all over my body,” Aguinaga explained, “At times I’m pissing blood, vomiting dark brown stuff, and every pore of my body is dispensing water.” Aguinaga’s health has been in dramatic decline.

And Aguinaga’s friend Vallian is now dead.

“After we got back from our vacation in Florida, Merrick went to work for a company contracted by BP to clean up oil in Grand Isle, Louisiana,” Aguinaga said of his 33-year-old physically fit friend.

“Aside from some gloves, BP provided no personal protection for them. He worked for them for two weeks and then died on August 23. He had just got his first paycheck, and it was in his wallet, uncashed, when he died.”

Tragically, there are thousands of accounts just like that of Steven Aguinaga. ....;}

Birng up the Gulf and USbpecocide again....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   12:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: All (#74) (Edited)

The BP manual states that COREXIT is a chronic and acute health hazard under EPA standards, and its toxicity is so severe that special protective equipment and clothing are necessities. But LEAN and GAP have received numerous reports that when cleanup workers sought additional safety equipment, such as respirators donated by LEAN, they were threatened with termination.....

Here’s the link to both the bombshell BP manual and the GAP/LEAN letter:

www.whistleblower.org/act...-coast/bp-resource-manual

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   12:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mcgowanjm (#67)

See, the problem is that once you've gone ignorant, you don't know what to pay attention to anymore.

You can start paying attention, but it's painful at first. Just like an addict in withdrawal.

Just the way the USSA likes it.

There is some kind of code among conservatives that sez you will not criticize the oil industry in any way, shape or form. It's like if you do then it means you hate Nascar, 'rugged individualism' and Bubbas.

If only they could find a founder or two that owned a well or a tar pit, that was used for more than axle grease!

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-17   12:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mcgowanjm (#65)

I have a hard time finding this thread....

google "mcgowanjm wire"

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-17   14:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: A K A Stone (#77)

I have a hard time finding this thread....

google "mcgowanjm wire"

That this thread is for me and I have/had a hard time finding it,

tells me all I need to know.

That I have to go out to google to get back in here and then....

that what I post is not 'displayed'....;}

So the point of Mcgowanjm Wire is what?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-18   8:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: mcgowanjm (#78)

That I have to go out to google to get back in here and then....

that what I post is not 'displayed'....;}

So the point of Mcgowanjm Wire is what?

You think the only way to find it is through google? Some people don't use bookmarks and use google to find anything. lol. You can bookmark it too though.

I thought the purpose of the "wire" was so you could document the happenings in the world from your unique perspective.

Take it or leave it doesn't matter to me.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-18   8:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: mcgowanjm (#78)

Also everything you post here in on topic. Sometimes your other posts not so much.

For example a thread about confessing about voting for Obama. You post "In an interview with the Chicago Tribune, Ken Griffin, founder of the hedge fund Citadel was asked if he thought rich people had too great of an influence on politics. " Which has absolutely nothing to do with the thread. Why do you do that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-18   8:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: A K A Stone (#80)

Because you and yours, just like every apologist for the Top 400, can never ever look farther into the past than the Day After your proxy was thrown out.

That USSA's history of failure started with Obama even when from

November 2008

I've made a special point of showing the Finance/Military White House positions are non negotiable. Whichever 'party's' involved.

Yet, threads like this are put up to show that Obama is the sole reason that the USSA's goin' down the tubes.

That Big Oil, the Banksters, and Israel only want the best for the avg Amerikan and the truth couldn't be further away from that premise.....that's why.

Now maybe you can tell me why you started Mcgowan Wire and then made it impossible to find w/o going out to Google, and then

when found the commments are not displayed....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-18   8:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: A K A Stone (#79)

I thought the purpose of the "wire" was so you could document the happenings in the world from your unique perspective.

Take it or leave it doesn't matter to me.

You mean like some kind of private diary?

Got one already. Thanx.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-18   8:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: A K A Stone (#79)

I thought the purpose of the "wire" was so you could document the happenings in the world from your unique perspective.

The purpose was for me to show you the relevancy of my posts.

To tie them together, put a bow on them, and then spoon feed you with it.

Help you along on your re education.

Still is really.

I guess you just want a private tutorial?

"76. To: mcgowanjm (#67)

See, the problem is that once you've gone ignorant, you don't know what to pay attention to anymore.

You can start paying attention, but it's painful at first. Just like an addict in withdrawal.

Just the way the USSA likes it.

There is some kind of code among conservatives that sez you will not criticize the oil industry in any way, shape or form. It's like if you do then it means you hate Nascar, 'rugged individualism' and Bubbas.

If only they could find a founder or two that owned a well or a tar pit, that was used for more than axle grease!

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

Mininggold gets it....;}

BTW, still want to talk about the disaster that is the USbpEcocide?

How about the ChevronOwningTransocean debacle down in Brazil?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-18   8:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: All (#40)

while today’s Republican presidential candidates reject evidence that humans are responsible for the warming of the earth.....;}

Morning, A K

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-19   8:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: All (#84) (Edited)

What strikes me most forcefully about the metastasizing attacks on women's health and reproductive rights by male Republican legislators is the sheer mean-spirited hostility, not to say hatred, that it reveals.

Now, the men proposing these laws, and in many cases enacting them, are for the most part married. They have wives, who are using birth control medications. They have daughters who are using birth control medications. They have sons whose wives and partners are using birth control medications. And yet, like Rush Limbaugh, who once again performs the indispensable function of saying out loud what these men are thinking, they clearly consider women who seek insurance coverage for birth control medications to be sluts and whores. That is their own wives and daughters whom they are describing in that manner.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-19   8:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: All (#85) (Edited)

Gasoline at $3.83 now.

I find it very unlikely that we would see hyperinflation (as opposed to, perhaps, CoL increases in the 10% annual range) before the Ponzi collapses.

The collapse of the Ponzi will be really caused by a freeze up of credit although the idiot media will focus on a plummeting DOW. It is against their religion to analyze with any honesty.

No credit, no gasoline.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-19   8:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: All (#86) (Edited)

Expecting 10 in next 3 days....;}

Last October, the New York Times reported that those who believed the Earth was warming dropped from 79 percent in 2006 to 59 percent. However, a month later polling experts blamed this decline on a collapse in media coverage and pollsters’ deeply flawed questions.

3 types of denial:

* A literal denial is: “the assertion that something did not happen or is not true.”

* With an interpretive denial, the basic facts are not denied, however, “…they are given a different meaning from what seems apparent to others.” People recognize that something is happening but that it’s good for us.

* Implicatory denial “covers the multitude of vocabularies, justifications, rationalizations, evasions that we use to deal with our awareness of so many images of unmitigated suffering.” Here, “knowledge itself is not an issue. The genuine challenge is doing the ‘right’ thing with this knowledge.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-19   8:49:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: mcgowanjm (#81)

Now maybe you can tell me why you started Mcgowan Wire and then made it impossible to find w/o going out to Google, and then

when found the commments are not displayed....;}

If you click on [Full Thread] at the bottom of this page you'll be able to see all the replies/comments.

I believe the default here shows 40 max replies. You can also punch [Page Up] or [Page Down] if you like. I prefer the [Full Thread] choice.

You're welcome...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-19   9:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: mcgowanjm (#84)

while today’s Republican presidential candidates reject evidence that humans are responsible for the warming of the earth

What evidence?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-19   11:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: A K A Stone (#89)

What evidence?

You are too funny.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-19   11:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: lucysmom (#90)

What evidence?

You are too funny.

What evidence is there that man effects the weather? There is none.

The earth used to be warmer. That is why there is plant life frozen under Antarctica. There is no question the earth used to be warmer then today or that wouldn't be frozen. The only question is why was it colder. I think it was because of the flood in the Bible. We are just coming out of the ice age still. Hence frozen north and south pole.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-19   11:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: A K A Stone (#91)

What evidence is there that man effects the weather? There is none.

If you're new to the climate debate (or are of the mind that there's no evidence for man-made global warming), a good starting point is 10 Indicators of Global Warming which lays out the evidence that warming is happening and the follow-up article, 10 Human Fingerprints on Climate Change which lays out the evidence that humans are the cause. More detail is available in empirical evidence that humans are causing global warming. Contrary to what you may have heard, the case for man-made global warming doesn't hang on models or theory - it's built on direct measurements of many different parts of the climate, all pointing to a single, coherent answer.

www.skepticalscience.com/Newcomers-Start-Here.html

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-19   20:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: A K A Stone (#89)

while today’s Republican presidential candidates reject evidence that humans are responsible for the warming of the earth

What evidence?

That there's ANyone in the GOP race that has said 'humans are responsible for the warming of the earth'.....

OOOOooooOOOH....you mean what evidence Do I have that your religion is correct on humans not being able to destroy the environment/climate and that what's happening now,

like 15 inches of rain last night in Tulsa,

is normal....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:10:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone, All (#90)

Perhaps sparked by global warming denier Jim Inhofe’s recent appearance on the Rachel Maddow Show, Baldwin launched a series of tweets attacking Inhofe:

* Is there a bigger oil whore alive than Jim Inhofe?

* Is there a bigger climate change denier than Jim Inhofe? (Retweeted response to first tweet.)

* We have to get rid of Inhofe in 2014 … he’ll be 79

* We need to have Inhofe retire to a solar-powered gay bar.

* Oil Whore Jim Inhofe has betrayed every man and woman who lost their livelihood on the Gulf due to BP’s overwhelming negligence…

Baldwin’s emails are creating a form of backlash on twitter and elsewhere.

climatechangepsychology.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: All (#94)

| POISONED WEATHER: CATASTROPHIC FLOODING ALERT IN HEARTLAND |

“Widespread and potentially catastrophic areal flooding and river flooding is expected this afternoon through Wednesday morning in Eastern Oklahoma, Western Arkansas, Western Louisiana, and Southwest Missouri, warns the National Weather Service in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in their latest flood watch for the region.” Weather Underground’s Jeff Masters reports.

“Damaging winds, large hail, flash flooding, and few strong tornadoes are expected to affect the area late this afternoon. ” “The ongoing March heat wave in the Midwest is one of the most extreme heat events in U.S. history.” He adds:

“While the blocking pattern responsible for the heat wave is natural, it is very unlikely that the intensity of the heat would have been so great unless we were in a warming climate.”

Forecasters warn of flash flooding in Ark., Okla. - NewsOn6.com ...

www.newson6.com/.../forec...lash-flooding-in-ark-okla

1 hour ago – NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports ... Forecasters say up to 12 inches of rain is possible in isolated areas. The rain ...

Notice how 10 Plus inch rainfalls are getting to be normal?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:21:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: All (#95)

“The ongoing March heat wave in the Midwest is one of the most extreme heat events in U.S. history.”

# Chicago's March heat wave rolls on: Five straight days of record ...

Chicago Tribune‎ - 1 day ago

Chicago hit another record high today when the thermometer hit 75 degrees at noon at O'Hare, continuing a streak of five days of record highs in an ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: All (#96)

#

# Capital Weather Gang - The inside scoop on D.C., Maryland and ...

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang

16 hours ago – @capitalweather Weather news, information, and witty banter .... The longevity of the heat is as impressive as its intensity: temperatures have run some 20 ... Cherry blossoms begin to bloom at the Tidal Basin, March 16, 2012.

And this is just the start.

Arctic ice free this Summer.

Kansas City will have multiple 100+ degree days.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: All (#97)

It's still Winter:

# Spring Weather In Forecast: Temperatures Expected To Reach 20 ...

www.wgntv.com › WeatherCached

Mar 12, 2012 – Springlike weather is in the forecast for the Chicago area for the next two ... with temperatures expected to reach 20 degrees above normal and with ... Staff report Chicago Breaking News ... Chicago's March heat wave rolls on ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: All (#98)

Arctic sea-ice (Image: BBC)The Arctic is warming faster than any other region on the planet, data shows Continue reading the main story Related Stories

* Arctic climate 'tech fixes' urged

* Ice 'tipping point' may not occur

* New warning on Arctic ice melt

Researchers have updated HadCRUT - one of the main global temperate records, which dates back to 1850. One of the main changes is the inclusion of more data from the Arctic region, which has experienced one of the greatest levels of warming. The amendments do not change the long-term trend, but the data now lists 2010, rather than 1998, as the warmest year on record. The update is published in the Journal of Geophysical Research.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: All (#40)

Mish wrote: Highest Price Ever of Gasoline in March; State-by-State Gas Price and Gas Tax Comparison Highest Gas Price Recorded in March An ABC consumer report shows Highest Gas Price Recorded in March

As Return on Consumption plummets, consumption plummets.

Note not a word today about Record March Gas prices..... :twisted:

America is rotten to the core.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   11:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: All (#100)

www.theoilage.com/post57665.html#p57665

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin....cgi?an=28205&cn=100&ac=R

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   11:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: All (#101)

wonder how many of the GOP POTUS candidates made money off 9/11.

Answer: All of 'em.

www.larsschall.com/2012/0...-911-the-facts-laid-bare/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   11:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: All (#102)

LawsofPhysics's picture

Isn't the Fed already leveraged 50x? In fact, can we put the Fed's stat's on these charts? Oh wait, that's right no one really knows as a true and complete audit of the Fed has never been done. How long will the rest of the world let this charade continue? That is all that matters.

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin....cgi?an=28205&cn=102&ac=R

Bookmark this site for your viewing pleasure....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   11:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: All (#103)

Israeli violation of Lebanon sovereignty unacceptable: Russia By: Press TV on: 21.03.2012 [06:40 ] (144 reads)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   11:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

Amazingly, the act of burning a book will be the death of the Afghan Occupation.

You might want to copyright that quote Jim.

The author Mark H Gaffney commented on this finding of “innocuousness”:

Notice … the commission makes no mention in its footnote of the 36 other companies identified by the SEC in its insider trading probe. What about the pre-9/11 surge in call options for Raytheon, for instance, or the spike in put options for the behemoth Morgan Stanley, which had offices in WTC 2? The 9/11 Commission Report offers not one word of explanation about any of this. The truth, we must conclude, is to be found between the lines in the report’s conspicuous avoidance of the lion’s share of the insider trading issue.

Indeed, if the trading was truly “innocuous”, as the report states, then why did the SEC muzzle potential whistleblowers by deputizing everyone involved with its investigation? The likely answer is that so many players on Wall Street were involved that the SEC could not risk an open process, for fear of exposing the unthinkable. This would explain why the SEC limited the flow of information to those with a “need to know”, which, of course, means that very few participants in the SEC investigation had the full picture.

It would also explain why the SEC ultimately named no names. All of which hints at the true and frightening extent of criminal activity on Wall Street in the days and hours before 9/11. The SEC was like a surgeon who opens a patient on the operating room table to remove a tumor, only to sew him back up again after finding that the cancer has metastasized through the system.

At an early stage of its investigation, perhaps before SEC officials were fully aware of the implications, the SEC did recommend that the FBI investigate two suspicious transactions. We know about this thanks to a 9/11 Commission memorandum declassified in May 2009 which summarizes an August 2003 meeting at which FBI agents briefed the commission on the insider trading issue. The document indicates that the SEC passed the information about the suspicious trading to the FBI on September 21, 2001, just ten days after the 9/11 attacks.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   12:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: All (#105)

Although the names in both cases are censored from the declassified document, thanks to some nice detective work by Kevin Ryan we know whom (in one case) the SEC was referring to. The identity of the suspicious trader is a stunner that should have become prime-time news on every network, world-wide. Kevin Ryan was able to fill in the blanks because, fortunately, the censor left enough details in the document to identify the suspicious party who, as it turns out, was none other than Wirt Walker III, a distant cousin to then-president G W Bush.

Several days before 9/11, Walker and his wife Sally purchased 56,000 shares of stock in Stratesec, one of the companies that provided security at the World Trade Center up until the day of the attacks. Notably, Stratesec also provided security at Dulles International Airport, where AA 77 took off on 9/11, and also security for United Airlines, which owned two of the other three allegedly hijacked aircraft. At the time, Walker was a director of Stratesec. Amazingly, Bush’s brother Marvin was also on the board.

Walker’s investment paid off handsomely, gaining $50,000 in value in a matter of a few days. Given the links to the World Trade Center and the Bush family, the SEC lead should have sparked an intensive FBI investigation. Yet, incredibly, in a mind-boggling example of criminal malfeasance, the FBI concluded that because Walker and his wife had “no ties to terrorism … there was no reason to pursue the investigation.” The FBI did not conduct a single interview. [34]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   12:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

The killer of a US Colonel and Major (and 'two more'?) has telephoned a progress report to the Taliban, who have already put this story on their 'wire'...

The killer is still at large last I heard. What a mess. US advisers are being evacuated from 'safe and secure' buildings.

They never have caught this guy....

kinda like the 9/11 perps...;}

"

As far as the abnormal option trades around 9/11 are concerned, I want to give Max Keiser the last word in order to point out the significance of the story.

Max Keiser: Regardless of who did it, we can know that more than a few had advance warning - the trading in the option market makes that clear.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   12:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: mcgowanjm (#106)

The identity of the suspicious trader is a stunner that should have become prime-time news on every network, world-wide. Kevin Ryan was able to fill in the blanks because, fortunately, the censor left enough details in the document to identify the suspicious party who, as it turns out, was none other than Wirt Walker III, a distant cousin to then-president G W Bush.

Thanks, first time I recall this detail coming out.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-21   15:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: All (#40) (Edited)

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=28794&Disp=2#C2

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   9:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Fred Mertz (#108)

The identity of the suspicious trader is a stunner that should have become prime-time news on every network, world-wide. Kevin Ryan was able to fill in the blanks because, fortunately, the censor left enough details in the document to identify the suspicious party who, as it turns out, was none other than Wirt Walker III, a distant cousin to then-president G W Bush.

Thanks, first time I recall this detail coming out.

That's because it is.

I've been waiting on an article like the above since 9/11.

As a trader there is no such thing as an anonymous trade.

The whole article's an eye opener. No wonder the FBI is trying to fire him, hurt him.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   9:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: A K A Stone, All (#110)

“It is extraordinarily rare for climate locations with 100+ year-long periods of records to break records day after day after day,” the local office of the National Weather Service said in a statement Sunday morning, following a Saint Patrick’s Day that shattered 141 years of records.

And the Windy City is not alone. In International Falls, Minn., which threatened suit when a Colorado city tried to steal its “Nation’s Icebox” moniker, the mercury went to 77 degrees on Saturday — which was 42 degrees above average, and 22 degrees above the old record. It’s possible, according to weather historian Christopher Burt, that no station with a century of weather data has ever broken a mark by that much.

Here’s how Jeff Masters, founder of the website WeatherUnderground and probably the internet’s most widely read meteorologist, put it from his Michigan base:

“As I stepped out of my front door into the pre-dawn darkness from my home I braced myself for the cold shock of a mid-March morning. It didn’t come. A warm, murky atmosphere, with temperatures in the upper fifties — 30 degrees above normal –greeted me instead. Continuous flashes of heat lightning lit up the horizon, as the atmosphere crackled with the energy of distant thunderstorms.

I looked up at the hazy stars above me, flashing in and out of sight as lightning lit up the sky, and thought, this is not the atmosphere I grew up with.”

grist.org/election-2012/a...llinois-no-not-the-polls/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   9:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: All (#111)

The situation in Mali was raised during consultations at the U.N. Security Council on Wednesday, British U.N. Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant said, adding that Council members appealed for calm and “respect for the constitutional order”.

Toure, in power since 2002, has said he is planning after April elections to hand over the reins of a country known for its gold, cotton and a once-flourishing desert tourist industry now undermined by a spate of hostage-takings by al Qaeda allies.

The former paratroop commander overthrew a dictatorship in a 1991 coup and relinquished power a year later before returning to office via the ballot box.

A military source said a trigger for Wednesday’s events was a visit by the defence minister to a barracks in the town of Kati about 20 km (13 miles) north of Bamako.

www.euronews.com/newswire...ttack-palace-in-coup-bid/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   10:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: All (#112)

www.dallasgasprices.com/

$3.69 and you have to do a little hunting....;}

Unhappy public not sure who to blame for high gas - Boston.com www.boston.com/.../unhapp..._sure_who_to_blame_for_...

1 hour ago – A Gallup poll this month found 85 percent of U.S. adults believe the president and Congress "should take immediate actions to try to control the rising price of gas." An Associated Press-GfK poll last month showed 71 percent believe gas ... In truth, there is not a lot the president and Congress can do in the ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   10:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: All (#113)

Fukushima/Japan

* Report: Plutonium ratio 200 times higher than gov't claims, professor surprised …

* Reactor No. 2 temperature near 80°C -- Up almost 20°C in a week (CHART)

* Asahi: Japan schools required to "promote the use of nuclear power" -- Not allow…

* Fukushima hit by M5.0, M4.8, and M4.6 in last few hours -- Two at nearly identic…

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   10:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Fred Mertz, All (#114)

Drug lords targeted by Fast and Furious were FBI informants Federal agents released alleged gun trafficker Manuel Fabian Celis-Acosta to help them find two Mexican drug lords. But the two were secret FBI informants, emails show.

Looking forward to more fast &furious ATF/ICE handiwork...;}

And BTW, we never did hear anymore about that gun fight in LA's ICE Buraeu....;}

"By Richard A. Serrano, Washington Bureau

March 21, 2012, 5:39 p.m. Reporting from Washington— When the ATF made alleged gun trafficker Manuel Fabian Celis-Acosta its primary target in the ill-fated Fast and Furious investigation, it hoped he would lead the agency to two associates who were Mexican drug cartel members. The ATF even questioned and released him knowing that he was wanted by the Drug Enforcement Administration.

But those two drug lords were secretly serving as informants for the FBI along the Southwest border, newly obtained internal emails show.

www.latimes.com/news/nati...-20120322,0,3334424.story

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   10:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: mcgowanjm (#115)

But those two drug lords were secretly serving as informants for the FBI along the Southwest border, newly obtained internal emails show.

Holy guacamole!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-22   11:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: mcgowanjm (#111)

“It is extraordinarily rare for climate locations with 100+ year-long periods of records to break records day after day after day,”

I'm loving this warm weather. Good for the crops. I may put my garden out a month early this year.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   7:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Good Morning, A K A

#7. To: Skip Intro (#6)

There is no such thing as climate change; evolution is a lie; Obama is a Kenyan Marxist who took 2.5 years to forge his long form birth certificate; gunning down an unarmed black man is a Constitutional Right; never-ending war is good.

All of the above has been brought to you courtesy of the Republican Party, and they're just getting started.

In a nutshell...

So 20 years from now we'll find that all these Republican debates were secretly funded by the Obama campaign, code-named "Give them enough rope".

Robin posted on 2012-03-22 16:21:53 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   9:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: All (#118)

And it was even funnier when those same working and middle class Americans were asked to fork over $700 billion of their tax money to save the very same financial institutions, including Goldman Sachs, from their own bad acts.

And goddam if isn't just hysterical that NO ONE from Goldman Sachs has been prosecuted for all of this rampant fraud and that they continued to receive millions of dollars in bonuses even after the taxpayer bailouts.

I'm sure the 46 million people on food stamps, the numerous college graduates with six-figure student loan debts who can't find a decent job, the retirees whose pensions are being gutted, the underwater homeowners and the increasingly desperate wage earners whose 401K accounts have been bouncing up and down like a yo-yo are laughing their asses off right along with you.-billhicksisdead

Capitalism, he said, "has conjured up such gigantic means of production and of exchange, that it is like the sorcerer who is no longer able to control the powers of the nether world whom he has called up by his spells".-Karl the Man Marx

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   9:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: All (#119)

As Spain follows Greece (but not any of that 'austerity' shite, muchas gracias...;}

"‘Spain is already in as bad a shape as Greece. And it hasn’t begun any significant austerity measures yet. Having seen what austerity has done to Greece (Greek GDP shrank 6.8% in 2011 AFTER Greece received bailouts equal to 57% of its GDP), Spain is much less likely to opt for the bailout/ austerity measure program.The significance of this is HUGE. ..."

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   9:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: All (#120)

And Spain has nothing on us. Our soon to be un employed students with 5 figure debt weights strapped to their backs, to the tune of $1 Trillion.....;}

"According to the Bank of International Settlements worldwide exposure to Spain is north of $1 TRILLION with Great Britain on the hook for $51 billion, the US on the hook for $187 billion, France on the hook for $224 billion and Germany on the hook for a whopping $244 billion…’ (ZH)

Yesterday, I posted about Berlin’s exit preparations.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   9:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: All (#121)

Hey! I've got an idea!

Let's pretend that Israel's not our colony and let them help us commit suicide...

Then it won't really be our fault that our Empire went tit's up...;}

"“As far as I am concerned, I do not harbor the slightest doubt that the United States is about to commit, and lead the world toward, the greatest error in its history,” he added.Castro said Washington is wrong to think that Iranians in the country’s Armed Forces, who are known for their religious principles and fighting traditions, will surrender to the US without shooting a bullet." --

Fidel El Hombre Castro.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   9:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: mcgowanjm, *Ron Paul for President* (#121)

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

Geeze, even the commie propaganda has been outsourced to foreign nations.

Can't you find an American Marxist site?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-03-23   9:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: A K A Stone (#117)

I'm loving this warm weather. Good for the crops. I may put my garden out a month early this year.

Yep. Climate change will feel good in the winter.

Like Phoenix....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: hondo68 (#123)

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

Geeze, even the commie propaganda has been outsourced to foreign nations.

Can't you find an American Marxist site?

You need to read him.

He's a Tory apologist.

Would bow before the queen if she deigned to recognize him...

that sorta bloke.

And a commie site made in the USSA would be Forbes.

Cause the Commies in the USSA are the Top 1%. The Bottom 99% get the Free Markets....;}

Soon you can pretend you live in India....

'That’s why in a nation of 1.2 billion, India’s 100 richest people own assets equivalent to one-fourth of the GDP...'

The Waltons own more than the Bottom 100 million Amerikans.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#125)

'That’s why in a nation of 1.2 billion, India’s 100 richest people own assets equivalent to one-fourth of the GDP...'

The Waltons own more than the Bottom 100 million Amerikans.

That's because you have people like Stone putting their local businesses out of business for a 5% discount.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-23   10:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: A K A Stone (#17)

What more do you have on this battle?

#

# Syrian rebels outgunned, struggling for supplies - Yahoo! News

http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-reb...g-supplies-205645118.html

2 days ago – Last week, some 200 rebels with light arms in the Syrian hill village of ... outside Syria, said rebels had recently looted weapons caches in .... My video shows captured Israeli weapons and munitions :"Israel Arms Free Syrian ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: All (#127)

So, once again, the spineless European Union (EU) political "leadership" - once again acting like the poodles of choice - gloriously sabotaged what it has always billed as its most ambitious energy project; caved in to US pressure; and ultimately sacrificed its energy independence. And all this from people who never lose an opportunity to decry that Europe is a "gas hostage" to Russia's Gazprom.

As with all things Pipelineistan, there are layers and layers of nuance. Moscow is pulling out all the stops to prevent Iran from eventually joining Nabucco - because its top policy agenda is to extend its stranglehold over the EU's gas supply to 30%. ...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/NC23Ag04.html

IMG[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B0vAUz...2-03-23+at+8.27.08+AM.png

The most prominent but false conclusions on the expanding value of oil are centered on assertions that supply is decreasing dramatically, while demand is increasing dramatically. Neither of these claims is true…

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: All (#128)

Even if Azerbaijan decides to sell its extra gas wealth to Russia, Turkey also wins. Turkey has authorized the underwater passage of the Russian-Italian (Vladimir Putin-Silvio Berlusconi?) South Stream pipeline in its territory in return for even more robust trade and energy ties with Russia.

But most of all Russia wins. South Stream is a go. Gazprom for its part has increased its charm offensive all across Central Asia; this means that the more Gazprom imports gas from them, the less gas will be available for Europe (unless it is sold by Russia ...)

With Putin back in the presidency in May, the strategy that he laid out back in 2000 is graphically paying all kinds of dividends. -pepe escobar

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: All (#129)

The leadership in Azerbaijan,

(currently being wined & dined in the USSA courtesy of AIPAC...;}

for instance, knows very well that Russia is the only player capable of determining what goes on in the Caucasus - and on top of it offers great energy deals. So here's the writing on the wall; Russia under Putin will be even more influential from the Caucasus to Central Asia.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: All (#130)

Still the most pressing question seems to be whether anybody in Brussels will wake up from its masochistic haze, stop the sanction nonsense, and talk energy with Iran.

www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/NC23Ag04.html

No. Not until the USSA Afghan effort collapses....this Summer.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: mcgowanjm (#127)

Thank You for the link.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   10:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: A K A Stone (#132)

You're welcome.

It's not the one I was looking for, which describes Syria capturing a large arms cache yesterday, but it'll do for now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: All (#133)

"Ironically, stock market activity in the Dow has now come under threat from this inflationary trend in oil. Rising energy costs have essentially put a cap on the epic explosion of equities, and many mainstream analysts now lament over this Catch-22. The problem is that these investors and pundits are operating on the assumption that the Dow bull market is legitimate, and that the rally in oil is somehow an extension of a “healthier economy”. This version of reality, I’m afraid, is about as far from the truth as one can stretch…

In the candy coated world of Obamanomics, high priced stocks are a valid signal of economic growth, and oil is rising due to demand which extends from this growth...."

http://www.alt-market.com/articl...e-oil-conundrum-explained

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   11:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: A K A Stone (#117)

I'm loving this warm weather. Good for the crops. I may put my garden out a month early this year.

Speaking of planting corn:

"

In the study, Andrea Tapparo and colleagues explain that seeds coated with so-called neonicotinoid insecticides went into wide use in Europe in the late 1990s. The insecticides are among the most widely used in the world, popular because they kill insects by paralyzing nerves but have lower toxicity for other animals.

Almost immediately, beekeepers observed large die-offs of bees that seemed to coincide with mid-March to May corn planting. Scientists thought this might be due to particles of insecticide made airborne by the pneumatic drilling machines used for planting.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   11:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Fred Mertz, mininggold, lucysmom, A K A Stone (#0)

News for AAPL halted news

Wall Street Journal

1. Apple trading halted, resumes

Fortune‎ - 7 seconds ago By Philip Elmer-DeWitt March 23, 2012: 11:53 AM ET The hearts of Apple (AAPL) traders stopped briefly at 10:57 am Friday when the company's share price, ...

1.

Apple Trade on Bats Triggers Circuit Breaker; Stock Rebounds Bloomberg‎ - 31 minutes ago

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   11:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: All (#136)

Caused by BATS....

per ZH....

The reason for the crash apparently is because BATS stock is ony trading on the BATS exchange, where apparently the APPL halt second before also happened. Pretty much tells us all we need to know about the stability of broken market structure. In other news, the stock, and exchange, have now been renamed BATShit - perhaps the VVIX can trade there next or something... And they wonder why nobody trades this farce of a market any more.

www.zerohedge.com/news/sk...everyone+drops+to+zero%29

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   11:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: mcgowanjm (#137)

I've never owned an apple product. They are inferior.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   12:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: A K A Stone (#138)

Slow day for you Stone?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   13:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: lucysmom (#139)

Slow day for you Stone?

Yes. It is raining today. :(

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   13:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: A K A Stone (#140)

Yeah, it looked like you were trying to stir something up.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   13:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: lucysmom (#141)

By saying Apple sucks. They do. They lock down and cripple their products. That Iphone thing is a PC. Do you think Apple should be able to control the programs on your phone? I don't. I think that is crap.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   13:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: A K A Stone (#142)

That Iphone thing is a PC. Do you think Apple should be able to control the programs on your phone? I don't. I think that is crap.

So don't own one.

I love my IPhone. My Apple hating ex-husband just got an IPhone and is in love with it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   14:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: lucysmom (#143)

I love my IPhone. My Apple hating ex-husband just got an IPhone and is in love with it.

It should be illegal.

That would be like Microsoft saying only microsoft programs can run on their windows operating system.

You shouldn't have to jailbreak your phone.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   14:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: mininggold (#126)

That's because you have people like Stone putting their local businesses out of business for a 5% discount [by shopping at Wally World].

I recently remembered that I received a Wal-Mart gift card for Christmas and it is still sitting in my wallet. I imagine it is of low value - $20 or so bucks - so I'm going to have to break my rule and visit Wally World one of these days when the need arises.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-23   16:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: mcgowanjm (#136)

News for AAPL halted news

I owned AAPL when it was @ $33 a share. Being a genius I sold when it jumped 10 percent in value :(

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-23   16:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: A K A Stone (#144)

You shouldn't have to jailbreak your phone.

I haven't felt the need to do that.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   18:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: lucysmom (#147)

You shouldn't have to jailbreak your phone.

I haven't felt the need to do that.

You do know that limits the phones power don't you. You know having it locked down by Apple. Would you be ok if you could only put a Ford radio in your Ford car?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   19:03:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: A K A Stone (#148)

Would you be ok if you could only put a Ford radio in your Ford car?

If my Ford radio worked as well as my IPhone, why would I want to replace it?

You don't have to buy Apple products.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   19:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: lucysmom (#149)

You don't have to buy Apple products.

Apple is an illegal monopoly. The justice department should go after them like Microsoft.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   19:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: A K A Stone (#150)

Apple is an illegal monopoly.

How is that?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   19:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: lucysmom (#151)

How is that?

They don't allow third party software on their devices without their permission. They also seem to think they still own the Iphone after you purchase it. They are hostile to you modding it. Screw them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   19:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: A K A Stone (#152)

They also seem to think they still own the Iphone after you purchase it.

I many own the phone, however, they own the technology.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   19:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: A K A Stone (#152)

They also seem to think they still own the Iphone after you purchase it.

Are you too young to remember when you couldn't own a phone?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   19:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: lucysmom (#153)

I many own the phone, however, they own the technology.

Actually once you buy it it is yours to do what you choose with it. You own that specific hardware/technology. To think otherwise is to think like a slave.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   19:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: lucysmom (#154)

Are you too young to remember when you couldn't own a phone?

I remember you had to rent them from Ma bell. Which my mom said was owned by the mafia. Or something like that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   19:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: A K A Stone (#0)

From a March 19 Bloomberg report by Laurel Brubaker Calkins and Margaret Cronin Fisk:

BP Plc’s (BP/) Atlantis platform, its second-largest oil producer in the Gulf of Mexico, should be shut down until it’s proven to comply with U.S. safety and environmental laws, a whistle-blower’s lawyer told a judge.

BP misled U.S. offshore regulators to win operating permits for the platform, located about 150 miles (240 kilometers) south of New Orleans, according to the whistle-blower. The facility produced an average of 60,000 barrels of oil daily last year and is capable of producing as much as 200,000 barrels a day, according to data on London-based BP’s website.

http://www.stuarthsmith.com/another-disaster-in-waiting-whistleblower-calls-for-immediate-shutdown-of-bps-second-largest-gulf-oil-platform-2

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: All (#157)

“Atlantis is presently not fit for service under normal engineering standards,” David Perry, a lawyer for Kenneth Abbott, a former BP contractor, said at a hearing today in federal court in Houston. “We ask the court to take action to oversee remediation to make it fit for service.”

It would seem that BP’s “renewed” commitment to safety and our federal government’s commitment to more rigorous oversight – on the heels of the worst oil spill in U.S. history – are being exposed as a fraud. We’re getting a look behind the scenes at another BP operation, and what is being revealed is frightening indeed. The jig appears to be up, again. More from the Bloomberg report:

Perry told [U.S. District Judge Lynn] Hughes there’s a specific pressure-relief valve “that is protecting a 16-inch pipeline” connecting Atlantis to shore and “that is undersized by a factor of 20 to 1.” A failure in that valve “could cause catastrophe at any time,” Perry said.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#150)

You don't have to buy Apple products.

Apple is an illegal monopoly. The justice department should go after them like Microsoft.

Every Corporation moves to monopoly as a natural life cycle.

Then they die.

W/in a decade.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom, All (#159)

bp going down as I type:

"…Abbott, who worked as an engineering documentation supervisor on Atlantis, testified before the U.S. Congress in June 2010 that almost 90 percent of the facility’s design and construction drawings weren’t approved by licensed professional engineers, as required by regulators. BP lied to regulators about its engineering certifications to obtain operating permits for the platform, Abbott’s lawyers said in a March 15 filing.

According to Mr. Abbott, a valve failure on the Atlantis could result in a spill that would “dwarf” the size of the 200-million-gallon Macondo release.

Mr. Perry pointed out in the hearing yesterday that the engineering issues aboard the Atlantis are pervasive and he cited past “well-control lapses.” More from Bloomberg:

Perry said today that a BP “service and operations audit,’ which is under seal in the case, showed that 150 of 500 pressure relief valves on Atlantis never received proper sizing calculations to determine if they were the right size. Some of the valves were “under-sized by very large amounts,” Perry said."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: All (#160) (Edited)

…Atlantis has already experienced multiple well-control lapses, during which subsea well valves opened and closed on their own and platform operators temporarily lost the ability to control some wells, Perry said today. Abbott has accused BP of hiding this information from Interior Department regulators to keep production flowing from Atlantis.

Although the allegations were first leveled in 2009, the same dangerous situation exists today. Nothing has been done to rectify the problems, leading Mr. Abbott to ask Judge Hughes “to move quickly to halt production and appoint a special master to oversee measures to ensure the platform is brought into compliance.”

http://www.stuarthsmith.com/anot...rgest-gulf-oil-platform-2

www.businessweek.com/news...ntis-in-gulf-of-mexico#p2

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: All (#161)

Next Cat 5 in the GOM/South LA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Sunday, March 25, 2012

NEW EVIDENCE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST

Former Vice-President Dick Cheney just received a heart transplant, after waiting two years for a donor.

Posted by Robert Paul Wolff at 5:30 AM

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-25   9:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Good Morning, Viet Nam!!! ;}

"I asked that the multiracial left have more empathy for working class whites, and stop stereotyping them and dismissing their political choices, when we disagree, as merely “racist.”

I got your empathy....takin real good care of it...;}

Monday, March 26, 2012 AccuWeather's Excuse For A Horribly Blown Seasonal Forecast: The Tsunami Did It

" A meteorologist for AccuWeather — the forecasting company that predicted a winter so bad, "people in Chicago are going to want to move" — has a theory for the recent Midwest heat wave: Japanese tsunami debris."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   8:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Fred Mertz, All (#164)

" "The common sense of mankind demands that law shall not stop with the punishment of petty crimes by little people. It must also reach men who possess themselves of great power and make deliberative and concerted use of it to set in motion evils which leave no home in the world untouched."

America's bound by the same standard under fundamental US and international laws. But they're not applied. Mestrovic exposed the "systemic dysfunctions in the army as well as American society." As a result, innocent victims pay for their superiors' crimes.

In violation of international and US law, as well as the Army's own code, brigade commander, Col. Michael Steele, illegally ordered troops to kill every military-aged Iraqi on sight. Disobedience would have brought court-martials and likely imprisonment."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   8:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: All (#165)

See ? Here's the problem with AgitProp.

Making it look 'real' can interfere with the message.

Like the USSA Military had to move it's forces before the Kony tape was released.

And now tha the Kony tape has been ridiculed, it's 'author' thrown in the loony bin...

the USSA military Still has to folloow the script, now looking like a bad Monty Python skit....;}

" “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality, judiciously, as you will, we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors, and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” - Ron Suskind, NYT, Oct 17 2004

African Union launches US-backed force to hunt Kony Reuters, Mar 24 2012

The African Union, backed by the US, has put together a 5,000-strong military force to hunt down fugitive warlord Joseph Kony, whose profile has shot up following a celebrity-backed campaign against him.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   8:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: All (#166)

"Too few people have experienced the divine image as the inner-most possession of their own souls. Christ only meets them from without, never from within the soul; that is why dark paganism still reigns there, a paganism which, now in a form so blatant that it can no longer be denied and now in all too threadbare disguise, is swamping the world of so-called Christian culture. his pagan unconscious, which has also influenced our literature and art, is clearly expressed in dreams long before it becomes apparent in action."

Can you imagine the Agit Prop artists at the CIA trying to make sense of the above? 9D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   8:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Notice how LF has dropped EVERYTHING to concentrate on the uppity minorities?

The Domestic mirrors the foreign:

"Karzai also spoke to Mullah Baran. Baran’s brother was killed in the shooting spree, but he didn’t see the shooting happen. Baran said he told Karzai what his sister-in-law, who was at the scene, had told him.

When GlobalPost asked Baran to speak directly with his sister-in-law, he initially refused.

“You don’t need to talk [with] her,” Baran said. “I did, and I can tell you the story.”

Eventually Baran relented, allowing GlobalPost to interview her by phone.

Massouma, who lives in the neighboring village of Najiban, where 12 people were killed, said she heard helicopters fly overhead as a uniformed soldier entered her home. She said he flashed a “big, white light,” and yelled, “Taliban! Taliban! Taliban!”

Massouma said the soldier shouted “walkie-talkie, walkie-talkie.” The rules of engagement in hostile areas in Afghanistan permit US soldiers to shoot Afghans holding walkie-talkies because they could be Taliban spotters."

You can't make that shit up.....;}

"The whole point of Jesus’s life was not that we should become exactly like him, but that we should become ourselves in the same way he became himself. Jesus is not the great exception but the great example.

—Carl Jung as quoted by Rob Brezsny in Pronoia (via fernsandmoss)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   9:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: All (#168)

The Empire's gonna have to do another False Flag.

Can cheney get out of bed yet?

Is Poppy available?

"Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:31 PM

CDS Quotes On New Greek Bonds On Hold; Last CDS and 1-Year Bond Quote on March 9

New Greek bonds are priced at roughly 22 cents on the dollar. Simply put, the market expects yet another credit event. Yet try buying CDS protection on the new Greek bonds. You can't.

The Financial Times reports Greek yields up as CDS trading put on hold.........

globaleconomicanalysis.bl...conomic+Trend+Analysis%29

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   9:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: All (#40) (Edited)

Greek CDS prices were last quoted on March 9, when a buyer of protection would have had to pay $7.8m up front to insure $10m of debt against default.

Markit, the data provider, said it needed at least three global banks to give it prices for Greek CDS before it could continue to quote them.

Did you catch that? The last quote was $7.8m up front to insure $10m of debt against default. We are talking about a near certain default on the new bonds.

globaleconomicanalysis.bl...conomic+Trend+Analysis%29

I just did a check on Bloomberg. The last quote on a 1-year Greek bond shows the yield is 1,143%. The date of the quote is March 9th, the last date CDS was quoted.

But hey, Greece is saved. Doesn't everyone know?

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   10:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

#

# Retirement at Risk: 3 of 10 Have Less than $1000 Saved nj1015.com/nj-residents-s...r-retirement-audio/Cached

If you haven't started saving for retirement, you're not alone. A study ... Benefit Research Institute finds that a majority of workers have less than $25000 in savings. ... About 30% of these respondents said they have less than $1000 in savings.

So, some back of the napkin math says that

30% of 140 million workers (=47 million) have $1000.

50 million are on food stamps.

That's a 1/3 of the USSA right there. And worse,

that's almost 100 million ADULTS. And that does not account for college students with 41 Trillion in non dischargeable debt. College kids can not get food stamps. We're so fucked.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   10:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: All (#171)

While the criminal SCOTUS thinks it's still got some kind of sway over the system.

See Health Care Oral Arguements not to be publicized....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   10:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: mcgowanjm (#171)

And that does not account for college students with 41 Trillion in non dischargeable debt. College kids can not get food stamps. We're so fucked.

And most will only qualify for a civil service job when they graduate anyway. At the price one has to pay for auto mechanics, plumbers and electricians nowadays it's better to go to trade school.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-26   10:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: mininggold (#173)

At the price one has to pay for auto mechanics, plumbers and electricians nowadays it's better to go to trade school.

I know plumbers are doing very well.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-26   11:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"Everything that Richard Nixon did to me, for which he faced impeachment and prosecution, which led to his resignation, is now legal under the Patriot Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, and the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)." Daniel Ellsberg.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   14:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: lucysmom (#174)

I know plumbers are doing very well.

My second trade after

the GED job got whacked by the Huckster....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   14:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: mcgowanjm, cz82 (#175)

"Everything that Richard Nixon did to me, for which he faced impeachment and prosecution, which led to his resignation, is now legal under the Patriot Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, and the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)." Daniel Ellsberg.

Interesting thouthg. Sounds true.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-26   14:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Debt itself has become the obsession du jour: the problem is not the sufficiency of debt or even its costs but the defective structure within which debt subsidizes profitless waste. We love our waste, it makes us feel human: right now the world’s economies are at the point where debt can just barely stretch to fill the waste gap. We can just barely afford the costs of the debt, provided we put to use every sort of extraordinary tactic to manage them. We add more debt, we borrow our way out of it, we shuffle it around: running faster and faster to remain in one place.

Debts can be managed this way only because the state can always run faster: as long as there is a marginal return somewhere within the debt-y universe the system will continue to lend to itself ever-larger nominal amounts. Unfortunately, the real capital that the debt is supposed to represent diminishes while the claims made against capital increase. The efforts to manage debt by ‘renewing’ it become counterproductive. Adding debt becomes another form of waste with costs that cannot be met.

The only presidential candidate who has vowed to axe the NDAA provisions is Ron Paul. If you support any other candidate, ask why they are supporting the gutting of the Bill of Rights under the Orwellian umbrella of GWOT (global war on terror).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   18:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Robin (#27)

I recall an amusing scene where a suddenly stricken 18th century aristocrat calls out for his lawyer rather than the local leech.

I'm tellin' ya.

Thank god my bleeding ulcer caused by my migraine was fully documented at hospital and that I'd been in hospital for the same before And most importantly that I predicted the migraine that I got in hospital...;}

I knew the procedure.

The Next bleeding ulcer, there will be a lawsuit.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   9:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: A K A Stone (#177)

Sounds true.

IS true.

Once the POTUS declares he has the right to kill anyone at anytime for any reason, it's over.

There's nothing left to talk about.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   9:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: mcgowanjm (#180)

IS true.

Once the POTUS declares he has the right to kill anyone at anytime for any reason, it's over.

There's nothing left to talk about.

Does that mean you think supporters of Obama are evil?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-27   9:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: A K A Stone (#181) (Edited)

Does that mean you think supporters of Obama are evil?

I think this is Planet Hell.

And so everyone's scrambling to get the best deal.

Except for would be Gandhi's who are now shot or put in prison.

The Top 400 are evil.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   9:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: mcgowanjm (#182)

So Obama supporters are good?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-27   9:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: A K A Stone (#183) (Edited)

So Obama supporters are good?

The Banksters?

The Military?

Again, this is Planet Hell.

And the Center of Command is in DC/Tel Aviv.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   9:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: All (#184) (Edited)

73 sieverts per hour detected at Reactor No. 2 — Measured 4 meters from bottom

Published: March 27th, 2012 at 9:19 am ET By ENENews

Fukushima. Coordinates, 37°25′22.7"N 141°01′

DATE and TIME (UTC)

REGION 27-MAR-2012 11:00:43

LAT-ITUDE LONG-ITUDE MAG-NITUDE DEPTH

39.87 142.12 6.0 10.0km NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   9:57:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Critics maintain that the bailout is leading to the creation of many “zombie” banks, which are completely dependent on the ECB for finance and are reluctant to provide credit either to each other or to businesses.

There has been no bail out.

These people are criminals who should be brought to justice. But in the Greece of today, it will not happen”. One final source told me shortly before posting, “The Bank of Greece is naked in this matter. We ask them for the reasons why this has happened, and they claim to have no knowledge of such things. This is ridiculous. This could not have been done without their cooperation. There is nobody now in Greece we can trust”.

The illegally denied default of Greece entered a dramatic new phase this afternoon with the revelation by mainstream Greek public health website Health News that, shortly before midnight on March 8th – the eve of Greece’s psi completion on Friday March 9th – on average 70% of public utility funds in varous large, interest-bearing accounts at the Bank of Greece were raided. These included most of the State’s regional hospital budgets, various universities and (it is alleged) at least one utility company.

The shortfalls came to light late last week and this morning as various hospital purchasing cheques in particular began to bounce. The monies – estimated by one source to total some 1.4 billion euros – appear to have been used to pay off the tiny minority of private sovereign creditors

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

Nothing's been fixed since the Oct 08 bailout.

Debt itself has become the obsession du jour: the problem is not the sufficiency of debt or even its costs but the defective structure within which debt subsidizes profitless waste. We love our waste, it makes us feel human: right now the world’s economies are at the point where debt can just barely stretch to fill the waste gap. We can just barely afford the costs of the debt, provided we put to use every sort of extraordinary tactic to manage them. We add more debt, we borrow our way out of it, we shuffle it around: running faster and faster to remain in one place.

Debts can be managed this way only because the state can always run faster: as long as there is a marginal return somewhere within the debt-y universe the system will continue to lend to itself ever-larger nominal amounts. Unfortunately, the real capital that the debt is supposed to represent diminishes while the claims made against capital increase. The efforts to manage debt by ‘renewing’ it become counterproductive. Adding debt becomes another form of waste with costs that cannot be met.

A decline in nominal price of petroleum is no cure: temporary declines allow price-thwarted demand to rush back into the markets and push up the price. This decline-push dynamic remains in force until the ability of customers to meet the high price price is exhausted, when the credit runs out.

Having emptied our accounts at the gasoline pump, the returns on our non-driving endeavors are insufficient to service the debt needed to drive … or do much else.

What is underway is a margin call against the entire unproductive enterprise.

www.economic-undertow.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   10:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: All (#186)

Law-abiding taxpayers are treated like criminals while the criminal class of financiers and State apparatchiks are free to loot and pillage muppets and taxpayers alike.

It's actually very simple: whatever the state or Federal government does to you, that's legal. Whatever action you take to protect your rights is illegal....

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   10:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: All (#187)

Perhaps the closest analogy for these resurgent warmongers are the economists who failed to predict even the vaguest problems with the sub-prime mortgage market, let alone the global financial crisis.

Yet somehow they still shamelessly populate the airwaves, spouting predictions and judgments, which unfathomably never end with the anchor saying: "Mmm. We're going to interrupt you to hear from a cauliflower, because you've got to think it knows more about this stuff than you."

And so with the creatures of the US military-industrial complex, somehow able to pick themselves up from the what should have been career-ending humiliation and call for more of the same. They clearly possess some bizarre, Weeble-style self-righting mechanism, and at some level I suppose you have to admire the chutzpah.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   10:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Given the lack of success of the American experiment with deregulation, it is beyond belief that the cure for what ails the American economy is going to be more deregulation: "Bill Black on How the Jumpstart Obama’s Bucket Shops Act is Just Another in a Long Series of Fraud-Promoting Legislation" Also: "Bill Black: “The only winning move is not to play”—the insanity of the regulatory race to the bottom"

www.nakedcapitalism.com/2...romoting-legislation.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   8:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: All (#189)

The top three lies about Iran:

1. Iran has a nuclear program.

2. Israel can deliver bombs to Iranian nuclear facilities.

3. An attack on Iran is inevitable.

If you see any of those lies, you are reading Jewish warmongering propaganda.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   8:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: mcgowanjm (#189)

Given the lack of success of the American experiment with deregulation,

The government can take 95 percent of their regulations and shove them up Spike Lees ass.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-28   8:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: mcgowanjm (#190)

The top three lies about Iran:

1. Iran has a nuclear program.

2. Israel can deliver bombs to Iranian nuclear facilities.

3. An attack on Iran is inevitable.

1 and 2 are certainly true. 3 is likely.

No muslim nation deserves nukes.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-28   8:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: All (#190) (Edited)

And what you'll wait long and hard for this from the Zionist/USSA MSM:

"retired History professor Milton Cantor, a very distinguished historian of left-wing political movements in the United States, sent me a copy of a long, thoughtful letter he had sent to Senator Carl Levin. In three tightly written single-spaced pages, Cantor detailed the series of votes Levin had taken in the Senate that in one way or another expanded the autocratic power of the presidency and eroded what have always been thought to be the core rights and protections of constitutional government,

most notably the Great Writ, as the writ of habeas corpus is called. On the same day that I received the letter, I read a blog post [I cannot now recall which of three or four different blogs was its source] that included a very striking graphic illustration of the size of the military budgets of the twenty or so most geared up nations. Not surprisingly [I actually already sort of knew this], the United States spends annually ten times as much on defense as its nearest competitor, China, and all in all about half of all the money spent on the military world-wide.

Something about these two bits of information coalesced in my mind, and I realized that I was seeing a perfect representation of America's hegemonic imperial status in the contemporary world. Overwhelming military dominance abroad is complemented by the establishment of an imperium at home. The government now asserts openly that it has the right to kill anyone in the world it deems a threat to its imperium,

even if that person is a citizen of the United States. The only restraints the state now recognizes on its actions are instrumental -- the opportunity costs of military action, the deleterious effects on the members of the volunteer armed forces.

This is the reality with which we live, and it does not appear that it will change for at least a generation, perhaps longer. To be quite honest, I do not believe there is anything any of us can do to change this reality. robertpaulwolff.blogspot.ca/2012/03/big-picture.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: A K A Stone (#191)

The government can take 95 percent of their regulations and shove them up Spike Lees ass.

Duly noted.

Waiting for what you'll be replacing the Rule of Law with.

Something Jesus like I hope....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: A K A Stone (#192)

No muslim nation deserves nukes.

How about black nations?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: All (#195)

The Israeli operation was facilitated by highly-placed Zionist agents within the US government, military, and intelligence spheres. If Buzzy Krongard is a suspect in the crimes of 9-11, the question that needs to be answered is: Was Krongard acting as an agent for Israeli military intelligence at Alex Brown and the CIA? The evidence indicates that he served as an agent for Israel in both positions. Alvin Bernard Krongard, born 1936, is the son of Raphael Harris Krongard and Rita Keyser Krongard. Both his mother and father were born in Baltimore to Jewish immigrant families from Poland/Russia. His first wife, Patricia Lion, was also Jewish.

While Krongard’s Jewish roots are never mentioned in the various articles about him, his Jewish ethnicity clearly plays the key role in his efforts to support Israeli enterprises in the US. When a high-level person like Krongard conceals his Jewish roots while actively serving the state of Israel it indicates that he is seeking to hide his true identity and loyalty to a foreign state.

For such a person to be the administrative chief of the CIA says a great deal about the degree of Israeli penetration of the US intelligence community.....

Mayo Shattuck stayed on at Alex Brown, but resigned suddenly the day after 9-/1(1). While it is clear that Krongard jumped ship because he knew that the BT Alex Brown merger would soon fail, why did he go to work for the CIA? What we do know is that Krongard had worked closely with computer companies spawned by Israeli military intelligence.

After he joined the CIA as counselor to the director, Krongard soon became engaged in setting up the CIA venture capital firm called In-Q-It (In-Q-Tel) that was supposed to keep the agency abreast of computer technology. How much Israeli software do you think found its way onto the CIA computer network under Buzzy Krongard’s reign? In Oct 1999, the WaPo reported on the genesis of In-Q-Tel:

A lot of people wondered what DCI Tenet had in mind a year and a half ago when he brought in Wall Street heavyweight A B “Buzzy” Krongard to serve as his “counselor.”

9/11 is a prime example of what Indira Singh calls “extreme event risk.” In the months prior to the attack, she was working on a program capable of providing data in real time to prevent these types of events from happening. She had pitched this very idea just one week before 9/11 at In-Q-Tel Headquarters (CIA) in Virginia, giving a final presentation for an ICH (Interoperability Clearinghouse) project code named “Blue Prophet.” Indira explained to CIA why she was supporting ICH in this project.

She told the In-Q-Tel team, “The intelligence and other agencies need this now.” One of the men with CIA looked at Indira with what she describes as the “blackest, coldest look anyone has ever given her.”

They weren’t interested in Blue Prophet’s software for interoperability or risk, but rather the data it would produce because the data would point in the right directions. That data was very predictive, producing quality real-time intelligence. This is one week before 9/11. If In-Q-Tel already had this capability, it’s no wonder they would be wary of someone like Indira – the woman from New York in Risk Management who resided a few minutes’ walk from the Twin Towers.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: All (#196)

You Bums Just Vote For Us

Panetta says polls cannot dictate Afghan war plans.

Does anyone remember Dick Cheney saying, in response to exit polls during the 2006 elections which showed that only 17% of Americans supported the Bush administration's policy on Iraq, that "I don't think any president worth his salt, can afford to make decisions of this magnitude according to the polls...This president does not make policy based on public opinion polls"?

I seem to remember a lot of people who now support the Obama administration's policy in Afghanistan blindly were pretty upset with Cheney's obvious contempt for democracy and the will of the people...

...nah, I must be misremembering.

agonist.org/steve_hynd/20...you_bums_just_vote_for_us

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: All (#197)

By Peter Hart – FAIR – 03/27/2012

The big New York Times story on the Afghan War today (3/27/12) focuses on public opinion in the United States, which is now dramatically anti-war: 69 percent think we shouldn’t be there.

An interesting point argument is raised later in the piece, when two sources make the argument that the war wouldn’t be so unpopular if Barack Obama would just do a better job of selling it:

alethonews.wordpress.com/...eds-a-better-sales-pitch/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: All (#198)

Indira showed up with what she called, “A major Ground Zero attitude.” She was supposed to be on the 106th floor of the WTC on 9/11 but instead responded as a civilian EMT that morning. This was very personal for her. Charlie understood and nevertheless made the arrangements for a debriefing at the Secret Service’s National Threat Assessment Center (NTAC) in April 2003.

During the debriefing Indira was asked by a member of the Secret Service, “Is Ptech PROMIS?”

“I already knew what had happened to Danny Casolaro, and they were asking me if I had copies of Ptech,” Indira told FTW.

Danny Casolaro was the investigative journalist mysteriously “suicided” in a West Virginia hotel room while investigating the theft of PROMIS software. Casolaro’s investigation had uncovered a shadowy network he called “the Octopus” that seemed to have its hands in everything from drug trafficking and money laundering, all the way up to political assassinations and coups d’etat. When Casolaro’s body was discovered, his arms were violently slashed and all the documents he traveled with were missing. He had told friends and relatives if anything happened to him they shouldn’t believe it was by accident.

Being asked such a loaded question, she responded with her Ground Zero attitude saying:

“You have a copy of the software, why don’t you tell me? This is not about the software guys, ok – was it a PROMIS? It was a place you could hide a PROMIS, a place you can drop a PROMIS.”

Indira told FTW, “I was going to use Ptech software for risk surveillance at JP Morgan – Duh!”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: mcgowanjm (#199)

During the debriefing Indira was asked by a member of the Secret Service, “Is Ptech PROMIS?”

I remember the Danny Casolaro case vaguely. This Indira and Kronard are new characters to me.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-28   10:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: All (#3) (Edited)

Wonder how many Chinooks we have left in the Afghans.

report of Chinook shot down Mar 26. Helmand Province 30 US dead.

With unexplained action in Uruzgan.

BTW, to the 20 or so USans doing Zargawat, once Sgt Bales is said to be the Only killer, you become expendible....just sayin'....;}

How will the U.S.-British enterprise recover from the latest in a series of insults to the Afghan people?

The people of the U.S. and Great Britain get the message. In a recent poll, 61% of citizens want U.S. troops home immediately. Only 19% oppose that decisive action. In Great Britain, 75% oppose the Afghan war effort.

With negligible public support and tottering economies, how can Obama and Cameron conceive, even for a moment, that withdrawal will last through the 2014 timeline?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Fred Mertz (#200)

Indira Singh was/is one of those who were 'out of place' on 9/11.

She was supposed to be somewhere high up in the WTC's, but was also a paramedic who went to the Aid Station.

And did software/IT support for JPMorgan.

And assuming you mean 'Krongard' instead of 'Kronard'.

Buzzy Krongard was/is CIA/alex Brown/Deutsche Bank on 9/11. Said $2 million was made on a particular (airline, I think) short that was sitting unclaimed in an account.

There's no nsuch thing as an anonimous trade.

Never did hear what happened to that $$$....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: All (#202)

Mr Squarcini has said Merah was never an informer for any French security agency.

Le Canard Enchaîné newspaper reported yesterday that Merah and his family were bugged by the DCRI from March to November last year. The bugging ended abruptly, Le Canard said, at about the time of the future killer's meeting with the DCRI agent in November. However, the body which authorises telephone surveillance said later that the bugging began in November and was dropped in February because it revealed nothing important."

A list that puts this issue completely to bed:

1. When under attack, the patsy attempts to reach out for help from his intelligence handler (with plenty of government lies claiming they had no connection in the patsy, no knowledge of him, and no reason to place him on any list of possible dangers).

1a)My Edit: Patsy always has less than a high school education

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: All (#203) (Edited)

2 # A patsy assassinated when he could have been taken alive (and then defended himself by stating his mission was authorized by the French government)

3 # A 'radical Islamist terrorist' with no interest in religion.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: All (#204)

4 # # The first killer was obviously a different person (based on witness descriptions), a fact ignored by the media and government.

5# Sent to Israel, of all places, using cover provided by a French intelligence agency (the Jewish targets seem to be part of a Zionist plan to scare French Jews to flee to Israel).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: All (#205) (Edited)

6 # An inexplicable cache of weapons.

7 # Travels to Afghanistan and Pakistan, suspected of training at 'al-Qaeda' training camps, picked up by the Americans, and just sent home?

No, this was an authorized French intelligence operation - coordinated with the American and Israeli governments - to assist in Sarko's reelection (and prod French Jews into helping with the 'demographic problem' in Israel). This is so clear it is not worthy of discussion.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: All (#206) (Edited)

Anyone noticing USSA Media's complete lack of interest in....

"When Murdoch was setting up his BSKYB cable network in England, he had some serious competition. ITV had a digital service called ITV Digital. The British broadcaster was prepared to go head to head with Murdoch's network. As the services rolled out, ITV Digital became subject to furious hacker attacks. The hackers broke the ITV encryption code and distributed it widely allowing so many people to get free ITV service, the venture failed, largely due to the piracy of its service, and Murdoch had a clean road to mega profits with BSKYB...."

8D

"Ray Adams is a name you will hear more frequently as the latest and perhaps most fatal Murdoch - News Corp. scandal emerges."

http://agonist.org/michael_colli...e_lastest_murdoch_scandal

If you hear about Ray Adams turning and cooperating with the police, that's the end of Murdoch and a heavy blow to News Corp. He's not the entire case but he could make it happen in a hurry if he makes a deal.

www.themoneyparty.org/main/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: All (#207)

Political Washington is Wall Street's best friend. Whatever crooked bankers want they get. Their business model features grand theft. Wealth’s amassed through fraudulent double-dealing.

See the <10% Approval Bi-partisan Congress JOBS (TASBEM;) Bill

for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: All (#208)

Former bank regulator/financial fraud expert Bill Black explained what's at stake in his article headlined, " ‘The only winning move is not to play’ - the insanity of the regulatory race to the bottom.”

He called the imminent JOBS Act passage reminiscent of the "worst anti-regulatory travesties in the financial sphere (that) had broad, bipartisan support." Don't they all, especially in recent decades.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: All (#209) (Edited)

Anti-Gay activists looking for glamorous, unintelligent celebrities to advance their cause

Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 4:49pm by Aaron McQuade, GLAAD's Director of News and Field Media

www.glaad.org/blog/anti-g...es-to-advance-their-cause

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   9:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: All (#210) (Edited)

If you had told people a year ago that the most powerful man in mainstream media (MSM) (Rupert Murdoch;) would be called upon to resign in disgrace from News Corp, the $40 billion media conglomerate, they would have laughed.

From Wikipedia: "Edward Louis Bernays (1891 – 1995) is considered one of the fathers of the field of public relations along with Ivy Lee. Combining the ideas of Gustave Le Bon and Wilfred Trotter on crowd psychology with the psychoanalytical ideas of his uncle, Sigmund Freud, Bernays was one of the first to attempt to manipulate public opinion using the psychology of the subconscious.

He felt this manipulation was necessary in society, which he regarded as irrational and dangerous as a result of the 'herd instinct' that Trotter had described. Adam Curtis's award-winning 2002 documentary for the BBC, The Century of the Self, pinpoints Bernays as the originator of modern public relations. ..........................

We have voluntarily agreed to let an invisible government sift the data and high-spot the outstanding issue so that our field of choice shall be narrowed to practical proportions. From our leaders and the media they use to reach the public, we accept the evidence and the demarcation of issues bearing upon public question; from some ethical teacher, be it a minister, a favorite essayist, or merely prevailing opinion, we accept a standardized code of social conduct to which we conform most of the time"

And if this invisible government should militate against our best interests, who then will report on that?

The media and their paid psychologists can be counted on to call such speculation "conspiracy theory",

of course, with lots of theories about why people believe this.

There even is a book called The Influencing Machine by NPR media columnist Brooke Gladstone www.amazon.com/Influencin...stone-Media/dp/0393077799 which acknowledges "the manipulations of contemporary journalism" but denies the power it has to influence our psychology.

By using as its title a 1919 paper on Schizophrenia, where sufferers believe that external forces work to shape our perceptions, it, funnily enough, denies what Edward Bernays himself wrote in his 1928 paper "Propaganda". Keep in mind that Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels acknowledged he learned his techniques from Bernays "American" techniques and you get where I am coming from.

The media operates through the energy of the throat chakra, the mind. I sometimes think it exists only to distract us so that instead of working for real change we focus on visual distractions and mindless entertainment.

But, that's ok. The power of the media to shape us is now coming to an end, as we look at forming smaller, more coherent societies and groupings.

This is how I started the article. But now, as I look at the bloated evil being whose actions led to the murder and suffering of so many millions of people, then I know what I really want to say to all the people like him.

No matter how rich you are, or how powerful, or, how long you got away with it. Sooner or later, your karma will catch up with you......;}

manfromatlan.blogspot.com/2012/03/media-and-karma.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   9:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: All (#211)

March 28, 2012 by Common Dreams Obama Admin Takes Steps Towards More Oil Drilling Shell's oil spill plan for Beaufort Sea drilling approved, seismic surveys for oil off east coast get OK - Common Dreams staff

The Obama administration has taken steps towards increased oil drilling today in Alaska and off the east coat. It approved Shell's oil spill response plan for the Arctic waters of the Beaufort Sea, a move slammed by environmental groups who warn of a likely environmental catastophe if Shell is given its final permits. The administration also allowed today seismic exploratory surveys for oil off the coast of Virginia in the Atlantic Ocean.

“All signs point to environmental disaster if an oil spill were to occur in the harsh Arctic waters — it’s just absurd that Shell’s unproven response plan got the green light,” says Miyoko Sakashita of the Center for Biological Diversity. (photo: Chris Eichler via 350.org) Shell's oil spill plan suggests little likelihood of a blowout and calls for a containment device like the one used in the Deepwater Horizon blowout to be clamped onto the well in the event that Shell's built-in blowout preventer failed.

"If Shell goes there to drill, they will kill the Arctic Ocean along the way—we must fight and stop them," says Subhankar Banerjee, founder of ClimateStoryTellers.org.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   9:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: All (#212) (Edited)

March 29, 2012 07:19 EDT CHK theflyonthewall.com: U.S. shale oil drillers told to control natural gas burn, Reuters reports Investors representing $500B in assets want energy companies in the shale oil areas of North Dakota and other states to release the amount of natural gas they burn, considered a a wasteful financial risk, reports Reuters.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   10:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: All (#213)

The Oil Age | Peak Oil | LATOC • Total Rowan Viking Rig Out of Control

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"The well in question had caused Total some problems for some considerable time ... a ... Finding a source of ignition, the Rowan viking will be doing a .... 307 posts 56 months [report] [news] Yesterday (11:12) quote quote all ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   10:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: All (#214)

Totalfinaelf Rowan Viking still out of control.

Flare still burning.

Gas still looking for ignition source.

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Look for the death of the Beaufort Sea now as Shell, as bad or worse than Total, gets ready to set up shop.

March 28, 2012 by Common Dreams Obama Admin Takes Steps Towards More Oil Drilling Shell's oil spill plan for Beaufort Sea drilling approved, seismic surveys for oil off east coast get OK - Common Dreams staff

The Obama administration has taken steps towards increased oil drilling today in Alaska and off the east coat. It approved Shell's oil spill response plan for the Arctic waters of the Beaufort Sea, a move slammed by environmental groups who warn of a likely environmental catastophe if Shell is given its final permits. The administration also allowed today seismic exploratory surveys for oil off the coast of Virginia in the Atlantic Ocean.

“All signs point to environmental disaster if an oil spill were to occur in the harsh Arctic waters — it’s just absurd that Shell’s unproven response plan got the green light,” says Miyoko Sakashita of the Center for Biological Diversity. (photo: Chris Eichler via 350.org) Shell's oil spill plan suggests little likelihood of a blowout and calls for a containment device like the one used in the Deepwater Horizon blowout to be clamped onto the well in the event that Shell's built-in blowout preventer failed.

"If Shell goes there to drill, they will kill the Arctic Ocean along the way—we must fight and stop them," says Subhankar Banerjee, founder of ClimateStoryTellers.org.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   10:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: mcgowanjm (#213)

What's the latest skinny on Jon Corzine?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-29   10:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Thursday, 06 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:44 HELMAND, Mar. 29 – Heavy fighting broke out early this morning in Kofki area of Babaji region, Lashkargah when Mujahideen engaged US invaders that landed by helicopters for an operation.

It is said that the fighting is still ongoing at the moment (late afternoon time), causing the enemy heavy losses. More details will be updated later.

shahamat-english.com/inde...rea&catid=1:news&Itemid=2

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   21:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: Fred Mertz (#216)

What's the latest skinny on Jon Corzine?

They've got an e-mail directing funds transfer directly out of customer accts last trading day before BK with JC's name on it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   21:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: All (#217) (Edited)

Thursday, 06 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:44 HELMAND, Mar. 29 – Heavy fighting broke out early this morning in Kofki area of Babaji region, Lashkargah when Mujahideen engaged US invaders that landed by helicopters for an operation.

It is said that the fighting is still ongoing at the moment (late afternoon time), causing the enemy heavy losses. More details will be updated later.

shahamat-english.com/inde...rea&catid=1:news&Itemid=2

20 killed in 'intense' firefight after NATO convoy is ambushed in Afghan mountains By msnbc.com news services and NBC News

KABUL, Afghanistan -- Insurgents ambushed a NATO coalition supply convoy in a mountainous area of western Afghanistan, sparking a three-hour firefight in which an Afghan soldier, five security guards and at least 14 attackers were killed, Afghan officials said Thursday.-msnbc

Same battle where the Afghans shot down the Chinook killing 30 on board.

8 killed including commander, two wounded in Ghazni battle Zabihullah Mujahid

Thursday, 06 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:56

GHAZNI, Mar. 29 – A news report states that on Thursday Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate carried out a surprise attack on the enemy combat convoy that triggered a one-hour long fighting in Muqur district of Afghanistan’s Ghazni province in which 8 puppets including their commander were killed and two more wounded with two of the enemy vehicles destroyed. The area come under heavy airstrikes by the US invaders shortly afterwards.

This makes more sense.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   21:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: All (#219)

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10915471-20-killed-in-intense-firefight-after-nato-convoy-is-ambushed-in-afghan-mountains

""The fighting was intense and we sent in extra forces," Najibi said."

This makes no sense.

"Sayed Abdul Wahid, an official of the Arya security company, said his workers who were fighting with AK-47s were overpowered by militants using heavy weapons, including rocket-propelled grenades and machine guns."

If the convoy was overpowered, who sent in extra forces. And what are those forces doing now.

Notice how all of these battles are always past tense?....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   21:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: All (#220)

The skeptics have decided that evidence isn't really evidence -- it's a grand conspiracy of thousands to fool the public -- so no amount of evidence will matter. Nevertheless, this is worth noting:

Global Warming Close to Becoming Irreversible, by Nina Chestney, Scientific American: The world is close to reaching tipping points that will make it irreversibly hotter ... scientists warned on Monday. ... As emissions grow,... the world is close to reaching thresholds beyond which the effects on the global climate will be irreversible ...

For ice sheets - huge refrigerators that slow down the warming of the planet - the tipping point has probably already been passed...

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   21:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: mcgowanjm (#219)

GHAZNI, Mar. 29 – A news report states that on Thursday Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate carried out a surprise attack on the enemy combat convoy that triggered a one-hour long fighting in Muqur district of Afghanistan’s Ghazni province in which 8 puppets including their commander were killed and two more wounded with two of the enemy vehicles destroyed. The area come under heavy airstrikes by the US invaders shortly afterwards.

This makes more sense.

You really like to publish enemy propaganda don't you? You do realize these same enemy "news sources" report Americans dying in droves each day?

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   0:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: mcgowanjm (#221)

For ice sheets - huge refrigerators that slow down the warming of the planet - the tipping point has probably already been passed...

Thanks high priest Algore for the update. Your posts are scams.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   0:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: A K A Stone (#0)

So many environmentalists just refuse to get it into their heads that humanity has painted itself into the tightest of corners. Beginning in earnest about a century ago, we tapped into the greatest energy resource nature could have possibly bestowed upon us. Instead of wisely managing that very nonrenewable resource, we exploited it as quickly as we could and allowed our population to expand in a very short time to well beyond what the planet can possibly sustain when that resource runs out, even if the resulting environmental damage from burning that resource wasn't also a hugely negative factor.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: redleghunterThanks high priest Algore for the update. Your posts are scams. (#223)

Thanks high priest Algore for the update. Your posts are scams.

AlGore fucked up when he didn't confront Scalia January 2001...;}

And I donn't think scamming means what you think it means...;}

Arctic Ice Free Summer 2013.

Chicago Low Temps break Old high Temps records.

And we haven't even gotten to the 90's pollution rates yet.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:11:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: redleghunter (#222)

You really like to publish enemy propaganda don't you?

The Afghans have never done anything to me.

So why are they the enemy?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: redleghunter (#222) (Edited)

You do realize these same enemy "news sources" report Americans dying in droves each day?

And what makes you think that Americans are not dying in the afghans everyday?

You actually believe Bales is not a patsy?

Antiwar Forum

It is interesting to note just how well this imperialism thing has worked for the American people. At the end of last year the U.S. was kicked out of Iraq after spending some trillions of dollars and producing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Americans. Al-Qaeda, which was not present in Iraq when the U.S. arrived, has lately been responsible for bomb attacks that have killed hundreds of Iraqis, mostly civilians. As a result of the ham-handed American intervention, Iraq’s closest friend now is not the U.S. It is Iran.

Appalled by the excesses of the U.S. military, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has followed suit, initially demanding that the U.S. restrict its soldiers to their bases, a move that would mean that the American presence in Afghanistan could well end in short order after the loss of another trillion dollars and the deaths of some tens of thousands of coalition soldiers and Afghan civilians.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: mcgowanjm (#224)

Instead of wisely managing that very nonrenewable resource,

But it is renewable. It isn't from fossils. Oil wells that were "empty" regularly fill back up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   9:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: A K A Stone (#228)

regularly fill back up.

It's the word 'regularly'.

The Sun orbits the Milky Way regularly.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: All (#229)

think for a moment how any restaurant could offer a double cheeseburger for only $1.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: All (#230)

How can a great nation with vast intelligence and diplomatic resources be so tone deaf and absolutely clueless?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: mcgowanjm (#230)

think for a moment how any restaurant could offer a double cheeseburger for only $1.

Pink slime is what? 100 percent beef.

Actually double cheeseburgers are now $1.29.

McDonalds is doing it and has record profits.

Did you know they pay less for their beef then we do at the supermarket?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   9:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: mcgowanjm (#231)

How can a great nation with vast intelligence and diplomatic resources be so tone deaf and absolutely clueless?

Clueless to what? Abortion?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   9:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: All (#231)

markww March 30, 2012 at 9:53 am Log in to Reply

Does not sound like a COLD SHUT DOWN ANYWHERE AT FUKUSHIMA how many more LIARS are going to step up to the plate and lie cheat and steal for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   10:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: A K A Stone (#232)

$1.29 (too bad you know the actual price;).

There is Zero way to pay $1 lb Feeder cattle.

To pay $6.31 per bu wheat.

To pay whatever cheese costs.

Then the overhead.

And sell it for $1.29 and make $$$....unless there's 'filler' and chemicals and anti biotics and obese people on the other end.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   10:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: A K A Stone (#232) (Edited)

McDonalds is doing it and has record profits.

Did you know they pay less for their beef then we do at the supermarket?

O yeah. I know exactly how fast the Amazon is disappearing.

I know exactly what cost cattle do to the planet and I know that McDee's is nothing but a Commodities amalgamator....Read Fast Food Nation for ex.

Ex..When you get Seasonal McRibs? It's because pork bellies have dropped to X point.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   10:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: A K A Stone (#232) (Edited)

Pink slime is what? 100 percent beef.

And you're not going to defend pink slime are you?

Floor sweepings doused with Ammonia?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   10:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: All (#237)

The point is, if all houses burned down at some point, there would be no fire insurance, and if all houses flooded at some point, there would be no flood insurance. But everyone dies, and yet there is health insurance. How is that?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   10:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#239. To: mcgowanjm (#238)

Timing is everything.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-30   10:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#240. To: mcgowanjm (#237)

And you're not going to defend pink slime are you?

Floor sweepings doused with Ammonia?

Oh come on it... it's finely ground gristle, hide and unmentionable parts. What's not to like? ;)

And ammonia has been the meat packers best friend for quite some time. It saves money by cutting down on the use of a janitorial service.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   10:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: mininggold (#240)

And ammonia has been the meat packers best friend for quite some time. It saves money by cutting down on the use of a janitorial service.

Vegan is looking pretty good.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-30   11:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#242. To: mcgowanjm (#235) (Edited)

And sell it for $1.29 and make $$$....unless there's 'filler' and chemicals and anti biotics and obese people on the other end.

Every commercial non organic steer is fed Corid or Bovatec from the day it can eat on it's own to two weeks before it's slaughtered. Most cow feed comes with it already mixed.

Ear tags are now being used as a way to slow deliver wormers, systemic insecticides...you name it. And most steers receive estrogen supplements for added weight gain. I think that can be delivered via ear tag too.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   11:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#243. To: lucysmom (#241)

Vegan is looking pretty good.

Ammonia is used on fruit and veggies too, especially those that are coated like apples. Home grown, raised and picked seems to be the only way to get away from it.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   11:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#244. To: mininggold (#243)

Is that true for organic as well?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-30   11:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#245. To: lucysmom (#244) (Edited)

Is that true for organic as well?

Organic beef is supposed to be life long free of any chemical additives even wormers. Organic farmers use a combination of pasture rotation and organic feeds, and often diatomaceous earth and some herbal products to rid their animals of worms and insects.

If for any reason a steer needs antibiotics not of the homeopathic variety, that steer is usualy tagged and separated, or sold.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   12:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: mininggold (#242) (Edited)

estrogen supplements for added weight gain.

What was that story?

Animals are getting fatter, too?

Here it is:

Animals and 6-Month-Old Infants Are Getting Fatter … Which Mean ... www.zerohedge.com › Blogs › George Washington's blogCached

Mar 19, 2012 – People and animals get fat because of excessive consumption of ..... like making the girls develop early, and estrogen pushes toward plump. Went with '70% of Americans obese by 2025'.

Obesity Information - American Heart Association www.heart.org/.../Obesity...CM_307908_Articl...Cached

May 5, 2011 – Between 60 and 70% of Americans are either overweight or obese. Being obese puts you at a higher risk for health problems such as heart ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   12:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: All (#246)

And this is sick:

"Motorists Can Avenge $4 Gas by Owning Oil Stocks"

So if you're wealthy, why are you worried about $4 gas anyway?

And the avg 'motorist' can just buy these oil stocks where?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   12:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: mcgowanjm (#246)

www.fda.gov/downloads/Ani...ugSummaries/ucm116141.pdf

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   13:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: mcgowanjm (#246)

Animals and 6-Month-Old Infants Are Getting Fatter …

Just this morning I heard a doctor on the radio say that they've found an average of 200 industrial chemicals in umbilical cord blood tested. So much for "real" conservatives who love little babies and industrial chemicals too.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-30   14:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   14:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: All (#250)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   14:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: mininggold (#248)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   14:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   15:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: mcgowanjm (#247)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   16:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: mcgowanjm (#237)

And you're not going to defend pink slime are you?

Is it worse the hot dogs or bologna? Has anyone ever died from eating it? If we stop using it here could it help feed the third world? Is it more or less nutritious then regular beef?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   19:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: A K A Stone (#255)

Is it worse the hot dogs or bologna? Has anyone ever died from eating it? If we stop using it here could it help feed the third world? Is it more or less nutritious then regular beef?

Stone, you are making too much sense here for him to possibly comprehend.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-30   19:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: jwpegler (#256)

Stone, you are making too much sense here for him to possibly comprehend.

I think the stuff looks gross personally. I'd rather just have the good cuts. Maybe they should just label it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   19:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: A K A Stone (#255)

Is it worse the hot dogs or bologna? Has anyone ever died from eating it? If we stop using it here could it help feed the third world? Is it more or less nutritious then regular beef?

I think what most object to is the lack of truth in advertising. Ground round or chuck is certainly not chopped lips, dicks and eyeballs.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   19:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: mininggold (#258)

is certainly not chopped lips, dicks and eyeballs.

That is the funniest thing I have ever seen you write.

It sounds like something a man would write, not a woman.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   19:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: All (#220)

Notice the use of the word "insurance."

cluborlov.blogspot.com/

Insurance means there's a pay out.

But we have no idea what the pay out's going to be.

"Now, health insurance is a strange proposition to start with, because everyone dies, and nobody dies healthy, so most people require medical treatment at some point. (A few people spontaneously combust, I suppose. They are still none too healthy during the few seconds before they die, but that's not long enough for them to avail themselves of medical attention. But that's a very rare case.) The point is, if all houses burned down at some point, there would be no fire insurance, and if all houses flooded at some point, there would be no flood insurance. But everyone dies, and yet there is health insurance. How is that?"

"I wanted to know the adjusted price beforehand, but I was told that they do not give out this information. The adjustments are generated by an inscrutable computer program, which determines the numbers on the spur of the moment based on a set of formulas. Now, normally I don't do business with companies that refuse to quote a price before I place the order. That's where the tax penalty is most helpful to them: it leaves me no choice but do business with, and get robbed by, this company."

We're going top get Single Payer Medicare/VA. The question is how bad the USSA's Empire's doin' when it happens.

Same with Student Loans....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: A K A Stone (#257)

Maybe they should just label it.

And say where it was processed.

And what kind of hormones went into it.

And if it was a BGH dairy cow. With Spongiform.

The problem's that it takes more people doing more local using more time.

And that's a Corporation killer.

So we'll continue doin' what we're doin'. With every man for himself.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: A K A Stone (#255)

If we stop using it here could it help feed the third world?

First, no one here is interested in feeding anyone in the Third World.

You try to feed Third World, they call you a hero.

You ask why the Third World's hungry, they call you a terrorist....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: A K A Stone (#255)

Is it worse the hot dogs or bologna?

Second, Yes, because you can put anything into Pink Slime. The Ammonia process makes it edible.

But to your question. I stopped eating hot dogs/bologna long before I stopped eating meat.

And I watched them grind the Sirloin into hamburger...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: A K A Stone (#255)

Is it more or less nutritious then regular beef?

The more you process by definition, it's less 'nutritious'.

The higher on the Food Chain, the more toxic the product.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: lucysmom (#249)

an average of 200 industrial chemicals in umbilical cord blood tested.

Anytime now. We go non linear.

Neonicotinoids and Other Chemicals www.beesalive.com/neonicotinoids.htmlCached

Using weapons such as imidacloprid and other neonicotinoids, we wage war with nature. ... Some History - How Did We Come to Use Chemicals Anyway?

Controversial Pesticide Linked to Bee Collapse | Wired Science ... www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/03

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: mcgowanjm (#264)

The more you process by definition, it's less 'nutritious'.

The higher on the Food Chain, the more toxic the product.

Yep. Everywhere air, steel, hands, even gloves contact meat, there is potential for all sorts of contamination.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-31   12:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: jwpegler (#256)

Stone, you are making too much sense here for him to possibly comprehend.

And speaking of someone not giving a rat's ass about feeding the Third World....

;}

And feeding the Third World with meat? LMFAO

You do realize that is impossible. On every level. Even with Pink Slime.

Even as we put a third of our corn crop in the gas tank....;}

Just totally un reality.

With now the Lowest Grain Stocks ever.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: mininggold (#266) (Edited)

Yep. Everywhere air, steel, hands, even gloves contact meat, there is potential for all sorts of contamination.

And that's exactly right but I was talking about Toxic accumulation in the Fats.

The problem for Corporations is that they've gone as far as they can.

The fewest workers, the most chemicals, the biggest machines, the longest transport, the most captive gov't.

And all the infrastructure designed to run on $20 the BBL fuel.

We're going back to local and Corporations will be left high and dry.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: All (#268)

The Tuareg taking over an area twice the size of France.

"We can hear heavy fire coming in the direction of the main military camp," a Reuters reporter said.

"People here are running all over the place and all the shops are closing."

Mahamane Diakite, an aide to the governor of Gao, told AFP: "We can hear heavy weapons fire. We have also seen two helicopters taking off to shoot. Rebels have entered the town."

In the afghans:

"A member of a U.S.-backed Afghan village police force has killed nine of his fellow officers as they slept in a volatile eastern area, officials said. The Taliban claimed responsibility.

The gunman opened fire with his assault rifle after waking up at 3 a.m. on Friday, ostensibly to take over guard duty at a small command post for the Afghan Local Police in Paktika province. He killed everybody inside, including the post's commander, according to officials. He then took their weapons, piled them in a pickup truck and sped away.

These people are getting away. All of them. There is no collateral damage for the Taliban. And that is the deadliest formula for the USSA.

"Another ALP member was accused of involvement in the killing of nine members of his unit in March in southern Uruzgan province. They also were shot and killed while asleep at their post in the village of Oshi in the province's Charchino district. It remains unclear if he killed them or allowed a killer into the post, but he was never apprehended."

BBC map

Mali's government forces have struggled to drive back the rebels. Mid-ranking officers in the military overthrew the government this month, saying the army needed more equipment to fight.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   13:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: mininggold (#266)

And you can bet BPA's all over/in your meat product:

Published on Friday, March 30, 2012 by Common Dreams FDA Keeps BPA in Food, Fails Public Health Again 'FDA should remove "responsible for protecting the public health" from its mission statement' - Common Dreams staff

Today the Food and Drug Administration has announced that it will not take steps to bar bisphenol-A, or BPA, a known toxic chemical, from canned food and liquid infant formula containers.

Studies show that BPA leaches from epoxy linings of cans into food and drink, and resurfaces in breast milk, saliva, urine, amniotic fluid and umbilical cord blood; the contamination is linked to many health problems including birth defects.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   13:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: mcgowanjm (#267) (Edited)

And speaking of someone not giving a rat's ass about feeding the Third World....

My responsibility is to feed my family, not the third world.

If the people in the third world want to eat, they should overthrow their socialist dictators and go to work.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-31   14:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: jwpegler (#271)

If the people in the third world want to eat, they should overthrow their socialist dictators and go to work.

Were they better off with their corporate dictators?

We once threw off the chains of our historical corporate dictators, only to embrace them again in the 21st century.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-31   17:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: mcgowanjm (#268)

And that's exactly right but I was talking about Toxic accumulation in the Fats.

The problem for Corporations is that they've gone as far as they can.

The fewest workers, the most chemicals, the biggest machines, the longest transport, the most captive gov't.

And all the infrastructure designed to run on $20 the BBL fuel.

We're going back to local and Corporations will be left high and dry.

I think they still have lots of wiggle room. The cheapest way for manufacturers to dispose of toxins is to get something to eat it. Whether eukaryote or prokaryote.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-01   2:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: All (#38)

#97. To: nolu chan (#93)

Nothing done by SCOTUS is null and void,

To paraphrase Andrew Jackson:

'How many soldiers does the SCOTUS have?....;}

There comes a time in every wo/man's life when a decision has to be made.

Do I live on my knees or die on my feet.

Congress has a <10% approval rating.

They don't even do polls on the approval of SCOTUS.

The Dems got zero for their asquiescence in the overthrow of Democracy December 14, 2000.

When the Gov't no longer represents the view of the people

(See the COG/State of Emergency, Patriot Act, and Citizen's United 'case' for details;)

the people have the right to overthrow that gov't.

just for shites and giggles I googled:

Deficit Reduction and Economic Recovery. The following is an ex of the pp of bulls**t that I got back:

The Unnecessary Pivot From Economic Recovery to Deficit Reduction Posted Jun. 14, 2011 By Loren Adler and Shai Akabas James Kennedy contributed to this post. Less than three years ago, the U.S. financial system barely averted a catastrophic meltdown, and the nation was embroiled in a severe recession. Our economy was analogous to a car rolling backwards down a hill at an uncomfortably quick pace. Thankfully, America’s leaders were able to hit the brakes and stop the skid with policies that, while far from ideal, returned the economy to a forward gear.

Oftwominds, Charles H SMith:

We have all experienced the disorientation and "brain freeze" that stress triggers. It seems these symptoms of stress have become normalized in countries where the authorities keep promoting phony "economic recoveries." The disconnect between what the authorities are claiming and what people are actually experiencing is widening, and that leads to stress. No wonder more and more people are "losing it" in public as their neural circuitry melts down under the strain of synthesizing what they experience (austerity) and what they're told (official spin about the "recovery").

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:20:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #98. To: nolu chan (#93)

As for Obama, even if he were found to be an alien, his actions would not be null and void. See de facto officer.

Obama's a war criminal.

Just like bush43 before him.

Worse. Anyone saying they can kill anyone at anytime for any reason is Evil.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:23:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #99. To: nolu chan (#93)

If we are to have universal health insurance,

the USSA will have to be mortally threatened.

Only then does the State attempt to gain the support of the Bottom 99%.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:24:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #100. To: nolu chan (#94)

It is deliberately misnamed

Just like you never see the word 'insurance' in the same sentence with Credit Debt Swaps.

And that CDS' 'sole' purpose is implied to be insurance against default.

Insurance proclaims a contract between parties.

Health Insurance is a tax, enforced/collected by the state for the benefit of private corporations who will not tell you the cost of what you're purchasing until after....

Just one more criminal enterprise on Planet Hell.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:28:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #101. To: nolu chan (#95)

O and Corporations, one way or another will be gone in 10 years.

Nah, they're like society's cockroach.

Only in that cockroach's can survive nuclear fallout.

Corporations can't survive the fall of the state.

10 years.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:30:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #102. To: nolu chan (#96)

supporters of the Act to turn out at the polls in November.

To vote for who.

If voting changed anything it would be made illegal.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:31:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #103. To: All (#102)

Behaviorally, stress breaks down self-control, so it is no surprise that stress leads to bingeing, addictive behavior, impluse buying, etc.--all "knock-on" effects with negative consequences.

Chronic stress permanently degrades our ability to rationally analyze and plan, and so we act irrationally or erratically, as we are no longer able to stick to a conscious plan of coherent action. With the rational mind and self-control centers permanently suppressed, we are prone to "zombie" passivity, "sleepwalking" though life. This may help explain Americans' remarkable passivity as their civil liberties are taken away and their financial insecurity increases.

Many of the features of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) are visible in "everyday Americans," and an understanding of how stress erodes rational thought and self-control helps explain why. -Charles H Smith

"February 26, 2012 They Won't Stop Until There's No One Left to Kill The awful Drudge links this:

The Pentagon is readying for the possibility of intervention in Syria, aiming to halt Syrian President Bashsar Assad's violent crackdown on protesters, the newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat reported Saturday, citing a US military offical.....;}

powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/

And you think the State's gonna diss it's corporation loving Top 400 to hand out Single Payer Medicare/VA for All?

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-01   8:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: All (#274)

If the mandate and all of the Affordable Care Act gets flushed by SCOTUS, it may greatly energize the supporters of the Act to turn out at the polls in November. Such could contribute to the reelection of Obama, leading to Obama making several appointments to the Court, changing the balance of power at the Court. That’s one way to look at it.

Governor Romney has been the voice of reason in the Republican primaries, and has refused to turn his back on his core values or change his positions despite the scurrilous attacks from his opponents. Were he not running against a successful incumbent, I would have no hesitation in bestowing upon him my full endorsement.

Governor Romney’s excellent qualifications are, however, trumped by the superior record while in office of the incumbent, Barack Obama. Taking the presidential oath in the middle of the worst financial crisis since World War Two, Mr. Obama hit the ground running and was quickly able to restore the public’s confidence in the financial markets with his aggressive actions to curtail the shady dealings of Wall Street hucksters. Even before taking office, Mr. Obama signaled that he would not be representing business as usual by his staunch opposition to the Troubled Assets Relief Bill at the height of the 2008 campaign. Mr. Obama’s boldest move was unleashing the FBI and Department of Justice prosecutors on Wall Street, who then secured indictments against the big players who were most responsible for the rampant fraud that caused the housing bubble and the resulting crash in the financial markets.

So I wholeheartedly give my endorsement to Barrack Obama for the Re Election of the President of the United States.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:55:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

^^^^APRIL FOOLS....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-01   9:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: mininggold (#273)

The cheapest way for manufacturers to dispose of toxins is to get something to eat it. Whether eukaryote or prokaryote.

The cheapest way is to throw it into the nearest body of water.

And pay the local official in charge to look the other way.

The second cheapest is your suggestion, but we can't get any more to eat any faster and still Peak Pollution is on the way.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-01   9:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: jwpegler (#271)

And speaking of someone not giving a rat's ass about feeding the Third World....

My responsibility is to feed my family, not the third world.

Exactly. So why don't you stay on threads where you have something to offer.... ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-01   9:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: jwpegler (#271)

If the people in the third world want to eat, they should overthrow their socialist dictators and go to work.

And here's your problem du jour, jw.

You think poverty happens because the poor got to the gravy train station 10 minutes too late, when the actuality is that the poor are being held up at gunpoint daily.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-01   9:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

The unemployment rate for those age 16 to 24 with bachelor's degrees stood at 8.1% in February, up from 4.6% four years earlier. Many others find themselves underemployed.

-CNN

The above is wrong. You don't get a bachelor's before age 21 for ex.

The frightening thing is that this is just the beginning. Things are going to get a lot worse in Greece. And in case you haven't been paying attention, these kinds of conditions are coming to the United States as well. We are heading down the exact same road as Greece went down, and the economic pain that this country is eventually going to suffer is going to be beyond anything that most Americans would dare to imagine.

theeconomiccollapseblog.c...st-century/comment-page-1

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   7:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: All (#279) (Edited)

we know weather is warmer and that human activity is the cause.

For global records, 2010 is the hottest year on record, tied with 2005.

The WMO, part of the United Nations, said the warmest 13 years of average global temperatures have all occurred in the 15 years since 1997. That has contributed to extreme weather conditions which increase the intensity of droughts and heavy precipitation across the world, it said.

"Global temperatures in 2011 are currently the tenth highest on record and are higher than any previous year with a La Nina event, which has a relative cooling influence," it said

Paul Michaelwaite from Netweather said: “As strange as it is to say this in March, it’s going to be a barbecue weekend.

“It’s pretty rare for it to be this warm, especially if you consider the average maximum temperature for March in the UK is just below 9C.”

Total Selected Records: 18009

Rainfall: 2913

Snowfall: 522

High Temp: 6809

Low Temp: 290

Low Max Temp: 634

High Min Temp:

6841

www.startribune.com/blogs/paul_douglas_on_weather.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   7:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: All (#280)

How you can tell CIA/MI6 wrote the article:

"The Tuareg are a traditionally nomadic and pastoralist ethnic minority group of some 1.5 million people who seek to secede from the Malian republic and form an independent nation called Azawad; the group has traditionally existed in a territory scattered across the Sahel and Sahara countries largely operated by al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)."

Al Qaeda's largely operating....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   8:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: All (#281) (Edited)

Do you want to see what a 21st century economic depression looks like? Just look at Greece. Once upon a time, the Greek economy was thriving, the Greek government was borrowing money like there was no tomorrow and Greek citizens were thoroughly enjoying the bubble of false prosperity that all that debt created. Those that warned that Greece was headed for a financial collapse were laughed at and were called "doom and gloomers". Well, nobody is laughing now.

theeconomiccollapseblog.c...st-century/comment-page-1

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   8:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: All (#282) (Edited)

Oysters have evac'ed the Gulf Coast.....;}

" Two years later, fourth generation oysterman Nick Collins said there is nothing but dead shells in the Louisiana oyster beds that produced 60 to 80 sacks of oysters a day before the BP spill.

"Has anyone found a successful spring spat set on their leases yet?" asks Mississippi-based oyster expert Ed Cake. "Is there any evidence that the long-awaited oyster industry recovery has begun east of the (Mississippi) River or in the Barataria Bay area?"

Oyster spat are larvae that successfully attach to a solid substrate, usually other oyster shells on an oyster bar, and begin growing and forming shells.

Many Gulf residents think BP just wants to close the book on the disaster. That's unlikely to happen until the environmental bill is paid, and funds are set aside to restore Gulf ecosystem.

The herring fishery in Prince William Sound is only now beginning to recover, 22 year after the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska, and the oyster fishery in Mexico's Terminos Lagoon has not fully recovered 32 year after the 1979 Ixtoc-1 oil spill, says Cake.

www.foodsafetynews.com/20...years-after-bp-oil-spill/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   8:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: All (#283) (Edited)

If you knew that you could live in luxury for the rest of your life but that by doing so it would absolutely destroy the future for your children, your grandchildren and your great-grandchildren would you do it? Well, that is exactly what we are doing as a nation.

The ruling class and opinion leaders are dominated by linear thinkers that believe the world progresses in a straight line. Despite all evidence of history clearly moving through cycles that repeat every eighty to one hundred years (a long human life), the present generations are always surprised by these turnings in history. I can guarantee you this country will not truly experience an economic recovery or progress for another fifteen to twenty years.

And this fellow doesn't appreciate climate change and PO....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   9:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: All (#284)

Hope is not an option.

There is too much debt, too little cash-flow, too many promises, too many lies, too little common sense, too much mass delusion, too much corruption, too little trust, too much hate, too many weapons in the hands of too many crazies, and too few visionary leaders to not create an epic worldwide implosion. Too bad.

The linear thinkers will continue to predict a recovery that never arrives.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   9:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: All (#285)

Dallas $3.89

Chicago $4.25

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   9:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: All (#286)

Looks like the Sarkozy/Mossad 'Al qaeda' option flopped:

Although German Chancellor Angela Merkel at first declined French Presidential challenger Francois Hollande’s offer to meet, Berlin is increasingly resigned to the likelihood that, after May, it will be dealing with the Socialist leader. The Chancellery has begun forging tentative ties with Hollande’s camp, but this is going to be a prickly process: Hollande has already announced that as President he would immediately renegotiate parts of the fiscal pact.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   9:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: All (#287)

And B careful what you wish for:

"“Conservatives may find that they weren’t careful about what they wished for in opposing ‘Obamacare,’” Adam Winkler, a constitutional law professor at UCLA School of Law, told TPM. “The economic, social and political pressure for health care reform aren’t going to just disappear. There’s a reason every major industrialized country has national health care. If the Supreme Court invalidates the Affordable Care Act, we are likely to see a government takeover of health care in the next decade.”

Sooner than that. We leave the Afghans and w/in a year we'll have Medicare/VA for all.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   9:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: A K A Stone (#0)

OK. The USSAns must be suffering an extreme shortage of Chinooks in the Afghans now.

OR

somewhere in our Empire, because we keep moving Chinooks into the Afghans from other parts.

"According to a statement released by NATO-led International Security Assistance Force on Monday, an International Security Assistance Force helicopter made a forced landing in eastern Afghanistan today.

The statement further added, ISAF is in the process of assessing the circumstances to determine more facts; however, initial reporting indicates that there was no enemy activity in the area.

The statement did not disclose further information regarding the exact location of the incident.

ISAF confirmed all crew members have been recovered. The site of the incident is secure and no fatalities were reported."

All of the above is bullshit.

1) Because the Taliban claimed to have shot down the Helo in the exact same place Sunday:

"14 US-Nato invaders killed as Nato helicopter downed in Ghazni Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 09 Jamadil Awal 1433 Sunday, 01 April 2012 17:25

GHAZNI, Apr. 01 – A recent news report indicates that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate brought down Nato helicopter in Andar district of Afghanistan’s Ghazni province on Sunday.

The helicopter was shot down with artillery fire close to the US PRT base at 9:00 a.m. local time after it was about to land, causing the it to set on fire, witnesses to the scene said.

A Mujahideen’s official said that as many as 14 US-NATO invaders are believed to have been killed in the shoot-down, adding that the shoot-down site was cordoned off by the US invaders with a large number their tanks."

My question is how the USSAns are covering the deaths. And the now missing Chinook. "The third reason for rising Gulf consumption is the inefficiency of domestic energy markets. About 65 percent of Saudi electricity is generated using black gold, even as successive price shocks and the relative inefficiency of oil generation have seen it all but phased out in rich countries.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   9:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: All (#289)

And the above confirms this:

"#219. To: All (#217) (Edited)

Thursday, 06 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:44 HELMAND, Mar. 29 – Heavy fighting broke out early this morning in Kofki area of Babaji region, Lashkargah when Mujahideen engaged US invaders that landed by helicopters for an operation.

It is said that the fighting is still ongoing at the moment (late afternoon time), causing the enemy heavy losses. More details will be updated later.

shahamat-english.com/inde...rea&catid=1:news&Itemid=2

20 killed in 'intense' firefight after NATO convoy is ambushed in Afghan mountains By msnbc.com news services and NBC News

KABUL, Afghanistan -- Insurgents ambushed a NATO coalition supply convoy in a mountainous area of western Afghanistan, sparking a three-hour firefight in which an Afghan soldier, five security guards and at least 14 attackers were killed, Afghan officials said Thursday.-msnbc

Same battle where the Afghans shot down the Chinook killing 30 on board.

8 killed including commander, two wounded in Ghazni battle Zabihullah Mujahid

Thursday, 06 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:56

GHAZNI, Mar. 29 – A news report states that on Thursday Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate carried out a surprise attack on the enemy combat convoy that triggered a one-hour long fighting in Muqur district of Afghanistan’s Ghazni province in which 8 puppets including their commander were killed and two more wounded with two of the enemy vehicles destroyed. The area come under heavy airstrikes by the US invaders shortly afterwards.

This makes more sense.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-03-29 21:09:15 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   9:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: All (#290)

Press TV April 2, 2012

The Taliban say they have shot down an American helicopter in Afghanistan’s eastern province of Ghazni, Press TV reports.

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid claimed on Monday that at least 14 US soldiers were killed after the chopper was downed in Andar district on Sunday.

He said that the militants have targeted the helicopter with an “82mm rocket.”

Afghan and American officials have not yet commented on the report.

Several choppers belonging to US-led military forces have been downed in recent months in the war-torn country.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   9:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: All (#291)

Reported security incidents

#1: The Taliban militants have set fire to a convoy of NATO tankers carrying fuel for US-led foreign forces in southwestern Afghanistan, Press TV reports. Afghan officials said the militants destroyed at least six fuel tankers in an ambush in Dilaram district of Nimruz province late on Monday.

This is while the Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid claimed that the militants destroyed nine tankers along with seven escorting vehicles. Dilaram governor Abdul Karim Barahawi said at least four Taliban militants were killed in an airstrike fallowing the attack.

A similar ambush last week destroyed five NATO fuel tankers. Dozens of Taliban militants were gunned down in the ensuing clashes.

And ALL of the above is where the helo was shot down and the battle took place in the posts above.

Summary:

The USSAns are now reduced to patroling their SUPPLY routes which are being heavily interdicted by the Resistance.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   9:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: All (#25)

To ReCap:

"Depending on who’s doing the counting, the ANA consists of 100,000 to 150,000 soldiers, but only 1 percent of their units can operate without direct NATO assistance, according to Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, an officer with the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a recent interview with Military.com.

Scaparrotti appears to think it is somewhat redeeming that after $12 billion of U.S. investment in 2011 alone, 42 percent of the ANA units are capable of leading security operations “with advisers.”

Thanks a lot — considering that after this week’s riots, NATO didn’t even deem its advisers safe enough to let them continue their work in the ministry buildings. ...

As of this moment there is almost ZERO interaction between this MultiBillion Army and ISAF/NATO/USSA...;}

Mullah Omar could give the order today and how many of that Army would fight under the White Taliban flag?

After 11 years and this is our effort revealed?

It's looking more and more like Saigon 1975.

Mujahideen clash with invaders Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 09 Jamadil Awal 1433 Sunday, 01 April 2012 13:27

HELMAND, Apr. 01 – Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate clashed with cowardly US invaders earlier today in Nahr Siraj region’s Yakhchal area, causing the enemy heavy casualties and losses.

The International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said on Monday that the deaths of coalition troops at the hand of Afghan soldiers had sapped spirits among its forces. "Although the incidents are small in number, we are aware of the gravity they have as an effect on morale," ISAF spokesman Brigadier General Carsten Jacobson said in Kabul.

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-15149996

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:20:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: All (#293) (Edited)

And of course in Iraq on the 9th Anniversary of the Battle of Saddam Int'l.

Everything's as bad as it has been.

" It appears that the "experts" who assessed the implications of the statue coming down were all wrong. The U.S. military was not met with a flower-throwing public; almost 5,000 U.S. soldiers, 5,000 U.S. civilian "security" personnel; and hundreds of other foreign nationals have been killed since April 9, 2003. Hundreds of thousands of U.S. soldiers have been severely wounded since that date. There is no democracy in Iraq. There is no government in Iraq. There is no peace in Iraq. It looks like the experts were a little premature in their basking in glory.

April 9 was supposed to be a national holiday in the "new" Iraq. On the first anniversary, Bush had planned to visit Baghdad and lead a huge parade in the area of Saddam’s statue. Something occurred along the way to make Bush change his plans: a fierce resistance.

On April 9 this year, the square will look the same as it has every April 9 since the U.S. invasion. It will be cordoned off and no one will be allowed to enter. This is a long way from having millions of people flood the area."

And I distinctly remember getting a flock of shite from across the spectrum on how the toppling of the Statue in Al Fir Square was the genuine rejoicing of the Iraq people......LMFAO....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: All (#294)

March 29, 2003, 0924hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow - During the past day the situation on the US-Iraqi front remained largely unchanged. The US is continuing reinforcing the attack group near Karabela for a thrust toward Baghdad. By the morning of March 29 up to 20,000 coalition troops were massed in the area of Karabela. This forces includes up to 200 tanks, 150 artillery systems and more than 250 helicopters. The order for the attack will be given by the coalition commander Gen. Tommy Franks, who, according to intercepted radio communications, will personally inspect the troops during the next several hours.

Around 1900hrs yesterday an Apache attack helicopter crashed. Intercepted radio communications show that the helicopter was heavily damaged in a combat mission. The helicopter's pilot lost control during landing and the helicopter crashed, causing serious damage to another helicopter that landed earlier.

The coalition troops have so far failed to take An-Nasiriya despite of the categorical orders from the command and more than 800 combat missions by the strike aircraft. All attempts to break through the Iraqi defense were met by Iraqi counterattacks. After 24 hours of fighting the coalition troops only managed to advance several hundred meters in two sectors near An-Nasiriya at the cost of 4 destroyed armored personnel carriers, no less that 3 Marines killed by sniper and mortar fire, 10 wounded and 2 missing in action. The exact Iraqi losses are being determined.

The Americans have also failed to advance near An-Najaf. Every coalition attack was met by massive artillery barrages from the Iraqi side. Later during the day the Iraqis mounted a counterattack throwing the US forces back by 1.5-2 kilometers. No fewer than 10 Marines were killed or wounded. After exchanging fire for six hours both warring sides remained in the same positions. Iraqi losses in this area are estimated to be 20 killed and up to 40 wounded.

Near Basra the British troops pushed the Iraqi defense lines on the Fao peninsula but were unable to capture the entire peninsula. The British advance was a maximum of 4 kilometers from the highway leading to Basra. Radio intercepts show that in this attack the Iraqis shot down a British helicopter. Additionally, two tanks and one APCs were destroyed by landmines. At least 2 [British] servicemen were killed, around 20 were wounded and 15 were captured by the Iraqis.

Exchange of fire continued in the area of the Basra airport. The Iraqis destroyed one coalition APC wounding two coalition soldiers. The Iraqi losses are difficult to estimate, but available information suggests that up to 20 Iraqi soldiers and local militia members might have been killed in the air and artillery strikes.

All attempts by the British troops to break through the Iraqi defenses from the south along the Al-Arab river have yielded not results. The British command reported that it is unable to storm Basra with the available forces and will require no less than two additional brigades and at least five additional artillery battalions. Thus, to avoid further casualties the British are adopting defensive tactics, while trying to maintain a tight blockade around Basra and trying to improve their positions with small localized attacks. The British are also maintaining pressure on the Iraqi positions on the Fao peninsula.

The psychological levels among the city's residents, according to interviews, is far from critical. The Iraqi military made several public announcements to the residents offering them a chance to leave the city. However, most of the residents do not want to leave, fearing the faith of the Palestinian refugees, who, after losing their homes, gained pariah status in the Arab world. Basra's residents were extremely depressed by the video footage aired by the coalition command showing Iraqis on the occupied territories fighting for food and water being distributed by the coalition soldiers. The city's population views this as a sample of what awaits them if the Americans come...

At the Al-Kuwait airport the unloading of the 4th Mechanized Infantry Division is continuing and is expected to be completed by the night of April 1. During a night flight one of the US military transport aircraft requested an emergency landing. What happened to the plane is still being determined.

Currently the coalition command is deciding how better use the 4th Infantry Division. The complete deployment [of the division] and preparations for combat are expected to take at least 10 days. However, the combat units require immediate reinforcements and it is possible that the [4th Infantry} Division will be joining combat in stages, as the units become ready. This will mean a considerable reduction of the Division's combat effectiveness.

A report was obtained, prepared by the Al-Kuwait-based [coalition] Psychological Operations Tactical Group for the [coalition] Special Ground Forces Command. The report analyzed the effectiveness of the information and propaganda war. According to the report, analysis of the television broadcasts, intercepted radio communications, interrogations of Iraqi POWs show that psychologically the Iraqis are now "more stable and confident" that they were during the last days before the war. This, according to the report, is due primarily to the coalition's numerous military failures.

"...Following nervousness and depression [of the Iraqis] during the first days of the war we can now observe a burst of patriotic and nationalistic feelings. ...There has been a sharp increase in the number of Iraqi refugees, who left the country before the war, returning to Iraq. A "cult of war" against the US and the UK is now emerging among the Iraqis...", the report states. [Reverse translation from Russian]

[Coalition] analysts believe that if this attitude of the Iraqis is not changed within the next 7 days, a "resistance ideology" may take over the Iraqi minds, making the final [coalition] victory even more difficult. In response to this report the US Army Psychological Operations command decided to combine all Iraqi POWs into large groups and to distribute the resulting video footage to the world media. A more active use of the Iraqi opposition was suggested for propaganda work in the occupied villages. The same opposition members will be used to create video footage of the "repented" Iraqi POWs and footage of the local [Iraqi] population "opposing Saddam."

Radio communications intercepted during the last five days suggest that the coalition is using Israeli airfield for conducting night air strikes against Iraq. Combat aircraft are taking off regularly from the [Israeli] Hatzerim and the Navatim airbases do not return to the same bases but fly toward the border with Jordan while maintaining complete radio silence.

Possibly these are just Israeli Air Force exercises, However, [Russian] radio intercept and radar units observe increased intensity of radio communications coming from the Jordanian air force and air defense communication centers during such overflights, as well as changes in the operating modes of the US Army "Patriot" tracking radars deployed in Jordan. This indicates the Israeli airbases as used as forward airfield or that some of the coalition air force units are based there. Normally the IAF F-15I fighter-bombers and A-4N strike aircraft operate from the Hatzerim airbase and the F-16 fighter-bombers operate from the Nevatim base.

Experts believe that these airbases may be used by the F-117 stealth bombers "officially" based at the Al-Udaid airbase in Qatar. Using these two locations minimizes the risk to the F-117s by allowing them to fly along the left bank of the Euphrates (in the direction of Turkey) and to avoid the dangerous maneuvering over Iraq.

The destruction of the telephone stations in Baghdad did nothing to disrupt the communications of the Iraqi army. The coalition command acknowledged this fact after analyzing the dense [Iraqi] radio traffic. Because of that the USAF was ordered to employ the most powerful available [conventional] munitions against predetermined strategic targets. This attacks will be carried out immediately before renewing ground advance.

(source: iraqwar.ru, 03-29-03, translated by Venik)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: All (#295)

Reviewing ground operations [in Iraq] analysts conclude that the desert terrain and the resulting inability of the Iraqis to fight outside of towns and villages provide the coalition with its main strategic advantage. Complete air dominance allows [the coalition troops] locating and engaging Iraqi positions and armor at maximum distance using precision-guided munitions not available to the Iraqis, while remaining outside of the range of the Iraqi weapons. Considering the course of this war and the tactics used by the coalition, [Russian military] analysts find this tactics to be far removed from the realities of modern warfare and designed exclusively against a technologically much weaker opponent. Such tactics is unimaginable on the European theater of combat with its woodlands and cross-country terrain. Foreseeing the possibility of a future military standoff between the US and North Korea the analysts are certain that the US cannot hope for a military victory on the Korean Peninsula without the use of nuclear weapons.

(source: iraqwar.ru, 04-03-03, translated by Venik)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: All (#296)

The beginning of the Battle of Saddam Int'l:

April 4, 2003, 1507hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow -

By the morning of April 4 the situation on the US-Iraqi front showed a tendency toward stabilization. As the forward coalition units reach Baghdad they fulfill their primary orders outlined by the coalition command. During the four days of the advance elements of the US 3rd Mechanized Infantry Division have bypassed from the east the Iraqi defenses at Karabela and, without encountering any resistance, advanced around 140 kilometers along the Karabela-Baghdad highway and reached the Iraqi capital. However, the goals of this attack will be fully achieved only when the US Marine brigades, now advancing along the left bank of the Tigris, reach the southeastern outskirts of Baghdad.

All indications are that the breakthrough by the 1st Brigade of the 3rd Mechanized Infantry Division toward the Baghdad international airport, although a significant thrust forward, did not come as a surprise to the Iraqi command. The US units occupying the airport area did not encounter here any significant resistance (the airport was guarded by no more than 2-3 Iraqi companies without any heavy weapons) nor did they see any indication that the Iraqis were even planning on defending the airport. Except for the line of trenches along the airport's perimeter the US troops found no other defensive structures. The airport was clear from all aircraft with the exception of a few old fuselages and a passenger plane (possible belonging to a Jordanian airline company), which did not have time to leave the airport before the flight restrictions were announced by the coalition with the beginning of the war.

Currently the coalition group of forces in the airport area number up to 4,000 troops, up to 80 tanks and about 50 artillery systems. It should be expected that several helicopter squadrons from the 101st Airborne Division will be deployed here in the next several hours.

According to electronic surveillance the coalition command in Qatar order the attacking US forces to halt on at least three occasions. The command ordered additional reconnaissance to be done in the airport area fearing there may carefully concealed Iraqi units and extensive defenses. The coalition command issued the final order to capture the airport only until the coalition reconnaissance units contacted the command headquarters directly from the airport terminal. The Iraqi forces protecting the airport offered little resistance and after a few exchanges of fire withdrew toward the city. Communication was lost with one of the coalition units protecting the flanks of the advancing column. It is still being determined whether this unit got lost or if it encountered an ambush.

Around 0800hrs the US positions [in the airport area] were attacked by the militia forces probably from among the local population. The militia was dispersed by tank and APC fire.

The 2nd brigade of the [3rd Mechanized Infantry] Division reached the southern outskirts of Baghdad and is currently located near the intersection of the Baghdad-Amman and Baghdad-Karabela highways.

The coalition claims of "completely destroying" the "Media" ("Al Madina al Munavvara") and the "Hammurali" Republican Guard divisions of the 2nd Republican Guard Corps received no confirmation. No more than 80 destroyed Iraqi armored vehicles were found along the coalition's route of advance, which corresponds to about 20% of a single standard Iraqi Republican Guard division.

It has been determined that only a few forward elements of the "Hammurali" Division participated in combat while the entire division withdrew toward Baghdad. A single brigade of the "Medina" division was involved in combat. The brigade was split in two groups during fighting and withdrew toward Baghdad and toward Karabela to join the main forces of the ["Medina"] division.

Equally unimpressive are the numbers of the Iraqis captured by the coalition. In four days of advance the US troops captured just over 1,000 people only half of whom, according to the reports by the US field commander, can be considered regular troops of the Iraqi army. There are virtually no abandoned or captured Iraqi combat vehicles. All of this indicates that so far there has been no breakthrough for the coalition; Iraqi troops are not demoralized and the Iraqi command is still in control of its forces.

No significant changes occurred at other Iraqi resistance areas.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: All (#297)

April 5: Resistance at the Airport mis read by American Commanders:

April 5, 2003, 1357hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow - The situation on the US-Iraqi front is characterized by gradual reduction of American offensive activity. After the 3rd Mechanized Infantry Division tank forces had marched towards Baghdad and its vanguards reached the city from south and south-west, engineering fortification of their positions began, which indicates the end of the current stage of the campaign as well as the loss of offensive potential of American forces and necessity to rest and regroup. It is supposed that during the next two days the American command will attempt local strikes in order to improve and extend their positions on the south and, especially, south-west approaches to Baghdad (crossing the Baghdad –Samarra roadway) and begin bringing fresh forces from Kuwait.

As we supposed, during the last night Americans were moving 101st Airborne Division troops to help the 1st Mechanized Division that captured the airport of Baghdad yesterday morning. About 80 strike and transport helicopters and 500 marines were deployed there.

But all the efforts to reinforce the brigade with heavy armor failed as Iraqi started powerful artillery strikes at the transport routes and organized mobile firing groups on the roads. After reports about losing 3 tanks and 5 APCs on the route the American command had to pause the movement of the reinforcements by land.

Yesterday’s estimates of the forces concentrated here were overstated. After analysis of intercepted radio communications and reports of American commanders it was specified that at the airport there were only parts of the 1st brigade troops, up to 2 enforced battalions with the help of a self-propelled artillery division 3 thousand soldiers and officers strong, 60 tanks and about 20 guns.

Another battalion enforced with artillery crossed the Baghdad-Amman roadway and came into position at the crossroads to the south of the airport, near Abu-Harraib.

Soldiers of the 1st Mechanized Brigade spent almost all the last night in chemical protection suits, waiting for Iraqi to use their “untraditional weapons”. Apart from that, their positions were constantly shot with artillery and machine gun fire. The brigade commanders report that the soldiers are ultimately dead-beat, and are constantly requesting reinforcements.

About 10 armored units including 4 tanks were lost in this area yesterday. Up to 9 men were killed, about 20 wounded, at least 25 reported missing. Moreover, the status of a patrol group that didn’t arrive at the airport remains unclear. It is supposed that it either moved away towards Khan-Azad and took defense there or got under an ambush and was eliminated. It is now being searched for.

The losses of Iraqi were up to 40 men killed, about 200 captured (including the airport technical personnel), 4 guns and 3 tanks.

Currently American reconnaissance squadrons are trying to dissect the suburban defenses with local sallies.

At the same time, marine troops are approaching the south-east borders of Baghdad. Their vanguard units reached the outskirts of Al-Jessir and immediately tried to capture the bridge over a feeder of the Tigris, the Divala river, but were met with fire and stopped.

Commander of the 1st Expeditionary Marine Squadron colonel Joe Dowdy was deposed yesterday morning. As was revealed, the colonel was deposed “…for utmost hesitation and loss of the initiative during the storm of An-Nasiriya…”. This way the coalition command in Qatar found an excuse for their military faults by that town. The “guilt”of the colonel was in his refusing to enter the town for almost 3 days and trying to suppress Iraqi resistance with artillery and aviation, trying to avoid losses. As a result, the command additionally had to move the 15th squadron of colonel Tomas Worldhouser there, who had to storm the ferriages for almost 6 days, with about 20 of his soldiers killed, 130 wounded and 4 missing. The 1st Expeditionary Squadron lost no men at An-Nasiriya, but 3 marines died, as were reported, “by inadvertency”and about 20 soldiers got wounded.

Despite the fact that marines were able to capture one of the bridges at the south outskirt of An-Nasiriya, the ferriage across the Euphrates is still risky. Fights in the city are going on.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: All (#298)

April 6: Battle of Saddam Int'l shocks US.

"April 6, 2003, 2000hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow - By the morning of April 6th an uncertain and quickly changing situation has developed. Coalition divisions are continuing to advance toward the city outskirts. The 22nd and 15th expeditionary marine squadrons are trying to break into the region of military airport “Rashid”from south-east. Iraqis are holding the line along the Diyala river and currently the marines cannot capture beach-heads on the right bank.

A hard situation has formed near the international airport. The day before yesterday the Iraqi minister of propaganda claimed that the coalition forces in this region would have been eliminated by this morning, and the Iraqi command ordered to storm the airport. At 10am it was attacked by 3 Republican Guards battalions enforced with militia troops. Americans requested artillery and aviation support. The battle lasted for almost 6 hours. After several unsuccessful attacks Iraqis managed to drive Americans back from the second runway to the airport building. Currently the coalition forces control the building itself and the new runway bordering to it. During the day the foes had to increase their strengths and deploy reinforcements. By the evening up to 2 regular Iraqi brigades and 2 thousand militiamen were fighting for the airport. Americans had to use all available forces of the 3rd Mechanized Division and 101st Airborne Division to repulse the attacks. Only assault aircraft and battle helicopters made more than 300 operation flights to this region.

During the fight Iraqis lost up to 20 tanks, 10 APC, about 200 men killed and up to 300 wounded. The American losses were up to 30 men killed, about 50 wounded, at least 4 tanks, 4 APC and 1 helicopter. But it is impossible to obtain the exact data yet. By this hour there have been more than 20 flights for evacuation of killed and wounded coalition soldiers and the command have requested ambulance aviation again.

The combat was so intense that commander of the 3rd Mechanized Division general-major Bufford Blunt had to issue an order to organize a false strike. Around 8am from Khan-Azad road junction an attack was organized in order to demonstrate tank vanguards of a large subdivision advancing toward Al-Daura from south. The group was able to reach the outskirts of the town near the Avajridge village. After entering the village the group was met by Republican Guards. In direct combat the group lost 2 tanks, 3 APC, 3 men killed, up to 10 wounded and, after two hours of fighting, withdrew to the main forces. Iraqis lost 4 tanks, 2 APC and up to 30 men killed.

By the evening the foes reduced their activity and were regrouping during the last night. Americans are rapidly fortifying their defense positions and deploying reinforcements to the airport region, increasing their forces at Khan-Azad and Abu-Harraib. Iraqis are moving anti-armor divisions closer to the city outskirts.

Despite the exchange of strikes there are no reasons to expect any serious attempts to capture the city in the nearest future. By numerical strength the coalition troops that have reached the city borders do not meet even the minimal requirements for storming and heavy urban fights. Coalition forces by Baghdad number up to 18-20 thousand men and can be enforced with no more than 3-5 thousand men while the minimal force necessary to capture a city like Baghdad equals from 80 to 100 thousand soldiers.

According to weather forecasts, in the coming day the weather may abruptly change to the worse. The wind is expected to intensify, visibility may reduce to 200-300 m.

All the claims made by aviation commander of the coalition, general Michael Mosley, about “…Iraqi army, as an organized structure consisting of large units, exists no longer…”are contrary to fact and, according to analytics, are probably connected with severe pressure put on the military command by American financial groups that desperately needed good news from the US-Iraqi front by the end of the financial week. In fact, the Republican Guards defending Baghdad have not lost even 5% of their numerical strength and military equipment. Most of those losses were due to bombardments and not land combats. The total losses of Iraqi army since the beginning of the war have not exceeded 5-8% of their defensive potential. This means the main battles are still to be seen.

The situation in other sectors of the US-Iraqi front will be summarized closer to this evening.

(source: iraqwar.ru, 04-06-03, translated by Necroman)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: All (#299) (Edited)

Russia evacs Embassy. US readies Nuclear.

"April 6, 2003, 2000hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow - Around Baghdad skirmishes between coalition forces and Iraqi divisions are going on. As we said before, during the next two days the coalition troops will extend the zone of blockade to the west and north-west using local strikes. Currently a part of the 1st brigade of the 3rd Mechanized Division is outflanking the city from Abu-Harraib, trying to reach the south outskirts and seize a strategic bridge across the Tigris at the north of the Tunis area (Salakh-Khasan).

Fire has not stopped near the Airport, both sides are using artillery. According to the most recent data the rush of the coalition forces toward to the southern borders of Baghdad, though expected by the Iraqi command, was tactically surprise. Hidden in the interiors of the city, parts of the Iraqi army were unable to leave their covered positions, advance and face the enemy. There arouse confusion that led to disorganization of the Iraqi squadrons that engaged their rivals “on the move”, without proper reconnaissance and concentration of forces. According to specified information in different conflicts and during the assault of the airport up to 400 Iraqi soldiers were killed, 25 tanks and 12 guns were lost.

But the coalition command also faced serious problems. Powerful Iraqi attacks aimed at the airport immobilized most of the force breaking towards Baghdad and it turned out necessary to bring reinforcements from other sectors of the front in order to succeed. In particular, up to 2 battalions of the 101st Airborne Division located by An-Nasiriya and An-Najaf and at least 1 battalion of the 82nd Division were moved there. Americans tolls at the south and south-east of Baghdad for the last 24 hours amount to: up to 30 men killed and at least 80 wounded, 15 soldiers are known to be missing. The Americans lost at least 8 tanks and 5 APC.

Marine squadrons are still incapable of breaking down defenses by the Diyala river. Currently the vanguards are trying to outflank the city from east and seize the bridge in the New Baghdad region. There are not enough coalition forces to block such a city, and the troops blocking An-Nasiriya, An-Najaf, Al-Kut and Al-Diwaniya were given categorical orders to break down the Iraqi resistance in the next 3 days, take control of those areas and advance toward Baghdad to join the blockade.

To organize offensive against Karbala the blocking troops were enforced with one expeditionary marine squadron, and another storm started this morning. There is no information about casualties from this region yet. Analogous tasks were set before the British command at the south of Iraq near Basra. For the past 2 days the British have tried to overcome Iraqi defenses from An-Zubair and the Manavi regions 3 times, but they still cannot break down the resistance. This morning an armored column was able to come up to a strategic cross-road near Akhavat-Rezan, but got under heavy fire and had to retreat. Yesterday and during this morning the British lost at least 3 armored units, 2 men killed and 6 wounded.

The coalition command and the foreign policy departments of Russia and USA are now making every effort to close all the information related to the Russian embassy getting fired near Baghdad.

Sources claim that the embassy ceased its activities in many respects because of the danger of an air strike on the embassy. The American command was utterly irritated by the presence of the Russian embassy in Baghdad and believed that some technical intelligence equipment was deployed there that provided the Iraqis with information. Moreover, some officers in the coalition HQ in Qatar openly claimed that it was on the territory of the Russian embassy that the “jammers”hampering the high-precision weapons around Baghdad were operated. Yesterday morning the Secretary of State Colin Powell demanded of immediate evacuation of the embassy from the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs Igor Ivanov. Yesterday evening the Russian minister informed the Americans that on the 6th of April the embassy column would be leaving Baghdad heading for the Syrian border. This gave rise to dissatisfaction among the State Department officials who suggested that the column should move to Jordan.

The coalition special operations HQ were sure that the embassy column would contain secret devices taken from military equipment captured by Iraqis. In this connection one cannot shut out the possibility of “revenge”from the coalition command. Moreover, experts claim that the purpose of this armed assault could be to damage a few cars where the Russians would have to leave some of the salvage. This is also indicated by the fact that neither the ambassador himself nor journalists in the column were among the injured. In this case we can expect that this action was committed by coalition special forces and the column was shot using Russian-made weapons to conceal the origin of the attackers to blame the Iraqis afterwards. According to the most recent data the column got ambushed almost 30 km to the west from the city on the territory occupied by the coalition, but moving fast it escaped from fire and made a few more kilometers where it was blocked by military jeeps. On attempting to establish contact with their crews it received fire again, then the jeeps vanished.

Today at 5pm a phone conversation between president of Russia Vladimir Putin and president of the USA George W. Bush took place. Before this conversation, his assistant for National Security Affairs Condoleezza Rice, who came into Moscow today, had consulted Bush. At this time Rice is meeting Igor Ivanov, the head of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The details of this meeting are unknown so far, but we can suppose that very soon some “unknown squadrons”will be made responsible for the incident and the situation will be dampened to the maximum.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: All (#300) (Edited)

April 7, 2003, 1914hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow -

The situation on the US-Iraqi front during the morning-night on April 7th was characterized by extreme fierceness of combat. During the night-morning the coalition units continued to encircle the city from west and east. The 2nd brigade of the 3rd Mechanized Division, as was revealed before, after a five-hour march reached the northern approaches of Baghdad and occupied the region bordering to the strategic bridge Salah-Khasan, but was unable to seize the bridge itself because of a heavy missile and artillery barrage. Up to 10 men were killed, at least 20 wounded. In the morning the brigade lost its communication center destroyed by a tactical Iraqi missile.

April 7, 2003, 2400hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow (UPDATE) - By this evening the situation on the US-Iraqi front in the environs of Baghdad has become less tense. All the American units have returned to their initial positions corresponding to the morning of April 7th. Currently artillery and aviation occasionally open fire at the city. The details of today’s raid of the 1st tank brigade of the 3rd Mechanized Division column to the central district of Baghdad are now available. Radio surveillance data allow us to contend that it was a joint action of the American Special Forces and the army command.

By 3pm the remains of the commando assault groups forced their way to the American positions and at 15:30 their common withdrawal began. At 5pm the American troops left the city. The exact casualties of the American Special Forces remain unclear. According to communications between American commanders the status of least 15 men is unknown. Whether they are dead, captured or hiding in the city is still obscure. It was reported that the commandos captured a high officer but during the rush he was killed and left in the city.

The American command criticized the raid. General Tommy Franks who came to the airport region called the level of the casualties during this local operation “unacceptable” and the results “paltry”. Yet it was noted that the Iraqi command reacted on bringing the forces into Baghdad “with an inexplicable delay” and the actions of the counter-attacking Iraqi units “uncoordinated”. American commanders believe that it happened due to “severe malfunction of the whole communication and control system”. It is still unclear what damaged Iraqi communications. According to some data most of the high command left the city after it had been blocked and moved to a reserve command center located in the northern regions of Iraq while the local command remaining in the city has not taken control over the situation yet. Some officers in the coalition HQ presume that if this is the case then even storming Baghdad will not finish this war and a “campaign to the north”, where quite an effective and large group of Iraqi troops remains, might be necessary.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: All (#301)

April 8

According to reports by American commanders the resistance of the Iraqis does not make an impression of them acting under a united organized command and looks more like operations of autonomous groups. Moreover, the Americans note very limited use of Iraqi tanks and artillery. There are almost no serious artificial obstacles and strong points prepared for a long defense. This does not give grounds to consider Baghdad prepared for a long siege. And, under such level of resistance the battles for Baghdad may end in 5-7 days. But in spite of certain success, the US forces are still unable to break the Iraqi opposition. Even units fortified at the outskirts are being attacked and are constantly receiving fire.

It is still unknown where the top political and military Iraqi leaders are. Out of the high-ranked officials only the Minister of Information Mohammad Saed Sahaf is certainly present in the city.

According to arriving information, at about 11am an American helicopter was shot down over the southern suburb of Baghdad. The US command has confirmed their loss of a heavy attack plane A-10 at Baghdad.

This morning in Basra marine units began to “clean up” the old city blocks where remains of the Iraqi garrison held the line yesterday. Currently, according to the first reports, the advancing marines do not face any resistance and there is a high probability of the Iraqis having abandoned their positions and left the city or mixed with Basra citizens when darkness fell.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: All (#302)

April 8 Ramzaj's last report:

"April 8, 2003, 1846hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow - Events of the last 2 days have made further work of Ramzaj group in its current format impossible.

With the embassy personnel and journalists having left Iraq and most of Iraqi information services evacuated from Baghdad, analysis of the situation in Baghdad and Iraq as a whole becomes ineffective.

The quickly changing course of street fights leaves any informational updates far behind. Direct TV broadcasts are far more evident than any analytics. At the same time, we do not have the right to reveal classified, “top secret” information.

Apart from that, our actions meet increasing opposition from the official quarts and in fact are turning into confrontation the outcome of which is not difficult to forecast.

Therefore we have to discontinue our work and thank everybody for taking part in the project.

In conclusion we would like to say:

All the “updates” came out from a compact group formed a few years ago in the framework of a special service. The group used to work for the government for a long time but all its members have left the service and now act as an independent analytical group that has kept some capabilities. This gives an answer to the most common question – about the sources of our information.

We participated in the ongoing events on a “non-profit” basis and had no object other than to stand the US-British informational blockade of the war in Iraq.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: All (#303) (Edited)

All the information the Russian side has about the fire opened at the Russian embassy column indicate that shooting at the diplomats and journalists was not an accidental event but rather a planned action of frightening and retribution. This version is also supposed by several today’s attempts of Americans to stop the column on its route and carefully examine the diplomats’ cars and accompanied baggage. The Russian Foreign Ministry and the high-ranking officials keep silent. On the meeting of the President of Russia Vladimir Putin and the National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice they agreed “to forget about this regrettable indicent” and “prevent any impact on the Russian-American partnership”…

(source: iraqwar.ru, 04-07-03, translated by Necroman)

right in here, the night of April 7 Morning April 8,

Baghdad loses electricity. The Electrical Grid is never the same again....;}

http://www.jimpivonka.com/newsmpt/news094.htm

Al Jazeera: Tareq was killed in Baghdad. Eight years ... Dima Tahboub: Tareq was killed on April 8, 2003, nine years next April. His death ... A most beloved husband, father and son had been lost for good.

www.aljazeera.com/indepth.../2011121085517490112.html

BAGHDAD Share this on: Facebook Twitter Digg delicious reddit MySpace StumbleUpon LinkedIn April 17, 2003

Power returned to the Iraqi capital on Thursday, if only for short periods of time and in scattered areas, a senior U.S. military official told CNN.

"Over the last four to five days we've been meeting with the top electrical engineers of Baghdad and the surrounding area to try to get the electrical grid back up," Marine Maj. Don Broton told CNN.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   11:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: All (#304)

First Confirmation from NPR that Electrical/Phone Grid Down

April 7, 2003

www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1223721

And never the same again.

"Iraq was going to change all that. In one place on Earth, the theory would finally be put into practice in its most perfect and uncompromised form. A country of 25 million would not be rebuilt as it was before the war; it would be erased, disappeared. In its place would spring forth a gleaming showroom for laissez-faire economics, a utopia such as the world had never seen. Every policy that liberates multinational corporations to pursue their quest for profit would be put into place: a shrunken state, a flexible workforce, open borders, minimal taxes, no tariffs, no ownership restrictions. The people of Iraq would, of course, have to endure some short-term pain: assets, previously owned by the state, would have to be given up to create new opportunities for growth and investment. Jobs would have to be lost and, as foreign products flooded across the border, local businesses and family farms would, unfortunately, be unable to compete. But to the authors of this plan, these would be small prices to pay for the economic boom that would surely explode once the proper conditions were in place, a boom so powerful the country would practically rebuild itself.....;}"

harpers.org/archive/2004/09/0080197

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   11:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: mcgowanjm (#304)

the top electrical engineers of Baghdad and the surrounding area to try to get the electrical grid back up,"

They're throwing rose petals at our feet.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-03   11:53:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: hondo68 (#306)

And since April 7 and the Battle of Baghdad Airport, Baghdad's Electrical Grid has never been the same.

Now what could cause that?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   12:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: All (#11)

April 3 2003 :

"The BBC's Andrew Gilligan in Baghdad, whose activities and reports are monitored by Iraqi authorities, has visited the airport and says there is no sign of increased military activity or any US forces. "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   9:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: All (#308)

US Myers raises possibility of isolating Baghdad

By Sean Loughlin and Jamie McIntyre CNN Washington Bureau | April 4, 2003

Pentagon officials raised the possibility Thursday that coalition forces might try to isolate Baghdad and render the regime of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein "irrelevant," avoiding urban warfare within the city to topple the government. Asked at a Pentagon briefing whether coalition forces were gearing up for an urban conflict within Baghdad, Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, suggested that might not be the case. "The tactical situation could be very different from what we suppose," Myers said.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: All (#309)

Few in Baghdad believe these recurrent fires were provoked by the "remnants of Saddam's regime" - as goes the official Washington line. They don't know for sure for whom the arsonists are working. But they are asking themselves three questions. Who profits from the destruction of the whole infrastructure of the Iraqi state? Who profits from the destruction of Iraq's invaluable cultural wealth? And why are Americans soldiers just blank-stared, gum-chewing spectators of all this pyromania?

(©2003 Asia Times Online Co,

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: All (#310)

``What you have is the making of a humanitarian catastrophe,'' said Sid Balman, spokesman for InterAction, an umbrella group of 165 relief organisations.

Baghdad went dark on Thursday for the first time since the war began on March 20, just as spearhead troops of America's 3rd Infantry Division closed in on the international airport on the capital's south-western outskirts.

U.S. officials denied targeting the electric grid. ``We didn't do it. It's as simple as that,''' said Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, chief spokesman for the U.S. Central Command in Qatar.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: All (#311) (Edited)

This is bullshite:

"I would love to give them a hug," said Richard Korn, whose only child, Captain Edward J. Korn, died April 3, 2003, in a burst of friendly fire. "I think they need it.

"Captain Korn, a member of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division from Fort Stewart, Ga., was killed as his unit and others were attacking Iraqi positions on a two-lane road about 15 miles southeast of Baghdad.

The convoy of American tanks and armored vehicles was stopped on the road when they spotted an Iraqi tank, a Russian-made T-72. They fired and the enemy tank exploded.

As the vehicle burned, Korn and a sergeant apparently dismounted and walked to the tree line near the tank, searching for Iraqi positions, Major Kent Rideout, the senior officer on the scene, told the Los Angeles Times.

At some point, Korn spotted a second tank and sent the sergeant back for an antitank rocket before going on alone.

Korn was wearing a brown T-shirt, a flak vest that was left open and no helmet, according to Rideout, who was scanning the tree line for more Iraqi positions.

"Out of the corner of my eyes, I saw behind the tank what looked to be an old campfire," Rideout told The Times. "I could see tea or coffee steaming, sleeping bags, chickens. It had all the hallmarks of a place where people were living. I put 2 and 2 together that this was a place a tank crew was living.

"All of a sudden, we saw movement. Someone dropped down, like he was going to fire, and then stood up and got behind another T-72."

Rideout's driver also indicated he saw an enemy. He leveled his M-16 and the major ordered him to fire.

"He fired one shot," Rideout recalled. "I'll never get over it. It was 200 to 250 yards away. He dropped him. I slapped him [the driver] on the head and said, 'That's the greatest shot I've ever seen.' "

The shot had hit Korn, a Desert Storm veteran and Bronze Star recipient who had left Fort Knox, Kentucky, to volunteer for war duty in March.

A Bradley fighting vehicle from Korn's unit also opened fire on the second Iraqi tank, some of its 25-millimeter rounds striking the fallen soldier.

"This was the worst day of my Army career," Rideout said. "No doubt, the worst day. I get to go home with that. I get to live with that for the rest of my life."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: mcgowanjm (#312)

Why is it bullshite?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-04   10:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: All (#312)

And someone else thinks the above is bull shite as well:

"Korn's father, Richard Korn, said his son was killed when somebody on a Bradley infantry fighting vehicle opened fire on the tank, thinking Korn was an Iraqi soldier.

The Army did not return phone calls about Korn. A press release said only that the incident was under investigation.

Korn blamed the incident on a lack of communication and said he felt sorry for the soldier who shot his son."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:23:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: All (#314)

www.hindu.com/thehindu/20.../.../2003040405860100.htm

Apr 4, 2003 – BAGHDAD April 3. The Iraqi capital plunged into darkness tonight as loud explosions rocked the city and tracer rounds raced through the sky near the airport.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: All (#315)

8. Sgt. 1st Class Wilbert Davis, Alaska, age 40, died April 3, 2003. Davis was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 69th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

9. Staff Sergeant George E. Buggs, S.C., age 31, died March 23, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Co., 3rd Forward Support Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

10. Private First Class Wilfred D. Bellard, La., age 20, died April 4, 2003, Charlie Battery, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

11. Specialist Daniel F. Cunningham, Jr., Maine, age 33, died April 4, 2003, Charlie Battery, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

12. Private 2 Devon D. Jones, Calif., age 19, died April 4, 2003, Charlie Battery, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

13. Captain Tristan N. Aitken, Capt. Tristan N. Aitken, Pa.,age 31, died April 4, 2003, HHB, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

14. Sgt. 1st Class Paul Ray Smith, Fla., age 33, died April 4, 2003, Bravo Co. 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

15. Staff Sergeant Stevon A. Booker, Pa., age 34, died April 5, 2003, Alpha Co, 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

16. Private First Class Gregory P. Huxley, Jr., N.Y., age 19, died April 6, 2003, Bravo Co., 317th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

17. Staff Sergeant Lincoln D. Hollinsaid, Ill., age 27, died April 7, 2003, Bravo Co., 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

18. 1st Lieutenant Jeffrey J. Kaylor, Va., age 24, died April 7, 2003, Charlie Battery, lst Battalion, 39th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

19. Private First Class Anthony S. Miller, Texas, age 19, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division.

20. Specialist George A. Mitchell, Jr., Md., age 35, died April 7, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division.

21. Sergeant Henry L. Brown, Miss., age 22, died April 8, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

22. Sgt. 1st Class John W. Marshall, Calif., age 50, died April 8, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

23. Private First Class Jason M. Meyer, Mich., age 23, died April 8, 2003, Company B, 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

24. Staff Sergeant Robert A. Stever, Ore., age 36, died April 8, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

25. Private First Class Marlin T. Rockhold, Ohio, age 23, died May 8, 2003, Bravo Co., 3rd Battalion, 7th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

26. Sergeant Michael T. Crockett, Ga., age 27, of Soperton, Ga., died July 14 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Battalion, 7th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

27. Specialist Joel L. Bertoldie, Mo., age 20, died July 18, 2003, Headquarters, Headquarters Company, 4th Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

28. Staff Sergeant Nathaniel Hart, Jr., Ga., age 29, died July 28, 2003, 416th Transportation Company, 260th Quartermaster Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

29. Private First Class Charles M. Sims, Fla., age 18, died Oct. 3, 2003, 549th Military Police, Co., 3rd Military Police Battalion, (attached to 1st AD for OIF1)

30. Captain James F. Adamouski, Va., age 29, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

31. Specialist Matthew G. Boule, Mass., age 22, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

32. Chief Warrant Officer 4 Eric A. Halvorsen, Vt., age 40, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

33. Chief Warrant Officer 2 Scott Jamar, Texas, age 32, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

34. Sergeant Michael F. Pedersen, Mich., age 26, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

35. Chief Warrant Officer 3 Eric A. Smith, Calif., age 41, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

36. Captain Edward J. Korn, Ga., age 31, died April 2003, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

37. Specialist Ryan G. Carlock, Ill., age 25, died Sept. 9, 2003, 416th Transportation Co., 24th Corps Support Group, 3rd Infantry Division.

38. Private 2 Kelley S. Prewitt, Ala., age 24, died April 6, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Battalion, 69th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

39. Staff Sergeant Terry W. Hemingway, N.J., age 39, died April 10, 2003, C Company, 1st Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Benning.

40. 1st Sergeant Joe J. Garza, Texas, age 43, died April 28, 2003, Headquarters Co. 1st Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Benning.

41. Specialist Donald S. Oaks, Jr., died April 2003, Delta Co., 1st Battalion, 39th Field Artillery, 3rd Infantry Division.

42. Sergeant Todd J. Robbins, Mich., age 33, died April 2003, Charlie Battery, 13th Field Artillery (from Fort Sill, Okla., attached to 3rd Inf. Div.)

43. Sgt. 1st Class Randall S. Rehn, Colo., age 36, died April 2003, Charlie Battery, 13th Field Artillery (from Fort Sill, Okla., attached to 3rd Inf. Div.)

Artillery fire could be heard near the Saddam International Airport, 16 km southwest of downtown Baghdad. Tracer rounds raced through the sky and shells exploded in the air. A Reuters reporter said dozens of Iraqis, including civilians and soldiers, were killed in the village of Furat near the airport today evening in what witnesses said was a U.S. rocket strike. He said more than 120 people were wounded in the attack on the village, which lies between the airport and the Iraqi capital. Iraqi officials put the toll at 83. In Baghdad, the explosions persisted for nearly 15 minutes before the power went off at about 8 p.m. — the first widespread electrical failure in the capital since the U.S.-led bombardment began two weeks ago. The entire city appeared without power. The reason for the loss of power was not immediately clear.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: All (#316)

David Bloom. Embedded with the 3rd Infantry Division. Died April 5 2003....;}

"*

With newspapers, magazines and articles printed from the Internet sprawled across his tray table and bed at Walter Reed Army Medical Center yesterday, the 23-year-old Northeast Baltimore native pointed to a picture of an unnamed soldier on a stretcher in a recent issue of Newsweek. That's him.

And there's the April 6 Atlanta Journal-Constitution, with a front-page column by reporter Ron Martz under the headline, "I owe these heroes my life." That's Schafer, too.

Schafer, part of the 3rd Infantry Division based at Fort Stewart in Georgia, was headed to attack Baghdad International Airport on the morning of April 5 when the tank in front of his was hit and couldn't be saved. Making way for the displaced soldiers, he moved over to the personnel carrier where the Atlanta reporter was riding.

Schafer's orders en route: "Nothing is friendly out here. We were firing at anything that moved."

Shots came flying. His buddy, Christopher Shipley, was hit, Schafer thinks in the head. Then he was hit as well - how many times, the doctors don't even know.

"I just know that my arm is broke, and I got holes in my back," Schafer said.

Shipley survived, meeting up with Schafer at a hospital in Rota, Spain."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: All (#317) (Edited)

Remembering David Bloom - CNN.com - Transcripts transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0304/06/rs.00.htmlCached

Apr 6, 2003 – He was embedded with the Army's 3rd Infantry Division and died in a ... now is CNN's Walter Rodgers, with the 7th Cavalry, south of Baghdad.

" KURTZ: And finally, Walt Rodgers, is it any more difficult for you in terms of the operational security now that you're not just rolling through the desert but on the outskirts of Baghdad, in terms of what you feel that you can report and not report? We all saw the sort of embarrassing episode involving Geraldo Rivera, who was asked to leave Iraq for reporting sensitive information about troop locations.

Are you censoring yourself even more than usual now?

RODGERS: Not at all. And let me comment on the rules. As in every avenue of life, the rules, the laws are made to protect us. The Pentagon set out the rules. Those rules protect us. You obey the rules, you enjoy the protection of the rules and the protection of the law.

You disregard the rules, it's like somebody going down the highway at 120 miles an hour. Law is there, rules are there to protect everyone. They have worked well when they're obeyed -- Howard.

KURTZ: Walt Rodgers, outskirts of Baghdad, thanks very much.

I want to read a statement I was just handed by CNN -- excuse me, from President Bush, through CNN. The president mourns the loss of David Bloom and extends his sympathies to the Bloom family, just as he continues to mourn the loss -- excuse me -- of all military and others who have lost their lives in Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Mark Thompson, you're down at the Pentagon every day for "TIME" magazine. These embedded correspondents, the reports are coming in often hours, sometimes even days before the Pentagon itself is able to confirm this information.

Is there starting to be resentment among Rumsfeld and company about the embedded experiment?

MARK THOMPSON, "TIME" MAGAZINE: I think what's interesting about it, Howie, is that the Pentagon in some way likes getting it early. When I've been out with troops, with the press, with the DOD media pool, we report back to the military. They're eager for our reports, because it's a check on what they're being told in their own chain of command.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   11:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: All (#318)

CNN Walter Rogers April 3 2003:

"We have seen quite a few dead Iraqi soldiers by the road [Thursday]. What we noticed was all of the dead Iraqi soldiers had gas masks. They are moving in anything but what you would call an organized formation. The Iraqis we see are generally driving pickup trucks, or they are riding about in old Soviet Union vintage armored vehicles, which are no match for the armor-piercing shells that the tanks are firing.

This armored column has been under almost constant fire. When we first crossed the Euphrates River, it was pretty barren in terms of not much of a civilian population. As we pushed closer to Baghdad, we began to see that the Iraqi population was indeed welcoming the U.S. Army convoy and welcoming them northward."

LMFAO The welcome of almost constant fire...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   11:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: All (#319) (Edited)

Friday, April 4, 2003 Posted: 1:49 AM EST (0649 GMT)

The bombing began about 2 a.m. Friday [5 p.m. Thursday EST]. One explosion was so powerful that it lit up the blacked-out capital, and a fire engulfed a structure.

• Myers: U.S. forces did not knock out power to large areas of Baghdad late Thursday.

My Edit: Yes, Myers, you did.

(CNN) -- With U.S. boots on the ground at Saddam International Airport, sustained explosions rocked Baghdad on Friday morning, illuminating the darkened capital where the electric power is off and the power of the regime might be fading.

The bombardments came in waves, sometimes with explosions rocking the capital one after another for minutes on end. The bombing began about 2 a.m. Friday [5 p.m. Thursday EST]. One explosion was so powerful that it lit up the blacked-out capital, and a fire engulfed a structure.

Three hours later, the city shook from more multiple explosions, and antiaircraft fire shot into the sky.

American armored divisions launched the assault on the airport, 12 miles from the center of the Iraqi capital, as U.S.-led coalition troops advanced on the city.

The battle for the airport continued after dawn.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   11:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#310)

Who profits from the destruction of the whole infrastructure of the Iraqi state? Who profits from the destruction of Iraq's invaluable cultural wealth?

We found out that the Baathists profited from setting their own infrastructure on fire. We also found out that the Iraqi citizens believed they had a right to loot given the Baathists kept all the wealth. So they stormed every government facility. Weeks after the looting I saw plumbing "supplies" on sale on the street markets which were ripped out of Saddams' palaces and government buildings. We also saw kids selling Iraqi Army uniforms and equipment. As you went further south in Shia land the same items were being sold. If someone bought the gear and looted supplies in Iraqi dinar, you received change in Iranian currency. There was a lot going on before we even got there.

I too received Iranian currency when I bought sodas and pita bread for the men on a long convoy in Southern Iraq. The kid (a good capitalist) tried to sell me his donkey. I had no use for a donkey but did not want to insult the kid, so told him I really needed a camel. Showing the true business nature of the Arab, he told me to come back in two hours and he would sell me three camels:)

I slapped him on the shoulder and told him (he spoke good English) I would think about it. This was all before the insurgency (April to early June 2003). At that point the Iraqis were happy Saddam and the Baathists were out of power and expected us to have them hold elections immediately. Well leave it to the State Dept and politicians to screw that one up. There was a brief (2 month) period of opportunity we squandered. We should have loaded our equipment up and departed Iraq by the end of June at the latest.

Now addressing your post. No we did not burn and loot Iraq. We did have some bad actors and bad leaders who went after war "booty" like the looters, and most of them were punished. The ones who did not get caught red handed were caught by US Navy customs inspectors when the unit rotated out of Iraq to Kuwait. So American Soldiers did not torch Iraq. Sitting around with blank stares...yep that was a problem and here is the reason why:

Now that the book "Cobra II" has been published many know that the timeline to secure Iraq was to be in the August 2003 timeframe. Since the regime fell 4 months earlier than expected, the Troops operating in Baghdad were under the war time rules of engagement (ROE). The ROE and Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) is clear you do not shoot unarmed civilians. When confronted with looters our Soldiers tried to stop them, but the Iraqis knew we would not shoot because of the ROE and LOAC. The LOAC does give provisions for an occupying force to stop looting with deadly force but that edict usually comes from a provisional government. When the provisional government adjusted the ROE there was a two week period where information was distributed via handbills, radio, TV and SAT TV (we may think the Iraqis were poor, but the majority of people there had SAT dishes). Once the word got out we would use deadly force, the looting stopped. However, the damage was already done. Looking back at this, I think the looting by Iraqi citizens could not be stopped. Even if our military leaders had "authority" to use deadly force on looters, I think they and our political leaders would not have enforced it. What is worse to see on CNN, Iraqis looting their own infrastructure or US Soldiers and Marines cutting down some poor Shia dude from Sadr City stealing leather chairs from the Dept of Agriculture? Yeah it was war and war is hell.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   11:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: mcgowanjm (#320)

• Myers: U.S. forces did not knock out power to large areas of Baghdad late Thursday.

My Edit: Yes, Myers, you did.

How do you know? Do you think the bombing knocked out the power? Here is an interesting tidbit. Saddam used to order black outs in Baghdad when there was unrest, protests etc. Not my words, but Saddam admitted this. He also admitted that he was more worried about a coup to overthrow him when the conflict started. So Saddam could have done it, he did it in the past. There is another theory that CIA operatives working with resistance figthers did this. Possible, but we found out from the book "Cobra II" that Saddam was on to the CIA operatives and he knew the military and political officials working with them. If the US hit the power grid, then ask yourself "for what purpose." It was clear in OPLAN Cobra II (as indicated in the book) that the US wanted to avoid infrastructure damage given the coalition wanted a functioning Iraqi economy after regime change.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   11:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: All (#320)

``What you have is the making of a humanitarian catastrophe,'' said Sid Balman, spokesman for InterAction, an umbrella group of 165 relief organisations.

Baghdad went dark on Thursday for the first time since the war began on March 20, just as spearhead troops of America's 3rd Infantry Division closed in on the international airport on the capital's south-western outskirts.

U.S. officials denied targeting the electric grid. ``We didn't do it. It's as simple as that,''' said Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, chief spokesman for the U.S. Central Command in Qatar.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: All (#323)

Asked if he believed the price increases were a result of the halt in the oil imports from Iran, Tunc stated “what is its benefit? Why the measure has been taken? The energy minister should give a satisfying response to the nation. If they (the price hikes) are a result of this halt in imports from Iran, why did Turkey joined the move? What will be the benefit for Turkey? Because, as you know, relations between countries are based on national interests and reciprocity.”

“We used to talk of zero problem with neighbors, but we have ended up in having problems with all of them. Why we came to this point? None of us know. We don’t know what would be the results. We, as the BBP and the Turkish nation, want to know about this,” he concluded."

See what happens when you side with Israel?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: All (#324)

struggles amid continued weaknesses in Europe and the broader economic downturn.

Except for Israel:

Israel plans sovereign wealth fund - FT.com - Financial Times www.ft.com › WorldCached

Feb 19, 2012 – Israel has revealed plans to set up a new sovereign wealth fund, which will be ... weather the global financial crisis better than most other western economies. ... The broad financial goals of the fund, however, will be set by a ...

Israel-Concluding Statement of the 2012 Article IV Consultation ... www.imf.org/external/np/ms/2012/021312.htmCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Feb 13, 2012 – Israel's economy remains strong. Output fell for only two quarters during the "Great Recession", then ... The shekel is now broadly consistent with fundamentals and international reserves are appropriate by most measures. 2.

How is this possible from a desert state with no water and no energy.

That exports nothing but citrus and children.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#326. To: All (#325) (Edited)

David Bloom/NBC with the 3/7 Cavalry 3rd Infantry Division.

Dies April 6, 2003 somewhere near the Baghdad Airport.

Specialist Donald S. Oaks, Jr., died April (?) 2003, Delta Co., 1st Battalion, 39th Field Artillery, 3rd Infantry Division.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: All (#326)

Battle of Baghdad Airport April 3-8 2003

"You might now remember that on the night before the Battle of Baghdad began Saddam had promised us an attack… Well, he kept his promise. Friday night at 8:30 p.m. (Central), I was watching CNN showing the predawn of Saturday 5:30 morning half-way around the world in Baghdad…

All at once the skyline of the besieged city erupted with the flash and report of sustained explosions. The CNN people (Aaron Brown and Fredricka Whitfield) reacted with surprise, saying that U.S. public affairs hadn’t alerted them that there would be a major fire mission tonight. I immediately became anxious, knowing it exceedingly unlikely that public affairs hadn’t contacted affected media about a major fire mission in a choreographed war. “It probably wasn’t us doing the firing,” I thought.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#328. To: All (#327)

" In the next few minutes CNN’s reporter Walter Rodgers, embedded with the 3/7 Cavalry, attempted to make a report from the Baghdad Airport. Rodgers’ voice was indistinguishable because of the extreme background noise of artillery impacting around him, automatic small arms fire striking his vehicle and the shouts of the soldiers inside. It was the fog of war, no doubt about it. Aaron Brown offered no explanation of the noise, merely stiffly saying that the network was having technical difficulties.

Thankfully, Walter Rodgers’ luck held. A half hour later Fredericka and Aaron were off the clock and Larry King Live carried an interview between Rodgers and Lt. Col. Terry Ferrell – the commander of the very 3/7 Cavalry under fire at the airport. I had never seen the unit commander in two weeks of the TV war, so his sudden appearance was just more sad corroboration of my theory that we were getting the worst of it in the early Battle of Baghdad.

Lt. Col. Ferrell bravely tried to keep a straight face as he told Rodgers that all was well at the airport, but ended up in tears; Rodgers was too choked up to pick up the conversation. The put-up interview was yet more tragic corroboration of my sad analysis, and I began to cry along with Lieut. Col. Ferrell and Rodgers, for the boys of the 3/7 Cavalry, remembering that I had once been a young cavalryman, too.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#329. To: All (#328)

Every minute that the Jessica Lynch story was being aired...

Media duly continued to broadcast Jessica for two days, then bombings meant to get Saddam for a third; they broadcast everything but the Battle of Baghdad. On Wednesday, April 9, public affairs contrived a pulling down of Saddam Hussein’s statue and word generally spread that the battle (never shown before and never acknowledged as begun) was over. Frustrated by the failure of the American media to cover the much-awaited battle, millions of Americans turned to the English-version Al-Jazeera online for their news — and it promptly crashed (probably interrupted on White House orders).

The public had (and continues to have) no idea that the Iraqis did make their promised counterattack on April 5, at the Baghdad Airport and later across Baghdad, inflicting hundreds of casualties while fighting a rearguard action as they dispersed into the underground. On the basis of twenty years of military service, I infer that the Battle of Baghdad is what was raging every minute the media was airing or printing distraction.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#330. To: All (#329)

Most all of these soldiers were killed at the Battle of Baghdad Airport:

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WASHINGTON, April 5 (UPI) -- The Pentagon announced early Saturday that eight of the soldiers whose bodies were found during the April 1 rescue of Jessica Lynch were traveling with her in the convoy ambushed March 23 in southern Iraq. A ninth body was identified as a soldier from the Third Forward Support Group of the Third Infantry Division, but his name has not been released yet.

The eight soldiers who had been listed as missing were consequently listed as killed in action. Seven were from the 507th Maintenance Company, Ft. Bliss Texas.

The Pentagon announced two Marine helicopter pilots were killed in a crash in central Iraq Saturday. The crash was not a result of hostile fire. Their AH-1W "Super Cobra" attack helicopter went down at approximately 12:19 am Saturday a.m. Their families have not yet been notified of the deaths.

The latest announcements brought the total killed either by hostile fire or accidents to 75, eight of whom were not yet identified early Saturday, a Pentagon spokesman told United Press International.

The eight names switched from missing to dead are Sgt. George E. Buggs, 31, of Barnwell, S.C.; Master Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy, 38, of Cleveland, Ohio; Pvt. Ruben Estrella-Soto, 18, of El Paso, Texas; Spc. James M. Kiehl, 22, of Comfort, Texas; Chief Warrant Officer Johnny Villareal Mata, 35, of Amarillo, Texas; Pfc. Lori Ann Piestewa, 23, Tuba City, Ariz.; Pvt. Brandon U. Sloan, 19, of Cleveland, Ohio; Sgt. Donald R. Walters, 33, of Kansas City, Mo.;

Buggs was with the 3rd Division Support Battalion, Fort Stewart, Ga. and the rest were with the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Earlier Friday evening the Pentagon announced the deaths of three more soldiers based at Fort Benning, Ga., who died as a result of severe injuries Thursday, bringing the total number of U.S. deaths in or around Iraq to 60.

They were that of Staff Sgt. Nino D. Livaudais, 23, assigned to 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. He was from Utah. Also identified were Spc. Ryan P. Long, 21, who was assigned to A Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. and Capt. Russell B. Rippetoe, 27, assigned to A Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. He was from Colorado.

Still earlier Friday, the Pentagon announced that four Army soldiers and two Marines had brought the total number of deaths associated with the war in Iraq to 57.

Spc. Donald S. Oaks Jr., 20, was killed in action in Iraq on April 3. He was assigned to C Battery, 3rd Battalion, 13th Field Artillery Regiment (Multiple Launch Rocket System), Fort Sill, Okla. Oaks was from Erie, Pa.

Sgt. 1st Class Randall S. Rehn, 36, was killed in action April 3. He was assigned to C Battery, 3rd Battalion, 13th Field Artillery Regiment (Multiple Launch Rocket System), Fort Sill, Okla. Rehn was from Longmont, Colo

Read more: www.upi.com/Business_News...1049570687/#ixzz1r5cNe6Ck

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#331. To: All (#330)

Paul William Roberts is a Canadian Reporter. He was in Baghdad during the invasion. While there, he heard reports that something major was happening at the airport. He repeatedly tried to gain access but was turned away at every junction. Eventually, he gained access to the extremities of the complex and noticed that the vegetation was turned to 'tar'.

Trees had warped/fell into pools of black tar. Also, Roberts noticed bodies wearing Iraqi camo, one example being a pair of legs, with the upper torso melted into a pool of black tar. Roberts is now blind. His doctors cite uranium damage to the eye. But its what Roberts discovered afterwards via his middle-eastern contacts that reveals more. Roberts states the following, by the way,all of this is from his book 'A War Against Truth' (2004);

The Americans were taken by surprise and withdrew when they encountered the SRG forces at the airport. Instead of engaging them in battle, U.S. troops went searching for other entrances and exits to the underground complex. One was found at Saddams opulent suite at the airport, another at the official palace.

There were others. When these entrance-exit points had been sealed, and U.S. Commanders were certain of the exact locations of the Special Republican Guardsmen, the Americans detonated some kind of hi-tech bomb -- there were rumours that it was a neutron bomb, but this seems outrageous even by their standards -- in the airports underground complex, in the Southern palace, killing everyone in it and in the northern palace. Estimates are in the forty thousand range. With the SRG defeated the war was essenitally over.

So long as there is no talk of what actually happened in Baghdad that weekend in April(3-8, 2003;), there is no freedom of the American press. The fix is in, my friend, and America’s in a fix.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#332. To: mcgowanjm (#329)

the Jessica Lynch story

You TEPCO stock moguls won't be able to cover up the ongoing Fuki meltdown, with the 'ol Jessica story much longer.


Japan eases limits in nuke no-go zone for 1st time.... www.tokyotimes.co.jp/2012...-no-go-zone-for-1st-time/

The town office had moved to another part of Fukushima prefecture but moved into a part of Kawauchi just outside the evacuation zone earlier this month to help smooth the process of residents’ returning.

While the reclassification means about 16,000 people can return home fairly soon, it’s not clear how many will. Most are waiting until the area is further decontaminated and infrastructure restored, and local officials have said towns may lose unity due to the three-way divisions.

Under the revised evacuation plans, areas with annual exposure levels estimated at 20 millisieverts or below are deemed safe for people to visit and prepare for their permanent return, while being encouraged to make further decontamination efforts. Limited access is allowed for residents in areas with higher contamination — up to 50 millisieverts of estimated annual exposure. Places with annual exposure estimates exceeding that will remain off-limits.

Despite the government declaration that Fukushima Dai-ichi is stable, the plant is largely running on makeshift equipment and remains vulnerable. Officials have said that it would take up to 40 years to fully decommission the highly contaminated plant that has three reactors with melted cores.

Decontamination efforts also are uncertain. Experts have said there is no established method, and more highly contaminated areas are difficult to clean up.

Environment Minister Goshi Hosono, also the nuclear crisis management minister, said Friday that containing radiation release and keeping the plant stability is crucial to the return of affected residents.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-04   12:46:30 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#333. To: redleghunter (#322) (Edited)

If the US hit the power grid, then ask yourself "for what purpose." It was clear in OPLAN Cobra II (as indicated in the book) that the US wanted to avoid infrastructure damage given the coalition wanted a functioning Iraqi economy after regime change.

First: That's bull shit. ' The only thing the USSA 'saved' was the Oil Ministry.

Everything else was burned to the ground.

Second:

"How do you know? Do you think the bombing knocked out the power? "

Yes....;}

April 3 at night, there was a light that lit up the sky. Followed immediately by a boom that shook the Downtown Baghdad buildings. The grid went down simultaneously and never came back.

April 7 at night. An even bigger explosion.

ON APRIL 5, 2003, unit founder Captain Eric May detected major glitches in the media pictures coming back from Baghdad, which US forces had just reached. The reporters had gone from hopeful April 4 announcements that the siege of Baghdad had begun, to worried April 5 announcements that there was a fierce fight at Baghdad Airport — then suddenly and without explanation away from the developing battle to the "human interest" story that Private Jessica Lynch had been saved from Iraqi captors.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#334. To: All (#333)

The Battle of Baghdad was happening off-camera, hidden behind Private Lynch!

The pull-down of the statue of Saddam Hussein on April 9 was another manufactured event to indicate that the Baghdad had been occupied by US forces. But how did they take the city?

The answer is that US forces were attacked by much-larger Iraq forces at the Baghdad Airport on Saturday morning, April 5, and after bleeding badly from that vicious fight were engaged in a fierce battle in the rubbled, slow-go driving — under constant Iraqi fire — through the city of Baghdad, a drive lasting until three days later, when the distraction of Private Jessica abruptly ended so that the media could show a set-up scene of the "Fall of Baghdad" (i.e., a set-up pull-down of Saddam's Statue).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#335. To: hondo68 (#332)

First. That's bullshit because the Typhoon just went thru last night.

Second. Fukushima City 300 000 will have to be evac'ed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#336. To: A K A Stone (#313)

Why is it bullshite?

This:

As the vehicle burned, Korn and a sergeant apparently dismounted and walked to the tree line near the tank, searching for Iraqi positions, Major Kent Rideout, the senior officer on the scene, told the Los Angeles Times.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#337. To: A K A Stone (#313)

Why is it bullshite?

And this:

"At some point, Korn spotted a second tank and sent the sergeant back for an antitank rocket before going on alone. "

So now you have a tank Commander/Captain, All alone between a second Iraq tank and his unit.

That's bullshite.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#338. To: redleghunter (#321)

We found out that the Baathists profited from setting their own infrastructure on fire.

Again bullshite.

They did not even destroy one bridge.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#339. To: mcgowanjm, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#335)

bullshit because the Typhoon just went thru last night.

Second. Fukushima City 300 000 will have to be evac'ed.

The kids are back in school in Fukushima City. The kid with the mask has eco-nut parents, damn shame.


Fukushima city welcomes return of last four schools after evacuation

Fukushima city welcomes return of last four schools after evacuationThe last four of this city's 12 elementary and junior high schools, which were evacuated to other locations as a result of the nuclear crisis, returned to their original premises and restarted classes here on Feb. 27. The return of the last four schools in this prefectural city, which until September last year was designated as an emergency evacuation preparation zone as a result of the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, marks the end of the city's school evacuation cycle, though much remains to be completed before children restart their lives as they were before March 11, 2011. The four schools, among which are Ishigami No. 1 Elementary School and Ishigami No. 2 Elementary School, resumed classes at their original sites for the first time in almost a year, after soil decontamination and building reconstruction work was completed, allowing children to return.


At two nuclear power plants in northern Japan, cooling of a spent fuel storage pool temporarily stopped because of power failures but resumed in about 30 minutes without affecting safety, their operator Tohoku Electric Power Co. said.

The Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant that suffered meltdowns at three reactors after last year's tsunami was unaffected by the storm.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-04   13:23:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#340. To: mcgowanjm (#333)

First: That's bull shit. ' The only thing the USSA 'saved' was the Oil Ministry.

Everything else was burned to the ground.

Second:

"How do you know? Do you think the bombing knocked out the power? "

Yes....;}

April 3 at night, there was a light that lit up the sky. Followed immediately by a boom that shook the Downtown Baghdad buildings. The grid went down simultaneously and never came back.

April 7 at night. An even bigger explosion.

ON APRIL 5, 2003, unit founder Captain Eric May detected major glitches in the media pictures coming back from Baghdad, which US forces had just reached. The reporters had gone from hopeful April 4 announcements that the siege of Baghdad had begun, to worried April 5 announcements that there was a fierce fight at Baghdad Airport — then suddenly and without explanation away from the developing battle to the "human interest" story that Private Jessica Lynch had been saved from Iraqi captors.

Where were you on April 5th?

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   13:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#341. To: mcgowanjm (#338)

Again bullshite.

They did not even destroy one bridge.

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites. Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess so the soon to be insurgency (as planned waiting in the wings) would gain popular support. If I were to put his words into English it would be something like this: "You wanted Iraq, here it is now have a nice day."

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   13:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#342. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/me...j.irq.war.main/index.html

Iraqwar.ru itself is history by Dom on 20.10.2004 [19:26 ] As time goes by I am more convinced that Iraqwar.ru was one of the unique things I ever experienced in life. I have yet to see anything like it. This site comes closest.

A lot of us were on Iraqwar every day from long before the war until the day it conked out. Too bad we can't look it up now and again. But then again, maybe life's too short for looking back. Once again. the living humans outlast their own works.

I don't reckon there's much in this neutron bomb story. As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#343. To: redleghunter (#341)

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites.

Thanx for adding nothing to this information....;}

'news websites'....LMGFAO....where does your lens form?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#344. To: redleghunter (#341)

Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess....

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#345. To: redleghunter (#341)

Again bullshite.

They did not even destroy one bridge.

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites. Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess ...

So why was not. ONE. SINGLE. BRIDGE. destroyed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#346. To: redleghunter (#341)

so the soon to be insurgency (as planned waiting in the wings) would gain popular support. If I were to put his words into English it would be something like this: "You wanted Iraq, here it is now have a nice day."

So why is EVERY ministry burned to the ground....

except....

wait for it....

the OIL Ministry building....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#347. To: All (#342)

As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

www.iraq-war.ru/article/27537

If theres one thing Russia is good for, its outing US BS. But then, the original articles/exposures are the work of American veterans.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#348. To: mcgowanjm (#344)

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

If something is not reported press does it make it untrue?

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#349. To: mcgowanjm (#345)

So why was not. ONE. SINGLE. BRIDGE. destroyed.

Have you read Cobra II. The answer is there.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#350. To: mcgowanjm (#346)

except....

wait for it....

the OIL Ministry building....;}

There were three oil ministry buildings...which one are you referring to? The Oil ministry had their own state security to fend off looters.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#351. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#1. To: Robin (#0)

Private First Class Lynch & the 3/7 Cavalry & the Battle of Baghdad Airport April 3-8, 2003

Writing on April 13 for the Danger Room blog at Wired, Hambling says that from the description al-Rawi gives in the Al Jazeera interview of a series of explosions that killed the occupants of buildings without destroying the structures, “Interestingly, there is a weapon in the U.S. arsenal designed to do exactly that. ... The AGM-114N.”

Hambling continues, “On May 15th, 2003, just a few weeks after the action at Baghdad airport, Donald Rumsfeld praised the new weapon. ... Although officially described as ‘metal augmented’ or even ‘hyperbaric,’ the new warhead is not distinguishable from thermobaric weapons which produce the same sort of enhanced blast with a lower overpressure and longer duration for more destructive effects. Like many thermobarics, the AGM-114N used finely powdered aluminum. The military are generally quiet about thermobarics because they have received such bad press. Human Rights Watch criticized them because they ‘kill and injure in a particularly brutal manner over a wide area.’ “

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-04 18:58:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: All (#1)

david bloom 3/7 cavalry

The Rescue of Private First Class Lynch

On the evening of 1 April 2003, SOF, supported by marines, assaulted the hospital in which Private Jessica Lynch was being treated.

Although there have been news stories subsequently suggesting that the assault was unnecessary since Iraqi troops had left the day before, one fact is clear--the SOF troops brought Lynch out.

Her capture, her captivity, even her return home stimulated speculation and enormous media attention

Staff Sergeant Joe Todd,

.Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Twitty, commander of TF 3-15 IN, knew Bloom better than any other soldier in the task force. They had first met 12 years earlier when Bloom, as a young up-and-coming journalist, covered the 24th Infantry Division during Operation DESERT STORM. Twitty was then a captain, serving as aide de camp for then-Major General Barry McCaffrey, commander of the 24th Infantry Division.211

...;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-04

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#352. To: redleghunter (#350)

There were three oil ministry buildings.

Show me.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#353. To: redleghunter (#350)

The Oil ministry had their own state security to fend off looters.

Show me this as well.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#354. To: redleghunter, All (#348)

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

If something is not reported press does it make it untrue?

STILL no sources for anything you say.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#355. To: redleghunter (#349)

Have you read Cobra II. The answer is there.

RU Serious?

You're gonna give me riddles?

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#356. To: All (#342)

As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

In an interview published by the Crawford, Texas, Lone Star Iconoclast (lonestaricon.com), May says, “The biggest story of the war became a non-event when the truth of the matter was that it was simply too bloody an event to report.

“The bogus rescue of Private Lynch was merely a distraction from the truth,” said May. “And the staged photo-op of the pulling down of Saddam Hussein’s statue was nothing more than a way to cement into people’s minds that it was an easy victory.”

Congressional hearings on April 24 heard testimony on “the histories of Pfc. Jessica D. Lynch and Cpl. Pat Tillman ... as egregious examples of officials’ twisting the truth for public relations in wartime.” (“Government Challenged on Lynch and Tillman,” New York Times, April 24)

Captain May says, “I think the Battle of Baghdad was emblematic of the whole misadventure in the Middle East. There is nothing that I thought then that I don’t think now has been validated by time. The American public still doesn’t know that there was a Battle of Baghdad because the media-military apparatus constructed the Private Jessica Lynch mess to hold attention.”

May continues: “The best evidence that I have from international sources, scientific sources, is that our position was becoming untenable at the Baghdad airport and we used a neutron warhead, at least one. That is the big secret of Baghdad airport.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#357. To: A K A Stone (#0)

April 5, 2003

Pat Tillman's first mission was securing the release of Jessica Lynch.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   10:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#358. To: All (#320) (Edited)

APRIL 5 This Day in History

April 5, 2003

Three hours later, the city shook from more multiple explosions, and antiaircraft fire shot into the sky.

American armored divisions launched the assault on the airport, 12 miles from the center of the Iraqi capital, as U.S.-led coalition troops advanced on the city.

CM: I had just come back from teaching a martial arts class on Friday, April 4, 2003. That would have been the morning of April 5 in Baghdad. Immediately, what I saw on CNN, about 9 p.m. Central time, was that Baghdad had been surrounded. We had dedicated the military forces to enveloping and making it succumb piece-by-piece, maybe sending in the 101st Airborne.

Then, all of a sudden, there was a report of explosions and CNN started to act like they were all rattled and didn’t know it was coming. Given that I was a prior service and intelligence public affairs officer, I knew very well that meant unexpected contact. Pretty soon, they were saying there were huge explosions from the airport, and the next thing you know, they’re casting over to imbed Walter Rogers from CNN. As he’s broadcasting from Baghdad Airport, you can hear artillery hitting around his Humvee and you can hear small arms fire hitting it: a distinct ping, ping, ping. That pretty much told me they were getting fired up bad.

That was when it was still pre-dawn in Baghdad. By dawn, Lt. Col. Terry Ferrell, the 3/7 Cavalry Group commander appeared on TV during CNN evening coverage and he broke down into tears when he trying to say everything was okay at Baghdad Airport. That made it clear to me that the 3/7, the scout unit, the cavalry squadron that attended the 3rd Infantry Division, the U.S. Army division that had surrounded Baghdad, had wound up in a close fight in the Baghdad Airport. That’s what I picked up at the time.

By the next day, CNN was saying there was substantial contradiction in facts from various media reports. Arab media were putting out 200 U.S. dead at the airport. Russian Intel put out that dozens were dead and a real fight had developed. U.S. media were putting out that Jessica Lynch had been rescued.

JA: How do you account for foreign media reporting about a bloody battle and U.S. media being silent about the airport while highlighting the rescue of Jessica Lynch?

CM: To me, at this point, it was a done deal. The Battle of Baghdad was essentially blocked out from April 5 all the way through April 8. On April 9, you had the pull-down of the Saddam statue which represents a pretty efficient ending of the Battle of Baghdad. But, it really was a propaganda ending. The pull-down was a staged event and I’ve heard that the few Iraqis there were not even Iraqis.

JA: Why have you taken such passion about the Battle of Baghdad?

Stranger than fiction Order Now

CM: The propaganda cover-up of the Battle of Baghdad, what we call BOBCUP (Battle of Baghdad Cover-up) was so conspicuously against the United States principles of information, which is what we follow in the Department of Defense Public Affairs operations, was so egregiously out of line, it was then that I self-mobilized my mission of conscience because, basically, it was apparent to me at that point, that we were under dictatorship. Suppressing the events of an entire battle and keeping it suppressed long after the battle was over … you know, you could have said, "Well, we didn’t want to tell the Iraqis where our troops were," or something else. But, you can’t say that months and months and months and years after the event.

Baghdad was the beginning.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   10:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#359. To: mcgowanjm (#354)

STILL no sources for anything you say.

I am a source. Three tours there in the thick of it and at a higher headquarters.

I was informed that your special "wire" thread is like a padded room for you to play in. I won't disturb your silence.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-05   14:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#360. To: mcgowanjm (#358)

JA: How do you account for foreign media reporting about a bloody battle and U.S. media being silent about the airport while highlighting the rescue of Jessica Lynch?

Of course there was a fierce fight for BIAP. Saddam's hunting lodge and palace are on the same compound. Hate to break this to you...The Battle of Baghdad was on the US News. Check out some of Ollie North's reports. The embeds did a good job. You do realize seizing Baghad happened 4 months ahead of schedule. And Jessica Lynch was rescued on 1 April not 4 or 5 April. 3ID and 101st were moving so fast and busting up what remained of the Iraqi disruption zones, one unit ran out of ammo, picked up Iraqi weapons and started fighting.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-05   14:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#361. To: mcgowanjm (#357)

Pat Tillman's first mission was securing the release of Jessica Lynch.

That's goofy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-05   18:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#362. To: redleghunter (#359) (Edited)

I was informed that your special "wire" thread is like a padded room for you to play in. I won't disturb your silence.

You got balls, you'll give me a source on anything.

You're innuendo bullshit is disinfo.

An ad hominem attack.

Your say so makes you a hero. good luck on that one....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#363. To: redleghunter (#359)

I am a source.

NUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

Yeah. Me too.

you got backing from your Zio fundy 1% ers. And that's all you got.

Good luck with that....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#364. To: redleghunter, All (#359)

Three tours there in the thick of it and at a higher headquarters.

Tell me about the Battle of Baghdad and the 3/7 Cavalry of the Third Infantry Division. April 5 2003.

And why that M1 Abrams deliberately fired into the Palestine Hotel.

The Invasion of Iraq. Then you can tell me why we did this.

you Zio Fundy's never disappoint.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#365. To: All (#364)

And while I'mm waiting for sdources from my padded cell....

LMFAO....8D

A little history:

Think back now the "crazy" claim by the Iraqi Information Minister, whom our media labeled a ridiculous "Baghdad Bob." On April 5, 2003, he made the claim from Baghdad that there was a fierce fight going on between US and Iraqi forces at the Baghdad International Airport and that the Iraqis were inflicting heavy casualties on our soldiers and Marines. That's about the last thing you will remember about the battle, because that's when Bush told the media to pull the plug on the truth and start lying. Within hours the media began to feed us a story about! Private Jessica Lynch as a distraction, and stopped reporting the US attempt to take Baghdad, clearly the biggest story of the war. They didn't return the cameras to Baghdad until April 9, after the fighting was over, when they broadcast the US Army pulling down the statue of Saddam Hussein.

The biggest story of the war became a non-event when the truth of the matter is that it was simply too bloody an event to report. If we had known that things were getting tough, we might have had second thoughts - and the Bush media is not going to let us think for ourselves. They haven't cared about the Constitution or journalistic ethics from the beginning; what they have cared about is boosting the war for their big bosses and Bush, public be damned!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#366. To: A K A Stone, All (#361) (Edited)

That's goofy.

Worse. Goofy and true.

Tell me you don't believe it....;}

Just straight up. No bullshite.

A K A Stone doesn't beleive that Tillman's fiirst mission in 2003 was securing the release of Jessica Lynch....

waiting in hopeful anticipation....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#367. To: A K A Stone, All (#366)

waiting in hopeful anticipation....;}

still waiting...

Just straight up. No bullshite.

A K A Stone doesn't believe that Tillman's fiirst mission in 2003 was securing the release of Jessica Lynch....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#368. To: redleghunter (#360)

The Battle of Baghdad was on the US News.

Oliver North of Iran Contra infamy?

LMFAO

might as well ask cheney/rummy/petraeus/frank, eh?

North is a flunky...;}

Someone else.

And I was watching April3-8 2003.

Told my family that the toppling of Saddam's statue with Chalabi's goonsas props was a fake.

From Day 1.....Give me a source. URL's and all that...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#369. To: redleghunter (#360)

You do realize seizing Baghad happened 4 months ahead of schedule.

I realize that Venik/Ramzaj and the Russian GRU gave me/the world real time data.

And that the USSA MEdia/Pentagon put out nothing but smoke.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#370. To: redleghunter (#360)

And Jessica Lynch was rescued on 1 April not 4 or 5 April. 3ID and 101st were moving so fast and busting up what remained of the Iraqi disruption zones, one unit ran out of ammo, picked up Iraqi weapons and started fighting.

Source any of that.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#371. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#139. To: nolu chan (#138)

You continue to try to ignore 600 years of judicial precedent.

Now why did you happen to pick 600 years ago and then post 1942 and 1871 US Verdicts?

That approx 600 years ago was the start of American genocide by the conquering Europeans, still honoring same today in the US?

No. That's not it.

That there is Still to this day no DC Memorial to the Slavery that built Congress and the White House?

Not that either.

Must be the Magna Carta. The Beginning of Habeus Corpus that the USSA HAS overthrown.

"You continue to try to ignore 600 years of judicial precedent."

When every attempt to peaceably overthrow the yoke that the Top 400 continue to try to throw over the head of ALL the Bottom 99%.

When the Treason of December 14, 2000 (AND every POTUS that has opposed the Central Bank has been shot annd shot at),

AND we get the Treason of 9/11 months after...

which then hurls us into a STATE OF EMERGENCY renewed EVERY year by the sitting POTUS....

the Rule of Law is the Rule of Kleptocracy. A Plutarchy.

And pretending the Bottom 99% have some say, when the POTUS has claimed and PERFORMED the right to kill any American at any time for any reason is to be part of the problem.

" Generally, the term is said to be the notion that America has a unique historic mission, values and ideals, that are either endowed by God or enshrined in the Constitution that make it exceptional in the world. Holy f**k, this is shaping up to be one long, miserable campaign. If you want to know why there is absolutely no hope that America will be able to change course before we manage to destroy ourselves, look no further than this happy horseshit. It was this dumbass idea that somehow America is exceptional, and therefore not bound by the limitations that bog down other mere mortal nations, that was a huge factor in getting us into such a huge f**king mess in the first place. This bulls**t all started with Ronald Reagan, of course. Jimmy Carter tried in his own bumbling and inept manner to warn Americans that there were limits not only to our military power but to the energy resources that fueled our very way of life. During the 1980 presidential campaign, Reagan and his minions took Carter's warnings and won big by beating him over the head with them. Then Reagan won re-election by using the same American exceptionalism club to wallop Walter Mondale..."

And I KNEW from DAY 1 of Reagan's Election that Democracy was dead in the US. And have been fighting the evil fu cks every day since.

35 years....that's about how long successful guerrilla wars take to prosecute successfully.

Almost there......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   8:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#372. To: All (#371)

#361. To: mcgowanjm (#357)

Pat Tillman's first mission was securing the release of Jessica Lynch.

That's goofy.

A K A Stone posted on 2012-04-05 18:04:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #362. To: redleghunter (#359) (Edited)

I was informed that your special "wire" thread is like a padded room for you to play in. I won't disturb your silence.

You got balls, you'll give me a source on anything.

You're innuendo bullshit is disinfo.

An ad hominem attack.

Your say so makes you a hero. good luck on that one....;}

Waiting on sources, replies....;}

But not much longer....;}

Padded Cell. You'll think goofy padded cell...LMFAO...Morning VietNam!!!!

I do love the smell of napalm in the morning.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   8:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#373. To: mcgowanjm (#358)

CM: The propaganda cover-up of the Battle of Baghdad, what we call BOBCUP (Battle of Baghdad Cover-up) was so conspicuously against the United States principles of information...

Thanks Jim. I hate to ask - who is CM?

Did you read about the Arkansas football coach Petrino? What a stud!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-06   9:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#374. To: mcgowanjm (#371)

And I KNEW from DAY 1 of Reagan's Election that Democracy was dead

Two points.

1. We are not a democracy. 2. Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century. A real patriot and a real good man.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-06   9:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#375. To: All (#372) (Edited)

While we're waiting, a little somethin' soemthin'....'}

What you wanna bet that these students will STILL be held liable for these 'loans':

" What's worse than graduating college with a beaucoup load of student loans? Having your college close abruptly leaving you with nothing to show for a beaucoup load of student loans. Here is InsideNOVA.com with the details:

Dreams were broken and students were left with crushing debt and nothing to show for it after ACT College abruptly closed its doors Tuesday.-billhicksisdead

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#376. To: A K A Stone (#374) (Edited)

Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century. A real patriot and a real good man.

I knew the instant the Iranians released the hostages during Raygun's Inauguration that the fix was in.

PATCO's destruction sealed the deal and then raygun was shot by bush41's best friend's son not two months later.

The bush Dynasty continued it's ascent.

The only good thing about Reagan was Volker and bush/Greenspan put an end to him right quick. And then bush41 takes over.

Gawd, how many times did Reagan say 'I don't know' about IranContra until at the End he actually got Alzheimers and truly did not know...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#377. To: Fred Mertz (#373)

CM would be Captain May

# 3/7 Cavalry, Tragedy and Travesty By Captain Eric H May www.ccun.org/.../3-7%20Cavalry,...Cached

Apr 18, 2011 – US Foreign Policy (Dr. El-Najjar's Articles) · www.aljazeerah.info. 3/7 Cavalry, Tragedy and Travesty. By Captain Eric H May, Ghost Troop CO ...

Ghost Troop: The Art of Info-War | Veterans Today www.veteranstoday.com/201...he-art-of-info-war/Cached

May 14, 2011 – Commanded by Captain Eric H. May, Ghost Troop consists of current and past high-level military .... So that became Ghost Troop, 3/7 Cavalry.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#378. To: All (#377)

Here's Ghost Troop (part of it):

CPT Korn, Edward J. UNIT:4-64 AR, 2 HBCT FROM: Savannah, GA KIA: 3 April 03

Story of death makes zero sense. See above posts. Was on a Thunder Run to divert pressure from the Baghdad Airport.

The rest. Attn. Military site, lots of color. Takes a while to load but worth it.

www.stewart.army.mil/warrWalk/default.asp

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#379. To: mcgowanjm (#376)

I knew the instant the Iranians released the hostages during Raygun's Inauguration that the fix was in.

They knew Carter was a chump. They were afraid of Reagan.

You didn't "know" anything. You just had one of those famous hunches of yours. You know like the real off base hunch that Florida would have to be evacuated.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-06   10:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#380. To: A K A Stone (#379)

They knew Carter was a chump. They were afraid of Reagan.

As we now know, Reagan paid them off.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-06   10:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#381. To: lucysmom (#380)

As we now know, Reagan paid them off.

We don't know that. Because it isn't true. We do know that you lie though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-06   10:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#382. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone, All (#380)

They knew Carter was a chump. They were afraid of Reagan.

As we now know, Reagan paid them off.

Yes, A K A, we Do know this.

Because the October (bush, tower, heinz-Paris, FR) Surprise is the start of IranContra.

And Clinton's impeachment is a direct result of his not pursuing bush41's blanket pardon/amnesty of Weinberger, Schultz as his last act of POTUS.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   11:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#383. To: All (#382)

According to some accounts, the US soldiers were targeted after they left their base to explore the town’s municipal park. Other reports, however, indicated that the bomber’s target was a meeting of Afghan officials taking place nearby.

The Taliban claimed credit for the attack and quoted residents as saying that after the bombing US soldiers opened fire on civilians, killing one and wounding several.

Reuters quoted Faryab’s provincial police chief, Abdul Khaliq Aqsai, as saying that the American soldiers were taking photographs in the park when they were attacked. "We warned them not to roam around the city," Aqsai told the news agency.

The police chief said witnesses reported that the bomber walked right up to the troops, shouted "Allahu Akbar" (God is greatest) and detonated his explosives.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   11:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#384. To: mcgowanjm (#376)

The only good thing about Reagan was Volker and bush/Greenspan put an end to him right quick. And then bush41 takes over.

Gawd, how many times did Reagan say 'I don't know' about IranContra until at the End he actually got Alzheimers and truly did not know...;}

He was the most ignorant of the inner workings of his own administration of any president in my lifetime.

And what now seems typical of a 2 term Republican president, created a nationwide financial meltdown.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-06   11:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#385. To: A K A Stone (#379)

They knew Carter was a chump. They were afraid of Reagan.

And UR serious.

Carter was the last attempt to set Amerika to deal with Peak Oil.

Reagan authorized the creation of $1.7 Quadrillion in debt Derivatives.

As my Senator D Bumpers stated:

"You let me write bad checks for $2.1 Trillion and I can show everyone a good time too."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   11:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#386. To: mcgowanjm (#385)

Carter was the last attempt to set Amerika to deal with Peak Oil.

Is it any wonder he had to go?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-06   11:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#387. To: lucysmom (#386)

Is it any wonder he had to go?

Notice in Every POTUS 'collection' photo.

Carter is as far from bush41 as possible.

And separates himself from the others....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   11:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#388. To: All (#387)

It’s Not Over: Government Plans for the Worst: Forced Evacuation of Tokyo Mac Slavo April 3rd, 2012 SHTFplan.com Comments (129)

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While it has for the most part disappeared from mainstream view, the Fukushima nuclear disaster is anything but over. In fact, the situation in Japan has gone from bad to worse.

Bottom line: There is no way to contain the radiation.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   11:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#389. To: A K A Stone, All (#388)

Time's up.

>ABCNews.com> GMA>Pat Tillman: Full Coverage Pat Tillman's First Mission Was Jessica Lynch Rescue

abcnews.go.com/GMA/PatTil...-details/story?id=8536693

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   12:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#390. To: All (#389) (Edited)

And Tokio should be evac'ed now because the story is a limited hangout.

Why?

The SFP(MOX) of Reactor 3 has already been blown away...

"Even more alarming is that the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and other agencies have warned that the nuclear storage pools (the containment units that are being used to cool the nuclear fuel) have been damaged and may collapse under their own weight.

Such an event would cause widespread nuclear fallout throughout the region and force the government to evacuate the nearly 10 million (and that's 36 million;) residents of Tokyo and surrounding areas, a scenario which government emergency planners are now taking into serious consideration.

Leading Japanese newspaper The Mainichi Daily News reports:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   12:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#391. To: mcgowanjm (#387)

Carter is as far from bush41 as possible.

The Bush/Cheney administration wasted no time in attacking Carter's energy policy even though Carter hadn't been president for 20 years.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-06   12:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#392. To: mcgowanjm (#370)

Access the open source AARs and also news reports for Jessica Lynch

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-06   12:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#393. To: redleghunter (#392)

Access the open source AARs and also news reports for Jessica Lynch

Give me the URL.

I don't have time to do your research....thanx

7 killed in NATO tanker blaze in south Afghanistan Fri Apr 6, 2012 5:16AM GMT At least seven people have died in a blaze after a NATO supply vehicle transporting fuel for US-led forces in Afghanistan crashed and burst into flames in the country's troubled southern province of Kandahar.

www.presstv.ir/detail/234819.html

Looks like all our troops will be walking to do their 'nightly neighborhood watches....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   12:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#394. To: lucysmom (#391)

The Bush/Cheney administration wasted no time in attacking Carter's energy policy even though Carter hadn't been president for 20 years.

And I bet bush41 loves to dis JFK as well....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   12:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#395. To: mininggold (#384)

He was the most ignorant of the inner workings of his own administration of any president in my lifetime.

The only good thing about Reagan is that he hated bush41...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   12:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#396. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Wonder how many helos we have left in the Afghans....

Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:38AM GMT Share15 Share | Email | Print A US helicopter has crashed in Afghanistan’s northern province of Baghlan, leaving casualties behind, according to Afghan officials, Press TV reports.

That's one version.

This one has more of the ring of truth to it though...

US invaders helicopter shot down in Baghlan Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Friday, 14 Jamadil Awal 1433 Friday, 06 April 2012 17:27

BAGHLAN, Apr. 06 – A news report says Friday that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate brought down a US helicopter in Pul-e-Khumri later this afternoon at about 5:00 p.m. local time.

A Mujahideen’s official said the helicopter was hovering overhead in an attempt to surveil and gather intelligence as it came under fire by Mujahideen causing the fall down with all its crew members being killed.

The crash scene was cordoned off and surrounded by the enemy in a warning not to get any closer.

More detail...;}

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5Qj3Jex4FgA/T3rx7hQ2r0I/AAAAAAAAClw/MpUZFNSO5vY/s400/Screen+shot+2012-04-03+at+8.49.00+AM.png

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-07   11:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#397. To: mcgowanjm (#385)

Carter was the last attempt to set Amerika to deal with Peak Oil.

Carter was a dumb ass. Not as much so as Obama, but a dumb ass nevertheless.

Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century. The only good democrat of the 20th century was Kennedy. And he wasn't that good. Just in comparison to other democrats.

The democrat party is the party of perverts, drug attics, dead beats, child molesters and faggots. It is the party of losers and dumb asses.

And you spelled America wrong.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-07   11:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#398. To: mininggold (#384)

He was the most ignorant of the inner workings of his own administration of any president in my lifetime.

You are probably the second most ignorant poster on the site. Maybe the first. Uninformed, forked tongue speaking, hypocrite, on your knees for Obama.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-07   11:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#399. To: mcgowanjm (#395)

The only good thing about Reagan is that he hated bush41...;}

Yeah I always wondered what they had on Reagan to insure the Bush dynasty had a seat at the table. Oh that's right, Bush 41 kept the Panama canal safe for world commerce. He was owed!

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-07   11:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#400. To: A K A Stone (#398) (Edited)

You are probably the second most ignorant poster on the site. Maybe the first. Uninformed, forked tongue speaking, hypocrite, on your knees for Obama.

It's called giving my opinion, numby. Like you fundies, all it requires is faith amid life's experiences.

So are you playing Grand Inquisitor again today? You missed your calling by a few centuries.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-07   11:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#401. To: mininggold (#400)

It's called giving my opinion, numby. Like you fundies, all it requires is faith amid life's experiences.

So are you playing Grand Inquisitor again today? You missed your calling by a few centuries.

I'm just giving my opinion too. Only difference is mine is based on facts yours is fantasyland random thoughts you make up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-07   11:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#402. To: mininggold (#399)

Yeah I always wondered what they had on Reagan to insure the Bush dynasty had a seat at the table.

Their was no Bush Dynasty at the time. So your point is silly.

You are right that the House of Bush is not our friend. I'll give you that one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-07   11:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#403. To: A K A Stone (#0)

But seriously, we have really reached a pretty grim point when the court that is supposed to be protecting our rights under the Constitution, and the president, who is supposed to uphold and defend that document, collude in saying that once a person has been taken into custody by police, she or he really has no rights. The 4th Amendment about being "secure in your person"? Forget it. The cops can now strip you, grope you, check your butthole and humiliate you all they want, even if you are innocent of any charge. And by the way, they can lock you up with hardened convicts and hold you after they do that, until you get a lawyer or post bail. No "cruel and unusual punishment"? Well, I think most people would agree that getting stripped and intimately searched by some leering cop when you hadn’t done anything would qualify as punishment, and it certainly is cruel, so the Eighth Amendment is in the toilet too. (We already knew the First Amendment -- the one about freedom of speech and assembly and the right to petition over grievances -- was toast. Just ask Mayor Mike Bloomberg or any of the other mayors who ordered the brutal crushing of dozens of Occupation encampments over the past half year.)-stephen lendman blog

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-08   8:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#404. To: All (#403) (Edited)

Their business model is grand theft. They're crime families, not legitimate enterprises. They make money by stealing it. They wreck economies, communities, and households. Corrupt politicians let them. They're bribed to go along. As bad as things are, they're getting worse.

On April 5, The New York Times headlined, "Obama Signs Bill to Promote Start-Up Investments," saying:

Surrounded by complicit lawmakers and industry crooks, Obama signed the JOBS Act. He called it a "potential game changer." The Times article went along with the charade.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-08   8:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#405. To: All (#404)

It’s possible that the current hype about oil ‘shortages’ and reserve-tapping is designed to both push its price up and nip any panicky market selling in the bud. (See Slogpost last week on the oil ‘price’ scam).

Looking back now to laugh out loud at the pathetic confidence of 2006, by comparison what we have in the West today is a much greater dilution of currencies than most people expected, far more notional obligations than most people realised, and collapsed house values about to fall off a cliff. House prices continue to head south in the States; and no US economic recovery has ever been managed without a recovery in the domestic property market. All of us are left with a dearth of confidence, the unhappy victims of a profusion of confidence tricksters.

So, what most people in their right minds recognise is that we’re going to have stagflation in the West – that is, flat or declining economic output alongside rising living costs. And economically, we have what you might call an investment gap: less real-value money to stimulate economies, and less oilco money going into tapping reserves.

Unless somebody can find a way to plug the gap that doesn’t involve can-football, we will spiral into the worst slump the world has ever witnessed….one in which nobody buys or sells anything, every sovereign is bankrupt, no asset is worth even a row of beans, society breaks down, and the neighbours will be on the barbecue just as soon as we can raise the £5.5M for a bag of charcoal.

Under this scenario, a ‘Global Spring’ takes place…with all the unpleasant consequences that we’ve seen in North Africa. Because when you indulge in believing Friedmanite bollocks about wealth trickling, what happens is an ever-broadening concentration of wealth in a few hands. And when you let bankers invent money to enrich themselves at no advantage whatsoever to the real economy, the other 93% get wiped out financially. And both those things make any kind of meaningful economic recovery impossible.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-08   9:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#406. To: All (#405) (Edited)

Palmer: "People have got to think: do you WANT to live in a country run by the government?" Interviewer: "Has this ever happened before?" Palmer: "It happened once, but we fixed it. We got rid of it."

"It’s cars versus jobs and people.

Car is winning today but will ultimately lose.

Purposeful deflation is energy conservation by other means.

This is not completely arbitrary as the conservation impulse is not optional. It will be enforced by events or otherwise. There is nothing that can be done to stop or slow conservation. It is driven by entropy which is a physical law. Instead of jettisoning car industry and keeping the EU, the union jettisons Greece to keep the car industry. The EU stupidly thinks the crisis is ‘fixed’. Next up is Spain on the chopping block. At some point Germany exits the EU which is destroyed: at the end of the day there is no EU and no car industry, either.

www.economic-undertow.com...ect-failure-of-economics/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-08   9:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#407. To: mcgowanjm (#403)

I consider 98 percent of cops to be pigs.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-08   9:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#408. To: A K A Stone (#407)

Pigs, Dogs, Sheep Pink Floyd

Pigs (Three Different Ones) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig...ree_Different_Ones)Cached - Similar

"Pigs (Three Different Ones)" is a song from Pink Floyd's 1977 album Animals. In the album's three parts, "Dogs", "Pigs", and "Sheep", pigs represent the people ...

Pink Floyd: Animals www.ingsoc.com/waters/personal/justinh.htmlCached - Similar

Pink Floyd is one of the most recognized bands in the world, whether you love them or hate them ... In Floyd's version the people are either Dogs, Pigs, or Sheep.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-08   10:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#409. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Historic High gas prices.

I don't know about elsewhere, but Tulsa, NWArk are experiencing the highest gas ever now.

"The project of the American suburbs is the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of the world." - James Kunstler

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   7:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#410. To: All (#409) (Edited)

I remember the first time they did this.

It made int'l news. Today, not so much.

And I guarantee that Al Qaeda had nothing to do with it....;}

Egypt-Israel gas pipeline targeted for 14th time A pipeline delivering gas from Egypt to Israel burns following an attack near the town of al-Arish in the northern Sinai, September 27, 2011. Mon Apr 9, 2012 3:38AM GMT

An Egyptian pipeline supplying gas to the Israeli regime and Jordan has once again been hit by a major explosion, which is the fourteenth attack on the energy link since January 2011.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   8:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#411. To: All (#410)

Latest Gallup poll.

Do you think Israel is a friend of the United States?

LMFAO. In your dreams....8D

The initial conflict, centered on so-called military objectives (scientific research facilities), will spread rapidly to economic targets, or what US and Israeli military strategists refer to as “dual civilian-military” targets. This would include oil fields, highways, factories, communications networks, television stations, water treatment facilities, reservoirs, power stations and administrative offices, such as the Defense Ministry and headquarters of the Republican Guard. Iran, faced with imminent destruction of its entire economy and infrastructure (which occurred in neighboring Iraq with the unprovoked US invasion of 2003), would retaliate by blocking the Straits of Hormuz and sending short range missiles in the direction of the principle oil fields and refineries of the Gulf States including Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, a mere 10 minute distance, crippling the flow of oil to Europe, Asia and the United States and plunging the world economy into deep depression.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   8:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#412. To: All (#411)

It should not be forgotten that the Iranians are probably more aware than anyone in the region of the total devastation suffered by Iraqis after the US invasion, which plunged that nation into total chaos and devastated its advanced infrastructure and civilian administrative apparatus, not to mention the systematic obliteration of its highly educated scientific and technical elite. The waves of Mossad-sponsored assassinations of Iranian scientists, academics and engineers are just a foretaste of what the Israelis have in mind for Iran ’s outstanding scientists, intellectuals and highly skilled technical workers. Iranians should have no illusions about the Americans and Israelis who seek to thrust Iran into the brutal dark ages of Afghanistan and Iraq .

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   8:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#413. To: mcgowanjm (#412)

Iran is threatening to nuke Israel. They have repeatedly threatened to wipe Israel off the map. It is Iran that will be conquered. Not Israel.

The Isralis are good people. The muslim inhabitants of the middle east are not.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-09   8:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#414. To: A K A Stone (#413)

Iran is threatening to nuke Israel.

With what.

And you need to stopp reading those MossadAl Qaeda sites like debka....

Israel's the first terrorist state.

Obama Threatens War

President Obama has stepped up the rhetoric against Iran with an offer to "negotiate". His offer is no offer at all, it is a demand to surrender. There will be nothing left to "negotiate" if Iran accepts the offer. This is what Obama demands before "negotiation" begins.

* Immediately close and dismantle a recently completed nuclear facility deep under a mountain

* Give up and ship out of the country its stockpile of uranium enriched to 20 percent purity

* Halt all enrichment even though enrichment to 5 percent does not pose a risk

* Allow inspectors full access to all Iranian sites

* Allow inspectors access to key nuclear scientists even though many Iranian scientists have been killed

The New York Times reports U.S. Defines Its Demands for New Round of Talks With Iran

You want WWIII? Do it. Attack. First one to do it, loses.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   8:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#415. To: All (#414)

Everyone's ready.

Thirdly, Israel ’s principle allies, especially the US and the EU, will be severely strained as they are dragged into Israel ’s war and find themselves defending the straits of Hormuz, their army garrisons in Iraq and Afghanistan , and their oil fields and military bases in the Gulf.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   8:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#416. To: All (#415)

www.economic-undertow.com...-registrations-040512.png

Figure 1: EU auto registrations for the past year (from ACEA). It is possible that registrations might recover, but hardly likely when consuming countries such as Spain and Italy are now on the euro credit stringency chopping block. The demand for fuel in peripheral countries is removed. This is done by creditors cutting off peripheral access to euro-denominated credit. Those remaining with credit have the means to then ‘import’ Spanish- and Italian domestic fuel demand for themselves without any monetary or credit penalties.

It’s cars versus jobs and people. Car is winning today but will ultimately lose.

Purposeful deflation is energy conservation by other means.

This is not completely arbitrary as the conservation impulse is not optional. It will be enforced by events or otherwise. There is nothing that can be done to stop or slow conservation. It is driven by entropy which is a physical law.

www.economic-undertow.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   9:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#417. To: All (#415) (Edited)

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

A deliberately planted home-made gas canister gutted the Ministry of Administrative Reform’s ground floor offices in the Neos Kosmos district of Athens earlier this morning (Monday).

The MAR has been the focal point of delivering the Troika’s sweeping reform programme. The bomb, which exploded at 1.50 am local time, also destroyed three cars.

The modus operandum – propane gas canisters – is the same as that used in the bomb that exploded outside the office of former prime minister Costas Simitis six days ago. But although the two attacks may have a single source, nobody has, as yet, claimed responsibility.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   9:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#418. To: All (#417)

Sony To Axe 10,000 Employees Monday, 09 April 2012 02:18 Brandon Smith

This is just the beginning folks. With Sony's recent announcement of downsizing right on top of Yahoo's cuts, and the recent U.S. jobs report which was far below mainstream expectations, we are now seeing the initial stages of the next economic drop. The effects of the fiat money train have subsided, and the reality of the dismal global economy is taking hold once again. Watch for an accelerated and very visible downturn in the coming months...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   9:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#419. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Meanwhile, deleveraging of household balance sheets since the high debt levels of 2007 has been mild. The result is yet another way to see how deeply consumer demand is restrained: there’s not enough work to both pay down debt, and restart consumption.

Until the US confronts the reality of health care costs, and the outstanding debt levels of households, there should be little expectation that sectors like housing will see much of any recovery. While its true that reduced consumption more generally, compared to the excesses of the past few decades, is a long-overdue change that the US economy sorely needs, it is also true that any desired shift to a more productive economy in which output rises faster than consumption will not likely occur on the back of part-time work. It sounds so boring to say: the US economy needs a return of high-paying, full-time jobs. If this does not occur soon, the associated political unease will continue to fester and a new conversation about health-care policy, one that is less partisan(?), will have to ensue.

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http://earlywarn.blogspot.com/2012/04/p">earlywarn.blogspot.com/2012/04/

The above shows the unemployment rate for the five "PIIGS" countries. The data (from Eurostat) begin in 2005 and run through Feb 2012 except for Greece which only goes to Dec 2011.

None of these countries have put their troubles behind them. You can argue that Ireland appears to have at least stabilized its unemployment rate. The rest all appear to be worsening - Greece, Spain, and Portugal are all deteriorating at fairly dramatic rates. These countries are in the grip of an event on the scale of the Great Depression.

These countries are in the grip of an event on the scale of the Great Depression.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   10:20:13 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#420. To: A K A Stone (#413)

They have repeatedly threatened to wipe Israel off the map.

And that's Mossad BS as well.

The threat is to take out Zionism.

Big difference.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   11:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#421. To: All (#420) (Edited)

We have some time left before the ultimate fate is visible to all. Ten minutes after the collision, the Titanic's passengers had 2 hours and 30 minutes before the "unsinkable" ship sank. How much time we have left is unknown, but the bow of the ship will be visibly settling into the icy water within a year or two--and perhaps much sooner.

- a dangerous meme will go forth across the internet, and this meme will say: Millennials, renounce your college loans and set yourselves free! And then something truly marvelous will happen. They will at once disempower the swindling generation of their fathers, teachers, loan officers, and overlords and quite possibly bring on, at long last, the epochal collision of pervasive American control fraud with the hard hand of reality.

I think this will happen, and I would venture even to set the meme loose here and now and watch it go viral. The college loan racket has been an even more cynical enterprise than the mortgage racket was because so many people who ought to have known better, people of supposed intelligence such as college deans, cabinet secretaries, and think-tank Yodas, all colluded to support the false promise that the gigantic cargo cult of higher ed would keep churning out fresh careers forever - when the truth was that the entire groaning vessel of hopes and dreams was already under water and sinking into the eternal darkness.

kunstler.com/blog/2012/04/strange-jubilee-1.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   11:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#422. To: mcgowanjm (#420)

And that's Mossad BS as well.

The threat is to take out Zionism.

Big difference.

Well put.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-09   11:21:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#423. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The first sign of AgitProp is when you' re first told of the 'problem' is when you're told it's been destroyed or never existed in the first place:

" The petroleum age is just beginning

BY DAVID DEMING | Published: April 7, 2012 Oklahoman Comment on this article 35

Peak Oil is the theory that the production history of petroleum follows a symmetrical bell-shaped curve. Once the curve peaks, decline is inevitable. The theory is commonly invoked to justify the development of alternative energy sources that are allegedly renewable and sustainable. NewsOK Related Articles

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It's time to consign Peak Oil theory to the dust bin of history.

Read more: newsok.com/the-petroleum-...cle/3664151#ixzz1rbE8NZcy

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   22:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#424. To: mcgowanjm (#423)

theory

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-09   22:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#425. To: A K A Stone (#424)

The first time you're told this 'theory' exists is when you're also told it's not true.

So why even talk about it?...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   22:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#426. To: mcgowanjm (#425)

There is plenty of oil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-09   22:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#427. To: A K A Stone (#424)

theory

peak energy in the news: Can overconfidence be overcome in advance? Richard Vodra, ASPO-USA

What seems to be missing from the coming New York Times energy conference is a sense of skepticism about the underlying assumptions for energy sufficiency in the decades to come. The agenda, speakers, and likely attendees remind one of what a shipboard symposium might have been like on the future of trans-Atlantic shipping held in the salon of the Titanic exactly one hundred years earlier. Maybe it’s inevitable that the hard questions won’t be entertained until the disaster occurs and we realize there aren’t enough lifeboats.

www.aspo-usa.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   22:19:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#428. To: A K A Stone (#426)

There is plenty of oil.

O yeah. More than humans will ever use.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   22:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#429. To: mcgowanjm (#428)

O yeah. More than humans will ever use.

Yes.

At Armageddon there are jets flying. So there is still oil or some alternative.

We will be ok.

Sometimes I think you work for big oil and you are just trying to scare up prices.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-09   22:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#430. To: A K A Stone (#429) (Edited)

So there is still oil or some alternative.

We will be ok.

Sometimes I think you work for big oil and you are just trying to scare up prices.

There is no alternative for oil.

There is zero way I can scare up prices faster than 'Israel wants to attack Iran'.

Just no way...;}

"It is a game that children usually love and that can last quite some time if the garden is big and the bunny has been a little mean in hiding the eggs in difficult places.

A curious facet of the Easter Egg hunt is that it looks a little like mineral prospecting. With minerals, just as for eggs, you need to search for hidden treasures and, once you have discovered the easy minerals (or eggs), finding the well hidden ones may take a lot of work. So much that some eggs usually remain undiscovered; just as some minerals will never be extracted.

Now, if searching for minerals is similar to searching for Easter Eggs, perhaps we could learn something very general if we try a little exercise in model building. We can use system dynamics to make a model that turns out to be able to describe both the Easter Eggs search and the common "Hubbert" behavior of minerals production. The exercise can also tell us something on how system dynamics can be used to make "mind sized" models (to use an expression coined by Seymour Papert). So, let's try.....

cassandralegacy.blogspot....ert-and-easter-bunny.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   22:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#431. To: A K A Stone (#0)

See, the problem for the USSA/Israel is that we haven't gone to war with a CeasarKilling nation since 1945.

Police actions have actually weakened us.

Tehran has cut oil supply to Spain

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-10   10:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#432. To: Fred Mertz (#373)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-10   18:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#433. To: A K A Stone (#429)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-10   18:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#434. To: mininggold (#422)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-10   18:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#435. To: A K A Stone (#429)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-10   18:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#436. To: redleghunter, mininggold (#434)

I bet she hates the Dukes of Hazard. Say it aint so ming.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-10   19:03:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#437. To: A K A Stone, redleghunter (#436)

I bet she hates the Dukes of Hazard. Say it aint so ming.

He mocks Jesus while claiming to be a Christian so I don't put much stock in what he says about other stuff. I do prefer Challengers though.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-10   19:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#438. To: mininggold (#437)

He mocks Jesus while claiming to be a Christian so I don't put much stock in what he says about other stuff. I do prefer Challengers though.

;}

"Inordinate power in finance begets great wealth inequality. Deals are consummated behind closed doors, and the sole motive is profit. If some benefits should trickle down to the "little people" who live far down the line, that was only a happy accident. The workings of Adam Smith's "invisible hand" are increasingly harder to discern. Big Finance set free from reasonable constraints on its behavior is among the most undemocratic of human institutions. In addition to great power and wealth, it is exclusivity which defines the banking world. To paraphrase George Carlin, it's a big club and we're not in it."

That jesus would be/is totally freaked out is the sine quo non hypocrisy of this entire cluster fu ck.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-10   21:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#439. To: Fred Mertz, All (#438)

Our coach just got fired.

No buy out clause. No nothin'.

My bro says he's headed back to Kentucky. Watch for him.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-10   21:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#440. To: mcgowanjm (#439)

Our coach just got fired.

Yer kiddin me.

I believe you of course.

He'll land somewhere good. He's an excellent coach - got Arkansas into the top 5.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-10   21:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#441. To: A K A Stone (#0)

DATE LAT LON MAG DEPTH km REGION

11-APR-2012 10:43:09 0.77 92.45 8.2 16.4 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATERA

11-APR-2012 09:27:56 1.28 91.73 6.0 9.8 NORTH INDIAN OCEAN

11-APR-2012 08:38:38 2.35 93.07 8.7 33.0 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATERA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-11   7:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#442. To: Fred Mertz (#440)

He'll land somewhere good. He's an excellent coach - got Arkansas into the top 5.

Don't lie to your boss when you know the lie won't last a week....;}

O, and make sure your mistress is not your state employee, that you yourself hired.....;}

Petrino left $20 million on Arkansas' table.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-11   7:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#443. To: mcgowanjm (#441)

Tsunami times:

TRINCONMALEE LK 8.6N 81.2E 1116Z 0.04M / 0.1FT 18MIN

COCOS ISLAND AU 12.1S 96.9E 1102Z 0.08M / 0.3FT 18MIN

TELUKDALAM ID 0.6N 97.8E 1045Z 0.19M / 0.6FT 10MIN

SABANG ID 5.8N 95.3E 1010Z 0.36M / 1.2FT 06MIN

MEULABOH ID 4.1N 96.1E 1007Z 1.06M / 3.5FT 12MIN

DART 23401 8.9N 88.5E 0956Z 0.03M / 0.1FT 06MIN

ptwc.weather.gov/ptwc/?re...SUIOX.2012.04.11.1151&obs


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-11   8:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#444. To: hondo68 (#443)

These two were not aftershocks.

Japan should expect one like this within a couple of years.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-11   9:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#445. To: All (#444) (Edited)

These two were not aftershocks.

Japan should expect one like this within a couple of years.

Nuclear Expert: Spent Fuel Pool No. 4 likely to shatter or collapse onto its side in a M7.0 quake

# Radio Program on Units 3, 4: Whole Northern Hemisphere at risk right now -- Stor…

# Gundersen: No. 3 fuel pool worse off than No. 4 -- Mechanically it's rubble, the…

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-11   10:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#446. To: All (#445)

March 2012:

Hottest March on record. And by multiple degrees. Unheard of.

2012 on track for hottest year ever.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-11   11:09:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#447. To: A K A Stone (#0)

central bank manipulation is not a law of Nature, it is an artifice of increasingly marginal effectiveness.

when an empire can no longer afford to maintain control over its oldest and closest subject nations, that empire is circling the drain.

Watch Puerto Rico.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   9:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#448. To: A K A Stone (#0)

They, the Nuclear 'energy' community has been lying from day 1.

[PDF] Calorimetry has been routinely used at US and European facilities ... www.lanl.gov/orgs/n/n1/panda/10.%20Calorimetry.pdf

by DS Bracken

The rate of energy emission is equal to the product of the total decay ... resultant rise in the temperature of the calorimeter measurement well. ... portion of the neutrons will escape the calorimeter without depositing their kinetic energy. The ... A heat-flow calorimeter consists of a sample chamber insulated from a constant ...

By measuring the neutron emission rate they know exactly what the temp is and what is happening with the corium.

[quote]In fact, Mr Kimura called the main office of TEPCO in October and he told them that they should measure, interference evaluation as a guideline, the neutron emission rate near the reactor core.

The govt is aiming to bring the reactor temperature down within this year (2011).

But Mr Kimura said that unless TEPCO measures the neutron emission rate, reassurance offered by the government is nothing but the word [...]

HOST #2: I got goosebumps from the warning he made about the danger of tsunami and nuclear power station. I think he had an extremely accurate foresight and predicted the danger of the accident. I am so shocked.[/quote]

enenews.com/ex-fukushima-...tepco-must-measure-neutro

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   9:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#449. To: All (#448)

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#450. To: A K A Stone (#0)

("Word of the deaths of officers will bring cheers at troop movies or in bivouacs of certain units," wrote Marine historian Col. Robert Heinl, Jr., in 1971. "In one such division... fraggings during 1971 have been authoritatively estimated to be running about one a week.")

Still, credit must be given. Increasingly poorly remembered, Vietnam is now one for the ages. After so many years, Afghanistan has finally emerged as a quagmire beholden to no other war. What an achievement! Our moment, Afghanistan included, has proven so extreme, so disastrous, that it’s finally put the unquiet ghost of Vietnam in its grave.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#451. To: All (#450) (Edited)

And here’s the miracle: it has all happened without anyone in Washington grasping the essence of that now-ancient defeat, or understanding a thing.

The "lessons of Vietnam," fruitlessly discussed for five decades, taught Washington so little that it remains trapped in a hopeless war on the Eurasian mainland, continues to pursue a military-first policy globally that might even surprise American leaders of the Vietnam era, has turned the planet into a "free fire zone," and considers military power its major asset, a first not a last resort, and the Pentagon the appropriate place to burn its national treasure.

After Vietnam, the U.S. at least took a few years to lick its wounds.

Tom Engelhardt, co-founder of the American Empire Project and the author of The American Way of War: How Bush’s Wars Became Obama’s as well as The End of Victory Culture, runs the Nation Institute's TomDispatch.com.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#452. To: mcgowanjm (#449)

If demand is down so sharply then why doesn't the price follow its trend?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-12   10:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#453. To: All (#451)

Iran cuts oil supplies to Germany 11 April 2012, 17:26 (GMT+05:00)

Azerbaijan, Baku, April 11 / Trend D.Khatinoglu /

Iran cut oil export to Germany after halting crude oil supplies to Spain and Greece in recent days, Press TV reported.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#454. To: Fred Mertz (#452)

If demand is down so sharply then why doesn't the price follow its trend?

Federal Reserve market animation. I used to say manipulation, but this 'turkey' died Thanksgiving 2011. And it's only a zombie now.

Note that Every time the commodities take a dive, they immediately get ramped back up.

With Deflation, the Central Banks are irrelevant. All they can do is talk, and devalue the currency.

And with the massive $1.7 Quadrillion in debt derivatives they can't even devalue anymore....at some point the zombie will just plunge to zero or lock up....anytime now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#455. To: Fred Mertz (#452)

If demand is down so sharply then why doesn't the price follow its trend?

If only speculators were required to take physical possession of their purchased commodity.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-12   10:55:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#456. To: All (#451)

The battles fought there (Virginia) after Grant took command of the Army of the Potomac were a close first approximation to the useless slaughter of the western front in the First World War, with one crucial difference: they weren’t useless, from Grant’s and the Union’s perspective, because they formed one part of a broader strategy.

Grant is said to have described that strategy in the homely language he preferred: “I’m going to hold the cat down, and Sherman is going to skin him.” That was exactly what happened, too. Grant’s job was to pin down Lee and the Army of Northern Virginia, respectively the Confederacy’s best general and its toughest army, so that neither one could be spared to the more vulnerable western front.

Meanwhile Grant’s opposite number, Gen. William T. Sherman, marched an army from Tennessee through Georgia to the sea, and then north through the Carolinas toward Virginia; his job was to shatter the Confederacy’s economic and agricultural systems, cripple its ability to feed and supply its armies, and make it impossible for the South to keep fighting.

That was why Sherman’s “bummers” stripped the country bare, leaving behind memories that are still bitter today, and it also explains a detail that rarely gets mentioned in any but the most technical histories of the Civil War: in the course of a months-long campaign that took him through the heartland of the Confederacy, Sherman fought only two significant battles.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#457. To: All (#456)

Grant got the glory, and earned it fairly, but Sherman may have been the 19th century’s most innovative military thinker.

When he came face to face with a Confederate army, whenever the strategic situation allowed, he evaded it, slipped past it, got behind it, and threatened its lines of communication and supply, forcing it to retreat in disarray.

Long before anyone else, he grasped that it’s not necessary to fight a pitched battle to win a war, and that a force that can move fast, get behind its enemy, and target the vulnerable territory behind the lines can cripple the ability of the other side to wage war at all.

Most of a century later, that approach to war came to be called “blitzkrieg;

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#458. To: All (#457)

...Finally, to guarantee all these things, the British government would have been forced to accept an occupying force in Britain, and permanent military bases would be signed over to the new imperial power in Britain and its remaining colonies. That, by and large, is what happened to defeated nations in the wars of the 19th and 20th centuries.

Now compare that list to the relations between Great Britain and the United States from 1945 to the present. That’s the thing that can’t be mentioned to this day in polite company: the British empire ended in the early 1940s when the United States conquered and occupied Britain.

It was a bloodless conquest, like the German conquest of Denmark or Luxembourg, and since the alternative was submitting to Nazi Germany, the British by and large made the best of it.

Still, none of Queen Victoria’s prime ministers would have tolerated for a moment the thought of foreign troops being garrisoned on British soil, which is where thousands of US military personnel are garrisoned as I write these words.

That’s only one of the lasting legacies of the Gasoline War.

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...america-gasoline-war.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   11:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#459. To: A K A Stone (#0)

pink slime & chicken nuggets....delicious.

www.bestfoodfacts.org/main/food_for_thought/0/108

""Pink Slime" in Chicken Nuggets? 02/22/2012

After an inquiry regarding mechanically separated chicken in chicken nuggets, we asked Dr. Casey Owens from the University of Arkansas for some clarification. She maintains that this is not the process used to make nuggets.

Best Food Facts: Why is mechanically separated chicken used?

Dr. Owens: "Mechanically separated chicken (MSC) contains proteins that are useful for other products. It takes on a fine, pasty texture, so it can be formed into a desirable shape. Consumers should note that products using MSC typically have a higher fat content."

Best Food Facts: In this video, the people say that the pink in the meat is from blood, that eyeballs are mixed into the paste, etc. What is the truth?

Dr. Owens: "First and foremost - there is NO chance of eyeballs being in the chicken, because the head is removed much earlier in the process. In the Jamie Oliver video, you can see there is no head on the chicken he presents to the children - the same is true in processing facilities. Mechanically separated chicken is made using the meat left after the breast meat and legs are removed - meat found between the ribs, near vertebrae, around joints, etc. as well as some fat, connective tissue and skin (if there is any that remains on the carcass). There will also be trace amounts of bone, which provide calcium - but bone content is monitored closely as only so much calcium is allowed in MSC. Lastly, some of the meat will appear darker in color becasue it either came from legs (dark meat) or is bone marrow (if bones are broken in the process, some marrow can come out)."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-13   9:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#460. To: All (#459) (Edited)

Without grinding, crushing or pulverizing the bone itself, a machine removes edible tissue from beef and pork bones. If the resulting bits have more than 150 mg of calcium per 100 grams (indicating the presence of bones) they must be labeled "mechanically separated" meat.

Tyson: We don't need no stinkin' inspectors cause all our chickens are safe to eat.

www.propublica.org/specia...ht-it-was-just-pink-slime

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-13   9:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#461. To: mininggold (#455)

If only speculators were required to take physical possession of their purchased commodity.

Then the markets (minus Federal Reserve) would not function.

Specs are lubricant/shock absorbers. Which is why volume is critical and why the Finnacial channels refuse to talk about Volume at all.

BTW, it's OK with me if the markets do not function.

They're zombies now anyway.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-13   10:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#462. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"In due course, their instinct for self-preservation will become suppressed, as other, opportunistic, idealistic or heroic motivations move to the forefront. The progression is the same everywhere: first the people ask, then they demand, then they come and they take. For now, talk of revolution is restricted to those, both in the West and in Russia, who use it to justify their budgets for fermenting or suppressing revolt, respectively. They are, in both cases, a waste of public money.

The Future is Ours!

But if this dynamic were allowed to develop, then much more would be lost. Under Putin, Russia has become more stable and more prosperous. The cities have become more vibrant, and life has become better for many people, not just the ones at the very top. In striking contrast to the USA or the European Union, Russia is solvent rather than bankrupt. Putin gets the credit for these achievements. The slogan of his "United Russia"—"The future is ours"—is overweening and pompous (and, inadvertently, reminiscent of the Third Reich!) but, in some part thanks to his efforts, Russia does have a discernible future in a way that the US and the EU do not.

The Future is... Oops!

Giv­en that this is the case, one would expect the more thoughtful people in the US and in Eu­rope to simply stand back and watch, hop­ing to learn some­thing. Yet mindsets are slow to change, and some of them are still op­erating with their illu­sions of impe­rial power intact. Some of them are seeing orange, and thinking that there might be an opening to smuggle a neocon like Gary Kasparov into the Kremlin. But to a great many Russians their ruse of promoting "freedom and democracy" is already transparent: what they want to do is to destroy Russia's sovereignty. They almost succeeded in destroying it in the 1990s; they won't get that chance again. Now is not their time to try to influence Russian politics; now is their time to shrivel up.

-Dmitry Orlov

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   8:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#463. To: All (#462)

On the other side of May 2005, the financial move to make is extinguishing debt....;}

"City alleges bank misrepresented risk By Brian Duggan - RGJ.com

Reno is suing Goldman Sachs, alleging fraud against one of Wall Street’s largest investment firms. The city claims Goldman persuaded Reno to issue $210 million in bonds in a specialized market that the bank claimed was safe even though it knew it could turn toxic.

Reno is seeking arbitration against the bank through the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, basically a private court for financial institutions.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   9:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#464. To: mcgowanjm (#462)

"United Russia"—"The future is ours"

New dissident crusher vehicle introduced for the D&R conventions...

This recently reorganized, months-old ICE Homeland Security Investigations (formerly known as ICE Office of Investigations) should really be on the radar of anyone because this year they are apparently 'filling in the gaps for the Secret Service' at NSSEs like G20, NATO summits and the Republican and Democratic national conventions. (unfortunately the Secret Service is now a part of DHS, not Treasury.) The Federal Protective Service, which likes to take photos around the Twin Cities (see my 2010 Fort Snelling Undercover Fail video, classic times) is now part of some weird directorate but briefly passed through ICE after being removed from the General Services Administration.

The HSI Special Response Teams are seemingly the top layer of a lot of things, from the war on terror / war on drugs motif, to the Super Bowl, to whatever the hell they are planning to do to immigrants [illegal alien invaders] on the I-5 near LA, which was where this pic was taken according to Copblock. ICE has a large number of staff on the Joint Terrorism Task Forces that do statistic-generating police state busywork around the country, and interestingly this HSI group is now officially becoming publicly distinguished from the rest of ICE -- and the theory of course is HSI would be spun out of ICE to become a freestanding 'directorate', a more modern and insane paramilitary FBI or whatever.

hongpong.com/archives/201...estigations-great-justice


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-14   9:27:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#465. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Targe wrote:Extinction Protocol is reporting that Russia is moving troops close to Iran border and may fight to defend it if West attacks.

I can't find any evidence of this on any other news site though.

http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress. ... an-border/

I've seen it.

The USSA/Israel/NATO/GCC can not attack Iran until it has both the Caucasus and the Syrian/Lebanon Coastlines secure.

Azerbaijan has stated that Israel can not use it's air bases. Turkey the same. Same with the Saudis. And Iraq.

Russian warships heading for Syria: Russian military source A Russian soldier is seen on Smetlivy warship (file photo) Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:35AM GMT Share20 A high-ranking source in the Russian defense ministry says several Russian warships are on their way to the Mediterranean Sea to guard Syrian coasts for the foreseeable future.

“A decision has been made to deploy Russian warships near the Syrian shores on a permanent basis,” the state-run RIA news agency quoted the source as saying on Friday.

The source added that the Russian destroyer Smetlivy, which is patrolling waters off Syria now, will be replaced by another warship from Black Sea Fleet in May.

The official says several warships are on their way to the Mediterranean.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   10:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#466. To: All (#465)

Israel’s supposed ‘left’ newspaper had a piece published today by their resident

right wing scholar, Avi Shavit. For years he has written critical articles about Israel’s zionist left, I imagine thinking of himself as an expert for simply sharing office space with a handful of them….. *

BUT,

* He always seems to be wrong about whatever topic he decides to write about. THIS article from +972 gives a pretty good picture of the man I am talking about and his writings.

* Today he outdid himself, both in literary style and content; in other words he has no idea what he is talking about. His article is based on the premise that Grass’ profound moral failure and the Zionist left’s profound failure to respond are a bad sign. They show that leading intellectuals in the West and Israel are no longer capable of defending Israel. Perhaps he should accept the fact that even the zionist left has opinions that differ from his own. Perhaps they are not defending Israel because Israel is WRONG. It’s mighty pompous of him to speak for a group that he obviously abhors. It’s also mighty confusing to try to understand why he is not on the payroll of the Jerusalem Post rather than HaAretz’s.

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com...th-in-gunter-grass-words/

nice to know that everyone in Israel understands that Jpost is a nazi rag....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#467. To: All (#466)

Print US helicopter crashes in Afghanistan US soldiers take positions after racing off the back of a UH-47 Chinook helicopter during an operation in Khost Province, Afghanistan. Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:18PM GMT Share120 LAST UPDATE An American helicopter belonging to the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) has crashed in troubled eastern Afghanistan, Press TV reports.

According to local Afghan officials, the chopper crashed on Thursday night in the country’s eastern province of Khost.

ISAF has also confirmed the incident. However, no further information has been released concerning the cause of the accident or possible causalities.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#468. To: All (#467)

Busy place, Khost....;}

"US spy drone goes down in eastern Afghanistan Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:0AM GMT Share An American spy drone has crashed in Ghazni province in the east of war-ravaged Afghanistan, Press TV reports.

www.presstv.ir/detail/236134.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#469. To: hondo68 (#464) (Edited)

This recently reorganized, months-old ICE Homeland Security Investigations (formerly known as ICE Office of Investigations) should really be on the radar of anyone because this year they are apparently 'filling in the gaps for the Secret Service' at NSSEs like G20, NATO summits and the Republican and Democratic national conventions. (unfortunately the Secret Service is now a part of DHS, not Treasury.)

They never did solve that ICE killing in LA couple months ago.

And ICE has been shown their place in the CartelGun Running/FBI Informants are Cartel Leaders Case.....;}

ICE in other words is just a fancy Federal MERc outfit, probably given orders by Blackwater/Xie/Acadamie MERCS.

And I'll look that up about the SS not being Treasury any more. The SS does not take orders from the FBI or anyone else.

But the SS does love it's Colombian booze and prostitutes....;}

Title: Breaking: Misconduct alleged against Secret Service agents Source: AP URL Source: hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... &SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Published: Apr 14, 2012 Author: JULIE PACE and FRANK BAJAK Post Date: 2012-04-14 10:43:00 by SJN

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=29399

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#470. To: All (#467)

According to local Afghan officials, the chopper crashed on Thursday night in the country’s eastern province of Khost.

ISAF has also confirmed the incident.

Helos are getting hard to come by in the Afghans.

Even further becausde high ranking officials are now making sure a X number is always OnStandBy for transport out of the country....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#471. To: hondo68 (#464)

Some Ecuadorian children, many of them indigenous, are subjected to forced labor and sex trafficking in Colombia. Illegal armed groups forcibly recruit children to join their ranks; an international organization estimates that at least 10,000 children participate in illegal armed groups. Members of gangs and organized criminal networks force relatives, acquaintances, and displaced persons – typically women and children – into conditions of sex trafficking and forced labor, including in the illegal drug trade. Colombia is a destination for foreign child sex tourists from the United States and Europe, particularly to coastal cities such as Cartagena and Barranquilla.

This is an embarrassment to the US on multiple levels. If the charges are true, DHS should be advertising for one or more open positions in the Secret Service.

Update: I had forgotten that the Secret Service was moved out of Treasury and into the Department of Homeland Security. I’ve corrected it above.

Update II: The shooting incident involved an agent from the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security, not the Secret Service. The Post included it because the agent was on the advance security team for Obama’s Asia summit, and I didn’t read it closely enough. Thanks to reader Marilu for the correction."

None of this alphabet soup knows their territory. You're looking at future gangs of the USSA....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#472. To: All (#471)

Assymmetric Secret Servicing Initiative: Obama's Colombia Visit Found To Subsidize Local Alternative Monogamy Market Tyler Durden's picture Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/13/2012 23:35 -0400

Obama may not be the most successful president when it comes to creating jobs at home, but when success is measured by the number of blowjobs outsourced abroad, he may be truly second to none, as his visit to Colombia proves before it has officially begun. According to the AP, "A dozen Secret Service agents sent to Colombia to provide security for President Barack Obama at an international summit have been relieved of duty because of allegations of misconduct." Relieved here being a perfectly randomly selected verb.

zerohedge.com

All joking aside, here is how Politico framed the 5 political benefits (with or without friends) that the Colombian visit was supposed to embiggen. We can probably trim that list to one: endless humor for the late night stand-up comedy circuit as well as hours of rhetorical poetry waxing by Obama's political adversaries.

www.zerohedge.com/news/ob...ternative-monogamy-market

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#473. To: mcgowanjm (#469)

But the SS does love it's Colombian booze and prostitutes....;}

I saw that story last night. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-14   11:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#474. To: Fred Mertz, mcgowanjm (#473) (Edited)

"One of the agents did not pay one of the prostitutes, and she complained to the police," Kessler said.

Read more: www.thebostonchannel.com/...detail.html#ixzz1s231EPAr

The whole scandal was exposed when the SS didn't pay one of the hookers, and she reported it to the local police.

Further evidence that the Obama administration abuses women. Deadbeat dicks.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-14   12:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#475. To: hondo68 (#474)

The whole scandal was exposed when the SS didn't pay one of the hookers, and she reported it to the local police.

Further evidence that the Obama administration abuses women. Deadbeat dicks.

Every day, Obama is acting more and more like a good capitalist.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-14   12:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#476. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Tet Offensive (Kabuk version) underway.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   8:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#477. To: mininggold, hondo68, All (#475)

It takes years for the Praetorian Guard to get compromised.

Note the total lack of connection with the 4 bombs exploded?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   8:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#478. To: mininggold (#475) (Edited)

Every day, Obama is acting more and more like a good capitalist.

From the moment he puts Geithner/Summers/Ruben/Dimon/Blankfein in place and signals the Military is good to go, a week after the election.....the only surprise is how craven the man is.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   8:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#479. To: hondo68 (#474)

The whole scandal was exposed when the SS didn't pay one of the hookers, and she reported it to the local police.

Further evidence that the Obama administration abuses women. Deadbeat dicks.

So, if the Secretly Serviced had only paid the woman, everything would've been A-OK?....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   8:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#480. To: All (#479)

This tells you everything you need to know about the state.

The fish head is rotten...long ago.

I don't think they have enough helos in Kabul to transport all the officials that will be hanged immediately after the US Ambassador leaves.

US Embassy under attack now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#481. To: All (#480)

Taliban Pakistan release 1200 prisoners.

Inspector General details troubling statistics

April 13, 2012

Each U.S. diplomat in Kabul is limited to no more than one bottle of hard liquor, three bottles of wine and two cases of beer per day.

This stunning information is contained in the report of the State Department’s Inspector General dated February 10, 2010 (report #ISP-I-10-32A). The findings were so controversial that the Inspector General felt compelled to conduct a follow-up inspection last year. In his updated report in June 2011, he vaguely found that some additional restrictions had been added, but he refused to list them, apparently because the alcohol limits per diplomat remain outrageously high. As our inquiry revealed, this is only the tip of the iceberg....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#482. To: All (#481)

#

1. Taliban launch raids on Kabul and other Afghan targets BBC News‎ - 3 hours ago The Taliban carry out co-ordinated attacks on embassies, parliament ... news agency reported that the newly built Kabul Star hotel was on fire.

1. Afghanistan attackers take over hotel, police say CNN International‎ - 2 hours ago

2. Taliban hits Afghan capital, other cities in rare coordinated attack Washington Post‎ - 30 minutes ago

# BREAKING NEWS - KABUL HOTEL UNDER TALIBAN GUNMEN ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:08:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#483. To: All (#482)

Wonder when we get a live feed from Kabul.

Combo of Sunday news embargo, and everyone in Kabul with their heads down and the USSA not in charge of the situation yet.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#484. To: All (#483)

Taliban’s Zabihullah Mujahiddd told Reuters that the attacks had been planned for months.

Witnesses said suicide bombers had taken over the newly-built Kabul Star hotel, which was reportedly on fire in an area which includes a major U.S. military base, the United Nations office and the presidential palace.

Several other attackers tried to enter the Afghan parliament but were engaged by security forces and driven back, an official said.

They had taken cover in a building near the parliament and fights were ongoing, parliamentary media officer Qudratullah Jawid told AFP.

Gunfire and explosions were reported from at least three areas of the capital, including the diplomatic enclave.

As the attacks began, several large explosions and bursts of gunfire were heard near the United States embassy.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/04/15/207881.html

Alarabiya's the USSA's Arab VOA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#485. To: All (#484)

HEY, I won the Google game.

Did you mean: Taliban’s Zabihullah Mujahid told Reuters that the attacks had been planned for months. Search Results

1. Kabul under gunfire and explosions, Taliban claim responsibility english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/04/15/207881.html You +1'd this publicly. Undo 2 hours ago – Taliban's Zabihullah Mujahiddd told Reuters that the attacks had been planned for months. Witnesses said suicide bombers had taken over the ...

The object of the game is to get just one hit from a search.....LMFAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#486. To: All (#485)

The militants also stormed the Star Hotel near Hamid Karzai’s residence in the capital.

All foreign embassies in Kabul, the NATO headquarters, and the presidential palace are on lockdown following the attacks.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#487. To: All (#486)

4/15/12 A very busy day in history.

From Dallas to Cartagena The plan is to draw out the negotiations with Iran until after the American Presidential election, at which point the Jew Jackboot won't be pressing on Obama's throat - he will no longer be dependent on their money to be reelected - and sensible, adult negotiations can reach a successful conclusion. Therefore, the Jews have to blow Barry's head clean off before November.

Barry's visiting Colombia.

Colombia is a hotbed of nefarious activities by 'ex' Israeli soldiers.

2007: "Colombia, Israel and rogue mercenaries"

2012: "Colombia: 8 Israelis suspected of drug trafficking"

Remember back in '63 when the ability of the Secret Service to protect JFK was compromised by arranging for them to drink late into the night at a Dallas nightclub?

"Misconduct alleged against Secret Service agents":

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#488. To: All (#487)

Google definitely filtering Kabul news.

economictimes.indiatimes..../articleshow/12675312.cms

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#489. To: All (#488)

Gunmen launched multiple attacks in the Afghan capital Kabul on Sunday, assaulting Western embassies in the heavily guarded, central diplomatic area and at the parliament in the west, witnesses and officials said.

The Taliban claimed responsibility, saying their main targets were the German and British embassies and the headquarters of Afghanistan's NATO-led force.

Taliban fighers had also launched assaults in two provinces, a spokesman for the insurgents said.

"We claim responsibility for these attacks," said Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid.

Attackers fired a rocket-propelled grenade into a house used by British diplomats in the city centre and smoke billowed from the building after the blast, a Reuters witness said.

Two rockets hit a British Embassy guard tower near the Reuters office in the city.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#490. To: Fred Mertz (#473)

I saw that story last night. I'm not sure what to make of it.

The Secret Service has been compromised.

I'm looking for who made the decision to move the SS out of the Treasury.

I did not know that til hondo told me yesterday.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#491. To: All (#490)

Gunfire came from various directions in the area, close to both the U.S. and British embassies, while smoke billowed from the nearby German embassy, the Reuters witnesses said.

Embassy alarms were sounding. Staff at the embassies were not available for comment.

Attackers also fired rockets at the parliament building, in the west of the city, and at the Russian embassy, a spokesman for the parliament said.

Afghan media said insurgents had stormed the Star Hotel complex near the presidential palace and the Iranian embassy and black smoke was pouring from the building.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#492. To: All (#491)

Staff at the embassies were not available for comment.

Then it's impossible to get a live feed.

The reporter has no one to tell him/her the USSA spin.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#493. To: mcgowanjm (#479)

So, if the Secretly Serviced had only paid the woman, everything would've been A-OK?....;}

They disrespected the ho's! Obumma lost the trust of the drug cartels, they're backing the other gay Marxist now, the one from Massachusetts.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-15   9:43:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#494. To: All (#492)

Karzai evacuated from Kabul Palace......

No. Not yet... ;}. But before Xmas....;}

insurgents had stormed the Star Hotel complex near the presidential palace and the Iranian embassy and black smoke was pouring from the building.

On the outskirts of the city, militants also targeted a Nato base known as Camp Warehouse with mortar fire, according to an AP reporter at the scene. Turkish and Greek forces at the base were responding with heavy-caliber machine gun fire.

Last week, Mujahid said in a statement that Taliban planners were preparing to launch a spring offensive. In a statement posted on a Taliban website on Thursday, he said Nato officials should have patience, because Taliban commanders would wait for the “appropriate time” to launch attacks.

Cool customers.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#495. To: hondo68 (#493)

They disrespected the ho's! Obumma lost the trust of the drug cartels, they're backing the other gay Marxist now, the one from Massachusetts.

That's just so mangled, it's actually almost true....;}

I'm looking at the ZETA's as the nextgen AZTECS...;}

The AZTECS only lost because they ran out of resources. And with PEMEX, the ZETA's got all they need.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#496. To: All (#495)

When the US Embassy in Mexico City comes under attack...

that'll be the USSA equivalent of the Brits getting kicked out of Dublin....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#497. To: All (#496)

The other assaults were in the capital cities of the provinces of Logar, Paktia and Nangarhar.

In the Logar province capital of Pul-e-Alam, provincial police chief Ghulam Shakhi said militants had entered a building that belongs to the education department, which is near a building used by the Afghan intelligence service, and a gunbattle was under way.

I don't even have my tv on. The USSAMedia is so sad.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#498. To: All (#497)

Nato said it was aware of reports of an explosion in the proximity of a coalition installation near Jalalabad, the provincial capital of Nangarhar, but could provide no details about the blast.

AP

That's the airport/base.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#499. To: mcgowanjm (#495)

Military ensnared in Colombia Secret Service scandal

CARTAGENA, Colombia — Five U.S. military members have been ordered confined to quarters over possible involvement in inappropriate conduct at the same hotel here as the 11 Secret Service personnel sent home in an unfolding scandal involving local prostitutes.

Making the announcement Saturday, United States Southern Command commander Gen. Douglas Fraser said he is “disappointed by the entire incident and that this behavior is not in keeping with the professional standards expected of members of the United States military.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75134.html#ixzz1s7QoBDi3


Don't ask, don't tell is still in effect, they're not saying which branch of the service they're in.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-15   10:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#500. To: A K A Stone (#0)

NBC's Akbar Shinawar in Kabul said the Taliban also claim to have attacked president Hamid Karzai's presidential palace compound, although that claim could not immediately be verified.

Maybre Karzai Is getting his helo ready...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   11:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#501. To: hondo68 (#499) (Edited)

Don't ask, don't tell is still in effect, they're not saying which branch of the service they're in.

I'm going with Navy....;}

4 bombs, two in Cartagena, two around the US Embassy in Bogota.

Someone's testing USSA Security Protocol....;}

'The most serious Security scandal in SS history.'

Ground Rules for Security Staff:

Rule 1: Do not...and I repeat...do not stiff a hooker.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   11:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#502. To: All (#501)

Fighting was going on at some facilities of NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and near the U.S., Russian and German embassies, ISAF said via Twitter.

Translation:

'We have no idea of what's happening, yet."

The Ultimate diss of USSAMedia:

KUNA (Kuwait News Agency):

'Waiting for Taliban to update casualty list.'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   11:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#503. To: mcgowanjm (#500)

Karzai Is getting his helo ready...;}

Headed to the Bush ranch in Paraguay.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-15   13:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#504. To: mcgowanjm (#481)

April 13, 2012

Each U.S. diplomat in Kabul is limited to no more than one bottle of hard liquor, three bottles of wine and two cases of beer per day.

These are limits? I'd call them excesses.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-15   16:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#505. To: Fred Mertz (#504)

I'd call them excesses.

No kidding!

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-15   17:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#506. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Good Morning, Kabul!!!! ;}

The truth replaced by silence is evil.

Turn on your TV now to see it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#507. To: lucysmom, Fred Mertz (#505)

I'd call them excesses.

No kidding!

I really think this is a back door way to get booze into the Afghans.

Liquor is against their religion.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#508. To: hondo68 (#503)

Karzai Is getting his helo ready...;}

Headed to the Bush ranch in Paraguay.

Paraguay, the new UN of the World.

All rich refugees represented.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#509. To: All (#502)

Fighting was going on at some facilities of NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and near the U.S., Russian and German embassies, ISAF said via Twitter.

Translation:

'We have no idea of what's happening, yet."

The Ultimate diss of USSAMedia:

KUNA (Kuwait News Agency):

'Waiting for Taliban to update casualty list.'

Robin 'Salute the Troops' Meade is an ignorant hypocrite.

not even thirty seconds this Monday AM Headline News.

And 1/2 of that is that the US has everything under control in Kabul.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....8D

Where to fu cking to start.

......as heavy fighting continued into Monday morning on the streets of the Afghan capital.

The USSA military/State Dept have learned absolutely ZERO from Vietnam...no....take that back....they've learned that the Vietnam Syndrome will not be allowed.

My Lai, the Tet Offensive and now 'Amb' Crocker stating on CNN (when he was on was at a weird time(probably 23 min after the hour;)to proclaim that 'the Taliban are great at making speeches but not so good at fighting'.

Our Head Afghan 'Diplomat' actually said that.....;}

Afghan lawmaker Shukria Barakzai told the BBC that she was sceptical about the ability of Afghan security forces to deal with insurgents without foreign support. She said she wanted "a clear answer" from the authorities about why it had taken so long to fight off the assault. Correspondents say the attacks have shattered the confidence of Afghans, as the insurgents have once more shown that they can strike right in the heart of Kabul.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#510. To: All (#509)

Even Here!!! LMFAO We go no where until we learn history.

And we haven't gone anywhere since 1975....

wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_co...he_US_win_the_Vietnam_War

Also to be considered is the role of the western media in turning American military victories into propaganda victories for the Communists, in enabling them to "win" the war, which war itself was tragic for both sides.

Underlying the importance of such is the often quoted exchange between Colonel Harry G. Summers, Jr. and his North Vietnamese counterpart, Colonel Tu. During one of his liaison trips to Hanoi, Colonel Harry told Tu, "You know, you never beat us on the battlefield," Colonel Tu responded, "That may be so, but it is also irrelevant." The success of the propaganda war has seemed enigmatic to many. "If there is to be an inquiry related to the Vietnam War, it should be into the reasons why enemy propaganda was so widespread in this country, and why the enemy was able to condition the public to such an extent that the best educated segments of our population (that is, media and university elite) gave credence to the most incredible allegations." (Final Report - Chief of Military History - U.S. Government)

British "Encounter" journalist Robert Elegant stated, "For the first time in modern history, the outcome of a war was determined not on the battlefield but on the printed page and television screens - never before Vietnam had the collective policy of the media sought, by graphic and unremitting distortion, the victory of the enemies of the correspondents own side." The most manifest example is this regard is seen as being the portrayal of the TET offensive, in which western media was charged with inspiring and aiding the propaganda war of the communists.

"The Tet Offensive proved catastrophic to our plans. It is a major irony of the Vietnam War that our propaganda transformed this debacle into a brilliant victory. The truth was that Tet cost us half our forces. Our losses were so immense that we were unable to replace them with new recruits." (Truong Nhu Tang - Minister of Justice - Viet Cong Provisional Revolutionary Government - The New York Review, October 21, 1982)

Read more: wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_co...Vietnam_War#ixzz1sCmUVRRh

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#511. To: All (#510)

Underlying the importance of such is the often quoted exchange between Colonel Harry G. Summers, Jr. and his North Vietnamese counterpart, Colonel Tu. During one of his liaison trips to Hanoi, Colonel Harry told Tu, "You know, you never beat us on the battlefield," Colonel Tu responded, "That may be so, but it is also irrelevant."

Even there. Where the military historians debate each other.

They TOTALLY miss the point of Colonel Tu.

The POINT:

That the Guerrilla War is NOt over until the guerrillas say it is!!!!!

What the USSA learned.

Replace the Truth with Silence. Say that Everything in Kabul is under control.

If we 'd done this in VietNam, we would've won.

Just Priceless Bull Shite.

The USSA will not know what hit it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#512. To: All (#511)

"My guess, based on previous experience here, is this is a set of Haqqani network operations out of north Waziristan and the Pakistani tribal areas," American Ambassador Ryan Crocker told CNN.

"Frankly I don't think the Taliban is good enough."

Right now I don't know if Crocker will make it out of the Afghans alive.

He believes his own bull shite.

The helo will be ready, but he'll say that the Taliban can't get him....

www.hindustantimes.com/wo...-day/Article1-841235.aspx

And of course any up to date info has to come from Anywhere but the USSA Media.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#513. To: All (#512)

Taliban 'spring offensive' rocks Afghanistan Western embassies and parliament attacked in biggest attack on Kabul since 2001, as security forces continue fightback. Last Modified: 16 Apr 2012 03:08

2001...2001...now what was happening in 2001 in the Afghans....;}

Must not have been much if the Last 18 hours means anything.

The USSAMEdia would've covered something like this non stop.

I think these foreign news agencies are just spreading enemy propaganda.

Like this guy thinks with his discussion of why the US did not win in Viet Nam:

"

The reality is the US decimated the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong; the latter not really being a true fighting force than a terror group, massacring women and children regularly to spread fear among South Vietnamese. The mission of the US and its allies was to contain North Vietnam and keep them out of South Vietnam, not topple the Communist regime. As the conflict dragged on into years, this came to be seen by the American populace and others as an exercise in futility. Meanwhile, the idea that a small, third-world country in Southeast Asia becoming a Communist state would be any type of threat to Democracy became increasingly seen as an illusion. The fact that the US won every battle and enemy body counts remained disproportionately high could not gloss over the destruction being broadcast into American living rooms on a nightly basis, eventually galvanising public opinion against the war.

Read more: wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_co...Vietnam_War#ixzz1sCq2tAGg

INSANE...The above is what passes for Intel in DC this AM...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#514. To: mcgowanjm (#506)

The truth replaced by silence is evil.

Turn on your TV now to see it...

How about a youtube video instead.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-16   8:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#515. To: All (#513)

Let's do a History Lesson.

According to the BBC even up to today:

news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/...ewsid_2648000/2648951.stm

"White House intelligence in Washington anticipated attacks over the Tet holiday to celebrate the lunar new year, but they were surprised by their intensity.

Sporadic fighting is still being reported in Saigon but the main hostilities - which began at 1800 local time two days ago - are reported to have ceased.

Reality:

Tet Offensive lasts til the End of May...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kham_Duc

"In the early hours of May 10, elements of the Viet Cong 1st Regiment attacked Ngok Tavak, and they successfully overran much of the outpost. By dawn, the 11th MSF Company was devastated, but they later received reinforcements which came in the form of the 12th Mobile Strike Force Company. Despite having received assurances that further reinforcements would arrive to relieve the outpost, the commander of the 11th MSF Company decided to evacuate his troops and move towards Kham Duc. By that time, however, the Viet Cong 1st Regiment had already turned their attention to the main target at Kham Duc, and they only left behind some local force units to destroy allied reinforcements. Meanwhile, elements of the Americal Division had been airlifted into Kham Duc as part of Operation Golden Valley, to bolster the strength of the Special Forces Camp there.

On the morning of May 11, the North Vietnamese 2nd Division surrounded Kham Duc, and they gradually forced United States-led forces into their bases after several outposts were overrun. Westmoreland then ordered Kham Duc to be evacuated, so the 834th Air Division was told to make an all-out effort to extract all the people in Kham Duc, both military and civilian. By the time the evacuation was completed, nine U.S. military aircraft had been shot down, including two C-130s. On May 12, the North Vietnamese were in complete control of Kham Duc, and the battle resulted in a major defeat for the United States military."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   9:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#516. To: All (#515)

Expect a major reversal somewhere in the afghans with fragging/mutiny.

In the next weeks.

O and a surprise visit (there can be no other kind;) by Obama into Kabul or Islamabad.

Apr 16, 1968: Johnson arrives in Honolulu Previous Day April 16 Calendar Next Day

At a series of meetings in Honolulu, President Johnson discusses recent Allied and enemy troop deployments with U.S. military leaders. He also conferred with South Korean President Park Chung Hee to reaffirm U.S. military commitments to Seoul and assure Park that his country's interests would not be compromised by any Vietnamese peace agreement.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   9:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#517. To: A K A Stone (#0)

But whatever you expect, don't expect this.

The USSA is way too far gone:

March 31, 1968

"What we won when all of our people united just must not now be lost in suspicion, distrust, selfishness, and politics among any of our people.

Believing this as I do, I have concluded that I should not permit the Presidency to become involved in the partisan divisions that are developing in this political year.

With America's sons in the fields far away, with America's future under challenge right here at home, with our hopes and the world's hopes for peace in the balance every day, I do not believe that I should devote an hour or a day of my time to any personal partisan causes or to any duties other than the awesome duties of this office--the Presidency of your country.

Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President.

But let men everywhere know, however, that a strong, a confident, and a vigilant America stands ready tonight to seek an honorable peace--and stands ready tonight to defend an honored cause--whatever the price, whatever the burden, whatever the sacrifice that duty may require.

Thank you for listening.

Good night and God bless all of you.

NOTE: The President spoke at 9 p.m. in his office at the White House. The address was broadcast nationally.

www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/joh...m/speeches.hom/680331.asp

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   9:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#518. To: All (#1)

O and one more thing per Kunstler Blog this AM:

".... The crucial moment in this recent history of race relations, it seems to me, must be located in the events between 1966 and 1970. This was the historical moment that followed the deconstruction of legal race codes with the passage into law of the Public Accommodations Act of 1964 and then the Voting Rights Act of 1965. These two legislative milestones, promoted and signed by Lyndon Johnson, were supposed to conclude the unfinished business of the Civil War and emancipation, which had festered so long in the Jim Crow inurement. The expectation was that the removal of legal obstacles to full citizenship would hasten economic justice and cultural equality, but just then something curious happened: the youth revolt of the late 1960s was underway and young black America immediately opted for separatism."

kunstler.com/blog/2012/04/a-kid-with-skittles.html

Only when the State gets desperate with it's wars do the Bottom 99% get any kind of reforms.

Expect some kind of Single Payer Medicare/VA for all....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   10:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#519. To: mcgowanjm (#508)

Paraguay, the new UN of the World.

Is that where Bush was rumored to have bought a ranch?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-16   11:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#520. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I think this guy is US Ambassador Crocker's suck up son....I mean, this is exactly the way Crocker/Panetta/JCS Dempsey think:

"The Light At the End of the Tunnel topic posted Sun, April 24, 2011 - 6:27 PM by Forrest (note the date and how this 'thinking' has the evolution of granite...;)

" The Taliban are entering the death-spiral phase of their comeback campaign.

This can be seen by sharply reduced activity in the countryside (where the surge in NATO and Afghan troops has broken the fighting spirit of the Taliban), and the increased reliance on high-profile terror attacks. NATO casualties are down from the same period last year, although the media coverage of Taliban terror attacks might make you think otherwise. The fighting through the Winter was particularly damaging to the Taliban, and recruiting for this year's "Spring Offensive" has been difficult. It's been known for over two years that this switch in tactics was coming. It's the same pattern seen in Iraq. Moreover, many Taliban leaders are trying to negotiate some kind of deal with the government. Some of these settlements have already been made, and now the Taliban have one less ally and one more target.

The terror campaign could go on, intensely, for a year or two. But eventually, the "fighting" Taliban are going to run out of money, men and places to hide.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/afg...424.aspx

No guerrilla movement can succeed without foreign support, and the Taliban's foreign supporters in Pakistan are themselves under serious strain.

The Only thing this moron left out was this:

"and has close links with al-Qaida"...LMFAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#521. To: lucysmom (#519)

Is that where Bush was rumored to have bought a ranch?

100 000 acres, cheek to jowl with the US SpecOp Base.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#522. To: A K A Stone (#514)

How about a youtube video instead.

Here you go...;}

# Al Qaeda Leader: Urges Syrians Against US and Israel - YouTube ► 0:57► 0:57

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dabqbR1dOisJul 28, 2011 - 57 sec - Uploaded by AlArabiya Al Qaeda Leader: Urges Syrians Against US and Israel On July 27, Al-Qaeda leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri ... # The Parcel Bomb Plot - Al-Qaeda's Gift to Israel - YouTube ► 7:43► 7:43

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvieNyBYZcoNov 10, 2010 - 8 min - Uploaded by argonium79 While Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) may have claimed responsibility for the parcel bomb plot ... #

GGN: Al Qaeda Urges World Back Syrian Rebel/ Al Qaeda, Israel ... ► 15:01► 15:01

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSjWEwlyzkMFeb 13, 2012 - 15 min - Uploaded by DDarko2013 PLEASE SUBSCRIBE Please visit: www.ggnonline.com for the latest news commentary by Global ... # *Obama Watch* Aiding Al Qaeda, Islamic Extremists. (Israel, Bible ... ► 7:52► 7:52

www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8jE88dZjX4Feb 18, 2012 - 8 min - Uploaded by noimplant4me rt.com/news/us-al-qaeda-syria-otrakji-635/ http://rt.com/news/syria- opposition-al-qaeda-us-567/ # GGN: Al Qaeda Urges World Back Syrian Rebel/ Al Qaeda, Israel ... ► 15:01► 15:01

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVJ3KpKSU30Feb 13, 2012 - 15 min - Uploaded by ddarko2012 PLEASE SUBSCRIBE Please visit: www.ggnonline.com for the latest news commentary by Global ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#523. To: All (#522)

US Frames Losing Defensive Posture in Afghanistan as Last Push for Victory As the Taliban gears up for its spring offensive, the US's lost war will be even more starkly illustrated

by John Glaser, April 16, 2012

news.antiwar.com/2012/04/...as-last-push-for-victory/

Amerikans have zero idea of the monster slouching toward Bethlehem.

TURNING and turning in the widening gyre. The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart ... And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches .... William Butler Yeats

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#524. To: All (#523)

Insurgents mounted spectacular coordinated attacks over the weekend that set off an 18-hour battle with NATO forces, an emphatic indication of their annual spring offensive and a public relations embarrassment for the U.S. at what seems to be the lowest point in the war.

I would say, maybe 10% of Amerikans have a clue that this happened Sunday....maybe.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#525. To: All (#524)

U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said, ”These are isolated attacks that are done for symbolic purposes, and they have not regained any territory.”

Less than 1% realize that Australia will be gone by August:

Australia to withdraw troops from Afghanistan earlier than expected ... www.cnn.com/2012/04/16/wo...a/australia.../index.html

1 hour ago – Australian troops could begin pulling out from Afghanistan this year

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#526. To: All (#525)

To present this spring’s increased violence as a last strategic push to win the war – which is how its being presented – is really an embarrassingly transparent attempt at war propaganda.

Khe Sahn and Kham Duc approach.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#527. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Israel’s Fear of Three Simple Words: Welcome to Palestine By Joharah Baker

The Palestinians may seem to be in a very unenviable position at present but yesterday proves that popular opinion is moving in the right direction. Let Air France, Lufthansa, Alitalia and Turkish Airways kowtow to Israel and squirm at their own lack of chutzpah. One day they too will tire of Israel’s dictates. In the meantime, our friends will continue to show their solidarity with us, either in Palestine, in airport terminals or their own countries, and the occupation, eventually, will fall. Of this, there is no doubt.

Joharah Baker is a Writer for the Media and Information Department at the Palestinian Initiative for the Promotion of Global Dialogue and Democracy (MIFTAH). She can be contacted at mid@miftah.org.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   9:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#528. To: All (#527)

I think there are many people who underestimate just how much d0llar demand is created by 30-40 million hardcore opium/heroin addicts there are worldwide. Try buying your fix using something other than the d0llar for wholesale purchases and just about as difficult for retail on the street purchases. The stormtroopers are protecting a very important d0llar crop. Peace...Tet

Now for what really happened in Kabul, the afghans Sunday:

April 16, 2012

A senior Taliban commander in Kabul boasts to The Daily Beast that Sunday’s strikes against military and diplomatic targets in the Afghan capital and three eastern provinces were just a preview of the fighting season to come. "These are coordinated attacks that went just as we planned," says Qari Talha, "This is only the start of what’s in store this year and next for the Americans and [Afghan President Hamid] Karzai. We will show them our ability."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   9:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#529. To: All (#528) (Edited)

First. It's Insane to think that at least 20 suicide people killed no one in a 24 hr gun battle. Starting at noon-2 pm, in the most crowded part of Kabul.

"According to eye witnesses multiple weapon sounds, gunfire and explosions were being heard through the night spreading fear and panic across Kabul city, while heavy fighting was still ongoing after 4:00 a.m. and patrol helicopters were hovering overhead and several ambulances were rushing to and from the fighting scene. A doctor, on the condition of anonymity said that the local hospitals were packed with the dead and wounded from the fighting."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   10:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#530. To: All (#529)

Second. Note the comp[lete lack of detail from USSAnews....;}

And definitely No Pics...

" The group of 13 martyr attackers of Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, almost all at the same time, targeted the so-called ISAF main headquarter, embassies, Parliament house, Presidential Palace, Dar-ul-Aman palace, and other important military and government buildings.

After about 24 hours of extremely lethal fighting with successful onslaughts on these targets involving martyrdom attacks, remote-controlled bomb attacks, direct shooting attacks and other hand grenades attacks killed as many as 93 enemies including US-NATO and their allied troops, local police and soldiers of puppet army, and other foreign diplomats in addition to wounding hundreds of them."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   10:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#531. To: All (#530)

The large-scale operation which simultaneously unleashed at the four provinces of Afghanistan continuing for about 42 nonstop hours, joined by only 30 martyrdom-seeking Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate killed as many as 220 puppets, US-NATO invaders and their allies and wounded numerous of the enemy soldiers.

The funniest thing is the enemy’s blatant lies that brazenly denied their fatalities, as always, by throwing dust in the eyes of the people worldwide and world media, which is typical of the US-NATO invaders. So it may not come as a surprise. The American occupation enemy and its allies are the most famous for understating their fatalities and exaggerating ours, no doubt they are very good at international lies.

However, the Islamic Emirates ask the world and mainstream media to go and just check only the hospitals in these four provinces, the truth will speak for itself.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   10:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#532. To: All (#531)

Eminently strange the way the 1:7 KIA to Wounded ratio holds up in urban combat...

#

# Civilian casualty ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratioCached - Similar

A substantial number of civilians in this war were also deliberately killed by the Axis Powers ... had been killed, and 16000 wounded—a civilian-combatant fatality rate of 5:1. ... This would give a civilian-combatant fatality ratio of about 7:1. ... "even the most moral army can make mistakes, especially in dense urban warfare".

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   10:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#533. To: mcgowanjm (#532)

Hey, you forgot to post all the earthquakes today.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-17   11:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#534. To: mcgowanjm (#532)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-17   11:36:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#535. To: All (#534)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-17   11:40:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#536. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, TooConservative (#521)

"Wikileaks recently released many classified documents that prove that NASA and high-level U.S. official are aware of the three spaceships and are making plans to battle the spaceships. They have been concealing information from the U.S. public for decades. Wikileaks also confirms that the UFO sightings over the last three months prove that the alien invasions (long predicted by SETI) has begun. The three spaceships will mark the official beginning of the alien invasion."

Could not find a good category to post this under so using the mcgowanjm "wire" seemed best:) ALIEN SPACESHIPS TO ATTACK EARTH IN NOVEMBER 2012! Posted on Tuesday, April 17th, 2012 By Frank Lake

Three giant alien spaceships are again heading for Earth! Scientists predict the new ships will arrive in November of 2012. UFO encounters continue to increase – as documented on WWN. And today scientists at SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), an independent non-commercial organization, made a major announcement:

“Three giant spaceships are heading toward Earth. The largest one of them is 200 miles wide. Two others are slightly smaller. At present, the objects are just moving past Jupiter. Judging by their speed, they should be on Earth by the fall of 2012,” said John Malley, the lead extraterrestrial expert at SETI.

Three similar giant ships landed in China and the Indonesia Sea in November, 2011. They were identified as alien spaceships from Planet Gootan. Three more giant Gootan ships are headed her for November, 2012.

Read two of WWN’s many stories about the three Gootan ships landing in 2011:

THE STORY ABOUT THE LANDING OF THE THREE SHIPS IN NOVEMBER 2011 THE GOOTANS ARE HERE The new Gootan spaceships have been detected by HAARP search system. The system, based in Alaska, was designed to study the phenomenon of northern lights. According to SETI researchers, the objects are extraterrestrial spaceships. They will be visible in optical telescopes as soon as they reach Mars’s orbit – sometime in November of 2012. The US government has been reportedly informed about the event.

SETI researchers have spent fifty years monitoring space. Dr. Malley said that they have conclusively proven that “we are just newcomers in this huge and unexplored world. Many believe that there are many other civilizations in space besides our own civilization.”

Wikileaks recently released many classified documents that prove that NASA and high-level U.S. official are aware of the three spaceships and are making plans to battle the spaceships. They have been concealing information from the U.S. public for decades. Wikileaks also confirms that the UFO sightings over the last three months prove that the alien invasions (long predicted by SETI) has begun. The three spaceships will mark the official beginning of the alien invasion.

Malley said that a Chinese official, Mao Kan, had obtained over than 1,000 secret NASA photographs depicting not only human footprints, but even a human carcass on the surface of the Moon. Some of the bones in the carcass were missing, the official said. The human corpse must have been dropped on the Moon from an alien spaceship, whereas the extraterrestrials kept some tissue samples for research.

Dr. Ken Johnston, former Manager of the Data and Photo Control Department at NASA’s Lunar Receiving Laboratory, said that US astronauts had found and photographed ancient ruins of artificial origin on the Moon. US astronauts had seen large unknown mechanisms on the Moon.

Both Johnston and Mao Kan agree that three more Gootan spaceships are heading for Earth.

Beginning in August of 2012 the U.N. will begin preparing citizens of the world for the second attack of the three Gootan spaceships and a subsequent alien attack, which they predict will be “a large-scale assault.”

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-17   16:22:40 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#537. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, TooConservative (#536)

Got some killer raccoons in Florida.

KILLER RACCOONS IN FLORIDA! Posted on Tuesday, April 17th, 2012 By Frank Lake

MERRITT ISLAND, FL – Wild, vicious raccoons are attacking citizens in Kiwanis Island Park.Brevard County Parks and Recreation closed Kiwanis Island Park on Merritt Island, Florida after hundreds of raccoon attack were reported over the last few weeks. Governor Rick Scott is sending in the National Guard. ”The raccoons are out of control. We’re hoping the Guard can control them… but we’re not taking any chances. We may have to ask the government for help from the NAVY Seals,” said a Florida government insider. Brevard County Animal Services trapped two raccoons, and another trapper contracted by Parks and Recreation trapped two more raccoons at the park Sunday morning. But that didn’t stop the hundreds of other raccoons that are causing mayhem. There are reportedly two casualties from raccoon deaths… so far. Residents are heading out of town – running for their lives.

The first attack was reported by a woman who was eating lunch under a park pavilion. She was surrounded by nine killer raccoons. Luckily she was saved by a Park Ranger. She was transported for medical treatment, but the extent of her injuries was unknown.

Just this morning, a mother and child were on the playground when the child was reportedly bitten by a wild raccoon. The police located the raccoon and after an intense fight, the raccoon was taken out.Kiwanis Island Park is located on State Road 520 on Merritt Island, Florida.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-17   16:34:36 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#538. To: redleghunter (#537)

Could not find a good category to post this under so using the mcgowanjm "wire" seemed best:) ALIEN SPACESHIPS TO ATTACK EARTH IN NOVEMBER 2012! Posted on Tuesday, April 17th, 2012 By Frank Lake

Chuckles.....

If you are not careful you too will fall into Doctor Evil's mcgowanjm kookery abyss.

(posting anything TO Brain Shit is pointless....rather posting derisively AT him makes sense)

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-04-17   16:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#539. To: All (#538)

Going back over this thread leads to serious chuckles.

Also telling is that there are 20-25 post long stretches of blanked doltish bozoed "posts".

(posting anything TO Brain Shit is pointless....rather posting derisively AT him makes sense)

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-04-17   16:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#540. To: e_type_jag (#538)

The purpose of this thread reminds me of the old joke: how do you keep a blonde busy? Put her in a round room and tell her to sit in the corner . . .

war has to do something for entertainment; the voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2012-04-17   16:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#541. To: Rudgear (#540)

how do you keep a blonde busy? Put her in a round room and tell her to sit in the corner . . .

this one i'd not heard but i'll remember:)

and fitting of a soul like jim.

(posting anything TO Brain Shit is pointless....rather posting derisively AT him makes sense)

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-04-17   16:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#542. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Twist one. When the Penn State pedophilia scandal emerged, it turned out that Gricar had declined to prosecute Jerry Sandusky in 1998 over very similar allegations. There are still rumors that the scandal is really about a very powerful pedophilia ring, and not just a cover-up of the actions of one bad guy.

xymphora

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#543. To: A K A Stone, redleghunter, All (#533)

If all your yoyo's load all their RAM intensive graphs/pics on 'my' site,

you might need to see to adding memory....;}

Cause it could slow down retrieval.

But maybe that's the point, eh?

Cause there sure ain't no info being added.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#544. To: redleghunter (#533)

Thanx, red. I was busy.

Here you go:

17-APR-2012 03:50:14 -32.69 -71.45 6.7 25.9 NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#545. To: e_type_jag (#538)

Doctor Evil's mcgowanjm kookery abyss.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

E tu, Brute?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#546. To: All (#545)

So. Anyone wondering why not. one. single word. is being put out about the Epic Fail 'Tet Offensive' in the Afghans?

Someone in the Pentagon is burning the mid nite oil.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#547. To: All (#546)

Anyone interested in the PEnn St Pedophile Ring?

Kinda like SpecOps, boys, and the afghans, eh?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#548. To: All (#547)

Twist two. Deadspin.com recently made a FOIA request to the FBI regarding Gricar (my emphasis in red):

"The documents don't reveal anything about the investigation into Gricar's disappearance, likely because the investigation is ongoing, but they do contain material that will raise eyebrows under all those tinfoil hats. For one, the FBI consulted with the CIA before responding to my request. And the CIA refused to allow certain information to be released because it's classified "in the interest of national defense or foreign policy" and can't be disclosed in order to protect "intelligence sources and methods" as well as the names, titles, etc., of CIA personnel.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#549. To: All (#548)

Wonder if the

Army: 5

Navy: 2

Marines: 2

Air Force: 1

Do any boys with the Secret Service on these Overseas 'missions'....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#550. To: All (#549)

The Titanicaca:

Meanwhile, the third class passengers are locked up in the hold. The captain has ordered then to suck the water out the ship, the tools assigned to them are soda straws stamped ‘Made in China’. The straws must be bought and paid for before use but the Chinese are willing to extend credit if good collateral is offered.

What to do?

economic-undertow.com

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   21:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#551. To: A K A Stone (#0)

What to do?

Are the lower class passengers ready to mutiny and put the officers off the ship or do they desire to take the first-class passengers’ place, so as to better rearrange the deck chairs? Since they are the only ones able to fix the ship’s problems it is really up to them to decide what to do. If they behave as the first class has done the ship will sink. If they attempt to make things right the ship might sink but they also might succeed. If they do nothing there is certain failure. Here is a dilemma that the passengers are ill-equipped to cope with. The passengers must not only act outside their narrow personal interests but also against how class interests as these are ordinarily defined as gains excluded from others. It is also outside decades of ‘television training’ which demands that individuals serve the system in order to be rewarded for their efforts at some unspecified point in the future (never).

When an ocean liner starts taking on water, what governs whether it’s “women and children first” or “every man for himself”? According to a report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences lead author Benno Torgler, men’s altruistic versus self-serving behavior depends on how quickly the ship sinks.

How quickly the ship sinks, indeed …

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   21:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#552. To: All (#551) (Edited)

And speaking of ships sinking,

Spain's Repsol's YPF unit just got nationalized in Argentine.

Argentine thinks it owns the MAldives, btw.

This Englishman thinks they're called the Falklands....;}

April 17, 2012 REPSOL: Everything is a weapon, #3,012

Will the Falkland Islanders soon be learning Chinese?

With the proposed nationalisation of Repsol by Argentina yesterday, the group’s shares fell 7% to 16.31 euros.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   21:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#553. To: mcgowanjm (#546)

So. Anyone wondering why not. one. single word. is being put out about the Epic Fail 'Tet Offensive' in the Afghans?

Someone in the Pentagon is burning the mid nite oil.

You mean, what you get from the Taliban when you shift from being terrain focused to enemy focused? But you do have a good point...Tet was never intended to oust the US by force, but to create a media nightmare for US forces, thus losing American support for the war. Americans from all political walks have already indicated loudly we need to send home our Troops. And that will happen soon enough. Then we will all watch on cable how Karzi and his tribal chiefs go running to the Taliban for support, and will watch the smuggled videos months later of Karzi and his gang getting their throats slit.

Afghanistan is no Iraq.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-18   11:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#554. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Thursday, 27 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 19 April 2012 11:46 LOGAR, Apr. 19 – Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate confronted the invaders military-secured supply convoy of some 5 supply tucks and fuel tankers in the capital of Logar province on Wednesday. A Mujahideen’s official said on Tuesday that 6 security guards were killed and 7 more got wounded with five the enemy vehicles destroyed including 4 oil tankers and 3 trucks filled with supplies of US-NATO invaders, adding that two Mujahideen became martyrs.

As the USSA....wait for it....announces it's Last Offensive... to retake Kabul.....LMFAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   8:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#555. To: redleghunter (#553)

You mean, what you get from the Taliban when you shift from being terrain focused to enemy focused?

Explain this, please.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   8:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#556. To: redleghunter (#553)

Americans from all political walks have already indicated loudly we need to send home our Troops. And that will happen soon enough.

Excuse me?

Limping Out of Afghanistan by Immanuel Wallerstein

The two candidates for the U.S. presidency seem to be trying to outshout each other concerning Iran, Syria, and Israel/Palestine. Each is claiming he is doing more to support the same objectives. Isn't it therefore strange that no similar verbal contest is going on at the moment concerning Afghanistan? [ Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse/Getty] In February 2012, some Korans were burned by U.S. soldiers, which led to violent public protests in Afghanistan. (Photo: Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse/Getty

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   8:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#557. To: redleghunter (#553)

And that will happen soon enough. Then we will all watch on cable how Karzi and his tribal chiefs go running to the Taliban for support, and will watch the smuggled videos months later of Karzi and his gang getting their throats slit.

Afghanistan is no Iraq.

First, the Pashtun prefer to hand their puppets...;}

Second, you're correct. The Afghans have no oil and Iraq has no opium.

Big difference.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   9:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#558. To: A K A Stone (#0)

See Israel's Military just got slapped on the nose as India took $70 million in 'guarantee money' for bribery of Indian Generals....

and

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ndhati-roy

There's no escape from the corporations that run India | Arundhati Roy www.guardian.co.uk/.../2012/mar/.../cor ... o...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Mar 19, 2012 – Arundhati Roy: Domestic mega-corporations' tentacles extend into every ... do you have any idea how vast Tata and Reliance are? did you ...

Great read.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   10:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#559. To: All (#558)

"Rome had its imperial myth, as did Spain, Britain, and just about any other empire you care to think of—but the American version of it deserves close attention, because it obscures factors that need to be understood as the American empire hurtles down the curve of its decline.

The mythology runs more or less like this: in the aftermath of the First World War, America withdrew from the international responsibilities it had briefly taken up during that war, refusing to join the League of Nations and distancing itself from global politics. In the vacuum thus formed, the coming of the Great Depression sent the conflicts that drove the world to war in 1914 spinning out of control again. As Japan invaded China and Germany prepared for war, the United States faced a sharp political conflict between isolationists, who more or less wanted to build a wall around the country and shut the rest of the world out, and those who recognized America’s responsibility to the rest of the world. That struggle only came to an end with the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor; thereafter the American people united to win the war. Once it was won, in turn, they refused to repeat the mistake of 1919, and took up the burden of global leadership that America retains to this day.

Thus the mythology. The reality was considerably more complex.

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...a-price-of-supremacy.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   10:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#560. To: All (#559)

As I have said right from the start, debt forgiveness on a massive scale is the only answer: it is too late in the day now for anything else. There is no such thing as ‘austere simulation’: it is just another mad oxymoron invented by the Brussels morons.

Yesterday, The Slog told everyone that the necrophilia will continue until more sane voices are allowed to be heard. As usual, you read it here first.

From the Archives: Either forgive debt, or face disaster.

Disaster, coming right up.... :twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   10:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#561. To: mcgowanjm (#555)

You mean, what you get from the Taliban when you shift from being terrain focused to enemy focused? Explain this, please.

You are seeing more bombings in the East now because the outposts/fire bases were turned over to Afghans, and the US BDEs started more mobile operations in the vallies. It has helped the rural towns fend off the Taliban, but risk is increased by allowing a few "leakers" to get to Kabul.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-19   12:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#562. To: mcgowanjm (#556)

Excuse me?

Limping Out of Afghanistan by Immanuel Wallerstein

The two candidates for the U.S. presidency seem to be trying to outshout each other concerning Iran, Syria, and Israel/Palestine. Each is claiming he is doing more to support the same objectives. Isn't it therefore strange that no similar verbal contest is going on at the moment concerning Afghanistan? [ Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse/Getty] In February 2012, some Korans were burned by U.S. soldiers, which led to violent public protests in Afghanistan. (Photo: Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse/Getty

Yep, gun boat diplomacy at its worst.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-19   12:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#563. To: mcgowanjm (#557)

Second, you're correct. The Afghans have no oil and Iraq has no opium.

If we could just figure out how to run cars and trucks on opium:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-19   12:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#564. To: mcgowanjm (#560)

As I have said right from the start, debt forgiveness on a massive scale is the only answer: it is too late in the day now for anything else. There is no such thing as ‘austere simulation’: it is just another mad oxymoron invented by the Brussels morons.

Yesterday, The Slog told everyone that the necrophilia will continue until more sane voices are allowed to be heard. As usual, you read it here first.

From the Archives: Either forgive debt, or face disaster.

Disaster, coming right up.... :twisted: :? 8-)

It will be disaster mac. Man cannot heal the pain and suffering of the world no matter how hard "man" tries.

As you have probably realized I am an Army officer with multiple tours to very inhospitable locations over the past 20+ years. I was asked by a fellow officer, a few years ahead of me on his way to 'stars', about what I thought the solution was for a peaceful Iraq. I chuckled and asked him when was the last time Iraq was peaceful. I then told him something that shocked him...Jesus Christ is the only answer, and we should be encouraging missionaries in the region instead of handing despots our American dough, which ends up in radical cleric's pockets, who then fashion explosives to kill our youngsters serving on the line. I then told him even evangelizing the Islamic regions will not bring peace to the earth. Only the Second Coming of Christ when He reigns will bring true peace.

Needless to say, I have not been asked for advice since that day.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-19   15:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#565. To: redleghunter (#537)

I hate coons.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-04-19   19:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#566. To: TooConservative (#565)

I hate coons.

Me too. They're way to greasy.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-19   20:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#567. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Martyrdom attack in Helmand kills 13 puppets, injures 11 others Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Friday, 28 Jamadil Awal 1433 Friday, 20 April 2012 09:26

HELMAND, Apr. 20 – A martyrdom attack hit local police station in Garmsir district southern Afghanistan’s Helmand province yesterday, at about 9:00 p.m. local time, a Mujahideen’s official said.

Official said the a lone heroic Mujahid of Islamic Emirate Hameedullah , resident of Helmand province stormed the station and catch the police off guard while

they were having dinner, upon reaching his target, upon having his targets in sight, martyrdom-seeking combatant, Hameedullah opened fire with heavy and light weapons and as soon as he ran out of ammo, the brave Mujahid blew up his explosive vest, killing and wounding about two dozen of the puppets on the spot.

According to a report, about 13 policemen were killed and a further 11 wounded in both direct shooting and bomb attacks.

It is believed that there was no one outside the station on guard duty, taking advantage of which made it easy for the martyr attack to reach his target within the station and conduct a successful attack.

The martyrdom attack come before the shoot-down of the US invaders low-flying helicopter called in to transfer the dead and wounded from the blast site when it was shot with rocket fire near Khanshin district, killing all the American invaders aboard the helicopter.

The Nato, however, confirmed that only four American soldiers had been killed in the incident claiming it was a “crash”, which was, in fact, no crash but a successful shoot-down carried out by Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate.

A police officer and a commander of militia were among those killed in martyrdom operation.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#568. To: All (#567)

I put the above post in first to give context.

Something the 'Support Our Troops' USSAMedia never does....;}

Mujahideen shoot down US helicopter; scores of American invaders killed Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Friday, 28 Jamadil Awal 1433 Friday, 20 April 2012 10:09

HELMAND, Apr. 20 – A report says Friday that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate downed the US helicopter in Khanshin district of southern Helmand province last night, killing all the American invades aboard.

The enemy helicopter came under rocket fire after 9:00 p.m. last night while it was flying at lower altitude to airlift the dead and wounded of the puppets

killed in martyrdom operation in Garmsir, Helmand province.

The shoot-down follows the successful martyr attack one of deadliest for the US invaders and their puppets.

The enemy confirmed the death of its only four soldiers while many are believed to have been killed in the shoot-down.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#569. To: All (#568)

The key here is that helos rarely initiate contact with the enemy, but come in to drop troops, support w/an air platform, or remove.

Noting that Never does the Pentagon state the Ground Level Actions with these 'crashes'....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#570. To: All (#569)

14 Japan nukes in a 'Three Mile Island' state or worse.

The status of each SFP is unknown.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#571. To: All (#570)

Vietnam ended only because of the Arab Boycott sent our economy into a tail spin.

And so…learning exactly nothing…the US government repeats the Vietnam/oil boycott disaster this time, inflicting the boycott on ourselves by embargoing one of the biggest oil producers on earth: Iran. This suicidal behavior is seen in the latest headlines at Antiwar.com:

1. NATO Officials Fight Back Against Reducing Size of Afghan Military

2. So, to fix this fiscal problem, NATO begs Russia, China claiming that THEY Should Help Pay for Afghanistan After 2014....8D"

I remember this. My first up close encounter with oil pricing.

Gasoline at the Gulf Station went from $0.37 to $0.44. I thought it was crazy until I found out later that even getting gas was a problem elsewhere.

When our colonies elsewhere today see us completely bogged down and stretched out the same thing will happen again.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#572. To: All (#571)

And which colonies will revolt first?

I'm betting NATO....;}

"5. Since the war spending is the golden goose for Congress and AIPAC, no war or occupation of Muslim nations can ends so to the warmongers running our government into bankruptcy, the 2014 date was “artificial” and that if Afghanistan is such a mess NATO just shouldn’t leave, they say. The Europeans are freaking out because their collective tails are being twisted hard by the Iranians and their economic situation is dire due to overspending by governments and the last thing on earth the people there want is for NATO to be running from one Muslim nation to the next, bogged down in endless wars with enraged natives.

They all want out but the US runs NATO and the US is owned by AIPAC and the wars there will continue until bankruptcy destroys Europe, the US and Japan all at the same time. And history is very clear: all great empires go bankrupt due to foreign interventions that fail due to being futile or costly while taxes are not collected at home due to the very rich refusing to pay for anything at all."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#573. To: redleghunter (#564)

I chuckled and asked him when was the last time Iraq was peaceful.

The end of the Ottoman Empire and then the End of the British Empire.

At the end of the USSA Empire it will be peaceful again.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#574. To: redleghunter (#564) (Edited)

.Jesus Christ is the only answer,

Well let's see.

Then you have the Coptics and Bethlehem under control in the MENA.

Unless of course you count Jesus as Prophet and then you get the Muslim World.

With Religion you instantly pit US v Them. Add the State and you get death. Add oil and you get genocide.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#575. To: redleghunter (#563)

If we could just figure out how to run cars and trucks on opium:)

I'm sure there's an energy component to opium, but it would be almost like running cars and trucks on corn.

Eating it would give much better results...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#576. To: redleghunter (#562)

Yep, gun boat diplomacy at its worst.

Retreat is very hard for Empire.

Letting the core know ahead of time is never done publicly.

The best you'll get is Hitler November 8, 1942. Germany had lost the war, and everyone in charge knew it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#577. To: redleghunter (#561)

You are seeing more bombings in the East now because the outposts/fire bases were turned over to Afghans, and the US BDEs started more mobile operations in the vallies. It has helped the rural towns fend off the Taliban, but risk is increased by allowing a few "leakers" to get to Kabul.

Exactly VietNam, except no B 52 Carpet Bombing.

A Kabul Offensive after 11 years? And this will be our last.

The 'Tet' Offensive isn't over. There's a Khe Sanh, Kham Duc and then Pleiku waiting....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#578. To: TooConservative (#565)

You do have a singular wit. Saw one in the bird bath out back during the severe drought last year in Central Texas drinking some water. Wife and kids watched from the window (while yellow Lab was going crazy at the door) and said "how cute..." I said, yeah cute, to the boys and told them they would not say that when I enlisted them to help clean up the trash the little critter would no doubt toss that night:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-20   11:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#579. To: mcgowanjm (#577)

A Kabul Offensive after 11 years?

If you look at the "rat lines" that come in from the east towards Kabul, the Taliban have been trying (save one year 2007) to do what they are doing now. Up until Spring 2008 the Taliban and their minions obliged NATO by getting mowed down in those eastern valleys. Then they found out we no longer had the will to fight on the home front, and changed their strategy.

On carpet bombing, you are correct. However, the USAF and USN have dropped a lot of bombs and killed a bunch of Taliban in those eastern valleys for quite a long time. As you know we only hear about the bad bomb drops that hit a wedding reception.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-20   13:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#580. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#8. To: Robin, nolu chan, all (#6)

This was once called treason. Now it's legal, as corporations are now people.

I addressed this with Nolu. Nolu doesn't care for me anymore...;}

Note how hard change is made from the bottom up.

And how easy from the top down.

When is this addressed? Only when the state is in danger. Abe Lincoln, FDR, LBJ danger.

Justice-as-Truth Legal Argument

by W'Lawpsh / April 20th, 2012

Truth is the summit of being: justice is the application of it to affairs…and whatever instances can be quoted of unpunished theft, or of a lie which somebody has credited, justice must prevail, and it is the privilege of truth to make itself believed.

– Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882)

1. The Constitution precludes imperialism as against “foreign Nations and Indian tribes.”

"20. Certainly those Americans who for their own power, prestige and profit persist in playing “The Great Game” of imperialism are “Enemies” in the treasonable constitutional sense.

21. Their success to date has terminated the existence of the United States as a constitutional democracy under the rule of law. That is the only right to exist that the country claims. Or can claim, pending a duly processed constitutional amendment.

W'Lawpsh is a scholar and author of jurisprudential anthropology, constitutional history, and international human rights law. Read other articles by W'Lawpsh, or visit W'Lawpsh's website.

dissidentvoice.org/2012/0...-as-truth-legal-argument/

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-21 8:31:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-21   8:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#581. To: redleghunter (#579) (Edited)

Up until Spring 2008 the Taliban and their minions obliged NATO by getting mowed down in those eastern valleys. Then they found out we no longer had the will to fight on the home front, and changed their strategy.

On carpet bombing, you are correct. However, the USAF and USN have dropped a lot of bombs and killed a bunch of Taliban in those eastern valleys for quite a long time.

Yes. Thank you. Intelligent comments.

The purpose of every guerrilla war to sap the will of the Core to continue the fight.

4th Gen warfare moving to 5th gen...the essence of which is to do more damage with fewer men and resources.

Again, the Afghans are showing zero weakness while the CoreStateMedia is reduced to not even mentioning the Tet Offensive in Kabul.

Even here at LF you're hard pressed to find developments.

We don't know what we're fighting for. And we're insolvent. Neither of those is a problem for the Taliban.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-21   8:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#582. To: redleghunter (#578)

BTW, I love raccoons. Them and feral hogs will take over after humans are gone....;}

And glad you're from Texas. I love messin' with Texicans....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-21   8:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#583. To: A K A Stone (#0)

April 21, 2012

A new bill moving quickly through the House Armed Services Committee is set to add another $680 million to the billions in annual military aid the US government provides to Israel, with the funding earmarked for paying for more of the "Iron Dome" defensive missiles.

From our gridlocked Congress....;}

Meanwhile, in Flyover Country:

The more wealth concentrates, their research shows, the feebler a society's investments in infrastructure become. Our nation's long-term decline in federal infrastructure investment — from 3.3 percent of GDP in 1968 to 1.3 percent in 2011 — turns out to mirror almost exactly the long-term shift in income from America's middle class to the richest Americans. And the U.S. states where the rich have gained the most at the expense of the middle class turn out to be the states that invest the least in infrastructure.-billhicksisdead

" So why did Americans so docilely agree to give away the store? Because even though they may want their government services, they don't want to pay for them and hate paying taxes even more. That is the very essence of Spoiled Rotten Nation. Me first and fuck the rest of you...until one day the whole stinking system collapses under the strain, as our deteriorating infrastructure will no doubt eventually do. But it's those last two sentences of the article that really made me laugh. This November, tens of millions of delusional idiots are going to go to the polls and cast their vote for rich, Wall Street asshole Willard Mitt Romney, who will essentially be promising to do what every President since Reagan has done. And tens of millions of other delusional idiots will go to the polls and cast their ballots for President Hopey-Changey, who will blow smoke up their asses like he already has for four grueling years, until he gets reelected and then proceeds to continue doing what every President since Reagan has done. Either way, the infrastructure will remain right where it is today: fucked.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-22   7:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#584. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

#4. To: Robin (#3)

I don't think China is headed for economic collapse, but a slow-down, perhaps. People across the internet keep saying this.

With absolute confidence in the numbers both the USSA and China are putting out.

Where the rule of law has been thrown out the window in every attempt to keep this fetid carcass of 'globalization' going.

China is collapsing as I type. Maybe ten days. Maybe ten weeks, but China has destroyed everything environmental in it's nation.

Without the ecology, you have no civilization.

Not to mention oil is something the Bottom 65% of Chinese never see except in their water supply.

Finally, a loan in China is booked as profit. They invented 'accounting'...;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-22 7:35:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#5. To: All (#4) China is ahead in one critical area:

Global Pollution and Prevention News: China carbon emissions ... www.enn.com › PollutionApr 29, 2011 – /pollution/article/42639. China, the world's biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, could peak in emissions by 2030 or earlier, says a study from ...

bullshite, China's blown the world's last bubble.

Peak Pollution.

And with Peak Pollution, history really won't be able to record it completely, because the Pop will be busy collapsing.

But before the Pop collapses, the economy will have collapsed.

Look at any vid of China today. Like the one at Qingdao, showing China's ongoing war games. The sky is brown,

China is collapsing now.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-22 9:10:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

#6. To: All (#5) World Cement Production for instance:

1.bp.blogspot.com/- KU4qjniDgMk/T4114WXA87I/AAAAAAAAEO8/rWEMD0eE3oI/s400/cementMTons.jpg

It is impressive that the curve shows no sign of abating whatsoever. Maybe there will be a peak in the coming years, but cement is a form of "persistent pollution." Reducing its production - or even stopping it - won't automatically return built environment to fertile soil. But we can't eat concrete. Will we ever get our land back?

You can bet China's tops there.

The above chart has gone parabolic. There's zero way now that it will do anything but collapse . Parabolic Curves do not linger at asymptote.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-22 9:17:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-22   9:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#585. To: All (#584)

It is counter-intuitive but, when exploiting a non renewable resource, becoming more efficient is not a good idea. ....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-22   9:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#586. To: mcgowanjm (#581)

Again, the Afghans are showing zero weakness while the CoreStateMedia is reduced to not even mentioning the Tet Offensive in Kabul.

I see how you are using a historical example---Tet--to explain what is going on now in Kabul. But Tet was crafted by a central government and had the backing of a standing army. Both of which the Taliban really don't have if you exclude Pakistan. As you mention, however, the intent is the same but not as large a scale as Tet.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-23   17:02:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#587. To: mcgowanjm (#582)

And glad you're from Texas. I love messin' with Texicans....;}

Well a naturalized Texan, not native born. Military service putting me in Texas for the majority of my 20+ years. Once you get used to the very hot summers where it is 95 degrees in the shade, the place grows on "ya." I am even accepted with my NOREASTER accent:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-23   17:31:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#588. To: redleghunter (#587)

You'll love this map:

www.forbes.com/sites/jonb.../16/migration-in-america/

I think Bexar County has the greatest influx from US 'migrants'.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-23   19:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#589. To: redleghunter (#587)

Well a naturalized Texan, not native born. Military service putting me in Texas for the majority of my 20+ years.

Wayne Co Miichigan would be the opposite of Bexar Co Texas:

www.forbes.com/special-report/2011/migration.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-23   19:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#590. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Press Action ::: Gas Industry Gives Obama High Marks for Plan to ... www.pressaction.com/news/...ll.../obamaorder05162012/

Monday, April 16, 2012. Gas Industry Gives Obama High Marks for Plan to Streamline Fracking Regulations. By Press Action. When the oil and gas industry ...

the entire fracking industry appears to be in trouble

# # Press Action ::: Gas Industry Gives Obama High Marks for Plan to ... www.pressaction.com/news/...ll.../obamaorder05162012/ You +1'd this publicly. Undo Monday, April 16, 2012. Gas Industry Gives Obama High Marks for Plan to Streamline Fracking Regulations. By Press Action. When the oil and gas industry ...

finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CHK

Chesapeake will go under before gas rises.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   8:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#591. To: All (#590)

Just the same way we forgot about Fukushima as quickly as we could to let President Obama start ushering in a “nuclear renaissance.”

But even worse, that we’ve forgotten the Deepwater Horizon shows that Americans are dumber than spit when it comes to one of the most important issues to our current prosperity and our future survival as a civilization and perhaps, a species.

Energy.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   8:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#592. To: All (#591)

Specifically, oil depletion since peak oil hit in 2006. There’s no reason that BP would’ve been drilling more than a mile under the ocean’s surface if there was any easy-to-find oil left. Fact is, the days of handy on-shore gushers are gone. Now, it’s all about deep water oil, Arctic oil, tar sands, oil shale, oil from fracking and other “unconventional” sources of crude. How much you spend for how much you get

The returns on that kind of oil are nothing like back in the day, when crude from West Texas could give a hundred barrels for every barrel of oil you’d have to spend on drilling or one barrel of oil would give you 30 barrels of Saudi crude. In our era of what Naomi Klein has dubbed “extreme energy,” oil can deliver energy returns as low as 10:1 or below.

transitionvoice.com/2012/04/deepwater-what/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   8:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#593. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#7. To: Skip Intro (#4)

Recall the joke evoked by Freud in order to render the strange logic of dreams: (1) I never borrowed a kettle from you; (2) I returned it to you unbroken; (3) the kettle was already broken when I got it from you.

Such an enumeration of inconsistent arguments confirms what it hopes to deny-that I returned to you a broken kettle.

Doesn't the same inconsistency characterize the way radical Islamists respond to the Holocaust? (1) The Holocaust did not happen. (2) It did happen, but the Jews deserved it. (3) The Jews did not deserve it, but they themselves lost the right to complain by doing to Palestinians what the Nazis did to them.

These conflicting positions are reflected in the views of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who recently questioned the historical reality of the Holocaust while implying that guilt for complicity in the Nazi genocide had led European countries to support Israel:

Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces, and they insist on it to the extent that if anyone proves something contrary to that, they condemn that person and throw them in jail. ... Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, our question for the Europeans is: Is the killing of innocent Jewish people by Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem? ...

If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe, like in Germany, Austria or other countries, to the Zionists, and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of Europe, and we will support it.

This statement mixes the most disgusting insinuations with a correct insight. The disgusting part is, of course, Holocaust denial or, even more disgusting, the claim that Jews deserved it ("we don't accept this claim": Which one? That Hitler killed million of Jews or that the Jews were innocent and did not deserve to be killed?).

What is correct, though, is the reminder of European hypocrisy: Europe effectively paid for its own guilt with another people's land. So when Ariel Sharon's spokesman Raanan Gissin said in response, "Just to remind Mr. Ahmadinejad, we've been here long before his ancestors were here. Therefore, we have a birthright to be here in the land of our forefathers and to live here," he evoked a historical right, which, if applied universally, would lead to wholesale slaughter.

That is to say, can one imagine a world in which ethnic groups would constantly "remind" their neighbors that "we've been here before you" (even if this means more than a thousand years ago), and use this fact to justify seizing their neighbor's land?

The big mystery apropos of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is: Why does it persist for so long when everybody knows the only viable solution?-the withdrawal of the Israelis from the West Bank and Gaza, the establishment of a Palestinian state, as well as some kind of a compromise concerning Jerusalem. There is effectively something of a neurotic symptom in the Middle East conflict-everyone sees the way to get rid of the obstacle, and yet, nonetheless, no one wants to remove it, as if there is some kind of pathological libidinal profit gained by persisting in the deadlock.

This is why the Middle East crisis is such a sensitive point for the pragmatic politics that aims to gradually resolve problems in a realistic mode. In this case, the true utopia is precisely that such a "realistic" approach will never work: The only "realistic" solution is the "big" one, to solve the problem at its roots. Here, then, the old motto from 1968 applies: Soyons réalistes, demandons l'impossible! Only a radical gesture that has to appear "impossible" within the existing coordinates will realistically do the job. So, perhaps, the solution "everybody knows" as the only viable one-the withdrawal of the Israelis, the establishment of a Palestinian state, etc.-nonetheless will not do, and one has to change the entire frame and propose a one-state-solution where everyone has equal rights."

Zlavoj Zizeck

www.egs.edu/faculty/slavo...itics-are-doomed-to-fail/

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   9:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#594. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Post Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:41 am by mcgowanjm The most censored story of the Century.

How many nukes have Melted Down & Thru:

Dai-Ni has:

2F [Daini] is that contaminated.

There are 4 reactors in 2F [Daini] and all of them stopped. Coolant system is properly working and the temperature is stable, but it’s only reactor 4 to have been recovered. Collecting comments of subcontract companies, I asked about the contamination situation to Tepco workers. They turned to be helpless.

“Yes, true.. I wonder why it’s so contaminated. The operation floor on the top and concrete shielding plug are unbelievably contaminated. Water is even in pedestal (= The room under pressure vissel [sic]).”

A retired employee of an electric company said, “If water is in pedestal, it means pressure vessel had excessive pressure. Control rod or pipes are severely damaged. The bottom of the reactor is broken through. Like Fukushima Dai ichi, it is rational to think there was a hydrogen explosion.”

Toshiba planned to enter reactor 3 it the end of December, but they didn’t.

enenews.com/book-by-fukushima-wo ... -explosion

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   11:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#595. To: mcgowanjm (#594)

I saw Arkansas took another former Louisville football coach, John L. Smith. He's pretty good and a bit zany but not as good as Petrino IMO.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-24   11:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#596. To: Fred Mertz (#595)

The happiest day in the Michigan State football program was when John L. left.

Nice and decent fellow but lousy coach while at MSU.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-04-24   12:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#597. To: Brian S (#596)

I really didn't pay attention to John L. after he departed but your comments stir up some vague memories of his time at MSU. With such a common name it's easy to remember his with the unique middle initial added.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-24   13:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#598. To: A K A Stone (#0)

February 2012 Case-Shiller Home Price Decline Less Badly Posted on 24 April 2012 by Steven Hansen

That's the English language being tortured above.

If I wrote that title, my prof would send the essay back....;}

I clicked on the article to see if the author was genuine...he was....8D

Real Title:

Case/Shiller Housing Index Worst Ever Reading. Back to 1985 pricing.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   8:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#599. To: All (#598)

Here is the Atlantic Wire with the story:

A new study says that for the first time since the Great Depression, there may be fewer Mexican immigrants coming into the United States than there are moving from the United States back to Mexico. According to the Pew Research Center, the net migration between the U.S. and Mexico over the last five years was essentially zero, and the downward trend suggests that flow of both legal and illegal immigrants may have actually reversed back toward Mexico

There have also been big increases in enforcement, deportations, and border security, although the report also says that arrests of illegal immigrants trying to cross the border has actually plummeted by nearly 75%. Whether that's because fewer people want to come here or they just don't think it's worth the risk is hard to pin down, but the number of folks willing to take the chance is definitely declining..billhicksisdead

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#600. To: All (#599)

There are 240 million voting age Americans. About 130 million will likely vote in the 2012 election based upon recent voter participation results. This means that 110 million Americans don’t give a crap about who runs this country or they’ve come to their senses and realize our votes don’t matter.

Between 1840 and 1900 voter participation ranged between 70% and 82% as Americans took their civic duty seriously and believed their vote counted. Since 1913, when the politicians relinquished control of our currency to a private bank controlled by a small group of powerful men, voter participation for President has ranged between 49% and 62%.

It hasn’t surpassed 57% since 1968.

www.theburningplatform.com/?p=32878

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#601. To: All (#600)

" So the USA seems to be pottering on in its own way with the lobbyists and Wall Street fixing it with the President to ignore a Congress which they have bought anyway whilst a Presidential election is going on.

But all is not well there and the stresses are beginning to show. Whilst the Empires of Europe have long crumbled into corrupt foreign adventurism the USA could well be soon at the point when the policy engine of Manifest Destiny, central to its thinking since 1823 goes into reverse.

My Edit: Great 1820 Map of North America....;}

thecynicaltendency.blogsp...-of-manifest-destiny.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#602. To: All (#600)

"Neither party wants the American people to understand the truth about what happened to our economy and jobs over the last 100 years. It has been a bipartisan screw job and ignoring the facts doesn’t change them.

The first fact that can’t be ignored is how many Americans are actually unemployed today. Here is some truth you won’t get from a politician or media talking head:

* There are 243 million working age Americans.

* There are 142 million employed Americans.

* Only 101 million of the employed Americans are working more than 35 hours per week. This means that only 41.6% of all working age Americans have a full-time job.

* According to the government drones at the BLS, 88 million Americans have “chosen” to not be in the labor force – the highest level in U.S. history.

* The percentage of Americans in the workforce at 63.8% is the lowest since 1980 and down from a peak of 67.1% in 2000. The difference between these two percentages is 8 million Americans.

* The BLS reports there are only 12.7 million unemployed Americans in the country, down from 15.3 million in 2009.

* The BLS reports the unemployment rate has dropped from 10% in late 2009 to 8.3% today. Over this time frame the working age population grew by 5.7 million, while the number of employed Americans grew by 3.6 million. Only a government drone could interpret this data and report a dramatic decline in the unemployment rate.

www.theburningplatform.com/?p=32878

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#603. To: All (#602)

Britain's economy has fallen into its second recession since the financial crisis after an shock contraction at the start of 2012, heaping pressure on Prime Minister David Cameron's government as it reels from a series of political missteps."

Translation:

Since Britain never left Recession 2007, it's now in a Depression.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#604. To: All (#603)

And you wouldn't know over here in the USSA that Murdoch's career is over.

"Britain's Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition has seen its support crumble after weeks of criticism over unpopular tax measures in last month's budget, and is under further pressure from revelations about its close links with media tycoon Rupert Murdoch.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#605. To: All (#604)

This data is so twisted that there is absolutely no doubt the Federal Government is purposely manipulating the numbers to make the economic situation appear better than the reality.

During the Great Depression propaganda and spin had not been perfected. There weren’t multiple definitions of unemployment designed to confuse and mislead the public. The peak level of unemployment in the 1930s was 25%. The current reported level is 8.3%.

On a comparable basis to the 1930s, including short-term discouraged workers, those forced to work part-time, and the long-term discouraged workers which were defined out of existence in 1994 by the BLS, the real unemployment rate is 22% today. It feels like a depression for millions of Americans because it is a depression.

www.theburningplatform.com/?p=32878

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   10:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#606. To: All (#605) (Edited)

Less than 1/2 of 2012 college grads will get jobs.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   11:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#607. To: Fred Mertz (#595)

I saw Arkansas took another former Louisville football coach

You're not the first to notice that...;}

'A bit zany' has definitley made the rounds...;}

AD Long had a choice:

1) Spend Big on a coach who would bring in his own people.

2) Keep the Top 5 program on track thru 2012.

As long as he has good 'time out' skills.

And the Flagship has a butt load of money (Petrino left $20 million on the table) and the entire Razorback (WalMart/Tyson/Donrey) foundation is on board.

We'll be there at Bowl time....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   12:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#608. To: Brian S (#596) (Edited)

Nice and decent fellow but lousy coach while at MSU.

Heard that as well.

It's why JLS has 'interim' in his title.

He loses to LSU/Bama/ and 2 others and we'll be satisfied.

If he beats either and only loses 2, well, that's the cut off.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   12:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#609. To: Fred Mertz (#597)

I really didn't pay attention to John L. after he departed but your comments stir up some vague memories of his time at MSU.

The take away for me is that MSU thought he was qualified to begin with....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   12:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#610. To: mcgowanjm (#607)

We'll be there at Bowl time....;}

I hope so and good luck next season.

Better luck on picking a Kentucky Derby winner this year. The exotic bet payouts will be sky high. I hope lady luck smiles upon me this year.

I shouldn't say this but Petrino's girlfriend's choppers could rival some Derby starters this year;^)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-25   12:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#611. To: A K A Stone (#0)

When Newscorp’s lobbyist Frederic Michel referred to Hunt’s tip-off about progress as ‘illegal actually!’ James Murdoch told Leveson Counsel Robert Jay, “Look, I don’t understand the niceties of Westminster…it was obviously just a joke”. But there is no greater sick joke in 2012 than the way these profoundly disgusting people – Murdoch, Michel, Hunt, Cameron – expect us to believe such obvious rubbish.

We should not see these soon-to-be cadavers cavorting about on the scaffold as in any way unrelated to the social, fiscal, financial, and economic problems of the West in general and Europe in particular. They are all part of the same decadent, obscenely degenerate Undead running the affairs of our unfortunate planet Earth:

Blankfein, Lagarde, Sarkozy, Draghi, Merkel, Geithner, Putin, Swan, Gillard, Mandelson, van Rompuy, Diamond and a few thousand others determined to do for us – we know not why. But until they are all a distant, nigthmarish memory, we will never have charge of our own destinies again.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   22:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#612. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The mass media exist to control the masses by shaping our perceptions of reality. The pap they feed us switches off our brains, so we can’t analyze society as a system. Instead of thought, we are offered a dazzling array of personal emotions and sensory stimulation to distract us from the bleak reality of our lives.

Through entertainment and news the media fixates us on physical violence, so we don’t perceive the structural violence that causes it. We get lurid, fear-arousing accounts of violence committed by ghetto youths and Muslim guerrillas accompanied with commentaries calling for tough measures to combat these vicious berserkers. We get no accounts of the structural violence of poverty and oppression that capitalism and imperialism have created there. It’s this built-in structural violence that generates the physical violence."

dissidentvoice.org/2012/0...days-of-the-lilliputians/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   7:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#613. To: All (#612)

Greece goes from 10% of it's GDP on war,

to

2.2% per France/German war spending

and Greece has no default/insolvency problem.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   7:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#614. To: Fred Mertz (#610)

I shouldn't say this but Petrino's girlfriend's choppers could rival some Derby starters this year;^)

Volleyball women are sleek thoroughbreds.

They're legs are to die for....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   7:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#615. To: All (#614)

European Confidence Tumbles To November 2009 Levels, Euro-Wide Double Dip Inevitable Tyler Durden's picture Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/26/2012 05:52 -0400

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   8:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#616. To: All (#615)

Note how the Markets began celebrating the Greater Depression.

These and other 'Depression' articles come out just as the Markets go Zombie, where they are to this day.

#

# Simon Johnson:Is Europe on the Verge of a Depression, or a Great ... economix.blogs.nytimes.co...ge-of-a-depressi...Cached

Nov 10, 2011 – If European leaders cannot agree on how to stabilize their financial system, chaos and inflation seem sure to follow, an economist writes.

Europe crisis hit with 'deep depression' warning; every EU nation's ... economictimes.indiatimes.com › Budget 2012 › NewsCached

Nov 29, 2011 – According to OECD, crisis was now just one step away from plunging advanced economies into an abyss of recession & trigger waves of ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   9:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#617. To: A K A Stone (#0)

87 comments to State officials shut down shrimping in Gulf amid scientists finding deformities and ‘horrifying creatures’ — Media attributes closure to lesions, then retracts

* charlie3 April 26, 2012 at 10:14 am Log in to Reply

There was a time when the Gulf was like some picture of paradise, and immensely full of healthy sea and bird life. There was nothing better than a swim on the beach there. I can't believe how ugly we have made this planet over the course of my lifetime.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   21:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#618. To: All (#617)

Someone just lost a fortune in the Mad Cow industry....;}

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=LC&cot=057642&p=m5

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   21:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#619. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"Lower-than-expected health care use has helped insurers in the past several quarters, and it factored into the 73 percent earnings gain Aetna reported in February for last year's fourth quarter. But Aetna and other insurers have said they expect use to return to more normal levels this year, which means they pay more claims, as consumers who were pinched during the recession start to feel more comfortable about their finances.....8D

"as consumers who were pinched during the recession start to feel more comfortable about their finances.....and realize they'll never get better...

FIFY....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   8:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#620. To: All (#619)

Procter & Gamble Co. (PG) -NYSE

66.87 Apr 26, 4:01PM EDT|Pre-Market: 65.00 Down 1.87 (2.80%) 7:59AM EDT - Nasdaq Real Time Price

"The maker of Tide detergent and Olay skin cream says net income fell 16 percent to $2.41 billion, or 82 cents per share. That compares with $2.87 billion, or 96 cents per share last year.

Consumer product companies have been raising prices to deal with higher costs for materials like fuel and packaging.

Consumers unfazed by 'raising prices' because they feel better about the economy. And can print money and borrow all they need just like the banksters....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   8:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#621. To: All (#620)

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. said Friday its net income fell by 45 percent in the first quarter as European sales plummeted and the company paid higher taxes.

The company announced it will try to cut its pension costs by offering lump-sum payments to about 90,000 U.S. white-collar retirees and former employees. Ford said it is the largest such offer in U.S. history. Payouts will start later this year and come from pension plan assets. Ford doesn't yet know how much the plan will cost....

but that doesn't matter because F can print money and borrow just like the banksters.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   8:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#622. To: mcgowanjm (#621)

but that doesn't matter because F can print money and borrow just like the banksters.....;}

You're cracking me up this morning. Thanks!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-27   8:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#623. To: All (#621)

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. said Friday its net income fell by 45 percent in the first quarter as European sales plummeted and the company paid higher taxes

U.S. stock futures rose, indicating the Standard and Poor’s 500 Index will cap the biggest weekly rally in a month, amid better-than-estimated results at companies including Amazon (AMZN).com Inc. and Ford Motor Co. (F) .....

LMFAO

# Amazon Surges After Hours On After-Tax Accounting ... - Zero Hedge www.zerohedge.com/.../ama...hours-after-tax-account... You +1'd this publicly. Undo 15 hours ago – Either the algos are getting really stupid, or nobody cares at all about the quality of earnings any more. Case in point - Amazon, which was ...

Amazon Slides After Missing Revenues Expectations ... - Zero Hedge www.zerohedge.com/.../ama...-revenues-expect...Cached

Jan 31, 2012 – Amazon slides 10% after hours as it reports much weaker revenues of $17.43 billion on expectations of $18.26 billion. EPS are not really ...

Cost Cutting is CorpsSpeak for taking employees out back and shooting them.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   8:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#624. To: Fred Mertz (#622)

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   8:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#625. To: All (#624)

In a move to further ease and relax the consumer, the Markets have jointly confirmed that the color 'Red' will no longer be used for it's indicators.

'Black' and/or 'Green' are all we really need. 'Red' is superfluous. And thus un necessary....;}

Eurozone Retail Sales Plunge at Strongest Pace Since Late-2008; German Retail Sales Plunge Into Contraction; French Retail Sales Plunge at Record Pace; Record Job Losses, Record Retail Plunge in Italy

The word of the day is plunge. Retail sales fell like a rock in Germany and fell at a record pace in France. -Mish

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   9:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#626. To: All (#625)

Again Mish. This time about Greece taking money from accounts of suspected tax cheats....trials later....in other words, all accounts are criminal until proven otherwise...;}

"Anyone with any common sense has already pulled all of their money out of Greek banks. However, the unthinking masses probably have not. This move will without a doubt cause more than a few to worry about accusations, true or false, and in the case of the latter, the illegal confiscation of money.

Expect to see a further plunge in money kept at Greek banks. Also expect capital flight of another kind: human capital. With this kind of crackdown, anyone capable of leaving would be wise to leave Greece immediately."

" With this kind of crackdown, anyone capable of leaving would be wise to leave Greece immediately."

Back around 1935, the same warnings were given in Germany. On the Titanic, the first life boats left 1/2 empty.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   9:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#627. To: All (#626) (Edited)

Triple digits scorch old high : San Angelo Standard Times www.gosanangelo.com/news/...pril-24-record/?...Cached

1 day ago – The normal high temperature for April 25 is 83 degrees. ... In 1925, San Angelo recorded 107 degrees on April 19, the highest ... And, yes, that will set another hot weather record (the old high for April 26 is 99, set in 1943).

RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN ANGELO TX 606 PM CDT THU APR 26 2012

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SAN ANGELO... ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE TIED AT ABILENE... ...RECORD HIGH MINIMUM TEMPERATURE SET AT SAN ANGELO AND ABILENE...

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 105 DEGREES WAS SET AT SAN ANGELO TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 99 DEGREES SET IN 1943.

THE RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 96 DEGREES WAS TIED AT ABILENE TODAY. THIS TIED THE OLD RECORD OF 96 DEGREES SET IN 1984.

THE LOW TEMPERATURE OF 74 DEGREES BROKE THE OLD RECORD HIGH MINIMUM AT ABILENE OF 70 DEGREES SET IN 2009.

THE LOW TEMPERATURE OF 73 DEGREES BROKE THE OLD RECORD HIGH MINIMUM AT SAN ANGELO OF 72 DEGREES SET IN 1963.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   9:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#628. To: mcgowanjm (#627)

RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN ANGELO TX 606 PM CDT THU APR 26 2012

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SAN ANGELO... ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE TIED AT ABILENE... ...RECORD HIGH MINIMUM TEMPERATURE SET AT SAN ANGELO AND ABILENE...

Yes, quite warm yesterday at baseball practice, but it does get warm this time of year in Texas. By late May we no longer get "cool fronts" in Central TX.

Are you a global warming type?

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-27   11:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#629. To: redleghunter (#628)

but it does get warm this time of year in Texas. By late May we no longer get "cool fronts" in Central TX.

No need to explain Texas to me.

I was born there....;}

Texas and me have a history. And we get your weather about a month later in Arkansas.

And, yes, it gets warm in Texas in April. But not 100 degrees warm.

83's average. Get ready for an ABC Hurricane to break the drought in August.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   9:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#630. To: All (#629)

Texas is losing trees.

Lots.

Ozone.

"And then to top it off, the "man who loves trees" almost as much as he loves himself had yet another stupid anthropocentric article in the HuffPo, to which I commented after this quote from him:

"They sweep air pollution out of the air in our cities and suburbs and clean water through their complex root system."

That's great, Jim Robbins. What happens to those trees that are absorbing our pollution through their leaves and roots? Ozone gives people cancer and other fatal diseases. It does even much worse things to trees. It rots their roots making them more vulnerable to drought and wind, and rots their interiors making branches break. Ozone and acid rain make them lose their natural resistance to insects, disease and fungus. Pollution lowers their production of nuts, seeds, and fruits so they can't reproduce. If you really care about trees so much, why not talk about that?

He of course blames warmer winters for bark beetles: "They are dying all around us in the American West. I came to realize what climate change can do to trees when bark beetles, their season lengthened by unusually warm winters, attacked trees on my 15 acres of pine forest in Montana," conveniently ignoring the fact that the first ever proven case of trees dying from bark beetle infestation, thanks to a compromised immunity from exposure to ozone, was from back in the 1950's in the extraordinarily polluted hills above Los Angeles, where it NEVER approaches extended winter freeze.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   9:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#631. To: All (#630)

And one more thing the Bottom 90% don't get.

"#

#

Mike on Sat, 28th Apr 2012 6:43 am

We seem to have an obsession with “breaking points”. A while back many were claiming $100/barrel was the ugly horizon. We’ve been there a while.

I think we will continue to see roughly linear effect as prices rise (as they have been). Slow economy becomes more sluggish. We have seen demand fall off in developed countries WITHOUT the usual drop in prices. Other demand (Chindia) is stepping in to fill the gap.

I don’t know what the breaking point is, but the broke point is back under $2.00 a gallon with few buyers…because the economy has failed in a big way."

"I think we will continue to see roughly linear effect..."

Quantum Science replaces Newtonian Law. Once you've gone parabolic, you don't reach asymptote and then level out.

As you drop off the other side, as 'Mike on Sat' alludes to, your 'waste' catches up with you. You hit the 'fat tail' and begin Non Linear 'breaks'.

On the way down to baseline.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   9:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#632. To: All (#631)

We seem to have an obsession with “breaking points”.

And I don't see hardly anyone obsessing over

'break points' which is another term for Non Linear.

Anyone who does is relegated to LaLa padded cells...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   9:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#633. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Bottom is in on Housing, the Recovery is here with the Economy,

so

go borrow some (more) money from your parents

and

start a business.....no source.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-29   7:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#634. To: A K A Stone, harrowup, wethepeople, All (#0)

#87. To: mcgowanjm (#81)

Great thread. I'm posting it to mcgowanjm wire.

Don't forget to source me as the reason it is great.

I'll trust you to comply since I don't read your wire or Brad's whatever.

Had enough trouble with Brad's Gramma already.

By the way, does anyone remember the time someone asked 'Brad' what was the scariest thing he ever heard? He said it's when "Gramma says Aunt Bee is Coming for the weekend.

Note to lurkers...that is bait so huge it might as well be C-4.

NOW, I must go to lunch.

harrowup posted on 2012-04-28

Consider yourself sourced, Hup....;}

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...?ArtNum=29746&Disp=89#C89

"I'll trust you to comply since I don't read your wire or Brad's whatever." What a hoot....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-29   7:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#635. To: All (#634) (Edited)

The arrest has prompted the worst diplomatic row between the two regional powerhouses since Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries broke off diplomatic ties with Egypt after it signed a peace deal with Israel in 1979. Diplomatic relations were restored in 1987.

Saudi Arabia said on Saturday it had recalled its ambassador from Egypt for "consultation" and would close its embassy and consulates in the Arab nation.

And 1987's 'reconciliation' is based on the Asymptote of USSA power....the price of gasoline...$.65 cents in Ft Worth....;}

www.randomuseless.info/gasprice/gasprice.png

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-29   7:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#636. To: All (#635)

The employees union for the workers at Orion Bus in Oriskany says that all 538 workers will be laid off sometime in the next two years, and that the layoffs are only a matter of when.

Tim Banas at the United Auto Workers Union said that at least 12 employees at Orion were laid off Thursday morning and that the company expects to lay off more in the days to come.

On Wednesday, Daimler announce that it would stop all production on new bus orders at the Oriskany-based company, but would continue bus maintenance work. This is why I am so convinced we are heading towards collapse. For years now we have been making all the wrong decisions at the worst possible time, and I see no reason why that will not continue.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-29   7:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#637. To: All (#636)

Housing Crash Porn: One Million More Suckers Now Underwater

billhicksisdead.blogspot....sh-porn-one-million-mor...

We have arrived at the point where all of the biggest frauds preying upon working and middle class families are now a combined effort of the banks, big corporations and the federal government. Mortgages and student loans are just two of the largest such swindles--and they very much tie in together since those who have been saddled with large amounts of the latter can hardly afford to take out one of the former, even at these insanely low interest rates.

How any impartial observer can look at what is happening in these sectors as not realize that a huge crackup is coming is beyond my puny powers of comprehension.

Interest rates cannot fall much farther, and when they do finally start to rise, they are going to kill what little does remain of the housing market. Anyone inclined to believe the latest call from just this past week that "the bottom is in" and is planning to buy a house is a sheep not only about the be sheared but eventually slaughtered.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-29   9:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#638. To: mcgowanjm (#637)

How about those Texas Rangers!

Lewis sets tone as Rangers end Rays' run By Dave Sessions / Special to MLB.com | 4/29/2012 12:50 AM ET

ARLINGTON -- Colby Lewis gave up an early home run and walked three times as many batters as he had in the previous four games combined, but there was no reason for the Rangers right-hander to panic in a 7-2 victory over the Rays on Saturday.

That's partly because Lewis had only walked one batter all season entering the night, having faced 104 consecutive batters over 25 2/3 innings without issuing a free pass. But the simplest reason for Lewis' fortitude is that he knew he was pitching with the Rangers' electric defense behind him and their explosive offense in support of him.

Lewis was unimpressed with his own performance, but raved about the play of his team.

"I felt like I didn't really have a whole lot," Lewis said. "I felt like I kind of battled at times. But overall, it worked out."

It always seems to work out for the Rangers. After Saturday's win, Texas leads the Major Leagues in hitting (.297) and is second in fielding (.989). Lewis was the beneficiary of quintessential examples of both: a two-run single by Josh Hamilton that gave the Rangers the lead for good in the first inning; a gorgeous glove-flip to second base by Elvis Andrus that enabled a crucial sixth- inning double play; and an Adrian Beltre three-run homer that punished Tampa Bay for intentionally walking Hamilton in the seventh.

Andrus' play, with nobody out and a man on first as the Rays threatened the Rangers' 3-1 lead in the seventh, was certainly the game's most dazzling. In a play similar to his World Series Game 6 highlight from last postseason, Andrus showed his range by getting to a ball far to his left, then showed his innate sense of where second base is -- and his flair for the dramatic -- by flipping the ball with his glove to waiting second baseman Michael Young.

Young turned two and said after the game that he considers such theatrics by Andrus to be "routine plays" by now.

"If I get to the bag," Young said, "I know it's going to be on its way."

While Tampa Bay made two costly errors that led to runs, the Rangers ran down faraway fly balls and dug out tough grounders.

"We can play defense," manager Ron Washington said. "It's something that we respect -- something that we take pride in.

"I'm not surprised by anything they do out there. You put it in the air, if you got a hump in it, it's coming down in the glove. You put it on the ground, if they can get to it, it's going to be thrown to the first baseman."

Lewis pushed his record to 3-0 and lowered his ERA to 1.93, further solidifying his reputation as the Rangers' most unflappable starter thus far in 2012.

Lewis has allowed homers in four of his five starts, including Matt Joyce's shot to start the second inning on Saturday, but Lewis has yet to allow more than one homer.

Lewis threw 96 pitches on Saturday, but only 56 strikes. Yet, the control issues didn't rattle the right-hander, who turned in six solid innings and benefited from ample run support.

The Rangers broke the game open at 7-1 when Rays manager Joe Maddon elected to walk Hamilton to face Beltre, who hit a three-run home run, his fourth of 2012.

"You always want to hit in those situations," Beltre said. "I don't want them to walk him, I want him to get some pitches to hit, too. ... But I'm always gonna be up to the challenge. My job is trying to do a better job, so maybe they'll think a little bit harder and pitch to him."

Maddon preferred to face the right-handed hitter against right-handed pitcher Burke Badenhop, and the move backfired.

"The chances of either one of those guys putting the ball on the ground against Badenhop are about equal," Maddon said. "But Josh has just been so darn hot, let's go with the other guy, maybe get a nice ground ball somewhere and stay out of the big inning. But it didn't work out that way."

Alexi Ogando pitched a 1-2-3 seventh and Mike Adams yielded one run in the eighth before Koji Uehara worked a perfect ninth to seal the win.

Rays starter Jeff Niemann allowed five hits and walked one in falling to 1-3 this season.

Dave Sessions is a contributor to MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-29   12:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#639. To: mcgowanjm (#637)

Giant cannibal shrimp more than a FOOT long invade waters off Gulf Coast

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-29   16:43:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#640. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"When civilizations start to die they go insane. Let the ice sheets in the Arctic melt. Let the temperatures rise. Let the air, soil and water be poisoned. Let the forests die. Let the seas be emptied of life. Let one useless war after another be waged. Let the masses be thrust into extreme poverty and left without jobs while the elites, drunk on hedonism, accumulate vast fortunes through exploitation, speculation, fraud and theft. Reality, at the end, gets unplugged.

We live in an age when news consists of Snooki’s pregnancy, Hulk Hogan’s sex tape and Kim Kardashian’s denial that she is the naked woman cooking eggs in a photo circulating on the Internet.

-Phil Rockstruh

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#641. To: All (#640)

"The one really good thing, that I don't dispute, that you can do with a good FICO score is buy a house with a fixed-rate mortgage and get a lower interest rate that can save you a ton of money over the life of the loan," he says. "But other than that, there is really nothing you can do with a high FICO score."

In fact, he says, a good FICO score often leads to a bad FICO score, because people are able to take advantage, and often do, of unnecessary credit that ultimately leads to more debt.

One prime example is a car loan, which he says you should never take out in the first place. "The best thing people can do for their lives, in terms of happiness, is to avoid monthly payments entirely whenever possible," he says.

Forget New, Buy Used

Buying a used car these days not mean driving a vehicle with 100,000 miles and severe maintenance issues, Bissonnette says. Used cars are not only cheap but safe drive too. His suggestion is to buy a used car for just a couple thousand dollars. Not only will your bottom line not suffer from instant depreciation of the car the moment you drive it off the lot, you will also not likely need to buy collision insurance.

finance.yahoo.com/blogs/d...nnette-123953305.html?l=1

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#642. To: redleghunter (#638)

How about those Texas Rangers!

We got your Beltran...thanx....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#643. To: mcgowanjm (#641)

My F150 is approaching 200,000 miles.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-30   9:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#644. To: redleghunter (#639)

Oil Platforms/rigs are good for the Gulf.

signed Exxon

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#645. To: A K A Stone (#643)

My F150 is approaching 200,000 miles.

I've found an excellent machine shop.

Rebuilt my engine for $3800.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#646. To: mcgowanjm (#645)

Mine is still running strong. The transmission went out a little over a year ago. Took it to Brownies. They tried to rip me off. Then towed it to Craigs Transmission on Keowee Street. They did it for half the price and it runs great today.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-30   9:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#647. To: A K A Stone (#646)

I think trannies are Ford's achilles.

My F-150 lost it's as well.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#648. To: All (#641)

"When civilizations start to die they go insane. Let the ice sheets in the Arctic melt. Let the temperatures rise. Let the air, soil and water be poisoned. Let the forests die. Let the seas be emptied of life. Let one useless war after another be waged. Let the masses be thrust into extreme poverty and left without jobs while the elites, drunk on hedonism, accumulate vast fortunes through exploitation, speculation, fraud and theft. Reality, at the end, gets unplugged. We live in an age when news consists of Snooki’s pregnancy, Hulk Hogan’s sex tape and Kim Kardashian’s denial that she is the naked woman cooking eggs in a photo circulating on the Internet.-Chris Hedges

"that the mainstream media and the government officials were all bribed or intimidated by Merck’s lawyers, lobbyists, and advertising budget into averting their eyes or holding their tongues. But from 2004 onwards, huge numbers of America’s toughest trial lawyers were suing Merck for billions based on Vioxx casualties – didn’t they notice the dramatic drop in the national death rate? “

“The inescapable conclusion is that in today’s world and in the opinion of our own media, American lives are quite cheap, unlike those in China.” “Besides,” says Unz laughing, “it shows the stupidity of our political leaders that they didn’t seize upon this great opportunity. They should have just renamed Vioxx the ‘Save Social Security Drug,’ and distributed it free in very large doses to everyone, starting on their 65th birthday. Maybe they should have even made it mandatory, three times per day.

"So the CEO is the point failure mechanism where if he or she goes bad, almost everything may go bad as well. So all those things that we call internal and external controls, all report to the CEO and the CEO therefore can, as I’ll describe, use compensation, hiring, firing, praise, and such to produce the environment that will commit, create allies for his fraud. Now, note that what I’m saying.

The CEO, the art of this is not to defeat your controls. The elegant solution as in mathematics is to suborn the controls and turn them into your most valuable allies. And therefore, for example, when you’re running accounting control fraud where your weapon of fraud is accounting and that weapon of choice in finance is accounting. You’re going to want to hire the most prestigious accountants as your outside auditors because it is precisely their reputation that is most valuable when you can suborn them. -Bill Black, Control Fraud

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   10:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#649. To: All (#648)

Why does the boiling frog story apply to people if not to actual frogs? The answer is simple. Human beings are built to adapt to new conditions. Generally speaking, they don't notice gradual change, they simply get used to it. People were designed by Nature to react quickly to sudden changes. They were not designed to notice that this year, and for many years before that, conditions got a little worse than they were the year before. Humans live in an eternal present. This observation is well-known to those who study such things. It is not original with me.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   10:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#650. To: All (#649)

A second incredible advantage is the CEO can optimize the firm as a weapon of fraud. And the< CEO can do that. Basically, this falls into two big categories. One, you can put it in assets that have no readily verifiable market value because then it's a lot easier to inflate asset valuations and to hide real losses. And the second thing you do is grow like crazy. And, of course, that is the essence of something your listeners have all heard about, and that is a Ponzi scheme. And so these accounting control frauds have strong Ponzi-scheme like elements, which is why they tend to cause such catastrophic losses.

Now combine this with the F-35 program and you get the biggest fraud possible.

Each 'Flying Piano' costing $161 Million with only 20% of flight tests completed.

Well over $1 Trillion with Op costs included....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   10:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#651. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

US Not Reporting All Afghan Attacks

The Associated Press has learned that the U.S.-led military coalition in Afghanistan is under-reporting the number of times that Afghan soldiers and police open fire on American and other foreign troops.

The coalition routinely reports attacks in which a coalition soldier is killed by an Afghan in uniform. But it does not report the instances in which an Afghan wounds U.S. or NATO troops or misses his target.

Officials acknowledge the attacks are a worrisome problem for the U.S. and its military partners as they work increasingly closely with Afghan troops in preparation for handing off security responsibility.

The AP learned that just last week, two U.S. soldiers were wounded when Afghan policemen opened fire on them. The Afghans were quickly killed, and the incident was not reported by the international coalition.

Copyright 2012 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.

Limited Hang Out. Those soldiers were killed.

"While unacceptable, the military’s systematic under-reporting of these incidents is not surprising. Support for the war – which has hit all-time lows in recent weeks – depends upon favorable information getting out. If the information doesn’t reflect well on the war, it is liable to be hidden from the people. Last 5 posts by John Glaser

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#652. To: All (#651)

We just had a no-growth quarter, but it doesn't count because the BEA used a custom deflator.

And thus we are forced to conclude that life in 21st century America is like living in a hall of mirrors. Every reflection we see is distorted almost beyond recognition. After it is final, the official 1st quarter GDP number will be cited over and over again by economists everywhere. Every one of these economists will ignore the deflator distortion. Obama will use the number to tell us the economy is growing, but not fast enough to create more jobs. The hall of mirrors just goes on and on and on.

Welcome to the Fun House. Or, to borrow the title of one of Kurt Vonnegut's books, Welcome to The Monkey House.

Domestic & Foreign.....two sides of the same coin....wake up and lie.

BTW, you can turn on your tv and be the 99,000 +1 to be watching CNBC....LMFAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#653. To: All (#652)

MAY DAY:

Spain enters Greatest Depression. Will not be leaving.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#654. To: All (#653)

MAY DAY:

Murdoch deemed unfit to run a global company Email this post Print this post By Kiron Sarkar - May 1st, 2012, 9:30AM

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#655. To: All (#654)

On the heels of that announcement, more details have emerged and they suggest the Federal security apparatus has completely lost its marbles.

Via Off Grid Survival

The Illinois Department of Transportation is testing an emergency plan to shut off access into and out of downtown Chicago. The plan uses a network of highway security gates that are designed to shut down all traffic coming in and out of Chicago in the event of a terrorist attack.

The Illinois DOT is warning truckers that it’s best to avoid the city during the NATO Summit in Chicago May 20-21. There will be a number of driving restrictions and rolling street closures, and the Illinois DOT is testing highway barricades that will block access to all major highways in and out of Chicago.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#656. To: All (#655)

HAPPY MAY DAY CHICAGO!!!...;}

Starting May 1st, a full three weeks before the NATO Summit, the Federal Government will be setting up a Militarized Red Zone in the streets of Downtown Chicago.

In a Chicago Sun Time Article:

The head of Chicago’s NATO Host Committee said Thursday she was blindsided by the federal government’s decision to create a militarized “Red Zone” in the Loop to protect federal buildings in the run-up to the May 20-21 summit at McCormick Place.

The news of federal agents on the streets of Chicago isn’t sitting well with many. From last months urban warfare drills, to residents being warned of possible citywide evacuations, the city of Chicago is starting to look like a city that may already be under martial law.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#657. To: mcgowanjm (#651)

US Not Reporting All Afghan Attacks

The Associated Press has learned that the U.S.-led military coalition in Afghanistan is under-reporting the number of times that Afghan soldiers and police open fire on American and other foreign troops.

Yes I did see that mentioned somewhere this morning or last night.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-01   10:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#658. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Heavy fighting taking place in Zamindawar Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Tuesday, 09 Jamadil Akhir 1433 Tuesday, 01 May 2012 14:51 HELMAND, May. 01 – Heavy fighting has been taking place in Zamindawar Sozigar area, Kajaki district since yesterday morning when Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate engaged cowardly US invaders that landed by helicopters in the area for an operation. The fighting is still ongoing today (10:00 am), more details about which will be updated later.

And that was the State's Munich Beer garden Speech Circa November 8, 1942....;}

www.reuters.com/article/2...ama-idUSBRE8401CJ20120502

"Obama's campaign has questioned whether Romney would have made the same decision to authorize the raid that killed bin Laden. On Tuesday in New York Romney said he would have made the same call and criticized Obama for making the issue political.

Politics aside, a senior U.S. official cautioned that no matter what pacts are signed, "Afghanistan is still going to be the third poorest country in the world."

"This is still going to be tough," the official said, adding that the expectation was that the Afghan government will be able to maintain basic security.

That skepticism is shared by the European Union's ambassador to Kabul, who said earlier on Tuesday that Western aid that has been poured into Afghanistan will have a limited impact as long as governance remained poor and corruption widespread.

Afghanistan's government doesn't seem to grasp the magnitude of major challenges just two years ahead of the pullout, Vygaudas Usackas told Reuters in an interview.

"The Afghans have to be in the driving seat," he said. "Probably we made them complacent."

That's All Folks....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   20:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#659. To: mcgowanjm (#658)

And that was the State's Munich Beer garden Speech Circa November 8, 1942....;}

I placed third in situps at the Cub Scout Munich Olympics back in about 78 or 79. Our team also placed really high up in the Medley relay.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-01   20:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#660. To: A K A Stone (#0)

1970-75.

we're somewhere in there now. Expect to lose our colonies now.

Markets find out we're retreating from the Afghans:

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=ES&cot=138741,13874A&p=m5

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   21:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#661. To: A K A Stone (#659)

Cub Scout Munich Olympics back in about 78 or 79.

Expect this then. Same as 1978-79 plus 1970 -75....;}

#

# Boycott of Agricultural Products over the Afghan Invasion www.livinghistoryfarm.org...he70s/money_06.htmlCached

Carter decided to embargo or cancel the remaining Soviet grain purchases, estimated to be worth around $2.6 billion. In addition, the administration stopped the ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   21:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#662. To: A K A Stone (#657)

Yes I did see that mentioned somewhere this morning or last night.

;}

Nicely implanted by the fabulous AgitProp Limited Hang Out Dept.

Brian Williams: 'As you may have heard, the US has been.....

They're high fiving somewhere in Langley, Hollywood, and NYC.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   21:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#663. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Perfect:

May Day, 1971....

"Hey, it was right around the time that the loss in Vietnam was sinking in. The Establishment figured they’d take their victories any way they could, and celebrate them shamelessly.

Thanks to the brave reporting by the New York Times, Americans were shown a photograph of an enemy-saboteur at work–some scared looking fool letting the air out of someone’s car tire–to let the Silent Majority know what was at stake here:

The subsequent triumphalism was embarrassing even by American triumphalist standards. Here’s the AP reporting below what victory looked like: “As the rush hour began, traffic flowed smoothly…The demonstrators conceded police and military forces had prevailed.”

Keep this all in mind, Occupy protestors. It’s been this bad and worse before. They will go further than you can possibly imagine–and the media will lie and cover the oligarchy’s backside every step of the way. It’s a class war of attrition, so be prepared for the long haul.

exiledonline.com/recovere...c-stadium-prison-in-1971/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   7:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#664. To: All (#663) (Edited)

Fast Forward to

May Day, 2012

Obama sneaks in and out of Kabul in the darkness of night to announce the End of the Afghan Invasion.

"The billionaire elite who run this country are not stupid. During the Vietnam War and Watergate eras they saw quite clearly how dangerous to the centers of power television in particular can be when the medium is at least partly in the hands of real journalists and other people who care about objective truth. Abby Hoffman knew it, which is why he once said,

"A modern revolutionary group heads for the television station, not the factory. It concentrates its energy on infiltrating and changing the image system." That's what this relentless glorification of vacuous celebrities is all about.

Corporate America cannot risk the media focusing on serious issues like our hollowed out economy, our rapidly changing climate, the degradation of the environment and wars being fought in the name of profits, so it gives the masses glitz and spectacle to keep their minds occupied instead.

-BillHicksisdead

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   7:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#665. To: All (#664)

"This past weekend in our politics, it was look-how-far-over-to-the-dark-side-we've-crawled time.

Just as the various celebrity journalists, celebrity politicians, and celebrity celebrities were about done yucking it up at the White House Correspondents Dinner — and can I just say, for the record, that this is the biggest circle-jerk for the largest circle of jerks that there ever has been, like Guinness-level? — we had an unrepentent torturer shilling for his new book, baring his fangs on 60 Minutes and daring someone to throw him into the clink at The Hague,

and another drone strike on behalf of the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. If there is one thing that would possibly get me to vote for Buddy Roemer and/or the Hemp Party, it would be the dozens of ways, tacit and otherwise, that this administration made peace with the savagery of the previous one, and then proceeded to find ways to be savage itself that seem more capable of stroking the liberal-hawk G-spots.

We begin with Jose Rodriguez on 60 Minutes. Rodriguez once headed the CIA counter-terrorism office and was also its director of operations.

Read more: www.esquire.com/blogs/pol...ook-8484289#ixzz1tiJk9WmT

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   8:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#666. To: A K A Stone, All (#665)

Why Obama was in/out of Kabul between 2 & 6 AM....;}

Martyr attack targeting” Green Village” huge military Camp ends with success; more than 43 invaders killed KABUL, May 02 - The operation was planned hurriedly after finding out about Obama’s “surprise visit” to Afghanistan what was secret visit about which Mujahideen came to know in the later hours of last night and, as a result, “the Green Village” one of the most important and heavily-guarded military base of so-called ISAF, was the quickest target for Mujahideen to smash.

A team of four heroic combatants of Islamic Emirate Ahmad (Parwan province), Muhammad Raza (Kabul), Abdul Bari (Wardak) and Hameed Khan (Takhar), armed with heavy and small arms and explosives, stormed the target, the “Green Village” with Ahmad slamming his explosive-laden vehicle at the gate of the base, rocking the entire base and removing all the security checks and barriers besides flattening some of the rooms where a great number of the security guards were based.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   8:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#667. To: All (#666) (Edited)

^^^;}

The Associated Press

7 Afghans Die as Suicide Attacker Strikes in Kabul New York Times‎ - 6 hours ago

KABUL, Afghanistan — Less than two hours after President Obama left ... Residents living near to the Green Village and people within the ...

#657. To: mcgowanjm (#651)

US Not Reporting All Afghan Attacks

The Associated Press has learned that the U.S.-led military coalition in Afghanistan is under-reporting the number of times that Afghan soldiers and police open fire on American and other foreign troops.

Yes I did see that mentioned somewhere this morning or last night.

A K A Stone posted on 2012-05-01 10:52:57 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   8:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#668. To: All (#667)

Taliban attack in Afghan capital kills at least 7

By AMIR SHAH, Associated Press – 4 hours ago

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Taliban insurgents attacked a compound housing foreigners in the Afghan capital Wednesday, killing seven people, hours after President Barack Obama made a surprise visit and signed a pact governing the U.S. presence after combat troops withdraw.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   8:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#669. To: All (#668)

The violence began around 6 a.m. in eastern Kabul with a series of explosions and gunfire ringing out from the privately guarded compound known as Green Village that houses hundreds of international contractors.

Shooting and blasts shook the city for hours as militants who had stormed into the compound held out against security forces, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.

Taliban version:

"armed with heavy and small arms and explosives, stormed the target, the “Green Village” with Ahmad slamming his explosive-laden vehicle at the gate of the base, rocking the entire base and removing all the security checks and barriers besides flattening some of the rooms where a great number of the security guards were based. Several dozen of the US-NATO and puppets cowardly forces security were killed and wounded. Three out four martyrdom-seeking Mujahideen, after getting into the base, initiated fighting with rockets, heavy and light machine guns, hand grenades and explosive vests till 10 a.m. local time, targeting those inside and killing at least 34 US-Nato forces officers and soldiers as well as taking out more than 9 puppets security guards

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   8:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#670. To: All (#669)

Listen to this BS:

"Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid claimed responsibility for the attack.

"This was a message to Obama that those are not real Afghans that are signing documents about this country," Mujahid said. "The real Afghan nation are those people that are not letting foreign invaders stay in this country or disrespect the dignity of our country."

However, because such complex attacks usually take significant advance planning, it also was possible that the Taliban were capitalizing on fortunate timing. Mujahid said the target was a "foreign military base."

No one was killed except school children....please.

And ' the Taliban were capitalizing on fortunate timing.'

The Occupiers are clueless. Their Leaders are evil.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#671. To: All (#667)

I'll havde to re check but notice the implication by AP of One Attacker/One Bomb.

Al Jazeera has this:

"At least seven people have been killed in several large explosions in the Afghan capital Kabul, shortly after US President Barack Obama paid a surprise visit to the country."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:19:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#672. To: All (#671)

"One of our mujahideen detonated his car in front of a military base," Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told the Reuters news agency in a phone call.

"Other mujahideen are inside the base fighting. There are very heavy casualties for the enemy.

Only schoolchildren live in the Green Zone....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#673. To: All (#672)

Busy day for US Embassy:

"The US embassy in Kabul, said its embassy was "under lockdown" and warned staff to "take cover, move away from the windows".

"Duck and cover here at the embassy. Not a drill - avoid the area," the US embassy said on Twitter."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#674. To: All (#673)

Featured Project:Green Village In 2008 Stratex began the design and construction of Green Village in Kabul, Afghanistan. The intent is to provide life support to International contractors who are mobilizing and stationed in and around Kabul Afghanistan. The creation of Green Village was intended to bring western style living accommodations and standards to our clients stationed in Kabul. Within a short period of time and a booked house, contractors began to call Green Village “Pleasantville”. This secure base camp has not grown to its full potential and with owned adjoining lands, Stratex intends to set the country standard as the leading life support provider and best value. Green Village has a wide array of of anemities and offerings that we believe make it the only place to stay when you're on a job.

Green Village Anemities:

We've strived to make Green Village your home away from home. Green Village offers single/double occupancy rooms. The layouts for the rooms contain a living room, private bath and a bedroom. All rooms are accommodated with a Queen Size bed or Twin Size beds, wall lockers, a coffee table, entertainment center, television, DVD Player, Cable TV and a couch.

Every building is supplied with wireless Internet as with its offices. Green Village is SIPR NET, NIPR NET capable, via either microwave or fiber optics.

Green Village provides a 24 hour dedicated security detachment of professionally trained, former military European and Nepalese Ghurka’s. This armed security detail provides multiple gate guards, static posts, vehicle search’s, ID checks at multiple gates, roving interior patrols, Private Security Details (PSD) teams upon client requests (24 hour notice), certified drivers and language assistance.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#675. To: All (#674)

till 10 a.m. local time, targeting those inside and killing at least 34 US-Nato forces officers and soldiers as well as taking out more than 9 puppets security guards. The operation came as a response to Obama’s visit to Afghanistan and was a worst single-day loss for the US-Nato terrorists after Kabul operation in which Mujahideen had targeted the main ISAF base, and a series of embassies, parliament, presidential house and a number of the enemy’s military bases and posts in Kabul city. It is known to all that no civilian can show up even hundreds of maters away from the any military facility and, in particular, such military facility with strategic importance, no way! Thus the western-influenced mainstream media claims about civilian casualties are absolutely false and everyone knows it."

But notice that the Only casualties are school children....walking by...at 6 AM.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#676. To: All (#675)

500 Kiloton Hydrogen Bomb Goes Missing in a World of Absurdly High Tech Surveillance By CRONKITE – Wed May 2, 2012 10:38am – No Comments – 22 views

“I will keep this short as possible. A single nuclear weapon has “gone missing” as of last week, one of four missing but this one “more missing” than the others.

The Thames Valley Police, famous for their fictional representations in the Colin Dexter detective novels, detained a high ranking government security officer, department to remain unnamed, at the behest of what we are told is the Home Secretary. …”

Just in case that NATO/Chicago thing gets out of hand. Or

A Dolphin Class sub does something around MENA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   11:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#677. To: mcgowanjm, cz82, mininggold, lucysmom, war, ferret mike, capitalist eric (#670)

Listen to this BS:

"Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid claimed responsibility for the attack.

"This was a message to Obama that those are not real Afghans that are signing documents about this country," Mujahid said.

What is Obama doing signing a document with them for. It isn't legitimate. What is the legal affect of the President signing a document with a foreign nation. It is the Senate the makes treaties.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-02   23:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#678. To: mcgowanjm (#674)

So I heard a rumour that they found all of the money that Corzine and his cronies at MF Global stole.......

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-03   7:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#679. To: mcgowanjm (#656)

Starting May 1st, a full three weeks before the NATO Summit, the Federal Government will be setting up a Militarized Red Zone in the streets of Downtown Chicago.

Perhaps this is the prelude to the UN setting up its occupation government in Odingaland:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-03   12:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#680. To: A K A Stone (#677)

What is Obama doing signing a document with them for. It isn't legitimate. What is the legal affect of the President signing a document with a foreign nation. It is the Senate the makes treaties.

The signing is part of the process of these treaties going into effect.

Democrat Example of a treaty not going a POTUS' way: Wodrow Wilson supported the League of Nations and Congress shot him down. Signing a treaty is only a step in the process off establishing a valid treaty between us and another nation.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-03   14:02:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#681. To: A K A Stone (#677)

What is Obama doing signing a document with them for. It isn't legitimate. What is the legal affect of the President signing a document with a foreign nation. It is the Senate the makes treaties.

BS. It's almost always up to the administration in power to negotiate treaties. The Senate then ratifies it.

The GHW Bush administration negotiated most of the terms of NAFTA.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-03   14:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#682. To: A K A Stone (#0)

This is no joke. It will be enforced for May 19 to May 21.

The flight advisory was issued by the Federal Aviation Administration. The advisory bans non-commercial aircraft from flying within 10 nautical miles of downtown Chicago at altitudes below 18,000 feet.

A nautical mile is about one minute of arc of latitude along any meridian. It amounts to 1,852 meters, or about 1.15078 standard miles.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#683. To: mininggold (#681)

What is Obama doing signing a document with them for. It isn't legitimate. What is the legal affect of the President signing a document with a foreign nation. It is the Senate the makes treaties.

BS. It's almost always up to the administration in power to negotiate treaties. The Senate then ratifies it.

The GHW Bush administration negotiated most of the terms of NAFTA.

It's the signing of it in the wee hours of the morning and the Taliban's immediate response which is the tell.

When the attack started, I don't think Obama's plane had left the tarmac...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#684. To: All (#683)

In addition, the restrictions include an outer ring from 10 to 30 miles around downtown Chicago. Only planes arriving or departing at local airports will be allowed within that outer ring. Flight training, seaplanes, and other types of flights will be banned from the outer ring.

Any plane violating the flight restrictions will be intercepted.

"The United States Government may use deadly force against the airborne aircraft, if it is determined that the aircraft poses an imminent security threat," the advisory says.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#685. To: All (#684) (Edited)

He said the restrictions will essentially shut down general aviation – which refers to all flights that are not military, scheduled airline, or scheduled cargo flights.

"There will be no (general aviation) activity within those three days," Fair said.

The only aircraft allowed to fly within the restricted area include regularly-scheduled commercial passenger and cargo carriers, police, and military planes supporting the Secret Service.

The SS over rides all other.

Including NORAD.

Just like on 9/11.

Where's the SS Chicago Air Defense Office.

Look for it to be burning, if the '9/11' plan goes awry....;}

Be on the lookout for a Bush.....;} OR Israeli holidays....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#686. To: All (#685)

Meantime, when President Barack Obama comes to Chicago for the summit, he’ll stay at the Sheraton Chicago Hotel & Towers along the Chicago River.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#687. To: All (#686)

#

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Just sayin'....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#688. To: All (#687)

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Where are the perps today.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#689. To: All (#688)

the summit at McCormick Place.

McCormick qualifies as White Elephant.

Two weeks ago some one bought the lease and doubled their Terror insurance.....8D

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#690. To: All (#689)

"I believe that Chicago has shown a reputation of handling things correctly, and I don’t think that’s going to be any different in this particular case either," Jackson said, adding that he was "absolutely" confident in leaders and officials in keeping everyone safe.

Rahm IDF Immanuel the Mayor?

LMFAO Evac now.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#691. To: mcgowanjm (#690)

The last time we took exhibit space at McCormick Place was about 2003 and in spite of some imprrovement in the union rules it still cost $300 bucks to have a union electrician plug in our lights which was twice what it cost in 1989.

Money well spent though. Not a single one of our kiosks was later found in the Lake.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-04   7:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#692. To: All (#690)

Rahm IDF Immanuel the Mayor?

LMFAO Evac now.....;}

Almost forgot MI6 Peter Powers, Giuliani, and Netanyahu...

9/11 was good. Very Good for Israel...;}

Rahm is made a hero on 5.12.12. the fix is in.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#693. To: harrowup (#691)

Money well spent though. Not a single one of our kiosks was later found in the Lake.

Thanx for the confirmation...;}

Chicago..the city that works....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#694. To: All (#693) (Edited)

To solve the EU that does not:

"The real Greek tax bill is lost in the post

On April 18th last, The Slog led with an IMF report inadvertantly showing the draconian new tax measures being set up for after the Greek elections this coming Sunday.

Nobody in the Western MSM went near the story, but the better-informed Greeks have since been voting with their feet by leaving the Pasok and New Democracy Parties in their droves.

Yesterday leading Greek newspaper Ekathimerini healdined with a piece entitled ‘Tax avalanche to follow elections’. This is further bad news for the pro-Troika Parties, who have been trying to rubbish such reports (ever since the first revelations nearly three weeks ago) with risible talk about ‘unfortunate delays’ and ‘forgetfulness’."

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

What elections? We just lost our NATO 'leaders'! Now is not the time for democracy.

Now is the time for resolute Actions.

Our Militarys were right to bankrupt their respective taxpayers.

We need them now more than ever.

And your Rights/Liberties will be returned shortly.

Now bring up the first child and elderly lady for their prescribed 'Pat down'....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:15:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#695. To: All (#694)

Probably the first tax clearance slips will be sent for income tax payment at the end of July. Those slips will also include the solidarity tax and the profession fee, which this year will soar by a massive 66% to 500 euros from 300 euros last year.

By then, of course, the eurozone might be in such deep doo-doo, those tax bills will be irrelevant – but don’t hold your breath. Just as pro-EU politicians ban elections, ignore elections, postpone elections, redo elections, and put off tax bills until after elections, they can do precisely the same via Mario Draghi’s increasingly junk-strewn ECB with budgets and bailouts. The problem becomes real only when an election fails to vote in a coalition prepared to go along with this sadistic madness….and this now looks increasingly likely in Greece.

I still can’t grasp what bit of this potential disaster for the eurocrats the MSM doesn’t get.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#696. To: All (#695) (Edited)

"05/04/2012 - 07:42 Zerohedge

With everyone and their mother scrambling to come up with some utterly meaningless number (why is it meaningless? Because From January to March seasonal adjustments have "added" 4,477,000 jobs, and the monthly error interval is 100,000..."

A 'truthful number like jobs actually lost could be a tell....just sayin'... a 'limited hangout', '$2.3 Trillion missing' kind of thing.....;}

"Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:11 | 2396168 tim73 tim73's picture

At least in tj(h)e USSR the tractor and tank production figures might have been true in some rare cases...

OK. Never mind the above.

115 k while the Unemployment % number drops....Lulz.

The PTB are still blowing smoke....carry on....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#697. To: All (#696)

Jihadist website: 'Bin laden dead'

This is a curious story. Why would they announce his death if he is not dead? If he died, and the death were verified, there would certainly be displays of mourning from the tiny minority of extremists worldwide -- and if the media cared or dared to notice these displays, we would get some idea of how tiny that minority really is. 'Bin laden dead,' from Ynet News, with thanks to Gabrielle Goldwater:

‘Bin laden dead’

Radical internet site says al-Qaeda leader dead; experts believe report a fabrication

By Roee Nahmias Published: 04.29.05, 10:54 / Israel News

An internet news site close to al-Qaeda reported the death of Osama Bin Laden, creating a firestorm in radical Islamic circles.

The report was followed by denials and accusations of a fabrication fostered on the site by foreign agents.

The London-based newspaper Asharq al-Awsat reported on Friday that the site Minbar Ahl al-Sunnah wa-al-Jama'ah declared, “We now report that the al-Qaeda organization has announced the death of Osama Bin Laden.”

One of the writers on the site, working under the pseudonym “The Mujahiddin’s Pen,” added: “Osama Bin Laden is dead... Where are the mourners? Where those who sent themselves into the towers and tall buildings?”

www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3078937,00.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#698. To: All (#697)

Osama Bin Laden is dead – prove it By Russell Boyce May 2, 2011 Abottabad | Al Qaeda | Bin Laden | fake | Pakistan | Photoshop

When the news broke that Osama Bin Laden was dead, at the Reuters Global Pictures Desk in Singapore all we could think was one thing: We have to see the picture of the dead body. The world needed the tangible proof of a genuine photo before we could really absorb the idea that the world’s most sought and also most elusive Islamic extremist was dead. We also knew that the news agency that was first in sending a picture of his dead body to the world would go a long way to winning this historic story. Sending out a fake picture could be very embarrassing to say the least – a tough balancing act when under such pressure.

A few hours later there it was circulating on the internet: Osama Bin Laden’s bloodied face in a video transmitted by a TV station in Pakistan. Under tremendous pressure we could get the picture and fed it into our picture editing system in preparation for transmission around the globe.

But was it really Osama? It was rumoured that the source was US military but the editors on the Global Picture Desk found inconsistencies that immediately made us suspicious. There was odd pixilation and blurring and his face was darker in some areas than others. The biggest problem was that the picture looked familiar somehow. Quickly looking through dozens of our archive pictures we found that the bottom half of Osama Bin Laden’s face was identical to a picture of him speaking at a news conference in 1998. After flipping the picture 180 degrees and overlaying it with the picture of the dead Osama Bin Laden we had a perfect match. It was a fake.

The fake picture was locked in our system so that it couldn’t be sent out but would be saved for future training exercises. Meanwhile, the fake picture quickly gained momentum in cyber space.

blogs.reuters.com/russell...n-laden-is-dead-prove-it/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#699. To: All (#698) (Edited)

One. Year. Later.....;}

"We’re still waiting for that genuine picture of the body of Osama Bin Laden."

And this guy, The Slog, has it right:

"There is a global misapprehension at large in 2012, and it is this: that knowing the latest news in a 24/7 world means you’re well informed. It does not. A flood of hits comes to The Slog when something sensationally unreported elsewhere comes to light. But the best revelations (yesterday’s post on Jeremy Hunt, for example) get lower hits and attract new readers – who stay long after the news-junkies have left."

The first clue to AgitProp is complete lack of context.

Second clue is anonymous on condition of nat'l security.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#700. To: All (#699)

Eight months later, in March 2012, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius CIA/MI6/Mossad), whose writing invariably reflects what top national security officials want to see in the news media, was given a "small sample" of the documents by a "senior administration official." The two documents he chose to highlight - bin Laden's musings on shooting down aircraft with Obama or Petraeus on board and attacks on the tenth anniversary of 9/11 - had already been reported by CNN in July 2011. Acknowledging that al-Qaeda did not even have the military technology to shoot down a US plane, Ignatius observed that bin Laden, "still dreamed of pulling off another spectacular terror attack against the United States."

So, several months after the Abbottabad documents had been thoroughly analyzed and the results digested by senior administration officials, the administration was unable to cite a single piece of evidence that bin Laden had given orders for - or was even involved in discussing - a real, concrete plan for an al-Qaeda action, much less one that had actually been carried out. "

http://truth-out.org/news/item/8...behind-the-official-story

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#701. To: All (#700) (Edited)

Far from depicting bin Laden as the day-to-day decisionmaker or even "master strategist" of al-Qaeda, the documents showed a man dreaming of glorious exploits that were unconnected with reality.

"Nobody Listened to His Rantings Anymore"

The reality reflected in the documents from the Abbottabad compound is that bin Laden had been exiled by the leadership of al-Qaeda because he had come to be seen as a loose cannon who was a danger to the organization. The train of events that led to bin Laden's holing up in the compound in Abbottabad began in August 2003, in a small village in Afghanistan's Nangarhar province, near the fabled caves of Tora Bora where he led a battle against US Special Forces in December 2001. It was there that the leadership of al-Qaeda conducted a series of extraordinary meetings on its most pressing problem: how to ease bin Laden out of his leadership role in the organization.

LMFAO...This 'meeting' was held in Langley....;}

See 'We let Bin Laden get away' for details on how that 'meeting' went....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#702. To: A K A Stone (#0)

" BBC News - Pakistan Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud 'still alive' news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8651023.stmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 29, 2010 – Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud survived an American drone attack in January, intelligence sources say.

Is Hakimullah Mehsud Alive? New Video Evidence - The Daily Beast www.thedailybeast.com/......ive-new-video-ev...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo May 3, 2010 – When Pakistani officials reportedly began saying last week that Mehsud was still alive, U.S. officials said they had always expressed some ...

Hakimullah Mehsud is still alive! | The News Tribe www.thenewstribe.com/2012...sud-is-still-alive/Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jan 20, 2012 – Islamabad: Military sources have denied reports that Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud was killed in a US drone attack in North ...

Hakimullah mehsud still alive. www.defence.pk/.../154259-hakimullah-mehsud-still-alive.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo 1 post - 1 author - Jan 21 Whats with the media now adays,1 day they say he's dead the next day they report he's alive somewhere in north waziristan.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#703. To: All (#702)

After the bin Laden raid, Qadir went back to his former comrades, and they introduced him to three of their relatives who had been couriers for Mehsud tribal militant leader Baitullah Mehsud in his contacts with al-Qaeda's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, during the 2003 meetings.

Mehsud would become the head of the al-Qaeda affiliate organization Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) in 2007. But in 2009, Mehsud was killed in a drone strike and the organization was splintering over various issues. All three former couriers broke their ties with Hakimullah Mehsud, Baitullah Mehsud's successor as head of TTP. The political split in the Mehsud tribal community, followed by the killing of bin Laden, released the former couriers from their oaths of secrecy.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#704. To: All (#703)

After bin Laden moved from the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan to South Waziristan in northwest Pakistan, his health continued to decline, according to the three former Mehsud couriers. Just what ailments were causing the deterioration was not clear, but he was no longer able to walk, and had to be moved by horseback from one house in South Waziristan to another for security reasons.

Renal Kidney failure....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#705. To: All (#704) (Edited)

What this means, in essence, is this: In a country that is home to the harshest variants of Muslim fundamentalism, and to the headquarters of the organizations that espouse these extremist ideologies, including al-Qaeda, the Haqqani network, and Lashkar-e-Taiba (which conducted the devastating terror attacks on Mumbai three years ago that killed nearly 200 civilians), nuclear bombs capable of destroying entire cities are transported in delivery vans on congested and dangerous roads. And Pakistani and American sources say that since the raid on Abbottabad, the Pakistanis have provoked anxiety inside the Pentagon by increasing the pace of these movements.

Jan 2011...the AtlanticWire, latest hang out for pseudo Intel in the USSA.

The USSA just can't find 'em....;}

"But an even greater concern of the al-Qaeda shura (or council), according to the former couriers, was what appeared to bin Laden's colleagues to be his obsession with the idea that al-Qaeda should attack and capture Pakistan's nuclear reactor at Kahuta. Zawahiri, the second-ranking al-Qaeda leader, who had the task of meeting personally with bin Laden, along with the rest of the shura tried to tell bin Laden that Kahuta was impenetrable. They pointed to the presence of a regular infantry battalion, air defense, guard dogs, mines and a laser security system guarding the facility. And anyway, as they pointed out to bin Laden, there were no nuclear weapons stored there."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#706. To: A K A Stone (#0)

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Post Fri May 04, 2012 9:15 am by mcgowanjm So much for the HyperInflationistas...much to the Bernank's dismay.... :twisted: :? 8-)

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Post Fri May 04, 2012 9:15 am by mcgowanjm So much for the HyperInflationistas...much to the Bernank's dismay.... :twisted: :? 8-)

finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CL&p=m5

Demand Resistance has been hammered and held.

The fall back of the 'HI's will not be pretty.

Starting Point was Obama's 4:12 AM Speech in Kabul.

Demand Resistance has been hammered and held.

The fall back of the 'HI's will not be pretty.

Starting Point was Obama's 4:12 AM Speech in Kabul.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#707. To: All (#705)

But none of that seemed to matter to bin Laden, who seemed delusional on the issue. "Nobody listened to his rantings anymore," said one of the couriers in a conversation with Qadir. "He had become a physical liability and was going mad," another told Qadir a couple of days earlier. "He had become an object of ridicule," said the second courier, recalling that some of the militants in South Waziristan had become aware of his harangues on the subject and were starting to make jokes at bin Laden's expense. "You can't have a leader whose people ridicule him," he said.

The CIA Man said....LMFAO

And the Arab Uprising was the last straw.

AQ was no where to be found. So the decision was made to get rid of OBL, once and for all.

A new MEME was needed. AQ franchises....Lulz

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#708. To: All (#707)

Abu Ayoub al-Iraqi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ayoub_al-IraqiCached - Similar

Abu Ayoub al-Iraqi has been credited with being one of the original founders of al-Qaeda ... however, that he was #3, since he was replaced by Mohammed Atef.

CIA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#709. To: All (#708)

CIA

# US Names Abu al-Masri Newest Iraq Al-Qaeda Boogieman www.rense.com/general72/boof.htmCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo In short, the covert op pseudo-gang "al-Qaeda in Iraq" needs a new face, ... "We think that Abu Ayyub al-Masri is in fact, probably, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir ... as both operations were run by the CIA and a smattering of other intelligence services.

Abu Ayyub al Masri | The Weekly Standard www.weeklystandard.com/ke.../Abu-Ayyub-al-MasriCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 28, 2010 – When al Qaeda in Iraq's military chief Abu Ayyub al Masri was killed earlier this month, I noted that the CIA had tracked him to Baghdad in May ...

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Al Qaeda/CIA operative Abu Ayyub al-Masri dies for the 4th or 5th ... forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=167313.0;wap2 You +1'd this publicly. Undo Al Qaeda/CIA operative Abu Ayyub al-Masri dies for the 4th or 5th time again. (1/4) > > ... Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki announced the killings of Abu Omar ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#710. To: All (#709)

The question however that Washington needs to address is a more complex one and needs more subtle geopolitical analysis than Washington has been indulging in lately. Can the world in general and India, Israel and the US in particular afford to make a nuclear armed nation feel confused and insecure about its relations with them? Pakistan's defense strategy is based on a "first strike policy". Very simple this means that when in danger the Pakistanis will trigger the nukes. Keep in mind that this is the policy of secular, rational generals and not some crazy Mullahs.

We do not have to wait for Pakistani nukes to fall in to the hands of Taliban types before we see them lighting the sky. All we need to do is scare the present administration sufficiently. Nothing can be scarier for the present military establishment in Pakistan than the threat to their nuclear weapons. Is Washington scaring the Pakistanis? Yes it is. But things have not reached dangerous levels, but who knows what the threshold level of Pakistan is? How much pressure can it handle?

Washington continues to insinuate that Pakistan has been sharing its nuclear secrets with Iran and North Korea. Washington also continues to express its fears about the stability of Pakistan's command and control structure and the possibility of their nukes falling in the hands of militant Muslims. Despite Pakistan's repeated reassurances on both counts, Washington continues to maintain its doubts.

Every time Indians meet with Israelis, the conversation is the same. Israelis ask, "What can you do for us?" And Indians ask "What are you going to do about Pakistan?"

www.glocaleye.org/pakpressure.htm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#711. To: All (#710) (Edited)

http://truth-out.org/news/item/8...behind-the-official-story

According to one version, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, also known as "KSM," the mastermind of the 9/11 attack, had identified bin Laden's trusted courier in 2007; in another version, unidentified detainees had given interrogators the courier's real name.

The story of bin Laden's courier was an open invitation for past and present CIA officials who had gone along with the use of torture in interrogating suspects to justify their position. CIA Director Panetta channeled their viewpoint in an interview with NBC, suggesting that, for some of the information that led the agency to bin Laden, interrogators, "used their enhanced interrogation techniques against some of the detainees."

He added, "Whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always going to be an open question." Reuters reported that the story of how the administration learned about the identity of bin Laden's courier was, "certain to reopen the debate over practices that many have equated with torture."

Rodriguez gets back handed signal to destroy the torture tapes....Lulz.

Notify CBS for 60 Minutes Story.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#712. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The US Highway Trust Fund.

Look for this to go belly up way before Social Security/Medicare....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-05   8:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#713. To: All (#711)

There has been no deal with Iran.

The USSA/Israel just cannot get everyone on board for an attack.

If oil was scarce it would seem prices would go up so Have fun picking it apart!

As I repeatedly state here, Return on Consumption is non existent.

A loan made to acquire oil is impossible to get recourse on when the collateral has been burned into the atmosphere.

When oil is scarce, the EROEI is in low single digits, like now.....

then add the FedRes' financialization to keep prices up...

Demand will be crushed...which is a lot easier to do than increase supply.

When the price falls, like Friday, the market then moves to not enough incentive to drill. As the $25 to $75 per BBL infrastructure has been destroyed.

See Chesapeake and Aubry McClendon for details on All of the above.... :twisted: :? 8-)

www.energybulletin.net/stories/2 ... -gas-may-4

McClendon, 52, helped cause Chesapeake shares to plummet amid the financial crisis when he sold hundreds of millions of dollars in stock to raise cash for himself. Later, to settle a lawsuit by shareholders, he agreed to buy back a $12 million map collection that he'd sold to Chesapeake.

His approach to running his company also is renowned: Among other employee perks, on-site Botox treatments are available at its headquarters in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

Now, a series of previously undisclosed loans to McClendon could once again put Chesapeake's CEO and shareholders at odds.

McClendon has borrowed as much as $1.1 billion in the last three years by pledging his stake in the company's oil and natural gas wells as collateral, documents reviewed by Reuters show... (18 Apr 2012)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-05   9:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#714. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Doing the right thing is easy. Major media journalists trying seldom get second chances. Repeated offenses end academic careers. Target Israel enough times and it's practically certain.

Sensitive truths in America aren't tolerated. Only wealth, power, and Israeli support are welcome. Some learn the hard way. Their honor and integrity remain intact. What's more important than that.

Stephen Lendman

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-06   9:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#715. To: A K A Stone (#0)

because Saudi Arabia is very actively working in countries such as Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, and Lebanon to reduce Iran's influence in those countries.

And, boy, don't those people know it.

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Post Sun May 06, 2012 8:56 am by mcgowanjm Re: Iran to build a nuclear bomb in 60 days?

Post Sun May 06, 2012 8:56 am by mcgowanjm All of the problems of the USSA start at 9/11....;}

And I'm watching Chicago/NATO like a hawk.... :twisted:

And where Rahm Emmanuel and Netanyahu are.

911 was the Mossad. But that is not an Israeli intelligence agency per say it is a terrorist agency for the military industrial complex which feeds off of the hatred of the bigots and useful idiots concentrated in Israel. The US and Israel are not really different countries in a way. The US and Israeli agencies and their Neocon governments work for their own interests and those interests are guided by a racist, political ideology mixed up with a fascist version of a religion and Straussian philosophy. There is a total disconnect between the people of America (the sane ones) and the government. US foreign policy works for Likud Israeli interests first second and third. This is because the Zionists and MIC have overlapping financial interests. But most of all the press is Zionist. There is no war greater right now than the information war. Nothing would fix things faster than taking back the media or totally discrediting the corrupt lying fear mongering war cheerleaders we have now.

A lot of people have written about and shown the problems with official 911 story. There is the demolition of building number 7, there are the firemen's reports that the fires were almost out, there are numerous reports of secondary explosions etc. Because it has been said on radio and more so because people have made films about it, many people can recite the arguments for the inside job in their sleep. Fire burns buildings; it does not burn on the top of one for an hour or so and then blow it up in a matter of ten seconds, completely destroying everything including the foundations and leaving molten steal in the basements weeks after the event. It is physically impossible.

www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/v ... php?t=1388

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-06   9:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#716. To: Fred Mertz, All (#711)

It was only the third race ever for I'll Have Another since September and the jockey, Mario Gutierrez, had never raced at Churchill Downs or in the Kentucky Derby before, which placed them at a significant disadvantage coming in, according to bettors. However, those who believed are smiling now.

I'll Have Another paid $32.60 for the win. If you bet the $2 Exacta, Trifecta or Superfecta and won, your payout would've been handsome. Here is what the winning numbers paid:

Exacta: 19-6 - $306

Trifecta: 19-6-5 - $1,532

Superfecta: 19-6-5-13 - $48,000

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-06   9:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#717. To: All (#716)

911 was an inside job which was part of a larger plan for perpetual war hatched in Israel. Understand that Israel is not Jewish people OK please get that through your warped heads. Israel is a violent nation that engages in false flag operations routinely and serves the interests of the MIC not any particular ethnicity. For a long time during the Cold War, Israel was the medium the MIC used to bully the Middle East indirectly and increase arms sales across the board. 911 and the recent wars in the Middle East were carefully planned attacks carried out by a faction of Zionist Neocons and the Israeli Mossad. The policy papers that acted as propaganda for the war were written by Dual Citizens with Israel. The equity firms profiting from the Iraq War like Carlyle and Trireme and the law firms processing contracts like Feith and Zell, the Anthrax attack, and the anthrax attack speech, the PNAC documents, the DPG the lies from journalists about Iraq's WMD are all connected back to the same Zionist cabal in the DOD and office of the vice president. Just think back to the propaganda about Iraq before the war and then go read what PNAC was writing in the 90s.

On top of that the Niger forgeries, which are Clear concrete proof to show that these men were consciously lying, have still not been reported in the Main Stream media. There is no surprise there, they can't even admit that Israel has Nukes, or any information about multiple spy-rings Spies (Pollard, Art Students, AIPAC, ADL, too many to even name. )

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-06   10:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#718. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Reasonn Paul going with his Israel Capitol is Jerusalem stance....

it's still possible for him to win.

Paul's the VP. Or US Sec Treas at the veery least.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-06   10:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#719. To: A K A Stone (#0)

9 puppets killed, 11 wounded in martyr attack amid "Operation Al-Farooq" Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Monday, 15 Jamadil Akhir 1433 Monday, 07 May 2012 08:23 PAKTIKA, May 07 – Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate, armed with explosive vests, hand grenades and heavy and small arms later on Sunday evening stormed the governor house, the department of National directorate of security (NDS), a local spy agency and other government and military places triggering an overnight fighting in which as many as 9 puppets were killed and 11 more got wounded whose bodies were used by martyrdom-seeking Mujahideen as cover during fighting, whereas the 11 puppets who were taken to the hospital are said to be in a very critical condition.

Besides the fatalities, a number of the government buildings were badly damages. One of the martyrdom-seeking Mujahids after hours of fighting the enemy became martyred, while the rest are reported to be engaged in putting up firm resistance and fighting back the enemies and fighting is ongoing in a rigorous way.

The martyrdom operation came on the fourth day and extended into the fifth day of the “Operation Al-Farooq” as part of the countrywide spring offensives. More updates will be available when more is known.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-07   9:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#720. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Occupation is missing from the news and they purposely paint the distorted picture that Israel just defends itself from crazy suicide bombers. This is not something they can hide, or even debate about, the occupation is visible, you can go visit it, and it is widely covered in media outside the US, but you will never ever hear Israel's crimes even mentioned. There is no news of the Jewish-Only racial colonies that the US calls "Settlements" and "Neighborhoods" reported on Fox, ABCNNBCBS which is really one net work that tells the same stories often in the same order.

Can you believe that only 99 000 watch CNBC?

That's basically Zero on the Neilson Scale and yet the channel just keeps rolling along.

It costs Neilson extra just to track that low a number....;}

The illusion of remaining airborne may dissolve now with the Hollandaise denunciation of Franco-German team spirit while a centripetal vortex of unpaid obligations sucks notional wealth through the event horizon of massive deflation. Things are heating up, in other words. Wake up, sleepyheads! Welcome to the rest of the year 2012.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-07   9:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#721. To: All (#720)

There can be no doubt that the press consciously distorted information leading up to the wars, and that they never made any clear pronouncements about how they had been wrong about their lies, with the Weapons of Mass Destruction myth being a clear stinging example. There are people in the US who still believe that Iraq had WMDs or that they moved them to Syria lol.

If you want to know who planned 911 then a good place to look would be who do we know planned and then lied about Iraq? (also who has been lying the most about Iran) Who championed the disinformation? Where were the lies coming from? And when was this war really planned and where? The answered to all of those questions are sadly the same. Israel and American Zionists. And that is a fact we can prove.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-07   10:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#722. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

I thought about these things this past week, as the Eurozone continued its downward slide, our own economy showed signs of faltering again and – in a hundred small ways – the Empire continued its slow decay. Yesterday, I read a couple of articles about the state of the Empire as it faces financial and economic failure, environmental degradation, climate change and diminishing energy supplies.

The first article recapped a speech given by Leon Panetta to the Environmental Defense Fund this week. “Climate and environmental change are emerging as national security threats that “weigh heavily” on the Pentagon’s strategies …” the article stated. “… The quest for energy is another area, he said, that continues to shape and reshape the strategic environment …” www.upi.com/Business_News...cerns/UPI-19981336156813/

-conflicteddoomer.com

And what do we get from USSAtv this AM?

USSA intel, pick your agency, entraps another 5th grade level Sunni, and gins up a scaare.....BOO....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   7:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#723. To: All (#722)

A case can certainly be made that, with the exception of a tiny privileged elite, the hallmark of "progress" has been enslavement of the majority of humanity, forced into bondage whether it's hauling stones to build pyramids or Aztec temples, fighting off lions in the Coliseum, being sold for sex, chained in the hull of a ship, or sitting for years in a windowless office cubicle all the better to buy more gadgets in the glorious name of endless growth.

witsendnj.blogspot.com/20...connect-dots-day-and.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   7:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#724. To: All (#723)

"A surprising fact about the Neolithic revolution is that, according to most evidence, agriculture brought about a steep decline in the standard of living. Studies of Kalahari Bushmen and other nomadic groups show that hunter-gatherers, even in the most inhospitable landscapes, typically spend less than twenty hours a week obtaining food. By contrast, farmers toil from sunup to sundown. Because agriculture relies on the mass cultivation of a handful of starchy crops, a community’s whole livelihood can be wiped out overnight by bad weather or pests. Paleontological evidence shows that, compared with hunter-gatherers, early farmers had more anemia and vitamin deficiencies, died younger, had worse teeth, were more prone to spinal deformity, and caught more infectious diseases, as a result of living close to other humans and to livestock."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   7:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#725. To: mcgowanjm (#721)

And that is a fact we can prove.

No you can't. But I won't argue with you about it. Ain't worth the time. Just thought I'd let you know you shouldn't make such claims.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   7:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#726. To: All (#724)

Very simple:

" Google Translation says the page is already in English. However, I cut some of the comments and translated them. Here are the results.

* Not one euro for banks, prosecute the perpetrators of the crisis and a constitution written by the citizens!

* Education + health budget in 2012: 5,397 million euros. Rescue Bankia: 7,000 million euros

* Greece, under the control of the Troika, in bankruptcy. Iceland, after a revolution, Out of Crisis.

* 7,000 million euros for Bankia? To begin, No. # # HagamosComoIslandia RescatemosPersonas

* Trial of bankers and politicians, reappropriation of wealth plundered, new constitution and social justice

-mish

Same the world over.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   7:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#727. To: harrowup (#725)

And that is a fact we can prove.

No you can't. But I won't argue with you about it. Ain't worth the time. Just thought I'd let you know you shouldn't make such claims.

Hellooooo Wisconsin!!!!! ;}

Where's Colin Powell's 'white paper'?

LMFAO

And then tell me why we invaded Iraq......

I'm expecting nothing but silence....

Bibi: '9/11 is good, very good for Israel.'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:01:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#728. To: A K A Stone (#0)

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=CL&cot=067651&p=w1

"A surprising fact about the Neolithic revolution is that, according to most evidence, agriculture brought about a steep decline in the standard of living.

Studies of Kalahari Bushmen and other nomadic groups show that hunter-gatherers, even in the most inhospitable landscapes, typically spend less than twenty hours a week obtaining food. By contrast, farmers toil from sunup to sundown. Because agriculture relies on the mass cultivation of a handful of starchy crops, a community’s whole livelihood can be wiped out overnight by bad weather or pests.

Paleontological evidence shows that, compared with hunter-gatherers, early farmers had more anemia and vitamin deficiencies, died younger, had worse teeth, were more prone to spinal deformity, and caught more infectious diseases, as a result of living close to other humans and to livestock."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#729. To: All (#728)

" Debt implosions and currency devaluation NEVER simply “fade away”; they are always followed by extreme social and political strife that tends to sully the doorsteps of almost every individual and family. The notion that we can coast through such a tempest unscathed is an insane idea, filled with a dangerous potential for sour regrets.

There are some people who also believe that the private Federal Reserve with the Treasury in tow has the ability to prolong the worst symptoms of the collapse indefinitely, or at least, until they have long since kicked the bucket and don’t have to worry about it anymore (the ‘pay-it forward to our grandkids’ crowd) . I can say with 100% certainty that most of us will live to see the climax of the breakdown, and that this breakdown is about to enter a more precarious state before the end of this year. You can only stretch a sun-boiled rubber band so far before it snaps completely, and America’s financial elasticity has long been melted away. "

www.alt-market.com/articl...-worried-yetyou-should-be

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#730. To: mcgowanjm (#727)

Some very stupid people decided to believe an obvious feint from a very self- aggrandizing lunatic.

Powell is an ass.

Bibi never said that.

In spite of saying it isn't worth discussing I thought you deserve an answer in spite of your assertion that I would not.

It still isn't worth talking about. For pete's sake people are still arguing about Caligula but it won't rebuild Rome.

Personally, the WTC were the most ugly buildings in NYC (well, the Guggenheim looks like a toilet) and were badly designed and built by corrupt unions with inferior materials. So, good to go.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   8:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#731. To: All (#729)

CNBC pulls 99 000 viewers....and yet is still on the air.

Monday hour by hour:

8 p.m.

ABC: "Dancing With the Stars" (15 million viewers, 9.8/15 households)

NBC: "The Voice" (9.2 million, 5.5/9)

CBS: "How I Met Your Mother" (7.9 million, 4.9/8)/"2 Broke Girls" (9.1 million, 5.5/8)

FOX: "Bones" (7 million, 4.4/7)

The CW: "Gossip Girl" (1.05 million, 0.8/1)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#732. To: harrowup, All (#730)

Bibi never said that.

I've been quoting Bibi since the Day after 9/11....;}

Netanyahu Zionism

[In New York on day of 911 and London on day of 7/7. Beat that for a 'coincidence'.]

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#733. To: mcgowanjm (#728)

Paleontological evidence shows that, compared with hunter-gatherers, early farmers had more anemia and vitamin deficiencies, died younger, had worse teeth, were more prone to spinal deformity, and caught more infectious diseases, as a result of living close to other humans and to livestock."

Very interesting. Goes to show us that urban ghettos are just as bad today as they were in the beginning. I guess this study suggests that Green Acres is [NOT] the place to be even so.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   8:46:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#734. To: harrowup (#730)

It still isn't worth talking about. For pete's sake people are still arguing about Caligula but it won't rebuild Rome.

Personally, the WTC were the most ugly buildings in NYC (well, the Guggenheim looks like a toilet) and were badly designed and built by corrupt unions with inferior materials. So, good to go.

There's a reason that there's no staute of limitations on murder and treason...;}

The effects remain until both are solved.

As you have Yet to tell me why we invaded Iraq.....;}

Still waiting.....expecting crickets.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#735. To: mcgowanjm (#732)

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

You have the audio/video link of course.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   8:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#736. To: harrowup (#733)

Very interesting. Goes to show us that urban ghettos are just as bad today as they were in the beginning. I guess this study suggests that Green Acres is [NOT] the place to be even so.

Exactly not. Only the Elite have balanced diets in Empire/Civilizations.

Every one.

And Green acres Is the place to be IF you own Green Acres....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#737. To: harrowup (#735)

You have the audio/video link of course.

Jesus fucking Christ.

I'd have to give you the Fox link endorsed by bush43 for you to be convinced.

But it would make zero difference even if I did.

You'd walk off unaffected, like you'd run into a stranger.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#738. To: All (#732)

Debt implosions and currency devaluation NEVER simply “fade away”; they are always followed by extreme social and political strife that tends to sully the doorsteps of almost every individual and family. The notion that we can coast through such a tempest unscathed is an insane idea, filled with a dangerous potential for sour regrets.

There are some people who also believe that the private Federal Reserve with the Treasury in tow has the ability to prolong the worst symptoms of the collapse indefinitely, or at least, until they have long since kicked the bucket and don’t have to worry about it anymore (the ‘pay-it forward to our grandkids’ crowd) . I can say with 100% certainty that most of us will live to see the climax of the breakdown, and that this breakdown is about to enter a more precarious state before the end of this year. You can only stretch a sun-boiled rubber band so far before it snaps completely, and America’s financial elasticity has long been melted away.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#739. To: mcgowanjm (#737)

But it would make zero difference even if I did.

On the contrary. A valid audio/video link would be a credible source.

Without it, I just conclude you made it up.

Happens a lot on the internet.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   8:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#740. To: harrowup (#739)

Without it, I just conclude you made it up.

Happens a lot on the internet.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Kinda like the reasons for why we invaded iraq.

Tell you what, Hup.

You give me the reason we invaded. And 9/11 the Muslims did it, I'll need your source for that as well.

THEN, I'll give you the video of Bibi telling why Mossad did 9/11.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   9:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#741. To: All (#740)

If you're not talking about Israel, then you're really not talking about 9/11.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   9:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#742. To: All (#741)

Basement explosions from planted explosions. WTC.

'A bomb planted in the building.'

'If there was a third explosion the building might collapse.'

'We had that big explosion from much lower...at the base of the towers.'

Chopper 2: 'We just witnessed some secondary explosion.'

'One of the explosions at the WTC may have been caused by a van'

'We just heard another explosion.'

'There was a bomb in the lobby.'

'I literally thought that the subway had exploded.'

'The subway cars filled with smoke.'

'He went back in the revolving doors, when a fireball threw him back into the street.'

The explosions went 'boom. boom boom boom all the way down'.

An explosion. The third explosion. The whole lobby collapsed on us.'

'The third one...waiting to go upstairs....everything just went up... staging area on fire....waiting to go upstairs....in the building trying to help people and explosions going off....couldn't get worse than that.'

'Two planes and explosions that were ion the building...what the FBI is going with at this point.'

'They arrested the truck full of explosives'.

'Two men in FBI custody...van ful of explosives ...Geo Washington bridge.... arrrested and questioning....'

'another terrorist attack stopped an attack on the Geo Washington Bridge'.

'Urban Moving Sytems Van...APB '

'Liberty State Park...filming celebrating 9/11 attack...each had tickets to immediately leave the US.'

'You could only see one side of one tower from Urban Moving Systems so they moved to film the enitre event.....already on the roof....looking.

'Dancing Israelis.'

Took 76 photos....visibly seen smiling.'

Silven Kirschberg....lied to two men...said he was construction worker in WTC.'

'Silven admitted...WTC highlighted.

'Silven also babble on about Palestinians....lied... claiming they were onm the West Side.'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   9:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#743. To: All (#742)

MAtching license plates.

All Israelis.

Taken pics of selves flicking lighters.

Many thought that first plane was an accident.

But not these Israelis.

Sudden disappearance of the story.

Then Palestinians are shown dancing. But not these Dancing Israelis.

Filming the 9/11 attacks...before they happened.

After the police pulled them over...Silvan K-berg...guns drawn police physically removed from the van.

'We are Israeli...we are not your problem....the Palestinians are your problem.'

'Why did they assume that they were pulled over because of 9/11.'

'They were deported back to Israel'.

'The higher ups always swoop in...the police are furious....nothing they can do about it.'

All MEdia: Urban Moving Systems had access to the towers.

Van: Mural depicted of painting of planes slamming into WTC's.

Two men ran away from truck'.

'We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Palestinians are your problem.'

'They were released by Chertoff.'

'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   9:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#744. To: mcgowanjm (#743)

I remember all those items. Here we are 10 plus years later...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-08   9:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#745. To: All (#743)

That fanatical Jews can live in protected colonies as the'others'

are pushed into ghettoes....why they hate us.

Comverse works closely with the Israel Government.

The FBI to pursue that Israeli spying thru Comverse is career suicide.

flt 93 10:03. Recorder stopped.

10:45 4th explosion at the World Trade Center.

We don;t know the source of the 4th explosion.

WTC 7 didn't collapse.

BBC reported WTC 7 had fallen when it was still standing.

100's of Billions of Corp Fraud destroyed.

'The Soloman Building has also collapsed.' Was still standing.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   9:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#746. To: All (#745)

911 Commission:

Ignored WTC 7.

Looked kinda stupid w/out Flt 93 reaching WTC 7.....;}

I can scream until I'm blue the face and NONE of this will show up on tv.

OKC Bombing Cover up.

Free Fall Speed. Never before. Never since.

Jet fuel can leave molten steel in the basements.

But things made of paper at the Pentagon don't burn.

Successful Conspiracies. The Media is owned by the Pentagon.

An Event was needed to cover the old crimes and pave the way for new ones.

Urban Moving systems brings explosives in.

'One of the towers had an elevator that had mal functioned for a month prior to 9/11.'

Katherine Smith found dead Memphis Feb 2002 fiery car crash. Fraud License.

Suspect had WTC Basement pass.

Hammad claimed he'd been doing work on the sprinkler systems. Port Authority does it's own work on sprikler systems.

Tn Driver's License....similar to elevator fiasco.

Kat Smith died ablaze in her car day before she was to testify.

Hammad released on $250 000 bail.

Why wasn't there a follow up investigation into Dentco Mechanical?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   10:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#747. To: All (#746)

Chertoff/Goss stifled FBI investigations of Obama bin Laden cells.

money from which went to 911 ops.

John O'neill. Anthony Shaffer. Shut down.

The 9/11 ops were always one step ahead. Comverse Israeli wire taps.

FOX Cameron: "As soon as those wiretaps went into place the ops changed their telecommuncations methods....'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   10:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#748. To: All (#747)

Bombs and bombers were found on 9/11.

The steel was quickly destroyed/shipped off to China.

No one but the gov't itself to run the drill of the WTC's being attacked on the Day the WTC's were attacked.

Col Robert Marr. Is this an exercise? 'This is not an exercise.'

NORAD had drills eerily like 9/11.

Purposefully held back defense until it was too late to act.

Anthrax lies.

OBL did not have the means to steal US made anthrax.

The USSA/Israel did this all on their own.

Mohammed Atta.....

He was the one used to link anthrax to Iraq.

He lived next door to Israeli spies.

Just 6 days before 9/11 Atta was seen on Abramoff's Casino Boat.

Able Danger Report...Fox News got clean copy.

We told 911 Commissiion one thing and none of these things showed up in the 911 Commission Report.

We were following the trail of Mohammed Atta.'

Lt Col Tony Shaffer: 'We were tracking Mohammed Atta.'

9500 books bought by Pentagon written by Shaffer and destroyed.

Al qaeda OBL tapes are fake.

Just when bush43 needed them.

One of the tapes was so bad that it took footage form 2006 Road from Guantanomo.

After this they went to just audio tapes....these were debunked as well.

Sep m2002. No proof to prove the 9/11 hijackers.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   10:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#749. To: All (#748)

Adam Pearlman. Dad member of the board on the Anti Defamation League.

'I'm Al Qaeda.'

New AQ.

Al Qatab.

Also fake.

Real name.

Joseph Cohen.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   10:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#750. To: All (#749)

Everything about Al Qaeda is a fake.

You can't get a single instance of OBL referring to Al Qaeda before 9/11.

Rumsfeld: 'Sophisticated caves'. All over.'

Ther weren't any of those.

7 living hi jackers and one who died before the event.

8 out of 19 who could not possibly have particpated in 9/11.

'Whatever trail was left, was left deliberately for the FBI top chase.'

'A major intel Agency night also have been involved.'

Adnan Bukhari was cleared of involvement. Not connectec at all. ID was stolen.

His bro died in a small plane crash.

Worse than passport was stolen.

bush43 claimed not once, but twice that he saw the first plane hit the Twin Towers. Why didn;t he call up Cheney who didn;t get the word until 9:02?

LMFAO

'There's one terrible pilot.

Why didn't the SS move bush43.

Miltaryin PEOC: The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.

The plane is ten miles out.

Do the orders still stand.

Cheney the asshole ticket to Hell punched:

Of course the orders still stand.

You haven't heard anything to the contrary.

Are the the orders to stand by still in effect? Because the plane is getting close.

Flt 77....not Flt 93.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   10:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#751. To: mcgowanjm (#740)

THEN, I'll give you the video of Bibi telling why Mossad did 9/11.

You cannot give that which you do not possess.

And, having read the rest of your nonsense I made a mistake in reading any more of your rants.

You are certifiably nuts and as such not worth my time.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   11:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#752. To: All (#750)

Flt 93 was never just 50 miles from DC.

Norman Mineta arrived PEOC at 9:20

Richard Clark arrived at 903 to find that Cheney/Rice were already in the PEOC

recalls that Mineta arrived at 9:20 because they were looking for him.

911 Commission deleted Mineta's remarks.

You'd think there would be an ivestigation into this....;}

9/11 hijackers visas were issued by the CIA

how separate is AL QAEDA and the CIA?

When did the CIA lose track of OBL?

We know the CIA isn;t losing any sleep over the heroin trade being re intro'd in the Afghans....;}

WaPo: All convicted USS Cole defendants have been escaped from prison or been released or been released by prison officials.

Barbara Bdine blocks John O'Neill's investigation into the Cole bombing. Capt of the Cole a close personla friend of Bodine's....;}

why was the Cole even there instead of in Bahrain where it was scheduled?

How did the terroists know it would be in Yemen?

Still to this day, no investigation into the USS Cole bombing.

Or the Anthrax Attacks.

O 'Neill took a job with Kroll after a frame up by the FBI.

Jerome Hauer, who also took part in the Anthrax Case, hired O'Neill.

Just 2 weeks after getting his new job, O'Neill died in the South Tower WTC.

There so many things wrong with 9/11

Media: 19 Muslim guys who left us a list with 2 magically found passports.

Left a nice neat paper trail. Left Strip Clubs devout Muslims.

Atta: His bag just happened not to get checked in.

The Afghan invasion was set months before 9/11

OBL was in high tech caves. Rumsfeld said there were many lof these caves. They did not exist.

Obl was killed. Body dumped in the ocean.

Anthrax attack to push the Patriot Act along.

An Israel Agent witnessed the transfer of the anthrax from Al Qaeda hijacker by an Iraqi agent.

The Anthrax was made in America.

Even as Powell KNEW the Anthrax was made in America he told the UN that Saddam had the anthrax.

Judith Miller conviced criminal was the liar du jour for the NYT to get the US into Iraq.

Powell at the UN: 'Iraq can produce all the weaponized Anthrax it wishes to."

Cheney reiterated the lie on Meet The Press.

The FBI ordered the Ames Strain destroyed, then went on a wild goose chase.

bush43 was adamant about blocking an investigation into 9/11.

Odigo Messaging Service says workers were warned of the attack. At least 2 individuals came forward about the warnings they had received.

Comverse took a 12.4 % stake in Odigo in 2001.

As of 2002 they own it all.

board of Directors of Hollinger/Comverse:

Kissinger Richard Pearle James R Thompson from the 911 Commission

Hollinger paper the JPost spread the rumor 9/12/01 that 1000's of Jews did not show up for work.

Obfuscate the real fore warnings by Odigo.

Conrad Black, Thompson part of.

Zelikow has total control to set up info of 911 Commission.

Zelikow promoted world view that Iraq did 9/11.

Z forgot that 911 Commission was not to be tool.

Staff member Donna Lezman dug into Saudi Connection. Zelikow Had her 28 pp redacted.

Zelikow was later ID'ed as the author of The Pre Emptive War Doctrine 2002.

In Sep 2002 We did not know that Zelikow had authored this Nat Sec Doc.

Fred Fielding of Z/Blackwater on the 911 Commission.

Is bush43's Lawyer.

911 Commission was a Total Joke.

PNAC Lehman Rebuilding AMerica's Defenses.

Afghan/Iraq A Necessary War

Robert Kagan Bill Kristol war mongers.

WTC 7 was not even investigated.

Silverstein made $7 Billion on 9/11.

Pentagon was hit in the one spot that was trying to account for all the Trillions missing.

The Pentagon cannot account for 25% of what it already spends.'

Rumsfeld 0910/11 'We cannot account for $2.3 Trillion.'

Why is the USSA Always at war.

Perpetual War is the openly stated goal.

Investigate 9/11 end the War Now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   11:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#753. To: All (#752)

www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31079.htm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   11:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#754. To: Fred Mertz (#744)

I remember all those items. Here we are 10 plus years later...

Been doing this from the Day after 2001.

This is the first time I've been able to access an easily watched vid...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   11:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#755. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#7. To: Robin (#6)

You can tell when the USSA is in Epic Fail mode.

They used to roll out Missing White Girls...and War on drugs... now it's Al Qaeda Bomb...BOO.

Even as the USSAtv wasted at least the 1st 4-5 minutes of air time yesterday the plot has already been exposed....Lulz...;}

'Underwear bomber' was working for the CIA Paul Harris and Ed Pilkington in New York

Bomber involved in plot to attack US-bound jet was working as an informer with Saudi intelligence and the CIA, it has emerged

May 8, 2012

F-22 production stopped long ago by LittleHelper on 09.05.2012 [02:48 ] There exist only about 150 of those F-22 fighter jets. Production stopped some time ago, because the US Department of defense has been running out of funds to finance development of them. The US now are concentrating on the F-35 fighter jet, which is the successor of the F-22 in the JSF program. Its development costs are also spiralling out of control, and it's very questionable, whether the F-35 really will be built in large numbers some day.

IMG[www.barchart.com/cach...ed547c828687b5a91a6e7.png

Without the pillars of austerity and "structural adjustment", there is very little justification for the ECB or Germany to continue backstopping the peripheral finances of the Eurozone. It's not as if the consumers or businesses in these countries can even afford to buy Germany's exports anymore, as made all too clear by Rajoy's comments, and the failure of peripheral banks is all but guaranteed. When a financial institution such as Bankia is bailed out, make no mistake - there will be no one able or willing to bail out the Spanish Treasury.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-09   8:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#756. To: All (#755)

Update: Here we go - SPAIN TO NATIONALIZE BANKIA LATER TODAY - ABC

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-09   9:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#757. To: All (#756)

How one could make a film about 911 and not say anything about Israel is beyond me. One would have to intentionally avoid it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-09   10:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#758. To: A K A Stone (#0)

USSA gives Israel one billion for Arrow missile.

Cuts food stamps and free lunches to children here.

F-35 to cost over $Trillion. Will be substandard to what we have now.

Pilots refuse to fly F-22. Oxygen goes out at the worst time. Kills them.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#759. To: All (#758) (Edited)

"The consequences of the end of these two empires can’t be dealt with on the battlefield, as the long debate over the shape of America’s human ecology was, and it can’t be dealt with by jerry-rigging a set of temporary expedients to overcome the mismatch between real wealth and a dysfunctional financial system, as the crisis of the Great Depression was. It will require massive changes in every aspect of American life, starting with a steep decline in standards of living and the forced abandonment of privileges most Americans think of as theirs by right."

-Archdruid Report

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#760. To: All (#759)

"the Greek political complex has become much too rigid and reactionary for the Eurocrats to manage."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#761. To: All (#760)

"And today we have the news that the American ambassador here in Pakistan has actually cut short his assignment here and flown back to Washington because basically the American diplomats here too are complaining that the US military and the CIA are out of control. They do the hard work; they try to work with the Afghan government and the Pakistani government. But when it comes to the US military and the CIA, they destroy everything."

So basically what you see happening right now in Kabul is that President Karzai is in the same position as the US State Department and the US diplomats are in Kabul, which is basically: they cannot trust the US military, they cannot trust the CIA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#762. To: All (#761)

RT: Just about a week ago we had the American President there congratulating his troops on a job well done saying that they are in a process of having peace talks with Taliban, although they are also targeting the Taliban. Is that just a political rhetoric? I thought America was winning a war on terror?

AQ: Absolutely not. I think the Americans are facing an embarrassing defeat in Afghanistan. The civilian deaths we are seeing right now in Afghanistan are one sign of their desperation. They are using all out disproportionate force really to get at what they see as Afghan resistance or Afghan fighters. "

Russia Today (They should know;)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#763. To: All (#762) (Edited)

They take us for fools....;}

' Obama Sends US Special Ops Back into Yemen by John Glaser

"The Pentagon claims they're being sent to train Yemeni forces

May 9, 2012

The Pentagon announced Tuesday it is sending U.S. troops back to Yemen to train Yemeni security forces in a final indication that Washington has been successful in maintaining the status quo, despite a still-active protest movement vying for reform."

The reason for the latest failed false flag.

Another in the Perpetual War before the Inevitable Collapse.

"It is likely that the role of these troops goes well beyond the "routine training" claimed by the Pentagon spokesman, which would mark yet another instance where Obama sends U.S. soldiers into action abroad without the consent of Congress or the American people."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#764. To: All (#763)

Why they hate us...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#765. To: All (#764)

Putin to skip G8 summit, talks with Obama in US Russia's newly-inaugurated President Vladimir Putin speaks during a reception marking Victory Day at the Kremlin in Moscow, on May 9, 2012.Thu May 10, 2012 8:13AM GMT

Russia’s newly-inaugurated President Vladimir Putin has pulled out of the Group of Eight summit in Maryland, US, and ice-breaker talks with US President Barack Obama next week, the Kremlin says.

Raising new questions about Moscow-Washington ties, Putin, who took the oath as the new Russian leader on Monday, informed Obama of his decision during a telephone call on Wednesday.

He noted the need to stay in Moscow to finalize cabinet appointments in the new Russian government, citing he will send Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev in his place. "

..........;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#766. To: All (#765)

The consequences of the end of these two empires can’t be dealt with on the battlefield, as the long debate over the shape of America’s human ecology was, and it can’t be dealt with by jerry-rigging a set of temporary expedients to overcome the mismatch between real wealth and a dysfunctional financial system, as the crisis of the Great Depression was. It will require massive changes in every aspect of American life, starting with a steep decline in standards of living and the forced abandonment of privileges most Americans think of as theirs by right."

About 49% of Americans say they aren't contributing to any retirement plan, according to a new survey conducted by LIMRA, a trade association for the financial services industry.-CNN

Let;s just call it 50%....;}

Reword: They don't have a retirement plan. They don't have a $1000.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#767. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Someone ought to pay me for this.....;}

" Spain Nationalizes BFA and 45% of Bankia; No Bid for CatalunyaCaixa, Bank Worth Less Than Zero; Der Spiegel: Germany Fears "Bottomless Pit"

The implosion in Spanish banks continues. On Wednesday, Spain nationalized BFA, the 8th nationalization since the start of the crisis.

After sinking 3 billion into CatalunyaCaixa, Spain tried to privatize the mess but there were no offers at zero euros. Clearly CatalunyaCaixa bank is worth less than zero.

Meanwhile Der Spiegel reports "Bundesbank has no idea of what is happening in Spanish banks". Mish readers do. The Spanish banking system is without a doubt bankrupt."

-mish

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#768. To: All (#767)

The Spanish banking system is without a doubt bankrupt."

Not Bankrupt. Insolvent....Big Difference.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#769. To: All (#768)

What we’ve been seeing in the last ten days in the EU as a whole is growing evidence that banking debt exposure to intrabank loan clients and ownership of ClubMed subsidiaries are vying with sovereign debt to be uppermost in the minds of nervous investors. And sources in an around Mario Draghi’s ECB continue to hint that the Italian Stallion is nearly out of oats when it comes to eurobank support.

This is partly because all his ‘money’ (loose and somewhat inaccurate term) is going into manipulation of the bond markets discreet purchases of excess bonds left lying around in places like, for example, Spain. The bond yields there on 10-year notes went above 6% again yesterday.

Spain is going to go bang pretty soon. At this rate, there won’t be any FiskalPakt applicants remaining solvent by the time the Fuhrerin gets it together. (And in Ireland, the tide is turning against FP ‘Yes’ campaigners)."

-hat4uk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#770. To: All (#769)

Germany Fears "Bottomless Pit"

Der Spiegel reports "The Bundesbank has no idea of what is happening in Spanish banks

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#771. To: All (#770)

Spain is going to go bang pretty soon. At this rate, there won’t be any FiskalPakt applicants remaining solvent by the time the Fuhrerin gets it together. (And in Ireland, the tide is turning against FP ‘Yes’ campaigners).

Credit Agricole owns 20% of commercial bank Bankinter SA, Spain’s sixth largest bank. The bank has been hit hard by the Troika-aggravated recession in Spain, the shares having declined some 30 per cent over the last 12 months. Spain’s biggest seven banks need €68 billion of additional capital as a buffer against bad loans, and to meet regulatory requirements, according to RBS. All this is the sort of information that (a) demonstrates multivariate contagion and (b) why investors remain acutely aware of CreditAg’s very high level of exposure on several fronts.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#772. To: All (#771)

Bottomless Pit is Exactly Correct

Spain, like Greece before it, is indeed a bottomless pit.

This is not a problem any amount of austerity or reforms can fix. Is Spain going to come up with 200 billion euros to support a trillion in bad loans?

Here is the answer: Not now, not ever, never.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#773. To: All (#772) (Edited)

The next time you see a coke commercial....;}

if you drink large amounts of soda every day you are going to gain weight and you are likely to damage your health.

Sadly, even though we know this, the average American still consumes over 600 12-ounce servings of soda per year.

Is it any wonder that we have an obesity epidemic in America?

Did you know that people living in the United States are three times more likely to have diabetes than people living in the United Kingdom?

It is not a mystery why this is happening.

It is because of our unhealthy diets.

The food we eat is killing us.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#774. To: All (#773)

What more do you need to know:

Poll: US Opposition to Afghan War Hits New High Opposition Levels Unseen Since Vietnam War by Jason Ditz, May 09, 2012 Print This | Share This

A new AP/Gfk poll is showing that the trend of opposition to the Afghan War continues, with an overwhelming 66% of Americans now opposed to the conflict, with only 8 percent of Americans remaining “strongly” in support of it.

The AP compared the poll to a late 1971 poll on the Vietnam War, which showed 65% of Americans opposed to continuing that war. But while the US was slowly beginning its withdrawal from Vietnam at that time, President Obama is just one week off of signing a deal to keep US troops occupying Afghanistan through 2024.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#775. To: A K A Stone (#0)

SURPRISE

[After Hours: 37.95-2.79 (-6.85%) 6:49P EST]

http://www.barchart.com/cache/ab...a5e3a6d9cd42d51d7cd9a.png

JPMorgan has $2 billion trading loss, reputation hit

What reputation was that? It called Geithner and the US treasury cut a check.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   19:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#776. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Also down by 4% to a mere $4.6bn were JP Morgan’s profits. While wondering how on earth they were going to manage on that going forward, my eye fell across a piece in the Journal telling how five US equity investment firm owners would be taking home a bonus of $94m each at the end of March. Bruce Willis diverting that asteroid and dying in the process…that made him worth $94m for the job. But nobody else is worth $94m for a year’s work. Nobody. And anyone who thinks so is a sadly damaged human being."

From February, 2012 -hat4uk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#777. To: All (#776)

Homo sapiens does not have the ability to make fundamental changes in its behavior. Nor is Homo sapiens much interested in the truth about itself.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:46:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#778. To: All (#777)

All those fake numbers being put out by Wall Street, the government and CNBC showing magical growth on the Ponzi paper digit (Alice in Wonderland) side of the equation must be juxtaposed against the real world manufacturing economy that has been in decline for 30 years.

This is the 30 year digital/Ponzi-paper inflation crescendo that has finally crested and, like an ocean wave, will curl over and break. This is also the 30 year engineered interest rate decline that has finally reached its nadir, 0%!

fofoa.blogspot.com/2009/09/end-of-currency.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:50:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#779. To: A K A Stone, All (#778) (Edited)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:53:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#780. To: All (#779)

Let me try and rationalise that apparently intolerant statement. Had anyone come to me in corporate life and said they needed $94m to stay interested in the business, I’d have expressed sympathy for their plight, and fired them. $94m isn’t a bonus, it’s a bonanza leveraged into a bazooka for a bonehead who somehow puts a value on the ownership of meaningless amounts of money. Except, of course, money brings power – and that’s what these reptiles really want.

Note the reptile 'thinking' reference.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#781. To: All (#780)

What did I say at the top? "Rising demand for easy money causes rising interest rates..." So what does a zero Fed Funds rate say? Zero demand for worthless money? I don't know. You tell me.

Here is what I see: 30 years of digital/financial Ponzi-paper inflation has gradually decreased the efficiency of all capital investment, everywhere! Mal-investment is so ubiquitous now that it cannot even be distinguished! Confidence in the future is at an ALL TIME LOW! And mass-confusion about inflation, deflation, stagflation, etc... is at an ALL TIME HIGH! We have truly built our own Tower of Babel!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#782. To: All (#781)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cvdgPlEKW9k/SqRnntuJ1KI/AAAAAAAAArQ/H7uQrGQFhMM/s400/Down.jpg

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#783. To: All (#781)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:58:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#784. To: All (#783)

And so we come roundabout to today's news of JP MORGAN.

The Greatest bank in the USSA.

Normally a 6% drop in a stock is underwhelming.

But in JPM's case we have the Inverted Pyramid above.

That IS JPMorgan's Strategic Play.

There's a very good reason you don;t see Inverted Pyramids in Nature.

They're extremely unstable.

A gust of wind and they topple.

JPM just experienced a gentle gust.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   8:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#785. To: All (#784)

"The two reasons I’m rarely satirical about neocon economics is (a) it’s bad form, and lousy sport, to shoot ducks in a barrel; and (b) the effects of such braindead thinking are every bit as destructive as the ramblings of old Beardy Marx. This stuff can be funny – up to a point. After that point, it’s damned irritating…especially if you’re one of the poor folks. Ronald Reagan remains one of the most revered US Presidents because he cut taxes to create super-wealth which, he said, would trickle down. Well, it didn’t: it gushed upwards into f**kwitted $94m bonuses. "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   8:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#786. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The problem for JPM is it was the flagship for carrying the massive market manipulation that began the day before Thanksgiving Week end.

And now that 'zombie' trendline has been busted all to hell.

The Techy term is the 200 Day MA (Moving Average) has been violated..... :? 8-) :twisted:

Such an innocuous term 'violated'.

www.barchart.com/cache/44...d1b45efc805b4ca4c63a3.png

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   9:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#787. To: A K A Stone (#0)

11 May 2012 JP Morgan Failure Shows the Incompetency of the Fed As Regulator And a Corrupted Government

The spin machine is revving up, and the spokesmodels are gesticulating wildly, in an effort to direct and deflect this failure of governance at JPM.

See how manfully Jamie Dimon has come clean on this. And look how well the Fed's capital standards are protecting us from a failure at JPM because of this unfortunate but 'manageable' trading mistake. This will be a buying opportunity!

jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   10:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#788. To: A K A Stone (#0)

HSBC has a derivative exposure of $4.321 Trilion dollars. HSBC is a Hong Kong based bank and its original name is The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited.

You will find HSBC working a lot with JP Morgan Chase.

Both HSBC and JP Morgan Chase have strong interest in gold & precious metals. HSBC and JP Morgan Chase are often involved together in financial scandals.

Lately HSBC has been sued for allegedly funneling more than $8.9 billion to the largest ponzi-scheme in history - Bernie Maddof's investment business. HSBC (along w/ JP Morgan Chase) has been sued for alleged conspiracy suppressing the price of silver and gold, partially through precious metal DERIVATIVES and making billions of dollars on it.

State of Hawaii is suing HSBC (and other banks) for deceptive credit card lending practices. DZ Bank in Germany is suing HSBC (and JP Morgan) for deceptive (lying) practices when selling home-loan-backed securities.

HSBC is also under investigation for laundering billions of dollars. Bank of New York Mellon - Derivative Exposure Goldman Sachs

Goldman Sachs has a derivative exposure of $44.192 Trillion dollars. The $1 Trillion pillars towers are double-stacked @ 930 feet (248 m). The White House is standing next to the Statue of Liberty.

Goldman Sachs has advantage over other banks because it has awesome connections in US Government. A lot of former Goldman employees hold high-level US Government positions (chart).

Mitt Romney's top donor is Goldman Sachs, and one of Obama's best donors. Ex-CEO of Goldman Sachs, Hank Paulson became the Secretary of Treasury under Bush and during the 2008 financial crisis authored the TARP bill demanding $700 billion bail-out.

In UK, Goldman Sachs escaped £10 million bill on a failed tax avoidance scheme with help of good connections. The bank is the largest player in the food commodities market, earned $955m from food speculation in 2009" - That's your $$$.

Goldman Sachs employees are arming themselves with guns in case there is a populist uprising against the bank. Goldman Sachs calls their investors "muppets". and use clients to make money for themselves, disregarding the clients.

The bank was fined $22 million for sharing valuable nonpublic information with top clients (Think insider trading with best clients). Goldman Sachs was part-owner America's leading website for prostitution ads until the ownership stake was exposed.

Goldman Sachs helped Greece conceal its debt with secret loans, while simultaneously taking advantage of Greece. Goldman Sachs got a $814 billion SECRET bailout from the Federal Reserve during the 2008 crisis.

Goldman Sachs got $10 billion of the 2008 TARP bailout, and in the same year paid $10.9 billion in employee compensation and "benefits", while paying a tax rate of 1%. That means an average of $327,000 to each Goldman Sach's employee.

Just sayin'.....;}

-Demon ocracy.....the Rule of Demons

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   7:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#789. To: All (#788)

JP Morgan Chase (JPM)

JP Morgan Chase has a derivative exposure of $70.151 Trillion dollars. $70 Trillion is roughly the size of the entire world's economy. The $1 Trillion dollar towers are double-stacked @ 930 feet (248 m).

JP Morgan is rumored to hold 50->80% of the copper market, and manipulated the market by massive purchases. JP Morgan (JPM) is also guilty of manipulating the silver market to make billions.

In 2010 JP Morgan had 3 perfect trading quarters and only lost money on 8 days. Lawsuits on home foreclosures have been filed against JP Morgan. Aluminum price is manipulated by JP Morgan through large physical ownership of material and creating bottlenecks during transport. JP Morgan was among the banks involved in the seizure of $620 million in assets for alleged fraud linked to derivatives.

JP Morgan got $25 billion taxpayer in bailout money. It has no intention of using the money to lend to customers, but instead will use it to drive out competition.

The bank is also the largest owner of BP - the oil spill company. During the oil spill the bank said that the oil spill is good for the economy. JP Morgan Chase also received a SECRET $391 billion dollar bailout from the Federal Reserve.

In 2012, JP Morgan (JPM) took a $2 billion loss on "Poorly Executed" Derivative Bets. Bank of New York Mellon - Derivative Exposure 9 Biggest Banks' Derivative Exposure - $228.72 Trillion

Note the little man standing in front of white house. The little worm next to lastfootball field is a truck with $2 billion dollars.

There is no government in the world that has this kind of money. This is roughly 3 times the entire world economy. The unregulated market presents a massive financial risk. The corruption and immorality of the banks makes the situation worse.

If you don't want to bank with these banks, but want to have access to free ATM's anywhere-- most Credit Unions in USA are in the CO-OP ATM network, where all ATM's are free to any COOP CU member and most support depositing checks. The Credit Unions are like banks, but invest all their profits to give members lower rates and better service. They don't have shareholders to worry about or have derivatives to purchase and sell.

Keep an eye out in the news for "derivative crisis", as the crisis is inevitable with current falling value of most real assets. Derivative Data Source: ZeroHedge

demonocracy.info/infograp...atives/bank_exposure.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   7:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#790. To: All (#789)

Let's see, the average couple is going to need nearly a quarter of a million dollars to cover their health care costs in retirement, and yet half of all American adults have no retirement savings of any kind, let alone for health care.

This will not end well.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   8:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#791. To: All (#790)

RawStory: Geraldo Rivera: I was ‘manually raped’ by the TSA Fox News host Geraldo Rivera on Friday claimed that an employee of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) had “manually raped” him and “was getting off on it.”

Then they took the 18 month terrorist baby off the plane.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   8:25:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#792. To: All (#791)

PeakOil.com: OPEC oil production climbs to 31.71 million barrels per day in April | Peak Oil News and Message Boards - The latest Platts’ monthly survey of OPEC production shows two highly significant trends: sanctions are starting to pinch Iranian output, and other OPEC countries are stepping in to fill the gap.

Which means that Non OPEC dropped to 42.5 MMBD.

Because World Production is flat at best....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   8:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#793. To: All (#792)

WSJ: Chesapeake Deals Carry $1.4 Billion in Undisclosed Liability - Embattled Chesapeake Energy Corp. has saddled itself with about $1.4 billion of previously unreported liabilities over the next decade through off-balance-sheet financial deals. Most of these costs will hit this year and next, at a time when the company needs to raise substantial cash to cover operating expenses and its move into the more lucrative oil business. Chesapeake, the second-largest natural-gas producer in the U.S., has made a number of long-term commitments to Wall Street banks that require it to deliver specific amounts of oil and natural gas each month through 2022, in exchange for upfront cash.

Thank God, CHK never drilled my land....what a fucked up company riding on a trumped up Gas Bubble....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   8:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#794. To: All (#793) (Edited)

Note how the Main Concern is the 'Leak'.

How can the USSA mount successful False Flags if the story gets out before Intel is ready?

LMFAO

"The operation appears to have been a joint venture between the British, Saudi Arabian and U.S. intelligence services, some analysts say, and its exposure in the U.S. media has caused widespread concern in the U.S. intelligence community.

The Saudis and British appear to be concerned too.

"The Saudis are not happy with the leaking of this information," said Mustafa Alani, a security analyst with good contacts among Gulf Arab governments.

"It is potentially harmful for future operations. And it is the Saudis who have the agents on the ground to get these things done."

www.reuters.com/article/2...aks-idUSBRE84A0LK20120511

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   8:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#795. To: All (#771)

Financial 'community' now take s41% of ALL USSA profits.

Shake down....organized crime can't compete....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   9:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#796. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Fed Res is doing everything possible to stoke inflation and it's not working.

Debt is being eaten faster.

Deflation roaring.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   10:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#797. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Another hulking character who identified himself as a member of Unit 51 from the Israeli army’s Golani Brigade paratrooper corps barked at the activists, “The only thing you are is a bunch of traitors. Every day people here are fighting… This is unbelievable. You are traitors and if we had the chance we would shoot you one by one. One by one we would shoot you…”

The demonstration concluded with police violently arresting three participants including one man for the crime of reading aloud the names of destroyed Palestinian villages.

Lia Tarachansky of the Real News Network filmed the melee. Her footage is below:"

And he would. Sharon's buddies would shoot them....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   7:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#798. To: All (#797) (Edited)

The repression of Zochrot’s educational action was the street level manifestation of the campaign the Israeli government has waged to mute discussion of the Nakba and punish those who violate the code of silence.

Israel’s Education Minister, declared that merely allowing students to learn about the mass expulsion of Palestinians during 1947 and 1948 would encourage them to work against the Jewish state.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   7:32:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#799. To: All (#798)

“If a person cannot walk into the middle of the town square and express his or her views without fear of arrest, imprisonment, or physical harm,” the book read, “then that person is living in a fear society, not a free society.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   7:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#800. To: All (#799) (Edited)

peakoil.com/enviroment/ep...t-used-in-gulf-of-mexico/

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Quantcast EPA Grossly Misrepresents The Toxicity Of Corexit Used In Gulf Of Mexico EPA Grossly Misrepresents The Toxicity Of Corexit Used In Gulf Of Mexico thumbnail

Quite incredibly, the EPA issued a positive report on May 1, 2012 regarding the safety and toxicity of various dispersants use in the BP Gulf Oil Spill. Included in this assessment was the use of Corexit.

This report “indicated that all eight dispersants had roughly the same toxicity, and all fell into the “practically non-toxic” or “slightly toxic” category. Scientists found that none of the eight dispersants displayed endocrine-disrupting activity of “biological significance.” The same report went on to say that “dispersant-oil mixtures were generally no more toxic to the aquatic test species than oil alone.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   7:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#801. To: All (#800)

Hidden Crisis in the GULF. Barbara Wiseman, TEO President, has been an ardent advocate for safer oil remediation measures since the very beginning of this oil spill. She has said that:

“At the beginning of the disaster, TEO investigated to find effective, non-toxic technologies currently available in adequate supply to clean up an oil spill of this size. Once we isolated the best solutions, we then investigated to find what the barriers to getting them implemented were. The barriers have all come down to specific people in the EPA. They are, in effect, holding the Gulf hostage and, for some unexplained reason, won’t let it be cleaned up.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   7:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#802. To: All (#801)

A 2nd Anniversary Report on the BP Gulf Oil Spill as follows:

“The toxic dispersants add absolutely nothing to EFFECTIVE RESPONSE. There is no scientific basis for it, and their use violates The Clean Water Act, EPA’s charter and common sense.”

“Corexit’s label clearly states it can cause kidney failure and death and the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) specifically warns, “Do not contaminate surface water” with it. Additionally, toxicity testing in regards to marine species shows little tolerance by all forms of sea life; thus, applying it on spills as a preferred response method increases the toxicity of the spilled oil on which it is used.”

NaturalSociety.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   7:41:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#803. To: All (#802)

Print Afghan police kill two British soldiers in Helmand Province Sun May 13, 2012 8:50AM GMT Latest reports indicate that members of the Afghan national police force have shot dead at least two British soldiers in the troubled Helmand Province of Afghanistan.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/05/13/240961/afghan-police-kill-two-british-soldiers/

4 US-led soldiers killed in Afghanistan Sat May 12, 2012 3:9PM GMT At least four US-led troops have been killed in separate incidents in Afghanistan in the past 24 hours, as attacks against the United States and its Western allies have increased in the war-wracked country.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   7:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#804. To: All (#803)

WRH

Brave Afghan shoots 12 US-NATO invaders in Kunar Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Friday, 19 Jamadil Akhir 1433 Friday, 11 May 2012 12:59

KUNAR, May 11 – A brave Afghan, apparently working as soldier of puppet forces turned his gun on the US-NATO terrorist troops in the invaders’ army base located in Agam, Ghazi Abad district of Kunar province on Friday, killing as many as 12 US-Nato cowardly troops and wounded a dozen more, a Mujahideen’s official said Friday, adding that the said spirited Afghan had been enlisted in the puppets’ army for the very purpose and after accomplishing his heroic mission joined Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate safe and sound with his machine gun and an American heavy machine gun.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   7:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#805. To: All (#804)

Enemy sustain severe losses in Kabul Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 21 Jamadil Akhir 1433 Sunday, 13 May 2012 07:01

KABUL, May 13 – Later on Saturday, Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate confronted a great number of the puppets in Sarubi, Kabul, triggering a one-hour fight in which a number of the enemy soldiers got killed and wounded.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   8:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#806. To: All (#805)

We’re Fighting in a War We Lost Before the War Began by Phyllis Bennis, May 12, 2012 Print This | Share This

It shouldn’t surprise anyone, but support for the longest U.S. war is dropping further and faster than ever. The latest national U.S. poll, released on May 9, shows 66 percent of Americans are against the war in Afghanistan – with 40 percent "strongly opposed."

We can expect to hear the usual spin, claims that it’s a hard slog but Afghans are still better off and we have to finish what we started.

With all due respect to Phyllis, no one will hear Any spin because none is necessary.

No one is reporting anything about the Afghans. Refute silence? ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   8:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#807. To: All (#806)

If that money ($571 billion according to the National Priorities Project) had not been wasted on the war in Afghanistan since 2001, it could instead have paid for ten years of health care for 12 million low-income people, or hired 840,000 elementary school teachers for ten years, or paid for converting 246 million households to all solar energy for a year."

us spends more in 5 hours on defense than in 5 years on healthcare

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   8:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#808. To: mcgowanjm (#807)

us spends more in 5 hours on defense than in 5 years on healthcare

How about 3 hours on offense and 2 hours on defense?

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-13   8:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#809. To: All (#807)

The move reveals for the first time the desperation of Mr Cameron, then Leader of the Opposition, and Mr Osborne, to win over the Murdoch empire as they manoeuvred to secure a general election victory.

As the Leveson inquiry prepares to hear more evidence this week about the relations between News International and the Tories, The Independent on Sunday has learnt that Rebekah Brooks and her husband spent a weekend at Dorneywood, the Chancellor's official residence, during a key period in the bid by News Corp to take over BSkyB.

The previously undisclosed "pyjama party", in 2010, which also featured Mr Coulson and his wife, Eloise, will add fuel to demands for the Chancellor to be called to give evidence to Leveson in person.

www.independent.co.uk/new...merons-bluff-7742363.html

The IoS piece goes on to point out that Cameron, Hunt, Brooks and most of Newscorp’s lawyers were more or less sharing bodily fluids nonstop during the crucial BSkyB bid run-up, and even more so once Vince Cable was conveniently pushed out of the juggernaut’s way. In a normal world, there is no way either Hunt or Cameron should survive such a clear case of Prime Ministerial favouritism.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   8:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#810. To: harrowup (#808)

How about 3 hours on offense and 2 hours on defense?

Yeah...;}...I was lazy. You caught me.

Edit:

us spends more in 5 hours on War than in 5 years on Healthcare

And War is used when the perps have run out of arguements.

There. Fixed...;}

Thanx, Hup.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   8:44:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#811. To: All (#810)

JP Morgan the majority owner of bp loves the Wars for the Jews.

Even as it desperately tries to stop the bleeding:

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   8:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#812. To: All (#811)

What JP Morgan and Jamie Dimon have absolutely Zero clue about:

Scaling-law relations characterize an immense number of natural processes, prominently in the form of

1. scaling-law distributions, 2. scale-free networks, 3. cumulative relations of stochastic processes.

A scaling law, or power law, is a simple polynomial functional relationship, i.e., f(x) depends on a power of x. Two properties of such laws can easily be shown:

* a logarithmic mapping yields a linear relationship, * scaling the function’s argument x preserves the shape of the function f(x), called scale invariance.

See (Sornette, 2006).

Scaling-Law Distributions Scaling-law distributions have been observed in an extraordinary wide range of natural phenomena: from physics, biology, earth and planetary sciences, economics and finance, computer science and demography to the social sciences; see (Newman, 2004). It is truly amazing, that such diverse topics as

* the size of earthquakes, moon craters, solar flares, computer files, sand particle, wars and price moves in financial markets,

* the number of scientific papers written, citations received by publications, hits on webpages and species in biological taxa,

* the sales of music, books and other commodities,

* the population of cities,

* the income of people,

* the frequency of words used in human languages and of occurrences of personal names,

* the areas burnt in forest fires,

are all described by scaling-law distributions. First used to describe the observed income distribution of households by the economist Pareto in 1897, the recent advancements in the study of complex systems have helped uncover some of the possible mechanisms behind this universal law. However, there is as of yet no real understanding of the physical processes driving these systems.

AND

For how long have we known about the fat tails?

"Heavy tails: the (unconditional) distribution of returns seems to display a power-law or Pareto-like tail, with a tail index which is finite, higher than two and less than five for most data sets studied.

In particular this excludes stable laws with infinite variance and the normal distribution. However the precise form of the tails is difficult to determine."

Cont (2001) # MANTEGNA, R.N. and H.E. STANLEY, 1999. Introduction to Econophysics: Correlations and Complexity in Finance. books.google.com. "The degree of leptokurtosis is much larger for high-frequency data (Fig. 8.2)." Mantegna and Stanley (2000)

What JP Morgan's MANY theoreticians are desperately trying to wrap their heads around at this very moment:

"However the precise form of the tails is difficult to determine."

LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   9:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#813. To: All (#812)

"The main concepts that are needed to understand stock markets are imitation, herding, self-organized cooperativity and positive feedbacks, leading to the development of endogenous instabilities. According to this theory, local effects such as interest raises, new tax laws, new regulations and so on, invoked as the cause of the burst of a given bubble leading to a crash, are only one of the triggering factors but not the fundamental cause of the bubble collapse. We propose that the true origin of a bubble and of its collapse lies in the unsustainable pace of stock market price growth based on self-reinforcing over-optimistic anticipation. As a speculative bubble develops, it becomes more and more unstable and very susceptible to any disturbance."

Jamie Dimon, the king of controlled risk, just now hearing about any of this

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   9:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#814. To: All (#813)

www.er.ethz.ch/essays/marketcrashes

"statistics is what tells you if something is true, false, or merely anecdotal; it is the “logic of science”; it is the instrument of risk-taking; it is the applied tools of epistemology; you can’t be a modern intellectual and not think probabilistically—but… let’s not be suckers. The problem is much more complicated than it seems to the casual, mechanistic user who picked it up in graduate school. Statistics can fool you.

In fact it is fooling your government right now. It can even bankrupt the system (let’s face it: use of probabilistic methods for the estimation of risks did just blow up the banking system)."

www.zerohedge.com/contrib...everyone+drops+to+zero%29

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   9:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#815. To: All (#814)

Clearly, with current International Monetary Fund estimates of the costs of the 2007-2008 subprime crisis, the banking system seems to have lost more on risk taking (from the failures of quantitative risk management) than every penny banks ever earned taking risks.

But it was easy to see from the past that the pilot did not have the qualifications to fly the plane and was using the wrong navigation tools:

The same happened in 1983 with money center banks losing cumulatively every penny ever made, and in 1991-1992 when the Savings and Loans industry became history.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   9:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#816. To: All (#815)

After 1998, when a “Nobel-crowned” collection of people (and the crème de la crème of the financial economics establishment) blew up Long Term Capital Management,

a hedge fund, because the “scientific” methods they used misestimated the role of the rare event, such methodologies and such claims on understanding risks of rare events should have been discredited.

Yet the Fed helped their bailoutand exposure to rare events (and model error) patently increased exponentially (as we can see from banks’ swelling portfolios of derivatives that we do not understand).

http://www.zerohedge.com/contrib...everyone+drops+to+zero%29 JPMorgan now has $90 Trillion in Synthetic debt derivatives. That's more than the Entire Planet's annual GDP.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   9:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#817. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.mybudget360.com/top-1...-promises-of-mega-wealth/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   10:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#818. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Taleb:

Figure 1 My classical metaphor: A Turkey is fed for a 1000 days—every days confirms to its statistical department that the human race cares about its welfare "with increased statistical significance". On the 1001st day, the turkey has a surprise.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-13   10:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#819. To: A K A Stone (#0)

people tend to overweight small probability events.

So, what is behavioural economics?

Well, behavioural economics recognises the limits of human rationality, with ‘rationality’ being defined by the mainstream economic sense of the word, and comprises of a number of observations appertaining to human decision making that do not sit well with the neoclassical orthodoxy (Dolan et al. 2010). These include:

the observation that losses loom substantially larger than gains, a phenomenon known as loss aversion;

(ii) that reference points matter, such that people often care more about what they gain or lose around what they already have, rather than what they end up with;

(iii) that people tend to overweight small probabilities;

(iv) that people allocate their money to discrete bundles, so that the value that they attach to a particular amount of money will be contextual;

(v) the observation of motivational crowding, such that offering money to people to do something has been shown often to ‘crowd-out’ their intrinsic, altruistic motivation to do that very thing; and

(vi) ‘hyperbolic discounting’, which is the observation that people tend to place an enormous weight on the ‘immediate’ compared to the future, living for today at the expense of tomorrow.

blogs.lse.ac.uk/healthand...avioural-economic-policy/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   7:27:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#820. To: All (#819)

In addition to the above stated observations, individuals often seemingly adopt a number of rules of thumb (or ‘heuristics’) when reaching their decisions, and apparently ‘satisfice’ rather than ‘optimise’, which goes against the grain of mainstream economics.

A far from exhaustive list of these rules of thumb include:

(a) the availability heuristic, in which people tend to assess the probability of an event by the ease with which similar instances can be brought to mind (e.g. many people erroneously think that the annual death rate from shark attacks is greater than that caused by falling coconuts);

(b) the anchoring heuristic, in which individuals often unconsciously focus upon, and can be manipulated by, entirely irrelevant cues when making decisions, and

(c) the overconfidence bias (e.g. most people think their driving ability is better than average), which has obvious implications for choices in financial markets, and elsewhere.

Behavioural economists have thus uncovered a library of systematic preference patterns and heuristics that cannot be explained by standard economic theory. Interestingly, although perhaps for many, on reflection, unsurprisingly, several of the observations and rules of thumb (e.g. the importance of reference points, availability, anchoring)

appear to suggest that humans are influenced very much by prominent, or ‘salient’, attributes in choice options – once their attention is focussed (sic) upon a particular feature of a task, they tend to overlook somewhat other potentially important information (for an entertaining example of this phenomenon, see selective attention test).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo&feature=player_

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   7:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#821. To: All (#820)

When the world pushes you to your knees, your are in the perfect position to pray. ... Ali ibn abi Talib (radiAllah anhu)

Which is where Jamie Dimon should be right about now....;}

Now here's Dimon/JPM's muse from 2008, explaining why

The Black Swan: Quotes & Warnings that the Imbeciles Chose to Ignore

is/was worth ignoring.

I'm wondering if Jamie spent some time with

Posted by Eric Falkenstein at 8:31 PM Sunday, December 07, 2008

Now THAT's an amazing date to be pontificating on how Behavioral Economics/Power Laws/Central Limit Theorums/ and the risk of Untold exposure to Non Linear Heavy Tail Risk is TOTALLY out of fashion.

As bush43 and a traitorous Congress REWARD WALL ST BANKSTERS for bringing the SYSTEM to its KNEES.

When the world pushes you to your knees, your are in the perfect position to pray. ... Ali ibn abi Talib (radiAllah anhu)

But INSTEAD of praying, these BANKSTERS get to run the ship into ANOTHER iceberg in order to speed the sinking.....LMFAO...8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   7:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#822. To: All (#821)

Taleb Blames VAR, Merton, Scholes for Crimes

Taleb was/is EXACTLY correct and

"I'm wondering if Jamie spent some time with

Posted by Eric Falkenstein at 8:31 PM Sunday, December 07, 2008"

are EXACTLY wrong.

falkenblog.blogspot.com/2...r-merton-scholes-for.html

Minus Chaos Theory or even a blind hog can pick up an acorn every now & then EXCEPTION...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   7:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#823. To: All (#822)

Notice how Falkenstein/Dimon NEVER consider FRAUD CONTROL in the following (VaR analysis;)?

" Value at Risk is a broad concept, that basically is a framework that has as its goal estimating a 99% or 95% worst-case-scenario, over an arbitrary period of time (day, week, year). Now, clearly many people underestimated the risk in mortgage-backed paper of all sorts, but this error was not particular to Value at Risk, rather, the assumption that housing prices would not decline, which then lead to errors in your stress test, or whatever you call your 'worst case scenario'. This error was made at many levels, by investors, issuers, rating agencies, banks who warehoused these loans, regulators, etc. Again, Value at Risk is pretty independent of this error, though the error would be reflected in any VAR that had such erroneous assumptions (garbage in, garbage out). Further, Value at risk is pretty agnostic as to method, whether you use data with really fat tails, 99.99% worst case scenarios, whatever you want. Blaming Value at Risk for the latest crisis is like blaming soup, rather than sanitation, for Typhoid Mary.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   7:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#824. To: All (#823)

And with Jamie Dimon's EPIC FAIL, this arguement from Falkenstein has proved prescient and yet Falkenstein thought it was beautifully insane to even think about.....;}

" My argument still stands: he's basically someone who makes the perfect the enemy of the good. Like a communist reveling in the Great Depression, Taleb may take heart in recent events vindicating his worldview, but as Taleb knows, there are always 'lucky fools' who merely were fortunate. I would like to see a risk management report from Taleb, perhaps a page always saying "risk=inf", because of course, we could lose everything in WW3, a new virus,

***** all the banks fail, etc.*****

Every assumption isn't true, so make no assumptions. Be prepared for anything. Go long volatility (especially extreme tails). I don't think that's very good advice, though clearly it worked great this year (and funds he's affiliated have done very well, being long tail volatility).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#825. To: All (#824) (Edited)

Taleb's reply:

Against Value-at-Risk(Edit:VaR): Nassim Taleb Replies to Philippe Jorion

http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/jorion.html

Note to the reader: this was written a decade ago. A deeper explanation (which tells you that Jorion & his financial engineering IDIOTS are dangerous to society) is here: "The Fourth Quadrant", an EDGE (Third Culture)

A different (source) but succinct summary:

www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/335383

"These patterns suggest that standard economic models based on the notion of equilibrium — markets will fluctuate but then settle down like the surface of a still pond — may not capture the whole story. Freak events may be a normal part of long-term economic behavior. If that’s true, then the mathematical methods guiding Wall Street’s estimation of risk are seriously flawed, offering a dangerous false sense of security.

“You have to understand that the bad events can be really, really bad,” says J. Doyne Farmer, who is trained in physics and does research spanning several disciplines at the Santa Fe Institute in New Mexico. “And there’s a significant chance that over a five-year period we will get hit by a really big event. That’s where the rubber really hits the road.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#826. To: All (#825) (Edited)

My refutation of the VAR does not mean that I am against quantitative risk management - having spent all of my adult life as a quantitative trader, I learned the hard way the fails of such methods. I am simply against the application of unseasonned quantitative methods. I think that VAR would be a wonderful measurement if we had models designed for that purpose and knew something about their parameters. The validity of VAR is linked to the problem of probabilistic measurement of future events, particularly those deemed infrequent (more than 2 standard deviations) and those that concern multiple securities. I conjecture that the methods we currently use to measure such tail probabilities are flawed.

FLAWED

A Standard Deviation = a SIGMA Example: How far a random group of economists missed a BLS NFP report. Before 9/11 a 2 Sigma (Standard Deviation;) Event Miss was Unusual.

But after 9/11, we've regularly had 3&4 Sigma Events.

the informative book by Philippe Jorion, "It summarizes the expected maximum loss (or worst loss) over a target horizon within a given confidence interval".

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#827. To: All (#826)

"It is the uniqueness, precision and misplaced concreteness of the measure that bother me. I would rather hear risk managers make statements like "at such price in such security A and at such price in security B, we will be down $150,000". They should present a list of such associated crisis scenarios without unduly attaching probabilities to the array of events, until such time as we can show a better grasp of probability of large deviations for portfolios and better confidence with our measurement of "confidence levels". There is an internal contradiction between measuring risk (i.e. standard deviation) and using a tool with a higher standard error than that of the measure itself. "

Taleb 1997.

If the above had been followed, we wouldn't be facing TOTAL MELTDOWN of our banking system THIS morning.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#828. To: All (#827)

The risk management objective function is survival, not profits and losses ( see rule-of-thumb 8 ). A trader according to the Chicago legend, "made 8 million in eight years and lost 80 million in eight minutes". According to the same standards, he would be, "in general", and "on average" a good risk manager.

I’m still in a tryptophan coma, but here’s a timely mention of the story of the turkey from Nassim Taleb’s book The Black Swan which I am (supposed to be) reading. The following excerpt is taken from the transcript of a Charlie Rose interview.

—— CHARLIE ROSE: And what is the story of the turkey?

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: In the book, I have the story of a turkey that is fed for 1,000 days by a butcher, and every day confirms to the turkey and the turkey’s economics department and the turkey’s risk management department and the turkey’s analytical department that the butcher loves turkeys, and every day brings more confidence to the statement. So it’s fed for 1,000 days…

CHARLIE ROSE: Gets fatter and fatter and fatter.

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: Fatter and fatter. On the day when its comfort will be at its maximum, there is going to be a surprise. There will be a surprise for the turkey.

CHARLIE ROSE: Yes.

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: There will be a surprise for the turkey’s economics department, all those Ph.D.’s. Will it be — after all, there’s maximum (inaudible)…

CHARLIE ROSE: But it’s not a surprise for the butcher, is it?

NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: Not a surprise for Charlie Rose as well. Not a surprise for humans. It’s a surprise for the turkey. So the whole idea here is we are not to be a turkey.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#829. To: All (#828)

Jamie Dimon and JP Morgan ARE the turkey.

Happy TurkeyDay, Jamie!!!!...Lulz...8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#830. To: All (#829)

Now the question is, WTF did the top of the Ponzi Bondholders actually GET the money to loan to you?

At some point, it had to be Borrowed into existence with the Central Bank creating the currency. So if you are close enough connected to the center of this, you can Borrow money at very low interest directly from Da Fed to then go and loan at higher interest to somebody else and collect on the spread between those rates.

This is bad enough, but the evolution of Derivatives made it even worse, because lots of Banking Houses could create financial instruments like CDS and CDO without ever actually borrowing money from Da Fed to do it. These instruments represent Trillions if not Quadrillions of Dollars of debt obligations that cannot be paid off unless Da Fed goes ahead on a Printing Spree that would make the current one look like a Sunday Picnic.

Needless to say, I don’t think the Political Will is there to do that kind of printing, it would totally destroy the currency and that is not in the interest of the people who hold all the Bonds. The trick here is to keep the House of Cards standing so these instruments do not trip.

However, as the debt problem moves up the line to bigger and bigger Sovereigns (next up, Spain and CA), just the amounts necessary to make them nominally solvent is probably beyond the political will of the Banks, and most certainly against the political will of the populations that are forced into Austerity. So at some point here the Ponzi will collapse.

-hat4uk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#831. To: All (#830)

Taleb:

Nor am I swayed with the usual argument that the VAR' s wide-spread use by financial institutions should give it a measure of scientific credibility. Banks have the ingrained habit of plunging headlong into mistakes together where blame-minimizing managers appear to feel comfortable making blunders so long as their competitors are making the same ones.

The state of the Japanese and French banking systems, the stories of lending to Latin America, the chronic real estate booms and bust and the S&L debacle provide us with an interesting cycle of communal irrationality. I believe that the VAR is the alibi bankers will give shareholders (and the bailing-out taxpayer)

to show documented due diligence and will express that their blow-up came from truly unforeseeable circumstances and events with low probability - not from taking large risks they did not understand.

But my sense of social responsibility will force me to menacingly point my finger. I maintain that the due-diligence VAR tool encourages untrained people to take misdirected risk with the shareholder's, and ultimately the taxpayer's, money.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#832. To: All (#831)

Copyright 1997 by Nassim Taleb.

That's....Wait for IT....15 Years ago.

That's how long, at least, that us Dirty Fuckin hippies have been yelling this warning.

Maybe we shoulda been whisperin' instead....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#833. To: All (#832)

Jesse over on Café Americain

makes the Hypothesis that Da Fed is sufficiently in control of all of this that they can manage a controlled Stagflation, but to me this begs the question of what is going on all around the World all tied to the Dollar as World Reserve Currency.

While here in the FSofA we might be able to withstand a Slow Boiled Frog effect of say a 10% yearly Inflation of Prices while Wages Deflate at 10% and not run up into a Rock/Hard Place situation for 5 years,

that is not the case for all the impoverished countries around the world where people live on $2/day and 90% of their income goes to just buying enough Rice to make it to tomorrow."

-hat4uk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#834. To: All (#833) (Edited)

"Options may or may not deliver an estimation of the consensus on volatility and correlations. We can compute, in some markets, some transition probabilities and, in some currency pairs with liquid crosses, joint transition probabilities (hence local correlation). We cannot, however, use such pricing kernels as gospel. Option traders do not have perfect foresight, and, as much as I would like them to, cannot be considered prophets. Why should their forecast of the second moment be superior to that of a forward trader's future price ?"

-Taleb

We're now at least $1.75 Quadrillion in Synthetic Debt Derivatives later.

JPMorgan holds over $90 Trillion of this vaporware....;}.... more than the COMBINED WORLD GDP. Been arguing this point since 1982....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#835. To: All (#834)

"As long as Da Fed is “managing” a steady inflation, these folks ($2/day/90% of income goes to enough RIce to make it to tomorrow;) are going to be quickly (if they are not already there) in a position where they simply cannot afford to buy enough food to eat.

If they are in a location where there is no Oil, it’s a Humanitarian Crisis but we don’t send in the Marines. If it is a location where there IS Oil, we clearly DO send in the Marines to try to secure the Oil Fields.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#836. To: All (#835)

We also have to send Food Aid to the faction that will line up with us for the moment, and arm them with AR-15s and RPGs at the very least to try to take back control.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#837. To: All (#836)

That problem is difficult enough by itself to manage, but on top of that you have all these Wars breaking out in marginal countries, and you also have your Natural Disasters like Tsunamis messing up Production out of Japan and Cyclones turning part of Australia into an Inland Sea and now apparently non-stop Tornadoes taking out Airports like Lambert in St Louis.

How many of you noted the story in the Newz that Shillary Clinton was in Japan promoting a “Private/Public” Partnership to help the Japanese rebuild? She was joined by Chamber of Commerce Big Wigs from Nippon and the FSofA, basically BEGGING people not to Abandon Japan. You have to KNOW they are doing this because companies are EVACUATING Tokyo in droves.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#838. To: All (#837) (Edited)

"I only see one use of covariance matrices: in speculative trading, where the bets are on the first moment of the marginal distributions, and where operators rely on the criticized "trader lore" for higher moments. Such technique, which I call generalized pairs trading, has been carried in the past with large measure of success by "kids with Brooklyn accent". A use of the covariance matrix that is humble enough to limit itself to conditional expectations (not risks of tail events) is acceptable, provided it is handled by someone with the critical and rigorous mind that develops from the observation of, and experimentation with, real-time market events. "

www.fooledbyrandomness.com/jorion.html

EXACTLY what I was doing until driven off the ranch by Synthetic Debt Derivative 'options' trading circa Reagan/Greenspan....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#839. To: All (#838)

WTF is going to stay in Tokyo with an Office when they can move it over to Taiwan or Shanghai or Hong Kong or Singapore? The Nip Goobermint is now talking about a “6-9 Month” period to get some control over the reactors. No actual plan here for doing so, but this is the spin. Even if it was only 6-9 months, who would stay there while they figure it out?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   8:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#840. To: All (#839)

Our standard of living will approach that of the current 3rd World. This is inevitable now, its just a question of how long it will take to slide down and how the society will adjust to the new reality.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   9:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#841. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Here is the good news: we are 100.4% certain JPM was the ONLY prop trading bank to be massively, massively short IG9-18 into this epic blow out. Because if other had suffered billion dollar losses, they would all pull a Jamie Dimon and fess up. Right?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   10:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#842. To: All (#841)

Warning: This commentary is not for the faint of heart.

I thought I'd start this particular Monday morning, May the 14th, with a little rant. Sometimes it helps to ditch the uber-rational, cool-headed analysis and remind people just how screwed up things are on this third toxic landfill from the Sun.

BUWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   10:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#843. To: mcgowanjm (#842)

Just checking in Jim; I had 'puter problems for several days and now I'm connected again. I'm excited to see Saturday's Preakness.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-14   11:05:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#844. To: All (#39)

And then the wo/man calmly walked out the front door, got in a car, and drove away, telephoning the Taliban to report FOUR men killed....;}

If you were a Muslim terrorist seeking retribution for Washington’s crimes, would you try to smuggle aboard an airliner a bomb in your underwear or shoe in order to blow up people whose only responsibility for Washington’s war against Muslims is that they fell for Washington’s propaganda? If you wanted to blow up the innocent, wouldn’t you instead place your bomb in the middle of the mass of humanity waiting to clear airport security and take out TSA personnel along with passengers? Terrorists could coordinate their attacks, hitting a number of large airports across the US at the same minute. This would be real terror. Moreover, it would present TSA with an insolvable problem: how can people be screened before they are screened?

Or coordinated attacks on shopping malls and sports events?

Why should terrorists, if they exist, bother to kill people when it is easy to cause mayhem by not killing them? There are a large number of unguarded electric power substations. Entire regions of the country could be shut down. The simplest disruptive act would be to release large quantities of roofing nails in the midst of rush hour traffic in Boston, New York, Washington DC, Atlanta, Dallas, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco. You get the picture: thousands and thousands of cars disabled with flat tires blocking the main arteries for days.

Before some reader accuses me of giving terrorists ideas, ask yourself if you really think people so clever as to have allegedly planned and carried out 9/11 couldn’t think of such simple tactics, plots that could be carried out without having to defeat security or kill innocent people? My point isn’t what terrorists, if they exist, should do. The point is that the absence of easy-to-do acts of terrorism suggests that the terrorist threat is more hype than reality. Yet, we have an expensive, intrusive security apparatus that seems to have no real function except to exercise power over American citizens.

Paul Craig Roberts

EXACTLY.....BOO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   10:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#845. To: mcgowanjm (#664)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-15   11:11:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#846. To: Fred Mertz (#843)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-16   13:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#847. To: redleghunter (#845)

Thanx for the lead in to talk about Israeli's at the USSA tit....;}

H.R. 4133, the United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012, was introduced into the House of Representatives of the 112th Congress on March 5 “to express the sense of Congress regarding the United States-Israel strategic relationship, to direct the president to submit to Congress reports on United States actions to enhance this relationship and to assist in the defense of Israel, and for other purposes.” The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) reportedly helped draft the bill, and its co-sponsors include Republicans Eric Cantor and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and Democrats Howard Berman and Steny Hoyer. Hoyer is the Democratic whip in the House of Representatives, where Cantor is majority leader. Ros-Lehtinen heads the Foreign Affairs Committee.

The House bill basically provides Israel with a blank check drawn on the U.S. taxpayer to maintain its “qualitative military edge” over all of its neighbors combined. It requires the White House to prepare an annual report on how that superiority is being maintained. The resolution passed on May 9 by a vote of 411–2 on a “suspension of the rules,” which is intended for non-controversial legislation requiring little debate and a quick vote."

The AustroHungarian Empire could only dream of having the KAiser do the same....And history calls THAt a blank cheque....LMFAO

A Congress with a 10% Approval cast a 411-2 vote for Israel....8D

Feel like a Third World Country yet?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   7:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#848. To: Fred Mertz (#843)

Just checking in Jim; I had 'puter problems for several days and now I'm connected again. I'm excited to see Saturday's Preakness.

Wondered why RedLeg checked in.

Seems if anyone but me posts here, it gets checked.....;}

Still going with Bodemeister.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   7:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#849. To: All (#848)

So what happens when a major retailer hires a CEO away from a personal electronic conglomerate who has no experience in retail? This, as reported by Market Watch: J.C. Penney Co. said on Tuesday that it swung to a first-quarter loss of $163 million, or 75 cents a share, from a profit of $64 million, or 28 cents, a year earlier. Sales fell 20% to $3.15 billion. On an adjusted basis, the company said it lost 25 cents a share. Analysts surveyed by FactSet estimated the Plano, Texas-based company to lose 1 cent a share on sales of $3.45 billion. Comparable store sales tumbled 19%, also missing estimates.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   7:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#850. To: All (#849)

I don;t think JPM's gotten out of their position yet.

But I do think the FedRes is doing all in their power to cover....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   7:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#851. To: All (#850)

The problem with bank runs is that once they start, they don't stop.

Look forward to not hearing a WORD about any bank runs anywhere.

Except for maybe our closest colonies....and there will have to be video....

like say the Brits...

"Machine-guns will for the first time be toted by guards on the London tube. Police special forces, "trained to kill", will wear balaclavas to avoid identification. There are to be naval landing craft roaming the coast off Weymouth and submarines at the ready. The Olympics have become a festival of the global security industry, with a running and jumping contest as a sideshow. No one in government dares call a halt. Nero in his prime could not have squandered so much money on circuses.

O Boy! Walking past Mask wearing Mercs with shoot to kill mentality on the way to Fun& Games....

sounds like Berlin 1936 on steroids....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   7:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#852. To: All (#850)

Silver's $2 away from a 50% retracement and the Conventional Wisdom is that the Bull Market for PM's is STILL intact....;}

And oil.

And cotton....not so much....;}

Mr Margin Calling on Line 1, sir.

Says it's urgent....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   7:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#853. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Now Simulposting TM to me...;}

at

www.the-peoples-forum.com...gi?ArtNum=28539&Disp=1#C1

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   8:29:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#854. To: All (#853)

The MSM should stop harping on Greece, its done. The real story is what will Greece's bust bring about.

Watch MET and PRU now.

They're in the vortex.

finance.yahoo.com/q?s=PRU

finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   8:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#855. To: mcgowanjm (#848)

Still going with Bodemeister.

Lone speed...looks like a good bet. Morning Line odds 8/5 aren't generous though. Best of luck!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-17   10:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#856. To: mcgowanjm (#847)

An interesting world you live in:) However, when I think things are "normal" I just check in here to see what you have to post.

BTW, the weather cooled down quite a bit in Central TX.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-17   15:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#857. To: redleghunter (#856)

It's cooler here in Kentucky. I'm heading to the track for a few races.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-17   15:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#858. To: mcgowanjm (#849)

Add in the silent boycott of Christians against JCP taking on Ellen Degenerate their spokesman.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-17   15:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#859. To: Fred Mertz (#857)

It's cooler here in Kentucky. I'm heading to the track for a few races.

Not a horse racing fan like my brother. When is the next leg of the triple crown?

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-17   15:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#860. To: redleghunter (#859)

The Preakness this Saturday...about 6:30 pm I think. mcgowanjm is picking Bodemeister. At the moment I like the long shot, Cozzetti.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-17   17:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#861. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Who's running the show.

Whoever came up with the term:

'accelerated withdrawals' to describe Spain/Greece Bank Runs....;}

By The Washington Post Published: May 17, 2012 Updated: May 17, 2012 - 12:00 AM » Comments | Post a Comment ATHENS, Greece --

With Greece's future in the euro increasingly in doubt, the troubled nation cobbled together an emergency government on Wednesday and set a date for new elections amid fears that accelerated withdrawals by spooked depositors could escalate into a run on the banks.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   20:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#862. To: redleghunter (#858)

I'm gay....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   20:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#863. To: redleghunter (#858)

And Pagan Gnostic....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   20:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#864. To: All (#863)

And this is Planet Hell.....;}

Thu May 17, 2012 8:03am EDT

(Reuters) - A spreading bank run could hasten Greece's exit from the euro zone but it certainly doesn't have to end that way.

It is far less clear what the impact would be should the wave of withdrawals accelerate in other peripheral states such as Spain or Portugal, which are further from outright revolt over German-led austerity, and which, due to their sheer size, will enjoy a vastly improved negotiating position.

Reuters/Washington Post: Who came up with the Orwellian term:

'accelerated withdrawal' to describe a bank run...LMFAO

He's not dead, little girl, he's just sleeping for a long time.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   20:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#865. To: mcgowanjm (#862)

I'm gay....;}

And Pagan Gnostic....;}

LOL!

I KNEW IT!

some text

We The People  posted on  2012-05-17   20:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#866. To: All (#864)

I would like a complete clear-out of all those politicians still hooked on the lazy, mendacious, and altogether unimaginative habit of saying “Let me be clear (about this)”.

Not only that, as there is obviously no clear blue water between any of the buggers on this issue, I wish to make clear that there is clearly a very strong chance that a clear majority of politicians may fall victim to my let-me-be-clear-seeking sledgehammer, club or truncheon.

Because it’s important to clear up any misunderstanding about just how clear-air-headed these clear-drivelling idiots are going to be if they persist in claiming to be clear when it is abundantly clear that their objective is to be a clear as mud that has had every scintilla of clarity removed from it by a clearance specialist.....;}

-hat4UK

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   20:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#867. To: We The People (#865)

I'm gay....;}

And Pagan Gnostic....;}

LOL!

I KNEW IT!

I haven't been hiding it. I'm not Mad Dog...please.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   20:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#868. To: All (#867)

May 17, 2012 EURO FUTURES: Is Jamie Dimon trying to get his money back?

This from normally reliable Asia-based sources:

JP Morgan is building massive short positions on the Euro throughout Asia. Almost all are timed to around Mid July.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   20:55:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#869. To: A K A Stone (#0)

*

Wall Street Journal:

* Defiant Message From Greece. The head of Greece's radical left party—throwing down a gauntlet that could increase tensions between Greece and its frustrated European creditors—said he sees little chance Europe will cut off funding to the country but that if it does,

Athens will stop paying its debts.

A financial collapse in Greece would drag down the rest of the euro zone, said Alexis Tsipras, the 37-year-old head of the Coalition of the Radical Left, known as Syriza, and potentially the country's next prime minister.

Instead, he said, Europe must consider a more growth-oriented (MY EDIT-Impossible;) policy to arrest Greece's spiraling recession.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-18   9:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#870. To: All (#869)

The Smoking Gun:

the 3m EUR/USD basis swap spread

&

JPM

They track each other exactly....;}

http://www.barchart.com/chart.ph...st*l*=technical&template=

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/d...2/05-2/20120518_basis.png

With the the 3m EUR/USD basis swap spread The Precursor.

Meaning that that JPMorgan should drop to >< $31.50

Roughly another $2.50 drop from here and That's if the 3m EUR/USD basis swap spread doesn't get worse....meaning that Europe has all the $'s it needs/wants &/or it has more collateral good EuroLoans it can swap into dollars.

JP Morgan is hoping all tha..the above is good.....;}

Please Dear God

Let us continue

to do the Lord's Work

Just as you are Letting

GoldmanSachs

Love is All

Jamie Dimon

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-18   9:43:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#871. To: All (#870)

J P Morgan Chase & Co (JPM) 33.50-0.43 (-1.27%) 9:39A EST (NYSE) -

About $2 more to the downside.

JPM should now be considered a proxy for the

Federal Reserve.

Working with the Rothschilds to do God's Great Works dontcha know.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-18   9:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#872. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Compare the Spain IBEX Market with World Shipping prices

represented by the Baltic Dry Index:

IMG[investmenttools.com/f.../bdi_baltic_dry_index.htm

Like a matched pair of horses. Those two also show the blatant manipulation by the USSA of our own markets.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-18   10:09:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#873. To: mcgowanjm (#863)

And Pagan Gnostic....;}

Don't tell me, you are also Jesuit educated:) LOL!!!

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-18   10:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#874. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.declineoftheempire.co...-of-ecosystem-change.html

So it doesn't matter whether policymakers know about this extinction disaster or don't know about it. This study, like every other similar study in this and other research areas, will be ignored by policymakers. Yes, it will be cited by researchers doing future studies along these lines, which will also be ignored by policymakers.

This science is serious stuff, and that's why I'm reporting it, but I'm sorry—when people start talking about making policymakers aware of the problem in the expectation that something will actually be done about it, I can't take that seriously at all.

Have a nice weekend."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-19   9:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#875. To: All (#874)

#24. To: All (#1)

J P Morgan Chase & Co (JPM) 33.64-0.29 (-0.85%) 9:44A EST (NYSE) -

About $2 more to the downside.

IF the EUR/USD Swap is holding....;}

JPM should now be considered a proxy for the Federal Reserve and the Rothschilds for all those thinking the 'R's are running the show....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-18 10:02:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #25. To: All (#0)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-19   9:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#876. To: All (#875)

FaceBook EPIC FAIL

Morgan Stanley will need to Re IPO the Stock again Monday as ALL of the shares have been returned to same.

But this time Naked Short Selling will be in play....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-19 9:02:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #26. To: All (#25)

But Thank God we won't be hearing anything from now on but Facebook turning into a Dumpster Fire....;}

"But most stocks are tremendously overvalued at this point.

Yes, Facebook has 900 million users and it made about a profit of about a billion dollars last year.

But that does not add up to an 81 billion dollar company.

Not even close."

Enron comes to mind.

theeconomiccollapseblog.c...t-great-wall-street-party

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-19 9:05:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #27. To: mcgowanjm (#25)

And when the shares started to fall towards the offering price, it seems the bankers worked like mad to try to "support the deal." In other words, the investment bankers -- who have an agreement to make a market in the stock -- likely began buying shares themselves to keep it afloat.

And it makes sense. The bankers don't want to see it close below the offering price. The stock closed at $38.27 -- below where it opened, and just above the offering price. For the bankers, this was not casual Friday.

I heard FB stock had to be shored-up to stop it from falling further.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3...ter-the-hype-a-ho-hummer/

Forget the 1%. The Rise and Rise of the Super-Rich (the top 0.1%)

Robin posted on 2012-05-19 9:06:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #28. To: All (#26)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-19   9:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#877. To: mcgowanjm, war (#874)

Loss of biodiversity appears to impact ecosystems as much as climate change, pollution and other major forms of environmental stress, according to a new study from an international research team...

“Loss of biological diversity due to species extinctions is going to have major impacts on our planet, and we better prepare ourselves to deal with them,”

Shouldn't new species just evolve? Everyone evolved from nothing. So from your position you must argue that it is possible for all extinct creatures to re evolve at some point in time.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-19   9:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#878. To: A K A Stone (#877)

Shouldn't new species just evolve?

They do. Constantly.

Deer on isolated islands get smaller within generations.

People in crowded ghettoes the same.

The problem is the evolution can't occur as fast as the ecosystem is changing.

And/or niches are wiped out by say a Brazilian iron ore Corp.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-19   9:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#879. To: A K A Stone (#877)

Everyone evolved from nothing.

UMMMMMmmmmm...no.

Rocks, elements, chemicals, information, energy...but not nothing.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-19   9:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#880. To: A K A Stone (#877)

So from your position you must argue that it is possible for all extinct creatures to re evolve at some point in time.

So from my position I must argue that it is possible....

O yeah!

Nothing is destroyed or created.

The planet's seen everything before.....

It's just the odds of a Failed experiment like humans making a re appearance are kinda like a group of monkeys typing out War and Peace....eventually.

Probably raccoons/cats/dogs/fish/reptiles.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-19   9:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#881. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#38. To: All (#37)

"I waste no time rebutting creationists or alchemists, either. Monkton’s blather is garbage, not science, and not worthy of my comment – and no more worthy of space than witchcraft or voodoo on this site either."

Other comments that followed protesting his fatuous drivel became so unruly that the thread was closed by the editor. It caused me to think about the idiocy of the perpetual debate between climate activists and deniers, and compare it to all the palaver and bombast over religion. Does anybody any longer debate Thor's existence - or that of the many deities of ancient Egypt, or Rome? Surely there have been a greater number of gods invented than all the myriad tribes which have existed throughout human history...and no doubt the adherents of those hundreds, maybe thousands of obsolete religions believed just as fervently in the omnipotence of their gods as Christians, Muslims, and Jews do today.

Doesn't that mere fact make it beyond obvious that belief in gods is utterly specious, and invented by humans for their own purposes (usually nefarious)? Frankly, it amazes me that otherwise intelligent, educated contemporaries can profess a belief in any sort of god when it's so abundantly clear that people just make that s**t up."

witsendnj.blogspot.com/2012/05/dangerous-illusion.html

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-20 6:59:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #39. To: All (#38)

"The natural world is far too permanently degraded for anything like the number of people now on earth to survive without industrial agriculture – and that is a fragile trail dependent upon stable supplies of fertilizer, pesticides and oil for transport that is going to end suddenly leading to unpredictable social unrest. JMG(John Michael Greer/The Archdruid Report) doesn’t want to hear about that though…or maybe he just wants to sell books.

It seems like this “wrangling” is an example of the usual rift between groups that have surprisingly little overlap – the environmentalist/ecology types, the peak oil types, the overpopulation types and last but not least the climate change types.

I’m leaving out the really fringe conspiracy theorists – you know, contrails, New World Order, and the cultist Mayan prophecy types – and the financial doomers who don’t seem to understand that the economy depends upon the biosphere and the goods and services it provides".

"All the former groups are also divided between those who expect a fast crash and those who are wedded (like JMG) to the notion that it will be gradual and can be prepared for (and even profited from). To me, that underestimates the very real prospects – no, I should say now they are inevitabilities –

that disasters will soon ensue that are simply unsurvivable for the vast majority of humanity and the other species who share this Earth, especially when you factor in the likely response people will have to widespread catastrophes, especially violent weather, food shortages and no power. I’m expecting enormous wildfires engulfing towns and cities, for example, which we’ve already had a taste of. There’s a lot of tinder out there, and hot weather coming"."

witsendnj.blogspot.com/2012/05/dangerous-illusion.html

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-20 7:08:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #40. To: All (#39)

"The warmth is expected south of a line stretching from middle New Jersey to southern Idaho. Only tiny portions of northwestern U.S. and Alaska are predicted to be cooler than average and that's only for June, not the rest of the summer."

"Last May until April was the hottest 12-month period on record for the nation with records going back to 1895. This year so far has seen the hottest March, the third warmest April and the fourth warmest January and February in U.S. weather history. And it was one of the least snowy years on record in the Lower 48. Some people called it the year without winter."

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-20 7:10:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #41. To: All (#40)

In 1938 the Germans decided Czechoslovakia would be a nice addition to the decor and the British and French governments reluctantly agreed: since then the US private- and public sectors have spent (borrowed) over

$55 trillion!

Additional amounts on the order of hundreds of trillions have been pledged. Most of this $55 trillion has been spent (borrowed) during the past thirty years, an increasing part of it to service and retire older debts. Don’t be fooled: the US was born out of British debt and the industrial revolution. Ours is a government for, by and about debt: without it and the associated spending there would be no United States of Anything … only deer, coyotes and ‘poor people’.

www.economic-undertow.com...h-of-the-thought-leaders/

JPMorgan's Synthetic Debt Derivatives Portfolio is:

$90 Trillion.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-20   7:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#882. To: A K A Stone (#877)

So from your position you must argue that it is possible for all extinct creatures to re evolve at some point in time.

I can backbreed a species, but it would do no good if it's original environment is gone.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-20   7:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#883. To: All (#882)

This escalating US military presence is bound up with the Obama administration’s indispensable role in propping up the regime that took power in June 2009 with the military overthrow of Honduras’s elected president Manuel Zelaya and his forced exile from the country. Washington brokered the deal that led to elections held under the auspices of the coup regime, bringing the right-wing president Porfirio Lobo to power. Those who staged the coup, subsequently carrying out killings, torture and thousands of illegal detentions, have enjoyed complete impunity, while wholesale attacks on democratic and social rights continue unabated.

Since Lobo took office, 23 Honduran journalists have been murdered, the latest being Alfredo Villatoro, the news director for HRN, one of the country’s principal radio stations, whose body was found one week after he was kidnapped on May 9. His was the second murder of a journalist just in the last 11 days. The wave of violence unleashed against peasants, workers, political activists and human rights advocates after the coup has also continued.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-20   9:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#884. To: All (#883)

2 NATO Troops Killed in Afghanistan Rocket Attack VOA News

May 18, 2012 - NATO says a rocket attack in eastern Afghanistan has killed two of its service members.Local coalition officials say six other NATO troops were slightly wounded in Friday in the Nari district of Kunar province. So far this year, at least 154 coalition service members have been killed in Afghanistan....

9 US invaders killed, 8 injured in attack on enemy base; 12 tanks destroyed Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Saturday, 27 Jamadil Akhir 1433 Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:54

KUNAR, May 19 – Early on Friday, Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate conducted an intense onslaught on invaders’ military base in Nari district of Afghanistan’s Kunar province, a Mujahideen’s official said on Friday, adding that Mujahideen used rockets, missiles and heavy machine guns taking the base under attack for about an hour setting the base facility on fire and killing more than 9 invaders as well as wounding another 8, whereas 12 of enemy’s tank caught fire and burned down.

Witnesses to the scene saw flame rising from the base and the ambulance helicopters landing at the site to evacuate the dead and wounded from the area.

US terrorists base attacked with heavy arms fire Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 28 Jamadil Akhir 1433 Sunday, 20 May 2012 10:40

KUNAR, May 20 – Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate attacked the invaders’ military base in Ghazi Abad, Knur province on Sunday morning, whereas no losses of life and injury have been confirmed yet.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-20   9:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#885. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Once listed, all private and public projects that could potentially contribute to a "taking" of the HS species should be immediately halted and reviewed. The critical habitat of the HS species must also be preserved by identifying and protecting "all lands, water and air necessary to recover the endangered species". Given the urgency of this extinction threat to HS - a significant portion of its range could potentially be decimated or wiped out within 50 years - the FWS and other associated federal agencies must act quickly to list the species as endangered and take the necessary measures to preserve it.

Thank you for your consideration,

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-22   22:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#886. To: All (#885)

Human - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumanCached - Similar

The species binomial Homo sapiens was coined by Carl Linnaeus in his 18th ... "Modern humans" are defined as the Homo sapiens species, of which the only ... Human evolution - Timeline of human evolution - Homo sapiens idaltu - Homo

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-22   22:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#887. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Post Tue May 22, 2012 9:38 pm by mcgowanjm Someone is lying as I type this.

You pick 'Em.... :twisted:

16 US-NATO invaders killed, 13 injured in Khost battle Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Tuesday, 01 Rajab 1433 Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:51

KHOST, May 22 – A report says that on Monday morning, US helicopters landed at Gir, an area on the outskirsts of Musahi district, Kabul province and a large number of the invading troops disembarked in an attempt of raid the Mujahideen based in the area but the enemies fell into Mujahideen’s previously laid ambush in which as many as 60 Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate were lying in ambush which unleashed a daylong fighting, ending up killing at least 16 US-NATO invaders and wounded 13 more who were evacuated by the ambulance helicopters.

One of the Mujahids was martyred and two more wounded in the resulting firing during the firefight.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-22   22:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#888. To: mcgowanjm (#887)

I can't find that news item on google...;^)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-22   22:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#889. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#63. To: All (#62) (Edited)

" In Island, Aldous Huxley wrote: “Armaments, universal debt, and planned obsolescence - those are the three pillars of Western prosperity. If war, waste, and moneylenders were abolished, you'd collapse. And while you people are overconsuming the rest of the world sinks more and more deeply into chronic disaster.”

So, I invite you to read a chilling undercover accounting that imparts a visceral impression of what it's like to be a wage-slave in modern America, at Mother Jones. It's a wonderful companion to pair with this brief but pointed TED talk, which has been censored. The transcript is here. There's been a lot of discussion about why TED refused to post this talk on their site. Their curator, Anderson, who has scrambled for plausible explanations offered this one in an email:

"...But even if the talk was rated a home run, we couldn't release it, because it would be unquestionably regarded as out and out political. We're in the middle of an election year in the US. Your argument comes down firmly on the side of one party. And you even reference that at the start of the talk. TED is nonpartisan and is fighting a constant battle with TEDx organizers to respect that principle...."

-Wit's End.

BTW...Wit's doesn't get that billionaires support TED and TED will not bite the hand that feeds them....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-23 7:57:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #64. To: All (#63)

but they also committed numerous crimes by stealing his hives and equipment and destroying pertinent evidence before a hearing, which Ingram believes may have ultimately been rooted in a deliberate conspiracy by the state to hide the truth about Roundup, and subsequently steal his most vibrant bees. IDofA appears to have targeted Ingram for his research linking Roundup to CCD

Of particular interest was Ingram’s extensive research on Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide, which began several years ago when hundreds of Ingram’s hives had died. He later determined that Roundup sprayings near his property were to blame, which prompted him to actively research the subject and closely monitor his hives in conjunction with this research from that point onward.

What he gathered, and subsequently taught to others, was concrete evidence that Roundup kills bees. He also used this information and his many years of experience to develop and refine ways of growing strong, chemical-free bees in spite of Roundup sprayings, a move that apparently upset IDofA, which operates primarily to serve the interests of chemical companies rather than the interests of the people.

Be sure to read the full Prairie Advocate story about Terry Ingram, which includes a video interview, here: http://www.pacc-news.com/5-2-12/heart_ingram5_2_12.html

Sources for this article include:

www.pacc-news.com/5-2-12/heart_ingram5_2_12.html

www.agr.state.il.us/programs/bees/inspectors.html

www.naturalnews.com

www.naturalnews.com/Roundup.html

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-23 8:00:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #65. To: All (#64)

H-P will post fiscal second-quarter results following media reports that the company was going to eliminate 25,000 to 30,000 jobs, or up to 10% of its workforce. The Palo Alto, Calif.-based company will present both its results and restructuring plan after the closing bell, the source told MarketWatch.

The rich don't create jobs.

They cut them.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-23 8:01:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #66. To: mcgowanjm (#65)

H-P will post fiscal second-quarter results following media reports that the company was going to eliminate 25,000 to 30,000 jobs, or up to 10% of its workforce. The Palo Alto, Calif.-based company will present both its results and restructuring plan after the closing bell, the source told MarketWatch.

The rich don't create jobs.

They cut them.

The 1% is interested in Revenue. And when the entire world is your labor pool, you don't necessarily create jobs HERE. This is very simple, and was described years ago as The Race To The Bottom.

Hewlett-Packard to axe up to 30,000 jobs (Remember Meg Whitman?) Score: 97 Post Date: 2012-05-18 10:02:55 by Robin 0 Comments Computer and software company expected to cut 8% of workforce as consumers ditch bulky PCs in favour of tablets Rupert Neate guardian.co.uk, Friday 18 May 2012 04.47 EDT May 2012 04.47 EDT HP chief executive Meg Whitman is set to announce a restructuring plan next week. Photograph: ChinaFotoPress via Getty Images ...

Robin posted on 2012-05-23 8:07:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #67. To: Robin (#66)

No one's creating jobs anywhere.

China's collapsing.

Watch for the 'migration' reports of 10's of millions moving back into the hinterland.

To only discover that the Hinterland has been ecocided.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-23   8:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#890. To: Fred Mertz (#888)

There's alot of news you can't find now.

http://www.shahamat-english.com/

During those two terrible years between Kerry’s statement and the end of US combat operations, American soldiers stationed in Vietnam knew that the war was lost, and knew they were there for no reason other than keeping President Nixon from looking like he had lost a war, particularly as he faced re-election during the campaign year of 1972. There was, understandably, massive resort to drugs, including marijuana, opium, heroin, LSD and others, as well as alcohol. There was the fragging of commanding officers who were too aggressive about sending their troops into danger. There was insubordination and insurrection and there was desertion.

Now consider the situation in Afghanistan. Once again a war has been lost by the US, this time to forces far weaker and more poorly organized than the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese army. Once again American troops are being asked to keep fighting for a mistake -- this time the 2001 fantasy of the Bush/Cheney administration that it could make a client state out of Afghanistan, a mistake that President Obama doubled down on after taking over the White House, when he called Afghanistan the "good war" and committed another 30,000 troops there, plus ordering up an aggressive kill campaign of night raids, assassinations and the heavy use of pilotless armed drone aircraft.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-23   8:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#891. To: Fred Mertz (#888) (Edited)

I can't find that news item on google...;^)

Betcha don't see much about this one either.

JPMorgan and the Afghans are mirror images of each other.

When Jamie Dimon helicopters off the JP Morgan roof... Wall St collpases.

www.independent.co.uk/new...d-exceed-7bn-7771347.html

Double trouble at JP Morgan: trader's losses could exceed $7bn US bank has cancelled its plan for a share buyback in the wake of the growing crisis

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-23   8:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#892. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Spanish banks are in the redline, the regional governments are past the point of peril and the Federal government has neither the capital nor the ability to raise the amount of money that is required. In the greatest of Spanish traditions the Prime Minister is engaged in a fight to the death as he tells all who will listen that it is nothing but windmills."

-mark grant

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-23   9:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#893. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#70. To: All (#0)

the right wing hate machine.

we are willing to update the offending post if George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina makes a public apology to Sandra Fluke, and not one of those bullshit, “I apologize if you were offended because I called you a under-rock-dwelling dick sucking cunt” kind of apologies. No, that will not do.

The Downward Spiral: The Internet's Awesome Power To Humiliate billhicksisdead.blogspot....esome-power-to-humiliat...

45 minutes ago – I am the george tierney that made the comments to sandra fluke, not to you..take it off google. ... we are willing to update the offending post if George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina makes a public apology to Sandra Fluke, and not one of those bullshit, “I apologize if you were offended because I called ...

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3 days ago – And here is Sandra Fluke's response to George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina's aforementioned Magic with George Tierney of ...

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-24 7:55:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #71. To: All (#70)

Update5/22: The Saga continues)

Update on the update 5/22: The final episode. Or is it…?

Hi. I’m back and, no, I didn’t bring presents.

So where were we?

Oh yes. Recently (May 8th to be exact) I did a post on potty-mouthed golf caddy George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina who, for some reason, took offense when Sandra Fluke went on Twitter and voiced her support for a bill that would protect the rights of working women when they get pregnant.

Let’s relive The Magic That Is George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina When He Talks To The Ladies, shall we? :

LMAO

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2 days ago – TBogg has a post up over at Firedoglake that is balls-to-the-wall hilarious. You see, George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina doesn't quite ...

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-24   7:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#894. To: mcgowanjm (#893)

Fluke is a slut and a piece of dog shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-24   8:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#895. To: A K A Stone (#0)

May 23, 2012

Just as most American mistakenly believe their country has the highest living standard in the world, they also swear that the U.S. is the ultimate in democracy. They also realize that the Golden Rule applies, here: those who have the gold, rule. But the contradiction does not phase them. And, largely because Americans cling to the myth of democracy rather than face the fact of plutocracy, "we know for certain that we will end up with a corporatist president who will keep our country and the world in a perpetual state of war."

Most Americans are convinced, mistakenly, that they live in a democratic nation."

Margaret Kimberley's Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR, and is widely reprinted elsewhere. She maintains a frequently updated blog as well as at

freedomrider.blogspot.com. Ms.

Kimberley lives in New York City, and can be reached via e-Mail at

Margaret.Kimberley(at)BlackAgendaReport.com.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-24   8:46:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#896. To: A K A Stone (#894)

LMFAO, A K A....;}

#893. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#70. To: All (#0)

the right wing hate machine.

we are willing to update the offending post if George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina makes a public apology to Sandra Fluke, and not one of those bullshit, “I apologize if you were offended because I called you a under-rock-dwelling dick sucking cunt” kind of apologies. No, that will not do.

The Downward Spiral: The Internet's Awesome Power To Humiliate billhicksisdead.blogspot....esome-power-to-humiliat...

45 minutes ago – I am the george tierney that made the comments to sandra fluke, not to you..take it off google......

WWJD....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-24   9:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#897. To: All (#896)

Thursday, May 24, 2012 "JPMorgan’s Senior Officers’ Addiction to Gambling on Derivatives" by William K. Black:

"Big wins from gambling in financial derivatives can only come from enormous, extremely risky gambles. A bank that makes enormous, extremely risky gambles is a bank that desperately needs to have its senior management team removed – immediately – and that is true regardless of how those bets turn out in any particular year. There is no conceivable social purpose to providing the explicit federal subsidy of deposit insurance and the (much larger) implicit federal subsidy of “too big to fail” that all SDIs enjoy to a bank so that it can take massive gambles on financial derivatives.

The Jamie Dimons of the world know that if they win the gambles they will be made immensely wealthy and that when they lose the gambles massively the federal government will bail them out.

Every gamble a federally insured bank (or an implicitly guaranteed SDI) takes is a gamble with government money. Bank leverage is always extreme in the modern era; it vastly exceeds the reported (and often inflated) capital. The government is the true creditor through its explicit and implicit guarantees of the bank’s creditors."

The Rich are job Creators.

Well, except if you're Meg Whitman and HP.....Lulz....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-24   9:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#898. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

You didn't know me back in 2005.

Had some hellacious knock down drag outs with some Top 1%er's who were adamant that New Orleans would recover and be better than ever......

Told ya New Orleans was dead.

Katrina and the MS River Flood and the USbpEcocide.

That'll do it everytime.

New Orleans May Soon Become First Major City Without A Daily Newspaper

The New Orleans Times-Picayune is facing massive budget cuts, including "wholesale layoffs" and a reduction in the publishing schedule that would leave the city without a daily print newspaper. The report from David Carr of The New York Times says that the paper's owner, Newhouse Newspapers, will likely cut the publishing days to two or three a week and replace or let go many of its top editors. According to the website Best of New Orleans, reporters who do stay will face "sharp salary cuts" and be expected to post most of their content online at the paper's website, Nola.com.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   6:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#899. To: mcgowanjm (#898)

Top 1%er's

Were you calling them 1 percenters back then?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-25   7:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#900. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Why World Markets have 'rallied' in the Last 3 Days.....;}

Germany has agreed to set up an EU FDIC to stop PIIGS Bank runs....unconstitutional....;}

The USSA has agreed to backstop JP Morgan's $90 Trillion Synthetic Debt Derivatives....;}

O, and the Grexit won't be so bad....;}

All False....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   8:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#901. To: A K A Stone (#899)

Were you calling them 1 percenters back then?

Ever since I've been here.

Pre OWSER movement, I was calling the Bottom 99%, the Bottom 90%....

Mainly because after 90%, you start getting into Chaos Theory numbers.....on the way to 100% which you never reach....;}

So saying the Top 1%, when really the fucker's so skewed that you can ID the Top 10 000 from their IRS forms (the reason IRS does NOT break them out.....

is Really working with Atomic Numbers.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   8:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#902. To: A K A Stone, All (#899)

Top 1%er's

Were you calling them 1 percenters back then?

Feel free, Stone.....and thanx for asking.

;}

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   8:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#903. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#91. To: Robin, All (#90)

And if you want the actual Transmission Belt of the Political Machine and how the Plutarchy has captured DC....

"Speaking fee money isn’t just money, it is easy money. In one appearance, for one hour, Clinton can make $125,000 to $500,000. At an hourly rate, that’s between $250 million to $1 billion annually. It isn’t the case that Clinton is a billionaire, but it is the case that Clinton can, whenever he wants, make money as quickly and as easily as a billionaire. He is awash in cash, and cash is useful. Cash finances his lifestyle. Cash helped backstop his wife’s Presidential campaign when it was on the ropes.

And these speaking fees aren’t the only money Clinton got, it’s just the easiest cash to find because of disclosure laws. Apparently, Clinton’s firm apparently had a paid $100k+ a month consulting relationship with MF Global, and Clinton and Tony Blair have teamed up to help hedge funds raise money. His daughter worked for a giant hedge fund and political ally (Avenue Capital). And Clinton has unusual relationships with billionaires and Dubai-based investors.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are the best at what they do, but they aren’t the only ones who do it. In fact, this is what politics is increasingly about, not elections, but staying in the club.

Erskine Bowles, former White House Chief of Staff, lost two Senate elections. But he’s on the board of Facebook and Morgan Stanley, as well as authoring the highly influential Simpson-Bowles plan to gut Social Security and Medicare. Tom Daschle, who lost a Senate race in 2004, is a millionaire who in large part crafted Obama’s health care plan.

Former Senator Judd Gregg is now at Goldman Sachs. Current Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel made $12 million in between his stint at the Clinton White House which ended in 2000 and his election to Congress in 2002.

Former Congressman Harold Ford, now at Morgan Stanley, is routinely on TV making political claims. Larry Summers is on the board of the high-flying start-up Square.

Meanwhile, Russ Feingold, a Senator who did go after Wall Street, is a professor in the Midwest. Eliot Spitzer is a struggling TV host and writer."

www.nakedcapitalism.com/2...ns-80-million-payday.html

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   9:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#904. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The concept of backwardation is simple. It is when people accept a future promise to deliver only at a discount to physical stuff handed over right now. This could be when there is a shortage, such as wheat before the harvest. Or in the case of gold, backwardation signifies a collapse in trust. But isn’t this the same phenomenon of a tectonic rift between paper dollars and electronic deposits?

In a certain sense, the “money you can fold” behaves like a physical commodity, a present good (I realize I am stretching the concept here more than a bit). The electronic deposit credit is most definitely a future promise. In my gold backwardation thesis, the action begins with the offer on the futures contract falling below the bid on spot gold. The bid-ask spread on spot gold widens, as the offer is relentlessly advancing, pulling the bid behind it.

www.acting-man.com/?p=17058#more-17058

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   10:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#905. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Speaking of things I've been typing about for a while.

That's what your, 'how long have you been using the 'Top 1%' aphorism, reminded me of.

And how none of us Dirty Fuckin Hippies EVER get credit for a God Damn thing.....;}.....even though we get the shite for it 24/7....;}.

And so I was looking at a finite planet with an exploding human footprint article, with oil production flat since 2005, and thought of the desperation of Big Oil.....

which IMMEDIATELY brought to mind the USbpEcocide.

I started to google for bp PO, because everyone knows what PO is.... thanx to us Dirty Fuckin' Hippies....

But GOOGLE does not.

Instead at the very top a 'How can bp help make the world a better place' URL.

And then ANYTHING I typed after bp brought up the same URL.

So I typed this search:

bp fucked

LMFAO

Didn't see that God Damn 'bp Helps' URL this time.

I love the word FUCKED. Has unlimited meanings but EVERYONE knows EXACTLY what you're talkin' about and in what context Every Single Time.

Even a moron software program like google:

http://www.google.com/search?q=b...0e18db6c5&biw=820&bih=451

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2...in-charge-in-gulf-so.html

News for lafitte shrimp 2012 news

Kansas City Star

1. Gulf fishermen reel from seafood troubles

Long Island Press‎ - 1 day ago Thursday 5/24/2012 10:21 AM ... By Associated Press on May 24th, 2012. LAFITTE, La. ... In Lafitte, they said the new shrimp season was off to a slow start.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   8:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#906. To: A K A Stone (#0)

House Bill HR. 4133. www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr4133

Senate Bill: S. 2165 www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s2165

The U.S.-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012 is now under review by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. …

Click for Full Text!

#1. To: Peo111 (#0)

If we survive, the Archives will be full of the following.

Replace the Leading Characters/Nations with Today's USSA/Israel fools....;}

World War I, German Dispatches and the Kaiser's Notes www.gwpda.org/1914/wilnotes.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 7, 1996 – DISPATCHES ANNOTATIONS BY THE KAISER. VIENNA, June 30, 1914. Dispatch from the Ger- man Ambassador at Vienna. (German ...

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mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-26 8:23:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: Peo111 (#0)

Charlie Madison via Arthur Silber...powerofnarrative blog:

"Many Americans, at least those who prefer to think of themselves as intelligent and well-informed, are willing to laugh at their own idiocies.

They are not so ready to admit that their desperately loved self-conception, an idealized view of themselves and their country that they cling to with the neurotic terror of the criminal who fears exposure at any moment,

disguises a fact that has assumed awful, overwhelming clarity to much of the rest of the world: that Americans are among the most vicious killers who have ever lived.

"It’s not war that’s unnatural to us – it’s virtue. As long as valor remains a virtue, we shall have soldiers. So, I preach cowardice. Through cowardice, we shall all be saved.

...

I don’t trust people who make bitter reflections about war. ... It’s always the generals with the bloodiest records who are the first to shout what a Hell it is.

And it’s always the widows who lead the Memorial Day parades … we shall never end wars ... by blaming it on ministers and generals or warmongering imperialists or all the other banal bogies.

It’s the rest of us who build statues to those generals and name boulevards after those ministers; the rest of us who make heroes of our dead and shrines of our battlefields. We wear our widows’ weeds like nuns and perpetuate war by exalting its sacrifices. My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved.

They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   8:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#907. To: All (#905)

I don’t trust people who make bitter reflections about war. ... It’s always the generals with the bloodiest records who are the first to shout what a Hell it is. And it’s always the widows who lead the Memorial Day parades … we shall never end wars ... by blaming it on ministers and generals or warmongering imperialists or all the other banal bogies. It’s the rest of us who build statues to those generals and name boulevards after those ministers; the rest of us who make heroes of our dead and shrines of our battlefields. We wear our widows’ weeds like nuns and perpetuate war by exalting its sacrifices. My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved. They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud.

...

[Y]ou see, now my other brother can’t wait to reach enlistment age. That’ll be in September. May be ministers and generals who blunder us into wars, but the least the rest of us can do is to resist honoring the institution. What has my mother got for pretending bravery was admirable? She’s under constant sedation and terrified she may wake up one morning and find her last son has run off to be brave.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   8:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#908. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

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Post Sat May 26, 2012 8:31 am by mcgowanjm Re: 2012 Annual Energy Outlook (AEO2012) Early Release Refer

Picasso Moon wrote:Jeffrey Brown's recent posting also thoroughly trashed EIA numbers, see separate thread.

And Gail Tverberg doesn't get it. Per EnergyBulletin.

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Figure 3. Crude oil production vs Brent oil spot price, in US $, based on EIA data.

Even with the higher production in 2012, and with growing “other liquids” production (not shown), crude oil production has not been sufficient to bring oil prices back to the $60 a barrel or less range that we were comfortable with prior to 2006.

She also states:

"According to EIA data, crude oil production in 2005 averaged 73.6 million barrels a day. It has grown very little since then. Crude oil production for 2011 averaged 74.0 million barrels a day. In the first two months of 2012, crude oil production was higher yet, averaging 75.6 million barrels a day."

Bakhtiar: "Once you're pumping flat out, reserves are meaningless.'

And of course never an EROEI breakout of these numbers.

So my SocioPoliticalOilWatershed theory (TM;):

That Every oil discovery/production watershed is marked EXACTLY and INSTANTLY by a SocialPolitical Event.

On the way up the parabolic and so on the way down.

And per Orlov, the 'On the Way Down' part of the curve is going to be messy Non Linear.

Could happen at anytime.

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Post Sat May 26, 2012 8:40 am by mcgowanjm Re: 2012 Annual Energy Outlook (AEO2012) Early Release Refer I'm thinking of revising my reversion price to $22 the BBL, but I'll stick with my present price of

$40 the BBL until I see how the Non Linear break pans out..... :roll: :twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   9:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#909. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And about that Evac of the GOM....;}

Title: The Associated Press: 2 years later, fish sick near BP oil spill site Source: AP Author: CAIN BURDEAU Date: Apr. 19, 2012

Open sores. Parasitic infections. Chewed-up-looking fins. Gashes. Mysterious black streaks. Two years after the drilling-rig explosion that touched off the biggest offshore oil spill in U.S. history, scientists are beginning to suspect that fish in the Gulf of Mexico are suffering the effects of the petroleum.

The evidence is nowhere near conclusive. But if those suspicions prove correct, it could mean that the environmental damage to the Gulf from the BP disaster is still unfolding and the picture isn't as rosy as it might have seemed just a year ago.

And the damage may extend well beyond fish. In the past year, research has emerged showing deep-water coral, seaweed beds, dolphins, mangroves and other species of plants and animals are suffering. [...]

Read the report here.....

So I click on the Hot Link AND.......

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gdkmCejVkHtKL-KDVX4aYymbokdA?docId=217fa037cbd546d9a8d6031df008814c

The Associated Press The article requested is no longer available.

Just...can't...quite...find....the....room.....to....cache....LMFAO

When Truth is Replaced by Silence.

No wonder so many think the economy is recovering.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   9:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#910. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#3. To: Robin (#2)

We do not want to.

Nothing is harder than to make someone understand who is paid not to understand.

We USans live in the belly of the beast.

LMFAO with the following find.

More Bad News: Gulf Oil Slick Is Vanishing Quickly : Environment ... peakoil.com/.../more-bad-...shing-quickly-t5...Cached

15 posts - 5 authors - Jul 29, 2010 Che Guevara-"I envy you, NorteAmericanos, for you live within the belly of the Beast." There I fixed it. And btw, so you're not surprised, the ...

I know that's my post w/o even looking it up....;} BTW, they unceremoniously kicked me out shortly after....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   9:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#911. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Exactly what Biden and the USSAMedia did yesterday:

" If we were genuinely concerned with honoring those who have died in war, we would make it our sacred task to eradicate the causes of war.

Of course, many Americans -- including most notably our leading politicians -- couldn't care less about truly honoring those whose guts have been ripped out, whose limbs have been bloodily and painfully mutilated, whose minds have been destroyed. For the state and its enablers, the war dead are props used to purify and sanctify the ongoing and future campaigns of slaughter, in an endless procession of slaughters throughout history.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   10:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#912. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Re: PEAK OIL, TOTAL COLLAPSE, AND THE ROAD TO THE OLDUVAI

Post Sat May 26, 2012 9:43 am by mcgowanjm

Why aren't we celebrating the fact that oil has collapsed from $107 to $90?

And that America is using 4 MMBD less than in 2007?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   10:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#913. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.uruknet.de/?p=m88348&hd=&size=1&l=e

That Tweet reads: 'The Russian bikers detained in Iraq are at the Embassy of the Russian Federation [in Baghdad]. Motorcylces have not been returned yet. Thanks to everyone who helped.' The Moscow Times notes, "[Russian President Vladimir] Putin has been forging good relations with the biker community in the past two years, riding motorcycles and attending biker events." RIA Novosti adds, "The four men will leave for Russia on Saturday morning, the bikers' lawyer Alexander Orlov, also a member of the Moscow-based motorcycle club Rolling Anarchy MCC (RAMCC), told RIA Novosti."

As many are noticing, the US press has ignored the story completely. That may be due to the fact that there's a detail that's inconsistent -- not on-message -- with Barack Obama's current campaign for a second term as US President. Ekaterina Saviba (Gazeta) reports it today:

They came to Iraq on May 17 and were detained by the Iraqi military on May 20. "Our attempt to go towards Baghdad failed because of Yanks in Hummers – they didn't let us in. Our guys decided to go round the American checkpoints and pass north of them," report motorcyclists' friends on the Russian motorcycling forum Ruriders.ru. "They managed to ride several dozen kilometers a day, while having long heartfelt conversations with local authorities, all while the outside temperature was 42 Celsius."

Again, that was also in yesterday's reports. The Russian bikers, en route to Baghdad, were unable to enter the city and had to go around due to Americans blocking them in Hummers, due to American checkpoints. The 20th was Sunday and the US may have activated some branch still in Iraq (there are many) to put up checkpoints in advance of the meet-up in Baghdad. They may have pulled the units stationed outside of Iraq -- in Kuwait for example -- back in to set up those checkpoints.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   10:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#914. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#122. To: lucysmom (#116)

Rush Limbaugh, speaking for the 1%, said they deserved the biggest tax cut because they paid the most taxes.

OK, I've got a better idea.

Which is how the 'income tax' amendment, which was illegally ratified btw, even got as far as it did:

How about no one but the Top 1% PAY income tax....;}

And another btw:

The Top 1% only got what they have per the Social Contract which the Top 1% unilaterally tore up with Reaganomics.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-27 9:06:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #123. To: Robin (#117)

The quote in italics is from here:

peakoil.com/consumption/c...elers-this-memorial-day/..

Which is AP's Annual Memorial Day Gas Prices Speel.

I've juxtaposed it with the Cracked.com article per billhicksisdead.blogspot to show just how out of touch the Top <1% are with the Bottom 99%.....;}

" But for the overwhelming majority of the globe, it's just gibberish horseshit spraying from the mouth of an ultra-privileged, out of touch alien. You can't give advice based on a lifestyle that's only shared by a single-digit percentage of the globe and expect to be taken seriously.

"But what about the things that don't take a huge bank account to do, like dieting tips and workout regimens?" asks all of Hollywood in unison. "Surely we could have something valuable to say there."

#4. They Literally Pay People to Live Their Lives for Them

#3. Their Day-to-Day Life Bears No Resemblance to Yours

#2. They Are Experts at Appearing Smarter Than They Actually Are

#1. They Have Nobody to Tell Them They're Wrong It's just so sad that so many people out there are such blind followers

A drop in gas prices encouraged Americans to spend more at restaurants and bars in April. And that trend could continue over the holiday.

MY EDIT: There's not one factoid in the PO article explaining just how exactly 'Americans' (AP's words for us dumb schmucks;}

Pump prices are down 27 cents since their peak in early April, to $3.67 a gallon, where they’re likely to stay this weekend, predicts Tom Kloza, the chief oil analyst at the Oil Price Information Service. That’s 12 cents cheaper than last year. Over the weekend, U.S. drivers will burn about 1.2 billion gallons of gasoline – and spend $144 million less on gas than last year

peakoil.com/consumption/c...elers-this-memorial-day/..

PERFECT lead in:

"Robin wrote:

To: lucysmom

And those who would benefit the most from the revenue generated by those increased taxes on the 1%: in improved public transportation, healthcare, govt jobs programs and infrastructure projects, education; are cheering for the 1% that they will NEVER be a part of. They won't even be hired to wash the toilets of the 1%.

The 1% must get a slight chuckle out of it, in the odd moments when they might bother to think about these poor, stupid idiots. SUCKERS!!!!

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-27 9:09:40 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-27   9:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#915. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#124. To: All (#0)

This will not be your usual Memorial Day Week.....;}

"This isn’t, contra Lagarde about “bad Greeks”, while it is true that Greece should never have been let in to the Euro, well, everyone knew that. Including the countries that let Greece in.

4) Greece is going to have get hardcore and creative about creating a new economy. Since the monetary authorities intend to starve them and deprive them of oil, they must retaliate hard. Greece has a number of options, and this is what Greece should do You don’t play nice with people who are trying to cause a famine in your country.

* Greece has a large fleet. Use it to strip mine the Mediterranean of all resources possible. Yes, the Med is a fragile ecosystem. If the other Euros don’t like it, they can not punish Greece, otherwise Greece will have to feed itself. The Euros could send fleets, but as the British-Iceland fishing war proved, that’s prohibitively expensive.

* Start gun-running and other black market activities up. European gun-running currently goes through Albania. Greece has much better ports. If the Euros don’t like it, they can militarize Greece’s borders at a cost much higher than feeding the Greeks.

* Become a full on black-hole for banking. If anyone wants to store money in Greece, they can. No questions asked, no forms needed.

* Make deals with other “pariah” and semi-pariah nations. Start with Iran and Russia for oil (Iran will be happy to give oil in exchange for black market help). Make a deal with various 2nd world nations for food, start with Argentina, they have no reason to love the IMF or the European Union, which promised to “punish” them for nationalizing oil in Argentina. In exchange Greece can offer use of their fleet, for cheap, and port rights for the Russian navy. They’ve wanted a true warm water port for some time. Offer them a nice island in the Med with a 30 year lease.

* Hold on for a couple years. Odds are that soon enough Ireland, Spain, Portugal and maybe others will leave the Euro. They won’t be in any mood to screw Greece for their ex-Euro masters. Heck, odds are 50/50 that there won’t be a Euro zone at all in 3 years, since Germany wants to screw everyone, including France.

* Nationalize basically every industry. It’s unfortunate, but it’s going to be necessary. Hundreds of billions of dollars have fled Greece in the past 3 years, in fact that was one of the main reasons for dragging out the “bailouts” (really, bailouts of German banks), to let the money flee. All Greek assets are going to be frozen overseas, so the Greeks will need to work with what they have.

* No more money goes out of the country. Slap on currency controls, to make sure what money is there doesn’t leave (this is aimed at Greece’s rich). If any banker or anyone else circumvents them, throw them in jail, the sentence should be life, generous, since they are committing treason.

* Seriously change the tax system, and insist on really taxing the rich. Go to heavily progressive taxation, reduce the burden on the poor (a large number of people now), this will buy support. * A food rationing system, with cards and delivery to every person in the country will be necessary. It won’t be fun, but combined with the above, you can make sure that no one starves.

Greece has been under siege for years now, and traitors within its own country (its politicians) have betrayed it.

http://www.ianwelsh.net/lets-talk-turkey-about-greece/

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-27   10:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#916. To: mcgowanjm (#915)

* Become a full on black-hole for banking. If anyone wants to store money in Greece, they can. No questions asked, no forms needed.

Good one.

But seriously. Greece did this to themselves.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-27   10:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#917. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#127. To: All (#126) (Edited)

The abolition of historical memory is one of the worst aspects of modernity: it is certainly the most depressing. For the modern man, it’s an effort to recall what happened last week, never mind the last century. The news cycle spins madly and ever-faster, and the result is that we are lost in the blur of Now: for all intents and purposes, we are a people without a history, who recall past events – if we remember them at all – as one would summon a vague and confusing dream.

That's from Justion Raimondo at

antiwar.com

But it could be from any of several writers this AM....;}

As a Historian I can lovingly tell you that the first Rule of History is this:

Those that forget history are doomed to repeat it.

But I take Robin's optimistic bent to say this:

Humans go no where until History is learned. And as humans forget they become like dogs chasing there own tails....;}

Which is why I love History.

Rule 2:

Humans will learn History. It's up to Humans on how you do it. But you will learn it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#918. To: A K A Stone (#916)

Good one.

But seriously. Greece did this to themselves.

Sure. And from that, every man has his/her own flag, own currency.

We all do to ourselves. Each one in our own way.

The individual is the ultimate minority.

That said, we can go back to the macro:

The Euro was dreamed up to bind Germany. So that France would be able to milk Europe.

When France has to go thru the very same regimen as Greece then All of a Sudden it will be anyone but France's fault.

Greece has been ravaged as much or more than any nation in the past 100 years.

And the Top .01% of Greece has made very bad onerous loans at the expense of the Bottom 99% of Greece.

But the Greeks fought the Nazi's to a standstill.

They'll do the same with the French/Germans now....;}

hat4UK lays it out.

You have a choice between food, guns, taxes.

Which will you pay for first.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#919. To: mcgowanjm (#917)

we are a people without a history, who recall past events – if we remember them at all – as one would summon a vague and confusing dream.

That's from Justion Raimondo at

Oh, bullshit. I can tell you where I was when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and I can tell you what my father told me about WWI and what my grandfather told me about the Spanish American War and I can tell you how a very great great uncle died in the French and Indian War...

...and, I can tell you what I know about Ancient Greece and the Roman Empire and I am not a history major.

And Justin from 'anti-war' is the one dreaming.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-28   9:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#920. To: harrowup (#919)

Oh, bullshit. I can tell you where I was when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor

So the British/Netherlands Embassy radioed/telegraphed that the Japanese Fleet had left Yokohama Bay.

The US had broken both the diplomatic and Japanese Naval Code months before.

Author William Peter Grasso on alternate publishing and alternate ... www.examiner.com/.../auth...n-alternate-publ...Cached

Jan 8, 2012 – The book's title comes from the actual words of the coded signal authorizing the attack on Pearl Harbor – East Wind Rain -- which was ...

The USS Lexington sailed from Pearl Harbor less than 2 weeks before the attack.

Against the repeated calls from the Pearl Harbor Commander for more air cover.

Not one Carrier was anywhere near Pearl on December 7.

Not one modern warship.

And on and on.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#921. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Military-Industrial Complex Porn: Congress To Spend More On Tanks Than The Pentagon Wants

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   7:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#922. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Many thanx, Robin

As I know my family, I know that the bush's got their start thru this.

IT ALL rings true, right down to their method of criminalizing/'he's mentally unbalanced' dirt in the face methods.....;}

"While there is no suggestion (bullsite. I'm 'suggesting it, asshole...;}

that Prescott Bush was sympathetic (look up fascvist in the dictionary and see Poppy Bush;}

to the Nazi cause In 1941, Thyssen fled Germany after falling out with Hitler but he was captured in France and detained for the remainder of the war.

(Now THAT's the first time I've heard that. Right there is Everything you need to know. I'd like to know what the disagreement was about. And be a fly on the wall of that discussion.....;}

Erwin May, a treasury attache and officer for the department of investigation in the APC, was assigned to look into UBC's business. The first fact to emerge was that Roland Harriman, Prescott Bush and the other directors didn't actually own their shares in UBC but merely held them on behalf of Bank voor Handel. Strangely, no one seemed to know who owned the Rotterdam-based bank, including UBC's president. Even then it could be argued that BBH was within its rights continuing business relations with the Thyssens until the end of 1941 as the US was still technically neutral until the attack on Pearl Harbor.

(So did Thyssen leave Germany before or after Pearl Harbour?....;}

The trouble started on July 30 1942 when the New York Herald-Tribune ran an article entitled "Hitler's Angel Has $3m in US Bank". UBC's huge gold purchases had raised suspicions that the bank was in fact a "secret nest egg" hidden in New York for Thyssen Jones recommended that the assets be liquidated for the benefit of the government, but instead UBC was maintained intact (!!!!!)

and eventually returned to the American shareholders after the war. (!!!!!)

Some claim that Bush sold his share in UBC after the war for $1.5m - a huge amount of money at the time - but there is no documentary evidence to support this claim. No further action was ever taken nor was the investigation continued,

*****despite the fact UBC was caught red-handed operating a American shell company for the Thyssen family eight months after America had entered the war and that this was the bank that had partly financed Hitler's rise to power. The most tantalising part of the story remains shrouded in mystery:*******

(The Only 'mystery' is why the case was stopped cold.....;}

the connection, if any, between Prescott Bush, Thyssen, Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC) and Auschwitz. "The Consolidated Silesian Steel Company situation has become increasingly complicated, and I have accordingly brought in

"Sullivan and Cromwell"

HUGE law firm implicated in the Truman Doctrine. Still alive and well. Their fingers in more pies than Goldman/Sachs....;},

in order to be sure that our interests are protected," wrote Knight. "After studying the situation Foster Dulles But the ownership of the CSSC between 1939 when the Germans invaded Poland and 1942 when the US government vested UBC and SAC is not clear.

"SAC held coal mines and definitely owned CSSC between 1934 and 1935, but when SAC was vested there was no trace of CSSC. All concrete evidence of its ownership disappears after 1935 and there are only a few traces in 1938 and 1939," says Eva Schweitzer, the journalist and author whose book, America and the Holocaust, is published next month.

::::::

Silesia was quickly made part of the German Reich after the invasion, but while Polish factories were seized by the Nazis, those belonging to the still neutral Americans (and some other nationals) were treated more carefully as Hitler was still hoping to persuade the US to at least sit out the war as a neutral country.

:::::

Schweitzer says American interests were dealt with on a case-by-case basis. The Nazis bought some out, but not others.

Ford Motor Truck Plant was srutinized by the Nazis, but they found that Germany could not make Ford Trucks any faster or better than Ford.....;}

"The Union Banking Corporation was a holding company for the Nazis, for Fritz Thyssen," said Loftus. "At various times, the Bush family has tried to spin it, saying they were owned by a Dutch bank and it wasn't until the Nazis took over Holland that they realised that now the Nazis controlled the apparent company and that is why the Bush supporters claim when the war was over they got their money back.

BULL SHITE

Both the American treasury investigations and the intelligence investigations in Europe completely bely that, it's absolute horseshit. They always knew who the ultimate beneficiaries were."

;}

"There is no one left alive who could be prosecuted but they did get away with it," said Loftus. "As a former federal prosecutor, I would make a case for Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and Averill Harriman [to be prosecuted] for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany." Loftus said Prescott Bush must have been aware of what was happening in Germany at the time.

"My take on him was that he was a not terribly successful in-law who did what Herbert Walker told him to. Walker and Harriman were the two evil geniuses, they didn't care about the Nazis any more than they cared about their

(Sound Familiar? Poppy Bush cries in front of the Fla Leg knowing that he made the wrong son POTUS....8D)

investments with the Bolsheviks." "the essential facts have appeared on the internet and in relatively obscure books but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes". Buchanan suffers from hypermania, a form of manic depression, and when he found himself rebuffed in his initial efforts to interest the media, he responded with a series of threats against the journalists and media outlets that had spurned him. The threats, contained in e-mails, suggested that he would expose the journalists as "traitors to the truth". Unsurprisingly, he soon had difficulty getting his calls returned.

See Fortunate Son author commits suicide for details....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   8:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#923. To: All (#922)

Hello, everyone, and welcome. Today, I would start by telling you of something that happened to me yesterday. I was giving a presentation on energy at a public meeting and several of the people attending were politically minded. During the debate, someone said something like, "You see, professor, I think if you were to be a candidate for the next elections, you would get exactly zero votes".

Let me say that it wasn't intended as an offense. No; it was a statement of fact and it was correct. So, what did I say that made me so completely unelectable? Well, I had said that natural resources are limited, so that we should strive to consume less resources, not more. But, of course, you just can't run for a public office on a platform like that!

cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   9:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#924. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Oil breaks $90.

10 Year Treas at record low 1.67%.

Cotton getting ready to break $.70.

Deflation.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   9:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#925. To: mcgowanjm (#924)

So much for the peak oil propaganda coming from the governments.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-30   9:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#926. To: A K A Stone, Sneaky Pete, All (#925)

So much for the peak oil propaganda coming from the governments.

And this is exactly how off base you are.

This is Exactly how PO plays out.

When are you going to realize that Hyperinflation from Reagan/Greenspan is now Over.

That No one has this Ponzi money.

That Everything over $40 the Barrel is Synthetic Debt Derivative Enron SIV....vaporizing in front of our eyes.

Again....No one can afford to Waste any more oil. Which is how the USSA has 'grown' over the last 100 years.

You got actual FR notes in your wallet. They become more expensive BTD. You got Electronic money? You're going to pay a premium on it until all to soon it won't be accepted as payment.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   9:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#927. To: All (#1)

We're in the Positive Feedback Loop now. The Sixth Extinction.

Only the Soot dropping out of the atmosphere from collapse of Human industry thru wasting Carbon will do the trick.

20 000 years and you won't know we've been here..... :? 8-)

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Post Wed May 30, 2012 9:25 am by mcgowanjm Re: PEAK OIL, TOTAL COLLAPSE, AND THE ROAD TO THE OLDUVAI

Post Wed May 30, 2012 9:25 am by mcgowanjm

What is going on and who is doing it is not in doubt. It is no more in doubt than who was behind the Afghanistan and Iraq incursions or who did 9/11 which set them up in the first place. I can hear the sighs from the Kumbaya crowd. “Please, can't we talk about something else”? Talking about something else is like wishing to be somewhere else, while somewhere else is being wiped out by the ones we are talking about.

It must be nice and convenient for the new age crowd and their solid awareness of advaita. You can walk around in your fantasy landscapes, unified with everything and money in the bank. No one on that circuit talks about these things because then they won't let them on the circuit. No one talks about these things on stage, because they won't let you onstage except, sometimes, some people do. The thing about awakening, is that it forces certain considerations before your eyes.

All the signs indicate some kind of mayhem is on the near horizon and that means in the next few weeks and days. I suppose this all deserves a kind of 'bent out of shape' admiration. They just keep on keeping on, killing stealing and raping household pets. If there is something nasty and infernal that they can get up to, they are already working on it. There's something sexual about it all. It's that kind of sexual excitement, where the passion is ratcheted up so high that something unintended is guaranteed to happen. It could be something like that premature ejaculation thing that makes serial killers a little angrier than they already are.

Human Civilization collapse will stop AGW.

Nothing else.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   10:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#928. To: A K A Stone (#0)

finviz.com/fut_image.ashx...ng&rev=634739720049110000

Mr Margin Calling on Line 1, sir.

He says it's urgent......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   10:54:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#929. To: A K A Stone (#0)

As the markets swirl the toilet, war must begin.

Cause it definitley ain't gonna be our fault.

Oil at $87.90 now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   11:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#930. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#8. To: Robin (#2)

I see an increase in the number of rings in each circus, and a growing number of circuses and circus acts!

IT takes power and lots of it.

Something that they're running out of, with every misuse and abuse of same....;}

Violence is all they've got now. Cause the 'bread&circus' thing is floundering.

As the American Dream folds up it's tent and leaves town.

And still the talking heads on USSAtv just laugh and laugh. You can't look at the 'news' channels w/o seeing the same laughing clowns....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   8:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#931. To: All (#930)

Oil @ $87.60 now as the Top .01% tried all night to rally it.

Especially as Europe opened about 2 AM.

And 10 Yr Treas dipped below 1.6%. Lowest yield ever.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   8:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#932. To: All (#931)

#152. To: All (#151) (Edited)

One must begin by acknowledging reality and accepting it for what it is, regardless of how painful or undesirable its truth. Faith does not always serve human need; it often undermines progress and promotes oppression of the working class, despite its occasional good intentions. Broken systems of power do not promote justice.

Ultimately, we can only begin our respective journeys to true consciousness and thus revolution from wherever are. But we must have the courage to acknowledge where that is. False hope and wishful thinking can prevent us from doing what must be done. It can perpetuate the very inequality we are trying to eradicate. Reality, no matter how disturbing, provides a solid base from which to move forward. Take it for what it is.

Charles Sullivan is a naturalist, an educator, and freelance writer residing in the Ridge and Valley Province of geopolitical West Virginia.

The Hatfields&McCoys was good tv.

Kentucky and West Virginia slugging it out toe to toe.

And what kept going thru my mind was how prolific both families were...

They just never seemed to run out of each other to kill....;}

O, and how the two clan leaders were absent from some of the most critical events....they were sick....just couldn't make it to the event....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   9:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#933. To: All (#932)

The CIA is a very busy place these days....;}

"the media neglects that in 2011 in an educational conference in London the education minister of the puppet regime of Kabul acknowledged that the so called armed opposition is not against the education of boys and girls. Similarly the professional deputy minister of this office told the media that the schools are destroyed by some criminal gangs and not by the Taliban. At the same time we would like to say that on 22nd February in Kashkot area of Khewa district one teacher and 9 students were injured in the indiscriminate shelling of helicopters by the invading forces. But the stooge media have turned a blind eye over all these facts and realities.

he fact is that recently the invading forces have martyred and burnt innocent civilians and children in Zangawat area of Panjwai district and prior to that they have humiliated the bodies of the martyrs. Similarly in Bagram air base they committed the unpardonable act of disgracing the Holy Quran. Now the invaders and their local stooges try to divert the attention of the Afghan nation as well as of the international community from their barbaric deeds and crimes by these kinds of planed issues of infecting the girls.

The Islamic Emirate once again declares that these and likewise dire incidents are carried out by some intelligence agencies including the intelligence agency of the puppet admin of Kabul by the name of national security.

The policy of Mujahedeen is palpable i.e. armed resistance against the invading forces and their supporters till the liberation of the country.

Moreover false allegations of the invaders and their hired media against Mujahedeen are the part of the media war and have no reality.

The Islamic Emirate declares its complete acquittal and says that this kind of criminals will be penalized according to the Islamic Law where ever arrested inside the country.

Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   9:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#934. To: All (#933)

"I think most of my regular readers are aware that I spent last weekend at a peak oil event. There have been plenty of those over the last decade or so, but this one, The Age of Limits, was a bit unusual: it started from from the place where most other peak oil events stop, with the recognition that the decline and fall of industrial civilization is the defining fact of our time.

It’s ironic, to use no stronger term, that this should be the point at which so much discussion of peak oil stops, because it’s also the place where that conversation began some fifteen years ago, at the very dawn of today’s peak oil movement.

Back then, as conversations about the limits to growth were getting started again for the first time since the twilight of the 1970s, most participants in those early discussions seem to have grasped that the industrial world would either rise to the challenge of peak oil and undergo the wrenching process of shortage and reallocation that a successful downshift of energy consumption would demand,

or plow face first into the brick wall of resource limits and crash to ruin. The debates then were over which of these would be chosen. At this point it’s painfully clear which way the decision has gone, but the discourse of peak oil by and large remains the same.

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...g-of-distant-thunder.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   9:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#935. To: All (#934)

#155. To: All (#153) (Edited)

And speaking of bad decisions.

I don't know which is worse.

Not tipping or eating at McDonald's.

Like Bill Gates taking that 60Minutes Reporter to McD's....;}

The Elite are just clueless by definition...they have to be.

Facebook, Inc. (FB) -NasdaqGS

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   9:18:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#936. To: All (#935)

"Thinking back over the weekend, three points of crucial relevance for the project of this blog stand out.

The first and most basic is precisely the number of people who are ready to grapple with the end of industrial civilization: not as an abstract possibility to be shoved off on a conveniently distant future, not as an inkblot pattern on which to project one’s favorite apocalyptic fantasies, not as a bogeyman that can be used to stampede recruits into signing up for the greater glory of some movement or other, but as a simple and inescapable fact that is already shaping our lives.

1)It’s one of the oddities of the tribe to which I belong that it’s hard to give it a simple, straightforward name of that kind, just a clear sense

of the trajectory our age is tracing out against the background of deep time, and it’s one of the less heavily represented tribes at most peak oil events.

What set The Age of Limits apart is that it was specifically for this latter tribe, and the enthusiastic turnout in response to very muted publicity—little more than a few posts on blogs—shows me that the audience for such discussions is a good deal larger than I had any reason to think.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   9:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#937. To: All (#936)

2)"the extent to which people in that tribe—and, I suspect, across a broader spectrum of society as well—are hungry for meaningful discussions of one of the taboo topics of our age, the relation of spirituality to the shape of our future. That hunger came as a surprise to our hosts..."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   9:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#938. To: All (#937) (Edited)

2a) It’s among the major failures of contemporary Western culture that the keepers of its religious traditions have so signally failed to deal with the core issues of our time. There’s a history behind that failure, of course.

3) Something has gone very wrong. That’s the message that’s rumbling like distant thunder through the crawlspaces of the American imagination just now. Something has gone very wrong, and those whose public claim to power is their supposed ability to manage things so that they don’t go wrong—the captains of finance and brokers of political power who move from photo op to press conference to high-level meeting and back again—don’t know how to fix it.

That has had any number of unhelpful consequences, but the one relevant here is that either choice makes it effectively impossible for those who speak for religious institutions to say anything at all about the reality of our nation’s and civilization’s decline."

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...g-of-distant-thunder.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   9:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#939. To: All (#938)

A Minority Religion is a cult.

Religion is a major organizing force in American public life; each of the great shifts in American politics and society have been paralleled, and often preceded, by a corresponding shift in the religious sphere....

thus we will now be experiencing a Religious Shift on a Grand Scale.

The Archdruid Report gets this right....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   9:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#940. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.barchart.com/cache/7d...72c4a87076d72fb0b5a77.png

“In this world, shipmates, sin that pays its way can travel freely, and without a passport; whereas Virtue, if a pauper, is stopped at all frontiers.” -- MOBY DICK, Chapter IX Herman Melville

First, the notion that the trades which caused the losses by JPM were put on in the last six months or so seems to have been widely accepted in the media. But is this really the case?

www.zerohedge.com/contrib...p-morgan-and-london-whale

Whalen gets it...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   10:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#941. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#939)

A Minority Religion is a cult.

Religion is a major organizing force in American public life; each of the great shifts in American politics and society have been paralleled, and often preceded, by a corresponding shift in the religious sphere....

thus we will now be experiencing a Religious Shift on a Grand Scale.

You are correct there is a shift in America (already in Europe) and the results are not so good. We are going the way of all "great" civilizations that lose their way.

I really expected some posts on Bilderberg from you. It is that time of year:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-31   10:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#942. To: redleghunter (#941)

I really expected some posts on Bilderberg from you. It is that time of year:)

Don't know what calendar you're using...Mayan?...;}

but you'll never see a post from me about Bilderbergers or anyone else supposedly in conclave.

Cause it's the Top 400. 50 000 at most around the world.

You can see them by their wealth exposure and their Breeding lines.

both fail with every third gen....Chinese proverb...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   11:42:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#943. To: mcgowanjm, murron, cz82 (#930)

I see an increase in the number of rings in each circus, and a growing number of circuses and circus acts!

IT takes power and lots of it.

Something that they're running out of, with every misuse and abuse of same....;}

Violence is all they've got now. Cause the 'bread&circus' thing is floundering.

All his life he did his best for all And the crown of laughter Hanging low The spotlight in the ring, The choruses that sing The paint and masquerade Was just a show The clown - the clown Happiness around Just a soul lonely in the crowd The clown - the clown His heart is all alone No one wants the tears of a clown The living of the glory and applause The circus tent, The only home he knows The cover-up is bold, The mask becoming cold It's easier to let the eyelids close The clown, ... The final curtain falls for all to see The final score , the circus melody His star that shone so bright, Gave comfort in the night The light that always held him Set him free The clown, ...

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-31   15:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#944. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Thanx Robin, for your remarks yesterday on religion.

I can tell when folks, like you, hit a big MEME (bigger than a paradigm;).

My peeps across the internet hit on the same one. At the same time.

Like the light bulb was invented simultaneously across the globe.

or the plane was invented at the same time.

The Big Ideas are grasped simultaneously/instantly across the globe.

Just so religion & problem solving taxonomies:

"Try to imagine for a moment the likes of Katie Couric, Anderson Cooper or the vacuous Brian Williams going on the air and directly defying the President and the whole American military establishment like that. It is simply not conceivable.

peakwatch.typepad.com/decline_of_the_empire/

"then they probably won’t believe it.

The same is true for peak oil. It’s an abstract study of many interrelated, complex factors which cannot be seen firsthand, and lots of unfamiliar data. Understanding it fully requires spending tens of thousands of hours in taxing, System 2-type thinking. (And having spent tens of thousands of hours on it, I can also tell you that for the most part, it’s deeply unpleasant.) The implications of it conflict immediately and directly with most of our experience, especially for those who aren’t old enough to remember the gasoline shortages of the ’70s. It doesn’t have the same ring as “Drill, baby, drill,” and it doesn’t rhyme. And then, if you’re one of those odd autodidactic birds who’s gone far out of your way to become literate in the subject, you’ll find yourself virtually alone with the knowledge, and most people you know will think you’ve lost your mind, your sense of humor, and your “optimism.” Tribal tendencies

www.smartplanet.com/blog/...ing-our-energy-future/500

"The late, great author and blogger Joe Bageant used to refer to the media as the American Hologram, a term that I have borrowed to employ frequently on this blog because it so perfectly describes what it has become, especially on television. It must be said, however, that this was not always the case. There was a quaint time in America, oh say about 44 years ago, when anchorman Walter Cronkite could effectively spell the doom of yet another American mindless military adventure by uttering the following words on the air: We have been too often disappointed by the optimism of the American leaders, both in Vietnam and Washington, to have faith any longer in the silver linings they find in the darkest clouds.

billhicksisdead.blogspot.com

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   8:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#945. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#181. To: All (#0)

More than 100 million are unemployed in the USSA now.

Wonder how long that Syria thing is gonna keep playing on Happy TalkUSSAtv....;}

"Friday, June 01, 2012 1:28 AM

Hyperbolic Selloff Coming? IMF Discusses Spanish Contingency Plans; Madrid Denies Plans; Hispabonos Dropped From Cabinet Discussion

The latest word of the day is the already approved, then denied, then tabled plan to implement hispabonos was dropped from discussion Friday's cabinet meeting according to La Vangauardia.

In the last three months alone, Draghi has poured €3 trillion into eurozone banks in an effort to keep the day of reckoning at bay. He must have known this was an entire waste of taxpapers’ money from the start, and so as always I’m left wondering whether the guy is just an incurable optimist, or a sociopath more than happy to accept a world in which the only things left are bankers and their head offices. But whatever his motives, we are only one major bank collapse away from the sort of inflexible timetable that started the First World War.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   9:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#946. To: A K A Stone (#0)

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Post Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:48 am by mcgowanjm Re: 2012 Bilderberger Meeting

Post Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:48 am by mcgowanjm The problem with being rich and powerful is that you become disconnected from reality.

No one is there(see Jeff Zuckerberg for details) to tell you different. Yes men is all you see.

You don't know your policies have failed until the guards are no longer at their posts. And then it's too late.

The enemy is at the gates.....The Non Linear is at hand.....

The market was anxious going in to the NFP print but once the dismal data point hit, things deteriorated rapidly.

Being “in” produces pleasurable effects in our brains, and being “out” produces real, physical pain. Further, our brains have evolved to make us want to seek status in our tribes, and to prefer immediate gratification over distant, theoretical considerations that might limit our consumption. (For an excellent, evergreen essay on this subject, see Nate Hagens’ post on The Oil Drum, “Fleeing Vesuvius.”)

The mere threat of being on the outs with one’s tribe can be enough to make us avoid thinking independently and rationally about issues like peak oil and climate change.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   9:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#947. To: All (#946)

You can tell when the PTB realize things need to be calmed down.

The Eminent Gris folks will be taken out of retirement....

greenspan on 99 000 people watching CNBC this AM......LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   9:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#948. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Simon Johnson: Jamie Dimon and the Failure of the Nation

No matter how you wish to frame it, the Banks must be restrained, and the financial system reformed, with balance restored to the economy, before there can be any sustained growth and recovery.

Or we can just let them collapse at the rate they're going now and let the Last war start with Peak Pollution....;}

Simon Johnson: Jamie Dimon and the Failure of the Nation

No matter how you wish to frame it, the Banks must be restrained, and the financial system reformed, with balance restored to the economy, before there can be any sustained growth and recovery."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   9:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#949. To: mcgowanjm (#946)

Stocks Plunge on Dire Jobs Numbers

Hi Jim.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-01   9:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#950. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Which bank will implode first? It’s a mugs game, but an interesting exercise in gambling. And believe me, you can bet your last cent that somewhere in a hedge fund close to you, clients are betting on this very imponderable.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   10:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#951. To: Fred Mertz (#949)

Fred. How ya doin'....;)

Haven't heard from you in awhile.

Figured you'd gotten your inheritance and gone and bought a string of ponies.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   10:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#952. To: All (#951)

However, De Guindos has stated that the IMF's stress test provides a hypothetical decline in GDP of 4% this year and 2% for next year, prospects "unreal," said.

"The report goes on to say that 70% of Spanish banks can overcome the situation without capital," he underlined Guindos, in an attempt to instill confidence in the situation of Spanish banks.

Anyone who thinks Spain's banks other than Bankia are "perfectly healthy" is a liar or insane.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   10:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#953. To: mcgowanjm (#951)

Figured you'd gotten your inheritance and gone and bought a string of ponies.....;}

No, my dad is alive and well and on another cruise spending my inheritance.

I glance at the news, especially this thread, and digest what I read. I don't respond like I used to, for whatever reason(s).

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-01   10:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#954. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.bloomberg.com/news/20...p-as-production-dips.html

rt.com/usa/news/liberty-survivor-gaza-flotilla/

Published: 04 June, 2010, 04:49 Edited: 09 June, 2010, 05:47 1967 USS Liberty (25.5Mb)

embed video TAGS: Conflict, Middle East, Protest, Law, USA

In June 1967, the Israel military attacked the USS Liberty. A survivor of that attack was onboard the Gaza aid flotilla and has survived yet again to tell the story. Joe Meadors is a pro-Palestinian activist and a survivor of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. That attack by the Israeli Air Force killed 34 Americans. Meadors was onboard one of the Gaza aid flotilla ships. “They Israeli military are very inept, to tell you the truth,” said Meadors.

Israeli forces were unable to sink an unarmed US Naval ship and were unable to adequately engage the Turkish liner.

“It was an illegal attack. We were on the high seas conducting legal activities. They admitted that they closed the area for military purposes but they, we tried to find out the boundaries of that area and they wouldn’t tell us,” said Meadors.

Meadors said that they violated international waters both in the recent flotilla attack and in 1967 at the attack of the USS Liberty, stating that Israel also violated international law by using unmarked aircraft. “They’re just a bunch of rag-tag people who think they can do no wrong.

Every time they speak they say they don’t break any laws, they always abide by international laws. But, they break them with impunity and the US Government is not going to hold them accountable, nobody is,” said Meadors. Meadors expects an investigation will show that Israel violated international law

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-02   8:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#955. To: All (#954)

“My husband died serving his country,” his wife, Allie Brazas, said in a statement released through Naval Base Kitsap.

“He loved his job. We will all miss him and we will never forget him. He is my hero.” Brazas’ father told the Greensboro News-Record that the sailor was shot while trying to help a soldier get in a helicopter.

“I’m proud of him …,” father Ed Brazas told the newspaper. “Freedom is not cheap. We pay for it with the dearest blood.” Brazas is the sixth Washington-based service member to die in Afghanistan this month.

Five soldiers from Joint Base Lewis-McChord have been killed in May. Brazas’ K-9 partner, a dog named Sicario, survived the attack that killed the handler, Danaher said.

***** He is my hero.” Brazas’ father told the Greensboro News-Record that the sailor was shot while trying to help a soldier get in a helicopter. *****

The only reason for helping someone into a helo on the battle field is that it's an ambulance.....

Several dozen of US-NATO invaders killed, 2 helicopters destroyed in martyrdom operation Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Friday, 11 Rajab 1433 Friday, 01 June 2012 17:32

KHOST, June. 01 – Mujahideen officials say that scores of US invaders were killed and many hurt in martyrdom operation which going on against Sahra Bagh Airbase in the capital of Khost province.

Mujahideen stormed Sahra Bagh airbase with missiles, rockets and heavy and light weapons from three sides at about 1:00 p.m. today and at about 4:00 p.m. shot down two of the enemy’s helicopters and setting them on fire. Whereas, at five o’clock, Mujahideen carried out a motorcycle bomb attack on the gate of the Airfield, killing and wounding scores of the invaders who were carrying the dead and wounded to the ambulance helicopters landed far from the base for fear of being shot by Mujahideen. The fighting is still on going.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-02   9:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#956. To: Fred Mertz (#953)

No, my dad is alive and well and on another cruise spending my inheritance.

LMAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-02   9:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#957. To: All (#956) (Edited)

#191. To: All (#0)

What was missed yesterday:

In 2003, Browne struck an $8 billion deal with a group of billionaires to form TNK-BP, the biggest single investment in post-Soviet Russia. Successful Move TNK-BP was Browne’s most successful move, giving BP the biggest Russian presence among the world’s largest oil companies.

Difficult Relationship While profitable, the investors in the TNK-BP venture have had a difficult relationship.

In 2008, Dudley, who was then CEO of TNK-BP, was forced to step down and left Russia after a dispute over company strategy. Last year, the billionaires took BP to arbitration after they cut TNK-BP out of a deal to explore Russia’s Arctic with state-run OAO Rosneft.

One of the Russian shareholders, Mikhail Fridman, resigned as CEO this week, casting renewed doubt on the future of the business. The board hasn’t met this year because shareholders can’t agree on a third independent director.

“It seems rather that BP’s hand has been forced,” said Colin McLean, CEO at SVM Asset Management. “I don’t think this is happening at BP’s choosing. As long as they don’t get a bad price, it draws a line under what doesn’t appear to have been handled well before.”

www.bloomberg.com/news/20...p-as-production-dips.html

Why the USSA hates Putin.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-02   9:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#958. To: All (#957)

[quote="Picasso Moon"][url]www.financial-post.com/br...chmark-for-oil.html[/url] Regarding how Brent is more important than WTI.[/quote]

[quote] The result will likely be a sharp reduction in foreign crude imports into Houston but also may lead to a localized glut of light sweet crude as most Texas refineries are set up to optimally process heavier grades of oil.

But [b]the Ho-Ho reversal[/b] will also feed into the pressure on Gulf Coast crude prices in Louisiana by further upsetting the balance there. [b] The deepwater barrels that cannot get onto a pipeline heading into Texas will face price pressures on their way to market from the new light barrels on Ho-Ho as well as the expected increase in Gulf of Mexico output.[/b] Of course, nothing here means that the Gulf Coast will experience anything like the massive discounts seen at Cushing in recent years [/quote]

www.reuters.com/article/2...oil-idUSL2E8F422O20120404.

The deepwater barrels that cannot get onto a pipeline heading into Texas will face price pressures on their way to market from the new light barrels on Ho-Ho as well as the expected increase in Gulf of Mexico output.

Here. Let me help....

The deepwater barrels that cannot get onto a pipeline heading into Texas will face price pressures (to match Brent) on their way to market (Europe, Asia, Anywhere but the US Mainland;) from the new light barrels on Ho-Ho as well as the expected increase in Gulf of Mexico output.

FIFY

:twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-02   10:06:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#959. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Day of reckoning time may be 2013. European governments toppled like tenpins. Obama or Romney in America hardly matters. Their agendas are similar on issues mattering most.

Both support militarism, permanent wars, imperial dominance, corporate needs above public ones, painful austerity, and stiff crackdowns on resisters. Going forward, things look grim. Households least able to cope suffer most.

Key indicators point south. The Baltic Dry index historically indicates global economic activity. In May, it slumped about 10%. Future prospects look uncertain or troubled. Only about 20% of companies ventured outlooks. Of those, over half turned negative."

" Analysts paying attention understand. Others suspect the worst. Europe is cratering in crisis. Media reports understate the severity. Sovereign debt is dangerously high. The world is awash in debt. Major banks are insolvent. Bailouts follow earlier ones."

-Stephen Lendman

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-02   12:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#960. To: mcgowanjm (#958)

Here. Let me help....

HEY CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-02   13:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#961. To: mcgowanjm (#959)

Here. Let me help....

.

Here CREEP. Let ME help you tell the TRUTH about YOU creep.....

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-02   13:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#962. To: A K A Stone (#0)

With Obama's 4:12 AM MayDay Bagram Speech, immediately boarding his plane and taking off as the Taliban attacked,

I knew we were at the EndGame. By Xmas the USSA would be out.

You can tell by how a Major Bank is imploding now. The Domestic mirrors the Foreign:

"Print KHOST, Jun. 02 – More than 100 US invading terrorists and tens of their puppets were killed and wounded in the martyrdom operation hit Sahrah Bagh airbase in Khost province.

According to the details, about 11 martyrdom-seeking heroes of Islamic Emirate, Shamsullah and Azimullah Khan coming from Paktia province, Muhammad Naeem, Atiqullah, Muhammad Yaqoob Ibrahimi, Karimullah and Sabeer residents of Ghazni province, Hafiz saifullah from Paktika province, Abdullah from Nangarhar and Abdurrahman from Logar province, stormed Sahra Bagh airfield in capital of Khost province, homes to hundreds of American invading troops.

The team of 11 martyr combatants armored with heavy and small arms and explosives vests in the US military uniforms got into the facility after slamming an explosive-filled truck into the airbase building.

Firstly, Shamsullah on Friday at about 1:00 p.m. carried out a martyr attack trough a truck packed with 10 tons of explosives roughly 10 thousand kilo grams, targeting the hotels and dining areas and gyms within the base in which dozens of the American cowardly troops were blowing to pieces and eliminated.

Soon after this huge and powerful explosion, 10 of 11 martyrdom-seeking Mujahideen entered the base facility and fought with rockets, hand grenades, explosive vests and heavy and light machine guns till 4:00 p.m., killing and wounding several dozens of US invading terrorist troops.

At about 5:00 p.m. Mujahideen detonated a motorbike parked outside near the gate of the base at puppets assisting the invaders in which more than 20 Afghan puppet soldiers were killed and wounded, whereas as many as 170 motorcycles were destroyed in the explosion.

The operation went on till the evening hours of the day in manner that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate took the airbase under attack from both inside by 10 combatants fighting the invading forces inside the base and from outside by other Mujahideen which made the enemy forces unable to use any aerial support. Two attack helicopters and a huge military plane as well as many tanks, fuel tankers, vehicles and fuel depots were set on fire and burned to ash.

It was the worst single-day losses for the US invaders and their puppets since the “Operation AL-Farooq” began and the local and western-flounced media’s reports on this successful operation are one-sided and based on false propaganda which attempt to understate the most lethal losses inflicted on the enemies, in particular on US invaders and undermine Mujahideen success. On the other hand, locals of the area and the US invaders themselves are well aware of the ground reality which speaks for itself.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   8:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#963. To: Mad Dog (#960)

Don't hate America.

Hate the American Government.....;}

Welcome to Hell, MD.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   8:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#964. To: Mad Dog (#961)

Show me proof.

Just like a Corporate Shill.

You've got obfuscation. And Ad Hominem attacks.

Zimmerman has to report to jail in a few hours.

Your buddy needs you now......;}

You getting paid well, MD?

" Both the Guardian and the BBC depend entirely on the logical fallacy of appealing to authority - be it an allegedly qualified witness, or satellite imagery and overwhelming techno-babble. Both news agencies have demonstratively failed to provide any actual evidence to back the narrative they have been irresponsibly reporting since Houla erupted into violence last week.

The narrative has shifted from the Syrian army shelling civilians to death, to soldiers dismounting from tanks and killing civilians at close range, to pro-government militias dismounting from tanks and killing civilians at close range, and now finally, militants in cars, trucks, and on motorbikes killing civilians at close range - which seems to corroborate the Syrian government's own conclusion, that it was terrorists.

The BBC has already been caught outright misrepresenting events in Houla, when they used a picture of dead bodies taken years ago from Iraq in their recent Syrian coverage."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   8:16:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#965. To: All (#964)

Now let's see the USSAMedia's reaction to this EpicFail.

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KHOST, Afghanistan (Reuters) - A blast was heard in the eastern Afghan city of Khost on Friday and smoke was rising near a NATO base, a Reuters witness and nearby residents said.

There was no immediate word on casualties. NATO said it was aware of an incident in the area but it was too early to comment. The Afghan Taliban said its fighters rammed a vehicle packed with large amounts of explosives into the base.

Violence has surged across Afghanistan since the Taliban began its yearly summer offensive in April, vowing to target Afghan government and security forces, as well as the 130,000 foreign troops in the country.

A police source said a gunbattle was raging near the base and local security forces were not able to get close to the area.

(Reporting by Elyas Wahdat in KHOST and Hamid Shalizi in KABUL; Writing by Michael Georgy; Editing by Ed Lane)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   8:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#966. To: All (#965)

Stars & Stripes:

"Attack on coalition base in Khost thwarted Stars and Stripes Published: June 1, 2012

Insurgents detonated an explosives-laden truck near the gate of a major American base in Eastern Afghanistan on Friday, kicking off a gun battle in which more than a dozen attackers were killed, U.S. military officials said.

The attackers made it inside the perimeter but no Afghan or U.S. troops were killed, though both U.S. and Afghan troops suffered minor injuries.

The U.S. military has not released the number of injuries or whether civilians were hurt.

The attack began around 1 p.m. at Camp Salerno just outside of Khost, the capital of Khost province. After the initial explosion insurgents, some wearing suicide vests, continued the attack but were repelled by U.S. and Afghan troops, said Maj. Paul Haverstick, a spokesman for the International Security Assistance Force’s Regional Command-East. At least two of the attackers detonated their vests and Haverstick said roughly 14 insurgents died in the attack.

“They tried a complex attack ... and it failed because of the quick reaction of the forces on the ground,” Haverstick said.

The Associated Press quoted a Taliban spokesman as saying that “tens” of foreign forces were killed and wounded and that a plane on an airstrip was destroyed, though the Taliban often exaggerates casualty claims."

Someone is working hard to find if a video exists.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   8:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#967. To: All (#966)

In this report, the last of the three, NYT, WaPo, AP don't even bother to file....

AFP

1. NATO: Afghan insurgents attack coalition base Idaho Press-Tribune‎ - 2 days ago KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghan officials say a bomb has exploded at a U.S.-led coalition base outside of Khost, the ... You Report News ...

The report has been replaced by a hostage rescue....;}

Amerika won't know until lines start forming outside the bank. And even then the majority will go, 'I don't have any money in the bank to get...'

'Maybe I should go get an extra big Advanced PayDay Loan......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   8:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#968. To: mcgowanjm (#965)

Several fighters, including some wearing suicide vests, attacked the base with rocket propelled grenades on Friday.

"As of now, we have reports of 14 insurgents killed," a spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force said.

He said the attack on the forward operating base had been foiled, although he was not in a position to provide operational details. There were no casualties among either NATO or Afghan forces.

www.aljazeera.com/news/as...6/201261124513910377.html

Wow, our guys are invincible!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-03   8:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#969. To: All (#967)

AFP 1.

NATO: Afghan insurgents attack coalition base Idaho Press-Tribune‎ - 2 days ago

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghan officials say a bomb has exploded at a U.S.-led coalition base outside of Khost, the ... You Report News ... The Taliban have responded by opening up new fronts in the north and west and stepping up attacks in the east, where much of the heaviest fighting is presently concentrated.

MY Edit: And what 'Heavy Fighting' is that? I ain't heard no stinkin' reports of heavy fighting? How are we supposed to Support Our Troops if we don';t know what we're supporting?

"It was a very strong blast. Khost city shook and we heard firing," Zazai said. Gula Jan, an Afghan police official who was at the scene, said the attack occurred at Camp Salerno.

Jan said six civilians – three women and three children – were slightly wounded when a wall collapsed from the force of the explosion.

My Edit: Please...at the gates of Camp Sa;erno are nothing but Day Care Centerts?....LMFAO

NATO (whoever they are. Noting absolutely ZERO named officials ever comment for the record.....;}

said it had no reports of any civilians being hurt during the attack.

Lulzzzzz....;}

"The blast was inside the compound and then we heard firing," Jan said. "There is a helicopter flying over the base."

But again, No one but Taliban were killed. And Just took 14 shots to kill all 14....;}

U.S. Army Maj. Paul Haverstick, a spokesman for the coalition in eastern Afghanistan, said no Afghan or foreign troops were killed and only a few coalition forces suffered minor injuries.

So Paul knows....at least we have a name... Haverstick said insurgents detonated a truck loaded with explosives at the entrance to the camp. The explosion allowed other insurgents to enter the compound. Two militants wearing explosive vests blew themselves up prematurely and caused no damage.

My Edit: So the insurgents are inside the base now, but since there was no one at the entrance except for a Day Care Center, no one got hurt, as the Insurgents tripped over each other in their haste to get to an actuall target inside Camp Salerno.....;}

Afghan and coalition forces fired at the group of insurgents. A total of 14 militants died in the attack, he said. Zabiullah Mujahid, a spokesman for the Taliban, claimed that a suicide bomber targeted the base in an explosives-filled vehicle that slipped onto the compound near where coalition troops dine. He said in a statement that after the blast, other insurgents entered the compound on foot and opened fire.

"They had suicide vests, rocket-propelled grenades, heavy machine guns and hand grenades," Mujahid said. Mujahid claimed that an airplane on an airstrip at the base was destroyed and that "tens" of foreign forces were killed and wounded. The Taliban often exaggerate the number of casualties caused by their attacks. NATO said no airplane was destroyed during the attack. Forward Operating Base Salerno has a large Soviet-built airfield.

It is near Camp Chapman, where seven CIA employees were killed in a suicide attack in December 2009. Salerno and its outlying fire bases have been the focus of repeated militant suicide, artillery and sniper attacks over the past several years. One of the most brazen of the war occurred in August, 2008, when about 100 Taliban fighters broke through the perimeter of the base.

After a two-hour fire fight, helicopter gunships forced the guerrillas to retreat. On May 19, a suicide bomber blew himself up at a police checkpoint in Ali Sher district of Khost province, killing 13 people – 10 civilians, two Afghan policemen and an Afghan border police officer.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   9:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#970. To: All (#969)

''Australia taking on the leadership now … puts us in a better position to manage the transition process,'' Mr Smith said.

He said the security situation in the province had improved substantially over the past two years.

During the past month, General Hurley said, a small team had been conducting an audit of equipment to determine what will come home and what will stay in Oruzgan.

The Defence Force chief, General David Hurley, said the change would make it easier to transfer responsibility to Afghan forces and prepare the withdrawal of Australian troops and equipment over the next 12 to 18 months.

''What this decision does is put us in the driving seat to control the interaction with those processes over the next year or so,'' General Hurley said. ''This is a major operational phase.

''For our forces outside the wire in Oruzgan it will make no difference at all.''

Read more: www.smh.com.au/opinion/po...-1zkvq.html#ixzz1wjeBZWfU

So in a month the Ozzies will then transfer their Leadership role to the Afghans after they just got their Leadership role from the USSA this week.

Which just took over from the Dutch who just left last week.....

I got that right?......90+% of Amerika is clueless as to the SNAFU in the Afghans.

Just imagine that Morgan Stanley is our Domestic Equivalent and that the Facebook fiasco is Camp Salerno.

You'll be right up to speed.....8D

The Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, announced on May 13 that the province would begin the transition to Afghan-led security responsibility in the middle of this year.

Read more: www.smh.com.au/opinion/po...-1zkvq.html#ixzz1wjdxgd3G

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   9:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#971. To: Fred Mertz (#968)

There were no casualties among either NATO or Afghan forces.

Wow, our guys are invincible!

When Captain America throws his mighty shield......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   9:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#972. To: A K A Stone (#0)

There is, as usual, no indication that these media outlets have any idea whatsoever about who was killed in these strikes. All they know is that "officials" (whether American or Pakistani) told them that they were "militants," so they blindly repeat that as fact. They "report" this not only without having the slightest idea whether it’s true, but worse, with the full knowledge that the word "militant" is being aggressively distorted by deceitful U.S. government propaganda that defines the term to mean: any "military-age males" whom we kill (the use of the phrase "suspected militants" in the body of the article suffers the same infirmity).

How is it possible to have any informed democratic debate over a policy about which the U.S. media relentlessly propagandizes this way?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   10:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#973. To: All (#972)

Thursday, May 31, 2012 Assange and the crooked British judges

"Julian Assange loses extradition case – live coverage" This is completely fucking outrageous, and everybody should be up in arms.

First, the majority of the court substituted its own argument for those made by the prosecutor - proving that they rejected all the prosecutor's arguments for extradition - an argument that was never argued in court, thus depriving Assange any chance to refute it. Secondly, they then tried a dirty trick by attempting to hide this substituted argument from Assange's counsel until it was too late.

They knew their methods of railroading Assange were dirty, and it was only the diligence of Assange's lawyer that brought this atrocity into the open in time, forcing the judges to give Assange another kick at the can. These judges of the majority are obviously utterly corrupt, and the only chance for justice in this matter will be in Strasbourg.

Looking forward to finding out that the SCOTUS does the same......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   10:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#974. To: All (#973)

#200. To: All (#199)

So the 13 deaths in fierce fighting in Tripoli Lebanon must not be going the USSA way.....;}

news.xinhuanet.com/englis...012-06/03/c_131627446.htm

Najib Mikati News, Photos and Videos - ABC News abcnews.go.com › Topics › News › WorldCached

kidnappings fueled fears that Lebanon is getting drawn into blocked roads. Lebanese Prime Minister Najib Mikati confirmed the men were Shiism. The leader of ... # Protests in Lebanon as Hizbollah-backed Najib Mikati is appointed ... www.telegraph.co.uk › News › Picture Galleries › World news You +1'd this publicly. Undo Lebanon's President Michel Suleiman has appointed telecoms tycoon Najib Mikati, who is backed by Hizbollah and its allies, as prime minister-designate, ...

Articles about Najib Mikati - CNN articles.cnn.com/keyword/najib-mikatiCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Pro-Syrian Lebanese President Emile Lahoud has named former government minister Najib Mikati as prime minister-designate. Mikati, also pro-Syrian, has ...

The First clue is that Xin hua is reporting it. The Second is that it relates DIRECTLY with Syria and Houle just miles up the road....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   10:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#975. To: mcgowanjm (#963)

Here. Let me help....

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

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Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

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Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#976. To: mcgowanjm (#964)

Gibbering libTURD evasion and LIES and diversion, as usual.

SOP for the foul piece of SHIT aka mctoejam

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

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SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#977. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#966)

More filth and libTURD LIES and SPIN .....

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#978. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#967)

Blah blah blah blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#979. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#969)

All of THIS from a guy who called his own made up brother's WW2 death at Anzio , "no unsual BRAVERY" who calls his brother and mother fools.

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#980. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#970)

The constant stirring strains of "the International" wafting through the night.

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#981. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#971)

libTURD gibber jabber OH LOOK!

DEAD and MANGLED AMERICANS!

libTURD JOY at the death and mangleing of AMERICANS

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#982. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#972)

"facts" pulled from mctoejams big fat ass. No citation EVER needed when the libTURD FILTH make shit up out of whole cloth.

LYING, HYPOCRITE, slack jawed brain DEAD libTURD asswipes

Tell us all again about how YOU are "superior" to your "brother" who you claim died at Anzio CREEP.

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#983. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#973)

libTURD angst at their little cowardly metro sexual rapist hero being BUSTED.

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#984. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#974)

The fevered hallucinations of an inferior mind.

The libTURD lickspittle dogma and talking points of the true libTURD believer.

The typical CLARITY and FACT based blather of the messiah "king" obammy's BIGGEST fan mctoejam.

CONSTANT anal dripping, (which pass for "wisdom" among libTURDS), from this foul COWARDLY insane libTURD asshole

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   15:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#985. To: A K A Stone (#0)

If “consumers” aren’t driving.....they aren't spending.

$82 handle on oil now.

Nothing's changed since Friday.

Forbes only last week wrote this in relation to what Obama should do about Spain:

“An American President would know how to say to Angela Merkel – if you do not compromise, if you do not resolve this, then we will begin sidelining your companies from our high speed rail projects; we will make it tough for you to sell luxury cars; we will review procurement procedures to eliminate your companies from our public tenders. We will not relent until you do.”

There is no way the electioneering Obama could be seen to be weak on euro-contagion, and so he has acted. Good for his campaign, bad for the Pentagon and the oil business who had other plans for Greece…and if the truth be known, still do.

As always with Berlin, however, there’s a catch: the Chancellery signalled that it may be open to euro-zone bonds or further support for the region’s banking sector, but that would depend on other countries agreeing to transfer more power to Brussels."

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   8:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#986. To: Mad Dog (#984)

Takes alot of effort, MD....;}

Hope those checks keep comin'.....;}

Hell is here.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   8:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#987. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The world is waiting to re-learn an old lesson: that untruth and reality exist in an adversarial relationship. Sad to say, there isn't enough legal infrastructure in the world, nor enough time, to pass judgment on all the lies and misrepresentations that burden the current edition of what passes for civilization. "

-kunstler

"Those of us who are peak oil aware should recognize that the most glaring indicator screaming out a bright red alert of an approaching crash has been the rapid plunge of oil prices over the past couple of months. On Friday, Brent crude dropped below $100 after touching $125 in March, while WTI plummeted to $83 after briefly topping $110 three months ago (remember those breathless $5.00-a-gallon gas by summer predictions that appeared in the mainstream media at the time? How silly do they look now?)."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   9:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#988. To: All (#987)

In the new tally by the National Climatic Data Center, Oklahoma's average temperature last summer was 86.9 degrees, while Texas finished with 86.7 degrees. The previous record for the hottest summer was 85.2 degrees set in 1934 — in Oklahoma. "I'm from Oklahoma, and when you talk about the summer of 1934, there are a lot of connotations that go with that," said Deke Arndt, chief of the NCDC's climate monitoring branch in Asheville, N.C. "That whole climate episode — the Dust Bowl — that is a point in our state's history that we still look back to as transformative." Yet the summer of 2011, "was warmer than all those summers that they experienced during the Dust Bowl," Arndt said.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   9:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#989. To: All (#988)

"In a somewhat stunning report from Der Spiegel, Israel is arming up to six new German-made submarines with nuclear weapons. These subs are being built in Germany and it turns out the helpful German government has known of this Israeli nuclearization for decades - despite official denial (more lying when it matters we presume). "

With the 75th largest economy in the world.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   9:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#990. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The world is waiting to re-learn an old lesson: that untruth and reality exist in an adversarial relationship. Sad to say, there isn't enough legal infrastructure in the world, nor enough time, to pass judgment on all the lies and misrepresentations that burden the current edition of what passes for civilization.

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=CL&cot=067651&p=m5

For all the epic volume of blather on the Internet and elsewhere, few have even remarked on extraordinary passivity of the vulgar masses in the face of having their future looted out from under them. The ethos of the penitentiary must have saturated the zeitgeist wherein you are expected to just bend over and take it good and hard where the sun don't shine and then you are rewarded with a baloney sandwich. At least that's been the theme since 2008. "

-kunstler

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   9:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#991. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#990)

you are expected to just bend over and take it good and hard where the sun don't shine and then you are rewarded with a baloney sandwich. At least that's been the theme since 2008. "

Yes, the "crab bucket" syndrome.

CRAB BUCKET SYNDROME

By Greg Griffin

One day I was walking along the Washington Beach, the black beach in Washington, North Carolina with my father. I was about eight years old. I noticed a man with a bucket of crabs. The crab bucket did not have a top on it. I asked my father why the crabs were not able to escape. My father’s explanation taught me a valuable lesson.

My father said, “If there was only one crab in the bucket it would certainly escape. However, when there is more than one crab in the bucket, if one tries to crawl out, the other crabs would grab hold and pull it back down so that it would share the same fate as the rest of them.”

This is true with people. If one person attempts to better himself, other people will attempt to drag him back down to share their fate. My father said, “ You must ignore the crabs if you want to be a success in life.

A few weekends ago a close friend called me early in the morning laughing. He told me that he had been at a local Montgomery, Alabama Barbershop when my name along with several other persons was dragged through the mud. “Griffin, There was a man in the Barber Shop and he said that, “The three biggest Uncle Toms in Montgomery are Larry Armstead (Mayor Bobby Bright’s right hand man), Sidney Williams (Chairman of the Alabama Board of Pardons and Paroles) and Greg Griffin (Chief Counsel for the Parole Board).” The man had no basis for his accusations. He went on to say derogatory things about Judge Charles Price, Representative John Knight and several other prominent black Montgomerians .

I don’t want to sound like a self-aggrandizing jackass, but I was somewhat flattered to be thrown in with these successful men. My thoughts immediately returned to what my father had told me when I was a child. This man was nothing more than a crab.

This gentleman had obviously given up on his quest to climb life’s peaks. He found his comfort in tearing down other prominent black men that he presumed had made it. He simply had the mentality that “If he can’t have it, then neither can you.”

My friend told me the man’s name. We share a mutual friend. My friend assured me that if I met him I couldn’t be angry with him. I thought about telling the other people what the man said, but later decided to let it ride. He will eventually say something about the wrong person and they will slap him with a slander suit. According to my friend, he even accused one prominent person whose name I will not mention in this article of being arrested in the Oak Park restroom.

Do you know crab people? Have you attempted to better yourself only to have family and friends to discourage you? Watch out for the crab syndrome.

I would like to recommend a book entitled The Fountainhead, by the Russian/American novelist Ayn Rand. In her introduction to the book, she tells the reader that, “Some give up at the first touch of pressure; some sell out; some run down by imperceptible degrees & lose their fire, never knowing when or how they lost it…Yet a few hold on & move on, knowing that fire is not to be betrayed, learning how to give it shape, purpose & reality. But whatever their future, at the dawn of their lives, men seek a noble vision of man’s nature & life’s potential. There are very few guideposts to find.

Why this man thinks that I am one of the three biggest uncle toms in Montgomery, I do not know. But I can tell you, this man should read Mathew 20:13-15 and Acts 5:4. He should abandon the politics of envy, and kiss the son, lest he be angry, and perish.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-04   11:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#992. To: mcgowanjm (#986)

Takes alot of effort, MD....;}

Hope those checks keep comin'.....;}

Hell is here.

It's no effort at all SCUM.

Paid? You're the gooberment WHORE SCUM. YOU are the one who LIVES OFF OF THE TAXPAYERS SCUM, not ME.

I don't get paid by ANY gooberment or anybody else SCUM.

I do this because I LOVE AMERICA and I DESPISE YOU and YOUR ILK SCUM.

btw SCUM "hell" isn't here yet, THAT'S what you libTURD CUNTS are TRYING to force onto America and AMERICANS right NOW you gibbering piece of wannabe tyrannical SHIT.

=.=

You gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-04   13:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#993. To: mcgowanjm (#988)

mctoejam's blather

=.=

You gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-04   13:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#994. To: mcgowanjm (#989)

JEW HATING libTURD dogma libTURD BLATHER

=.=

You gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-04   13:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#995. To: redleghunter, mctoejam (#991)

Do you know crab people? Have you attempted to better yourself only to have family and friends to discourage you? Watch out for the crab syndrome.

That is EXACTLY what mctoejam IS.

That's what ALL libTURDS are.

But it doesn't mean shit all to MOST mature Americans.

Because job ONE of ANY human being is to be REAL, to be yourself.

FTW

IF that's where you are coming from, such losers do not matter.

Be happy for other's success.

ENCOURAGE and SUPPORT folks who seek their own dreams.

Ignore or sneer at and ridicule LOSERS such as mctoejam who spends so much time telling himself things are impossible that they are, for HIM.

These people are UN-AMERICAN.

AMERICANS don't believe that anything is "impossible". WE do the "impossible" EVERY F'ing day.

"In the beginning there was the WORD."

"LEAD, FOLLOW, or get the HELL OUT OF THE WAY!"

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-04   13:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#996. To: redleghunter (#991)

.

btw I'm going off line now to go do something IMPOSSIBLE, (well at least IMPOSSIBLE for libTURD WHORES such as mctoejam anyhow.)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-04   13:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#997. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#204. To: All (#0)

Helicopter downed in Helmand battle; 30 US-NATO invaders killed Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Monday, 14 Rajab 1433 Monday, 04 June 2012 15:58

HELMAND, Jun. 04 – The fighting broke out after the a large number invaders dropped off by the helicopters pressed ahead with an offensives in Baghran district of Helmand province at about 2:00 a.m. local time and continued all through Monday in which several dozen of the invaders have been killed or wounded so far.

According to a new report, Mujahideen shot down a helicopter amid fighting today killing more than 30 invaders in Baghran district of this province. The wreckage of the struck helicopter along with the corpses and the wounded are still lying at the scene.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-05 7:21:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #205. To: All (#204)

Breaking:

NATO secures Exit Route from the Afghans.

I didn't know that leaving was a problem....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   7:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#998. To: redleghunter (#991)

I would like to recommend a book

I also.

But no one will pay me to do so....;}

And this is Planet HEll...where everything bends to Power.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   7:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#999. To: All (#994)

Lil boy playing with matches.

Over a can of gasoline.

Everyone knows the results.

Well, maybe not everyone.

The modern tradition of concerns about an impending decline of resource extraction began in 1865 with Victorian economist William Stanley Jevons (1835–1882), who concluded that falling coal output must spell the end of Britain’s national greatness as it is “of course…useless to think of substituting any other kind of fuel for coal.” Substitute oil for coal in the last sentence and you get the erroneous foundations of the doomsday sentiment shared by the peak-oil catastrophists.

peakoil.com/consumption/the-end-of-cheap-oil-7/

dawn.com/2012/06/04/nato-...als-through-central-asia/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   7:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1000. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Note to ZioFundies:

The following predates the Beginning of your Religion's Civilization....it's a Power thing....;}

Picasso Moon wrote:Money, be it paper, material(e.g. gold) or electronic, is a FETISH, nothing more than an increasingly inaccurate representation of value. http://www.dailybattle.pair.com/2012/occupy_target_destroy_ruling_money_fetish.shtml

Yes, PO, as well as the quickly-accelerated crisis of the biosphere, make this economic collapse very different from the 1910s and 1930s, make any "recovery" pretty much impossible even with a global war.

Well, yes, but until we can light fires with lightening bolts from our hands, or live like First Nation as Hunter/Gatherers, then Economic Collapse is Peak Oil.

As Debt is Information Over run based on Energy Return on Future Consumption.

As Every Civiliation before can attest.

The only difference this time is the Extremely High EROEI we've enjoyed this last 150 years. Note the MAny Parabolic Curves that have resulted and which are now coming back down to Baseline.

The Pop Curve the biggest Example. 400 million humans by 2120.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   7:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1001. To: mcgowanjm (#1000) (Edited)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   8:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1002. To: A K A Stone (#1001) (Edited)

All the above wasted, as I'm done reading the bible. But maybe you could interest your lap dog, MD, in some of it. The bible does have some interesting quotes on manners....;}

Power Over Religion.

Like Fukushima/Onogawa over JApan....;}

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Foster wrote:It is sort of morbidly fascinating to watch and see that the ride down the right side of the per-capita energy consumption curve, in most manifesting ways, translates (itself in)to "war on the working class." That could also be the "haves" trying to guarantee that they and theirs remain haves. Aside from ancient and tiny groups, is it possible to escape the effects of greed?

No... :twisted:

Because this is Planet Hell.

There is a path out for each individual, but it's not easy. How could it be? All you have to do is Stand and Hold and Not Give Up.

'The virtues are eternal, getting possession of them is not for the weak and temporal minded. It takes everything because it also provides everything; everything beyond the common dreams of those addicted to the trough.'-Les Visible.... :? 8-)

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Post Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:27 am by mcgowanjm

Greece stands on the verge of an energy crisis caused not by lack of energy, but lack of money within the energy sector. This will become a common refrain throughout Europe and beyond in the coming months and years. Loss of liquidity has a cascading effect on supply chains, causing them to seize up.

Illargi misses this one.

The grand euro experiment is grinding toward its ultimate conclusion, this can be seen in the petroleum markets. The chart by Bloomberg:

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Here we see what happens when a belief system dies. The grinding part is caused by the high price of petroleum. It has cost so little for so long the entire machinery world has been built up around it. A low price has been assumed forever. Now fuel is unaffordable by a large and increasing part of the world economy: the part that has been charged with servicing the world’s debt.

The outcome of the high price has been demand destruction with resulting sharp fall in the price: down then up then down again. The public naively believes the decline in price is an unadulterated ‘good thing’ but prices fall today because something important has died … such as a country.(My Edit: Spain.... :twisted:

www.economic-undertow.com/

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Post Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:29 am by mcgowanjm Re: Mounting signs of deepening global slump

Post Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:29 am by mcgowanjm We've got maybe 2 weeks left, probably less, as the banks/fiance won;t wait for the greek election results to move.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   8:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1003. To: mcgowanjm (#1002)

New International Version (©1984) "'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

New Living Translation (©2007) "If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.

English Standard Version (©2001) If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

New American Standard Bible (©1995) If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) When a man has sexual intercourse with another man as with a woman, both men are doing something disgusting and must be put to death. They deserve to die.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003) If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

American King James Version If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them.

American Standard Version And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Douay-Rheims Bible If any one lie with a man se with a woman, both have committed an abomination, let them be put to death: their blood be upon them.

Darby Bible Translation And if a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall certainly be put to death; their blood is upon them.

English Revised Version And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Webster's Bible Translation If a man also shall lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

World English Bible "'If a man lies with a male, as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Young's Literal Translation And a man who lieth with a male as one lieth with a woman; abomination both of them have done; they are certainly put to death; their blood is on them. Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

If a man lie also with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,.... Is guilty of the sin of sodomy, this is a breach of the law in Leviticus 18:22,

both of them have committed an abomination; he that lies, and he that is lain with, both consenting to perpetrate the abominable wickedness; which may well be called an abomination, being contrary to nature, and more than brutish, for nothing of that kind is to be found among brutes:

they shall surely be put to death; if he that is lain with is not forced, as Aben Ezra observes:

their blood shall be upon them; be slain by stoning, as the above Targum. Geneva Study Bible

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Wesley's Notes

20:13 Put to death - Except the one party was forced by the other. See Deu 22:25. Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

20:10-27 These verses repeat what had been said before, but it was needful there should be line upon line. What praises we owe to God that he has taught the evil of sin, and the sure way of deliverance from it! May we have grace to adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things; may we have no fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness, but reprove them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   8:14:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1004. To: mcgowanjm (#1002)

as I'm done reading the bible.

Willing ignorance is no excuse my friend.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   8:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1005. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The periphery nations, led by Spain, are pushing on Germany and the funding nations to step-in but the cost will be very high and a huge loss of sovereignty. I doubt if many in Europe understand the price that will be extracted which will be the EU taking over Spain’s financial system, taxes and social services so that Brussels/Berlin will control the country.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1006. To: A K A Stone (#1004)

Willing ignorance is no excuse my friend.

Yep. You're exactly correct.

as I'm done reading the bible.

Study Power more....bible less....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1007. To: A K A Stone (#1004)

The problem for you, A K A, is that the bible is a Story.

A Faith&Believe story.

"I spend a lot of time on DOTE(Decline of the Empire;) talking about reality versus fantasy so you too will learn to see how people typically "think" about the Big Issues.

It turns out they don't think much at all (i.e. don't engage in rational thought, Kahneman's System 1).

Fundamentally, human beings were designed by nature for Faith & Belief, not for rational thought (System 2). I've known that for years and years now because if you actually look as objectively as possible at what goes on in this world, which is what I have tried to do, that's what you see over and over again.

However, the word "story" is neutral, and therefore calling a narrative "a story" effectively divorces it from whatever truth it might contain. Here's a good-enough definition in the intended sense.

An account or recital of an event or a series of events, either true or fictitious, as:

a. An account or report regarding the facts of an event or group of events: "the witness changed her story under questioning."

b. An anecdote: "came back from the trip with some good stories."

c. A lie: "told us a story about the dog eating the cookies."

The whole point of science, which led to human "subjugation" of the natural world as a desired side-effect, and whole point of data-based analysis of current and historical events, was to contruct narratives (called "theories") which were based in fact & observation, and subject to change based on new evidence.

A good theory should be falsifiable, i.e. subject to testing. Otherwise, it is merely a story which may be true or fictitious (see below). The whole point was for some humans to stop telling such stories about how the world works, about events and about each other. Such stories don't need to be grounded in anything. They can be fabricated from whole cloth, and often are.

Right up until the 16th century, all humans had been telling each other stories, often self-justifying, self-serving stories, for tens of thousands of years. Surely it comes as no surprise that the overwhelming majority of people still do that.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1008. To: mcgowanjm (#1005)

They should disband the EU. The EU is evil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1009. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Spain & the Afghans....noting that no one on the USSAMedia cirxuit is talking about either....yet....;}

"Spain arrived at the precipice, as I have predicted many times and this morning; they have fallen over the edge.

So long and thanks for all the sardines!

Sancho is no longer fighting with windmills this morning. Notions of some charming book or a small foray into the countryside have been replaced by a much more serious confrontation where Germany will demand vengeance for the irresponsible behavior of Spain.

And

A Chinook with 30 USSAns lies crashed and burned as I type.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1010. To: mcgowanjm (#1007)

The problem for you, A K A, is that the bible is a Story.

Yes is is a story of the Human races origin. It explains why plants reproduce after like kind. There is no evolution. It tells us why there is evil in the world. It tells us why we wear clothes. Animals don't wear clothes. It tells us why man is fallen. It also tells us how to be redeemed. It tells us everything we need to know in order to live correctly.

Many people have some sin they don't want to give up. So they reject the clear moral teachings from God.

We all have a choice where we will spend eternity. We all choose Heaven or Hell.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1011. To: mcgowanjm (#1007)

A good theory should be falsifiable, i.e. subject to testing.

So you admit that evolution isn't a science. It is not testable. Nice to see someone being honest.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1012. To: A K A Stone (#1008)

They should disband the EU. The EU is evil.

No more than the USSA which they have copied to the bestest of their abilities....;}

But you weren't thinking of This Evil I'm sure:

Germany arms Israel with the latest nuclear armed subs.

CBS News‎ - 21 hours ago Der Spiegel reports Israel deploying nuclear-tipped cruise missiles on German-built submarines partially funded by Berlin Read more by ...

Of course not....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1013. To: mcgowanjm (#1012)

No more than the USSA which they have copied to the bestest of their abilities....;}

They have no bill of rights or checks and balances. Their system is nothing like ours.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1014. To: mcgowanjm (#1012)

But you weren't thinking of This Evil I'm sure:

Germany arms Israel with the latest nuclear armed subs.

No that is good. Kind of like the second amendment that gives you liberals all kinds of fits. Israel has a right to defend itself from Muslim maniacs. Maybe Israel will take those nukes and rid the world of the muslim scum that inhabits the earth presently.

Go Israel Gods chosen people.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1015. To: A K A Stone (#1011)

So you admit that evolution isn't a science.

Nice try with your storytelling acumen....but no cigar....;}

Evolution beats creationism...and so until I find a better theory...;}

Like, I haven't seen humans created....but I have seen deer/people get smaller fast on a reduced diet/crowding....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1016. To: A K A Stone (#1014)

Go Israel Gods chosen people.

This is a football game....Lulz.

And once again that story telling of God taking sides.

Which of course a just god would not do....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1017. To: A K A Stone (#1014)

No that is good.

A sentence containing the words 'nuclear armed' is never good.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1018. To: A K A Stone (#1014)

you liberals

Ain't no liberals left.

Reganauts killed 'em all off.

Just Dirty Fuckin' Hippies here now....you know...the tough SOB's that have been right since Reagan....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1019. To: A K A Stone (#1014)

Israel has a right to defend itself from Muslim maniacs.

Is That who was piloting the USS Liberty?

LMFAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1020. To: mcgowanjm (#1015)

So you admit that evolution isn't a science.

Nice try with your storytelling acumen....but no cigar....;}

Oh you hypocrite. You can't test millions of years. And nothing has ever witnesses to have evolved. Do you think some day you will plant a tomato plant and it will magically through evilution change into something else. Or if you plant grass seed it might magically start producing some kind of new fruit through evilution? Evolution is nonsense. It is a fairy tale by satan for the stupid and gullible who don't want to follow the true way God told us about.

I pity the fool who thinks we evolved. I will add that many of the people who have the false belief system known as evolution, really just want to fuck monkeys.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1021. To: A K A Stone (#1014)

Maybe Israel will take those nukes and rid the world of the muslim scum that inhabits the earth presently.

So you have nukes that only target religion?

Kinda like a weird neutron bomb, eh?

Boy, wouldn;t that be neat.

But, no, of course not.

Nuclear eliminates war....there's no weak ones left after.

Just cinders, green glass, microbes, ticks, and cockroaches.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1022. To: mcgowanjm (#1018)

Ain't no liberals left.

Reganauts killed 'em all off.

I wish.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1023. To: mcgowanjm (#1021)

So you have nukes that only target religion?

Nukes that target Iran.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1024. To: mcgowanjm (#1021)

Just curious. How do you make a living?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1025. To: A K A Stone (#1020)

Oh you hypocrite. You can't test millions of years.

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ANYTHING else I can do for ya, A K A, just holler.....;}

But O Hell, why bother. You don't/can't even believe in the Holocene.

Less bible study....more documentation System II thinking.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1026. To: A K A Stone (#1023)

So you have nukes that only target religion?

Nukes that target Iran.

ever wonder why those targeted nukes haven't been fired?

LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1027. To: A K A Stone (#1022)

Ain't no liberals left.

Reganauts killed 'em all off.

I wish.

You're thinking of Libertarians.

Liberals would be moderate Republicans now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:55:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1028. To: A K A Stone (#1024) (Edited)

Just curious. How do you make a living?

Current Events....;}

I can usually(;)tell what's going to happen about 30 seconds before the best.....;} & can lose and afford it usually(;) when I'm wrong.

"For example, emotional ties and shared beliefs are the cement which holds human groups together, i.e. beyond the obvious social ties, shared beliefs promote group coherence, which is often more important for humans than anything outside personal survival. It is only important that the beliefs are shared. It doesn't matter so much what those beliefs actually are. That's politics in a nutshell, and that's why I say politics makes you stupid. In fact, being a group member in good standing was tantamount to personal survival for tens of thousands of years. You could not survive outside the group.

As to the question of human rationality, I have for many years considered that question closed. If you are still laboring under the delusion that humans are in the general case rational decision-makers, or problem-solvers, or, in Kahneman's terms, System 2 thinkers, you need to take a long, hard look at the story you're telling yourself because it is quite obviously wrong and you are living in a fantasy world."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1029. To: mcgowanjm (#1028)

Just curious. How do you make a living?

Current Events....;}

That isn't an answer. Unless you mean as in currently people can get welfare and not work. Is that what you mean? I hope not.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   11:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1030. To: A K A Stone (#1029)

If you check his IP and it comes up Chantilly VA, let me know...I will take a wild guess:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-05   13:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1031. To: mcgowanjm (#999)

mctoejam; blah blah blah A REALLY weak attempt to pose as a sane person blah blah blah.

LOL!

I'd tell you to see who is the "boy" around here you mohammaden piece of shit. I'd tell you to suck a certain something haji, but you'd ENJOY it.

So you can go suck your messiah's ass you little Hate America FIRST! libTURD pussy.

+=+

You gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

=+=

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-05   16:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1032. To: A K A Stone (#1008)

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God IS disbanding the EU.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-05   16:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1033. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#211. To: All (#0)

If voting changed anything, they would make it illegal.

And, btw, when was that groundswell to bring computers/optical scans into the voting precincts?

The answer is there never was one....;}

O and Exit Polls can not be seen by mere mortals.

Anything else?.....;}

"Amazing, isn’t it? Obama made a huge thing about this ‘transparency’ business and then prosecuted whistle blowers of all sorts, ruthlessly and viciously as well as continued all the secret assassinations and tortures Bush launched. These guys imagine no one will see past their hypocrisy and their push for total secret power a la Stalin as they struggle to take over all nations speaking of which, they want to take over Syria:..."

http://emsnews.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/secret-bilderberg-meeting-ends-us-media-totally-blacks-out/#more-14935

So Foreign, so Domestic.

We humans progress, remembering that nobility despises elections, but the progress happens when we least expect it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   9:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1034. To: All (#1033) (Edited)

Global Depression deepens.

Less than two weeks.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   9:25:48 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1035. To: Mad Dog (#1032)

Power over religion....you'll understand....one way or another.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   9:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1036. To: All (#1035)

June 6, 2012 CRASH 2: Berlin reverses its millimetre of movement on eurobonds

The Earth may be turning, but the economy is at Dead Stop

‘Germany has not moved one inch towards fiscal union of any kind’ writes Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in today’s Telegraph.

And I’m afraid he’s right. Merkel is a crafty minx, and no mistake: she appeared to have buckled yesterday, but now she’s upped and said “Oooo nein, you misunderstood me”. This isn’t playing well in either Washington (where Geithner is tearing his hair out by the roots) and back in Bankfurt, where – I’m told – even Draghi looked exasperated after taking a phone-call from the Ostikanzler yesterday late afternoon."

-hat4UK

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   9:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1037. To: A K A Stone (#1029)

That isn't an answer.

It's all the answer you're getting.

I'm alive and not hurting...but if someone sends me a check, I will cash it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   10:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1038. To: redleghunter (#1030)

If you check his IP and it comes up Chantilly VA

The Bilderbergers!.....;}

On the other hand, Europe has more news this year that is current and important: Bilderberg 2012: Ken Clarke’s drive of shame | World news | guardian.co.uk

Ken Clarke was the last man out. I’m not surprised he was late up. Britain’s lord chancellor had the beery sheen and aspirin eyes of a man who’d found the closing banquet of Bilderberg 2012 more than usually chillaxing. He looks like he’s been pulled through a hedge fund backwards. I’m not even sure he’s wearing trousers.

BTW, the Bilderbergs were started by Wild Bill Donovan...so basically it's a CIA confab to set Strategy....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   10:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1039. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The world is coming to a halt. And the varietal factors behind this – debt fears, insane austerity, QE wasted on bank support, redistribution of wealth away from the mass market, stealth taxes, Zirp wiping out silver spenders, Brussels inaction, Wall Street over-leveraging, IMF underfunding and over-demanding – are all different symptoms of the same disease: this globalist, suprastate, finance-obsessed model of capitalism is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Meanwhile, stand by for a new development – predicted here some time ago, and connected to the fact that Global commodity prices had their worst decline in four years during the last four weeks.

The next post will flesh out the detail on a new (and very big) potential Sovereign casualty. Stay tuned.

-hat4uk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   10:16:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1040. To: All (#1039)

$202.4 million

$41 million

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   10:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1041. To: All (#1040)

News for $202.4 million $41 million news

1. Average income of super rich: $202.4 million

CNN‎ - 15 hours ago Their average AGI was down from $270.5 million in 2008. ... tax bill among the top 400 in 2009 came to roughly $41 million, down from nearly $49 million the year before. ... Insurance news and resources from BankRate ...

1. Average Income Of Super Rich: $202.4 Million WIBW‎ - 10 hours ago 2. Average Income Of Super Rich: $202.4 Million NBC Montana‎ - 13 hours ago

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   10:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1042. To: mcgowanjm (#1035)

Power over religion....you'll understand....one way or another.

Arrogance is the mark of your kind SCUM.

You have no gnostic knowledge of ANY kind you ignorant poseur.

The only thing that you know that I do not is what it is like to volunteer to be a SLAVE, and the taste of your master's shit.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-06   16:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1043. To: mcgowanjm (#1037)

I'm alive and not hurting...but if someone sends me a check, I will cash it....;}

I'll send you a check creep.

Gotta real name and address creep?

I'll send it certfied creep.

No BALLS creep.

LMAOAYC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-06   16:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1044. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Calling bull shite on this election now.

Especially from the punditocracy citing Flawed Exit Polling.

Why Do All Election Forecasters, Political Scientists, Academics and Media Pundits Avoid the Systemic Fraud Factor? 22 Nov

Why Do All Election Forecasters, Political Scientists, Academics and Media Pundits Avoid the Systemic Fraud Factor?

Richard Charnin

Updated: May 11, 2012

It is about time that the so-called experts who promote overly complex or overly simplistic pre and post election models started to apply the scientific method. They need to do a robust probability and statistical analysis and include the election fraud factor in their historical regression factor analyses and polling models.

richardcharnin.wordpress....ag/unadjusted-exit-polls/

Outraged that the Wisconsin exit polls could be so wrong?

Then you need to know that exits are great at telling us why people voted the way they did. How they voted, not so much

* Share 0 * * * Email

* Harry J Enten * o Harry J Enten o guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 6 June 2012 18.24 EDT

not a word about Systemic Fraud from Computer Black Box Voting System.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   20:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1045. To: Mad Dog (#1043)

I'll send you a check

No. You want. Cause you're a tight ass.....;}

you have no empathy....;}

And from now on, it's Mister to you, fuckstick.....;}

You can't cuss either....;}

Must be a Zio Fundy....for some reason your ilk thinks you go to heaven if you don't cuss.....;}

So Fuck You again....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   20:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1046. To: Mad Dog (#1042)

Power over religion....you'll understand....one way or another.

Arrogance is the mark of your kind SCUM.

And so Fuck stick.

Again, you have zero idea of who I am.

I just don't go to your church.....and that's enough for you, eh?

"The proof is simple and self-explanatory: there have been at least 80 million uncounted votes in the 1968-2008 presidential elections. These were a combination of spoiled, provisional and absentee ballots. And the vast majority (70-80%) of the uncounted votes were, not surprisingly, for the Democrat."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   20:55:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1047. To: All (#1046)

Power Always trumps religion....seen any pastors talking about Drones lately?

Of course not.....;}

"Media pundits and political scientists never question the standard practice of forcing the exit polls to match the recorded vote. It is unscientific and faith-based. Besides, the adjustments are are mathematically impossible."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   20:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1048. To: All (#1047)

"This is how the 2004 National Exit Poll was forced to match the recorded vote: 1) Bush Approval The unadjusted state exit poll weighted aggregate (76,000 respondents) indicates that 50.3% of respondents approved of Bush’s performance. Kerry won the aggregate by 51.1-47.5%. He won the unadjusted National Exit Poll, a 13,660 subsample of the state exits) by 51.7-47.0%. But in the adjusted Final National Exit Poll, Bush approval was increased to 53%. What was the rationale? To force a match to the recorded vote. Eleven (11) final national pre-election polls gave Bush a 48% approval rating.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   21:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1049. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The problem will be that these people actually think they won.

When they are abyssmal political failures..... :twisted:

Of the 148 exit polls that exceeded the MoE, 138 shifted to the Republican. The probability that this was a random occurrence is ZERO. The movement from the exit polls to the vote has been in ONE direction. It is proof of systemic vote miscounts beyond any doubt

The crisis is that the USSA has been since 1968.

And the bottom 99% are at the end of their rope after the greatest Wealth transfer in World history.

The Top 400 avg $202.4 million and pay taxes of $41 million.

That's down from $49 million last year.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-06   21:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1050. To: mcgowanjm (#1045)

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No SCUM what's happening here is that I called your bluff, and as usual SCUM, you've got NOTHING.

What's the matter mctoejam?

SCARED to go public?

How's life on the gooberment tit SCUM?

YOU don't pass the physical to fuck me SCUM.

1.) You have to be HUMAN.

2.) You have to be FEMALE.

3.) You have to NOT be a worthless piece of shit.

Three strikes and YOU are out SCUM.

Stick it where the sun don't shine SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-06   22:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1051. To: mcgowanjm (#1046)

Power over religion....you'll understand....one way or another. Arrogance is the mark of your kind SCUM.

And so Fuck stick.

Again, you have zero idea of who I am.

I just don't go to your church.....and that's enough for you, eh?

"The proof is simple and self-explanatory: there have been at least 80 million uncounted votes in the 1968-2008 presidential elections. These were a combination of spoiled, provisional and absentee ballots. And the vast majority (70-80%) of the uncounted votes were, not surprisingly, for the Democrat."

LOL!

I know EXACTLY WHO and WHAT YOU ARE SCUM.

You are the poster child for USEFUL IDIOTS.

DisHONORABLE SCUM such as YOU can't even tell the difference between the PEOPLE and the gooberment.

You told all of US EXACTLY who and what YOU are SCUM, when you ranked on your own brother's ultimate sacrifice at ANZIO as to being an action of "no extraordinary courage".

I don't care why you are SCUM.

It's enough to know that you ARE, without any doubt, SCUM.

It's not my opinion of you that is important SCUM, it's God's opinion that counts.

I don't speak for HIM.

But I'd feel safe in advising you to die in nomex skivvies SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-06   22:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1052. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#1047)

Power Always trumps religion

LOL!

So says the FOOL in his heart.

The FOOL who has no idea what true power is.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-06   22:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1053. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#220. To: All (#219) (Edited)

3 Responses to “X-37B Spacecraft: “It’s Still Up There””

1. JWSmythe Says: December 1st, 2011 at 10:20 pm

That’s wonderful. They’ve mastered the concept of removing the M from ICBM, and can now leave it in orbit, and weapon deliverable within what? 5 minutes from “launch” (drop) to impact?

Well, I guess they can leave the B part off too. Who needs a nuke, when you have gravity? “hypervelocity rod bundle” anyone? Tactical nukes without the radiation. That makes is safer for those controlling the craft to occupy their new conquest.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.....oject_Thor

www.popsci.com/scitech/.....6/rods-god

I wish I was only worrying about conspiracies. It’s the gov’t who dreams up these ideas. 2. pessimistic optimist Says: December 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm

well at the very least its nice to think of nasa as an honest organization now, no more of this “civilian” space agency anti-nazi nonsense. i suppose nobody could do anything about it now anyway, and thats kinda the point of disclosure this late in the game.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-06 22:00:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #221. To: All (#0)

Picasso Moon wrote:Ilargi did not write that piece, Nicole Foss (Stoneleigh) did, but some people don't care about details. :D

Two weeks, eh? Guess we won't have to wait long. :lol: :lol:

:? 8-)

Yes. A fault of mine. I figure that others will rapidly clue me in.

:twisted:

And I noticed that after I posted, but ...well...call me efficient... my wife calls me lazy....Lulzzzzzz... :lol:

Anyway, they're All TAE. Probably I'll just go with that from now on.

And yes, right now I don't see a way for the PTB to game the Greek elections... any more than they have.

Syriza, that Far Left (anyone to the left of Hollande;) party, looks to get the nod. Tsipras will then have to rapidly back pedal/be bought off.

That takes more time than the EZ has.

4.bp.blogspot.com/-blOyQ3...eum%2Busage%2B2012-05.png

And That's where the S&P should be right now.

And how far it has to fall to get there. BTW. Note how California Pensions were cut yesterday? And how many more will be doomed with a Market Fall to Feb 09 levels?

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Post Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:07 am by mcgowanjm Re: Mounting signs of deepening global slump

Post Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:07 am by mcgowanjm Also from that chart above.

Note how gasoline is most accurately reflecting the economy.

Where as Petroleum is the Sine Quo Non of the Economy.

My meaning? That cars can/will be sacrificed as needed.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-07 7:46:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #222. To: All (#221)

And when was the last time you saw our POTUS at one of these signings with one of these guys....;}

www.iraq-war.ru/article_image.php?id=272486

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-07 7:48:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #223. To: All (#222)

The federal tax of 18.4 cents a gallon hasn't been raised in nearly two decades "As the (national vehicle) fleet becomes more fuel efficient … we're going to lose a lot of revenue from the gas tax. If it's not replaced, we're going to see our transportation infrastructure deteriorate," says Joshua Schank, president of the non-partisan Eno Center for Transportation in Washington, D.C..

I assume from that quote that you only get to be the president of the non-partisan (Fill in the Blank Now;)Eno Center for Transportation if you are either an idiot or a paid stooge for wealthy assholes who don't wish to pay their fair share in taxes.

the whole concept is so riddled with real world practical flaws that it should have been rejected outright before it ever received coverage in the mainstream media. The sad fact is that the one-percenters are out to f**k the rest of us in so many different ways these days that it is difficult to keep track of them all.

Now comes word that workers at an Illinois plant for the manufacturer Caterpillar have been on strike for a month after rejecting a “concession-heavy contract” proposed by the company, say union officials. Last Friday workers rejected a second Caterpillar offer, by a vote of 504-116. According to a new report by Nation of Change the contract “provided no raises, eliminated the defined benefits pension program, weakened seniority rights and required machinists to pay higher contributions for health care.”

The typical American worker would have to work 244 years in order to earn what the average CEO makes in just one year. Over the last 30 years, CEO pay has increased 127 times faster than worker pay, says the report.

H/t to billhicksisdead.blogspot.com

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-07   7:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1054. To: Mad Dog, All (#1052)

Power Always trumps religion

LOL!

So says the FOOL in his heart.

The FOOL who has no idea what true power is.

So now you want to bring everyone into this?

LMFAO

Noticing again the complete lack of cussing.

While acting like the anti christ.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-07   7:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1055. To: Mad Dog (#1051)

Power over religion....you'll understand....one way or another. Arrogance is the mark of your kind SCUM.

And so Fuck stick.

Again, you have zero idea of who I am.

I just don't go to your church.....and that's enough for you, eh?

"The proof is simple and self-explanatory: there have been at least 80 million uncounted votes in the 1968-2008 presidential elections. These were a combination of spoiled, provisional and absentee ballots. And the vast majority (70-80%) of the uncounted votes were, not surprisingly, for the Democrat."

LOL!

I know EXACTLY WHO and WHAT YOU ARE SCUM.

You are the poster child for USEFUL IDIOTS.

DisHONORABLE SCUM such as YOU can't even tell the difference between the PEOPLE and the gooberment.

You told all of US EXACTLY who and what YOU are SCUM, when you ranked on your own brother's ultimate sacrifice at ANZIO as to being an action of "no extraordinary courage".

I don't care why you are SCUM.

It's enough to know that you ARE, without any doubt, SCUM.

It's not my opinion of you that is important SCUM, it's God's opinion that counts.

I don't speak for HIM.

But I'd feel safe in advising you to die in nomex skivvies SCUM.

Again:

Note the Complete lack of cussing.

Even as I'm giving MD 'fuck you's all over.....8D

Are you some kind of Fundy Minister, MD?

A Stormfront Pastor? LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-07   7:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1056. To: Mad Dog (#1051)

Tell me you have a Confederate Battle Flag on your truck....please.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-07   7:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1057. To: mcgowanjm (#1053)

The typical American worker would have to work 244 years in order to earn what the average CEO makes in just one year. Over the last 30 years, CEO pay has increased 127 times faster than worker pay, says the report.

Amazing!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-07   8:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1058. To: mcgowanjm (#1053)

The typical American worker would have to work 244 years in order to earn what the average CEO makes in just one year. Over the last 30 years, CEO pay has increased 127 times faster than worker pay, says the report.

bible.org/seriespage/sin-covetousness-2-kings-520-27

The Bible not only gives us portraits of God’s grace, as with the healing of Naaman, but it also gives us striking, clear, and up-front portraits of man’s sinfulness and perversion. It’s never a pretty picture, but it is a necessary one if we are to see our sickness and helplessness and turn in repentance to the grace of God. These portraits in Scripture serve as instructions and warnings to turn us to God and a life of godliness and away from a life of ungodliness (cf. Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 10:6, 11, 12).

This story of Gehazi is a sad story, but it is one which happens thousands of times every day, and in the lives of believers to one degree or another. It is a story that stands in strong contrast with the preceding passage where we saw Naaman healed of leprosy as he turned to God in simple faith. But here we see Gehazi struck with leprosy because he turned away from God to blur the truth of the free nature of salvation.

In one story, leprosy portrays sin in its universal scope as it falls upon all men. But in the story of Gehazi we see the specific sin of greed (covetousness and materialism) and the way it destroys the ministries of men and their capacity to serve the Lord.

In the story of Gehazi we see the process and consequences of greed or covetousness which always hinders godliness and godly service. It is the picture of religious hypocrisy, of failure to progress spiritually, of false values that destroy a man’s pursuit of righteousness, of human rationalization that seeks to find good reasons for a bad thing, of rebellion and insubordination to authority, of unfaithfulness or disloyalty, and of the process of regression or the downward spiral of sin (chain sinning). Gehazi’s Sin of Covetousness (5:20-21)

20 But Gehazi, the servant of Elisha the man of God, thought, “Behold, my master has spared this Naaman the Aramean, by not receiving from his hands what he brought. As the LORD lives, I will run after him and take something from him.” 21 So Gehazi pursued Naaman. When Naaman saw one running after him, he came down from the chariot to meet him and said, “Is all well?”

The story is introduced with Gehazi being described as “the servant of Elisha, the man of God.” Here is one of the things that makes this story so sad, and at the same time a warning to each of us. He was not a man without opportunities. As a servant of Elisha, he was also a student of Elisha. He had the privilege of knowing this great man of God. He had the example of Elisha’s life and the message of his lips as a tremendous source of instruction, challenge, learning, and motivation for godliness and a life of service. Yet he failed to capitalize and grow through this privilege.

We can see several important principles of warning and instruction from this passage:

(1) Opportunity and privilege are no guarantee of success. We must take advantage of the opportunities God gives us or we loose the blessings and impact of those opportunities. Just being around the Word and godly examples never guarantee the communication of biblical truth, spiritual growth, and personal godliness. The disciples were with the Lord. They heard His words. They saw His works. Yet they often gained no insight from these events and their hearts became more and more hardened (cf. Mark 6:52). Likewise many sit in a Bible-teaching ministry; they hear the Word taught Sunday after Sunday, but because of their own self-centered desires and commitments, they never allow the Word to get in. They are like a barrel in the midst of the sea with both ends tightly sealed. There is plenty of water all around, but nothing gets in.

(2) Opportunity and privilege must be pursued diligently. (cf. 2 Tim. 2:15; 1 Pet 2:2, “desire earnestly”; 2 Pet. 1:4-5; 1 Tim. 4:7; Heb. 12:14-17). Failure to be diligent will result in the forfeiture of blessings and opportunities. Many Christian have access to all they need for growth and fruitfulness--the Word, solid teaching ministries, the Holy Spirit, etc., but they fail to make use of those resources.

(3) The principle of our treasures. The question is, where is my treasure? Where and in what is my system of values? The Lord carefully warns us in Matthew 6:21, “Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also,” i.e., your devotion, your pursuit, your preoccupation, your goals, and so also your commitment. John White remarks,

Jesus knew the tug of war in our hearts between heavenly and earthly homes. He knew our struggle between money, love and heavenly treasure. He told us we need ‘a single eye.’ He warned that without that single (or sound) eye, we would grope in terrible darkness (Matt 6:22, 23). Torn perpetually in two directions, we could never see clearly the issues confronting us. We would go through life confused and bewildered. Plagued with a sense of guilt and alienation and never sure where we were going.55

We might add, when our vision is double, we are unable to lay up treasurers in heaven. Our lives, like Gehazi’s, will be misdirected, disloyal, and a disaster from God’s viewpoint.

(4) The principle of regression. There is simply no standing still in the pursuit of godliness. Either we are pursuing godliness, drawing close to God, or we are regressing, going downhill. This is one of the most basic principles of the Christian life. Growth is progressive and we never arrive. If we stop the process, we will not simply stand still, we will reverse it and begin to regress. Regression is slow and subtle and deceptive. The signs are there, but we often don’t see them until it’s too late. A person can be a believer who regularly attends church, is around the Word, even involved in Christian service, but on a downhill slide into regression.

The word “discipline” which Paul uses in 1 Timothy 4:7 is the Greek gumnazw meaning “train, exercise, discipline.” It literally means to exercise or train stripped down or naked. The key note implied here is that it is a process which must be continued or we will lose ground. Anyone who has trained as an athlete knows that from experience.

Gumnazw occurs four times in the New Testament. Three are positive (1 Timothy 4:7; Hebrews 5:14; 12:11), and one is negative (2 Peter 2:14). The 2 Peter 2:14 passage is very instructive to our study of Gehazi and the problem of greed. The NASB has “. . . having a heart trained in greed.” The point is, it is very possible to train ourselves in the wrong direction.

As Jerry Bridges points out,

There is a sense in which we are growing in our character every day. The question is in which direction are we growing? Are we growing toward godly character or ungodly character? Are we growing in love or selfishness; in harshness or patience; in greed or generosity; in honesty or dishonesty; in purity or impurity? Every day we train ourselves in one direction or another by the thoughts we think, the words we say, the actions we take, the deeds we do.56

“But Gehazi . . . thought, ‘Behold . . . ’” Literally, the Hebrew says “Gehazi . . . said,” but this expresses not what he said with his lips, but what was going on in his mind. Verse 26 shows us further what was really going on in his mind, as the prophet under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit knew what he was thinking and planning. Gehazi deceived Naaman in order to satisfy his desire for gold and silver because of what he thought it would give--happiness, security, significance.

So we have here another principle which is important in understanding the defection and greed of Gehazi as a further instruction and warning to us.

(5) The principle of our thought patterns. Our thought patterns shape our character, and our character shapes our conduct. If you will notice, there is a definite relationship in these verses between thought patterns, personal character, and conduct. First, we see something of Gehazi’s thought patterns which had helped to move him into the realm of greed or covetousness. From verse 20, it appears he was thinking that because they did something for Naaman, he owed them. This kind of thinking is not only contrary to God’s grace, but has its roots in the attitudes of the world. Then, in verses 21-25 we see his conduct--deception and defection.

There is a very close relationship between our thoughts, our character, and our conduct. Repeated actions (conduct) reveal our inner character and the thought processes (mental attitude) that produced it. Radmacher writes:

“An attitude is a mental and neural state of readiness, organized through experience, exerting a directive or dynamic influence upon the individual’s response to all objects and situations with which it is related.” An attitude, therefore, is a state of mind toward a value. Consequently, it seems to me that any genuinely dynamic Christian life will be the outgrowth of a dynamic Christian attitude, shaped and locked into our thinking by the Word of God. And any faulty, unproductive Christian life will be the outgrowth of attitudes shaped and locked into our thinking by an unholy world system. This is the age-old relationship of cause and effect, root and fruit, a belief that behaves and an attitude which acts.57

Part of the dynamic behind the temptation that Gehazi faced stemmed from his attitude. Radmacher quotes D. G. Kehl who provides an excellent observation about temptation in “Sneaky Stimuli and How to Resist Them” (Christianity Today, January 31, 1975). He writes:

Many Christians have a simplistic concept of temptation that goes something like this: Satan, at a particular moment, flits to our side and whispers “Do it,” and we either do or do not, depending upon our spiritual strength at that moment. We might be more consistently victorious in not “doing it” if we realized that there is much more to temptation that the overt, momentary solicitation to evil and that our strength or weakness at that moment is based upon attitudes that have been forming for weeks, months, even years prior.

We do not fall in a moment; the predisposition to yield to sin has been forming, building, germinating--but not necessarily consciously so. Sin has both a cumulative and a domino effect. Satan plants subtle stimuli, often subliminal ones; he influences an attitude; he wins a “minor” victory--always in preparation for the “big” fall, the iron-bound habit. The words of James support such a view: “Every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust has conceived, it bringeth forth sin . . .” (James 1:14, 15). It is the time between “conceiving” and “bringing forth,” that shadowy interim between stimulus and response, that may be largely subliminal.58

(6) The principle of divided allegiance. In verse 20, Gehazi is described as “the servant of Elisha.” Further, he even refers to Elisha as “my master,” all of which is tremendously suggestive of one of the key issues in the sin and failure of Gehazi and in all of us today to some degree. Divided allegiance, failure to submit to authority in God’s chain of command, is often a sign of slavery to personal aspirations and desires that, if allowed to dominate and control, quickly take the place of God’s authority and His direction over us through the chains of command He has established in Scripture. This naturally leads to discontent with one’s lot in life, followed by actions of rebellion as seen here with Gehazi.

Divided allegiance quickly stifles submission to God for, “No one can serve two masters, . . . you cannot serve God and money” (Matt. 6:24). Let’s face it, if the treasure of my heart is money, or any of the other lusts patterns, then I will be serving myself and not God regardless of how I may appear on the outside. Judas is a classic case in point. He was as phony as a lead nickel, but he gave the appearance of being a disciple, even caring for the poor. But what are lusts patterns generally speaking? They are often nothing more than legitimate desires pursued to the point of idolatry; seeking from the things we desire what we ought to seek only from God.

If we are divided between God as our master and our reputation, our bank roll, our career, our hobbies, our plans, or our desires of any kind, we will end up in deception, acting out a lie. We will deceive ourselves and defect, selling the Lord short in some manner.

Divided allegiance is closely associated with our next principle.

(7) The principle of freedom and contentment. In what are we seeking our significance, security, satisfaction or contentment?

If you remember, the Lord gave us a double warning in Luke 12:15 regarding greed and discontent with whatever God brings into our lives by way of possessions or our place in society. He said “Beware and be on your guard against every form of greed for not even when one has an abundance does his life consist of his possessions.” (emphasis mine)

Contentment is one of the most distinguishing traits of the godly person, because a godly person has his heart focused on good rather than on possessions or position or power. As William Hendriksen has observed so well, “The truly godly person is not interested in becoming rich. He possesses inner resources which furnish riches far beyond that which earth can offer.59

Gehazi became a slave to his lust patterns because he was not content with what God was doing in his life. He was no longer free to be devoted to God, so he became disloyal, unfaithful, and in general, a hindrance to the ministry of Elisha and the grace of God. “Freedom is an inner contentment with what you have. It means to covet only heavenly treasure.”60

What does such a commitment and mental attitude do for us? It frees us to make the right choices, it changes our vision of who we are as sojourners, of why we are here (servants), and it enables us to look at our life in a new way with biblical purposes. Freedom does not consist in doing what I want to do; but in doing what I ought to do and as I was designed to do it by the strength which God gives.

If we do not want our lives to end up like Gehazi’s, we must look at our treasures--those things to which we cling and which have us chained as slaves--and cast them off by making our great goal in life the glory of God and treasures in heaven. May we commit ourselves to God as sojourners on this earth, and citizens of heaven. Let’s release our grip on the detail of life and live for eternity while making the most of this life within the will of God, resting in his care. Then we can sing with John Wesley: “My chains fell off, My heart was free, I rose, went forth, and followed thee.”

(8) The principle of rationalization. Rationalization is seen in Gehazi’s statement, “Behold, my master has spared this Naaman . . .” Elisha had refused to receive anything from Naaman when he was healed for specific biblical and spiritual reasons. He was teaching Naaman the principle of grace and the freeness of God’s salvation. But Gehazi was blind to this and saw it as failing to take from this Gentile that which he thought he rightfully owed the Jews. After all he had raided and stolen from the Jews time and again. He felt it was only just that Elisha accept something. Shouldn’t he? And so goes the mind with its rationalizations when greed is controlling the mind.

(9) The principle of religious hypocrisy. Gehazi’s statement, “As the Lord lives, I will run after him . . .” is a classic illustration of mere external religiosity. He uses the right words, words he had often heard Elisha say, but their spiritual reality were far from his heart. There was no real fear of God in his heart as the Almighty who truly lived, the omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent God who knew his every thought, motive, and goal. The Lord later made this evident through Elisha in verse 26. If he really believed in the aliveness of God, he would have thought again about the motives and reasoning of his heart. Sure, he believed it intellectually, but practically speaking he was acting as though God was dead or at least unconcerned and uninvolved with his personal life.

But oh, how we can be just like this! We learn to use religious words--which too often become trite religious clichs. We bring God into our plans, and prayers, and act as though we are trusting him and following his guidance, which we completely ignore through our greedy rationalizations. And we reject the plain truth of Scripture with its principles and promises.

Let us earnestly pray with David, “Search me, oh God, and know my heart, . . .” Let us genuinely ask God to show us the truth about our hearts, our thinking, our values, and our priorities. The Downward Spiral of Sin (5:22-26)

22 And he said, “All is well. My master has sent me, saying, ‘Behold, just now two young men of the sons of the prophets have come to me from the hill country of Ephraim. Please give them a talent of silver and two changes of clothes.’” 23 And Naaman said, “Be pleased to take two talents.” And he urged him, and bound two talents of silver in two bags with two changes of clothes, and gave them to two of his servants; and they carried them before him. 24 When he came to the hill, he took them from their hand and deposited them in the house, and he sent the men away, and they departed. 25 But he went in and stood before his master. And Elisha said to him, “Where have you been, Gehazi?” And he said, “Your servant went nowhere.” 26 Then he said to him, “Did not my heart go with you, when the man turned from his chariot to meet you? Is it a time to receive money and to receive clothes and olive groves and vineyards and sheep and oxen and male and female servants? “

The downward trend is evident by the processes at work in verses 22-26. First, he sought to convince Naaman that Elisha had experienced an unexpected need (verse 22). By this guise of a sudden need, he managed to extract a generous gift from the grateful commander. Of course, knowing what he did was wrong, Gehazi subsequently concealed his treasure until he would have the opportunity to extract it. He then attempted to sneak back to Elisha’s house unnoticed--only to be confronted by the prophet himself. His master knew all that had transpired! Rather than confess his duplicity, Gehazi, in a continued downward spiral, lied which only worsened the situation.

Proverbs 28:13-14 He who conceals his transgressions will not prosper, But he who confesses and forsakes them will find compassion. 14 How blessed is the man who fears always, But he who hardens his heart will fall into calamity.

Sin is very serious business. Not only does it grieve and quench the Spirit of God (Eph. 4:30; 1 Thess. 5:19) but it hardens the soul (Heb. 3:7-13). Consequently, we are turned over to our own devices so that one thing leads to another; sin snowballs and we hurtle downward moving further and further away from the Lord and fellowship with Him. We become more and more callused and insensitive to God’s Word and the ministry of the Holy Spirit.

Many times we attempt to play Gehazi’s game--we manage to put on a religious front. We say the right words and go through the right motions when in reality the destructive power of the leprosy of greed has us in its grip. Like the numbness experience by a leper, we become insensitive to sin’s grip and we become numb or hardened. Oh, the blindness and hardness that greed can bring on our hearts. We must recognize our sin and confess and renounce it .

Because of his greed, Gehazi became unfaithful to the Lord, to Elisha, and to the principles of God’s grace. Because of his greed, Gehazi wasted his life and the opportunities God gave him. He was an unfaithful steward of God’s grace and His word because, by his deception, he compromised the work of God as being free, without cost. Further, he was unfaithful to Elisha and to his ministry because he was critical of Elisha’s policy and had underminded his ministry to Naaman.

What is faithfulness? Faithfulness means “dependable, reliable, trustworthy, loyal.” But biblically speaking, a faithful person is one who can be counted upon to do what is right through thick and thin because that person is full of faith--faith in the values and priorities of Scripture. Gehazi was full of greed, not faith.

Regarding faithfulness there is such a thing as a fair-weather friend. This kind of person can only be counted on when there is no stress, or when their greed is being satisfied, i.e. their lust patterns for power, position, praise or whatever it is they lust for. But Proverbs 17:17 says, “A friend loves at all times, and a brother is born for adversity.”

There is also a blind, false kind of faithfulness or loyalty. Blind loyalty is actually unfaithfulness. It refuses to admit the mistakes or faults of a friend, a church, or a spouse, and so it refuses to take whatever action is necessary in the best interests of the people involved as well as for the Lord and others. “Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but deceitful are the kisses of an enemy” (Prov. 27:6). Only the true and faithful friend--one full of faith in the precepts of Scripture--will care enough about truth, God’s glory, and what is best for all concerned to do what is right whether it is pleasant or not and whether it is understood by others or not.

Please note the contrast with Elisha in verses 25-27. By contrast Elisha was faithful to God--to truth--but also to Gehazi. To let Gehazi get by with this would be a disservice and a lack of true love and faithfulness. At least now Gehazi could see the nature of his sin and turn back to God in repentance. We are not told if this occurred, but I believe it did (cf. 6:15f with 8:4f).

Another contrast to be observed is the change seen in Naaman.

What a contrast can be seen in the meeting between Naaman and Gehazi! Naaman’s descent from his chariot to meet Elisha’s servant was a mark of his being a changed man. No longer a proud, arrogant person, the grateful, reverent, and humble Aramean came down from his honored place to meet a prophet’s servant. He who had been a fallen, hopeless sinner displayed the true believer’s grace. Contrariwise Gehazi, who had enjoyed all the privileges of his master’s grace, was about to abuse them and fall from that favor.61

Our souls are held by what they hold; Slaves still are slaves in chains of gold; To what ever we may cling, We make it a Soul chaining thing; Whether it be a life, or land, And dear as our right eye or hand.62 Gehazi’s Judgment (5:27)

“Therefore, the leprosy of Naaman shall cleave to you and to your descendants forever.” So he went out from his presence a leper as white as snow.

Accordingly, Elisha announced Gehazi’s punishment: Since Gehazi had compromised the truth of the free nature of God’s grace, Naaman’s leprosy would become Gehazi’s judgment or discipline undoubtedly designed to bring about his repentance. Perhaps it did, because we still see him referred to as “Gehazi, the servant of the man of God” in 2 Kings 8:4-5. This understudy to Elisha who had known such privileged opportunities was banished in disgrace, for he had abused his favored opportunities in an attempt to acquire the details of life for himself.

The story of Gehazi is a sad one, but in keeping with the honesty of the Word, it gives us all an illustration to teach us a much-needed lesson--that the ministry has no place for those who would make merchandise of it. Indeed, this is a truth that should apply to all of life since all our so-called secular work should be viewed as opportunities to minister to people. The Christian businessman has to make a profit to stay in business, but he should never use his business as a vehicle to merchandise people.

The moral and spiritual flaws in his character that one senses in the previous record have surfaced. His basic spiritual insensitivity had betrayed him in the time of testing so that rather than his character being refined, his work was refused.63 Thoughts On Covetousness

The story of Gehazi is one which deals with the sin of covetousness or greed. As such it might be helpful to briefly look at this specific sin.

(1) Covetousness is one of the most devastating sins man commits, one which is the root of most of our sins.

(2) Covetousness is at the core of most of the misery that exists in the human race.

(3) Covetousness is a sin which touches every one of us to some degree. Not one of us can say we escape this sin.

(4) It rears its ugly head in many ways and has many effects.

(5) In fact, it was the first sin. Eve saw what she couldn’t have. She wanted it and took it.

(6) Paul teaches us in Romans 7:7-8 that it was the Old Testament commandment, “Thou shall not covet,” which made him aware of his own sinfulness. Surely what was true of Paul is true of us all.

One day Abraham Lincoln was walking down the street with two small boys who were both crying loudly. A neighbor passing by inquired, “What’s the matter, Abe? Why all the fuss?” Lincoln responded, “The trouble with these lads is what’s wrong with the world; one has a nut and the other wants it!”

This is an old story and a little humorous, but it humorously illustrates a big problem and the oldest one known to man--greed. Definition of Covetousness

Covetousness is a discontent with what we have and an intense desire for something else, something we believe will make us happy or satisfied. As lust, it is often a legitimate desire carried to the point of idolatry which worships the thing lusted for. This is why covetousness or greed is defined by Paul as idolatry twice in his epistles.

Colossians 5:5 Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry.

Ephesians 5:5 For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

Covetousness is not simple appreciation of people or things. Nor is it the desire for something you do not have. Basic and legitimate desires become covetousness when they are uncontrolled and cause us to do the following:

(1) To neglect biblical priorities, ignore the Lord and His will, His leading and His provision, or to ignore the responsibility of pursuing heavenly treasures and biblical priorities, goals, commands, and principles.

(2) When we become unhappy, miserable, angry, bitter, envious, jealous, or critical of others who have what I want.

(3) When it cause us to go to unreasonable or unscriptural limits and extremes to get it such as stealing, adultery, murder, rape, going in debt beyond our financial ability to pay, or so we cannot use our resources effectively as good stewards of God’s gifts (cf. Luke 3:8-14).

Interestingly, the Greek words for covetousness or greed come from pleon, “more” plus ecw, “to have.” It refers to one desirous of having more.

Ephesians 4:28 Let him who steals steal no longer; but rather let him labor, performing with his own hands what is good, in order that he may have something to share with him who has need.

Most people labor in order to have more and more for themselves, and in their pursuit for the so-called good life they not only ignore their responsibilities to be good stewards of God’s grace, but often step on others in their scramble up the ladder of success. Especially in a consumer-oriented society, we don’t tend to labor according to our need, but according to our greed. We constantly seek to raise our standard of living rather than our capacity to give and serve the Lord. The Root of Covetousness

Covetousness has its root in discontent, i.e. seeking our happiness, peace, and well being in the details of life (money, position, power, possessions). But this is mirage which can never be fulfilled and which always escapes us, for only God can give us true happiness and meaning in life. This does not mean the things we grasp won’t give some degree of temporary joy or security or meaning to life. But God tells us in Scripture that if we have food, raiment and shelter, we are to be content (1 Tim. 6:8; Prov. 30:7-9).

The ultimate or root cause of covetousness, therefore, is our failure to pursue godliness and the Lord as our secret source of joy, meaning, stability for life and security (Phil 3:7f; 4:10-13; Matt 6:33; 1 Tim 6:6-12). Forms of Covetousness

Two key passages stress this as a warning to us:

Luke 12:15 And He said to them, “Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed; for not even when one has an abundance does his life consist of his possessions.”

Romans 7:7-8 What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, “You shall not covet.” 8 But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead.

The subtlety of this is seen in the false motives that can drive a person in ministry. We can labor in Christian service out of a spirit of covetousness for things such as: applause (how do I do?), appearance (how do I look?), status (how important am I?), reputation, power, recognition, as well as for money and possessions and pleasure. Negative Effects of Covetousness

Scripture warns us about the devastating consequences of covetousness in 1 Timothy 6:6-12 and 17-19. The love of money refers to the sin of covetousness. As such, covetousness becomes the root--the source of all sorts of evil. Furthermore, covetousness blinds. Not only does it deceive us, but it will harden us against the Lord if we do not deal with it. Compare Ephesians 4:22 (lusts of deceit) with 17-19 (note the words “excluded,” “callous,” and “given over to sensuality”) and Heb. 3:13, “hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.”

In the deluded belief that things can give security, satisfaction, and significance, it also hardens the soul. Consequently, a further product, as seen with Gehazi and Judas, is unfaithfulness, rationalization, criticism of others, and religiosity. It causes men to lie, steal, defraud, murder, commit adultery or fornication, and all kinds of evil, especially the neglect of spiritual values and priorities.

The rich fool was not a fool for harvesting abundant crops. He was a fool for letting his crops fill his horizon and determine his lifestyle. He was a slave to barns and grain, and seems to have had no interest in God. When God’s awful voice awakened him from his dreams saying, “Fool, this night your soul is required of you; and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?” he had to leave his barns and enter the Presence naked. Had he sent anything on in advance? Jesus didn’t say. Presumably he had forwarded nothing. His heart was back among his mountains of grain.

But notice the conclusions we have reached. The thrust of Jesus’ teaching does not deal with the virtues of poverty or the sin of riches. Rather he seeks to show us first the greater value of heavenly treasure and the folly of seeking earthly. Then he warns us of the seductive power of riches, the love which draws our hearts away from him and renders us incapable of serving him. Finally he upbraids us with the unbelief which underlies our anxiety about our material needs.64

There is not only a great delusion about the things we covet, but a subtle futility that is a part of Satan’s delusion that the things we covet will meet our need and make us happy. Surely, this is part of the message of Solomon in Ecclesiastes with his “futility of futilities.” This futility carries with it a stroke of serious irony. Why? Because it is full of surprises. Think about it for a moment. The things we value or treasure consistently prove false; efforts that should succeed in giving us whatever--happiness, security, satisfaction--come to failure; the pleasures we think will satisfy ironically just increase our thirst. How ironic! What futile irony! Is this not the fabric of life when it is lived independently of God?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-07   8:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1059. To: Mcgoanajm. Fred Mertz (#1058)

(1) Opportunity and privilege are no guarantee of success. We must take advantage of the opportunities God gives us or we loose the blessings and impact of those opportunities.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-07   8:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1060. To: A K A Stone (#1058)

root of covetousness

starvation while your neighbor eats like a king.

next....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-07   8:30:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1061. To: Fred Mertz (#1057) (Edited)

Amazing!

And over the last 30 years....hmmmm...let's see.

30 years ago would be.....1982.

1982 would be the Reagan/Greenspan Commodity Trading Act which authorized the Something for Nothing Synthetic Debt Derivatives/ Synthetic investment Vehicles (see Enron/JPMorgan for details;).

Mow at $1.75 Quadrillion and counting.

1982: The Day after this bill was signed the markets began their furious rally,

from 1000 to today's 12 200, even as no sign of the recession of 1981 ending was in sight.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-07   8:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1062. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Continuing claims printed at 3,293K, missing expectations of 3,250K, and down from an upward, of course, revised 3,259K. But the most disturbing observation is that in one week alone, a whopping 104,600 people hit the 99-week cliff, and stopped collecting extended unemployment benefits...."

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Blessed are the poor for they shall inherit the earth*

*unless guilty of the root of covetousness....then all offers are null and void. Sorry....sucks to be you.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-07   9:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1063. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#229. To: Robin (#225)

"The main reason is the Koch brothers' money. "

The Main Reason is Systemic Election Fraud.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-07   9:55:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1064. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#1054)

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LOL!

EVERYONE IS in this FOOL.

LOL!

I don't take lectures on theology from heathens or pagans or God haters.

LOL!

NOW you are reduced to TRYING to question my all too flawed faith?

LMAO!!!!!!!!

TRY to keep up fool, the commandment says not to take OUR Lord's Name in vain.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

BUT as a favor to you, I'd suggest that you quit worrying about my salvation and start thinking about your own SCUM.

LOL!

YEAH! THAT'S gonna happen. /NOT!

PISS OFF you vile piece of shit.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-07   13:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1065. To: mcgowanjm (#1055)

You write like chickens type mctoejam, however the thoughts and ideas behind your gibberish would never make even the chicken cut.

However your specious blather passes as high literature with your co-SCUM.

Eh mctoejam?

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL!

I know EXACTLY WHO and WHAT YOU ARE SCUM.

You are the poster child for USEFUL IDIOTS.

DisHONORABLE SCUM such as YOU can't even tell the difference between the PEOPLE and the gooberment.

You told all of US EXACTLY who and what YOU are SCUM, when you ranked on your own brother's ultimate sacrifice at ANZIO as to being an action of "no extraordinary courage".

I don't care why you are SCUM.

It's enough to know that you ARE, without any doubt, SCUM.

It's not my opinion of you that is important SCUM, it's God's opinion that counts.

I don't speak for HIM.

But I'd feel safe in advising you to die in nomex skivvies SCUM.

PISS OFF you vile piece of shit.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-07   13:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1066. To: mcgowanjm (#1056)

.

Unable to defeat, or even move me in the field; you do what all of you libTURD SCUM do.

LOL!

You then TRY to color me as having some basic original sin like being a racist. As if having a Confederate battle flag on your truck would be an act of racism.

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see SCUM, many of us had ANCESTORS who fought for the South. Our families fought under THAT flag.

It's HISTORY SCUM.

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a South Vietnamese Flag on my truck you gibbering libTURD SCUM.

LMAO!!!!!!!!

Which to a libTURD cunt such as you is just as bad as the battle flag, eh mctoejam?

LOL!

I wouldn't PISS on you if you were on fire SCUM!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{giggles}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

SCUM!

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-07   13:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1067. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Change a few words and this is exactly how the Wisconsin selection has been handled:

"June 07, 2012

Reflections on a Bestial Culture, Ready and Eager for Slaughter (I)

The New York Times published its lengthy article entitled "Secret 'Kill List' Proves a Test of Obama's Principles and Will" on May 29, 2012. Today, a mere nine days later, it has already vanished almost completely from national discussion. Even in the days immediately following the article's publication, the discussion that occurred was most notable for how limited it was and for how few people took part in it. I confess that I did not exhaustively research such commentary about the article as was offered, for it quickly became clear that many writers and observers said nothing at all about it or reacted as if nothing of unusual significance had occurred. "

-Arthur silber http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-08   9:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1068. To: mcgowanjm (#1067)

The thing that is most hilarious about how Mad Dog is is that he is never satisfied.

He left guys like you alone while he had Mininggold, Lucysmom and others to whine and snarl about. But when he cut down his pool if people in his estimation are not fit to share a forum with him -- either by driving them away or by putting people like myself on bozo and declaring victory -- he moves to the next target of opportunity.

When he is down to being the only one in this tiny forum he sees in it; it will be entertaining indeed to see how he harasses himself into leaving.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-06-08   10:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1069. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Noting nothing from the Afghans via USSAMSM.

"It is said that hundreds of American soldiers are killed in the operation. Nearly 400 troops were said to have assembled in the two halls for lunch which were completely flattened by the initial powerful explosion while several other facilities were also severely damaged. According to witnesses, several helicopters made 18 trips from the scene ferrying away the casualties to Bagram airbase even though a huge sprawling medical facility also exists inside the same base.

Due to the sensitive timing of the attack which occurred as Obama is running his campaign in a bid for re-election and while the world media is talking about the dissolution of the strength of the Taliban, therefore the enemy tried its best to keep a lid on the realities and keep them away from the public view. But if we look at the reality, we can see that they can control the information flow however the nature of the attack which has already taken place cannot be altered. The American troops which were killed are now dead and they can never be brought back to life with misleading propaganda."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-08   11:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1070. To: Mad Dog (#1066)

LMFAO

Nerve hit....continue fire on previous co ordinates.....;}

The ARVN battle flag just as good.....8D

Glad to know you're not a racist...how about women?

Are they 2nd or 3rd class.

and fuck you very much....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-08   11:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1071. To: All (#1069)

the time for the attack neared (01:00 pm local time), the searches and patrols of the enemy decreased to the extent that at the time of the launch of operation, all the American troops and their tanks left the surrounding areas and entered the base.

Mawlawi Sahib Shamsullah, a resident of Paktia and tasked with the VBIED sacrificed his luxurious life in Khaleej, a thriving business, bounties of the world and the love of his 4 children for Allah.

The said person, who was familiar with the surrounding area, drove his explosive packed vehicle with absolute assurance right up to the American base and detonated it at the appropriate time. This blast was not an ordinary blast. The nearly ten ton explosion completely flattened the enemy facilities in which the American invaders were feeding, set several areas on fire and completely destroyed a transport airplane which had parked nearby only a few moments before the blast.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-08   11:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1072. To: All (#1071)

The USSA is taking greater losses now than during the worst parts of VietNam.

vietNam wasn't strategic and look at the damage caused by our retreat.

The Afghans are strategic....;}

Out by Xmas.

SARIPUL, Jun. 08 – Last night, Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate participated in a successful armed offensive amid operation Al-Farooq on the security belt of Saripul provincial prison and freed hundreds of prisoners.

Details of the operation state that a group of Mujahideen initially attacked the surrounding enemy security posts while a second group proceeded towards the main prison wall, blew a hole with explosives and overran the check post inside. It is said that some 13 enemy troops were also killed in the attack and dozens of others wounded.

170 Mujahideen inmates including governors and group commanders were later freed and transferred to a safe location.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-08   11:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1073. To: mcgowanjm (#1070)

Absurd hate filled self serving libTURD delusions and gibberish as per usual.

to wit that IF you dare disagree with a libTURD, according to THEM, you are a raciest or a sexyiest or a fill in dotted pejorative ....

PISS OFF you vile piece of libTURD shit.

.

Unable to defeat, or even move me in the field; you do what all of you libTURD SCUM do.

LOL!

You then TRY to color me as having some basic original sin like being a racist. As if having a Confederate battle flag on your truck would be an act of racism.

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see SCUM, many of us had ANCESTORS who fought for the South. Our families fought under THAT flag.

It's HISTORY SCUM.

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a South Vietnamese Flag on my truck you gibbering libTURD SCUM.

LMAO!!!!!!!!

Which to a libTURD cunt such as you is just as bad as the battle flag, eh mctoejam?

LOL!

I wouldn't PISS on you if you were on fire SCUM!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{giggles}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

SCUM!

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-08   15:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1074. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#248. To: All (#0)

Javad Oji, managing director of the National Iranian Gas Co., said talks with Iraqi officials in Baghdad resulted in agreements between the countries to move ahead with a natural gas pipeline, the Fars News Agency reports. Iranian Oil Minister Rostam Qassemi had said Iran could supply as much as 880 million cubic meters of natural gas to Iraq to help fuel two power plants. Iraq struggles with electricity availability."

Iraq struggles with electricity availability."

So a Martian would say, 'So electricity is just now making it's way to Iraq. Wonder why it took so long.....'

"The fact is that Western economic growth over the last few decades has been fundamentally underpinned by access to cheap oil. Sometimes, we would engage in hard-handed "negotiations" to secure oil in other parts of the world, and, other times, we would just steal it."

#

# 48-3-April 7-4 liberty.hypermart.net/Arc...03Archives/48-3-April.htm

About 10 armored units including 4 tanks were lost in this area yesterday. ... 'No sign' of US in Baghdad April 6, 2003 Baghdad There was no sign of a US ..... The city's power has been cut off and it is under sustained bombardment from US ...

And it never came back.....the end.....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-09   7:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1075. To: Mad Dog, All (#1073)

I have a South Vietnamese Flag on my truck you gibbering libTURD SCUM.

Believe it or not, this is one of the few times, maybe the first that MD has actually provided a Fact....;}

"You then TRY to color me as having some basic original sin like being a racist. As if having a Confederate battle flag on your truck would be an act of racism."

But HERE's the gem of info....;}

MD, having No way of thinking past High School Formal Level, automatically equates the Confederate Battle Flag with Racism.

But Then puts the Fact of the 'ARVN battle flag' up.

When, at my local WalMart, it would come as No Surprise to see BOTH on a truck...

Md thinks he's more sophisticated by Just having the ARVN battle flag.

So tell me, MD. What's the significance of the ARVN battle flag?

And of course, fuck you very much....sincerely.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-09   7:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1076. To: All (#1075)

By Comstock Partners

“A 30-50 year virtuous cycle of credit expansion which has produced outsize paranormal returns for financial assets—-bonds, stocks, real estate and commodities alike—-is now deleveraging because of excessive risk and the price of money at the zero-bound. We are witnessing the death of abundance and the borning of austerity, for what may be a long, long time.”

This quote from Bill Gross’s February comment for Pimco neatly summarizes in one sentence the main theme we have been emphasizing in our own comments for many years. Periods followed by credit crises are almost always followed by many years of below average growth, anemic expansions and frequent recessions.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-09   8:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1077. To: All (#1076)

“A 30-50 year virtuous cycle of credit expansion which has produced outsize paranormal returns for financial assets—-bonds, stocks, real estate and commodities alike—-is now deleveraging because

we can no longer pull outsized returns of oil from the following ex colonies.

The same ex colonies which gained their 'independence' o about 30-50 years ago....;}

http://theautomaticearth.com/Energy/welcome-to-the-no-growth-paradigm.html

"The sheer level of 20th-21st century economic, political and military intervention by Western powers in countries that exceed the 12% "Norway threshold" is clear, and most of the time these forms of intervention lasted well beyond WWII. Even countries that were never technically colonized or invaded, such as Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Oman, have operated with very strong ties to Western powers for many years. Most of the the other countries, of course, were part of the equally imperialistic Soviet Union until its demise around 1990.

Who could have known that a continuous imperialistic presence in these regions over the course of decades would leave some of the "nastiest, most dangerous" countries in its wake?? Perhaps the same people who could have known that decades of reckless credit creation would destroy the internal organs of developed economies. BUT, now, we are approaching the end game of Western finance and imperialism. Just like the former Soviet Union, the Western imperial powers are now over-leveraged, over-indebted, over-extended and over-developed.

These powers were given a little shove and now we can watch them topple. First, we witness the wrath of a banking crisis that makes 0-1% annual economic growth seem like a miracle, and makes the combined central authorities of the Western world seem impotent. That is exactly where we are now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-09   8:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1078. To: Ferret Mike (#1068)

MD's been after me from the getgo.

It's just that he thought yukon was doing such a good job....8D

Yukon's 'I'm out (ing) of here moment' took the wind out of MD's sails....momentarily.

But you can see Md winding down now.

He's being ID'ed for who what he is....

Ex. MD does Not cuss. Can't. His religion forbids it. Major clue right there.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-09   8:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1079. To: Ferret Mike (#1068)

Example 2:

"#1052. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#1047)

Power Always trumps religion

LOL!

So says the FOOL in his heart.

The FOOL who has no idea what true power is.

"So says the FOOL in his heart."

sounds like it's straight out of a sermon, eh?

'true power'.....An evangelical phrase if I've ever heard one.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-09   9:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1080. To: All (#1079)

Taliban kill 4 French troops in Afghanistan Taliban kill 4 French troops in Afghanistan NATO forces in Afghanistan say four international service members have been killed in an insurgent attack in the country's east.More >> A Taliban suicide bomber disguised as a woman wearing a burqa blew himself up in a market in eastern Afghanistan on Saturday, killing four French troops, officials said.More >>

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-09   9:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1081. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The exit pollster’s MO never changes. In the recall, the pundits said it was “too close to call”. I’m quite sure that Barrett was winning, but the media knew the fix was in so they had to keep it close. They knew the actual exit poll numbers would not see the light of day. But they sure called it quickly for Walker, didn’t they?

richardcharnin.wordpress....n-unlikely-recorded-vote/

The pollster’s have had plenty of experience in adjusting exit polls to match the vote count.

Great minds, huh...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-09   10:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1082. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And let’s not forget the 2000 selection. The media told us the election was close in Florida and nationwide. But they did not tell us that Gore won the 1) National Exit Poll (13,108 respondents)by 48.5%-46.3%, a 2.7 million margin. 2) 50 state exit polls (58,000 respondents)by 50.8%-45.5%, a 6 million margin. 3) Florida exit poll (1,816 respondents)by 53.4%-43.6%. a 500,000 vote margin.

The media myth is that 1) Gore won the national popular vote by 540,000 votes. 2) Bush won Florida by 537 votes.

All we know is that the Florida recount was halted by the Supreme Court.

Gore won exit polls in the following states – but lost all in the official vote. He needed just ONE to win the election. 2000: AL AR AZ CO FL GA MO NC NV TN TX VA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-09   12:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1083. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#1075)

I have a South Vietnamese Flag on my truck you gibbering libTURD SCUM. Believe it or not, this is one of the few times, maybe the first that MD has actually provided a Fact....;}

"You then TRY to color me as having some basic original sin like being a racist. As if having a Confederate battle flag on your truck would be an act of racism."

But HERE's the gem of info....;}

MD, having No way of thinking past High School Formal Level, automatically equates the Confederate Battle Flag with Racism.

But Then puts the Fact of the 'ARVN battle flag' up.

When, at my local WalMart, it would come as No Surprise to see BOTH on a truck...

Md thinks he's more sophisticated by Just having the ARVN battle flag.

So tell me, MD. What's the significance of the ARVN battle flag?

And of course, fuck you very much....sincerely.....8D

LOL!

Same old libTURD play book eh mctoejam?

Hey mctoejam, feel free to quote me LYING about ANYTHING, EVER, on this or any other site creep.

That's what you libTURD SCUM do isn't it SCUM?

You make unsubstantiated charges about people you despise such as me.

You have to LIE about my behavior! as if SCUM such as you are important enough for me to give a rusty F what SCUM such as you "think" about ANYTHING!

LOL!

I agree that thinking that a Confederate battle flag indicates "racism" is "high school thinking" mctoejam.

But, ...that's how you libTURDS "think" SCUM.

Who are you talking to mctoejam?

Yourself? Your HERD?

There is no such thing as an "ARVN battle flag" you ignorant libTURD SCUM.

That you would even TRY to make the Republic of South Vietnam "the same" as the Confederate States of America shows what absurd little miserable, ignorant, foul, LYING libTURD SCUM you are.

I'd expect no less from a person who hates their own brother, (who he claims died at ANZIO "with no extraordinary courage"), and PISSES all over HIS memory as a matter of "politics" as usual.

You want to know the difference between the Flag of the REPUBLIC of SOUTH VIETNAM and the CONFEDERATE BATTLE FLAG in my life mctoejam?

My great great grand father fought for SOUTH CAROLINA, for the Confederacy, against an out of control feral gooberment.

I fought in support of the right of Republic of South Vietnam to exist and against the INVASION of the Republic of South Vietnam by communist tyrants.

LOL!

You don't pass the physical to fuck me SCUM, you'd have to HUMAN, you'd have to be FEMALE, and you'd have to be a decent person.

That's THREE STRIKES mctoejam.

You're OUT!

SCUM!

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't PISS on you if you were on FIRE , SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-09   14:33:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1084. To: mcgowanjm (#1038)

An old gentleman lived alone in New Jersey. He wanted to plant his annual tomato garden, but it was very difficult work, as the ground was hard. His only son, Vincent, who used to help him, was in prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and described his predicament:

Dear Vincent, I am feeling pretty sad because it looks like I won't be able to plant my tomato garden this year. I'm just getting too old to be digging up a garden plot. I know if you were here my troubles would be over. I know you would be happy to dig the plot for me, like in the old days.

Love, Papa

A few days later he received a letter from his son. Dear Papa, Don't dig up that garden. That's where the bodies are buried. Love, Vinnie

At 4 a.m. the next morning, FBI agents and local police arrived and dug up the entire area without finding any bodies. They apologized to the old man and left. That same day the old man received another letter from his son.

Dear Papa, Go ahead and plant the tomatoes now. That's the best I could do under the circumstances. Love you, Vinnie

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-09   19:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1085. To: redleghunter (#1084)

That one was good!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-10   4:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1086. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Afghanistan Withdrawal Date The announcement came just hours after four French soldiers were killed by a suicide attack by John Glaser, June 09, 2012 Print This | Share This

Verifying earlier reports, France troops in Afghanistan will begin an early withdrawal in July and complete it by the end of this year, French President Francois Hollande has said.

The confirmed early withdrawal date comes just hours after four French soldiers were killed and five others wounded in a Taliban suicide attack.

________

Taliban says 14 French killed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-10   8:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1087. To: redleghunter (#1084)

Yes. That one was good.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-10   8:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1088. To: Mad Dog (#1083)

You make unsubstantiated charges about people you despise such as me.

You have to LIE about my behavior! as if SCUM such as you are important enough for me to give a rusty F what SCUM such as you "think" about ANYTHING!

Like picking out corn from goose shit.

First. You just Substantiated (nice long word, MD. Some college there likely. Or run in's with the law...U pic Em....;} my claim that you can't cuss.

Serious Religious Dogm going on there....8D

Second.

But HERE's the gem of info....;}

MD, having No way of thinking past High School Formal Level, automatically equates the Confederate Battle Flag with Racism.

But Then puts the Fact of the 'ARVN battle flag' up."

When arguing my Quotes. Use My Quotes.....8D

"But HERE's the gem of info....;}

MD, having No way of thinking past High School Formal Level, automatically equates the Confederate Battle Flag with Racism.

But Then puts the Fact of the 'ARVN battle flag' up.

"There is no such thing as an "ARVN battle flag" you ignorant libTURD SCUM.

The Flag of the ARVN is an Eagle with the S Vietnam flag shield over the S Vietnam Flag.

The Best they could do with the 21 year timeline that they had to work with...

LMFAO...8D

"Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Army of the Republic of Viet Nam - ARVN (Vietnamese: Quân Lực Việt Nam Cộng Hòa - QLVNCH), sometimes referred to as the South Vietnamese Army (SVA), was the Ground Forces branch of the Republic of Vietnam’s Military Forces, the official military of the Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam) which existed from 1955 until the fall of Saigon in 1975.[1]

That you would even TRY to make the Republic of South Vietnam "the same" as the Confederate States of America shows what absurd little miserable, ignorant, foul, LYING libTURD SCUM you are.

I'd expect no less from a person who hates their own brother, (who he claims died at ANZIO "with no extraordinary courage"), and PISSES all over HIS memory as a matter of "politics" as usual.

WTF!? You are insane. MD. Quotes please. You asshole....;}

You want to know the difference between the Flag of the REPUBLIC of SOUTH VIETNAM and the CONFEDERATE BATTLE FLAG in my life mctoejam?

The fucking asshole going to enlighten us now....;}

My great great grand father fought for SOUTH CAROLINA, for the Confederacy, against an out of control feral gooberment.

LMFAO So Your Family started the Civil War. Thanx a fucking lot. Leave the Feds alone at Ft Sumter and the Confederacy becomes a nation...8D

And so the FINALE GRAND:

I fought in support of the right of Republic of South Vietnam to exist and against the INVASION of the Republic of South Vietnam by communist tyrants. "

Everything you need to know, folks, Right there. Wrong from EVERY andgle.

Racist.

Xenophobic.

History( MD quoting the Out of Control 'Feral Gooberment' for his details....;}

Economic

& Political.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-10   9:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1089. To: All (#1088) (Edited)

And Anyone South of (plus parts of Indiana;) the Mason Dixon Line can go to ANy Wal Mart parking lot and easily find a vehicle with BOTH the Confederate Battle Flag and the ARVN flag.

One and the same Mind MEME.....of the USSA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-10   9:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1090. To: mcgowanjm (#1089)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-10   9:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1091. To: A K A Stone (#0)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/wa...-spain-120931371.html?l=1

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. stocks will get a lift on Monday after euro zone finance ministers agreed to lend Spain up to 100 billion euros ($125 billion) to help its battered banks.

The surprisingly large amount of aid removes a huge cloud that has been hanging over financial markets, with investors fearing that a banking crisis in euro zone's fourth-largest economy could have compounded the currency bloc's troubles with Greece.

Though

****the exact amount to be lent will be decided in just over a week,*****

My Edit: A week.....HMMMmmmm....now what if anything is happening in a week?

8D

striking a deal now means Spain has added support in case Greece's June 17 elections throw financial markets into a tailspin. "This is a major step in avoiding a contagion," said Tim Speiss, partner-in-charge of EisnerAmper's Personal Wealth Advisors Group in New York. "The amount is pretty high, higher-than-expected.

Although we need to get more details,

MY Edit: Details coming in a week, or as the Market reacts badly, which ever comes first....8D

....at least for equity markets in the U.S. and around the world, this definitely eases short-term fears," Speiss said. U.S. stocks are coming off their best week of 2012, in large part due to expectations that something would be done for Spain's banks.

Now compare to reality:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/he...everyone+drops+to+zero%29

"Well that didn't take long. The ink on the #Spailout is not dry yet (well technically there is no ink, because none of the actual details of the Spanish banking system rescue are even remotely known, and likely won't be because when it comes to answering where the money comes from there simply is no answer)

.....and we already have an answer to one of our questions. Recall that mere hours ago we asked: "We also wonder how will Ireland feel knowing that it has to suffer under backbreaking austerity in exchange for Troika generosity, while Spain gets away scott free." We now know.

From the AFP: "Ireland wants to renegotiate its rescue plan to benefit from the same treatment as Spain, which looks set to win a bailout for its banks without any broader economic reforms in return, European sources said on Saturday."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-10   10:18:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1092. To: All (#1091)

EU nannycrats are marching forward with plans without regards to Germany or German constitutional issues.

The plan is dead on arrival because it includes eurobonds and other questionable items, but nannycrats do not care about such issues.

List of Nannycrats Working on the Master Nannyplan....

globaleconomicanalysis.bl...conomic+Trend+Analysis%29

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-10   10:19:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1093. To: A K A Stone (#1090)

Need the Transcript.

I don't download vids.

Slows down my computer.

Thanx,

Jim ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-10   10:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1094. To: Fred Mertz, TooConservative (#1085)

Mr. Rogers remix:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-10   10:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1095. To: redleghunter (#1094)

Noticing the Many groups not represented here.

There's a reason.

But the zio fundys are here in plenty, eh?

And how about the USS Liberty and LBJ's recall of jet fighters back to the USS Saratoga....inconvenient that....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-10   10:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1096. To: redleghunter (#1094)

O and I bet you have both/either the ARVN Battle Flag the Confederate Battle Flag on your bumper as well.

Probably what got you agitated this AM, eh, redleg?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-10   10:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1097. To: A K A Stone (#1090)

Congrats Germany: you have now opened the Pandora's box of infinite moral hazard, bailout renegotiations and unconditional rescues. Anything less than a pari passu bailout to Spain's, which the economy minister touted as having no political strings attached, will incite a revolution.

Oh, and the IMF has just been made obsolete.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-10   10:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1098. To: mcgowanjm (#1097)

Wake up it is time for summer school little boy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-10   10:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1099. To: mcgowanjm (#1096)

O and I bet you have both/either the ARVN Battle Flag the Confederate Battle Flag on your bumper as well.

Probably what got you agitated this AM, eh, redleg?

;}

You must have put too much sugar in your coffee this morning. Post 1094 was not making a statement. How you get ARVN flag and Stars and Bars I have no idea.

You should try mixing in the sugar after pouring the coffee.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-10   15:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1100. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#1088)

LOL!

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

LOL!

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because it's well it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

LOL!

You are the just typical libTURD loser SCUM.

KEEP GIBBERING AWAY SCUM!

It shows more than any other thing what a vile insane gibbering cowardly FOOL you are.

============

To ALL people who LOVE LIBERTY, look at what this SCUM says and "thinks".

Does "he" speak for you?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-10   15:27:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1101. To: mcgowanjm (#1093)

Slows down my computer.

What do you use a TRS-80

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-10   16:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1102. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"

[L]ittle sign exists of a challenge in American foreign policy debates to the principles and assumptions of an international interventionism motivated by belief in a special national mission. The country might find itself with a new administration in 2009 which provides a less abrasive and more courteous version of the American pursuit of world hegemony, but one still condemned by the inherent impossibility of success.

The intellectual and material commitments made during the past half-century of American military, bureaucratic, and intellectual investment in global interventionism will be hard to reverse. The Washington political class remains largely convinced that the United States supplies the essential structure of international security, and that a withdrawal of American forces from their expanding network of overseas military bases,

or disengagement from present American interventions into the affairs of many dozens of countries, would destabilize the international system and produce unacceptable consequences for American security.

Why this should be so is rarely explained. -- William Pfaff, "Manifest Destiny: A New Direction for America"

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   7:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1103. To: A K A Stone (#1101)

Slows down my computer.

What do you use a TRS-80

It's better than a typewriter....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   7:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1104. To: Mad Dog (#1100)

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

LMGODDAMNAO.....;}....how's that for brief.....8D

So now you're teaching English 101.....at Baylor.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   7:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1105. To: redleghunter (#1099)

You must have put too much sugar in your coffee this morning. Post 1094 was not making a statement.

So in honor of Professor MadDog,

how about a synopsis of the Mr Rodger's vid and how it relates.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   7:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1106. To: A K A Stone (#1101) (Edited)

Poisonous pedagogy is a phrase I use to refer to the kind of parenting and education aimed at breaking a child's will and making that child into an obedient subject by means of overt or covert coercion, manipulation, and emotional blackmail. -- Alice Miller, The Truth Will Set You Free

There is a good deal else that would not exist without "poisonous pedagogy."

powerofnarrative.blogspot...tial-culture-ii-when.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   7:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1107. To: All (#1106) (Edited)

This makes about the 18th time....

And HERE they are:

The Rogue's Gallery of USSAMSM disinfo AgitProp:

Everyone TAKE A BOW:

News for AL qaeda number 2 killed

Zee News‎ - 4 hours ago The United States said Libi, who was al Qaeda's number two, was killed in a drone strike, in the weightiest blow to the terrorist group, since the ...

1. al-Qaeda No 2 killed: White House New York Daily News‎ - 4 days ago

2. Al-Qaeda's No. 2 leader killed in US airstrike Washington Post‎ - 5 days ago

Al-Qaeda's No. 2 leader killed in U.S. airstrike - The Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/...../.../gJQAHTZiFV_story.h...

5 days ago – Al-Qaeda's No. 2 leader, Abu Yahya al-Libi, the charismatic commander who helped steer the terrorist group after Osama bin Laden's death ... # White House confirms that Al-Libi, al-Qaida's No. 2, killed in Pakistan ... news.yahoo.com/blogs/.../...et-u-163347720.h... this publicly. Undo 5 days ago – From the blog The Lookout: Abu Yahya al-Libi, al-Qaida's second in command, was killed in Monday's strike in Khassu Khel village in North ...

Al-Qaida number two Libi killed in Pakistan drone strike | World ... www.guardian.co.uk › News › World news › Pakistan

5 days ago – Announcement follows official reprimand from Islamabad over recent increase in attacks by remote-controlled aircraft.

U.S. strike said to target al-Qaeda's No. 2 - The Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/...../.../gJQAHTZiFV_story.h...

5 days ago – An American drone strike in northwestern Pakistan early Monday killed al-Qaeda's No. 2 leader, the charismatic and influential jihadist known ... # al Qaeda's number two killed - CBS News Video

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7410802nNew5 days ago CBS News video: al Qaeda's number two killed - CBS News Consultant Jere Van Dyk discusses the death ...

Was it just days ago, when watching USSAMSM that they Lead OFf the news with the breathless BREAKING that Al Qaeda's Number had been killed?

I turned the channel immediately knowing the Story was False.

However many Days later.

NOT ONE USSAMSM will EVER say that the BREAKING story was wrong.....

LMFAO....8D

1. 'Slain' al Qaeda No 2 still alive?

That's the Lead on that Google above.....;}

Al-Qaeda Websites: Libi Still Alive (Again) New Video From 'Slain' al-Qaeda Leader Expected Soon by Jason Ditz, June 10, 2012

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   8:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1108. To: All (#1107)

In a culture that was healthy to any significant degree, the recent NYT article

about the Obama administration's institutionalized, systematic program of murder by secret decree would have resulted in a deafening, sustained, nationwide howl of outrage and denunciation.

In a healthy country -- and here, I use "healthy" in the sense described in an essay from four years ago: "to designate those goals and motives that can generally be described as supportive of individual life and happiness" -- the government's announcement that it regularly murders innocent human beings, wherever they may be in the world, for any reason the government wishes,

and that the murderers are proud of their murders and plan to continue them indefinitely, would have propelled millions of people into the streets.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   8:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1109. To: mcgowanjm (#1105)

It does not relate. The entire point. This thread is a continuous stream of consciousness. No such stream should be without Mr. Rogers.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   8:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1110. To: redleghunter (#1109)

He didn't watch Mr. Rogers. This is where he received his education.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-11   8:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1111. To: All (#1108)

Spain's bank bailout bought a few months of liquidity, but at what cost? Well, the cost can be seen perfectly on the chart below, which shows Spanish and Italian sovereign bond spreads literally exploding.

Recall what we said yesterday: "Keep a close eye on Spanish sovereign bonds at the moment when the bond market understands what just happened, and once the euphoria over the very short-term bailout of insolvent Spanish banks passes. Because a month from today another €100 billion will be required, then another €100, and so on." The moment can be seen very distinctly on the chart below: it happened at 2:00am Eastern, and the bond market has not looked back since. We are likely hours away from screams for the ECB to come and re-bail out a just bailed out Spain."

-ZH

www.zerohedge.com/news/so...everyone+drops+to+zero%29

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=CL&cot=067651&p=m5

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   8:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1112. To: A K A Stone (#1110)

That's pretty funny.

Looks like Baylor's Campus.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   8:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1113. To: A K A Stone (#1110)

He didn't watch Mr. Rogers. This is where he received his education.

Stonie, you will excuse me if I did not watch the full 9 plus minutes of the communist, gender neutral, radical tele tubbies:)

Just trying to figure out which one of the below is Jim:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   8:49:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1114. To: redleghunter (#1109) (Edited)

It does not relate. The entire point. This thread is a continuous stream of consciousness. No such stream should be without Mr. Rogers.

Hey, Red

Thanxs for keeping track of my stream. It shows you care.

And keep me posted....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   8:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1115. To: redleghunter (#1113)

Clue:

I'm black and muslim.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   8:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1116. To: mcgowanjm (#1112)

That's pretty funny.

Looks like Baylor's Campus.....;}

Baylor's campus is just fine. More like NYU's campus I think. Especially the purple one who carries a purse now and then:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   8:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1117. To: redleghunter (#1116) (Edited)

Baylor's campus is just fine.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ....8D

Just exactly what I thought.

And lovely bush43 Int'l on the Brazos River.

do they play sports alot at Baylor?

You know, I don't think there's been a baseball game where TWO players have been HBP back to back by TWO different pitchers and the Tying, then winning runs have been forced home as a result.....

GO HOGS!!!!!!!! 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   8:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1118. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#1115)

Clue:

I'm black and muslim.....;}

Last month you were gay and gnostic. Make up your mind! So we have a stream of consciousness from a gay, gnostic, black Muslim. Stonie is really running a tolerant site:) To the gay atheists on LP I usually tell them they are down in the count 0 and 2:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   8:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1119. To: redleghunter (#1118)

Clue:

I'm black and muslim.....;}

Last month you were gay and gnostic.

Good memory, professor.

And Mad Dog must teach English at Baylor as well.

You're beginning to catch on....keep at it....it'll come to you....;}

HINT:

What do all these race, religions, creeds, have in common?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   8:58:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1120. To: All (#1119)

If someone tells you he believes he has the "right" to murder anyone at all -- including you -- you cannot demand that the person who might be the next target should sit back and hope for the best or try to "reform" the monster, especially when the monster regards his murders as good, even noble.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   9:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1121. To: mcgowanjm (#1117)

do they play sports alot at Baylor?

They do. The winner take all in the Super Regionals is tonight so not a bad team this year. RGIII hails from Baylor. Saw his awesome performance at the OU game last year. Defense needs a lot of help this year without RGIII. Not a basketball type but I believe the men went to elite 8 and we all know the Lady Bears took it all this year. Got to meet coach Drew and crew in 2011 when my son received VIP tickets to a game. Came within arms length of Ken Starr (probably one of your favorite people:)

So yeah, know you were tongue and cheek on "do they play sports..." Hey it is Texas they need to.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   9:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1122. To: All (#1120)

More details from AFP via Mother Nature Network. www.mnn.com/earth-matters...-plea-for-nuclear-restart

The reactors at Oi are so far the only ones that are anywhere near gaining the necessary approval, but the process has become a kind of Mexican stand-off in which neither local politicians nor the central government in Tokyo has been willing to make the first move. But increasingly alarmist warnings of summer power blackouts, with some estimates suggesting certain areas could see electricity supply fall as much as 20 percent short of demand, have added urgency to the issue.

Vow to vanquish the venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition! (V For Vendetta)

SHIT SUCKS! MOVE ON! - Allissun

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But increasingly alarmist warnings of summer power blackouts, with some estimates suggesting certain areas could see electricity supply fall as much as 20 percent short of demand, have added urgency to the issue.

Post me Any Power Balckout that Japan suffered last Summer. Only the test one in Early Spring.

Nukes use more power than they create. When that fact becomes clear..... :twisted: :? 8-)

Nukes have had Negative EROEI from the bery beginning.

The Nuclear Age is over.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   9:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1123. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#1119)

Good memory, professor.

And Mad Dog must teach English at Baylor as well.

You're beginning to catch on....keep at it....it'll come to you....;}

HINT:

What do all these race, religions, creeds, have in common?

LOL!!! Leave Baylor alone. We follow them because they are close to our current residence (close in Texas is relative). Plus we are big Rangers fans and David Murphy (Bear) is one of our favorite players. Not a bad school and that is coming from a Fordham Jesuit educated type.

Catching on? Well from your hint what can I say:

Black: God Bless. God loves variety and made us different colors. Man has a problem with color, but not God, He created us.

Muslim: Christ deniers, I pray for Muslims often that they seek the Lord while He may be found, and call upon Him while He is near.

Gnostic: heretics who deny the fullness of Jesus Christ. Pray for them as well.

Gay: cannot inherit the Kingdom of God along with drunkards, adulterous et al. Yes prayers are offered often.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   9:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1124. To: redleghunter (#1121)

Got to meet coach Drew and crew in 2011 when my son received VIP tickets to a game. Came within arms length of Ken Starr (probably one of your favorite people:)

Empathy is a wonderful thing.

More people should try it.....;}

Bro in Laws kids play(ed) there.

You'd love my Bro in Law....;}

Rubber match today. Razorbacks V Baylor....winner to the CWS.

reminds me of way back when...;}

WHOOOOOOOO PIG SOOOIE!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   9:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1125. To: redleghunter (#1113)

I loved The X-Files and The Lone Gunmen.

Do you remember The Lone Gunmen show where a jet airliner had its controls remotely taken over and was headed for the World Trade Center buildings? At the last moments they regained controls. I believe it was the pilot episode in March 2001.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-11   9:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1126. To: redleghunter (#1123)

Muslim: Christ deniers

Study up!

Jesus is a prophet in Islam.

The JEws can't say the same.

Why the free ride for Israel?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   9:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1127. To: Fred Mertz (#1125)

I loved The X-Files and The Lone Gunmen.

Do you remember The Lone Gunmen show where a jet airliner had its controls remotely taken over and was headed for the World Trade Center buildings? At the last moments they regained controls. I believe it was the pilot episode in March 2001.

I saw that finally.

No wonder they did everything to keep that quiet.....;}

9/11....never before and never since.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   9:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1128. To: redleghunter (#1123)

Gnostic: heretics who deny the fullness of Jesus Christ. Pray for them as well.

Gay: cannot inherit the Kingdom of God along with drunkards, adulterous et al. Yes prayers are offered often.

And I'm taking ALl your prayers in.

But you better take a break from me this PM.

Send some this way:

The 'Feed the Beaver' Crew.....;}

Gay: cannot inherit the Kingdom of God along with drunkards, adulterous et al. Yes prayers are offered often.

I'm guessing genetic markers is not high on the Baylor Science agenda:

# October 2011 - Hussman Institute for Human Genomics at Miller ... hihg.med.miami.edu/news/2011/10Cached

The HIHG's Adam Naj, Ph.D., quoted by ABC News. October 28, 2011 – New research has identified a genetic marker that may identify people at high risk for ...

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   9:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1129. To: mcgowanjm (#1127)

"The pilot episode, which first aired on March 4, 2001, concerned a terrorist plot to fly a hijacked airplane into the World Trade Center towers."

- Trivia for "The Lone Gunmen" (2001) - IMDb

www.911conspiracy.tv/Lone_Gunmen_Pilot.html

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-11   9:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1130. To: redleghunter (#1123)

Gnostic: heretics who deny the fullness of Jesus Christ. Pray for them as well.

And That's Pagan Gnostic.

Where the gods made Palnet Earth,

but didn't get their projrct to come out exactly right....

so it's

Planet Hell.......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   9:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1131. To: Fred Mertz (#1129)

Thanx Fred.

But I don't think this is what Red had in mind....;}

And Baffert can brag he came in Second Every Triple Crown Leg....

with Two different horse.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   9:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1132. To: A K A Stone (#0)

REPORT: ITALIAN BANK DECLARES ‘HOLIDAY’ « InvestmentWatch

OR Accelerated Withdrawal.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   9:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1133. To: All (#1132)

That is where all new money comes from these days: an international diarrhea of money. Maybe that is why the great nations of the West feel like sh it.

They are not likely to feel better if they keep shi tting money all over themselves. Rather, they will end up sitting in the gutter in Chinatown being laughed at by Chinese businessmen passing by on the sidewalk.

The Chinese businessmen will glance down and say, "Look, here are the clowns we used to see at Davos, Switzerland, every year eating foie gras. Now they are pathetic crack-heads beshi tting themselves. And, hark, the lice crawling all over them are shouting and banging on pots!"

We are those lice.

This is what comes of pulling money out of your ass. Sorry to be so graphic but it is not a pretty story.

Terrorist State, Abroad and At Home":

Just as it is not possible for an individual to restrict what constitutes a fundamental psychological methodology to only one area of his life, so a ruling class will not employ one approach in foreign policy while dealing with matters of domestic politics in a radically different manner. In any case, the U.S. ruling class never had such a desire: in one way or another, other nations would be made to submit to the demands of the U.S. government --

and the same is true for U.S. citizens.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   10:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1134. To: Fred Mertz (#1125)

I believe it was the pilot episode in March 2001.

Yes I do remember it. It was the second such show or movie (forget the name of the other) to have that scenario. Guess AQ watches Amercian TV.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   11:41:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1135. To: mcgowanjm (#1132)

REPORT: ITALIAN BANK DECLARES ‘HOLIDAY’

Looks like the Italian communists are going to loot the Vatican in an attempt to get out of the mess that they've made. It will be a temp fix at best if they continue down the path of Keynesian communism.

Former ‘God’s Banker’ could blitz Vatican with cache of secret documents

The former head of the Vatican Bank has become the Papacy’s Enemy Number One, after police discovered a trove of documents exposing financial misdeeds in the Holy See. The banker now reportedly fears for his life.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-06-11   11:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1136. To: mcgowanjm (#1126)

Study up!

Jesus is a prophet in Islam.

The JEws can't say the same.

Why the free ride for Israel?

"Study up" LOL!!!

Notice I said CHRIST deniers. Muslims deny Jesus is the Christ. So I was correct, but will refrain from patting myself on the back too hard:)

On Israel and Jews, they are God's people so I find myself in a humbled state not to read into their destiny much. I believe God is not finished with Israel so I leave it at that and do not lean on speculation. The Promise has always been there will be a remnant, and I believe that remnant is Jewish and their Salvation by Grace through faith. No separate deal.

So no "free ride" as you put it for Israel and Jews. Like all of God's Promises, they are in His Divine Hands.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   11:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1137. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#1128)

And I'm taking ALl your prayers in.

But you better take a break from me this PM.

Send some this way:

The 'Feed the Beaver' Crew.....;}

Gay: cannot inherit the Kingdom of God along with drunkards, adulterous et al. Yes prayers are offered often.

I'm guessing genetic markers is not high on the Baylor Science agenda:

# October 2011 - Hussman Institute for Human Genomics at Miller ... hihg.med.miami.edu/news/2011/10Cached

The HIHG's Adam Naj, Ph.D., quoted by ABC News. October 28, 2011 – New research has identified a genetic marker that may identify people at high risk for ...

Stevens-Johnson Syndrome News, Photos and Videos - ABC News abcnews.go.com › Topics › Lifestyle › HealthCached

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Hey, we are all loved by our Creator. There are things about ourselves and the ones we love we don't understand the "why" to. Just to stay honest as much as one can on an anonymous forum, my statements are not out of some perceived "self-righteousness" but what the Master left us and His apostles. If we are in Christ Jesus we will obey Him. That means living a Christian life. I think Paul, John, Peter and James are pretty clear on that in their Epistles. The other choice is to reject Him.

So if you are truly gay all the research reports hold no water to the Words of the Good Shepherd and His inspired Words to his apostles. I would be dishonest to say I knew the reason people are gay. I am not a doctor or genetics expert, but neither of the two are Lord and Savior. We must trust and obey as believers and those in Christ hear His Voice and do His Will. We are not perfect still in this human body and will sin, but we should not be in habitual sin which is walking away from His Will for us. Which some would call this habitual sin idolatry. We end up worshipping the thing which separates us from God. For some that might be wealth and possessions for others the list cannot be exhausted.

I know, you probably think life is perfect for this straight dude and his nice little family with no challenges or difficulties. On the contrary, as my walk got closer to Christ the challenges and difficulties of life increased exponentially. And He is faithful and true in His comfort and answered prayer. He also prepares you for the tough times. And things can be real trying when calamity hits one of your little ones.

So I respect your response, but being a praticing homosexual is incapatable with living a Christian walk with Christ. Not one of us is perfect and we have all sinned (you know the verses). It is what happens once we realize we are sinners. We either let the sin control us and make "it" our "master." Or embrace The Master who has paid the price for our sins and follow Him and obey Him. He WILL BE faithful and true to transform us. We have to be willing.

You will not get insults from me, that is not me. The above was not meant to poke you in the eye. You asked and I responded. I am reminded of my dearly departed uncle. He once told me that when he died and went to Heaven of course the first Person he wanted to see is Jesus Christ. However, a bit tongue in cheek, next he wanted to see Adam and Eve to tell them how much they messed things up for everyone else:) But he did remind me that after seeing Christ and that Christ made all things well, he would instead look up Noah and ask him what happened to the dinosaurs:) It was a nice way for an uncle telling a young boy that although we all have our imperfections due to the fall, Jesus fixed it all perfectly. Do we have the faith and trust in Him to make us well?

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   12:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1138. To: mcgowanjm (#1130)

And That's Pagan Gnostic.

Where the gods made Palnet Earth,

but didn't get their projrct to come out exactly right....

so it's

Planet Hell.......;}

I will let you have a bit more fun with me:) Now a pagan...So a Black, Gnostic pagan Muslim who is gay. Sure you don't have some Jewish blood just to cover all the bases?:)

So abandon the smoke screen and let us know what you truly believe. Because you know at the very least you cannot be Muslim plus gay plus pagan. That at least you should be honest about. Gnostic, pagan and gay sure I can see that.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   12:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1139. To: redleghunter (#1137)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

I enjoy your posts and you are a welcome addition to the site. I am curious as to why you use the new king james bible. Without going into details yet hasn't a lot of the word been removed from that book?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-11   12:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1140. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#1104)

So now you're teaching English 101.....at Baylor.....;}

LOL!

Hey SCUM, it's GRADE SCHOOL LEVEL ENGLISH which apparently baffles YOU and YOUR ILK.

LOL! and SCUM it would have been MIT, or CalTech, or Stanford, NOT F'ing Baylor.

LOL!

You stooooooooopid libTURD SCUM

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

So, I say again;

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

LOL!

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because it's well it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

LOL!

You are the just typical libTURD loser SCUM.

KEEP GIBBERING AWAY SCUM!

It shows more than any other thing what a vile insane gibbering cowardly FOOL you are.

============

To ALL people who LOVE LIBERTY, look at what this SCUM says and "thinks".

Does "he" speak for you?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-11   14:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1141. To: A K A Stone (#1139)

am curious as to why you use the new king james bible. Without going into details yet hasn't a lot of the word been removed from that book?

NKJV vs. KJV you mean? I think you may be referring to the newer HCSB or NIV versions. Actually have been using the NASB-95 more often lately.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   14:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1142. To: A K A Stone (#1139)

I am curious as to why you use the new king james bible.

A bit more info on what I stated before:

www.apbrown2.n et/web/TranslationComparisonChart.htm

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   15:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1143. To: A K A Stone (#1142)

A bit more info on what I stated before:

www.apbrown2.n et/web/TranslationComparisonChart.htm

Found an error on the site I linked above. The site claims the KJV OT was from the Greek. We both know that is incorrect, so my apologies for not catching this sooner.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-11   15:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1144. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The assumption is that high priced crude has no real effect outside of gas-customers’ attitudes and political leanings.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   21:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1145. To: Mad Dog, All (#1140)

fuck you, moron.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   21:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1146. To: All (#1145)

"A better assumption is that people pay for high-priced crude the way they pay for high-priced everything else: they borrow. This becomes self-defeating as the increase of lending pushes prices higher which requires still more loans. "

www.economic-undertow.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-11   21:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1147. To: redleghunter (#1142)

Changed Words Means Changed Meanings

We know that Bible versions disagree on how to translate certain words. Here is an example: Is Jesus God's "Son" or God's "servant"? If He is God's Son, then we all need to listen to what He said! Changed words like this make a great deal of difference in how we understand a passage.

Loss of "thee" and "thou"

Please decide what God is saying to Moses: "And the LORD said to Moses, "How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My laws?" (Exodus 16:28, NKJV)

It looks like God is saying, "Moses, you are continuing to refuse to keep My commandments and My laws." But look carefully at the accurate King James: "And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?"

Now we understand! It was the people, not Moses, that God was upset with. "Ye" and "you" mean more than one person. "Thee," "thou," "thy," "thine," "doeth," "hast," etc., only mean one person. How do we know? The "y" is plural. The "t" is singular. Isn't that easy? Now you know what Jesus meant when He said to Nicodemus, "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" (John 3:7).

What Jesus said was, "Nicodemus, marvel not that I said unto thee, all of you need to be born again." This is very important. Not only Nicodemus needed to be saved. But everybody, including him, needed to be born again. That's why Jesus used the plural. www.chick.com/ask/articles/nkjv.asp

But there is more of a problem than the thousands of times "thee" and "thou" are removed from God's words. What does a word mean? This is very important, as you shall see. Go to Gehenna?

The NKJV claims to be "more accurate" because it leaves untranslated words like "Gehenna," "Hades" and "Sheol." What do they mean? You will know from the King James the exact meaning: "hell." We know what that means. Meaning is very important. When's the last time you heard someone told to "Go to Gehenna"?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-11   21:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1148. To: mcgowanjm (#1145)

.

You don't pass even one test required to do that SCUM.

You'd have to be human.

You'd have to be female.

AND you'd have to be a decent person.

That's three strikes for you SCUM!

You're OUT!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

So, I say again;

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

LOL!

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because it's well it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

LOL!

You are the just typical libTURD loser SCUM.

KEEP GIBBERING AWAY SCUM!

It shows more than any other thing what a vile insane gibbering cowardly FOOL you are.

============

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   0:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1149. To: mcgowanjm (#1146)

life is getting too stressful and i need some zany-ness back.

(posting anything TO Brain Shit is pointless....rather posting derisively AT him makes sense)

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-06-12   1:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1150. To: e_type_jag (#1149)

life is getting too stressful and i need some zany-ness back.

Well you're in the right place.

Don't expect truth to be silenced here.....;}

" House Republicans Outraged by Possible Afghan War Spending Cuts

Minor Cuts in War Spending 'Morally Unconscionable,' Reps Insist

by Jason Ditz, June 11, 2012

House Republicans are up in arms tonight, demanding an official explanation from the Obama Administration for the revelation from the budget office that the funding for the occupation of Afghanistan would in fact face some small cuts in fiscal 2013 as part of the overall “sequestration” cuts.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta had insisted in November that the money for occupying Afghanistan would not by touched, but the military has yet to consider exactly how they would make cuts, instead railing against them on general principle and demanding that Congress exempt the military entirely. The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) said that in the absence of a plan the funding for the occupation was “fair game.”

The letter from Reps. Buck McKeon (R – CA), Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R – FL) and Mike Rogers (R – MI) termed any cut to the spending on the conquest of Afghanistan “morally unconscionable” and demanded that the administration assure that the cuts not apply to anything war related.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   7:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1151. To: A K A Stone (#1147)

"Go to Gehenna"?

That 's one of Dante's Circles huh?

Love bible study.

They do that in Baylor alot I know.

Basically instead of practicing life's lessons.

Like how to beat an SEC Baseball juggernaut!

Go OMAHOGS! WHOOOOO PIG SOOOOIE!!!!!!! 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   7:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1152. To: Mad Dog (#1148)

PRofessor MD,

U waste your talents with verbosity.

Pass a test?

Do I get a grade? A diploma? A job?

Fuck no....

"In any case, the U.S. ruling class never had such a desire: in one way or another, other nations would be made to submit to the demands of the U.S. government -- and the same is true for U.S. citizens. The citizens of America will do exactly as the ruling class demands -- or else."

When are you putting the Afghan Battle Flag on your truck?

Get with the program!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   7:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1153. To: mcgowanjm (#1152)

Pass a test?

Do I get a grade? A diploma? A job?

Fuck no....

So you are sad because you have no job. Get a skill.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-12   7:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1154. To: Mad Dog (#1140)

So now you're teaching English 101.....at Baylor.....;}

LOL!

Hey SCUM, it's GRADE SCHOOL LEVEL ENGLISH which apparently baffles YOU and YOUR ILK.

Just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I bet it's Home Schooling then....English, then Creationism, then Recess.....YEAH!!!!!!!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   7:44:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1155. To: A K A Stone (#1153)

Pass a test?

Do I get a grade? A diploma? A job?

Fuck no....

So you are sad because you have no job. Get a skill.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

MD needs some help from his handler now, eh?

Your dog getting the short end of the stick so you're coming in to 'level' the playing field?

Good....;}

My Hogs are going to the World Series!

And couldn't have beeaten a more deserving foe.

What's to be sad about......8D

I got all the skills of a lifetime.

I'm making a living as I type here.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   7:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1156. To: All (#1155) (Edited)

www.economic-undertow.com...s/2012/06/CLBW-061012.png

As far as the ruling class is concerned, you have as little reason to complain as the murdered Iraqis do: the ruling class only wishes to improve your life. The ruling class acts only on your behalf, and "for your own good."

You now witness these tactics of intimidation and of the most transparently, viciously manipulative fear-mongering deployed by almost every member of the ruling class in connection with the bailout bill."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   7:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1157. To: Mad Dog, All (#1156)

This could be here and now with the folks on board.

Hell, it might be you on this board.....LMFAO.....;}

"Inferno 06-23-2005, 05:49 AM This came up in another thread recently about the American Confederate flag and how some view it as racist, but others view it as a momento of history and somehting to be proud of. Do you think flags can really be racist? Or is that just something that people say to stir up trouble and use as an excuse to say the word oppression? liquid crystal 06-24-2005, 02:50 AM This is an interesting topic, and coincidentally enough, just the other day I heard about this on the radio.

Apparently, some folks want the South Vietnam flag to be the official flag for Vietnamese-Americans, while many other folks believe that this would be offensive because of the connotations associated with the Saigon regime.

As for the Confederacy's flag, I don't think it's racist, just goofy. Only hicks and rednecks put Confederate flag bumper stickers on their cars, in my experience. JohtoTrainer 06-24-2005, 03:02 AM This is an interesting topic, and coincidentally enough, just the other day I heard about this on the radio.

Apparently, some folks want the South Vietnam flag to be the official flag for Vietnamese-Americans, while many other folks believe that this would be offensive because of the connotations associated with the Saigon regime.

As for the Confederacy's flag, I don't think it's racist, just goofy. Only hicks and rednecks put Confederate flag bumper stickers on their cars, in my experience.

Hicks? WTF? Shut up.

It's called heritage. I'm not a hick or a redneck and I have a confederate flag flying at my house. Over-generalization. None of my black friends think it's racist, and one of them actually has one flying at his house."

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   7:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1158. To: All (#1157)

US Withdraws Negotiators After Pakistan Border Deal Talks Stall Embassy Faults Pakistan Over Lack of Deal by Jason Ditz, June 11, 2012 Print This | Share This

The Obama Administration has withdrawn its negotiators from Pakistan after failing to reach a deal with the Pakistani government on reopening the border to occupied Afghanistan. The border has been closed since November, when US warplanes attacked Pakistani border outposts, killing 24 soldiers.

Pakistan’s parliament had conditioned a deal on the US apologizing...."

That's alright cause we gots an escape route all ready thru Russia.....8D

Home by Xmas!!!!!!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   7:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1159. To: All (#1158) (Edited)

US Withdraws Negotiators After Bottom 99% Bail Out Deal Talks Stall Embassy Faults Dirty Fuckin' Hippies Over Lack of Deal

FIFY.....8D

The latest survey is based on data collected in 2010. Figures are reported in 2010 dollars.

Unsurprisingly, the report is full of grim news, and although it is news from 18 months ago, fresher sources of economic data make clear that most households have since seen only modest increases, at best, in wealth and income.

Despite these setbacks, consumers have continued to spend surprising amounts of money in recent years, helping to keep the economy growing at a modest pace. The survey underscores where the money is coming from: Americans are saving less for future needs and making little progress in repaying debts.

"helping to keep the economy growing at a modest pace"

and we're Making Progress in the Afghans/Iraq Conquests as well.....;}

"Americans are saving less for future needs and making little progress in repaying debts."

Americans have ZERO saved for ANYTHING and are DEFAULTING whenever possible....FIFY....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   8:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1160. To: All (#1159)

"As noted, and for reasons too numerous to list here, we are forced to conclude that the Ban-Ki-moon-man's goals—doubling energy efficiency (???) and doubling energy from renewable sources while providing lighting and heat to the more than 1.3 billion people who still lack it—will happen when pigs can fly. Environmentalists are bitter.

“As things currently stand, we are facing two likely scenarios — an agreement so weak it is meaningless, or complete collapse,” Jim Leape, director general of the World Wildlife Fund, said in a statement Tuesday. “Neither of these options would give the world what it needs.”

“When they gather in Rio, governments must restrain the flow of weasel words that is threatening to emasculate any agreement,” Leape added.

Welcome to Planet Earth, Mr. Leape. Try to remember that the Earth and solar system are 4.55 billion years old. At the very last moment in that very, very long history, in less than the blink of an eye some 200,000 years ago, Homo sapiens arose in Africa, spread out from there, and conquered the entire world. Subsequently, they have used and abused this remarkable planet in any way they saw fit in accordance with their Nature and capabilities.

And in much less than the blink of an eye, they will be gone."

By 2140, 400 million humans is optimistic.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   8:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1161. To: A K A Stone (#0)

WHAT THE FU CK!?

"TRIPOLI (AFP) - Libya has put four International Criminal Court (ICC) envoys in "preventive" detention in prison for 45 days while investigating an alleged threat to national security, a judicial source said on Monday.

"A decision was made to put them in preventive detention for 45 days while investigations are conducted," an official in the attorney general's office told AFP on condition of anonymity.

Ajmi al-Atiri, head of the brigade in Zintan that detained the delegation after it visited Moamer Kadhafi's son Seif al-Islam, said: "They were transferred yesterday (Sunday) to a prison on the orders of the prosecutor general."

The four-member delegation has been held since Thursday in the western town after one of its lawyers, Melinda Taylor, was found carrying documents for Seif al-Islam that were considered a "threat to national security."

And this isn't news in the USSA?

Everthing you need to know.

EVERYONE here KNOWS exactly what would happen if Qaddafi had tried this.....

LMFAO......8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   8:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1162. To: All (#1157) (Edited)

As for the Confederacy's flag, I don't think it's racist, just goofy. Only hicks and rednecks put Confederate flag bumper stickers on their cars, in my experience.

Hicks? WTF? Shut up.

It's called heritage. I'm not a hick or a redneck and I have a confederate flag flying at my house. Over-generalization. None of my black friends think it's racist, and one of them actually has one flying at his house."

8D

I can't decide whether to fly My Confederate Battle Flag on top of or just below my POW/MIA Flag.

what do you guys think?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   8:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1163. To: All (#1157)

" The share of families saving anything over the previous year fell to 52 percent in 2010 from 56.4 percent in 2007. Other government statistics show that total savings have increased since 2007, suggesting that a smaller group of families are saving more money, while a growing number manage to save nothing."

The share of families saving anything over the previous year fell to 52 percent in 2010 from 56.4 percent in 2007. Other government statistics show that total savings have increased since 2007, but this is generally considered to be a lie by the Bottom 99%,

suggesting that a smaller group of families, say the TOP 1%, are saving more money, while a growing number, the Bottom 99%, manage to save nothing......

FIFY....;}....no charge.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   8:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1164. To: All (#1163)

" The survey also found a shift in the reasons that families set aside money, illustrating the lack of confidence that is weighing on the pace of economic growth. More families said they were saving as a precautionary measure, to make sure they had sufficient liquidity to meet short-term needs. Fewer said they were saving for retirement, education or for a down payment on a home."

CSPAN was on this today. Loved the Call In Numbers:

One for those making less than 50 000-75 000.

And

One for those making 75 000 to 100 000.

Those making more than $100 000 were assumed to Not be watching the show I guess....8D.

An Automatic Skew from the Get Go.

The Lady talkin' Head was pretty but clueless....;}

" The survey also found a shift in the reasons that families set aside money, illustrating the lack of confidence that is weighing on the pace of economic growth. More families said they were saving as a precautionary measure, in case they lost their job or had a medical emergency, or needed to eat, to make sure they had sufficient liquidity to meet short-term needs. Fewer said they were saving for retirement, as they didn't thinkn that they would ever be retiring, education, they're getting non recourse no default Student loans, or for a down payment on a home, because you don't make Down Payments on homes these days, you're just a glorified renter.....

FIFY.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   8:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1165. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Hymns to the Violence: The NYT’s Love Letter to Obama's Murder Racket PDF Print E-mail Share Written by Chris Floyd Tuesday, 29 May 2012 14:21

I must, at last, admit defeat. I simply have no words, no rhetorical ammunition, no conceptual frameworks that could adequately address the total moral nullity exposed in Monday's New York Times article on the death squad that Barack Obama is personally directing from the White House. (“Secret ‘Kill List’ Proves a Test of Obama’s Principles and Will.”)

It is not so much a newspaper story as a love letter -- a love letter to death, to the awe-inspiring and fear-inducing power of death, as personified by Barack Obama in his temporary role as the manager of a ruthless, lawless imperial state. In the cringing obsequiousness of the multitude of insiders and sycophants who march in goose-step through the story, we can see the awe and fear -- indeed, the worship -- of death-dealing power. This enthrallment permeates the story, both in the words of the cringers and in the giddy thrill the writers display in gaining such delicious access to the inner sanctum.

In any other age -- including the last administration -- this story would have been presented as a scandalous exposé. The genuinely creepy scenes of the "nominating process" alone would have been seen as horrific revelations.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   9:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1166. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"Lenders eye precarious borrowers and mushrooming risk: instead of rolling over loans they demand repayment. This requires borrowing to take place outside of the ordinary transmission channels, by which the bulk of loans were made in the first place. New channels simply do not exist. Extend and pretend has been institutionalized over a period of decades across the modern world. The two-year loan became the ten-year loan. The ten-year loan became twenty. The loaned amounts in question expanded exponentially as both principal and interest were financed.

As the borrow-to-repay charade expands both the borrower and the lender realize they’ve been had: borrowers cannot roll over their debts while lenders see principal investments vanish and are wiped out. "

-economic-undertow.

There is No Return on Consumption by Burning gas in your car.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   9:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1167. To: All (#1166) (Edited)

Finance channels are saturated, debt is unproductive. All new debts taken on are to service old debts rather than afford goods and services. Debts are ‘dead money’: the only way to retire them are by way of Ponzi schemes and loan-shark lending. Borrowers cannot find lenders because all sources have been tapped already. Lenders cannot find creditable borrowers. This was the entire point of globalization, to tap all sources of world capital, benefits lasted only until global demand for capital ballooned to consume it.

www.economic-undertow.com/2012/06/11/agonistas/

News for ireland asks for Spain's deal

AFP

1. Irish Minister: Spain Bank Deal Doesn't Appear to Have Worked Wall Street Journal‎ - 5 hours ago The Irish government had hoped that the euro zone would lend directly to Spanish banks, rather than via the government, since that might have ...

1. Irish govt denies Spain has better bailout deal AFP‎ - 19 hours ago 2. Ireland says Spain did not get a better bailout Reuters‎ - 22 hours ago

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... :twisted: :roll: :shock: :? 8-)

So what exactly WAS the Spanish Deal that Ireland has the same terms..... :twisted: :roll: :!: :? 8-)

Whatever it was, and Ireland says it has the Same Deal:

Irish Minister: Spain Bank Deal Doesn't Appear to Have Worked......DOH

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   9:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1168. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The question is who can best deliver on the promise of continued living-beyond-means: unions or neo-liberals? Fifty years ago labor unions gave working families the chance at consumption lifestyles. Today, the problems lie with lifestyles themselves, union representation is irrelevant. Unions cannot deliver jobs that are exported overseas by business owners. The point has shifted from who can deliver wages and social justice to who can deliver $2 gasoline.

Unionists and progressives have little idea of the kind of contest that has been forced upon them. The US and the rest of the world have reached the end of a seventy-year run of a waste-based economy that cannot afford itself. Progressives demand a chance to make a difference when ‘different’ means more of the same, more consumption. This can be had from the business establishment which offers better empty promises.

http://www.economic-undertow.com/2012/06/11/agonistas/

who can deliver wages and social justice to who can deliver $2 gasoline.

O we're going to have $2 gasoline again....MoF, a gasoline can will probably be on the $2 bill..... :twisted:

But only Non Debtors, say 5% of the Pop. will be able to afford it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   10:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1169. To: A K A Stone (#1147)

We know that Bible versions disagree on how to translate certain words.

No doubt all English speaking Christians should keep a KJV handy. Especially, when running through the thee's and thou's. Personally it is not an issue for me. I have read and still use the KJV along side with others. So when "you" could be meant many things, I flip out the KJV to clarify.

I can see your concern for someone who is new to Bible reading and starting to do serious study for the first time.

"When's the last time you heard someone told to "Go to Gehenna"?"

Don't remember but it was probably on LP:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-12   11:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1170. To: Stoner (#1169)

Self Ping

Stoner  posted on  2012-06-12   11:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1171. To: mcgowanjm (#1152)

LOL!

You don't actually have a creative or original bone in your body do you fool?

That's OK.

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

LOL!

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because it's well it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

LOL!

You are the just typical libTURD loser SCUM.

KEEP GIBBERING AWAY SCUM!

It shows more than any other thing what a vile insane gibbering cowardly FOOL you are.

.....>>>>>>>>>>...............................>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.................................>>>

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   12:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1172. To: mcgowanjm (#1154)

So now you're teaching English 101.....at Baylor.....;}

LOL!

Md; Hey SCUM, it's GRADE SCHOOL LEVEL ENGLISH which apparently baffles YOU and YOUR ILK.

Just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I bet it's Home Schooling then....English, then Creationism, then Recess.....YEAH!!!!!!!

You have the reading comprehension of a gnat FOOL!

Obviously LOGIC is unknown to you.

No wonder a fool such as you confuses the subject of a basic third grade level sentence.

LOL!

FOOL YOUR grasp of basic English does not meet even third grade levels.

MY English is upper end bell curve, by TEST.

Kind of embarrassing for YOU the self claimed big brain that you can't even use your native language eh SCUM?

I feel your pain.

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

LOL!

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because it's well it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

LOL!

You are the just typical libTURD loser SCUM.

KEEP GIBBERING AWAY SCUM!

It shows more than any other thing what a vile insane gibbering cowardly FOOL you are.

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   12:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1173. To: mcgowanjm (#1157)

.

Yawn, it's libTURD SCUM such as you SCUM who TRY to deny HISTORY.

The CONFEDERACY existed and MILLIONS of people supported it even unto their deaths. Some of OUR families fought for the south, that's not "racism" SCUM, it's HISTORY.

Same thing with the Republic of South Vietnam. It EXISTED, MILLIONS fought for it under THAT flag. We we their ALLIES SCUM. That's not racism SCUM, it's HISTORY.

No you aren't a "hick" or a "redneck", YOU are communist/Marxist libTURD SCUM.

YOU are who we fought in Vietnam except you were here stabbing the troops in the back like you did to your own brother SCUM.

Truthfully a BIG part of the allure of flying either of those flags is how it cranks you hypocritical SCUM up!

LOL!

I love the way that you libTURD SCUM soil yourselves at the mere sight of them.

LOL!

You are like vampires when exposed to the light.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Btw, in the spirit of helping you SCUM, don't forget SCUM ...

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

LOL!

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because it's well it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

LOL!

You are the just typical libTURD loser SCUM.

KEEP GIBBERING AWAY SCUM!

It shows more than any other thing what a vile insane gibbering cowardly FOOL you are.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   12:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1174. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#274. To: All (#273)

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton announced that the administration had issued waivers to India, Malaysia, South Korea, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Turkey and Taiwan. They joined Japan and 10 European countries that the United States had previously said would be exempt from sanctions for six months."

And speaking of hiding.

Do a google of the above.

The NYT is first up, but then you get pp of foreign sources before you come back to the USSAMedia.

USSAMSM definitely missing.....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-12 21:26:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #275. To: All (#274)

And guess what happens in 6 months.

The Embargo is falling apart.

And watch the bidding war for the Cyprus Bailout.

It will be more generous than Greece.....people will be furious...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   21:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1175. To: Mad Dog (#1173)

Evening.....nothing's changed....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   21:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1176. To: All (#1175)

China is supposed to screw up their own economy for Israel? Ha. Won’t happen.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   21:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1177. To: All (#1176)

The JApanese have made a business decision.

At 7:45 in

Pollock: I think in Japan what is being made is the business decision. The business decision is: The cost of admitting the truth is so great I won’t admit it; business as usual, everyone stays in Tokyo, everyone stays in Fukushima.

Published: June 12th, 2012 at 4:14 pm ET By ENENews

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   21:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1178. To: All (#1177)

How to lose 40 percent of your net worth in 3 years – Americans see their net worth collapse during the recession. Federal Reserve survey highlights a case of austerity for the masses and social welfare for the politically connected.

www.mybudget360.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-12   21:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1179. To: mcgowanjm (#1175)

Evening.....nothing's changed....;}

LOL!

You are clueless!

LMAO!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   23:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1180. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#1178)

How to lose 40 percent of your net worth in 3 years – Americans see their net worth collapse during the

reign of the messiah "king" obammy.

"All HAIL the messiah "king" obammy!"

Elect an arrogant, spoiled, ignorant, incompetent, racist, marXist, AMERICA/US CONSTITUTION hating creep named Barack Barry Hussein Obama.

Then let this wannabe tyrant asshole get EVERYTHING he wants for two years, and then allow him to shit all over the rule of LAW and the US CONSTITUTION.

That's how you FUCK every American out of almost HALF of their net worth.

Hey, want to get rid of the other 60% of your stuff that you don't need you reactionary bastards?

Then Re-"elect" Barack Barry Hussein Obama.

SUCKERS!

(er ... Oh dat mittens is ebil I tells ya, EBIL ....gibber jabber gibber jabber)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   23:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1181. To: mcgowanjm (#1150)

that's actually not zany jim.

it's spot on the derision that should be focused on these v/n-war-syndrome-afflicted mil industrial complex loving idiots.

i'll patiently have to wait on some tesla coil reminiscent zaniness on some other thread i guess:)

gaykon at his best : http://img390.imageshack.us/i/1216006935521lb3.jpg/

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-06-13   2:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1182. To: mcgowanjm (#1177)

Pollock: I think in Japan what is being made is the business decision. The business decision is: The cost of admitting the truth is so great I won’t admit it; business as usual, everyone stays in Tokyo, everyone stays in Fukushima.

chuckles....

now this is the tesla effect i was seeking:)

a post that makes as much sense as a jackson pollock painting.

with the name pollock even referenced!!

ever see pollocks' work? actually that's kind of rhetorical as i'm quite certain you have:)

i'm a quintessential kandinsky sort of fan myself.

gaykon at his best : http://img390.imageshack.us/i/1216006935521lb3.jpg/

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-06-13   2:29:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1183. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And Here's the Dis connect....;}:

hipcrime.blogspot.com/201...ap-resources-is-over.html

per the BBC (VIDEO):

"

But the era of abundant cheap resources is drawing to an end, for reasons equally straightforward.

The global population currently stands at seven billion people, and is predicted to rise to more than nine billion by 2050 - that's roughly the population of the UK being added to the planet every year.

More importantly, there could be up to three billion new middle-class consumers, mainly in China and India, according to McKinsey. They will drive demand for meat, consumer goods and urban infrastructure, not to mention the energy needed to produce them, to levels unheard of in human history. For example, McKinsey expects the number of cars in the world to double by 2030.

And while demand for resources from an exploding and wealthier population soars, finding and extracting new sources of supply is becoming increasingly difficult and expensive.

For example, oil companies have to look further and drill deeper to find dwindling reserves of oil, meaning the cost of an average well has doubled in the past ten years, while new mining discoveries have been largely flat despite a fourfold increase in exploration costs.

The discovery of shale gas could have a major impact on meeting global energy needs in the decades to come, but as Laszlo Varro, head of gas, coal and power markets at the International Energy Agency, says, just burning current reserves of fossil fuels using existing technologies would create enough carbon dioxide "to boil the planet several times over".

Yes, the resources from now on will be expensive, but for NONE of the Reasons offered above.....".

Ex....Pop, cars and prosperity from Chindia....None of that will be around in 10 years.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   7:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1184. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y1F6iZUFoLc/T9ZWEzEqzoI/AAAAAAAAWXU/OXum2wykHBM/s1600/graph.jpg

...once or twice I have found a bee trapped in the more-rich-than-Cleopatra's tomb of a tulip or a day lily, unable to back out of the narrow orifice or to turn around, dead of exhaustion.

Yet bees, one should suppose, ought to be immortal, ought to be exempt from death. For are they not the world's only truly innocent creatures? No living thing dies to give them or their offspring sustenance; when they feed they are giving rather than taking life; and when they resort to their only gesture of self-defense it is an act of suicide.

Coming down off the hill carrying my telescope, it occurred to me, as it had a hundred times before, that I am one of the lucky ones. This is all I have so far in my life wanted or needed. But I cannot help wondering what will become of people like me when the world is cemented over.

I felt fragile and depressed, a last surviving member of a species threatened with extinction.

Paul Kingsnorth wrote:

"I withdraw, you see. I withdraw from the campaigning and the marching, I withdraw from the arguing and the talked-up necessity and all of the false assumptions. I withdraw from the words. I am leaving.

I am going to go out walking." "I am leaving on a pilgrimage to find what I left behind in the jungles and by the cold campfires and in the parts of my head and my heart that I have been skirting around because I have been busy fragmenting the world in order to save it;

busy believing it is mine to save. I am going to listen to the wind and see what it tells me, or whether it tells me anything at all. You see, it turns out that I have more time than I thought. I will follow the songlines and see what they sing to me and maybe, one day, I might even come back.

And if I am very lucky I might bring with me a harvest of fresh tales, which I can scatter like apple seeds across this tired and angry land."

Negotiating on behalf of Nature, for Gaia, is a sacred duty.

Environmentalism is not just a career move. As Paul Sears warned 40 years ago, “Ecology is a subversive subject,” because ecology will demand that we completely re-evaluate our assumptions. We do not get to rewrite the laws of biology, physics, thermodynamics, and exponential growth for our own convenience.

We need ecological leaders who understand ecology and biophysical laws, and who feel a deep, sacred respect for Nature itself.

Ecologists...

It's been a while since I've seen that word....strange that....;}

....understand that climate change from CO2 is only one aspect of the vortex of calamities that is fast evolving, which derives from the full bludgeoning of anthropomorphic tyranny - habitat destruction, resource extraction, and pollution. The single-minded emphasis on CO2 enables activists and scientists the fantasy that we can solve the problem by switching to green energy.

Even assuming that transition is physically possible - and I seriously doubt it is - that wouldn't be enough to spare our species and all others from extermination. As a mindset it is not merely insufficient - it's a distraction, which ultimately makes it an integral part of the problem, although good luck convincing anyone of that.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   8:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1185. To: A K A Stone, All (#0) (Edited)

...once or twice I have found a bee trapped in the more-rich-than-Cleopatra's tomb of a tulip or a day lily, unable to back out of the narrow orifice or to turn around, dead of exhaustion.

Yet bees, one should suppose, ought to be immortal, ought to be exempt from death. For are they not the world's only truly innocent creatures? No living thing dies to give them or their offspring sustenance; when they feed they are giving rather than taking life; and when they resort to their only gesture of self-defense it is an act of suicide.

Coming down off the hill carrying my telescope, it occurred to me, as it had a hundred times before, that I am one of the lucky ones. This is all I have so far in my life wanted or needed. But I cannot help wondering what will become of people like me when the world is cemented over.

I felt fragile and depressed, a last surviving member of a species threatened with extinction.

Paul Kingsnorth wrote:

"I withdraw, you see. I withdraw from the campaigning and the marching, I withdraw from the arguing and the talked-up necessity and all of the false assumptions. I withdraw from the words. I am leaving.

I am going to go out walking." "I am leaving on a pilgrimage to find what I left behind in the jungles and by the cold campfires and in the parts of my head and my heart that I have been skirting around because I have been busy fragmenting the world in order to save it;

busy believing it is mine to save. I am going to listen to the wind and see what it tells me, or whether it tells me anything at all. You see, it turns out that I have more time than I thought. I will follow the songlines and see what they sing to me and maybe, one day, I might even come back.

And if I am very lucky I might bring with me a harvest of fresh tales, which I can scatter like apple seeds across this tired and angry land."

Negotiating on behalf of Nature, for Gaia, is a sacred duty.

Environmentalism is not just a career move. As Paul Sears warned 40 years ago, “Ecology is a subversive subject,” because ecology will demand that we completely re-evaluate our assumptions. We do not get to rewrite the laws of biology, physics, thermodynamics, and exponential growth for our own convenience.

We need ecological leaders who understand ecology and biophysical laws, and who feel a deep, sacred respect for Nature itself.

Ecologists...

It's been a while since I've seen that word....strange that....;}

....understand that climate change from CO2 is only one aspect of the vortex of calamities that is fast evolving, which derives from the full bludgeoning of anthropomorphic tyranny - habitat destruction, resource extraction, and pollution. The single-minded emphasis on CO2 enables activists and scientists the fantasy that we can solve the problem by switching to green energy.

Even assuming that transition is physically possible - and I seriously doubt it is - that wouldn't be enough to spare our species and all others from extermination. As a mindset it is not merely insufficient - it's a distraction, which ultimately makes it an integral part of the problem, although good luck convincing anyone of that.

http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   8:33:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1186. To: All (#1183)

RUSSIAN WARNING SHOTS AS SYRIAN CONFLICT THREATENS TO DEGENERATE INTO WORLD WAR By: Thierry Meyssan on: 13.06.2012 [00:19 ] (369 reads)

The message is clear : Moscow is ready for world war if NATO and the GCC do not comply with the international obligations as defined in the Annan Plan and persist in aiding terrorism.

RUSSIAN WARNING SHOTS AS SYRIAN CONFLICT THREATENS TO DEGENERATE INTO WORLD WAR

Posted on June 11, 2012

countryboy wrote:Austerity was invented in Russia long ago.

And Russia can demonstrate it for all the world to see.... :twisted:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   8:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1187. To: All (#1186)

" A lone, psychopathic killer views himself as a self-contained society of one; therefore, he feels accountable to no one outside of himself…

He is a freelancer (a mirror image of the lawless state itself) who has assumed the murderous agency of state power.

No wonder, we, as a people, so greatly exaggerate the danger these extreme cases pose to us on a collective basis — no wonder we insist that the most punitive forms of punishment be inflicted upon individuals afflicted with these rare afflictions…that they be locked away in the most secure prisons and executed with utmost expediency…

for if we gazed upon them for any length of time, we would notice affinities of mind and action — their violent, reprehensible deeds are microcosmic representations of official state policy and cultural norms.

-Phil Rockstruh

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   8:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1188. To: e_type_jag (#1182)

;}

Seek and ye shall find...;}

Everyone stays in Tokyo.

everyone has made up their mind.

Tell your buddies to bring it.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   8:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1189. To: e_type_jag (#1181)

war-syndrome-afflicted mil industrial complex loving idiots.

No need to wait....we're here....;}

#1186. To: All (#1183)

RUSSIAN WARNING SHOTS AS SYRIAN CONFLICT THREATENS TO DEGENERATE INTO WORLD WAR By: Thierry Meyssan on: 13.06.2012 [00:19 ] (369 reads)

The message is clear : Moscow is ready for world war if NATO and the GCC do not comply with the international obligations as defined in the Annan Plan and persist in aiding terrorism.

RUSSIAN WARNING SHOTS AS SYRIAN CONFLICT THREATENS TO DEGENERATE INTO WORLD WAR

Posted on June 11, 2012

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   9:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1190. To: Mad DogHow to lose 40 percent of your net worth in 3 years Americans see their net worth collapse (#1180)

How to lose 40 percent of your net worth in 3 years – Americans see their net worth collapse

you missed the starting point.....per usual....

2007.....LMFAO.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   9:02:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1191. To: Mad Dog (#1179)

Evening.....nothing's changed....;}

LOL!

You are clueless!

LMAO!

Morning....nothing's changed.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   9:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1192. To: All (#1191) (Edited)

Therefore, we clear these overt monsters from sight, lest we awaken to ourselves — to the casual and mundane monstrosities required to adapt to this prison of the criminally insane we know as daily existence within late capitalist empire.

The further one afflicted withdraws from the world…the larger his fears will loom. Isolation causes the mind to become a self-resonating feedback loop of self-referential fear (e.g., an encampment of peace resisters must be met with violent force to preserve the health of the state’s social order).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   9:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1193. To: All (#1192)

Posted on June 11, 2012

The nature of the Syrian crisis has changed. The process of destabilization that was to open the path for legal military intervention by the Atlantic Alliance has failed. Removing its mask, the United States has publicly announced the possibility of attacking Syria without the approval of the Security Council, as it also did in Kosovo.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   9:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1194. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#8. To: Destro (#7) (Edited)

It's always like that with Empire just before the 'war'.

Usually, it's the 'Pontius Pilot hands' thingy....;}

The ELite have always used war as the Final Solution.

The problem for them this time is that the Final Solution will never have a weak vanquished opponent on the other side.

And speaking of Pristina:

" The nature of the Syrian crisis has changed. The process of destabilization that was to open the path for legal military intervention by the Atlantic Alliance has failed. Removing its mask, the United States has publicly announced the possibility of attacking Syria without the approval of the Security Council, as it also did in Kosovo.

Washington must be pretending not to have noticed that the Russia of Vladimir Putin is not that of Boris Yeltsin. After being assured of Chinese support, Moscow literally fired two warning shots in the direction of Washington. The continuing violations of international law by NATO and the GCC threaten to unleash a global conflict.

"Kosovo was done because the Imperial City still thought Yeltsin was in control. "

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   9:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1195. To: All (#1194)

#9. To: Destro, All (#8)

Why would anyone in their right mind want to deliberately and nakedly antagonize Russia and China?

And that's the giveaway for ther NYT:

To say that the NYT has forgotten

080808 is to be ignorant. And per the NYT, a hypocrite.

Cause I guarantee that Russia hasn't....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   9:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1196. To: e_type_jag (#1182)

What is actually at stake in Syria is not whether Bashar al-Assad will be able to democratize the institutions he has inherited or whether the Wahhabist monarchies of the Gulf will succeed in destroying the last secular regime in the region and impose their sectarianism, but to determine the lines of separation between the emerging power blocs of NATO (the North Atlantic Treaty Organization) and the SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organization)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   9:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1197. To: All (#1196)

Positioning himself as a peacemaker confronting NATO warmongering, Vladimir Putin has demanded that the CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organization) ready itself to deploy its “blue chapkas” in Syria, to both separate the belligerents and combat foreign forces. Nicolai Bordyuzha, secretary-general of the CSTO, has confirmed that he is ready to deploy 20,000 men trained for this type of mission and immediately available 6.

This would be the first time that the CSTO deploys a peace force outside of former Soviet territory. Cut to the quick, Ban Ki-Moon attempted to sabotage the initiative, countering with his own sudden effort to organize a Contact Group. Convening in Washington the Sanctions Working Group of the Friends Of Syria Conference, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton defied the Russian proposal and raised the ante in favor of regime change 7.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   9:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1198. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The president’s directive reinforced the need for caution, counterterrorism officials said, but did not significantly change the program. In part, that is because “the protection of innocent life was always a critical consideration,” said Michael V. Hayden, the last C.I.A. director under President George W. Bush.

It is also because Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   10:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1199. To: mcgowanjm (#1192)

no citation, no reference, no source, no annotation, no NOTHING.

Just the fetid ramblings of a sick and disturbed libTURD whore.

I feel your pain SCUM.

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

LOL!

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because it's well it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-13   13:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1200. To: mcgowanjm (#1191)

libTURD SCUM BLOVIATIONS .....

THIS certainly has NOT changed in any way has it SCUM?

"I feel your pain SCUM.

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-13   13:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1201. To: Mad Dog (#1200)

Evening.....nothing's changed....;}

9/11 cheney colin scoggins E-4B Scowcroft....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   21:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1202. To: All (#1201)

Rodrigo Rato become known to the outside world as the Head of the now notorious Bankia. It has been Bankia’s collapse which triggered the current round of Europe’s on-going bank debt crisis. The Bankia collapse has angered the rest of Europe’s elite. Just when they thought they had succeeded in convincing people to forget that this was a crisis of private bank debts and insolvency, caused by bankers, and to think instead that the whole problem was a Sovereign debt crisis caused by greedy citizens, along comes Bankia to remind people, in a most unhelpful fashion, that, at root, this is a PRIVATE BANK CRISIS. A crisis of private loans and private debts, created by bankers at private banks for their private clients. Particularly in Spain this crisis is not one of Public debt.

"UNLESS THE FED IS ACTIVELY ENGAGING IN MONETIZATION AT EVERY GIVEN MOMENT, THE IMPACT FROM EASING DIMINISHES PROGRESSIVELY, ULTIMATELY APPROACHING ZERO AND SUBSEQUENTLY BECOMING NEGATIVE!"

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   21:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1203. To: All (#1202)

There's nothing new about the right way to restructure a bankrupt company; it's been done a million times. But it's done not this time, not in Europe and not in the US. As a result, the whole banking system is now a $1 quadrillion zombie system, held up by zombie money that is injected into it in our name, no matter that if we don't have it. And our grandchildren will be born with a million dollars or so each in debt right from the get-go. And we’ll tell them we love them, and believe ourselves when we say it....

All of which is why maybe we should look forward to a Syriza victory in the Greek elections, or to Finland leaving the Eurozone. Just so the idiot emperors and the idiot clothes they don't wear are revealed as the zombies they are.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   21:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1204. To: All (#1203)

The banks that are kept alive with the zombie money will use it to do what they will - rightfully, in the present economic model - see as the most profitable thing to do: bet against, and ultimately bring down, the very system that has "saved" them. This is how perverted the entire scheme has become. The money taken from you by your "leaders" will be, and already is, used to bring you to your knees.

It’s sort of like one of those autoimmune diseases, where the body attacks and kills itself, using its own defenses, isn't it, a kind of zombie disease? Then again, at least we seek to cure those .....

theautomaticearth.com/Fin...ystem-attacks-itself.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-13   21:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1205. To: mcgowanjm (#1203)

There's nothing new about the right way to restructure a bankrupt company; it's been done a million times. But it's done not this time, not in Europe and not in the US. As a result, the whole banking system is now a $1 quadrillion zombie system, held up by zombie money that is injected into it in our name, no matter that if we don't have it. And our grandchildren will be born with a million dollars or so each in debt right from the get-go. And we’ll tell them we love them, and believe ourselves when we say it....

you are making sense.

what slipped into your wheaties jim? whatever it is keep some around:)

------always bet on black------

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-06-14   1:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1206. To: A K A Stone (#0)

E-mail Print PDF Wednesday, 23 Rajab 1433 Wednesday, 13 June 2012 08:56

image PARWAN, Jun. 13 – According to the latest news as many as 40 US-led invaders and local puppets have so far been killed and about two dozens injured as well as 2 armored tanks and 3 rangers vehicles being destroyed in the battle unleashing

Wednesday morning in Siyagard district of Afghanistan’s northern Parwan province and is still underway.

Mujahideen officials say the fighting broke out after the combined invaders and minions’ joint military convoys of about 300 tanks and military vehicles got caught in Mujahideen ambush at about 6:00 a.m. local time on the outskirts of this district. A new report indicates that the fighting is still going on, besides the fatalities caused to the enemies, more than 20 of the joint enemy soldiers have been deadly wounded.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-14   6:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1207. To: e_type_jag (#1205)

Changed nothing, e. U don't mind me calling U e, eh?

Your mind's been wandering. U lost the script, and now you're found....again.....praise the lord.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-14   6:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1208. To: e_type_jag (#1205)

you are making sense.

what slipped into your wheaties jim? whatever it is keep some around:)

Here's some of what you've been missing, e....

#1167. To: All (#1166) (Edited)

Finance channels are saturated, debt is unproductive. All new debts taken on are to service old debts rather than afford goods and services. Debts are ‘dead money’: the only way to retire them are by way of Ponzi schemes and loan-shark lending. Borrowers cannot find lenders because all sources have been tapped already. Lenders cannot find creditable borrowers. This was the entire point of globalization, to tap all sources of world capital, benefits lasted only until global demand for capital ballooned to consume it.

www.economic-undertow.com/2012/06/11/agonistas/

News for ireland asks for Spain's deal

AFP

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-14   6:58:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1209. To: e_type_jag you are making sense. All (#1208) (Edited)

you are making sense.

Arctic passes 400 ppm CO2....never mind about Climate Change....nothing to be done now....;}

Recently, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicted that this summer would be consistent with this past winter that wasn’t — that is, hot. I double-checked by looking at the data from the Arctic. As expected, ice melt was accelerating faster than average.

A few days after that confirming data came through, Jon Gottschalck, head of operations of NOAA’s Climate Prediction Center, said, “There’s definitely a tilt toward being above normal (temperatures) through the summer.” Records we don’t want to break

From other NOAA agencies came the conclusions that last year the United States underwent the hottest 12-month period ever recorded. This continued through the first four months of this year, clocking in the period of May 2011 through April 2012 as the warmest on record. Another record continued to be broken also — For 326 months in a row the monthly temperatures have been hotter than the entire 20th century average. That’s almost 28 years of data.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-14   7:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1210. To: All (#1209)

Stop bailing out banks 2012

June 8 by Ian Welsh

The correct thing to do is to force them to take their losses, making the shareholders and bondholders eat it.

Kick out the management

(Arrest them for Fraud), cut the banks up into smaller entities then refloat.

It is cheaper, avoids moral hazard and leaves you with banks which are actually solvent and can lend.

The lengths to which we will go to avoid doing the right, smart, obvious thing are astonishing.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-14   7:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1211. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

www.theoilage.com/post61103.html#p61103

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-14   9:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1212. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#1147)

What Jesus said was, "Nicodemus, marvel not that I said unto thee, all of you need to be born again." This is very important. Not only Nicodemus needed to be saved. But everybody, including him, needed to be born again. That's why Jesus used the plural. www.chick.com/ask/articles/nkjv.asp

Ah a Jack Chick fan. Me too. Here is the latest HTML: click on arrow to load.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-14   15:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1213. To: mcgowanjm (#1207)

U don't mind me calling U e, eh

e is fine jim:)

------always bet on black------

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-06-14   18:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1214. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#290. To: All (#0)

"the ruling class is the ruling class because of their magnificent virtue and hard work. They deserve their privilege, power and wealth. And you? If you can't manage to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps -- even though the last bootstrap was destroyed a generation or two ago, and even though you are unable to grasp a bootstrap or anything else since the ruling class cut off your hands -- well, you deserve to die."

Arthur Silber

Here it comes.

The rulers will first try to steal the Election,

then they will try to manipulate it,

then they will try to buy off the winner, or coopt him/her....;}

if when that fails they will go callously brutal on the Bottom 99%'s ass....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-15   7:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1215. To: All (#1214)

"The immense psychological toll and the sense of desperation are further underscored:

Highly educated young people are desperate to emigrate. Families are putting their property up for sale to pay debts. Banks long ago stopped lending. Casual conversations between friends end in tears."

Still, I doubt the refusal to give up on the failed myth will be limited to North Carolina politicians, San Francisco New Age aficionados, and avant-garde publishers.

I suspect, rather, that the refusal to recognize and deal with the end of progress will become a massive social force in the decade or so ahead of us, and that the great divide in American society

during those years will not be the one between left and right, or between rich and poor, but between those who have accepted history’s verdict on our fantasy of perpetual progress, on the one hand, and those who cling to the fantasy despite all disconfirmations, on the other.

Since refusing to recognize the fact of decline is a good way to get clobbered over the head by one or another of that fact’s manifestations—a point that the inhabitants of coastal North Carolina are likely to find out the hard way one of these days—those who choose the path of denial may be in for a very rough road indeed

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...2/06/parting-of-ways.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-15   7:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1216. To: All (#1214)

" But the child was taught that facts, logic and argument don't matter. What matters is obedience, including obedience to the edicts of one's own tribe. For the Nazis, the enemy was Jews and other designated groups.

For us, it is "terrorists," a term used without regard to evidence or specific meaning. But as devoted, obedient tribalists, we know that "terrorists" are bad. We know they mean to kill us. So we need not wonder what the answer to my earlier question is.

About the mother's lesson in the story, and what she taught her son must be done about the despised Other, I asked: If all else fails, what do we do? "Eliminate them?"

In reply to the urgent prompting of government propagandists, most Americans enthusiastically scream: "Yes!!!"

powerofnarrative.blogspot...-bestial-culture-iii.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-15   7:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1217. To: A K A Stone (#0)

According to the Ruling Class USSAMSM, you'd think there was absolutely nothing going on this week end:

" I wrote about hideous spectacles of this kind in a lengthy piece a year ago: "Caught Up in Nightmare: Killing Jack Rabbits." Here's one pertinent passage:

If we broaden our perspective, and if we look beyond particular developments and attempt to grasp what is happening over a longer period of time,

the nature of the horror that awaits us takes on a clearer shape: The West's ruling class is embarked on a program of killing and elimination. A general caution should be kept in mind.

I'm not suggesting that this program is one that the ruling class has explicitly identified, even to itself, at least not necessarily. The ruling class is intent upon increasing its own power and wealth; in one sense, that is its only concern.

I suppose, in some fantasy world, the ruling class would be content to enjoy its immense power and wealth while "ordinary" people pursue their own lives of contentment. This, of course, is the goal which the ruling class announces, and which it desperately tries to convince both itself and us is true."

Arthur Silber

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-15   8:33:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1218. To: e_type_jag (#1213)

e is fine jim:)

Was your mother heavily sedated when she came up with that?

Or did your dad pull it out of his rolodex?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-15   9:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1219. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#306. To: All (#0) (Edited)

We're in a Depression.

We're not getting out.

100% of U.S. Jobs Added Since 2010 Have Been Self-Employment, Contractor, or Other Jobs Without Unemployment Insurance Benefits

Self-employed workers and contractors are not eligible for unemployment benefits even though they have to contribute to state unemployment insurance schemes. It believe it is government-sponsored fraud to have to pay unemployment insurance when there is no chance of ever collecting it.

globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/

I suppose, in some fantasy world, the ruling class would be content to enjoy its immense power and wealth while "ordinary" people pursue their own lives of contentment. This, of course, is the goal which the ruling class announces, and which it desperately tries to convince both itself and us is true.

But we don't live in that fantasy world. In this world -- and, I would argue, in any world where brute power is the final means of settling every dispute, especially when that power is consolidated in the State --

the ruling class seeks power and wealth by dominating and controlling the weaker segments of society. The ruling class may not set out to kill those people it finds unnecessary for its aims,

but if the ruling class can maintain and increase its power and wealth only by eliminating them, it will eventually eliminate them. This is the logic of the ruling class's desires. It is certainly true that the ruling class could change much of this if it wished to:

the productive capacity of both England and the United States could be reinvigorated, and much new wealth could be created and enjoyed by many more members of society. But the ruling class believes that would necessitate the diminishment of its power and wealth, so they will not consider the possibility seriously.

Arthur Silber

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-15   9:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1220. To: Mad Dog (#1200)

Cognitive dissonance....

leading to brain anuerism....;}

Morning...nothing changed...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-15   9:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1221. To: All (#1220)

The ruling class dreamed a nightmare, and made it real. We are now caught up in it. For many of us -- certainly for me, and very possibly for you -- the end result is clear: the ruling class intends to kill us. Not today or tomorrow, the ruling class hasn't reached that point of desperation quite yet, but they'll kill us soon enough. We have no value to them; we're superfluous; we're not needed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-15   9:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1222. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, TooConservative (#1221)

The ruling class dreamed a nightmare, and made it real. We are now caught up in it. For many of us -- certainly for me, and very possibly for you -- the end result is clear: the ruling class intends to kill us. Not today or tomorrow, the ruling class hasn't reached that point of desperation quite yet, but they'll kill us soon enough. We have no value to them; we're superfluous; we're not needed.

JM, thought of you when I saw this Chick cartoon. Since you are a self described Black, gay, gnostic pagan and Muslim:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-15   14:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1223. To: mcgowanjm (#1218) (Edited)

Was your mother heavily sedated when she came up with that?

Or did your dad pull it out of his rolodex?

i never asked yet but maybe i should now that you mention it

we have a little boy who is now asking for a sibling to play with.

i've thought that it's probably not a bad idea from a reliability / failure mode or worst case analysis perspective that we do in fact have a backup in case something goes wrong with the existing pre adolescent unit we now have.

she is a somewhat ambivalent but seems to be coming around to the idea.

i have already come up with a nickname for he or she and that is "spare".

the wife is less enthusiastic about that idea.....although she did let me name 2 of our cats "flat" and "dead".

------always bet on black------

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-06-15   17:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1224. To: A K A Stone (#1147)

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool them Texan flies.

A cowboy from Texas was at a fund-raising function for Barack Obama’s reelection. When Obama discovered the cowboy was from George W. Bush’s home area, he started to belittle him by talking in a southern drawl and single syllable words.

As he was doing that, he kept swatting at some flies that were buzzing around his head. The cowboy says, “Y’all havin’ some problem with them circle flies?”

Obama stopped talking and said, “Well, yes, if that’s what they’re called, but I’ve never heard of circle flies.”

“Well, sir,” the cowboy replies, “Circle flies hang around ranches. They’re called circle flies because they’re almost always found circling around the back end of a horse.”

“Oh,” Obama replies as he goes back to rambling. But a moment later he stops and bluntly asks, “Are you calling me a horse’s ass?”

“No, sir,” the cowboy replies, “I have too much respect for the citizens of this country to call their president a horse’s ass.”

“That’s a good thing,” Obama responds and begins rambling on once more.

After a long pause, the cowboy, in his best Texas drawl says, “Hard to fool them flies, though.”

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-15   17:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1225. To: mcgowanjm (#1201)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-15   19:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1226. To: e_type_jag (#1205)

------always bet on black------

Gotta ask...

(?)

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-15   19:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1227. To: Liberator (#1226)

line from a wesley snipes movie

------always bet on black------

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-06-16   0:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1228. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

No matter what the country, the dates are Always the same....;}

"Colin Powell is a liar. He can pretend all he wants but the record bears out the reality that he has repeatedly misled over and over. That is lying

The clearest result of this bribery for many Yemenis was the signing of the Jeddah border agreement in 2000,

whereby Yemen eventually conceded the decades-long disputed provinces of Asir, Najran, and Jizan.

Tthe border dispute is decades old. During the signing of the Taif border agreement in 1934,

it was considered a “pact of Islamic friendship and Arab brotherhood between the Kingdom of Yemen and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.” When President Ibrahim al-Hamdi took power in 1974,

discussion returned about the need to settle the border dispute between Yemen and Saudi. The source indicated that during Hamdi’s visit to the Saudi region of Taif during his 3-year term in office, the border issue was introduced. Hamdi is said to have replied: I am still in Yemeni territory. If you wish to discuss the issue, we can start with this point.

The issue was later forgotten following his assassination.

Under al-Hamdi's administration Yemen enjoyed the most prosperous economic boom since 1962,

as he was responsible for a civil engineering endeavour that would rival that of any country. On October 11, 1977

al-Hamdi was murdered along with his brother by Saudi Arabian funded agents believed to be from the Al-Ahmar tribe[citation needed] who are known dependents of the Saudi monarchy[citation needed]. Their goal was to slow down the progress of Yemen's unification.[citation needed] To this day al-Hamdi remains as Yemen's most beloved President.[citation needed].

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   8:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1229. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

The Age of Denial. The Age of No Consequences is now over.

Time Period:

September 15, 2008 - June 12, 2012

McCain: 'The Economy is fine.' to Obama: 'The Private Economy is fine.'

"The earth isn’t dying; it is being killed. And “clean energy” will only make things worse.

I should probably begin by introducing myself; my name is Alex, and I’m a recovering renewable energy advocate. For years, I was a victim of desperation and hope; I petitioned and parlayed, chanted and canvassed; I brimmed with excitement at the prospect of “green jobs” and a “renewable energy economy.” I still see much of myself in many of you.

I know what it’s like. I know exactly how it feels to look around and see a world not just dying but being suffocated, being tortured and maimed, sacrificed on the twin altars of profit and production. As a young person today,

I know what it’s like to fear the future, to fear for my future. I—like many of you—have read all the studies and reports I need to see to know what’s coming, what disaster is now screaming, all but unchallenged, down the track upon us

http://dgrnewsservice.org/2012/0...fellow-environmentalists/.

Before the arrival of industrial civilization on this continent, you could breathe the air and drink the water. A short 500 years later, every single mother in the world has dioxin (a chemical commonly called “the most toxic in the world”) in her breast milk, 98% of forests have been destroyed, half of all men and one third of all women now get cancer7, and the Colorado River no longer reaches the ocean.

Those systems which are destroying the planet—industrial agriculture, the extractive industries (industrial mining, fishing, logging, etc), the fossil fuel infrastructure, and exploitative systems of power—must be strategically dismantled and replaced by independent cultures of direct democracy that are fully integrated with their land bases and local ecosystems.

The Earth cannot afford any alternative, for the alternative is to let the dominant culture consume what little remains of the natural world.."

The above person is well intentioned, but humans aren't running the operation any more, if they ever were.

Nature will be just fine 20 000 years from now. You won't even know, except for about 400 or so rapidly diminishing Radioactive Hot Spots, that humans were even here.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   8:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1230. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

Post Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:26 am by mcgowanjm The Age of Non Consequences or the Age of Denial is now over...

Mark it. Your fave numerology date of this coming week.

I've chosen:

062112

Just like 30 years ago this week when the

Reagan/Greenspan Commodities Trading Act was rolled out.

I had a hedge trade on that blew up because of that 'Act', so I remember it well.

When you look at any chart covering the time, you can see it to the day.

The Stock Markets soared. The Recession was over. And no one could explain why.

$1.75 Quadrillion later (love to give Jamie Dimon this number and see his reply :twisted: ) in Synthetic Investment Vehicles (See Enron JP Morgan;) and we have our answer.

ALL commodities charts have either formed a huge flag/pennant here or have dropped to the bottom of a Major Support level.

The Greek Election will be the explosion of the fuse that's been burning since September 15, 2008.

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Post Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:33 am by mcgowanjm Re: Empire Manufacturing PLUNGES, misses big

Post Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:33 am by mcgowanjm While China's been just another copy of our Kleptocratic Plutarchy.

Most Chinese savings however are not invested in see-through apartment buildings. Bank deposits still dominate. The Chinese banks are the finest deposit franchises in human history.

They can borrow huge amounts at ex-ante negative real returns. And those deposits are mostly lent to State Owned enterprises.

The SOEs are the center of the Chinese kleptocracy.

If you manage your way up the Communist Party of China and you play your politics really well may wind up senior in some State Owned Enterprise. This is your opportunity to loot on a scale unprecedented in human history.

And what is the end result?: The Chinese Government (and the banks are part of the government even though they are listed) has access to seemingly unlimited bank deposits at negative real costs. When you have copious funds at a negative cost a lot of investments that look stupid under some circumstances suddenly look sensible.

US Treasuries look just fine. Don't think the Chinese are going to stop holding Treasuries. The Treasuries yield far more than they pay the peasants. The Chinese make a positive arbitrage on holding low rate US bonds.

hipcrime.blogspot.com/

Swap a few names and the resemblance with the System of the USSA is uncanny... :twisted:

While Russia has copied our political/diplomatic system. While covering our empire with it's own very precise choke point system. See Tartus Naval Base/Cyprus Bail Out bidding war for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   9:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1231. To: A K A Stone (#0)

TWO Examples of Hit & Run

The victim is 20-year-old Sheila Moreta who had just finished her first shift at Wendy’s.

She was biking home when a gray BMW, driven by 23-year-old Angelica Barroso, hit Moreta, dragging her body into the corner of the road, before taking off. While Moreta’s friend frantically tried to flag down help, Moreta was hit by a second car.

The BMW’s license plates fell off the car at the scene and police were able to track Barroso down. They found her an hour-and-a-half later.

At a lunch that followed Powell's presentation, diplomats said he responded to the French foreign minister's concerns about the impact war with Iraq would have on the region by saying, "I wasn't talking about war, but about strengthening inspections."

The diplomats said Powell also made clear to Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin that the United States is not ready to go to war immediately, and is interested in hearing France's proposals to strengthen inspections with the added value of the evidence Powell presented.

Yes, liars usually will trip themselves up. Like today when Powell tells Kira Zalan: And when I gave it, people stopped and listened. And the president by that time had already decided that combat would be necessary, he decided that sometime in January.

And now it's 5 February and I'm simply telling people why it may be necessary.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   9:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1232. To: All (#1231)

"Months of exclusive reporting on this website that 66-year old Hervey Medellin, the decapitation victim known as the Hollywood Head, was not murdered as the result of a 'gay love triangle gone wrong,' as reported, but because of long-standing connections to drug trafficking through the notorious and now-defunct Cali Cartel was confirmed (typically, without attribution) by a local TV newscast in L.A.

Still, the news caused nary a ripple. The reason:

For 72 hours last week some of the biggest guns of the world’s major media—TIME, ABC NEWS, CNN, CBS, Reuters, FOX NEWS, London newspapers The Observer, The Independent, and the tabloid SUN and Daily Mail, the New York Observer,even Gawker— pounded home a conspiracy theory to readers and TV viewers as rank and baseless as anything on the farthest fringes of the Internet, where, to cite one example, the role of alien locusts in the 9/11 attack is understood within a Biblical framework.

It was a tsunami of disinformation. It swept away the truth.

Incredibly, six months after the severed head of former Mexicana Airlines “steward” Hervey Medellin was discovered on a trail beneath the Hollywood Sign, the major media’s suggested explanation remains what it was in the immediate aftermath of the crime:

“It’s a gay thing.”

The question is 'why.' The answer can be seen in a graphic of recent decapitations and dismemberment in North America.

The media was atwitter about connections between Montreal's Canadian Cannibal and a murder 3000 miles away in Los Angeles. Yet no talk at all about Mexico, only 120 miles from L.A.. where there were a total of 81 decapitated and dismembered bodies found…just last month.

We weren't even able to stick enough pins close enough (using Google maps) to represent the carnage."

www.madcowprod.com/2012/0...hollywood-head/#more-1087

" As the body count climbs across Mexico, the drugs continue flowing across the border by the ton.

Despite the evident disconnect--a "war" on drugs that increases the supply while lowering the price, in the best tradition of our reigning "free market" ideology--the American media regales the public with fairy tales of heroic "warriors" doing battle with murderous gangsters named "Joaquín," "Jorge" and "Amado."

The fact is, more likely than not, the real narcos taking the biggest cut from deep inside the reeking abattoir of the grisly trade have far less prosaic names like "Brett," "Ethan" or "Jason."

antifascist-calling.blogs...rcos-real-masters-of.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   9:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1233. To: All (#1232)

Pollution handled completely by natural self-repair? Oh, you might indeed label that optimistic!

Also optimistic is any assumption that effects of pollution consist mainly of global warming from greenhouse gases, since that is but one facet of a much broader existential threat from many sources of contamination and their synergistic interactions.

Criticism frequently dismisses the warnings of doomsayers since past predictions haven't come to pass, and attribute doomerism to some neurotic and unrealistic compulsion. But the fact is, we've always been doomed.

You only have to think about it for a few minutes to figure out that endless expansion and growth and extraction and pollution on a finite planet is going to fizzle out sometime or other. Personally, I blame Prometheus - ever since we harnessed fire, it's only been a matter of time.

Should I envy the vast majority of people who manage to not know this? Or should I be grateful for knowledge?

witsendnj.blogspot.com/2012/06/rapid-ruin.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   9:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1234. To: e_type_jag (#1227) (Edited)

line from a wesley snipes movie

What - now I gotta use a line from 'The Godfather' or 'Goodfellas' as MY tagline??

------ WHAT - YOU THINK DAT'S FUNNY?? DO I AMUSE YOU?? I'M FUNNY HOW??!? --------

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   9:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1235. To: mcgowanjm (#1229)

Those systems which are destroying the planet—industrial agriculture, the extractive industries (industrial mining, fishing, logging, etc), the fossil fuel infrastructure, and exploitative systems of power—must be strategically dismantled and replaced by independent cultures of direct democracy that are fully integrated with their land bases and local ecosystems.

WTH does the above BS mean??!?

HEY! Here's a solution:

Let's return to the Stone Age!!

Nature will be just fine 20 000 years from now. You won't even know, except for about 400 or so rapidly diminishing Radioactive Hot Spots, that humans were even here.

Nope. Allow me to clarify:

"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."

Revelations: 21:11 (KJV)

Where will YOU be, Jimmy?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   10:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1236. To: redleghunter (#1225)

" To finish, I would like to point out that many of the comments about the private sector economy are based on an erroneous calculation of private sector real GDP. They seem to think that one can estimate private sector GDP by subtracting government consumption from total GDP.

But that is not correct. Remember, we do not directly estimate output. Rather the GDP data measures consumption and adjust that for changes in trade and inventories to indirectly estimate output.

For example if Boeing builds a 747 or Ford builds a truck it does not show up in GDP as output. It shows up in the GDP accounts in one of five ways.

1. If they sell it to an individual it is recorded in personal consumption expenditures.

2. If they sell it to a business it shows up as business fixed investment.

3. If they export it is recorded in the trade account.

4. If they do not sell it , the jet or truck is counted as an increase in inventories.

5. If they sell it to the government it is recorded as government consumption.

But if the jet or truck or some other good or service is sold to the government it still counts as private sector output just the same as if they had exported it or sold it to an individual or a business. In the GDP accounts, government consumption includes two types of transactions. One is government employment like a policeman or a soldier. The other is government purchases of goods or services from private business. So to correctly estimate private sector GDP you need to subtract only government employment but not government purchases from total GDP. This makes a big difference in the size and growth of the private economy. Every quarter that government purchases grow faster than private sector output it causes the estimate of private GDP derived by subtracting government consumption from total GDP to understate private GDP.

This method of estimating private GDP generates a highly biased estimate. For example,using the correct methodology shows that over the past decade private sector real GPD expanded almost 20% while the estimate derived from subtracting all government consumption from total real GDP concludes that private sector real GDP contracted some -16%.

www.angrybearblog.com/201...te-sector-doing-fine.html

Wo Gov't Wealth Transfer the Private Implodes.

On 062112....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1237. To: Liberator (#1235)

Liberator Those systems which are destroying the planet—industrial agriculture, the extractive industries (industrial mining, fishing, logging, etc), the fossil fuel infrastructure, and exploitative systems of power—must be strategically dismantled and replaced by independent cultures of direct democracy that are fully integrated with their land bases and local ecosystems.

WTH does the above BS mean??!?

Those systems which are destroying the planet—industrial agriculture, the extractive industries (industrial mining, fishing, logging, etc), the fossil fuel infrastructure, and exploitative systems of power....

That the Last 120 years of the Oil Age is now over....we've 'borrowed' according to 'economics', but Stolen is the more appropriate word.

Kinda Exactly like the $1.75 Quadrilion in Synthetic Investment Derivatives starting 30 years ago today, have been stolen.....

...—must be strategically dismantled and replaced by independent cultures of direct democracy that are fully integrated with their land bases and local ecosystems.

TIME'S UP...as of 062112 and the Greek election tomorrow.

The Planet will now take over....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1238. To: Liberator (#1235)

HEY! Here's a solution:

Let's return to the Stone Age!!

The Sooner we crash, the more will be left.

We string this thing out and yes, the less than 400 million left by 2120 will be in a very dirty Stone Age....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1239. To: Liberator (#1235)

Nature will be just fine 20 000 years from now. You won't even know, except for about 400 or so rapidly diminishing Radioactive Hot Spots, that humans were even here.

Nope. Allow me to clarify:

"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."

Revelations: 21:11 (KJV)

Where will YOU be, Jimmy?

First off, you stupid fuck....

It's Mister Jimmie to you....;}

Next:

This ain't bible study class.

And Jesus Fucking Christ...is EVERYONE here a bible thumpin' Fundy?....8D

So where in the bible does it say,

'When you fill up the planet destroying everything need to live on, another planet will be provided....

or does Rapture take care of that....LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1240. To: Liberator (#1235)

Where will YOU be, Jimmy?

Right here....cleaning up your mess you left behind.

You weren't a very good boy scout, were you, Libby....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1241. To: All (#1240)

Russian Warning Shots fired: Syrian Conflict Threatens to Degenerate into World War III By: Thierry Meyssan, sent by Syrian on: 13.06.2012 06:52 The nature of the Syrian crisis has changed. The process of destabilization that was to open the path for legal military intervention by the Atlantic Alliance has failed. Removing its mask, the United States has publicly announced the possibility of attacking Syria without the approval of the Security Council, as it also did in Kosovo. Washington must be pretending not to have noticed that the Russia of Vladimir Putin is not that of Boris Yeltsin. After being assured of Chinese support, Moscow literally fired two warning shots in the direction of Washington. The continuing violations of international law by NATO and the GCC threaten to unleash a global conflict.

The more the USSA talks about Syria, the more the USSA is moving to WWIII....it really is that simple now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1242. To: All (#1241)

Nayef was announced the new heir to the Saudi throne after the death of his full brother, former Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, at a New York hospital on October 22, 2011.

The 79-year-old Nayef, who was also the long-serving interior minister of Saudi Arabia, recently left the kingdom for medical treatment and was seen in Switzerland a few days ago.

Nayef had also traveled for medical reasons to a few countries including Algeria and the United States this year. The nature of his illness has not been made public.

His brother, Prince Ahmed bin Abdul Aziz, was recently quoted as saying in a Saudi daily that the crown prince was in “good health” and that he would “soon” return to Saudi Arabia.

Next in line for the position of crown prince is expected to be Nayef’s younger brother, Prince Salman, who is the minister of defense. However, no one has officially been announced to replace the dead crown prince.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/16/246484/saudi-arabias-nayef-dead-state-tv/

Saudi Arabia has always been nothing but a legal fiction.

Just like Israel.

They'll both go within years of each other.

062112

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-16   10:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1243. To: mcgowanjm (#1201)

libTURD SCUM BLOVIATIONS ......

THIS certainly has NOT changed in any way has it SCUM?

"I feel your pain SCUM.

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-16   14:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1244. To: mcgowanjm (#1220)

libTURD BLOVIATIONS ..... ..... .....

THIS certainly has NOT changed in any way has it SCUM?

"I feel your pain SCUM.

It is a basic rule of writing and exposition that those who have serious and solid things to say do so clearly with brevity.

You libTURDS always use a million words to say NOTHING.

LOL!

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS.

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-16   14:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1245. To: mcgowanjm (#1237)

Those systems which are destroying the planet—industrial agriculture, the extractive industries (industrial mining, fishing, logging, etc), the fossil fuel infrastructure, and exploitative systems of power....

You mean progress and technology are murdering the planet? Has Mother Earth been "exploited" for her water, oil, trees, milk, honey, crops, sand, and ores? How...decadent!

What's your solution again? Living in grass f&%!@#ing huts, eating dung beetles, and drinking out of an alligator creek??

That the Last 120 years of the Oil Age is now over....we've 'borrowed' according to 'economics', but Stolen is the more appropriate word.

But...but..."stolen" from *whom*?? Or what??

..—must be strategically dismantled and replaced by independent cultures of direct democracy that are fully integrated with their land bases and local ecosystems.

We have already established "independent cultures" - where have you been? We live in neighborhoods, vilages, towns, states, and nations. Done so since 5,000 BC.

How would you achieve this "Direct Democracy"? Would it be something of an event resembling Russia, circa 1917?

TIME'S UP...as of 062112 and the Greek election tomorrow. The Planet will now take over....;}

The planet is just a vessel used by man to subsist on it resources. And man is to have dominion over it, as per God's instructions. Abuse was inevitable, Jimmy. But ITMT, you are still contributing to the abuse by tapping on your plastic petro-derived device, driving your car, turning your light switch on, and ingesting food that's used gasoline and pesticides.

Btw - Why aren't you living in a cave or grass hut?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   15:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1246. To: mcgowanjm (#1238)

The Sooner we crash, the more will be left.

The "more" of what? Natural resources? You aren't any more entitled to those resources than you are deciding WHO is or isn't, and how much is harvested.

Who is "we"?? ALL of civilization? You ok? Do you have a fever, Jimmy??

The elites will make sure YOU won't steal their goodies, fellow dirt-napping serf.

We string this thing out and yes, the less than 400 million left by 2120 will be in a very dirty Stone Age....;}

Nothing last forever. Especially not you. The things that are totally out of your control are simply off the wall. Look - go pour yourself a fermented or distilled beverage...

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   15:06:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1247. To: mcgowanjm (#1239)

First off, you stupid fuck....

It's Mister Jimmie to you....;}

Somehow, you still amuse me...lol

Next: This ain't bible study class. And Jesus Fucking Christ...is EVERYONE here a bible thumpin' Fundy?....8D

Dunno. Just be glad our message and 'Good News' keeps afloat JUST in case you wise up and attend to the status of your soul in the next life.

So where in the bible does it say, 'When you fill up the planet destroying everything need to live on, another planet will be provided....or does Rapture take care of that....LMFAO

That's funny sh*t. But blame Satan.

Enjoy:

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   15:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1248. To: mcgowanjm (#1236)

But if the jet or truck or some other good or service is sold to the government it still counts as private sector output just the same as if they had exported it or sold it to an individual or a business.

How is Sister Betrel counted?

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-16   17:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1249. To: mcgowanjm (#1201)

libTURD SCUM BLOVIATIONS .....

THIS certainly has NOT changed in any way has it SCUM?

"I feel your pain SCUM.

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS, (dat's you jimmy boy).

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-16   23:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1250. To: mcgowanjm (#1220)

libTURD BLOVIATIONS

LOL!

IF nothing had changed y'all, THIS could not be posted, dig? jimmy boy ya?

Your libTURD bLoViAtIoNs, are SOP for YOU jimmy boy.

THIS certainly has NOT changed in any way has it SCUM?

"I feel your pain SCUM.

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS, (dat's you jimmy boy).

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-16   23:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1251. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#317. To: All (#0)

In 1916, Emir of Mecca Sharif Hussein bin Ali proclaimed himself king of an independent Hijaz following the disintegration of the Ottoman Empire after World War I. In 1924, however, Bin Ali's authority was usurped by the Al Saud family who ruled the neighboring region of Nejd. They annexed the territory into what became known as the Kingdom of Hijaz and Nejd and later the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

It's one of those times where people who've been slugging away, 'take a break.'

And the MSM has absolutely nothing to say about anything.

And if it does, it's to downplay, or cover.

Jun 01, 2012 Fourteen insurgents killed in failed attack in Khowst Written by RC-East Public Affairs

BAGRAM, Afghanistan – Afghan and coalition forces successfully repelled an attack on a forward operating base in Khowst province today. At around 1 p.m., several insurgents wearing suicide vests attacked the FOB in Khowst. Afghan and International Security Assistance Force service members successfully repelled the attack and secured the base. Reports indicate fourteen insurgents were killed in the attack. At this time there are no reports of ISAF fatalities.

But that's not what happened....;}

www.washingtonpost.com/wo.../16/gJQAlyaihV_print.html

KABUL — A June 1 attack on a U.S. outpost near the Afghanistan-Pakistan border was much worse than originally disclosed by the military as insurgents pounded the base with a truck bomb, killing two Americans and seriously wounding about three dozen troops, officials acknowledged Saturday.

The blast flattened the dining hall and post exchange at Forward Operating Base Salerno in Khost province, a frequent target of insurgents in the past. Five Afghan civilians were killed and more than 100 other U.S. troops were treated for minor injuries. U.S. officials estimated that the truck was carrying 1,500 pounds of explosives.

U.S. and Afghan military officials said they killed 14 insurgents, many of whom were wearing suicide vests."

Now the Taliban version which I posted here on that day:

It'll be easier to find it here, where I posted it on TPF.

In the meantime, here's what happened yesterday:

" * Home * News * Weekly Analysis * Statements * Articles * Movies * Interviews * Contact us

25 security guards killed and wounded in attack on convoy, 9 vehicles eliminated Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 27 Rajab 1433 Sunday, 17 June 2012 07:47

FARAH, Jun. 17 – At least 15 escort security guards were killed, 10 wounded while 4 escort security vehicles and 5 fuel tankers were destroyed at around 02:00 pm Saturday when Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate carried out a wide scale attack amid operation Al-Farooq on a nato logistical convoy in Gulistan district’s Pitawak, Jawza and others areas.

It is said that another escort security vehicle was also blown to pieces by a landmine near Habibullah petrol pump during the ambush, killing all 4 puppet"

A sure sign that the Non Linear break is here.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-17 7:34:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #318. To: All (#216)

And here it is:

And except for Fred Mertz, zero replies.

"#195. To: Robin, All (#194)

#962. To: A K A Stone (#0)

With Obama's 4:12 AM MayDay Bagram Speech, immediately boarding his plane and taking off as the Taliban attacked,

I knew we were at the EndGame. By Xmas the USSA would be out.

You can tell by how a Major Bank is imploding now. The Domestic mirrors the Foreign:

"Print KHOST, Jun. 02 – More than 100 US invading terrorists and tens of their puppets were killed and wounded in the martyrdom operation hit Sahrah Bagh airbase in Khost province.

According to the details, about 11 martyrdom-seeking heroes of Islamic Emirate, Shamsullah and Azimullah Khan coming from Paktia province, Muhammad Naeem, Atiqullah, Muhammad Yaqoob Ibrahimi, Karimullah and Sabeer residents of Ghazni province, Hafiz saifullah from Paktika province, Abdullah from Nangarhar and Abdurrahman from Logar province, stormed Sahra Bagh airfield in capital of Khost province, homes to hundreds of American invading troops.

The team of 11 martyr combatants armored with heavy and small arms and explosives vests in the US military uniforms got into the facility after slamming an explosive-filled truck into the airbase building.

Firstly, Shamsullah on Friday at about 1:00 p.m. carried out a martyr attack trough a truck packed with 10 tons of explosives roughly 10 thousand kilo grams, targeting the hotels and dining areas and gyms within the base in which dozens of the American cowardly troops were blowing to pieces and eliminated.

Soon after this huge and powerful explosion, 10 of 11 martyrdom-seeking Mujahideen entered the base facility and fought with rockets, hand grenades, explosive vests and heavy and light machine guns till 4:00 p.m., killing and wounding several dozens of US invading terrorist troops.

At about 5:00 p.m. Mujahideen detonated a motorbike parked outside near the gate of the base at puppets assisting the invaders in which more than 20 Afghan puppet soldiers were killed and wounded, whereas as many as 170 motorcycles were destroyed in the explosion.

The operation went on till the evening hours of the day in manner that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate took the airbase under attack from both inside by 10 combatants fighting the invading forces inside the base and from outside by other Mujahideen which made the enemy forces unable to use any aerial support. Two attack helicopters and a huge military plane as well as many tanks, fuel tankers, vehicles and fuel depots were set on fire and burned to ash.

It was the worst single-day losses for the US invaders and their puppets since the “Operation AL-Farooq” began and the local and western-flounced media’s reports on this successful operation are one-sided and based on false propaganda which attempt to understate the most lethal losses inflicted on the enemies, in particular on US invaders and undermine Mujahideen success. On the other hand, locals of the area and the US invaders themselves are well aware of the ground reality which speaks for itself.

And I left this in because the BBC has apologized, O SO QUIETLY for 'buying the spin' on HOULA.....;}

" Both the Guardian and the BBC depend entirely on the logical fallacy of appealing to authority - be it an allegedly qualified witness, or satellite imagery and overwhelming techno-babble. Both news agencies have demonstratively failed to provide any actual evidence to back the narrative they have been irresponsibly reporting since Houla erupted into violence last week.

The narrative has shifted from the Syrian army shelling civilians to death, to soldiers dismounting from tanks and killing civilians at close range, to pro-government militias dismounting from tanks and killing civilians at close range, and now finally, militants in cars, trucks, and on motorbikes killing civilians at close range - which seems to corroborate the Syrian government's own conclusion, that it was terrorists.

The BBC has already been caught outright misrepresenting events in Houla, when they used a picture of dead bodies taken years ago from Iraq in their recent Syrian coverage."

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-03 8:16:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #965. To: All (#964)

Now let's see the USSAMedia's reaction to this EpicFail.

"ReutersReuters – Fri, Jun 1, 2012

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KHOST, Afghanistan (Reuters) - A blast was heard in the eastern Afghan city of Khost on Friday and smoke was rising near a NATO base, a Reuters witness and nearby residents said.

There was no immediate word on casualties. NATO said it was aware of an incident in the area but it was too early to comment. The Afghan Taliban said its fighters rammed a vehicle packed with large amounts of explosives into the base.

Violence has surged across Afghanistan since the Taliban began its yearly summer offensive in April, vowing to target Afghan government and security forces, as well as the 130,000 foreign troops in the country.

A police source said a gunbattle was raging near the base and local security forces were not able to get close to the area.

(Reporting by Elyas Wahdat in KHOST and Hamid Shalizi in KABUL; Writing by Michael Georgy; Editing by Ed Lane)

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-03 8:19:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #966. To: All (#965)

Stars & Stripes:

"Attack on coalition base in Khost thwarted Stars and Stripes Published: June 1, 2012

Insurgents detonated an explosives-laden truck near the gate of a major American base in Eastern Afghanistan on Friday, kicking off a gun battle in which more than a dozen attackers were killed, U.S. military officials said.

The attackers made it inside the perimeter but no Afghan or U.S. troops were killed, though both U.S. and Afghan troops suffered minor injuries.

The U.S. military has not released the number of injuries or whether civilians were hurt.

The attack began around 1 p.m. at Camp Salerno just outside of Khost, the capital of Khost province. After the initial explosion insurgents, some wearing suicide vests, continued the attack but were repelled by U.S. and Afghan troops, said Maj. Paul Haverstick, a spokesman for the International Security Assistance Force’s Regional Command-East. At least two of the attackers detonated their vests and Haverstick said roughly 14 insurgents died in the attack.

“They tried a complex attack ... and it failed because of the quick reaction of the forces on the ground,” Haverstick said.

The Associated Press quoted a Taliban spokesman as saying that “tens” of foreign forces were killed and wounded and that a plane on an airstrip was destroyed, though the Taliban often exaggerates casualty claims."

Someone is working hard to find if a video exists.....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-03 8:22:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #967. To: All (#966)

In this report, the last of the three, NYT, WaPo, AP don't even bother to file....

AFP

1. NATO: Afghan insurgents attack coalition base Idaho Press-Tribune‎ - 2 days ago KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghan officials say a bomb has exploded at a U.S.-led coalition base outside of Khost, the ... You Report News ...

The report has been replaced by a hostage rescue....;}

Amerika won't know until lines start forming outside the bank. And even then the majority will go, 'I don't have any money in the bank to get...'

'Maybe I should go get an extra big Advanced PayDay Loan......;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-03 8:27:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #968. To: mcgowanjm (#965)

Several fighters, including some wearing suicide vests, attacked the base with rocket propelled grenades on Friday.

"As of now, we have reports of 14 insurgents killed," a spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force said.

He said the attack on the forward operating base had been foiled, although he was not in a position to provide operational details. There were no casualties among either NATO or Afghan forces.

www.aljazeera.com/news/as...6/201261124513910377.html

Wow, our guys are invincible!

Fred Mertz posted on 2012-06-03 8:28:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #969. To: All (#967)

AFP 1.

NATO: Afghan insurgents attack coalition base Idaho Press-Tribune‎ - 2 days ago

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghan officials say a bomb has exploded at a U.S.-led coalition base outside of Khost, the ... You Report News ... The Taliban have responded by opening up new fronts in the north and west and stepping up attacks in the east, where much of the heaviest fighting is presently concentrated.

MY Edit: And what 'Heavy Fighting' is that? I ain't heard no stinkin' reports of heavy fighting? How are we supposed to Support Our Troops if we don';t know what we're supporting?

"It was a very strong blast. Khost city shook and we heard firing," Zazai said. Gula Jan, an Afghan police official who was at the scene, said the attack occurred at Camp Salerno.

Jan said six civilians – three women and three children – were slightly wounded when a wall collapsed from the force of the explosion.

My Edit: Please...at the gates of Camp Sa;erno are nothing but Day Care Centerts?....LMFAO

NATO (whoever they are. Noting absolutely ZERO named officials ever comment for the record.....;}

said it had no reports of any civilians being hurt during the attack.

Lulzzzzz....;}

"The blast was inside the compound and then we heard firing," Jan said. "There is a helicopter flying over the base."

But again, No one but Taliban were killed. And Just took 14 shots to kill all 14....;}

U.S. Army Maj. Paul Haverstick, a spokesman for the coalition in eastern Afghanistan, said no Afghan or foreign troops were killed and only a few coalition forces suffered minor injuries.

So Paul knows....at least we have a name... Haverstick said insurgents detonated a truck loaded with explosives at the entrance to the camp. The explosion allowed other insurgents to enter the compound. Two militants wearing explosive vests blew themselves up prematurely and caused no damage.

My Edit: So the insurgents are inside the base now, but since there was no one at the entrance except for a Day Care Center, no one got hurt, as the Insurgents tripped over each other in their haste to get to an actuall target inside Camp Salerno.....;}

Afghan and coalition forces fired at the group of insurgents. A total of 14 militants died in the attack, he said. Zabiullah Mujahid, a spokesman for the Taliban, claimed that a suicide bomber targeted the base in an explosives-filled vehicle that slipped onto the compound near where coalition troops dine. He said in a statement that after the blast, other insurgents entered the compound on foot and opened fire.

"They had suicide vests, rocket-propelled grenades, heavy machine guns and hand grenades," Mujahid said. Mujahid claimed that an airplane on an airstrip at the base was destroyed and that "tens" of foreign forces were killed and wounded. The Taliban often exaggerate the number of casualties caused by their attacks. NATO said no airplane was destroyed during the attack. Forward Operating Base Salerno has a large Soviet-built airfield.

It is near Camp Chapman, where seven CIA employees were killed in a suicide attack in December 2009. Salerno and its outlying fire bases have been the focus of repeated militant suicide, artillery and sniper attacks over the past several years. One of the most brazen of the war occurred in August, 2008, when about 100 Taliban fighters broke through the perimeter of the base.

After a two-hour fire fight, helicopter gunships forced the guerrillas to retreat. On May 19, a suicide bomber blew himself up at a police checkpoint in Ali Sher district of Khost province, killing 13 people – 10 civilians, two Afghan policemen and an Afghan border police officer. "

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   7:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1252. To: All (#1251)

So, In lieu of the above, it should be about July 2 before we find this out from the USSAMSM:

" * Home * News * Weekly Analysis * Statements * Articles * Movies * Interviews * Contact us

25 security guards killed and wounded in attack on convoy, 9 vehicles eliminated Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 27 Rajab 1433 Sunday, 17 June 2012 07:47

FARAH, Jun. 17 – At least 15 escort security guards were killed, 10 wounded while 4 escort security vehicles and 5 fuel tankers were destroyed at around 02:00 pm Saturday when Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate carried out a wide scale attack amid operation Al-Farooq on a nato logistical convoy in Gulistan district’s Pitawak, Jawza and others areas.

It is said that another escort security vehicle was also blown to pieces by a landmine near Habibullah petrol pump during the ambush, killing all 4 puppet."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   7:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1253. To: redleghunter, mad dog, All (#1248)

So. In bible study class, do you ever discuss the military or the banksters?

Or just that you'll get everything the military and banksters have now when you get to heaven in your next life.

" It's asking a lot to expect Americans to question the national belief system and think outside the box of exceptionalism. Unlimited resources and steady progress toward infinite horizons are all that most of us have ever known or expected. Without those fundamental expectations, the American dream is impossible.

Without the dream, the United States is impossible. There would be no common ambition of growth and prosperity to hold us all together. Without the dream, a chaotic explosion of collective anger and dispair (sic) would likely tear the US apart.

Small wonder then that most American citizens cling so desperately to hopeful visions of the future and cherished memories of the past. We've enjoyed our vivid and exciting dream for hundreds of years. Who would wish for that dream to end? What kind of American would willingly rise from their lifelong reverie and go forth to trudge down a dreary road of diminished expectations, limited possibilities and meager comforts?

A traitor, that's who. An enemy of the United States and everything it stands for. We are all traitors here and should expect to be treated as such by those who have not yet awakened.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   8:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1254. To: Liberator (#1247)

Next: This ain't bible study class. And Jesus Fucking Christ...is EVERYONE here a bible thumpin' Fundy?....8D

Dunno. Just be glad our message and 'Good News' keeps afloat JUST in case you wise up and attend to the status of your soul in the next life.

So where in the bible does it say, 'When you fill up the planet destroying everything need to live on, another planet will be provided....or does Rapture take care of that....LMFAO

That's funny sh*t. But blame Satan.

Yes. You do know....;}

'our message'....LMFAO....

You give a rat's ass about my soul.

Love that, 'JUST in case'.

Too bad, you're 'JUST in case' story plays right into Evil's story. But good thing that POWER always trumps religion & evil....;}

Just takes awhile, here on Planet Hell....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   8:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1255. To: redleghunter, liberator, All (#1248)

"We cannot look to the conscience of the world when our own conscience is asleep."

Carl von Ossietzky

"Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act."

Dietrich Bonhoeffer

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   8:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1256. To: e_type_jag (#1223)

"Come here, Spare, Flat. Right now"....

has a certain weird connotation to it...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   8:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1257. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Of course this happened.

There's a reason for a Holocaust Museum in the Imperial City.... for jews...

But not one for either Blacks or First Nation....;}

"After combing through obscure records, newspapers and journals Downs believes that about a quarter of the four million freed slaves either died or suffered from illness between 1862 and 1870. He writes in the book that it can be considered "the largest biological crisis of the 19th century" and yet it is one that has been little investigated by contemporary historians.

Downs believes much of that is because at the time of the civil war, which raged between 1861 and 1865 and pitted the unionist north against the confederate south, many people did not want to investigate the tragedy befalling the freed slaves. Many northerners were little more sympathetic than their southern opponents when it came to the health of the freed slaves and anti-slavery abolitionists feared the disaster would prove their critics right.

"In the 19th century people did not want to talk about it. Some did not care and abolitionists, when they saw so many freed people dying, feared that it proved true what some people said: that slaves were not able to exist on their own," Downs told the Observer."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   8:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1258. To: mcgowanjm (#1254) (Edited)

'our message'....LMFAO....

You give a rat's ass about my soul.

Love that, 'JUST in case'.

I do, though.

Jimmy, our essence IS "our soul". It survives this state of consciousness just as it dwells in a Dream State.

Life is NOT a random accident. That notion is irrational and does-not-compute.

Consider why a Creator of the Universe would NOT give us the key to the reason we are here...and His Final Plan. Yes..."JUST IN CASE" you open your heart and spirit and find that "grain of a mustard seed".

Too bad, you're 'JUST in case' story plays right into Evil's story. But good thing that POWER always trumps religion & evil....;}

No - "POWER" does NOT "always trump religion" - specifically, NOT true Christianity. It may overwhelm the spirit at times, but never when the Name of Jesus is invoked. I know that's a fairy tale for you, but...millions will vouch for my testimony.

How can you refute an Evil vs. Good conflict throughout history? Or that man's nature IS to sin?

Just takes awhile, here on Planet Hell....;}

This mortal life was NEVER intended to be Eden once Adam and Eve did their thing.

You have TWO options in this life:

1) Succumb to your human nature, believe The Serpent, and deny The Redeemer

2) Soften your heart and try understanding the accept the offer of grace from The Redeemer, and exist forever in indescribably wonderful Heaven. It will grant you the peace of mind you search for but struggle mightily with.

Time runs short before standing (and trembling) before The Almighty in Judgment. That moment will be the Panic of all Panics followed by the loneliness of all loneliness as you are *eternally* cut off from the Light.

Ponder...living forever in a dark closet. ALONE. Only you can't even touch the walls never mind touch, see, or speak to anyone...except the demons mocking you. THAT is the definition of REAL "hell".

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   9:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1259. To: mcgowanjm, redleghunter, ALL (#1255) (Edited)

"We cannot look to the conscience of the world when our own conscience is asleep."

Carl von Ossietzky

All that matters is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ; the waking state of conscience of the world is an individual responsibility - especially after having heard "The Good News" from others.

"Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act."

Dietrich Bonhoeffer

God will hold NO ONE "guiltless", period. Evil permeates this world, of which Satan takes advantage and whispers into our ears. Our Free Will makes a decision to sin. Bonhoeffer provides NO newsflash.

THIS is the reason He sent His guiltless Son Jesus Christ to take on ALL the sins of the world.

John 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   9:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1260. To: e_type_jag (#1223)

we have a little boy who is now asking for a sibling to play with.

i've thought that it's probably not a bad idea from a reliability / failure mode or worst case analysis perspective that we do in fact have a backup in case something goes wrong with the existing pre adolescent unit we now have.

she is a somewhat ambivalent but seems to be coming around to the idea.

I have one...a boy, now a young adult. A sibling does change their personality - I think it makes them more confident and secure (reflecting in retrospect). Sometimes I wish I had #2, but then I wasn't ready then either. Tough call. These days at times I wish I'd pulled the trigger...

You're little guy is what - about 3 yo??

If the old lady is gonna pull that trigger, she's gotta do it soon. Better do some nudging (and show her this post). Beyond a 4 year difference and the two sibs won't ever hang out together...until they're older adults. So...Uncle Lib sez: "Git the champagne ready tonight!"

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   10:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1261. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Furthermore, the Nazi regime "boasted openly of its new system of 'police justice' by which the Secret Police (Gestapo) and the Criminal Police (Kripo) could decide for themselves what the law was, and send people to the camps at will." The Times tells us:

That record, and Mr. Awlaki’s calls for more attacks, presented Mr. Obama with an urgent question: Could he order the targeted killing of an American citizen, in a country with which the United States was not at war, in secret and without the benefit of a trial?

The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel prepared a lengthy memo justifying that extraordinary step, asserting that while the Fifth Amendment’s guarantee of due process applied, it could be satisfied by internal deliberations in the executive branch

Thus do the President and his fellow murderers dispense with charges and trials altogether; relying on secret (non-existent and/or usually erroneous or extremely doubtful) evidence, which is evaluated in secret by means of secret standards, they "decide for themselves what the law" is. Once again, they part company from the Nazis, at least as far as the Nazis' actions in the first years of their rule are concerned: Obama and the other murderers today don't merely "send people to the camps at will." Instead, they kill them.

But of course, we tell ourselves, it could never happen here."

-Arhtur Silber

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1262. To: Liberator (#1258)

As Power always trumps religion, I don't understand why you aren't open of your worship of it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1263. To: mcgowanjm (#1261)

Obama and the other murderers today don't merely "send people to the camps at will." Instead, they kill them.

But of course, we tell ourselves, it could never happen here."

-Arhtur Silber

9/11 changed EVERYTHING.

There are things un-imagined happening right now - the least of which is a sitting Commie-Fascist Muslim Queer Foreigner America-Hating, Whitey-Hating, Christian-hating Saboteur-in-Chief.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   10:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1264. To: Liberator (#1259)

More bible study.

The good christian would quote a muslim text, as it's harder now to be a muslim....;}

But of course you're a good german. The sam e good german who could quote your bible right back to you....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1265. To: mcgowanjm (#1262)

As Power always trumps religion, I don't understand why you aren't open of your worship of it.

By "trumping" (and again I speak in the context of Christianity) do you mean "power-to-murder the flesh"?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   10:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1266. To: Liberator (#1265)

By "trumping" (and again I speak in the context of Christianity) do you mean "power-to-murder the flesh"?

I mean a lady goes to her pastor to ask permission to become a casino employee.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1267. To: Liberator (#1265)

As Power always trumps religion, I don't understand why you aren't open of your worship of it.

By "trumping" (and again I speak in the context of Christianity) do you mean "power-to-murder the flesh"?

I mean, you see for yourself that Climate change is occurring in your home town and you ridicule others for pointing this out.

I mean, you have nothing to say about how or why we invaded the Afghans eveb as Colin Powell is held up as a liar.

I mean, you want to be a Republican, even as Republicans hate women.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1268. To: Liberator, All (#1263)

There are things un-imagined happening right now - the least of which is a sitting Commie-Fascist Muslim Queer Foreigner America-Hating, Whitey-Hating, Christian-hating Saboteur-in-Chief.

And THANK YOU...;}

EXACTLY what the Sweet baby jesus would say if he was here today.

Just before your bible thumpin' goons whacked him...;}

You fundy's always lose it....just takes a little prying is all....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1269. To: All (#1268)

Furthermore, the Nazi regime "boasted openly of its new system of 'police justice' by which the Secret Police (Gestapo) and the Criminal Police (Kripo) could decide for themselves what the law was, and send people to the camps at will." The Times tells us:

That record, and Mr. Awlaki’s calls for more attacks, presented Mr. Obama with an urgent question: Could he order the targeted killing of an American citizen, in a country with which the United States was not at war, in secret and without the benefit of a trial?

The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel prepared a lengthy memo justifying that extraordinary step, asserting that while the Fifth Amendment’s guarantee of due process applied, it could be satisfied by internal deliberations in the executive branch

Thus do the President and his fellow murderers dispense with charges and trials altogether; relying on secret (non-existent and/or usually erroneous or extremely doubtful) evidence, which is evaluated in secret by means of secret standards, they "decide for themselves what the law" is. Once again, they part company from the Nazis, at least as far as the Nazis' actions in the first years of their rule are concerned: Obama and the other murderers today don't merely "send people to the camps at will." Instead, they kill them.

But of course, we tell ourselves, it could never happen here.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1270. To: mcgowanjm (#1264)

More bible study.

How else would you understand The Word?

IF you ever give the SAME sweaty effort you give politics to understanding Biblical history and reason for a Redeemer, you might find yourself surprised.

Best investment you'll ever make. Just sayin'.

But of course you're a good german. The sam e good german who could quote your bible right back to you....;}

Satan won some, didn't he? :-) That wagon can be fallen off. And must I cite the "Christianity" of Pelosi and Uncle Teddy?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   10:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1271. To: mcgowanjm (#1268)

And THANK YOU...;}

EXACTLY what the Sweet baby jesus would say if he was here today.

Just before your bible thumpin' goons whacked him...;}

In your opinion, is 0buma a righteous man? Does he love America? YES or NO?

Btw, what WOULD Jesus say? Are THESE the words of any man you've ever known?:

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   10:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1272. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The state protects the life of all citizens. Unfortunately, it is only possible to provide such protection for certain individuals, and those involved have to be taken into protective custody under the direct protection of the police.

The individuals involved, who are often of the Jewish faith, have through behaviour towards the national Germany, such as through offending nationalist feelings, and so on, made themselves so unloved among the people, that they would be exposed to the anger of the people unless the police stepped in.

Less than a week later, Himmler gave instructions to open a concentration camp at Dachau. In claiming that 'protective custody' was designed to protect individuals from the wrath of the mob, he made it easy for Germans to construct stories of their own in which supposedly endangered persons were picked up for their own good.

Not only that, but according to Himmler 'often' the alleged culprits who outraged the national feelings of citizens were Jews, a statement which opened the possibility for citizens, even those who were not antisemitic, to conclude that it was good to have such 'enemies' off the streets. The comforting thought was that most prisoners in concentration camps were not at all like 'good citizens'.

Imagine for a moment that, in the aftermath of a significant terrorist attack or series of attacks within U.S. borders, the government announced, with numerous expressions of "deeply regrettable necessity" and how the government earnestly sought other alternatives but

could find none that would assure public safety, that local police departments (with additional support from the U.S. military as required) would immediately begin rounding up "terrorists," "Muslims" and/or "Arabs," as well as those suspected of being terrorist sympathizers, and confining them in detention camps. Imagine that U.S. officials said, among other things, that taking such "enemies" or potential enemies off the streets was necessary "for their own good," as well as for the protection of the public.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1273. To: Liberator (#1270)

And must I cite the "Christianity" of Pelosi and Uncle Teddy?

LMFAO.

Of course you'll be able to source why there are good and then bad christians.

Anyone can ID them if they really look hard enough, eh Lib?

The Book of Mormons....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1274. To: All (#1273)

And eventually only the baptists and the jews (until the Rapture of course and then the jews will get theirs).

I can see that old clapboard church that the Hatfields and McCoys regularly attended.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1275. To: Liberator (#1270)

How else would you understand The Word?

Jesus fucking Christ.

Jesus and I are tight.

But the Bible is chock full of double standards and your god is way too vengeful and violent for my tastes.

Which one will I believe?

I believe the power of the planet.

And the fact that even a dog doesn't know how to lie....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1276. To: All (#1275)

I have Zero doubts that with the next cheney/SS/NORAD/CIA false flag, you and yours will instantly again line up to be the state's cannon fodder.

On the basis of the principles and methods the government has already announced -- and which the government thoughtfully has conveyed to the public in great detail in the pages of the nation's leading newspaper --

the government would only be continuing the policies it has already implemented if it murdered all such potential "enemies." Surely confining them in detention camps is a far more modest and less brutal means of dealing with the continuing crisis, is it not?

And since almost no one objects to the already implemented and publicized program of murder, who would protest? And what would most likely happen to such protesters in the atmosphere of hysteria following another attack?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:43:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1277. To: mcgowanjm (#1273)

Of course you'll be able to source why there are good and then bad christians.

Why?

Because Satan never stops whispering lies and trying to steal our souls - even so-called "Christians".

Anyone can ID them if they really look hard enough, eh Lib? The Book of Mormons....;}

For instance, it doesn't take a genius to know that abortion is murder.

I don't know much about Mormonism, but on the case of righteousness (my question which you've failed to address with respect to 0buma), Romney is light years more righteous than the Serpent's Tool, 0buma. Of course Commies like you might disagree, eh?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   10:43:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1278. To: Liberator (#1277)

Of course you'll be able to source why there are good and then bad christians.

Why?

Really. Who needs facts when you've got the bible.

you don't need to go looking to the Afghans for the Fallen angels.

They're in the Imperial City.

In the Largest baptist church in DC.

or the National Cathedral.

Or the largest Synagogue.

They hang out in the Mosques a little less. Too much stress, except for the funeral of the the late Saudi crown prince.

The angels will be there for the harvest, eh?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1279. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The following piece is a co-exclusive with Wall Street on Parade.

If you want to trade securities at any brokerage firm in the U.S., you’ll need to study intensively for about three months, memorize dizzying rules and regulations, then take a six hour licensing exam. (The exam is so rigorous that it’s compared to the CPA exam. I don’t know if it’s fact or lore, but I was told exam rooms in past decades had puke buckets in the corners. My room didn’t in 1986.) Then, you’ll need to get fingerprinted, pass a background check, register with a host of stock exchanges, make sure you have a supervisor who holds a principal’s license, get approved in each state in which you plan to conduct business, and take ongoing continuing education classes to keep your licenses.

Or, you could skip all of that and earn $14 million a year trading – without a license – stocks, bonds, swaps, options, futures with $374 billion of bank depositors’ money at JP Morgan Chase’s Chief Investment Office – a unit few on Wall Street had ever heard of until it reported losing billions of dollars in May in the same derivative transaction that made AIG a ward of the taxpayer in 2008.

http://www.alternet.org/story/15...l_street_%E2%80%93_again/ 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   10:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1280. To: mcgowanjm, redleghunter (#1275)

Jesus and I are tight.

But the Bible is chock full of double standards and your god is way too vengeful and violent for my tastes.

Which one will I believe?

I believe the power of the planet.

You listen to Jesus' Sermon on the Mount yet?

Ya gotta start somewhere. May as well be THERE. I ask: Are his words the words of ANY mortal??

You make the mistake many make - the gospel of Jesus Christ is NOT a "religion", nor should His Gospel necessarily be confused with the people who "represent Christianity" - although a fellowship is a good thing.

Seriously Jimmy, if you want to challenge those "double-standards" for clarification, seek and ye shall find....at a Bible Study. Context is everything with respect the the Old Testament. Plucking out random scripture doesn't tell the story.

Or perhaps someone like Redleghunter can address any question(s) that have bothered you about the Bible - why not ask him a specific question or address an issue? I would myself but am not a Bible Scholar.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   10:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1281. To: mcgowanjm (#1276)

I have Zero doubts that with the next cheney/SS/NORAD/CIA false flag, you and yours will instantly again line up to be the state's cannon fodder.

I didn't last time - why assume you know WHO and WHAT real Christians are thinking and doing?

Or are you another of the sheep who believe ALL Christians are "bleating Fundies"? (admit it - you DO).

The government would only be continuing the policies it has already implemented if it murdered all such potential "enemies." Surely confining them in detention camps is a far more modest and less brutal means of dealing with the continuing crisis, is it not?...

And since almost no one objects to the already implemented and publicized program of murder, who would protest? And what would most likely happen to such protesters in the atmosphere of hysteria following another attack?

Well how about that? A Commie-Atheist and Capitalist Christian concur.

NOTE: These people are NOT "Christian". These are people who believe THEY are their own deity. Satan's own.

I hope your start figuring out THE same riddle that's existed since Adam and Eve.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   11:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1282. To: mcgowanjm (#1278)

Really. Who needs facts when you've got the bible.

you don't need to go looking to the Afghans for the Fallen angels.

They're in the Imperial City.

In the Largest baptist church in DC.

or the National Cathedral.

Or the largest Synagogue.

They hang out in the Mosques a little less. Too much stress, except for the funeral of the the late Saudi crown prince.

The angels will be there for the harvest, eh?

Yep. *Fallen* angels.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   11:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1283. To: Liberator (#1280)

do my bible study where the holy rollers leave off.

When was the last time a preacher railed against usury for example....;}

" The Entire Western World (Europe, USA etc) , predominantly Christian, is burning due to huge unemployment but Christianity (which decried usury all along its history) gives a picture of emperor Nero, as given below, who proverbially was playing the flute while Rome was burning :-

(1)- The Entire Western World is reeling under huge public debt (even 100 to 200 % of GDP) and its people are left in a situation where entire legitimate income of their governments are barely enough to service the debt (payment of its interest and principal) with the result these governments are unable to invest in government programs for removing unemployment from these countries (which will always be there as it is impossible for private capital alone to generate total employment, which is sine-qua-non of any democracy)

(2)- This grave situation has arrived because rulers and politicians of these Western Countries indulged in unbridled public borrowings and instead of utilizing these borrowings in productive assets for public welfare (which would have generated money to service the debt also) , indulged in profligacy with the result public debt kept on rising and reached the untenable proportion up to even 100 to 200 % GDP. This has deprived governments of their capacity to invest in public welfare with the result now political instability also exists in many countries of Western Christian World like Greece, France, Spain, Italy Portugal etc

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   11:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1284. To: Liberator (#1281) (Edited)

I didn't last time - why assume you know WHO and WHAT real Christians are thinking and doing?

Or are you another of the sheep who believe ALL Christians are "bleating Fundies"? (admit it - you DO).

Because I deal in the cutting edge.

You won't find fundies there.

They believe what the state tells them.

That's why.

Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's as Ceasar claims everything.

" (7)- Therefore the Churches of Western Countries with so much assets at their command naturally know the basic principle of lending & borrowing and is morally obliged to protect Christians from mischiefs of usurers. But unfortunately the Christians of Western Countries who have given so much wealth, power and respect to Churches are in return getting only sermons about other-world from these Churches whereas the Usury (decried by Christianity all along its history) is having a field day in these Christian majority countries and which has ultimately resulted in inadequate growth to take care of unemployment in these Western Christian Countries."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   11:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1285. To: mcgowanjm (#1283)

Now you're blaming Christians for the filthy business of politics?

LOL

Ok, "no mas!". I give up.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   11:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1286. To: mcgowanjm (#1284)

Because I deal in the cutting edge.

You won't find fundies there.

They believe what the state tells them.

That's why.

You "know" zip, nada, nothing.

You've bought into one giant delusion. Good luck with that.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-17   11:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1287. To: Liberator (#1286)

You "know" zip, nada, nothing.

You've bought into one giant delusion. Good luck with that.

;}

That's why when you come back, and you always do, I don't forget this.....;}

Friendo....;}

""The opportunity to stand before the crowd, come out as an atheist and share about the Clergy Project was too good to pass up. I was at the end of my rope and I knew it. It was now or never for me. As I walked up on that stage, I felt fear like no other."

MacBain had been questioning her faith since her early teens, when she came across contradictions in the Bible. "I went to my dad for answers," she said. "He simply shared that God's ways are so much higher than our ways that we can not understand everything in the Bible. Our response should be faith, not doubting. He then told me that doubting was a sin. I left that day and suppressed those questions. This practice followed me for decades."

But eventually, the questions became too much. She let go of her Biblical literalism, which at first helped resolve her doubts about Biblical contradictions -- but this soon made room for other questions to press on her. "Things such as theodicy [the problem of suffering and evil], the question of hell, God's omnipotence yet lack of intervention in heinous events, the historicity of Jesus... all these bubbled to the surface and demanded to be answered," she said. "My work to answer these questions began with the thought that as I discovered the truth, it would create a stronger faith and give me comforting answers to those in my church who were dealing with the same issues. Instead, the truth I found led me away from faith."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   11:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1288. To: Liberator (#1285)

Now you're blaming Christians for the filthy business of politics?

Usury ain't politics unless it's

political economics....;}

The truth replaced by silence is evil and there's a lot of silence in the pulpit these days...

Usury's just one.

""My work to answer these questions began with the thought that as I discovered the truth, it would create a stronger faith and give me comforting answers to those in my church who were dealing with the same issues. Instead, the truth I found led me away from faith."

This experience is common among members of the Clergy Project. Clergy people, almost by definition, are people who take their faith seriously. They tend to think about religion carefully. They often (although not always) study their religion carefully. Unlike many believers, they actually read the Bible, or Torah, or Koran, or whatever the sacred text of their religion is. They think hard about questions that more casual believers are willing to let slide. After all -- that's their job."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   11:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1289. To: All (#1288)

And when I asked Jerry DeWitt -- Recovering From Religion executive director, Clergy Project graduate and new-member screener for CP -- what kinds of ideas and experiences most commonly lead clergy members to question and eventually leave their faith, he answered simply, "Religion's inability to answer for or relieve human suffering."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-17   11:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1290. To: mcgowanjm (#1253)

A traitor, that's who. An enemy of the United States and everything it stands for. We are all traitors here and should expect to be treated as such by those who have not yet awakened.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-17   12:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1291. To: Liberator, mcgowanjm (#1259)

THIS is the reason He sent His guiltless Son Jesus Christ to take on ALL the sins of the world.

Well said.

Jim, one must be at peace with God before one can be peace with one self and then fellow man.

Jesus Christ is the only answer. It is all about Trust AND Obey.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-17   12:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1292. To: Liberator, mcgowanjm (#1280)

Context is everything with respect the the Old Testament. Plucking out random scripture doesn't tell the story.

A very true statement. God has revealed He is Holy Holy Holy. We need to keep that in mind and stop trying to apply the fallen man's way or rationale to the actions of The Holy Holy Holy. Holy is stated three times for a strong reason.

The context is this:

It is not all about us, it is about Him. And within the context of all about Him, He has provided us a gift we do not deserve. And this Gift was God coming to the earth to suffer and die for us and then rise from the dead. He did this for us, and we don't deserve it, but God did it.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-17   12:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1293. To: redleghunter (#1292)

He did this for us, and we don't deserve it, but God did it.

Make a thread dealing with your beliefs. Then invite me and all others that you think might contribute. This thread is too long (already) and takes too long to load.

Keep the thread as objective as possible.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-17   13:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1294. To: mcgowanjm, Liberator (#1267)

I mean, you see for yourself that Climate change is occurring in your home town and you ridicule others for pointing this out.

Really?

www.chick.com/readin g/tracts/1075/1075_01.asp

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-17   15:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1295. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#1253)

We are all traitors here and should expect to be treated as such by those who have not yet awakened.

I agree jimmy boy, you libTURDS and all of the rest of you so called "progressive" tyranny ass lickers are certainly TRAITORS.

I would gladly pull the trap from under your feet and watch you dance your way to hell as you shit yourself SCUM.

"I feel your pain SCUM.

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS, (dat's you jimmy boy).

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-17   15:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1296. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Daichopan main base comes under armed assault Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Monday, 28 Rajab 1433 Monday, 18 June 2012 08:42 ZABUL, Jun. 18 – Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate, using heavy and light weapons carried out an armed attack on the main enemy base near Daichopan district center at 10:00 am yesterday, triggering a deadly battle which lasted till around dusk time in which the enemy sustained heavy losses however its exact extent is not known.

shahamat-english.com/inde...ult&catid=1:news&Itemid=2

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   8:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1297. To: Mad Dog (#1295)

morning.....nothing's changed.

hell freezes over.....MD reveals he has a purpose.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   8:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1298. To: redleghunter (#1294)

Really?

Case in point.

Red lives in Texas.

Current drought greater than Dust Bowl.

Record heat.

And the Baptist Baylor's oblivious.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   8:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1299. To: redleghunter (#1292)

Plucking out random scripture doesn't tell the story.

So you can't pick and choose god's literal word.

Don't take god out of context?.....8D

Religion falters as it can not releave human suffering.

And human suffering is increasing by the day.

Religion's got the short end of the stick.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   8:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1300. To: redleghunter (#1291)

im, one must be at peace with God before one can be peace with one self and then fellow man.

That's Mister jimm to you, anon....;}

Come on out of the closet....you'll feel liberated....;}

And why would you think I'm not at peace.

Because I state your religion is just another cult?

;}

Power over Religion....everytime.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   8:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1301. To: redleghunter (#1290)

A traitor, that's who. An enemy of the United States and everything it stands for. We are all traitors here and should expect to be treated as such by those who have not yet awakened.

BUWAHAHAWAHAHAHAHWHAHAHAHA....8D

And so now we're to it.

It's Not the religion.

That's just an add on to the manifest destiny of the USSA!!!!!!!!!!

The traitor' the one sElected by the SCOTUS Nov 2000.

Who then did PNAC's Pearl Harbor on 9/11.

cheny/NORAD/ SS/CIA/MOSSAD.....;}

And then quietly the FBI with it;s Still Unsolved anthrax attacks to pass the unPatriot Act.

And the USSA has been in a yearly renewed State of Emergency.

And I know I've wasted this typing because

.....

Wait for it

......

NONE of you zio Fundy's will address this.

But go ahead and name your Texas airports after these losers.....

LMFAO

your religion is just a cover.

If the Commies were in charge....you'd be up their ass the same way.

POWER trumps religion everytime.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   8:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1302. To: Liberator, All (#1286)

Because I deal in the cutting edge.

You won't find fundies there.

They believe what the state tells them.

That's why.

You "know" zip, nada, nothing.

You've bought into one giant delusion. Good luck with that.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   8:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1303. To: All (#1302)

GREECE: Jubilation is premature…nobody has factored in the reality of the morning after PASOK STILL WANTS SYRIZA IN COALITION, OR NO DEAL

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/

Greece defaults by the end of the month.

The EZ will HAVE to kick Greece out.

Greece is now irrelevant.

Spain and Italy up on deck now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   8:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1304. To: mcgowanjm (#1303)

The EZ will HAVE to kick Greece out.

Greece is now irrelevant.

Spain and Italy up on deck now.

How do you figure Spain and Italy now?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-18   8:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1305. To: Fred Mertz (#1304)

How do you figure Spain and Italy now?

The two little mice peering out of the hole at the sleeping cat.

Mouse 1: 'We need to bell the cat.'

Mouse 2: 'I think you're the best one for the job.'

....;}

" For now the market is celebrating another glorious can-kicking event. The celebration will last until the bond market has had enough. I expect days at most, and perhaps hours."

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

We might have hours.

062112 for sure.

The entire financial world is now officially bored.

Which is worse than anger.

The vector is about to be changed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   9:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1306. To: All (#1305) (Edited)

"With few (if any) natural buyers of Spanish debt (especially given the lack of CDS-cash basis now), Spanish bonds continue to crumble lower in price and higher in yield/spread. For the first time ever, 10Y Spanish bond yields have passed 575bps over Bunds - currently trading at 7.15% yield. "

Zerohedge

But ZH keeps missing the gold play.

No developed nation can pay 5.75 points over the benchmark.

"Italian bonds (which are also deteriorating rapidly this morning), it would appear that just as Spiegel reports today from the G-20, via a senior EU official: "If Germany Doesn't Make A Move, Europe Is Dead"."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   9:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1307. To: Fred Mertz, All (#1306)

062112

The vector is about to be changed.

Greece and Syria are two sides of the same coin.

Military on one side. Finance on the other.

And Cyprus (see Bail Out Bidding War;) the fulcrum.

Whoever 'gets' Cyprus wins the first throw.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   9:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1308. To: mcgowanjm (#1301)

NONE of you zio Fundy's will address this...your religion is just a cover.

There's no fixing stupid BUT then there is with ignorance....frankly, you appear to belong to both categories.

One last reminder before you hit the BOZO list, Jimmy: There is still time to reject the Deceiver and his Lies before you tremble before the Lord in Judgment. The responsibility for your eternal soul and destination is strictly up to you. Again, choose wisely and humble yourself. You will NEVER be able to change you mind afterward.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-18   9:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1309. To: Liberator (#1308)

NONE of you zio Fundy's will address this...your religion is just a cover.

There's no fixing stupid BUT then there is with ignorance....frankly, you appear to belong to both categories.

One last reminder before you hit the BOZO list, Jimmy:

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA...;}

And he's back....No more Friendly chat?....;}

And you came back to tell me you won't come back....nice....Libby.

Sincerely,

Mister Jimmie

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   10:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1310. To: Liberator, all (#1308)

There is still time to reject the Deceiver and his Lies before you tremble before the Lord in Judgment. The responsibility for your eternal soul and destination is strictly up to you. Again, choose wisely and humble yourself. You will NEVER be able to change you mind afterward.

So I'm with the Fallen Angels now.

Of course that's Ultimate baptist thinkin'.

You can't kill the sin in the sinner that you love even as you hate the sin...

or whatever the fuck that is....so you Automatically throw the sinner across the River Styx into Eternal Damnation....;}

Nice.

So...to Recap...

I can Not possibly make decisions for myself until age 12.

Because the brain is not fully formed....but I can Gom to Hell for Eternity...on a slip.

I can NOt make an INFORMED decision until I'm 17.

I have not received the required info to make an INFORMED decision.

AND

I have been indoctrinated by my parents with who knows What kind of bad info.

But I can still be sent to Hell for Eternity.

After 18 years I can be indie but not likely. All the while I can really screw up my soul with rebellious antics and or following bad parental advice.

It might take, if I'm not in HELL yet another Decade to start developing and following my OWN life's blueprint.

By 29, I've got almost 3 decades of baggage and if I've made it this far, I've now got to forge thru another 4 decades of Evolutionary Genetic Material which has programmed me to further the human race.

As well as make my way thru Self Deceit.

And THAT can send me straight to Hell for Eternity.

Then 70 to whenever I die...Maybe 3 decades.

Where I gradually am losiong the capacity to remember the fuck ups that I still need to be guilty/sorry for.

Too LATE. God sends me to Hell for Eternity regardless.

And so your vengeful wrathful vicious god, who was bored so that we were created....

let's us live for say 100 years with FREE WILLL....yeah us!...;}

so that s/he can then send us to Hell for Eternity.

HAve I missed something?

Fu ck your religion and fuck your god.

Power trumps religion everytime

and religion fades as it's seen to do NOTHING to relieve human suffering.....

;}

"There is still time to reject the Deceiver and his Lies before you tremble before the Lord in Judgment. The responsibility for your eternal soul and destination is strictly up to you. Again, choose wisely and humble yourself. You will NEVER be able to change you mind afterward. "

exactly, libby, exactly.

Coming from someone to scared to put out their real name.

Fuck off....

Sincerely

Mister Jimmie

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   10:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1311. To: All (#1310)

3. For the rest, we need only recall that Israel is unable to set up a defensive device to protect its domestic front. Israel is burning with impatience to attack Iran, in addition to all the threats it continually spurts out against Iran’s nuclear program. This simple reminder suffices to understand that the camp of the aggressors is not in a position to confront the foreseeable reaction to its aggression.

III. Consequently, we can deduct that the military war against Syria is rather unlikely and that the terrorist war will not permit the aggressors to achieve their aims. On the contrary, it will generate losses that will wear them down, even if this should take some time. At this stage, we can return to the question asked above: why such an assembly of forces?

In our opinion, the answer lies in the fact that the aggressors’ camp, being aware of its failure, knows that the only way out will be a negotiated and peaceful solution. It also knows, however, that those who sit down at the negotiating table will only receive a share proportional to their gains on the ground and to the cards they hold in their hands.

This explains why the aggressors’ camp seeks to assemble as much as possible to render its defeat more tolerable, now that its victory in Syria has entered the realm of fiction and that Russia sent off an invitation to negotiate via a code which can be deciphered by anyone who is familiar with the protocol: a missile which has lifted doubts, dispelled delusions and opened the way to peace.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-18   10:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1312. To: mcgowanjm (#1298)

Red lives in Texas.

Current drought greater than Dust Bowl.

It is always hot in Texas late spring through about October. There was a worse drought in the late 90s.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-18   12:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1313. To: mcgowanjm (#1299)

You randomly plucked out my post to make a point?

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-18   12:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1314. To: mcgowanjm (#1300)

And why would you think I'm not at peace.

Your posts betray you.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-18   12:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1315. To: mcgowanjm (#1301)

I did not make that quote.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-18   12:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1316. To: redleghunter, Jimmy Boy (#1291) (Edited)

Thanks, Red...

Jim, one must be at peace with God before one can be peace with one self and then fellow man. Jesus Christ is the only answer. It is all about Trust AND Obey.

Jimmy's NOT looking for peace; Just blame and a scapegoat for the evil in this world. In THIS case somehow it's the fault of "zio-fundies". OR, I suppose both Fundies AND Zionists.

His "solution" is a world in which we wind up as Soylent Green, and those remaining are the Elites OR Commie-Fascist Tree-Huggers. There are few individuals more lost and spiritually void than our Jimmy Mac, but we see this same disconnect over and over with those who refuse to humble themselves before our Creator.

I can not imagine the nightmares this guy has as demons jab and skew his mind and spirit.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-18   13:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1317. To: redleghunter (#1292)

It is not all about us, it is about Him. And within the context of all about Him, He has provided us a gift we do not deserve. And this Gift was God coming to the earth to suffer and die for us and then rise from the dead. He did this for us, and we don't deserve it, but God did it.

ALL TRUE...all the Christ-the-Redeemer asks is acknowledgment of His sacrifice as a "receipt"...and for us to rely on Him for wisdom and strength and share that testimony.

People seems to conveniently forget or realize that because God has granted us FREE WILL, that our nature leads us all to sin against ourselves, one another, AND God's Law.

So some people are mad at God for NOT interfering and over-riding the FREE WILL of the worst of the lot and "fixing bad people". If they refuse to listen, he can't can He?

Those who refuse to accept His gift of grace to be exonerated from the penalty FOR sin (eternal death) and His strength to reform and refresh our spirit will continue to wallow in hopeless despair. Man can NOT "fix" himself without the Lord's spiritual help.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-18   13:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1318. To: buckeroo, redleghunter (#1293)

Make a thread dealing with your beliefs. Then invite me and all others that you think might contribute.

Create your own forum Buck. Then invite us and all others over whom you believe might contribute.

What kind of moderator would you make? Would you pull Red's comment from this thread were THIS your forum?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-18   14:01:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1319. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#1297)

We are all traitors here and should expect to be treated as such by those who have not yet awakened.

I agree jimmmy boy, you libTURDS and all of the rest of you so called "progressive" tyranny ass lickers are certainly TRAITORS.

I would gladly pull the trap from under your feet and watch you dance your way to hell as you shit yourself SCUM.

"I feel your pain SCUM.

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS, (dat's you jimmmy boy).

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-18   15:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1320. To: redleghunter (#1312)

Red lives in Texas.

Current drought greater than Dust Bowl.

It is always hot in Texas late spring through about October. There was a worse drought in the late 90s.

You don't really expect a wack job like jimmmy boy SCUM to be able to understand the difference between "weather" and "climate" do you?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-18   15:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1321. To: Liberator (#1317)

Those who refuse to accept His gift of grace to be exonerated from the penalty FOR sin (eternal death) and His strength to reform and refresh our spirit will continue to wallow in hopeless despair. Man can NOT "fix" himself without the Lord's spiritual help.

As I mature in my walk with Christ I realize many have issues with trusting Him with transforming their lives. There is the "wretch" who thinks that his/her sins are too great for the King of kings and Lord of lords. Then there are those who really don't want to change from their sinful lives that wave off the Gift as intruding on their lives. The first case will most likely acknowledge there is God and He is offering a Gift, and the second case even if God comes down and reveals Himself they will still reject the Gift. In both cases there is a rejection of The Message and in both cases there is an effort to find another "way."

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-18   15:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1322. To: A K A Stone (#0)

BREAKING NEWS: Americans required to add Star of David to U.S. flags by July 4th; free Velcro stars available at most post offices

by David Morris

WASHINGTON (USMediaAndIsrael.com) – Congress today passed a bipartisan bill that requires Americans to add Israel’s Star of David to the U.S. flag by this year’s Independence Day holiday. Rep. Hugh Llewellyn III (R-Alabama) and Sen. Dale Wentworth (D-New Jersey) introduced the legislation during an emergency session.

The new law — known as the Flag Repatriation and Education for America Act, or “FREEDOM Act” — takes effect immediately. From the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, Sen. Wentworth told reporters:

“The FREEDOM Act symbolizes our unconditional support of the great nation of Israel, and recognizes that in many ways Israel is already America’s 51st state. Thanks to our foreign aid, Israel’s per-capita income rivals our own.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   7:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1323. To: redleghunter (#1290)

Yes, that's correct.

You did not say that.

I was pointing out that anyone not positive about the USSA and it's future growth prospects is treated like a traitor.

Orwellian.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   7:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1324. To: redleghunter (#1314)

And why would you think I'm not at peace.

Your posts betray you.

You mis read my posts. ;}

I'm happy. As I look to the future with confidence.

And watch the realization, the actualization of my dreams.

The fact that I can warn at the same time about the evil that most can not, will not avoid, is just lagniappe....;}

Like this:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   7:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1325. To: All (#1324)

^^^;}

Three versions of the same event. Guess which one is correct.

Hint: The USSA has admitted that it lied about the June 1 Khost, attack...;}

1) Shahwalikot martyrdom attack ends, 30 invaders and 12 tanks eliminated Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Tuesday, 29 Rajab 1433 Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:24 KANDAHAR, Jun. 19 – Officials from Shahwalikot district report that the fighting inside an ISAF base in Shahlikot’s Dahli Band area which started at 03:00 am local time, finally came to an end at 11:00 am after 8 hours of intense battle. Officials add that in the successful operation, 6 martyrdom seekers embraced martyrdom (may Allah accept them) while 30 invaders were killed, 14 wounded and 8 fuel tankers and 12 tanks were destroyed whereas a large part of the base was also burnt down and destroyed.

shahamat-english.com/inde...ted&catid=1:news&Itemid=2

2)

news.antiwar.com/2012/06/...in-rogue-shooting-attack/

Afghan Police Kill NATO Soldier in ‘Rogue Shooting’ Attack Few Details Offered on Attack in Kandahar Province by Jason Ditz, June 18, 2012 Print This | Share This

Three apparent Afghan police opened fire on NATO soldiers, killing one and successfully fleeing the scene in the Kandahar Province today. Several others were also reportedly wounded in the shooting. The attack is just the latest in a growing number of killings by Afghan forces against NATO troops.

Details on the killing are scant so far, with NATO confirming the killing but refused to provide the nationality of the slain soldier, and also refused to confirm the province in which the shooting took place, though Afghan officials already placed it in Kandahar.

All NATO officials would say was that there were three shooters, that they had on “police uniforms,” and that they were still trying to find them.

3)

AFP Kandahar, Afghanistan, June 19, 2012 First Published: 14:01 IST(19/6/2012) Last Updated: 14:08 IST(19/6/2012)

Email print Taliban insurgents struck Afghan and NATO bases in the restive province of Kandahar Tuesday, after a coalition soldier was killed by attackers in police uniforms, officials said. Seven suicide attackers stormed a joint Afghan-NATO base in Shah Wali Kot district at around 3:30 am (2300 GMT Monday), sparking a 30-minute gun battle that left all the insurgents dead, Kandahar governor spokesman Jawed Faisal said.

NATO's US-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said the attackers breached the outer perimeter of the base but said no coalition soldiers were killed in the incident.

Hours later, four gunmen wearing police uniforms struck a police and NATO base in Kandahar city, triggering a fight in which three officers and all the attackers were killed, provincial police chief General Abdul Raziq told AFP.

your call.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   7:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1326. To: All (#1325)

Brutal austerity + toxic levels of government debt + rising bond yields + a lack of confidence in the financial system + banks that are massively overleveraged + a massive credit crunch = A financial implosion of historic proportions

We are watching a slow-motion financial train wreck that is absolutely unprecedented happen right in front of our eyes and our politicians are powerless to stop it.

It is going to be a long, hot summer for the European financial system.

theeconomiccollapseblog.c...-so-is-the-rest-of-europe

062112

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   7:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1327. To: Mad Dog (#1319)

your only purpose....;}

Morning....nothing's changed.

062112

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   7:50:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1328. To: redleghunter (#1313)

You randomly plucked out my post to make a point?

The context is this: It is not all about us, it is about Him.

#1299. To: redleghunter (#1292)

Plucking out random scripture doesn't tell the story.

So you can't pick and choose god's literal word.

Don't take god out of context?.....8D

Religion falters as it can not releave human suffering.

And human suffering is increasing by the day.

Religion's got the short end of the stick.

mcgowanjm

The context is this: It is not all about us, it is about Him.

No. Him/Her casn take care of Him/Her....;}

It's about us humans. And whether we're smarter than yeast.

I don't see it.

062112

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   7:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1329. To: redleghunter (#1312)

There was a worse drought in the late 90s.

I'll be needing your source here.

And btw, we won't be going anywhere until you post it.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   8:08:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1330. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#27. To: Robin (#17)

#

# [PDF] Einstein The Tipping Point www.thethinkclub.com/book_review.pdf

1932 Einstein leaves Germany only a month before. Hitler gains power and never returns to his home country. The FBI accumulates a 1427 page file on him ...

[edit] Treaty of Versailles and racist agitation

Morel was severely critical of the Treaty of Versailles, warning that it would lead to another war. He did not give up his career as a journalist, becoming director of the magazine Foreign Affairs. Foreign Affairs became a significant voice of the English left about foreign politics at the time. Morel was pareticularly critical of the use of African troops amongst the French forces during the occupation of the Rhineland[2].

Arthur Conan Doyle became acquainted with Morel through the work of the Congo Reform Association. In his novel The Lost World (1912), he used Morel as an inspiration for the character of Ed Malone. Morel is the great-grandfather of author Jasper Morel Fforde.

George Orwell, writing in 1946, recalled "this heroic but rather forgotten man."[3]

Irish antagonism towards England was aggravated by the economic situation of Ireland in the eighteenth century. Throughout the century English trade with Ireland was the most important branch of English overseas trade. The Protestant Anglo-Irish absentee landlords drew off some £800,000 in the early part of the century, rising to £1 million, in an economy that had a GDP of about £4 million.

Completely deforested of timber for exports Irish estates turned to the export of salt beef, pork, butter, and hard cheese. The Bishop of Cloyne wondered, "how a foreigner could possibly conceive that half the inhabitants are dying of hunger in a country so abundant in foodstuffs?" In the 1740s, these economic inequalities, when combined with an exceptionally cold winter and poor harvest, led directly to the first Great Irish Famine (1740-1741), which killed about 400,000 people. Peasant secret societies became common in eighteenth century Ireland as the only means of tenant farmers to redress grievances against their landlords.

The following appears in Act IV of George Bernard Shaw's play Man and Superman: "The Famine? No, [with smouldering passion] the starvation. When a country is full of food, and exporting it, there can be no famine. My father was starved dead; and I was starved out to America in my mother's arms. English rule drove me and mine out of Ireland." There is an Ireland Holocaust mural on Ballymurphy Road in Belfast, titled "An Gorta Mór, Britain's genocide by starvation, Ireland's holocaust 1845-1849."

Everyone knows the inhumanities of every age.

Most seek to look the other way, until one day the doors of the cattle car open and they're looking at either a prison or a raging war....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   9:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1331. To: All (#1330)

To: Robin

They can't even get their Agit Prop right:

"General Salem Ali Qatan was killed near his home in the Mansoura neighbourhood of Aden on Monday, a medical official told the AFP news agency on condition of anonymity.

"Four others were wounded in the suicide attack," the medic said. The medic said the attacker "handed Qatan a paper, shook his hand and then detonated himself" as the general was walking to his office.

Witnesses said the bomber was wearing an explosives belt.

As the chief military commander in south Yemen, Qatan had led a month-long offensive against al-Qaeda, forcing the armed group to withdraw from several towns and villages in the Abyan and Shabwa provinces which they had controlled since last year.

The latest attack came as al-Qaeda fled from their last bastion in the town of Azzan in Shabwa.

ALWAYS put in that the enemy is being defeated and that the enemy is the very one that did 9/11...;}

Since last week, al-Qaeda has withdrawn from three other strongholds in Abyan, including the capital Zinjibar, and the towns of Jaar and Shuqra. Qatan was appointed in March just days after newly elected President Abdrabuh Mansur Hadi took office and pledged to destroy al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the name given to the armed group's local Yemen branch.

'But NEVER show that the insurgents live in the poorest nation in the region and/or there is ANY copnnection between poverty and rebellion....;}

The killing of Major General Salem Ali Qatan highlighted the tenuous grip of Yemen's central authorities on the south despite a month of US-supported bombardments and airstrikes aimed at crushing the militants.

(But REMEMBER that al qaeda is ON THE RUN...;}

The defence ministry said a suicide bomber hurled himself at Qatan's vehicle, also killing two soldiers escorting him. It identified the bomber as a Somali but gave no other details

So was the bomber shaking hands or hurling or shaking hands as he was hurling....someone's hurling that's for sure.....;}

www.aljazeera.com/news/mi...06/20126186461265506.html

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   9:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1332. To: All (#1331)

Religion can not relieve human suffering and so declines even as human suffering increases.

Noting the complete lack of Pain Management in religious hospitals.

Pain & Guilt are part & parcel of religion.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   9:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1333. To: A K A Stone (#0)

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

June 19, 2012 3rd GREEK BAILOUT: Slog prediction vindicated in MSM ‘Debt crisis: Greek government will be forced to seek third bail-out’ (Daily Telegraph, 19.6.12)

‘Forget the Greek election for a while, and focus instead on what will be a far more significant event: full Greek default, bailout or not, unless more bailout monies are poured in, and pretty damn quick. Both Berlin and Washington know for sure this is coming.’ (The Slog, 17.6.12)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   13:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1334. To: mcgowanjm (#1327)

You give yourself way too much importance SCUM.

It's no trouble at all to wipe my ass.

Should I say it three times?

Would that make it more important?

You are SCUM jimmmy boy.

Only SCUM shit on their family.

Dat's YOU jimma boy!

Citations available.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-19   13:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1335. To: mcgowanjm (#1329)

There was a worse drought in the late 90s.

I'll be needing your source here.

And btw, we won't be going anywhere until you post it.....;}

jimma boy you are a real piece of work!

HYPOCRITE thy name is libTURD, (jimma boy)!

You now demand what you have NEVER EVER provided?

Are you for real SCUM?

LOL!

You despicable little poseur libTURD HYPOCRITE SCUM.

Even as you are prototypical of your ilk SCUM, you remain the least of your kind.

BUMMER.

But just for you SCUM.

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-19   13:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1336. To: mcgowanjm (#1323)

I was pointing out that anyone not positive about the USSA and it's future growth prospects is treated like a traitor.

Orwellian.

Ah, funny you should mention that:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-19   14:50:53 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1337. To: mcgowanjm (#1328)

It's about us humans.

Ah that is the error. A continuous march around the hamster wheel will get you nowhere real quick.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-19   15:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1338. To: mcgowanjm (#1329)

I'll be needing your source here.

And btw, we won't be going anywhere until you post it.....;}

Source RLH:

The drought from 1995-1997 was worse than the current drought. I know because I was here in both periods, then and now.

Things are better this year than last year. Last year in Central Texas the Spring rains stopped in late March and we did not see a heavy rain until around Christmas. This year the Spring rains and thunderstorms continued through last week. Big difference. This time last year the temps were hanging around 105 and now they are hanging around 95.

Last year my team had no rainout games and this year there were two. Considering we had games once or twice a week, that makes a big difference.

So there you have it, straight from the source.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-19   15:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1339. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Seeing as how the Golden Dawn (neo-Nazi) party has gained a good deal of popularity in Greece in its most recent national elections (GD obtained its first presence in the House of Parliament), this issue of radically reactionary policy is nothing if not very relevant to the process of financial, economic and sociopolitical collapse. It is exactly the type of blowback against "the system" that TAE has been warning about for some time.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   19:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1340. To: Mad Dog (#1335)

Evening.....You got nothing....nothing's s changed.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   20:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1341. To: redleghunter (#1336)

#1329. To: redleghunter (#1312)

There was a worse drought in the late 90s.

I'll be needing your source here.

And btw, we won't be going anywhere until you post it.....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   20:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1342. To: mcgowanjm (#1341)

As posted above:

Source RLH:

The drought from 1995-1997 was worse than the current drought. I know because I was here in both periods, then and now.

Things are better this year than last year. Last year in Central Texas the Spring rains stopped in late March and we did not see a heavy rain until around Christmas. This year the Spring rains and thunderstorms continued through last week. Big difference. This time last year the temps were hanging around 105 and now they are hanging around 95.

Last year my team had no rainout games and this year there were two. Considering we had games once or twice a week, that makes a big difference.

So there you have it, straight from the source.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-19   21:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1343. To: All (#1341) (Edited)

Banksters...banksters....1789....;}

What has actually happened here in this country on these rare occasions when people have stood up en masse to Fight the Power? In a previous lifetime, I investigated and created a documentary about the Battle at Blair Mountain. You will likely not have heard of this, the teaching of labor history having apparently been classified as a Class I misdemeanor here in the FSA. In the largest uprising in the United States outside of the Civil War, in 1921, thousands of miners waged armed warfare in Logan County, West Virginia against mine owners, sheriff Don Chafin, and federal troops, in an effort to unionize the mines.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   21:20:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1344. To: redleghunter (#1342)

The drought from 1995-1997 was worse than the current drought.

I googled that and got nothing on Texas.

Here. Let me help....;}

US Winter Outlook 2012 and Texas Drought Forecast - The Daily ... www.thedailygreen.com › NEWS › News ArticlesCached

Nov 10, 2011 – The Southwest U.S. drought centered on Texas is only supposed to get ... the drought there is already worst than the Dust Bowl of the 1930s ...

# NOAA: U.S. experiences second warmest summer on record www.noaanews.noaa.gov/sto...08_auguststats.htmlCached

Sep 8, 2011 – Texas has warmest summer on record of any state ... High resolution (Credit: NOAA) ... August 2011 temperature "divisional rank" maps.

Records Tumble in 2011 - Southern Region Headquarters - NOAA www.srh.noaa.gov/sjt/?n=record_temps2011

Jan 21, 2012 – Above normal temperatures defined a majority of 2011 as numerous records fell at ... We saw numerous temperature records fall across West Central Texas in 2011. ... July with an average temperature even warmer than that of June. ... The previous record for the warmest meteorological summer was 85.8 ...

West Texas will be desert in 25 years. With occasional Cat 6 Storms blowing in with torrential rains.

# Oak trees dying across East Texas - KYTX CBS 19 Tyler Longview ... www.cbs19.tv/story/15231632/oak-trees-dying-across-east-texas

Oak Trees are dying across East Texas. With the absence of water, ... Updated: Aug 08, 2011 4:50 PM PDT .... It's the Oak Trees taking a huge hit this summer.

In Texas' worst drought on record, trees dying by the millions - U.S. ... usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_......st-drought-on-re...Cached

Jan 7, 2012 – In Texas' worst drought on record, trees dying by the millions ... The full effect of Texas' record-breaking drought and scorching hot summer on the state's ... Record-setting heat and little rain in 2011 has left North Texas in a ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   22:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1345. To: All (#1344)

In Mingo, Logan and McDowell counties, miners worked under incredibly bad conditions, were paid next to nothing, had no freedom of speech or assembly, and were dispatched with impunity by mine guards and local politicos in an atmosphere reminiscent of a third-world dictatorship, or contemporary South Carolina. In 1921, thousands of miners and families were evicted from their tents after having the temerity to join a union. The Miners' March, as it was called, was set to change all that. The military was engaged, as always, to Protect Property Rights, those most sacred and revered of all rights extended by the Hand of God to the white, male property owners who created the FSA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   22:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1346. To: mcgowanjm (#1345)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-19   22:16:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1347. To: A K A Stone (#1346)

You need to reign in your rabid dog, stone....;}

" Surly: Although the image of banksters and stockbrokers mucking out pigpens and pushing wheelbarrows through knee-deep mud remains a compelling one for me.

You know, I paint all sorts of pictures based on the Spanish Inquisition and the Reign of Terror, but the fact of the matter here is that if you simply took away all their wealth and power and dropped these folks into a Housing project in Chicago and left them their Shoelaces, Silk Neckties and Gucci Belts, they would all Hang THEMSELVES in short order. So if you want to go about it this way to absolve yourself of a sense of Guilt for lopping off their Heads, I am fine with that one also."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   22:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1348. To: A K A Stone (#1346)

BREAKING NEWS: Americans required to add Star of David to U.S. flags by July 4th: Velcro stars available at most post offices

by David Morris

WASHINGTON (USMediaAndIsrael.com) – Congress today passed a bipartisan bill requiring Americans to add Israel’s Star of David to the U.S. flag for the week of July 4th. Rep. Hugh Llewellyn III (R-Alabama) and Sen. Dale Wentworth (D-New Jersey) introduced the legislation during a special session.

From the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, Sen. Wentworth told reporters:

“This act is to symbolize our unconditional support of the great nation of Israel, and recognizes that in many ways Israel is already America’s 51st state. Thanks to our foreign aid, Israel’s per capita income rivals our own.”"

Both Congressmen recently received $25 million in contributions from the Friends of Zionism (FIZ). In response to reporters’ questions, Rep. Llewellyn replied that, unlike the $15 million Presidential candidate Gingrich received from Sheldon Adelson, his donation had no strings attached:....;}

"The tell-tale sign that the US is run by foreign elites seeking to control our political system is obvious: the two remaining Presidential candidates are near equally desirous of pleasing foreigners in Israel or dual Israeli citizens in the US. This is simple to understand: money talks. Rich Jews cynically buy votes thinking this will prevent anti-semitism via suppression of human rights and civil rights of free speech via government suppression of free speech. And of course, wars against perceived enemies of Jewish ethnic cleansing.

The US embargo of Iran is collapsing bit by tiny bit, more and more the rest of humanity is discovering or creating various economic, banking and insurance systems to override the Zionist global push to isolate a major oil export power.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   22:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1349. To: All (#1341)

Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Mubarak dead?

Israeli TV reported his death before Egyptian TV.

I agree: he belongs to Israel more than he belongs to Egypt.

Good riddance. Posted by As'ad AbuKhalil at 6:17 PM

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   22:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1350. To: A K A Stone (#0)

See, as I've been pointing out regularly here with the Afghans, the Empire

can Not replace the Truth with Silence and then decide that the insurgents news feeds are getting accepted by folks like antiwar....

"Taliban, NATO Differ on Accounts After Attack on NATO Base Violence Spikes Across Kandahar, Nearby Provinces by Jason Ditz, June 19, 2012 Print This | Share This

Violence is again on the rise in southern Afghanistan tonight, following a pre-dawn attack on a NATO base which has produced several different stories and a number of other strikes elsewhere.

Exactly what happened in the pre-dawn attack is unclear, with the Taliban claiming over 40 NATO troops killed, NATO claiming no one killed, and other reports putting the toll anywhere in between the two figures."

and then issue their own AgitProp....

Why don't we go see how the Taliban detail their version.....

Successful Kandahar operations and Jacobson’s baseless claims Imran Khalil

Tuesday, 29 Rajab 1433 Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:33

Tens of foreign and internal enemy troops killed and wounded in today’s attacks

Early this morning (19/06/2012) as part of spring Al-Farooq campaign, martyrdom seekers of Islamic Emirate launched attacks on two enemy bases in Kandahar province which left tens of foreign troops and their internal hirelings dead and wounded.

The first attack took place at around 03:00 am local time in Shahwalikot district on a NATO base in Dahli Band area when 6 martyrdom seekers (one group comprised of Hafiz Ismail, Abdul Bar and lead by Ahmad Khalil and another group comprised Atta ur Rahman, Wali ullah and lead by Yousuf; all residents of Kandahar) armed with AKs, PKs, RPGs, hand grenades and explosives vests stormed inside and easily reached the enemy residential barracks where they opened fire on the shocked and unprepared enemy with small arms from a very close range.

According to received reports, the Mujahideen took over the base after 3 hours, set fire to the enemy barracks and equipment and carried on fighting for 5 more hours after which all the Mujahideen embraced martyrdom and at the same time killed 30 foreign invaders, wounded 14 others and similarly destroyed 12 military vehicles and 8 fuel tankers with heavy arms fire."

Note the detail....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-19   23:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1351. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#331. To: All (#330)

When Jamie Dimon has to start acting like Assange and is treated like Bradley Manning, you'll know that we're making prgoess....;}

"The WikiLeaks founder is motivated by one thing: a desire to avoid extradition to the U.S. Can anyone blame him?

June 19, 2012

"The majority of each of the charges carries the possibility of up to 10 years in prison. So, even if he did not get life in prison, he could be in prison for life because the charges could add up to quite a long sentence.

Manning has been imprisoned for over 700 days, leading many supporters to argue he has been the subject of preemptive prosecution. He was arrested in June 2010. He was briefly held in Kuwait before being transferred to Quantico Marine brig in Virginia. There he was subjected to inhumane treatment and kept in isolation because the Marines placed him on "prevention of injury" (POI) watch, contending he might try to commit suicide. Psychologists disputed this and the designation was likely a form of retaliation that commonly occurs to alleged whistle-blowers. He was stripped naked and forced to sleep without any clothes two nights in a row in the spring of 2011. This created a large amount of controversy for the Obama administration and Manning was transferred from Quantico to Fort Leavenworth in Kansas in April 2011."

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-20   7:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1352. To: All (#1351)

The question each of us has to address is, Which side are you on? If you knew that those in control were working to box you into a freight car headed to an unknown future, but which would likely involve Fresh Towels and Hot Showers, would you get on the train or would you take the fight to them?

And would you take the fight to them knowing that they controlled all of the vectors and tools of violence with force overwhelming to individual scale? Indeed, our elites have changed the laws to enable the military to operate with impunity here in the "North American battleground"

(yes, friends, if you are paying the least bit of attention, we are indeed the enemy), as they have likewise militarized our local police forces, complete with spiffy looking SWAT team suits, armored vehicles. and drones, as the latest invention.

We have as our president the only Nobel Peace Prize winner with a personal kill list. So it may be well to say that we're living in a time where the lessons of history no longer inform what we may be able to infer about the future. All bets are off.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-20   8:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1353. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#333. To: All (#332)

And start adding zeros behind NATO (Greece, Spain, Italy) ISAF when talking about the afghans....;}

"Share this on: Facebook Twitter Digg delicious reddit MySpace StumbleUpon LinkedIn 11 killed after suicide bomber targets NATO, Afghan forces From Masoud Popalzai, CNN updated 6:28 AM EDT, Wed June 20, 2012 STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* NEW: NATO: ISAF forces were among the casualties, but the number is unclear * The attack took place in Afghanistan's southeastern Khost province * Health official: 15 others are wounded

Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- A suicide bomber on a motorcycle targeted a NATO/Afghan security patrol Wednesday in southeastern Afghanistan, killing at least 11 people, officials said.

The attack also wounded 15 people, said Amir Padshah Mangal, director of the public health department in Khost province. The blast occurred in the town of Khost.

Capt. Dan Einert, a spokesman for NATO's International Security Assistance Force, confirmed there were ISAF casualties, but could not say how many or whether they were killed or wounded."

WRH:

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Today’s successful martyrdom attacks in Kandahar Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Tuesday, 29 Rajab 1433 Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:18

KANDAHAR, Jun. 19 – Early this morning at around 06:00 am, multiple martyrdom seeking Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate equipped with explosives vests, heavy and light arms entered a joint enemy base in Dand district’s old city and opened fire on the enemy inside where so far40 invaders have been killed and wound 14 others wounded whereas nearly 70 hireling troops have been killed and wounded. 3 captains including Abdul Qudoos are also among the dead. The fighting has lasted for 6 hours now and is still said to be ongoing at the moment.

Meanwhile another martyrdom attack by several Mujahideen is also underway sice 03:00 am this morning inside an ISAF base, located in Dahli Band area of Shahwalikot district during which dozens of invaders have been killed and wounded. The operation has now reached a phase where the Mujahideen have baracaded themselves inside the base and are engaging the enemy which is outside.

These attacks took place one day after an attack inside a check post by 3 Afghan police on the invaders in Sanzari area of Zhiri district in which 5 invaders were killed and 12 others wounded. One of the police officer was later martyred by an IED as all three came out of the check post with seized military equipment whereas the 2 others successfully joined the Mujahideen and gave up the spoils.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-20 8:10:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #334. To: All (#333)

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Mujahideen down US invaders helicopter Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Wednesday, 30 Rajab 1433 Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:52

PAKTIA, Jun. 20 – Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate later on Tuesday shot a US invaders’ attack helicopter near the center of Zurmat district, Paktia province, causing the helicopter to be set on fire and fell down midway to a nearby base after attempting hard to land there. Witnesses said the helicopter was burned down killing all the invaders aboard.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-20   8:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1354. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Capt. Dan Einert, a spokesman for NATO's International Security Assistance Force, confirmed there were ISAF casualties, but could not say how many or whether they were killed or wounded."

And what really got me was last night PM nat'l CBSNEws...

David Martin, when describing a previous event saying

"at least Two US soldiers died".....WTF!?

You mean you don't know exactly how many US soldiers died in that 'incident' but it was at least two?....just fu cking pathetic.

"You know, I paint all sorts of pictures based on the Spanish Inquisition and the Reign of Terror, but the fact of the matter here is that if you simply took away all their wealth and power and dropped these folks into a Housing Project in Chicago and left them their Shoelaces, Silk Neckties and Gucci Belts, they would all Hang THEMSELVES in short order.

So if you want to go about it this way to absolve yourself of a sense of Guilt for lopping off their Heads, I am fine with that one also. Regardless of the means here, whether it is Sepuku or Capital Punishment, the situation is going to create the BLOWBACK from people who once had power, now removed.

They will attempt Counter Revolutions and so forth. So you get forced into a battle here no matter what, and people DIE no matter what. Practical sort of fellow that I am, I work my way through this dynamic to try to find the pathway with the least pain and the greatest survivability for the typical Slave in our society.

The means I see working best is to take the battle to the Illuminati(Top 400...;} before they get the Death Camps rolling in earnest here.

You do have to wait for the Failure of the Conduits though, because as long as the Iluminati have the Big Ass Military and Gestapo organized up and functioning, you stand no chance here. Once those Conduits fracture though, the playing field is LEVELLED. Then you don’t just get MAD, you get EVEN."

We leave the Afghans by Xmas.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-20   9:07:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1355. To: All (#1354)

GREECE GOES MISSING

" June 20, 2012

EUROBLOWN: Now it really is, as Spain & Italy to get….

$750 BILLION

That’s $1500 for every EU citizen…to bail out two countries Worse still, two-thirds of it doesn’t exist

Every penny of it represents completely wasted money. Why?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-20   9:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1356. To: redleghunter (#1342)

Natural Gas Advances on Forecasts of Triple-Digit Texas Heat By Christine Buurma - 2012-06-20T13:16:34Z

www.bloomberg.com/news/20...ple-digit-texas-heat.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-20   9:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1357. To: redleghunter (#1342)

Monday, June 18, 2012 Jeff Masters: Damages from 3-hour hailstorm in Dallas, TX, on June 13, 2012, may top $2 billion Damages from 3-hour hailstorm in Dallas, TX, on June 13, 2012, may top $2 billion

by Dr. Jeff Masters, WunderBlog, June 18, 2012

Insured damage from a massive 3-hour hailstorm that pummeled Dallas, Texas, on Wednesday, June 13,

may reach $2 billion,

said the Southwestern Insurance Information Service (SIIS) on Friday. If true, this would be the 4th billion-dollar U.S. weather disaster of 2012. A cluster of 3 severe thunderstorms dropped hail the size of baseballs over a heavily populated area, damaging thousands of cars, puncturing skylights at a local mall, and shattering the expensive tile roofs of hundreds of homes. It was the second major hailstorm to hit the region this year; an April 3 event cost close to $500 million and damaged 110 airplanes at the DFW airport.

Not..a...fucking...word....from ....ANY.....USSAMSM.....

the truth replaced by silence is evil.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-20   9:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1358. To: All (#1357) (Edited)

One of the most expensive hailstorms of all-time The June 13 hailstorm will rank as one of the most expensive of all-time, according to statistics of billion-dollar disasters maintained by NOAA's National Climatic Data Center (NCDC), and a list of damaging hail events maintained atWikipedia. Wikipedia lists only three hailstorms in U.S. history with damages exceeding $1 billion:

CLIMATE CHANGE....fundy's.....expect more as the Arctic has passed 400 ppm of CO2 now....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-20   9:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1359. To: A K A Stone (#0)

We also know observing what is going on right now around the world in impoverished countries that the people do not start Rioting and overthrowing their Goobermints UNTIL they are starving. So why were people here rioting if they weren’t starving? Makes no sense.

We also know that opportunistic infections and diseases like Tuberculosis and Pneumonia and Rickets were rampant during the Great Depression. Somehow these diseases became more virulent even though nobody was Starving? Not likely, the reason there were more epidemics of these things is likely because the population as a whole was weakened by malnourishment. So on the Death Certificate it doesn’t get recorded as Starvation, but as Pneumonia. In reality, they starved.

Man, if it looks like a Dead Fish; if it smells like a Dead Fish, it IS a Dead Fish. People definitely did starve during the Great Depression, but no records were ever published on how many it actually was. At a certain point the MSM just ignored it. It would not have played very well against FDRs Fireside Chats preaching Hope and “the only thing we have to Fear is Fear itself”. Sound familiar? Goobermint Hopium.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-20   10:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1360. To: mcgowanjm (#1359)

We also know observing what is going on right now around the world in impoverished countries that the people do not start Rioting and overthrowing their Goobermints UNTIL they are starving. So why were people here rioting if they weren’t starving? Makes no sense.

Perhaps we are beyond rioting. The people are revolting.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-20   12:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1361. To: mcgowanjm (#1360)

We also know observing what is going on right now around the world in impoverished countries that the people do not start Rioting and overthrowing their Goobermints UNTIL they are starving. So why were people here rioting if they weren’t starving? Makes no sense.

Perhaps we are beyond rioting. The people are revolting.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-20   14:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1362. To: mcgowanjm, TooConservative, Liberator, A K A Stone (#1358)

CLIMATE CHANGE....fundy's.....expect more as the Arctic has passed 400 ppm of CO2 now....;}

Thanks for the warning Jim. I see you have joined the "high priest" of carbon credits, Algorie:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-20   14:56:57 ET  (22 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1363. To: mcgowanjm (#1340)

yaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn .................

"I feel your pain SCUM.

I'm NOT going to treat you as if you were a functioning decent human being SCUM, because you are not.

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems. Obviously your brother was your elder. He was obviously LOVED and ADORED by your mother whose love of him you were and are jealous of.

Add this to the fact that your brother's death at ANZIO was a heroic or at the very least a very BRAVE act, you were really able to gen up a white hot hate for HIM and HIS CAUSE.

You always had to live in the shadow of HIS life and death, you had to accept that his life and death were heroic and substantsive as opposed to your own cowardly and meaningless term.

EVERYONE in your family and neighbors knew that you were and are the lesser of the two "men".

I don't debate mentally ill, intellectually dishonest LYING COWARDS, (dat's you jimmmy boy).

You aren't even capable of writing a basic third grade level sentence. You just make shit up, you never provide accepted form citations to your absurd made up shit, because, it's, well, ... it's absurd made up shit.

My ONLY purpose in engaging with you as if you were sane or even decent is to show EVERYONE what SCUM you really are, by dint of letting you gibber away in your own words SCUM.

Bloviate away SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-20   16:17:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1364. To: redleghunter, Jimmy McGore, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#1362) (Edited)

Jimmy: "CLIMATE CHANGE....fundy's.....expect more as the Arctic has passed 400 ppm of CO2 now....;}

Thanks for the warning Jim. I see you have joined the "high priest" of carbon credits, Algorie:

OUCH! That's gonna leave a mark (other than "666"). Chick +1, McGowan and Gore, ZERO :-)

Need some Arctic "ice" for that, Jimmy? Ask Gaia. No...BEG her. Maybe THIS is the year that sadistic godess of yours (and Algore's) rolls out 'Ice Age, Part II' and again murders billions of living creatures - you know, like the ones whose fossils and bones she's left in her perpetual menopausal wake throughout history.

Jimmy...can you answer these questions:

WHY has Gaia been soooo mean to the Earth's inhabitants? Why has she turned planet earth upside down (and doomed all the plants and creatures living at jungles at the poles?) Hmmm...maybe Dinosaurs DID use fossil fuels....

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-20   18:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1365. To: Mad Dog, mcgowanjm, Redleghunter (#1363)

You jumped the shark by shitting on your own brother.

Which is OBVIOUSLY the real source of your mental and emotional problems.

Dawg, I dunno where and how Jimmy jumped the shark...

Here's a guy searching for the truth...but wanting so very much to blame the God he believes doesn't exist - and (in his warped eyes) His enablers: "Fundies"...

The answer to his riddle is smack-dab in front of his face. A mirror.

It is the sin of man - HIS greed, HIS envy, HIS evil, HIS lies, HIS entitlement, HIS enslavement that Jimmy sez he opposes but actually endorses. That's called "hypocrisy". And the ultimate elitism. JUST LIKE THE ALGORES and 0BUMAS of this world.

Yet and still the sadistic ant-Christ/anarchist is rooting for the earth to commit suicide. AGAIN. One might think an atheist or Gaia-worshiper would say, "MO MAS!" - that the Ice Age and Great Flood were enough punishment.

Jimmy, as you sit in judgment of your own Ivory Tower (hmmm, how many elephants did Gaia kill for that??), what inner satisfaction do YOU hope to gain from wishing ill of "Fundies" and the rest of earth's inhabitants?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-20   18:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1366. To: Liberator (#1365)

It is the sin of man - HIS greed, HIS envy, HIS evil, HIS lies, HIS entitlement, HIS enslavement that Jimmy sez he opposes but actually endorses. That's called "hypocrisy". And the ultimate elitism. JUST LIKE THE ALGORES and 0BUMAS of this world.

Yep.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-20   20:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1367. To: Liberator (#1365)

Yet and still the sadistic ant-Christ/anarchist is rooting for the earth to commit suicide. AGAIN. One might think an atheist or Gaia-worshiper would say, "MO MAS!" - that the Ice Age and Great Flood were enough punishment.

Let me know if you can see the Chick pics I have posted. Here is one that fits this thread:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-21   12:28:32 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1368. To: redleghunter, mcgowanjm (#1367)

Yep, I can see this Chick Tract just fine, Red...Jimmy can too (and by coincidence, "Jimmy" was the name of the Christian beaten by the rebel/anarchist/fascist brother.)

THE perfect toon that highlights useful Leftist-Anarchist tools like mcgowan.

YOUR future, Jimbo. Why would the elites need YOU after the SHTF? Go ahead - take out all the "Fundies" and Capitalists you want and watch as YOUR OWN world degrades into the hell you think it is already. You ain't seen nothin' yet. But don't say you haven't been forewarned.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-21   13:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1369. To: Liberator, mcgowanjm, Redleghunter (#1365)

Dawg, I dunno where and how Jimmy jumped the shark...

Here's a guy searching for the truth...but wanting so very much to blame the God he believes doesn't exist - and (in his warped eyes) His enablers: "Fundies"...

The answer to his riddle is smack-dab in front of his face. A mirror.

It is the sin of man - HIS greed, HIS envy, HIS evil, HIS lies, HIS entitlement, HIS enslavement that Jimmy sez he opposes but actually endorses. That's called "hypocrisy". And the ultimate elitism. JUST LIKE THE ALGORES and 0BUMAS of this world.

Yet and still the sadistic ant-Christ/anarchist is rooting for the earth to commit suicide. AGAIN. One might think an atheist or Gaia-worshiper would say, "MO MAS!" - that the Ice Age and Great Flood were enough punishment.

Jimmy, as you sit in judgment of your own Ivory Tower (hmmm, how many elephants did Gaia kill for that??), what inner satisfaction do YOU hope to gain from wishing ill of "Fundies" and the rest of earth's inhabitants?

I was taught to "be a Roman in TRUTH".

Which means that you seek the truth without reservation. With COURAGE.

No honest person who lives in THIS world doubts the reality of GOD.

Whenever I see people say "I see no evidence of GOD in this world" it amazes and confuses me a bit.

I see EVIDENCE of GOD EVERYWHERE.

With every breath that I take, when my puppies shred the immediate area, in EVERY tree and bush and bird and critter. In the children and the elders of the hood. EVERYWHERE there is order and structure.

ORDER and STRUCTURE do NOT just fall out of chaos over infinite time.

You have to deny the entire universe to deny HIM.

Then,

WITHOUT HIM, any stupid thing is possible.

Such as hating your own brother so much that you devote your life to destroying what he DIED for.

IMO, "libTURDISM is a terminal mental disease."

Look at the so called "writing" that jimma boy pumps out. It's jimma boy. It's LIES it's WRONG it's insane and stupid and most of all it's filled with HATE for everything most of us LOVE.

jimma boy should be held up as an object of scorn and ridicule and in the end pity.

If he wasn't so repulsive he'd be funny.

As it is he's just absurd and foul.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-21   17:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1370. To: Mad Dog, mcgowanjm, Redleghunter (#1369)

I was taught to "be a Roman in TRUTH".

Which means that you seek the truth without reservation. With COURAGE.

No honest person who lives in THIS world doubts the reality of GOD.

Whenever I see people say "I see no evidence of GOD in this world" it amazes and confuses me a bit.

I see EVIDENCE of GOD EVERYWHERE.

With every breath that I take, when my puppies shred the immediate area, in EVERY tree and bush and bird and critter. In the children and the elders of the hood. EVERYWHERE there is order and structure.

ORDER and STRUCTURE do NOT just fall out of chaos over infinite time.

You have to deny the entire universe to deny HIM.

Then,

WITHOUT HIM, any stupid thing is possible.

Such as hating your own brother so much that you devote your life to destroying what he DIED for.

WELL stated...

Look at the so called "writing" that jimma boy pumps out. It's jimma boy. It's LIES it's WRONG it's insane and stupid and most of all it's filled with HATE for everything most of us LOVE...jimma boy should be held up as an object of scorn and ridicule and in the end pity. If he wasn't so repulsive he'd be funny.

Again, you hit the mark. BULLSEYE.

Somewhere, somehow I believe Jimmy is projecting an abuse and lies HE has received down the line.

I'd like to see him admit to and resolve the source of his addictive hate of God and His people, but first he'll have to admit he's got a problem that utterly CONSUMES him...and then call out the name of The One (and NOT 0buma) who CAN help.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-21   18:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1371. To: Liberator, SJN, GarySpFc (#1370)

Liberator: Glad to see you up and running here at LF. Miss ya at LP. LP is a less "fun" site without you, SJN and some others.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-22   13:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1372. To: Liberator (#1370)

Somewhere, somehow I believe Jimmy is projecting an abuse and lies HE has received down the line.

We are ALL products of our own lives.

MOST of us are able to transcend our limitations and go on with the trivia of everyday life.

BUT a percentage always falls out.

jimma is a broken person. It's OBVIOUS that he lives on his spit flecked HATE of most of what we love.

WHY he hates is another subject that frankly outside of fucking with him I have no real interest in.

I just want to make sure that decent people see what he and his ilk really ARE. Which is hate filled insane Hate America FIRST! illiterate useful idiots.

Being a witness to my own individual take on what is objective TRUTH is my only goal on these forums.

My job is to SAY what others fear to even think.

FTW.

"I will NOT comply."

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-22   15:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1373. To: Liberator, A K A Stone, TooConservative (#1370)

Found on the Chick out of print site:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-22   16:31:00 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1374. To: A K A Stone (#0)

When was the last time a foreign country won a war in Afghanistan? I think you have to go back to the seventh century to find one, so WTH are we still doing there?

We'll never know the real reasons we ever stepped foot in that country.

“I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.” - Dwight D. Eisenhower “My first wish is to see this plague of mankind, war, banished from the earth.” – George Washington “You can’t say civilization don’t advance… in every war they kill you in a new way.” – Will Rogers

Robin posted on 2012-06-22 11:25:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #5. To: Robin (#4) (Edited)

We'll never know the real reasons we ever stepped foot in that country.

We know the EXACT reasons now.

To Pipeline oil/gas thru to Chindia/SE Asia while bypassing/containing Iran and containing Russia.

And get a ready supply of the World's Largest source of Opium.

The War for the JEWS.

Netanyahu in NYC the Day of 9/11 when asked the effect of same.

"It will be good, very good for Israel."....;}

And of course the Trillions spent on the MIC....always the MIC....;}

All the while Covering up the Last Big Bubble which itself covered PEAK OIL.....;}

All over now as the USSA implodes/disintegrates.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   9:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1375. To: All (#1374) (Edited)

Which line will move to meet the other...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   9:26:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1376. To: redleghunter (#1373) (Edited)

ignorance knows no bounds....;}

" General Sergei Akhromeyev, commander of the Soviet armed forces, address(ed) the Soviet Politburo in 1986. "There is no piece of land in Afghanistan that has not been occupied by one of our soldiers at some time or another. Nevertheless much of the territory stays in the hands of the terrorists. We control the provincial centres, but we cannot maintain political control over the territory we seize."… General Akhromeyev demanded extra troops – or the war in Afghanistan would continue "for a very, very long time".

And how's this for a quotation from, say, a British or US commander in Helmand today? "Our soldiers are not to blame. They've fought incredibly bravely in adverse conditions. But to occupy towns and villages temporarily has little value in such a vast land where the insurgents can just disappear into the hills." Yes, of course, this was Gen Akhromeyev in 1986[152] .

The American war in Afghanistan will end after NATO country militaries withdraw. This process began with the Dutch in 2010, the Canadians in 2011 and will accelerate in 2011.

The Germans have now announced an exit date for 2011[153]. No amount of purchased or bribed Croatian, Mongolian, Lithuanian, Georgian and other such troops can replace the old NATO contingents. In the end, bodies tell the story, America’s lost war in Afghanistan will cease, cut by the scissors of Afghan bodies and mounting U.S. military bodies (Figure 1).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   9:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1377. To: Liberator (#1370)

BUWAHAHAHAHA ....bu ....WAHAHAHAHA...8D

So you pick My thread to talk your Bull shit?

LMFAO

Welcome back, libby...welcome back....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   9:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1378. To: mcgowanjm (#1374)

Robin posted on 2012-06-22 11:25:53 ET

Robin is a POS Obama supporter. Her site gets 4 comments a day. Besides your and hers.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-23   9:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1379. To: Mad Dog, A K A Stone, All (#1369)

Morning...something's changed.

MD, with the Aid and connivance of A K A Stone, is now the Mentor/Pastor/Non Cussing HECK raiser of LF....

LMFuckingAO....;}

Squirm, pig...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   9:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1380. To: A K A Stone (#1378)

And you're a SCUM abettor of MD....;}

Next....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   9:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1381. To: mcgowanjm (#1379)

Morning...something's changed.

MD, with the Aid and connivance of A K A Stone, is now the Mentor/Pastor/Non Cussing HECK raiser of LF....

Ok that was funny.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-23   9:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1382. To: A K A Stone (#1378)

You think these fuckers on my thread are perceived as Indie actors?

Like Al Qaeda is not really the CIA?

Please.

You regulate the site.

You allow and entertain them.

And Robin has her faults, but nothing like the crew that's infesting my thread here....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   9:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1383. To: A K A Stone (#1381)

Ok that was funny.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   9:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1384. To: mcgowanjm (#1383)

www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-23   10:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1385. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The other Big Idea is the institutionalization of theft, the ‘Greatish Game’. This isn’t a particularly new, what inspired the Spanish Conquistadors hard on the heels of Chris Colon post-1492 was theft from American natives of whatever wasn’t bolted down, then the theft of the natives themselves. Not much has changed since the 16th century, the methods have become more diverse and the natives have become slightly more skeptical. The popular instrument is investment fraud/currency traps: cars, suburban ‘villas’, ‘collectibles’, swim-pools, stocks, credit default swaps, subordinated- and un-subordinated loans, REITs, gold mines and gold mining stocks, mega-yachts, private submarines … the Endless China Boom that will save/overrun the world, (Bloomberg):

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   11:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1386. To: A K A Stone (#1384)

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel

Watch me not open this.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   11:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1387. To: Mad Dog (#1372) (Edited)

We are ALL products of our own lives.

MOST of us are able to transcend our limitations and go on with the trivia of everyday life.

BUT a percentage always falls out.

We are all tested differently; how we cope (or surrender) may have more to do with our childhood influences and spiritual rearing.

In BOTH cases there are casualties, aren't there?

jimma is a broken person. It's OBVIOUS that he lives on his spit flecked HATE of most of what we love....WHY he hates is another subject that frankly outside of fucking with him I have no real interest in. I just want to make sure that decent people see what he and his ilk really ARE. Which is hate filled insane Hate America FIRST! illiterate useful idiots.

I empathize with any broken person...Some are more adept at handling physical and mental pain, while others surrender body and soul. Jimmy's one of those people. I don't believe he "hates" as much as he lets on; I sense he feels an abandonment and betrayal - THAT is what he hates, and projects that hate.

Just how and why...Only he knows. It doesn't still mean he's doing the Devil's Work, however. "Decent People" DO notice what he's doing; He has a Samson Complex - only his is in the name of destroying all that is good. (or in his warped mind - God, Jesus Christ, and "Fundies"' civilization.)

Being a witness to my own individual take on what is objective TRUTH is my only goal on these forums. My job is to SAY what others fear to even think.

FWIW, Dawg, I agree with you a large majority of the time. You often make great points. I just think you'd be far more effective with a few less necessary "colorful embellishments". You know what I mean.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-23   11:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1388. To: A K A Stone (#1381)

(Jimmy: "MD, with the Aid and connivance of A K A Stone, is now the Mentor/Pastor/Non Cussing HECK raiser of LF....")

Ok that was funny.

Jimmy's still filtered, but he can be humorous at times...when he's not demonizing the Christianity, Capitalism, and Human Progress that have provided him with whatever (relative) freedom, comforts, and technology he currently is allowed at the sanitarium.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-23   11:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1389. To: redleghunter (#1373)

Those demons are hilarious!

Still another GREAT toon by Chick.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-23   11:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1390. To: redleghunter (#1371) (Edited)

Glad to see you up and running here at LF. Miss ya at LP. LP is a less "fun" site without you, SJN and some others.

Thanks brutha...

The Statist agenda, sabotage, and purge of the sane continues at LP.

Too bad controlling interest of its forum was bought out by the Canary, the Plagiarist, and Admiral Blackmail.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-23   12:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1391. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Re: Pakistan discussion

Picasso Moon wrote:No branch of TPTB has ever committed suicide. These people fight to the death. The American branch will commit suicide if it starts pulling back from the empire, as once a branch pulls back, other branches push right in.

The USSA 'branch' is the tree trunk.... :? 8-)

The periphery crumbles. See the USSR for details..... :twisted:

Sep 2009:

“Instead Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, presented a list of clandestine counterterrorism operations that the CIA wanted to conduct in Pakistan, such as stepping up drone attacks, raising the number of CIA agents and covert contractors, and even setting up a parallel intelligence organisation that would be hidden from the ISI,” Rashid said.

“The CIA’s recommendations were accepted, but they soon led to a complete breakdown of relations with Pakistan.”

Rashid writes that both the Pakistani and the Afghan governments resented the fact that a major US escalation of troops was being undertaken without consulting them or soliciting their views.

By Mansoor Ijaz

Early on May 9, a week after US Special Forces stormed the hideout of Osama bin Laden and killed him, a senior Pakistani diplomat telephoned me with an urgent request. Asif Ali Zardari, Pakistan’s president, needed to communicate a message to White House national security officials that would bypass Pakistan’s military and intelligence channels. The embarrassment of bin Laden being found on Pakistani soil had humiliated Mr Zardari’s weak civilian government to such an extent that the president feared a military takeover was imminent. He needed an American fist on his army chief’s desk to end any misguided notions of a coup – and fast. Gen Ashfaq Kayani, the army chief, and his troops were demoralised by the embarrassing ease with which US special forces had violated Pakistani sovereignty. Inter-Services Intelligence, Pakistan’s feared spy service, was charged by virtually the entire international community with complicity in hiding bin Laden for almost six years. Both camps were looking for a scapegoat; Mr Zardari was their most convenient target. The diplomat made clear that the civilian government’s preferred channel to receive Mr Zardari’s message was Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff. He was a time-tested friend of Pakistan and could convey the necessary message with force not only to President Barack Obama, but also to Gen Kayani. In a flurry of phone calls and emails over two days a memorandum was crafted that included a critical offer from the Pakistani president to the Obama administration:

“The new national security team will eliminate Section S of the ISI charged with maintaining relations to the Taliban, Haqqani network, etc. This will dramatically improve relations with Afghanistan.”

The memo was delivered to Admiral Mullen at 14.00 hours on May 10. A meeting between him and Pakistani national security officials took place the next day at the White House. Pakistan’s military and intelligence chiefs, it seems, neither heeded the warning, nor acted on the admiral’s advice. On September 22, in his farewell testimony to the Senate armed services committee, Admiral Mullen said he had “credible intelligence” that a bombing on September 11 that wounded 77 US and Nato troops and an attack on the US embassy in Kabul on September 13 were done “with ISI support.”

Essentially he was indicting Pakistan’s intelligence services for carrying out a covert war against the US – perhaps in retaliation for the raid on bin Laden’s compound, perhaps out of strategic national interest to put Taliban forces back in power in Afghanistan so that Pakistan would once again have the “strategic depth” its paranoid security policies against India always envisioned.

Source: www.defence.pk/forums/strategic- ... z1ydZXKY8d

Memo from Zardari to Mike Mullen November 19, 2011 . 328 Comments in Featured Articles

BRIEFING FOR ADM. MIKE MULLEN, CHAIRMAN, JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF

During the past 72 hours since a meeting was held between the president, the prime minister and the chief of army staff, there has seen a significant deterioration in Pakistan’s political atmosphere. Increasingly desperate efforts by the various agencies and factions within the government to find a home – ISI and/or Army, or the civilian government – for assigning blame over the UBL raid now dominate the tug of war between military and civilian sectors. Subsequent tit-for-tat reactions, including outing of the CIA station chief’s name in Islamabad by ISI officials, demonstrates a dangerous devolution of the ground situation in Islamabad where no central control appears to be in place.

November 26, 2011 6:03 AM

Pakistan: 24 dead in NATO helicopter attack

(AP)

Last Updated 4:22 p.m. ET

PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Pakistan on Saturday accused NATO helicopters of firing on two army checkpoints in the country's northwest and killing 24 soldiers, then retaliated by closing the border crossings used by the coalition to supply its troops in neighboring Afghanistan.

(The death toll was previously reported as 26.)

The incident Friday night was a major blow to already strained relations between Islamabad and U.S.-led forces fighting in Afghanistan. It will add to perceptions in Pakistan that the American presence in the region is malevolent, and to resentment toward the weak government in Islamabad for its cooperation with Washington.

And then we were at war with Pakistan.

As this is happening domestically:

When the entire economy is banditry, where are the limits, or are there any?

Banks are failing, to be bailed out by nations needing bailouts themselves: both nations and finance are insolvent. Creditors demand citizens take losses in creditors’ place. This strategy fails as citizens lack the means to absorb any more losses. Creditors’ positions are too large to be liquidated without effecting markets in a vicious cycle, some creditors are being wiped out. The efforts of central banks to date have kept pace with speculator redemptions which have prevented markets from crashing. These efforts succeed to the extent that speculators do not rush the exits at once.

When creditors take losses the real panic begins: it is every creditor for himself. Nobody cares when ordinary citizens lose everything and wind up on the streets, the elites losing fortunes is too much to bear.

062112 started it.

The week after July 4 will see momentum pick up.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   13:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1392. To: Liberator, A K A Stone, All (#1387)

U stupid fuck.

Notice the thread?

You're in my house dissin' me?

;}

And expect what?

To be ignored by the author while you criticize same?

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...8D

Pagans Unite, eh?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-23   13:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1393. To: mcgowanjm (#1379)

.

LOL!

PISS OFF retard.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-24   4:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1394. To: Liberator (#1387)

FWIW, Dawg, I agree with you a large majority of the time. You often make great points. I just think you'd be far more effective with a few less necessary "colorful embellishments". You know what I mean.

Yeah I do know.

But, I DESPISE people who cannot see past vocabulary into CONTENT.

Like when US FORCES JAPAN secured us from wearing tank tops on liberty in Japan "because American's body hair offended Japanese sensibilities", one of my shipmates asked if maybe we shouldn't get liberty at all since the Japanese were likely more offended by us blowing the shit out of any commie that we could target when we were on the line?

I don't aim any part of my life at three year olds or little old ladies.

I tell the TRUTH, and I tell it for fucking ADULTS.

IMO, IF the vocabulary offends somebody and they can't get past it, FUCK THEM.

I'm NOT trying to convince anybody of anything.

I'm a witness.

Take it or leave it.

(I do appreciate your kind words man. I just think alot of these people need to be slapped out of their daze to pay attention, and adult words are one way to do that.)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-24   4:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1395. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#344. To: Robin (#342)

101 in Denver.

We are now in the Anthropocene.

And it will accelerate from here on out to the Tipping Point.

or

a Rapid Non Linear crash of our economic system,

or

both.

Started 062112, the longest day of the year.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-24   7:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1396. To: Mad Dog (#1393)

Better!

Make it easy to read.

But fucking laughing that you come onto mcgowanjm wire,

anonymously to tell me to

piss off.

And of course you've sinned against jesus by cussing there.

Could be Hell for you now, MD....;}

see you there!

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-24   7:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1397. To: All (#1396) (Edited)

Good way to quick check the USSA's position Worldwide.

Look to the column on the right............................>

No news on the Foreign Front, Bad sign for the USSA's Top .1%.

;}

The crisis in Europe is clearly beyond anything that this generation of establishment leaders has ever seen. The last time that anything like this faced the European establishment, it led to World War II. During the entire postwar period, the United States has been the dominant force in the West. The United States government through the Marshall Plan wrote the checks to keep the European governments afloat, and it funded most of NATO, the mutual defense system that was set up to constrain the expansion of the Soviet Union.

The United States is no longer in a position to bail out anybody. It is running a massive trade deficit, and is running a massive federal deficit. Europe realizes now that, from an economic standpoint, it is on its own. If there are solutions to the European economic crisis, these solutions are going to have to be generated inside the eurozone.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-24   7:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1398. To: All (#1397)

The Good News is that there won;t be a No Fly Zone over Syria anytime soon....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-24   7:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1399. To: All (#1398)

As we always stress, the losses of the banks are a moving target. It may be possible to ascertain their upper boundary to a reasonable degree of certainty, and in Spain's case it is no doubt significantly above this latest guess.

What we do know for sure is that euro area-wide bank borrowings from the ECB have just hit another new all time high:

www.acting-man.com/?p=17852

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-24   7:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1400. To: All (#1399)

Banks At Risk: Today, the entire banking system of Europe is at risk. The banks are highly leveraged, and they have made enormous investments at low-interest rates in bonds issued by governments that are technically insolvent. There is no possibility that any of these bonds will ever be repaid. They were never designed to be repaid. They were designed to keep the taxpayers of all European countries in permanent bondage to the banking system.

Just like the USSA's other Slave States.

WELCOME to the Club, Europe!.......

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-24   7:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1401. To: All (#1400)

From the Zionist warmongers in New York: Military Warns Against Threats to Egypt’s ‘Higher Interests’ – NYTimes.com

“The Armed Forces have emphasized self-control out of respect for the revolutionary state to avoid losses or injuries as part of the people exercise their right to express their opinions,” a spokesman for the ruling military council declared in a statement, suggesting the military’s patience was nearing an end. “Everyone should respect the principles of legitimacy for fear of the dangers of abandoning them.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-24   8:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1402. To: Mad Dog (#1394)

I getcha totally...

Only that "less is more" sometimes ;-)

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-24   10:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1403. To: Mad Dog, mcgowanjm, Redleghunter (#1393)

LOL!

PISS OFF retard.

See? Short and sweet. Lol...I don't know if that's a clinical assessment, BUT....

Poor McGowan. Really. He fancies himself some kind of a Commie/Fascist/Anarchist Paul Revere.

To Jimmy: We all realize it's Satan's World - it's no newsflash for us. The Bible reminds us of this mortal condition. Meanwhile, you're just another of Satan's tools, sucking in all his lies and spreading HIS "gospel" of Hopelessness.

TO WHAT END do you perform your public service?? This world can NEVER be paradise. It will NEVER be "fair". Why not? Because Sin infects man's life. ALL of ours - and that includes mine, Dawg's, and Red's. The ONLY Redemption for even one puny sin is the Blood of Christ and His grace and mercy.

John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"....

John 3:17 - "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." ~ King James Version (KJV)

There it is: Even Jesus admits HE doesn't condemn us; WE condemn *ourselves* come Judgment Day. Will you be ready to face your Maker?

Will your name be in the Book of Life? If you don't wise up soon, the "hell" on this earth you whine on about HERE will be your fate...*forever*. But only far worse. I don't wish that on anyone.

Any real wisdom you possess and hope for the salvation you crave will begin with faith of the grain of a Mustard Seed. PLANT IT. Today. Tomorrow.

But for a few years will you live in this world; The next is....Forever.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-24   11:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1404. To: mcgowanjm (#1396)

LOL!

You whiny cunt.

It's not "your" thread SCUM, it's Stone's thread and it's Stone's site.

I'm not "anonymous" SCUM, certainly way less than YOU are SCUM.

LOL!

I'd worry about my own judgement IF I was YOU SCUM.

LOL!

At the moment SCUM, we're not headed for the same place SCUM.

We might be later if you ever admit you are filth to the LORD.

I won't hold my breath SCUM.

"Your" thread!

What a little whiny cunt you are SCUM.

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-24   14:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1405. To: Liberator (#1402)

.

EXACTOMUNDO!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-24   14:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1406. To: Liberator (#1403)

.

One of the LEGION of differences between me and jimma boy is that I have the choice of writing good or "bad" English.

I PICK how I want to address people and subjects.

I know how to, and have the mental ability to write a clear and concise sentence.

When I want to.

jimma boy hasn't any choice, he's an ignorant FOOL.

Did you ever have the misfortune to read a "Wymins"/"race"/ or other faux libTURD "studies" paper, (or any of jimma mctoejams insane screeds for that matter)?

They are fuctionally illiterate, but they are convinced that they are geniuses.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-24   15:00:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1407. To: A K A Stone (#0)

DEFLATION

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=CT&cot=033661&p=h1

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-25   7:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1408. To: Mad Dog (#1406)

Mister Jimmie to you, asshole.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-25   7:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1409. To: All (#1408)

Now...After taking the Morning's garbage out.

Where was I....o yeah.....;}

America is caught in a confidence or credibility trap, in which the changes, investigations, and reforms necessary to restore trust to an economy or market are rendered unlikely because doing so would expose a pervasive corruption that the principals fear would destroy any remaining trust. It could also endanger the careers of politicians and business people who may have permitted and even appeared to facilitate the control fraud that caused the financial crisis in the first place. Personal risk trumps public stewardship. The fraudulent activity is covered up and therefore continues or at the very least appears to continue....

jessescrossroads

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-25   7:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1410. To: All (#1409)

NY Times A Loophole Big Enough To Lose a Billion By James B. Stewart 24 June 2012 If nothing else, the collapse of MF Global has made one thing clear: The notion that customer assets were safe was a sham. MF Global’s customers, who discovered that the firm had plundered $1.6 billion of their property, learned that the hard way. But they aren’t the only potential victims. The loophole that allowed MF Global to convert more than $1 billion in customer property to its own reckless bet on European debt is still in effect — although the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates futures and commodities brokers, said it had since pressured other firms to stop using it.

per jessescrossroads

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-25   7:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1411. To: All (#1410)

Fukushima plant workers keep saying to us “It could go any minute” kind of thing -Teacher in March 2012 Interview — Even now people say to always have your stuff ready to go (VIDEO, 30 min.)

Published: June 24th, 2012 at 5:07 pm ET By ENENews Email Article Email Article

Along with 14 other reactors.

News Blackout on the damage Cyclone Guchol did as it went right over the top of Fukushima.

Radiation Spike occurring simultaneously.

As the roofs/tarps/covers of reactors ripped off.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-25   7:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1412. To: A K A Stone (#0)

If Jesus showed up at Ben Guron Airport the IDF would shoot him down like a dog...;}

Same in a USSA Mall.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-25   9:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1413. To: All (#1412)

Re: World Markets - URL The Game doesn't just go 'on and on'.

Stop watching the Apologist Apparatchiks whose message is Exactly that.

Quantum Science:

Asymptote after a Parabolic Rise is predated to be as short an interregnum as the Curve is rapid and exponential.

The Downside is based EXACTLY on that Exponential and Sustained 'rocket shot'.

We've been at Asymptote since 2000/01. Over a decade now.

That would be Approx 10% of the Oil Age history spent at Asymptote.

062112 is a s good a date as any.

As the Rest of the World Economy

$70 Trillion of debt holding up $700 trillion in Synthetic Derivatives Debt

Implodes.... :? 8-)

RYviewpoint: How $700 Billion in Bad Debts Destroyed the World ... ryviewpoint.blogspot.com/.../how-700-billion-in-bad-debts-destroye...

Nov 5, 2011 – ... loans could take down a $14 trillion US economy and a $70 trillion world economy? ... But as Matt Taibbi points out, the banks took that bad debt and ... "derivatives" market ballooning the real losses up into trillions and trillions ... books, they promptly Xerox-copied him in the form of synthetic derivatives ...

Satya Center -- Alternative Health, Relationships & Global News http://www.satyacenter.com/

Check back often to see what new goodies Jane and Jaya have cooked up! ... There are $700 trillion in derivative debt instruments resting upon that $70 trillion ... Last edited by mcgowanjm on Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:32 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Post Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:31 am by mcgowanjm Cotton hits 062112 right on the money.... :twisted: :? 8-)

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Watch coffee now.

And sell soy.

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Post Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:38 am by mcgowanjm

Zerohedge, one of our favorite financial sites, because the proprietors are wired to the real insiders. They excerpted a piece by legendary investor and Goldman alum, Raoul Pal. He explains that at best there’s six more months to go before the global financial reset takes place. He details the end of fractional reserve banking as we know it. There’s no avoiding the ultimate crash because $70 trillion of Western Sovereign Debt is holding up over $700 trillion worth of derivatives. No wonder he likens all this to the eye of a hurricane, from which we are just emerging. We’re not talking about any ordinary hurricane, like Katrina which was a category 4-5. Rather, we’re talking about a category 10 storm that will leave no financial edifice standing in its path. But gold and silver will help get us through, and this nuclear economic winter will pass.

And here:

But gold and silver will help get us through, and this nuclear economic winter will pass.

is what will turn 062112 In To TEOTWAKI:

ZH and like minded Gold Bugs keep thinking that Precious Metals are going to hold and rise to (pick a number).

And THAT's impossible as long as the USSA exists.

Silver now at $26+ and people are STILL loading up.

At some point they'll be forced to liquidate...at say.... $10 the oz.

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Post Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:49 am by mcgowanjm Re: World Markets - URL

Post Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:49 am by mcgowanjm Same with those like Dave Cohen (Great Guy-Excellent Analysis) from Decline of the Empire.

Read the Whole thing.... :? 8-)

http://peakwatch.typepad.com/decline_of_the_empire/

2. Industrial civilizations are not going to go out of business because oil is very expensive during the boom times and pricey (but not exorbitantly expensive) during the lulls. Peak oil acts more like a brake (one of many) on global economic growth when times are good.

As Economic-Undertow writes, There is not a 'vacuum of activity' in the world while the USSA adjust to the volatility in price/demand.

And I have yet to see the chart where the 4 MMBD in petrol usage has bottomed.... :twisted:

As usual, we'll know more in 10 years than we know right now.

We'll know by the End of September...I can't imagine a more bearish chart formation than this:

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The BDI is being hammered into the ground. It will not get back up.

I don't worry much about the disasters I write about. The writing is on the wall as far as I'm concerned. But if I were to worry about all these human disasters, where would I rank the threat of peak oil? I don't know. It's certainly a concern, and I do write about it, but I write about lots of stuff. Certainly the longer term is fraught with difficulty if humans are depending on crude oil to fuel economic growth in the 21st century as it did in the 20th.

fraught with difficulty

Here's 'fraught'.... :twisted:

ALL $28 per BBL infrastructure has been wiped out. ALL Marginal Oil production is stopped dead with oil dropping below $70 the BBL.

Credit for Oil purchases (How do you get you collateral back from burned oil :!: :?: ) dries up.

E Money loses it's value by the day now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-25   9:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1414. To: Mad Dog (#1404)

#1404. To: mcgowanjm (#1396)

LOL!

You whiny cunt.

It's not "your" thread SCUM, it's Stone's thread and it's Stone's site.

I'm not "anonymous" SCUM, certainly way less than YOU are SCUM.

So you hate women, blacks, muslims.

Basically a xenophobe.

Just a white male militia wannabe.

With an ARVN battle flag on your bumper....

A USSA brownshirt in other words.

Gotcha.

And quid pro quo, asshole.

Fuck with me....I fuck with you....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-25   9:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1415. To: All (#1414)

"The new Greek Prime Minister had an eye surgery and cannot attend the EU summit meeting. The new Greek Finance Minister became ill and cannot attend the EU summit meeting. Both a tragic turns of events; we are sure. Both coincidental you may think; but not us. Perhaps upon ascending to power and examining the books they have found that everything was not exactly, how shall we say this; Kosher comes to mind. Perhaps the records indicated a far more serious excursion from the facts than previously thought. "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-25   9:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1416. To: All (#1415)

Waiting for the 'pilots' condition.

See F 4 Phantoms Drone targets for details.

[quote]They Shoot Airplanes, Don’t They?

Under United States law (Title 10, Section 2366 of the U.S. Code) a missile system must undergo lethality testing before it can enter full-scale production. This means it must be fired at a combat-configured target, which for air-to-air or surface-to-air missiles is a full-size, fully capable aircraft. The cost and hazards of using a manned aircraft from the active-duty inventory for this purpose are obvious. Instead, the target is an unmanned FSAT drone. As one 82 ATRS pilot summarizes it, "the F-4 is dying, to give birth to new weapons systems."

In support of U.S. test and evaluation activities, Phantom drones also act as targets for non-lethal tests of missiles, radar and other sensors, and defensive systems. They also support Air Force and Navy training, such as "Combat Archer" missile shoots.

Both services also employ sub-scale target drones, which are less costly to operate than FSATs. But only a full-scale target offers the flight characteristics, performance envelope – including subsonic and supersonic flight at altitudes up to and above 50,000 feet – endurance, radar and infrared (IR) signatures, and damage resistance of a real aircraft.[/quote]

[quote]QF-4s are almost always flown with a pilot aboard, unless a weapons launch will occur. Usually he does not touch the controls but stands ready to take over if ground control is lost or the aircraft departs. The pilots fly the aircraft themselves on chase missions and to maintain proficiency.

The aircraft are controlled remotely by the Gulf Range Drone Control System (GRDCS) at Tyndall or the Drone Formation Control System (DFCS) at WSMR. Drone controllers have a flight instrument display on a monitor, but no direct visual contact with the aircraft. A controller may fly, using a joystick and keyboard instead of stick, throttles, and rudder pedals; however, most test and evaluation flights are steered by computer. This allows a test to be flown within exact parameters and repeated exactly if necessary. Up to six QF-4 aircraft can be controlled in formation, using GPS to maintain each in position relative to the flight track.[/quote]

www.fencecheck.com/conten...AF%92s_QF-4_Target_Drones

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-25   9:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1417. To: mcgowanjm (#1376)

ignorance knows no bounds....;}

Interesting, you could be correct. However, what is more dangerous is knowing and rejection. So we know rejection leads to destruction.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-25   11:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1418. To: mcgowanjm, Liberator, A K A Stone (#1392)

Notice the thread?

You're in my house dissin' me?

Yes, congrats you have your own thread. It is all to yourself and you set the agenda and tone. Quite masterful of Stone to give you this padded room all to yourself. Now be nice or your visitations will decline. We can go elsewhere.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-25   11:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1419. To: mcgowanjm (#1408)

LOL!

You mean jimma the insane whiny piece of shit "hate America FIRST!" libTURD commie useful fool boy SCUM.

Right jimma boy?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-25   14:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1420. To: mcgowanjm (#1414)

LOL!

That's all that you have, and all that you know how to do, isn't jimma boy?

LOL!

What a WEAK assed little cunt you are jimma boy.

Every breath you take fucks with America and all decent AMERICAS, you foul little cunt.

All you are is the poster child for libTURD "Hate America FIRST!" SCUM.

You DESPISE the US CONSTITUTION and the AMERICAN PEOPLE. You even despise your own brother who died a hero's death at ANZIO, you even HATE your mother and her love of your own brother.

Yep.

YOU ARE SCUM jimma boy.

YOU ARE SCUM jimma BOY. (with my sincere apologies to SCUM which suffers in the comparison).

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-25   14:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1421. To: mcgowanjm (#1416)

Waiting for the 'pilots' condition.

Update: pilot has assumed room temperature.

So you now think the Turks used drones to cause a NATO outlash?

You are almost as bad as LP's infowarrior.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-25   15:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1422. To: Liberator, Mad Dog, mcgowanjm (#1403)

Hey it took some work, but putting national "assets" to work, I have located "Jimmy Town" USA:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-25   16:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1423. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Must be a Record Hot where you are today....;}

It only gets hotter from here.....

But even the mainstream media know a 4 C increase spells the end of the line for our species. Giving the response I’ve come to expect from politicians, the Obama administration calls any attempt to reduce emissions “not grounded in political reality.”

Have you noticed a set of patterns? Each assessment is quickly eclipsed by another, fundamentally more dire set of scenarios. Every scenario is far too optimistic because each is based on conservative approaches to scenario development.

And every bit of dire news is met by the same political response. Is there any doubt we will try to kill every species on the planet, including our own, by the middle of this century?

At this point, it is absolutely necessary, but probably not sufficient, to bring down the industrial economy. It’s no longer merely the lives of your grandchildren we’re talking about. Depending on your age, it’s the lives of your children or you. If you’re 60 or younger, it’s you.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-26   8:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1424. To: redleghunter (#1422)

Hey! Thanx for stopping by Red,

But I think it's time for your Bible Study.

Better hurry along.

You don't won't to be late for your jesus loves you (and Israel;) stories.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-26   8:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1425. To: redleghunter (#1421)

So you now think the Turks used drones to cause a NATO outlash?

No. The USSA used the drone.

Want to tell me what the Turks are doing with a VietNam war era jet on the front lines?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-26   8:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1426. To: Mad DogLOL! That's all that you have, (#1420)

LOL! That's all that you have,

exactly.

Signed,

Mister Jimmie....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-26   8:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1427. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Debby is definitely compressing the air in the Middle USSA.

110 degrees in the Arkansas River Valley is NOT normal..... :? 8-)

The First D storm in June in History.

We know Earth’s temperature is nearly one degree Centigrade higher than it was at the beginning of the industrial revolution. And 1 C is catastrophic, as indicated by a decades-old cover-up. Already, we’ve triggered several positive feedbacks, none of which were expected to occur by mainstream scientists until we reached 2 C above baseline global average temperature.

guymcpherson.com/2012/06/were-done/

We're done.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-26   9:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1428. To: A K A Stone (#0)

We also know that the situation is far worse than indicated by recent data and models (which are reviewed in the following paragraphs). We’ve known for more than a decade what happens when the planes stop flying: Because particulates were removed when airplanes were grounded, Earth warmed by more than 1 C in the three days following 11 September 2001. In other words, Earth’s temperature is already about 2 C higher than the industrial-revolution baseline. And because of positive feedbacks, 2 C leads directly and rapidly to 6 C, acidification-induced death of the world’s oceans, and the near-term demise of Homo sapiens.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-26   9:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1429. To: mcgowanjm (#1424)

Hosea 4 King James Version (KJV)

4 Hear the word of the Lord, ye children of Israel: for the Lord hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.

2 By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood.

3 Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.

4 Yet let no man strive, nor reprove another: for thy people are as they that strive with the priest.

5 Therefore shalt thou fall in the day, and the prophet also shall fall with thee in the night, and I will destroy thy mother.

6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

7 As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame.

8 They eat up the sin of my people, and they set their heart on their iniquity.

9 And there shall be, like people, like priest: and I will punish them for their ways, and reward them their doings.

10 For they shall eat, and not have enough: they shall commit whoredom, and shall not increase: because they have left off to take heed to the Lord.

11 Whoredom and wine and new wine take away the heart.

12 My people ask counsel at their stocks, and their staff declareth unto them: for the spirit of whoredoms hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God.

13 They sacrifice upon the tops of the mountains, and burn incense upon the hills, under oaks and poplars and elms, because the shadow thereof is good: therefore your daughters shall commit whoredom, and your spouses shall commit adultery.

14 I will not punish your daughters when they commit whoredom, nor your spouses when they commit adultery: for themselves are separated with whores, and they sacrifice with harlots: therefore the people that doth not understand shall fall.

15 Though thou, Israel, play the harlot, yet let not Judah offend; and come not ye unto Gilgal, neither go ye up to Bethaven, nor swear, The Lord liveth.

16 For Israel slideth back as a backsliding heifer: now the Lord will feed them as a lamb in a large place.

17 Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.

18 Their drink is sour: they have committed whoredom continually: her rulers with shame do love, Give ye.

19 The wind hath bound her up in her wings, and they shall be ashamed because of their sacrifices.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-26   12:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1430. To: mcgowanjm (#1425)

No. The USSA used the drone.

Want to tell me what the Turks are doing with a VietNam war era jet on the front lines?

I figured you would know given you are a self proclaimed 'man of international intrigue.'

However, if you must know, the Turks still use the very good airframe for recon missions and electronic warfare purposes.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-26   12:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1431. To: mcgowanjm (#1425)

S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn

San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.

Brinkin, 66, who worked for the San Francisco Human Rights Commission before his retirement in 2010, was taken into custody Friday night. He spent the night in jail before he was released on bail, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff's department.

The district attorney's office will decide Tuesday whether to file charges. "We're still reviewing the case," district attorney's spokeswoman Stephanie Ong Stillman said Monday.

Police say that Brinkin had pornographic images, some that appear to show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized and performing oral sex on adult men, in e-mail attachments linked to his account, according to a search warrant served by San Francisco police.

Representatives of America Online contacted authorities after coming across e- mail attachments from one of its subscriber's accounts containing what they believed to be child pornography.

The Los Angeles Police Department, which was assigned to the case, traced the IP address associated with the account, Zack3737@aol.com, to Brinkin, a San Francisco resident, according to court records. Los Angeles police forwarded the case to San Francisco police.

San Francisco investigators say the account was registered to Brinkin, and that he paid for the e-mail service with his credit card.

Police provided two examples of e-mail messages from last year in which Zack3737 provides disturbing descriptions of the exploitive sexual acts.

The e-mail account also is linked to Yahoo discussion groups on sexual exploitation of young boys and girls, according to the search warrant.

Executing a search warrant Friday, police seized two laptops, a desk top computer, videos, a floppy disk and thumb drives from Brinkin's Waller Street home.

During his 22-year tenure at the Human Rights Commission, Brinkin was best known for championing equal rights for gays and lesbians. He helped craft San Francisco's groundbreaking Equal Benefits Ordinance, which became a national model for workplace equality.

Upon Brinkin's retirement, the Board of Supervisors approved a resolution declaring the week of Feb. 1, 2010, "Larry Brinkin Week" in San Francisco, saying his "dedication to advance the civil rights of all people has never stopped."

Former Supervisor Bevan Dufty who authored the board resolution, said Monday that he was shocked to learn of Brinkin's arrest. "I have admired and respected his work for the LGBT community," Dufty said. "I respect and am confident that there will be due process."

Brinkin did not respond to requests for comment Monday.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-26   14:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1432. To: mcgowanjm (#1426)

MD; LOL!

That's all that you have, and all that you know how to do, isn't jimma boy?

LOL!

What a WEAK assed little cunt you are jimma boy.

Every breath you take fucks with America and all decent AMERICAS, you foul little cunt.

All you are is the poster child for libTURD "Hate America FIRST!" SCUM.

You DESPISE the US CONSTITUTION and the AMERICAN PEOPLE. You even despise your own brother who died a hero's death at ANZIO, you even HATE your mother and her love of your own brother.

Yep.

YOU ARE SCUM jimma boy.

YOU ARE SCUM jimma BOY. (with my sincere apologies to SCUM which suffers in the comparison).

jimma boy Hate America FIRST! SCUM;

"exactly.

Signed,

Mister Jimmie....;}"

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-26   15:15:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1433. To: redleghunter, liberator, All (#1432)

.

I meant to ping y'all to this one!

jimma boy admits that I'm 100% correct in my assessment of him!

Isn't that NICE?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-26   15:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1434. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Hobby of mine is wondering how the Anthropocene is affecting readers here.

With AGW now affecting the Entire USSA, there's no more need....;}

#Parts of Air Force Academy evacuated as Colorado fire ragesLos Angeles Times‎ - 4 hours ago

WOODLAND PARK, Colo. — More than 2100 residents on the Air Force Academy grounds were among about 32000 people being evacuated ...

Wonder if those drones can carry sometyhing useful....

like water.....

Fuck you Air Force...Do something useful why dontcha......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   7:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1435. To: Mad Dog (#1433)

Mister Jimmie to you ass hole.

Hoping you work for the Air Force.....;}

Do something useful.

Go fight a fire......8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   7:42:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1436. To: redleghunter (#1431)

WACO RECORD HEAT

Start worrying about something close.....;}

http://waco.ynn.com/images/weather/header_localforecast.gif

A sizzler of a Tuesday turned out to be a record-tying event in Waco! Our fifth triple digit day of the month, a high of 107 at 458pm tied the 32 year old (1980) daily record. Peak heat index or "feels like" temps ranged from 107 to 111.

Temps cooled off through the night to a range of morning 70s to near 80:

IT won't get any cooler.

Maybe you can help refit those drones to drop water instead of hellfires....

The AF could sure use some.....LMFAO....;}

#Parts of Air Force Academy evacuated as Colorado fire ragesLos Angeles Times‎ - 4 hours agoWOODLAND PARK, Colo. — More than 2100 residents on the Air Force Academy grounds were among about 32000 people being evacuated ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   7:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1437. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Somalis are escaping ConocoPhillips War for the Oil.

CLimate change is secondary here.....

Copenhagen climate summit: Five possible scenarios for our future climate

With talks in Copenhagen descending into chaos, the prospects for stabilising temperatures below 'dangerous' levels look increasingly slim. Here are five possible scenarios for our future climate

Alok Jha * guardian.co.uk, Friday 18 December 2009 12.38 EST

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... -scenarios

Just swap out Rio for Copenhagen and change the date to now..... :? 8-)

O and 2C degree rise already here.

So that one's baked in.

3C on the way within less than 10 years now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   8:25:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1438. To: A K A Stone, All (#1437)

#368. To: All (#367)

We've passed this point....;}

1C – Vital for low-lying island states but virtually impossible

The Arctic sea ice is already disappearing and, after a 1C global average temperature rise, it would disappear for good in the summer months. Heatwaves and forest fires will become more common in the sub-tropics – worst-hit will be the Mediterranean region, southern Africa, Australia and south-west United States. Most of the world's corals will die, including the Great Barrier Reef.

062112

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   8:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1439. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And as of

062112....

we've now passed this one.....

2C – The temperature limit the scientists want

The heatwaves seen in Europe during 2003, which killed tens of thousands of people, will come back every year with a 2C global average temperature rise. Southern England will regularly see temperatures around 40C in summer. The Amazon turns into desert and grasslands, while increasing CO2 levels in the atmosphere make the world's oceans too acidic for remaining coral reefs and thousands of other marine lifeforms. More than 60 million people, mainly in Africa, would be exposed to higher rates of malaria.

You are here.

Greece:

Strike leader George Sifonios with fellow workers at the gates of the Elliniki Halyvourgia steelworks, which was shut down after they refused to accept a 40% pay cut. Photograph: Andy Hall for the Guardian

It's hot, pushing 40C, so the men are mostly hugging the deep pools of shade that are now all that's offered them by the factory where they used to work. They're sitting on cheap plastic garden chairs, drinking iced water and coffee and playing backgammon.

Britain braced for hottest day of the year

Temperatures in London and south-east expected to reach high of 29C and sunshine to continue into the weekend

* guardian.co.uk, Thursday 24 May 2012 06.03 EDT

And then, after the Drought.....

# Flooding hits northern England after torrential rain

BBC News‎ - 4 days ago Large parts of northern England are flooded, with up to 500 properties affected, after a month's worth of rain fell in a day, the Environment ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   9:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1440. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

#371. To: All (#0)

The West Antarctic ice sheet collapses, the Greenland ice sheet melts and the world's sea level begins to rise by seven metres over the next few hundred years.

We won't see but the next maybe 10 years of this:

3C – Looking increasingly likely

After a 3C global temperature rise, global warming may run out of control and efforts to mitigate it may be in vain. Millions of square kilometres of Amazon rainforest could burn down, releasing carbon from the wood, leaves and soil and thus making the warming even worse, perhaps by another 1.5C.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   9:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1441. To: A K A Stone (#0)

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Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:51 am by mcgowanjm Re: World Markets - URL

Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:51 am by mcgowanjm At 3C, coming within 10 years now:

In southern Africa, Australia and the western US, deserts take over. Billions of people are forced to move from their traditional agricultural lands, in search of scarcer food and water. Around 30-50% less water is available in Africa and around the Mediterranean. In the UK, summers of droughts are followed by winter floods. Sea levels rise to engulf small islands and low-lying areas such as Florida, New York and London. The Gulf Stream, which warms the UK all year round, will decline and changes in weather patterns will lead to higher sea levels at the Atlantic coasts.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   9:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1442. To: A K A Stone (#0)

When you guys get tired of fighting the USAF Academy Fires.....;}

#373. To: All (#372) (Edited)

There's a very good reason scientists don't model a 4C rise....;}

4C - Possible with an extremely weak deal

(And LMFu ckingAO, I just figured what 'extemely weak deal' meant....

Copenhagen was WORSE than an extremely weak deal. OBAMA was hustling from one room to another to force his gruel onto the peasants.

The Latest RIO doc doesn't even have numbers/targets.....;}"

At this stage, the Arctic permafrost enters the danger zone. The methane and carbon dioxide currently locked in the soils will be released into the atmosphere.

At the Arctic itself, the ice cover would disappear permanently, meaning extinction for polar bears and other native species that rely on the presence of ice.

Further melting of Antarctic ice sheets would mean a further 5m rise in the sea level, submerging many island nations.

Italy, Spain, Greece and Turkey become deserts and mid-Europe reaches desert temperatures of almost 50C in summer. Southern England's summer climate could resemble that of modern southern Morocco.

Within 15 years.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   9:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1443. To: All (#1442) (Edited)

#375. To: Robin (#374)

The ONLY thing that 'saves' us.

You can see Day After Tomorrow for the accurate portrayal....;}

Anything North of Missouri.....ice. -----------------------------------

At 15 years from

062112.... :roll: :shock: :twisted:

5C and above – Highly unlikely nightmare scenario

NEW NEWS UKGuardian from 2009....;}

With a 5C rise, global average temperatures would be hotter than for 50m years. The Arctic region sees temperatures rise much higher than average – up to 20C – meaning the entire Arctic is now ice-free all year round. Most of the tropics, sub-tropics and even lower mid-latitudes are too hot to be inhabitable. The sea level rise is now sufficiently rapid that coastal cities across the world are largely abandoned. Above 6C, there would be a danger of "runaway warming", perhaps spurred by release of oceanic methane hydrates.

We'll be gone by then.

Ticks, chiggers, cockroaches and skeeters will be looking for any mammal they can find....most likely no bigger than a raccoon.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   9:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1444. To: All (#1443)

5C and above – Highly unlikely nightmare scenario

NEW NEWS UKGuardian from 2009....;}

And this was BS even then.

Anyone postulating climatechange KNEW that after 400 PPM of CO2 (now in the Arctic;) and a 2C+ rise,

runaway kicks in.

The Durban post-mortem begins | News | Business www.ben-global.com/.../The_Durban_postmortem_begins_9380.asp

Dec 12, 2011 – The world was on track for a 6 degree C increase by 2035 and at current infrastructure rates was using about 80% of emissions needed to stay ...

We're done – Guy McPherson's blog guymcpherson.com/2012/06/were-done/

And because of positive feedbacks, 2 C leads directly and rapidly to 6 C, ...... just to point out another dubious claim, the 6 degree celsius rise by 2035 figure ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   9:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1445. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

Re: World Markets - URL

Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:25 am by mcgowanjm

Start watching for news of:

Fram and Davis Straits Greenland and Ocean Heat Flux:

* Arctic sea ice shrinks to lowest June extent ever observed - Alaska Dispatch

* Atlantic Heat Constrains Arctic Sea Ice Extent - Science Daily (press release)

* Arctic sea ice enters its final decline (2) - Record-Searchlight (blog)

neven1.typepad.com/blog/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   10:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1446. To: mcgowanjm (#1445)

lol

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   10:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1447. To: mcgowanjm (#1445)

ARCUS June Sea Ice Outlook – The ‘New Normal’ Posted on June 21, 2012 by Anthony Watts

From ARCUS: I’m late getting this posted, apologies. WUWT comes in third highest, same position we were last year. My thanks to Helen Wiggins for allowing us to enter again this year. – Anthony

With 19 responses for the Pan-Arctic Outlook (plus 6 regional Outlook contributions), the June Sea Ice Outlook projects a September 2012 arctic sea extent median value of 4.4 million square kilometers, with quartiles of 4.3 and 4.7 million square kilometers (Figure 1). This compares to observed September values of 4.6 in 2011, 4.9 in 2010, and 5.4 in 2009. Both the 2012 quartile values and the range (4.1 to 4.9) are quite narrow. The 2012 June Outlook differs from all previous Outlooks in that there are no projections of extent greater than 5.0. It is always important to note for context that all 2012 estimates are well below the 1979–2007 September mean of 6.7 million square kilometers.

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Figure 1. Distribution of individual Pan-Arctic Outlook values (June Report) for September 2012 sea ice extent.

Download High Resolution Version of Figure 1.

Individual responses are based on a range of methods: statistical, numerical models, comparison with previous rates of sea ice loss, composites of several approaches, estimates based on various non-sea ice datasets and trends, and subjective information. The consensus is for a continued downward trend of September sea ice. It seems that the time may have come to declare that the arctic sea ice has in fact reached a “New Normal.” The physical justification for this statement is based primarily on the loss of old, thick sea ice and the increased mobility of sea ice. An expanded discussion of sea ice age and thickness is included in this month’s full report, which includes new sea ice thickness data from NASA “IceBridge” aircraft flights in March–April 2012.

Credit for Sea Ice Outlook Report: Arctic Research Consortium of the US (ARCUS)

The Sea Ice Outlook is organized by the Study of Environmental Arctic Change (SEARCH) and the Arctic Research Consortium of the U.S. (ARCUS), with volunteer efforts of Outlook contributors. Funding is provided by the National Science Foundation (NSF) and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   11:15:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1448. To: All (#1447)

wattsupwiththat.com/2012/...e-outlook-the-new-normal/

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   11:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1449. To: SJN (#1448)

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/21/arcus-june-sea-ice-outlook-the-new-normal/

Exucse me, SJN, while I post this:

"Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:43 am by mcgowanjm Now let's see...2005...May...2005....

O YEAH.....

PO..... :twisted:

the CFTC notes, as it produly announces an epic wristslap of $200 million for Barclays Bank: "The Order finds that Barclays attempted to manipulate and made false reports concerning two global benchmark interest rates, LIBOR and Euribor, on numerous occasions and sometimes on a daily basis over a four-year period, commencing as early as 2005." Surely this massive fine will teach them to never do it again, until tomorrow at least, when the British Banker Association once again finds 3 month USD liEbor to be... unchanged. In other news, who would have thought that the fringe "conspiracy" brigade was right all along once again.

062112

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   11:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1450. To: SJN (#1448) (Edited)

HAd to take care of some stuff...

Now where was I...

O YEAH....Notice how you Never see Israeli's Anywhere near Climate Change?

You can't turn on the telly w/o seeing one talking Finance/Military/Gov't Policy...

but not. one. Israeli.

No person, site, paper.

'O no, my little putz, that's for the goyim', eh?

I thought 'Wattsup' had folded their tent.

You know, after Heartland had been found out.

That the Koch Bros/Exxon had been funding them.

And wasn't one of the above funding 'Watts'?

So Watts is funded by Heartland. Heartland is funded by ther Koch Bros/XOM. Koch Bros/XOm get Fed subsidies.

While ALL of the Above describe Dirty Fu ckin' Hippies as terr'rists.

How convenient.

6C degree rise baked in. By 2035.

Arctic permanently changed.

Not since 15 million years ago.

Or 6000, whichever religion your are.

And speaking of Fundies, shouldn't you guys be helpin' the USAF (that HotBed of zioFundyism;) fight those fires?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   12:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1451. To: mcgowanjm (#1450)

Did you bother with the source links in the article?

It's too easy to brush aside with all of the cp crap to use as cover, isn't it?

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   12:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1452. To: SJN, A K A Stone (#0)

#1. To: Robin (#0) (Edited)

Remember global warming is a myth......

When a segment of the population has adopted a world view that denies science and tells them that global warming is a myth or a whacky scientist conspiracy to destroy capitalism and then the real world not the talk radio world catches up to them there is shock and denial still. These are conditions we have not seen before and to deny that the climate is changing is to deny reality as it burns around you.

Seriously, what happened to the GOP? It used to be the party of people who liked reading Latin and going to the Opera. Now the GOP has become the party where the members would rather watch a rerun of "Hee Haw" than Masterpiece Theater.

Destro posted on 2012-06-27 10:29:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #2. To: Destro (#1)

And although Greenland’s ice sheets used to get new blankets of snow year-round, Box reports “there’s been little summertime snowfall over the ice sheets since about 2006.” With the Arctic a potent driver of climate across the globe, change at the top of the world will have repercussions elsewhere. Altered wind patterns appear to be one of the earliest symptoms, Richter-Menge says. Over the past several winters, she notes, “we’ve seen where the cold Arctic air isn’t staying in the Arctic any more, but breaking out to head south” into temperate regions. Meanwhile, the more southerly air it’s displacing has been drawn northward, leading to unusually warm Arctic winters. The report’s big take-home message, she says: “These changes represent a persistent condition” — with consequences far beyond the Arctic. "

Significant Sea Level Rise in a 2-Degree Warming World

* Jun 25, 2012

The study is the first to give a comprehensive projection for this long perspective, based on observed sea-level rise over the past millennium, as well as on scenarios for future greenhouse-gas emissions.

"Sea-level rise is a hard to quantify, yet critical risk of climate change," says Michiel Schaeffer of Climate Analytics and Wageningen University, lead author of the study. "Due to the long time it takes for the world's ice and water masses to react to global warming, our emissions today determine sea levels for centuries to come."

eponline.com/articles/201...degree-warming-world.aspx

We're at a 2C Degree rise now....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-27 12:29:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #3. To: All (#2) (Edited)

Copenhagen climate summit: Five possible scenarios for our future ... www.guardian.co.uk/.../2009/dec/.../copenhagen-five-climate-scenari...

Dec 18, 2009 – ... region, southern Africa, Australia and south-west United States. ... A third of the world's species will become extinct as the 2C rise changes their habitats too ... Millions of square kilometres of Amazon rainforest could burn down, ... 1.5C.

In southern Africa, Australia and the western US, deserts take over.

The Amazon has now become an Emitter of CO2.

Formerly one of the last great Sinks.....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   12:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1453. To: mcgowanjm (#1450)

wattsupwiththat.com/2012/...es-on-the-heartland-leak/

UPDATE: 11:45AM -The press release has been added below. One of the key documents is a fabrication

UPDATE2: 2:30PM The BBC’s Richard Black slimes me, without so much as asking me a single question (he has my email, I’ve corresponded with him previously) or even understanding what the project is about Hint: Richard, it’s about HIGHS and LOWS, not trends. No journalistic integrity with this one. – Anthony

I’m surprised at the number of articles out there on this where journalists have not bothered to ask me for a statement, but rather rely on their own opinion. To date, only Suzanne Goldenberg of the Guardian has asked for a statement, and she used very little of it in her article. Her colleague, Leo Hickman asked me no questions at all for his article, but instead relied on a comment I sent to Bishop Hill. So much for journalism. (Update: In response to Hickman, Lucia asks What’s horrible about this?)

(Update: 10:45AM Seth Borenstein of the AP has contacted me and I note that has waited until he can get some kind of confirmation that these documents are real. The Heartland press release is something he’s waiting for. Contacting involved parties is the right way to investigate this story.)

Here’s the query from Goldenberg:

Name: Suzanne Goldenberg Email: suzanne.goldenberg@xxx.xxx Website: www.guardian.co.uk Message: Hello, I am seeking comment on the leak of the Heartland documents by Desmogblog which appear to suggest you are funded by them. Is this accurate? Thanks

MY REPLY:

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Heartland simply helped me find a donor for funding a special project having to do with presenting some new NOAA surface data in a public friendly graphical form, something NOAA themselves is not doing, but should be. I approached them in the fall of 2011 asking for help, on this project not the other way around.

They do not regularly fund me nor my WUWT website, I take no salary from them of any kind.

It is simply for this special project requiring specialized servers, ingest systems, and plotting systems. They also don’t tell me what the project should look like, I came up with the idea and the design. The NOAA data will be displayed without any adjustments to allow easy side-by-side comparisons of stations, plus other graphical representations output 24/7/365. Doing this requires programming, system design, and bandwidth, which isn’t free and I could not do on my own. Compare the funding I asked for initially to get it started to the millions some other outfits (such as CRU) get in the UK for studies that then end up as a science paper behind a publishers paywall, making the public pay again. My project will be a free public service when finished.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Description from the same (Heartland) documents: Weather Stations Project Every few months, weathermen report that a temperature record – either high or low – has been broken somewhere in the U.S. This is not surprising, since weather is highly variable and reliable instrument records date back less than 100 years old. Regrettably, news of these broken records is often used by environmental extremists as evidence that human emissions are causing either global warming or the more ambiguous “climate change.”

Anthony Watts, a meteorologist who hosts WattsUpwithThat.com, one of the most popular and influential science blogs in the world, has documented that many of the temperature stations relied on by weathermen are compromised by heat radiating from nearby buildings, machines, or paved surfaces. It is not uncommon for these stations to over-state temperatures by 3 or 4 degrees or more, enough to set spurious records. Because of Watts’ past work exposing flaws in the current network of temperature stations (work that The Heartland Institute supported and promoted), the National Aeronautics and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), the government agency responsible for maintaining temperature stations in the U.S., has designated a new network of higher-quality temperature stations that meet its citing specifications. Unfortunately, NOAA doesn’t widely publicize data from this new network, and puts raw data in spreadsheets buried on one of its Web sites.

Anthony Watts proposes to create a new Web site devoted to accessing the new temperature data from NOAA’s web site and converting them into easy-to-understand graphs that can be easily found and understood by weathermen and the general interested public. Watts has deep expertise in Web site design generally and is well-known and highly regarded by weathermen and meteorologists everywhere. The new site will be promoted heavily at WattsUpwithThat.com. Heartland has agreed to help Anthony raise $88,000 for the project in 2011. The Anonymous Donor has already pledged $44,000. We’ll seek to raise the balance.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DeSmog, as part of their public relations for hire methodology to demonize skeptics, will of course try to find nefarious motives for this project. But there simply are none here. It’s something that needs doing because NOAA hasn’t made this new data available in a user friendly visual format. For example, here’s a private company website that tracks highs and low records using NOAA data: mapcenter.hamweather.com/records/yesterday/us.html

NOAA doesn’t make any kind of presentation like that either, which is why such things are often done by private ventures.

================================================================

That above is what I sent to the Guardian, and also in a comment to Bishop Hill.

The reaction has been interesting, particularly since the David-Goliath nature of funding is laid bare here. For example, Al Gore says he started a 300 million dollar advertising campaign. The Daily Bayonet sums it up pretty well:

Hippies hate Heartland « The Daily Bayonet

What the Heartland document show is how badly warmists have been beaten by those with a fraction of the resources they’ve enjoyed.

Al Gore spent $300 million advertising the global warming hoax. Greenpeace, the WWF, the Sierra Club, The Natural Resources Defense Council, NASA, NOAA, the UN and nation states have collectively poured billions into climate research, alternative energies and propaganda, supported along the way by most of the broadcast and print media.

Yet they’ve been thwarted by a few honest scientists, a number of blogs and a small pile of cash from Heartland.

Here’s a clue for DeSmog, Joe Romm and other warmists enjoying a little schadenfreude today. It’s not the money that’s beating you, it’s the message.

Your climate fear-mongering backfired. You cried wolf so often the villagers stopped listening. Then Climategate I & II gave the world a peek behind the curtain into the shady practices, petty-feuding and data-manipulation that seems to pass for routine in climate ‘science’.

So enjoy the moment, warmists, because what this episode really demonstrates to the world is how little money was needed to bring the greatest scam in history to its knees. That’s not something I’d think you’d want to advertise, but knock yourselves out. It’s what you do best.

I see none of the same people at the Guardian or the blogs complaining about this:

Dr. James Hansen’s growing financial scandal, now over a million dollars of outside income

NASA records released to resolve litigation filed by the American Tradition Institute reveal that Dr. James E. Hansen, an astronomer, received approximately $1.6 million in outside, direct cash income in the past five years for work related to — and, according to his benefactors, often expressly for — his public service as a global warming activist within NASA. This does not include six-figure income over that period in travel expenses to fly around the world to receive money from outside interests. As specifically detailed below, Hansen failed to report tens of thousands of dollars in global travel provided to him by outside parties — including to London, Paris, Rome, Oslo, Tokyo, the Austrian Alps, Bilbao, California, Australia and elsewhere, often business or first-class and also often paying for his wife as well — to receive honoraria to speak about the topic of his taxpayer-funded employment, or get cash awards for his activism and even for his past testimony and other work for NASA.

(Update: Dr. Hansen responds here)

Or the NGO’s and their budgets (thanks Tom Nelson) With tiny budgets like $310 million, $100 million, and $95 million respectively, how can lovable underdogs like Greenpeace, Sierra Club, and NRDC *ever* hope to compete with mighty Heartland’s $6.5 million? Heartland Institute budget and strategy revealed | Deep Climate

Heartland is projecting a boost in revenues from $4.6 million in 2011, to $7.7 million in 2012. That will enable an operating budget of $6.5 million, as well as topping up the fund balance a further $1.2 million.

[Sept 2011]: Greenpeace Environmental Group Turns 40

Greenpeace International, based in Amsterdam, now has offices in more than 40 countries and claims some 2.8 million supporters. Its 1,200-strong staff ranges from “direct action” activists to scientific researchers. Last year, its budget reached $310 million.

[Nov 2011]: Sierra Club Leader Will Step Down – NYTimes.com

He said the Sierra Club had just approved the organization’s largest annual budget ever, about $100 million for 2012, up from $88 million this year.

[Oct 2011]: Do green groups need to get religion?

That’s Peter Lehner talking. Peter, a 52-year-old environmental lawyer, is executive director of the Natural Resources Defense Council, one of America’s most important environmental groups. The NRDC has a $95 million budget, about 400 employees and about 1.3 million members. They’re big and they represent a lot of people.

But me and my little temperature web project to provide a public service are the real baddies here apparently. The dichotomy is stunning.

Some additional added notes:

“Because of Watts’ past work exposing flaws in the current network of temperature stations (work that The Heartland Institute supported and promoted), the National Aeronautics and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), the government agency responsible for maintaining temperature stations in the U.S., has designated a new network of higher-quality temperature stations that meet its citing specifications.”

For the record, and as previously cited on WUWT, NCDC started on the new network in 2003 www.ncdc.noaa.gov/crn/annual-reports.html Heartland may have confused the Climate Reference Network with the updated COOP/USHCN modernization network which did indeed start after my surfacestations project: What the modernized USHCN will look like (April 29, 2008)

They then asked for 100 million to update it NOAA/NCDC – USHCN is broken please send 100 million dollars (Sept 21, 2010)

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PRESS RELEASE 11:45 AM – source heartland.org/press-relea...stolen-and-fake-documents

FEBRUARY 15, 2012 – The following statement from The Heartland Institute – a free-market think tank – may be used for attribution. For more information, contact Communications Director Jim Lakely at jlakely@heartland.org and 312/377-4000.

Yesterday afternoon, two advocacy groups posted online several documents they claimed were The Heartland Institute’s 2012 budget, fundraising, and strategy plans. Some of these documents were stolen from Heartland, at least one is a fake, and some may have been altered.

The stolen documents appear to have been written by Heartland’s president for a board meeting that took place on January 17. He was traveling at the time this story broke yesterday afternoon and still has not had the opportunity to read them all to see if they were altered. Therefore, the authenticity of those documents has not been confirmed.

Since then, the documents have been widely reposted on the Internet, again with no effort to confirm their authenticity.

One document, titled “Confidential Memo: 2012 Heartland Climate Strategy,” is a total fake apparently intended to defame and discredit The Heartland Institute. It was not written by anyone associated with The Heartland Institute. It does not express Heartland’s goals, plans, or tactics. It contains several obvious and gross misstatements of fact.

We respectfully ask all activists, bloggers, and other journalists to immediately remove all of these documents and any quotations taken from them, especially the fake “climate strategy” memo and any quotations from the same, from their blogs, Web sites, and publications, and to publish retractions.

The individuals who have commented so far on these documents did not wait for Heartland to confirm or deny the authenticity of the documents. We believe their actions constitute civil and possibly criminal offenses for which we plan to pursue charges and collect payment for damages, including damages to our reputation. We ask them in particular to immediately remove these documents and all statements about them from the blogs, Web sites, and publications, and to publish retractions.

How did this happen? The stolen documents were obtained by an unknown person who fraudulently assumed the identity of a Heartland board member and persuaded a staff member here to “re-send” board materials to a new email address. Identity theft and computer fraud are criminal offenses subject to imprisonment. We intend to find this person and see him or her put in prison for these crimes.

Apologies: The Heartland Institute apologizes to the donors whose identities were revealed by this theft. We promise anonymity to many of our donors, and we realize that the major reason these documents were stolen and faked was to make it more difficult for donors to support our work. We also apologize to Heartland staff, directors, and our allies in the fight to bring sound science to the global warming debate, who have had their privacy violated and their integrity impugned.

Lessons: Disagreement over the causes, consequences, and best policy responses to climate change runs deep. We understand that.

But honest disagreement should never be used to justify the criminal acts and fraud that occurred in the past 24 hours. As a matter of common decency and journalistic ethics, we ask everyone in the climate change debate to sit back and think about what just happened.

Those persons who posted these documents and wrote about them before we had a chance to comment on their authenticity should be ashamed of their deeds, and their bad behavior should be taken into account when judging their credibility now and in the future.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   12:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1454. To: SJN (#1447)

Don't know why that comforts you.

Here's a better way to look at it....

Melt Accelerating.

So by September you're looking at

a plus 1600 GigaTon melt.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   12:39:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1455. To: All (#1453)

The stolen documents were obtained by an unknown person

Not anymore! roflmao

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   12:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1456. To: mcgowanjm (#1454)

You are aware are you not that there is always a summer sea ice melt.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   12:47:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1457. To: SJN (#1456)

#1456. To: mcgowanjm (#1454)

You are aware are you not that there is always a summer sea ice melt.

SJN

Early cartographers were unsure whether to draw the region around the North Pole as land (as in Johannes Ruysch's map of 1507, or Gerardus Mercator's map of 1595) or water (as with Martin Waldseemüller's world map of 1507). The fervent desire of European merchants for a northern passage to "Cathay" (China) caused water to win out, and by 1723 mapmakers such as Johann Homann featured an extensive "Oceanus Septentrionalis" at the northern edge of their charts.

The few expeditions to penetrate much beyond the Arctic Circle in this era added only small islands, such as Novaya Zemlya (11th century) and Spitsbergen (1596), though since these were often surrounded by pack-ice their northern limits were not so clear. The makers of navigational charts, more conservative than some of the more fanciful cartographers, tended to leave the region blank, with only fragments of known coastline sketched in.

This lack of knowledge of what lay north of the shifting barrier of ice gave rise to a number of conjectures. In England and other European nations, the myth of an "Open Polar Sea" was persistent. John Barrow, long time Second Secretary of the British Admiralty, promoted exploration of the region from 1818 to 1845 in search of this."

-wiki

Yeah. Everybody went swimming in the Arctic in Summer to escape the heat.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   12:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1458. To: SJN, mcgowanjm (#1455)

One of the key documents is a fabrication...

One??

There are so many it'd make McGaia's head spin. Then again he DOES need a exorcism ;-)

Jimmy's not so much interested in the TRUTH you've posted as much as catapulting the fake Climatologists' agenda and fake data claims and lies. Moreover, he dovetails this promotion with a barbaric sister-agenda that retards and cuts-off progress for Western Civilization and culls the vast population of the world.

IOW, Jimmy's reason for living is promoting his evil Religion of Lies, Hate, and Death. Odd psychopathy and value system, these Tree-Hugging Earth-Firsters who value dolphins and trees over human life.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-27   12:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1459. To: mcgowanjm (#1454)

Melt Accelerating.

So by September you're looking at...

No sh*t!!

Really? Ice melts over the summer in the Northern hemisphere??

Wow....

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-27   12:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1460. To: mcgowanjm (#1457)

We don’t have enough long-term data to say what is usual with regard to ice coverage in the arctic or understand the full extent of its natural variation.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   13:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1461. To: SJN (#1455)

The stolen documents were obtained by an unknown person

Not anymore! roflmao

Better hurry over to the USAF Academy

That Hot bed of Fundy's....;}

They need your help.

A degree by degree explanation of what will happen when the earth ... globalwarming.berrens.nl/globalwarming.htm

It has been calculated that a one-degree increase would eliminate fresh water from a .... Crops will bake in the fields, and forests will die off and burn. ... When temperatures were last between 1 and 2C higher than they are now, 125000 years ...

we're there.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1462. To: Liberator (#1458)

One of the key documents is a fabrication...

One??

All blown away....;}

You guys need to keep up.

And Jerusalem is Not the Center of the Universe,

and the Earth revolves around the Sun....;}

News for Fire epic proportions news

Waldo Canyon fire reaches 'epic proportions' Christian Science Monitor‎ - 1 hour ago

Waldo Canyon fire: Evacuations continued near Colorado Springs Wednesday as the Waldo Canyon fire is only five percent contained, and ...

Tropical Storm Debby rains misery on flooded Florida - Yahoo! News news.yahoo.com/debby-thre...ods-tornadoes-florida-040

18 hours ago – News: TALLAHASSEE, Florida (Reuters) - Tropical Storm Debby ... worst of the worst of hurricanes but never epic flooding of this proportion.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1463. To: mcgowanjm (#1461)

The USAF a "hot bed of Fundy's"?!! roflmao. You're quantitatively insane.

"We are in the middle of the most rapid change in the earth’s magnetic field in recorded history. Most notably in the Arctic. We know from the fossil records that major climate change and species extinction are related to magnetic field changes.

The Antarctic is cooling, not warming as the south magnetic pole moves away from the geographic pole. The Arctic is warming as the magnetic pole moves towards the geographic pole. CO2 cannot explain this. Charged particles enter the earth’s atmosphere from the sun in fantastic quantities at the magnetic poles. As the magnetic poles move, so does the location of entry of these particles.

Completely ignored by the high priests of science in their quest to solve society’s problems through human sacrifice. Be it virgins or carbon tax, the solution is always the same, as are the result. More suffering and no benefit to anyone except the priests."

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   13:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1464. To: mcgowanjm (#1462)

oooooohhhhh booogedy boogy, there's weather out there.

Get under your beds and quiver in fear!

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   13:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1465. To: Liberator (#1459)

(1596), though since these were often surrounded by pack-ice their northern limits were not so clear.

That's Mister Jimmie to you,

and you're not reading.

Kinda like you Fundy's aren't thinkin'.....;}

"(1596), though since these were often surrounded by pack-ice their northern limits were not so clear. "

See, Libby, here's the problem.

Human Civilization Only exists in the last 12 000 years,

6000 if you're a Fundy.

And the ONLY thing Human Civilization has known in those 12 000 years is....wait for it....

the Arctic is ALWAYS covered in thick PERM ICE....

NewNews:

www.eurekalert.org/pub_re...012-06/uoma-acm061512.php

"In order to quantify the climate differences associated with the variable interglacial intensities, four warm phases were investigated in detail: the two youngest, "normal" interglacials,

(ATTN FUNDY'S:)

**************** since 12,000 years *****************

and about 125,000 years ago, and two of the "super" interglacials, about 400,000 and about 1.1 million years ago. According to pollen-based climate reconstructions, summer temperatures and annual precipitation during the super interglacials

***********were about 4 to 5 degrees C warmer***************

(Where we'll be in 15 years;)

and about 12 inches (300 mm) wetter than during normal interglacials. The super interglacial climates suggest that it's virtually impossible for the Greenland's ice sheet to have existed in its present form at those times.

Simulations using a state-of-the-art climate model show that the high temperature and precipitation during the super interglacials cannot be explained by Earth´s orbital parameters or variations in atmospheric greenhouse gases alone, which geologists typically see driving the glacial/interglacial pattern during ice ages.

This suggests additional climate feedbacks are at work. The scientists suspect the trigger for intense interglacials might be in Antarctica. Earlier work by the international ANDRILL program discovered recurring intervals when the West Antarctic Ice Sheet melted. The current study shows that some of these events match remarkably well with the super interglacials in the Arctic."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1466. To: SJN (#1464)

oooooohhhhh booogedy boogy, there's weather out there.

Get under your beds and quiver in fear!

so, you agree.

thanx, in your back handed way.

No. you don't need to be afraid.

Just start partying like there's no tomorrow....

O Wait....that's what you've been doin....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1467. To: SJN (#1463)

The Antarctic is cooling

No.

Twitter / AntarcticaNews: CO2 hits 400 ppm in Arctic twitter.com/AntarcticaNews/status/208646137400393730

Jun 1, 2012 – CO2 hits 400 ppm in Arctic, with Antarctic not lagging too far behind - Antarctic Sun goo.gl/fb/mW7nm. Reply; RetweetedRetweet; Delete ...

400 ppm is the 2C degree rise Threshold.

We're there....next.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:18:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1468. To: SJN (#1463)

high priests of science

Science does not have high priests.

You're confused.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1469. To: SJN (#1463)

their quest to solve society’s problems through human sacrifice.

Religion Cannot Will not alleviate human suffering.

Which is why it will disappear faster than Arctic ice....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1470. To: SJN (#1463)

More suffering and no benefit to anyone except the priests."

And could Not have put it better.

The Priests, the Warriors, the Acquisitors

All together in their Top .1% enclaves, sheltered for a little while longer from the storm....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1471. To: SJN (#1460)

We don’t have enough long-term data to say what is usual with regard to ice coverage in the arctic or understand the full extent of its natural variation.

Again:

NEW NEWS:

Public release date: 21-Jun-2012 [ Print | E-mail | Share Share ] [ Close Window ]

Contact: Janet Lathrop jlathrop@admin.umass.edu 413-545-0444

University of Massachusetts at Amherst Arctic climate more vulnerable than thought, maybe linked to Antarctic ice-sheet behavior

DARN THOSE SCIENTIST TO HADES....;}

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_re...012-06/uoma-acm061512.php

COLOGNE, Germany; AMHERST, MA, USA; MAGADAN, Russia. -- First analyses of the longest sediment core ever collected on land in the terrestrial Arctic, published this week in Science, provide documentation that intense warm intervals, warmer than scientists thought possible, occurred there over the past 2.8 million years. First analyses of the longest sediment core ever collected on land in the terrestrial Arctic provide documentation that intense warm intervals, warmer than scientists thought possible, occurred there over the past 2.8 million years

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1472. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#385. To: Robin, All (#0)

Does the World flip to an Ice Age with this degree of Warm Up?

Again, we're at 2C Degree over 1760 Baseline now.

400 PPM at the Arctic.

What to expect as we travel thru to a 6CDegree rise by 2035:

A degree by degree explanation of what will happen when the earth warms

Even if greenhouse emissions stopped overnight the concentrations already in the atmosphere would still mean a global rise of between 0.5 and 1C. A shift of a single degree is barely perceptible to human skin, but it’s not human skin we’re talking about. It’s the planet; and an average increase of one degree across its entire surface means huge changes in climatic extremes.

Six thousand years ago, when the world was one degree warmer than it is now, the American agricultural heartland around Nebraska was desert. It suffered a short reprise during the dust- bowl years of the 1930s, when the topsoil blew away and hundreds of thousands of refugees trailed through the dust to an uncertain welcome further west. The effect of one-degree warming, therefore, requires no great feat of imagination.

“The western United States once again could suffer perennial droughts, far worse than the 1930s. Deserts will reappear particularly in Nebraska, but also in eastern Montana, Wyoming and Arizona, northern Texas and Oklahoma. As dust and sandstorms turn day into night across thousands of miles of former prairie, farmsteads, roads and even entire towns will be engulfed by sand.”

What’s bad for America will be worse for poorer countries closer to the equator.

In order to quantify the climate differences associated with the variable interglacial intensities, four warm phases were investigated in detail: the two youngest, "normal" interglacials, since 12,000 years and about 125,000 years ago, and two of the "super" interglacials, about 400,000 and about 1.1 million years ago. According to pollen-based climate reconstructions, summer temperatures and annual precipitation during the super interglacials were about 4 to 5 degrees C warmer and about 12 inches (300 mm) wetter than during normal interglacials. The super interglacial climates suggest that it's virtually impossible for the Greenland's ice sheet to have existed in its present form at those times.

about 4 to 5 degrees C warmer

Does the World flip to an Ice Age at this Number?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1473. To: SJN, All (#1460) (Edited)

We don’t have enough long-term data to say what is usual with regard to ice coverage in the arctic or understand the full extent of its natural variation.

According to pollen-based climate reconstructions, summer temperatures and annual precipitation during the super interglacials were about 4 to 5 degrees C warmer and about 12 inches (300 mm) wetter than during normal interglacials. The super interglacial climates suggest that it's virtually impossible for the Greenland's ice sheet to have existed in its present form at those times.

Simulations using a state-of-the-art climate model show that the high temperature and precipitation

during the super interglacials cannot be explained by Earth´s orbital parameters or variations in atmospheric greenhouse gases alone,

************which geologists typically see driving the glacial/interglacial pattern during ice ages. This suggests additional climate feedbacks are at work. **************************

The scientists suspect the trigger for intense interglacials might be in Antarctica.

Earlier work by the international ANDRILL program discovered recurring intervals when the West Antarctic Ice Sheet melted. The current study shows that some of these events match remarkably well with the super interglacials in the Arctic.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   13:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1474. To: mcgowanjm (#1465)

See, Libby, here's the problem.

Human Civilization Only exists in the last 12 000 years,

6000 if you're a Fundy.

And the ONLY thing Human Civilization has known in those 12 000 years is....wait for it....

the Arctic is ALWAYS covered in thick PERM ICE....

NewNews:

www.eurekalert.org/pub_re...012-06/uoma-acm061512.php

You're getting closer to answer my questions, but NO cigar nearly yet, Jimbo...

Firstly, your link "proves" Zilch. Secondly, the scientific community has so damaged their cred and rep that ANY claims MUST be iron-clad. Difficult to achieve at this point.

Secondly, your timeline is NOT provable because the dating methods are faulty.

The super interglacial climates suggest that it's virtually impossible for the Greenland's ice sheet to have existed in its present form at those times....

Keywords: "SUGGEST". And "Virtually".

Simulations using a state-of-the-art climate model show that the high temperature and precipitation during the super interglacials cannot be explained by Earth´s orbital parameters or variations in atmospheric greenhouse gases alone, which geologists typically see driving the glacial/interglacial pattern during ice ages.

The inexplicable CAN'T be explained by a million and one missing factors. no way, no how. How is that a newsflash or scientific revelation?

NO "state-of-art" model can predict future climatology nor simulate past cataclysmic events. The dynamics within the planet Earth (aka Gaia) are NOT stable - have NEVER been.

This suggests additional climate feedbacks are at work.

No frickin' kidding.

The scientists suspect the trigger for intense interglacials might be in Antarctica. Earlier work by the international ANDRILL program discovered recurring intervals when the West Antarctic Ice Sheet melted. The current study shows that some of these events match remarkably well with the super interglacials in the Arctic."

Again - scientists "suspect"?? I suspect they're grasping at straws. AS USUAL. Then trying to pawn it off as probable/most likely/factual. Just like the fallacious claim of Ape-to-Man "evolution" as though it were indeed fact... for HOW MANY years did they pull off this charade, Jimmy?

Wrap THIS around your head:

Why are thousands of dinosaur bones found nearly at earth's surface....and MANY found clumped TOGETHER as though some recent (yes RECENT) event washed them away en masse. Supposedly they existed *millions* of years ago. Why are the bones preserved so well? Why are they found close to the earth's surface and clumped together? Why aren't they found thousands of feet below the surface, deteriorated beyond recognition?

Answer:

The. Great. Flood.

Genesis tells us that during Noah's Great Flood waters gushed FROM WITHIN the earth - as well of course as the constant, prodigious volume of rain. But the biggest factor is the release of waters from WITHIN THE EARTH'S CRUST and volcanic mayhem. Might that event have wreaked havoc on the planet's axis as well and the change in climate AND elimination of certain animals (dinosaurs) and plants while changing the world's geography ever since?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-27   13:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1475. To: mcgowanjm (#1435)

.

"MD;

LOL!

That's all that you have, and all that you know how to do, isn't jimma boy?

LOL!

What a WEAK assed little cunt you are jimma boy.

Every breath you take fucks with America and all decent AMERICAS, you foul little cunt.

All you are is the poster child for libTURD "Hate America FIRST!" SCUM.

You DESPISE the US CONSTITUTION and the AMERICAN PEOPLE. You even despise your own brother who died a hero's death at ANZIO, you even HATE your mother and her love of your own brother.

Yep.

YOU ARE SCUM jimma boy.

YOU ARE SCUM jimma BOY. (with my sincere apologies to SCUM which suffers in the comparison).

--------------------

jimma boy Hate America FIRST! SCUM;

"exactly.

Signed,

Mister Jimmie....;}"

-------------

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-27   15:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1476. To: mcgowanjm (#1436)

WACO RECORD HEAT

a high of 107 at 458pm tied the 32 year old (1980) daily record.

Yes it is Texas and it sure does get hot here.

So if the record was set in 1980 and just tied yesterday does that mean there was a global cooling period from 1981-2011?

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-27   15:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1477. To: mcgowanjm (#1473)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-27   16:19:57 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1478. To: mcgowanjm, Liberator, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#1436)

Jim here is one for your "revolution."

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-27   16:52:52 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1479. To: redleghunter, mcgowanjm, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#1478) (Edited)

Jim here is one for your "revolution."

Jimmy....you reading this? It's pretty good. Is this your Utopia?

A Commie/Socialist/Progressive rebellion one and all. You're only a tool...until you're no longer a serviceable useful tool.

And notice how the Vatican is ALWAYS involved. ALWAYS.

The day the Pope kissed (KISSED!) the Koran should have been the day all devoted Catholic Christians got the memo about who and what Pope and Vatican really are and stopped deceiving themselves.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-27   17:25:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1480. To: redleghunter (#1477)

I really like this one....

Chick and his crew are really great at simplifying expectations, events and Scripture - while being educational/entertaining/humorous/provocative.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-27   17:28:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1481. To: redleghunter (#1478)

That was a good one.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   18:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1482. To: Liberator (#1479)

The day the Pope kissed (KISSED!) the Koran should have been the day all devoted Catholic Christians got the memo about who and what Pope and Vatican really are and stopped deceiving themselves.

Amen to that brother.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-27   18:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1483. To: Liberator (#1479)

The day the Pope kissed (KISSED!) the Koran should have been the day all devoted Catholic Christians got the memo about who and what Pope and Vatican really are and stopped deceiving themselves.

Are you sure he isn't spitting on it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-28   5:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1484. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Good Morning,

It's over.

You can stop donating,

protesting,

praying,

criticizing,

or

whatever, besides doing as little as possible to cover your footprint on this planet.

We've got the facts.

The Top 1% for well over 35 years have gone out of their way to lie about what's happening.

Good luck with ALL of that Wealth you have.

;}

canadianclimateaction.wor...%93-the-1%C2%BA-cover-up/

scienceblog.com/55149/rem...antarctic-climate-change/

ScienceDaily (June 21, 2012) — Intense warm climate intervals--warmer than scientists thought possible--have occurred in the Arctic over the past 2.8 million years.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   7:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1485. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#1. To: Robin (#0)

News Brief – June 26, 2012 Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Tuesday that Iran’s participation was crucial to the success of a meeting on the escalating conflict in Syria planned by the U.N. Arab league peace envoy Kofi Annan has also indicated he wants Iran to participate in the talks in Geneva this weekend.

News: U.S. to join Syria parley; Iran not asked

AFP

UPI.com‎ - 5 hours ago Iran and Saudi Arabia -- on opposing sides of the Syrian conflict -- were not ... after Moscow dropped its insistence Iran be invited to the gathering, a senior ... In Washington, White House spokesman Jay Carney said, "We ...

are fu cked....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-28 7:38:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: All (#1)

Israel will regret to attack Iran: Russia president Visiting Russia Visiting Russia's President Vladimir Putin (L)meets with his Israeli counterpart Shimon Peres as they meet in Jerusalem, on June 25, 2012. Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:47PM Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned the Israeli regime against the consequences of military aggression against Iran, urging Tel Aviv to think well before doing anything it 'will regret later.'

"Look at what happened to the Americans in Afghanistan and in Iraq. I told US president Barack Obama the same thing," the visiting president said in a meeting with his Israeli counterpart Shimon Peres on Monday.

"Iraq has a pro-Iranian regime after everything that has happened there. These things should be thought out ahead of time before doing something one will regret later," he cautioned."One should not act prematurely."

The next war will only last about 12 hours, the USSA hopes.

Anything after that and the USSA loses.....;}

We'll know in about 6 months.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   7:42:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1486. To: redleghunter (#1478)

It's Mister Jimmie to you.

And you'd better get over to the USAF Academy pronto.

Your Fundy HQ is burning down.

This is what a 2C degree rise in the Planet's Temp means.

Hope you're near Ft Hood.

ALL those tanks now useless.....;}

Texas sets POWER USE RECORD, 3 Strait Days.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   7:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1487. To: All (#1486)

And who's talkin' revolution?

Why?

When the USSA collapses by Xmas.

Like Robert Gates and the USSR.

One minute it's there....and then it's gone like smoke over Colorado Springs....;}

I'm thinkin the Taliban set that fire.

You better get after 'em....LMAO......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   7:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1488. To: redleghunter (#1477)

ScienceDaily (June 21, 2012) — Intense warm climate intervals--warmer than scientists thought possible--have occurred in the Arctic over the past 2.8 million years.

That result comes from the first analyses of the longest sediment cores ever retrieved on land. They were obtained from beneath remote, ice-covered Lake El’gygytgyn (pronounced El’gee-git-gin) (“Lake E”) in the northeastern Russian Arctic.

canadianclimateaction.wor...%93-the-1%C2%BA-cover-up/

With a 2 C degree rise

The SW USSA burns....see USAF Academy for details.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   7:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1489. To: All (#1488)

And here's the bull shite story

John Allen NATO/ISAF/USSA want you to believe:

"Note: Ali Latifi, a freelance journalist based in Doha, was reporting from the scene of a Taliban attack on a hotel in Kabul, Afghanistan last week in which 23 people were killed. He tells the story of the attack through his interaction with Haider, an Afghan who fought against the Soviet invasion but now guards a cell phone tower from threats that include insurgent sabotage. The story is printed below with permission.

By Ali M. Latifi

Kabul, Afghanistan — Had this been any other Friday, Mohammed Haider would have been rushing from his home in Paghman to the cell phone antenna he guards day in and day out.

Any other Friday and the grey-haired Haider would be watching hundreds of cars on their way to picnics in the scenic Qargha lake and by the fountains of Paghman, a town just outside Kabul.

But this wasn’t any other Friday, and Haider, after being kept up all night from gunshots and blasts at the nearby Spozhmai Hotel, headed to his post guarding an Etisalat telecom tower.

There he stood, as he always has, atop a hill overlooking the hotel that went from being the site of a joyful twenty-second birthday party to the scene of the first Taliban attack specifically targeting civilians since the latest round of war erupted in Afghanistan in the autumn of 2001......;}

And here's what happened....

OVer 300 NGO's, 'missionaries', diplomats, afghan interior, and NATO, were shot dead.

Afghan Commander, anonymous, 'I have never seen so much destruction.'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   7:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1490. To: redleghunter (#1478)

You need to really focus on USSA defense now.

They need you bad.

Admiral: US Supplies to Afghanistan Triple in Cost Without Pakistan Route Supply Route Strong, But Pricey by Jason Ditz, June 27, 2012 Print This | Share This

In comments today Vice Admiral Mark Harnitchek, the director of the Defense Logistics Agency, provided some of the most specific details about the costs of the supply lines for the NATO occupation of Afghanistan yet seen by the public.

We're out by Xmas.

And Russia's the Only way out....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   8:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1491. To: Liberator (#1479)

The best Utopia the planet can hope for now is an Ice Age by 2030....;}

Barclays Tumbles as Libor Fine Sparks Lawsuit Speculation By Howard Mustoe - 2012-06-28T11:59:13Z

Barclays Plc (BARC), Britain’s second- largest bank by assets, slid the most in three years after its record fines yesterday for falsifying London interbank offered rate submissions sparked speculation lawsuits will follow.

How does a Federal Reserve Insolvent bank pay a $billion fine?....LMAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   8:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1492. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Post Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:56 am by mcgowanjm

Picasso Moon wrote:Are you trying to convince me that we're facing catastrophic climate change? You can stop, i've been trying to convince people of this for a quarter century. :D

My point is that for the VAST majority, what happens past next week is immaterial, will not lead to action on their part.

And re reading this....

My point is that for the VAST majority, what happens past next week is immaterial, will not lead to action on their part.

There's no action to take.

Except to stop:

Wasting fuel..

Driving cars...

Making humans.

In much less than 10 years now.

110 degrees from Colorado to South Carolina. In June.....we're there.

A 2C degree rise for All to see and feel.... :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   8:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1493. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Of course not, Iran's next after Syria, if not before.

That's the USSA's problem.

Russia's Tartus base in Syria makes a surprise attack on Iran impossible.

Which is what the USSA has finally figured out.

Meanwhile the USSA is having it's ass handed to it in the Afghans with Russia the only way out.

We'll be done with this by Xmas...or 122112....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-28 10:58:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   10:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1494. To: SJN (#1481)

Thanks. The interesting part of Chick tracts is there is always some priest or bishop behind the scenes pulling the strings:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-28   13:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1495. To: mcgowanjm, Liberator (#1486)

And you'd better get over to the USAF Academy pronto.

Your Fundy HQ is burning down.

Interesting you mention that. They threw the "fundies" off campus a few years ago. Interesting now that "hell fire" is coming down on the campus.

Fort Hood is fine.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-28   13:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1496. To: mcgowanjm (#1490)

And Russia's the Only way out....;}

Oops you figured it out. NATO has been, with the help of the Quds force, sneaking in armored divisions through Iran into Afghanistan. That whole drone thing was a cover. So we will go through Russia when the weather is good and make a beeline for Moscow. Nothing can stop us now!

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-28   13:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1497. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, Liberator, SJN (#1488)

With a 2 C degree rise

The SW USSA burns....see USAF Academy for details....

Since you like fire so much, here is some to consider:

Hebrews Chapter 12:

1 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3 For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. 4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. 5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: "My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; 6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives." 7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? 10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. 11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. 12 Therefore strengthen the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees, 13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed. 14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord: 15 looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled; 16 lest there be any fornicator or profane person like Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright. 17 For you know that afterward, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought it diligently with tears. 18 For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest, 19 and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, so that those who heard it begged that the word should not be spoken to them anymore. 20 (For they could not endure what was commanded: "And if so much as a beast touches the mountain, it shall be stoned or shot with an arrow." 21 And so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, "I am exceedingly afraid and trembling.") 22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. 25 See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven, 26 whose voice then shook the earth; but now He has promised, saying, "Yet once more I shake not only the earth, but also heaven." 27 Now this, "Yet once more," indicates the removal of those things that are being shaken, as of things that are made, that the things which cannot be shaken may remain. 28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear. 29 For our God is a consuming fire.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-28   16:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1498. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The organizers of this operation say that Thursday night was chosen specifically because various parties were held inside this hotel and most of its participants were foreign nationals who had the means of affording its expensive food, drinks and entertainment. Among them were workers from the embassies of Britain, Romania, France, Canada and others; personnel of NGOs which have been working in spreading Christianity in our country for the past decade as well as corrupt officials from Kabul’s intelligence agency and Ministries of Interior and Foreign Affairs who have stuffed their pockets with illegal money and spend their lives in debauchee and play with the dignity, honor and pride of this nation. There were 330 such people and their associates present on the night of the attack with lots of alcohol, several prostitutes and some famous singers playing music at the request of the hotel managers.

Participants of Martyrdom operation

One of the leaders from amongst the four Mujahideen (Hayatullah, Sulaiman, Naimatullah and Kamran) who have now reached the high rank of martyrdom said via telephone: When we reached the hotel, there were 4 police standing at the front gate. We proceeded by killed them with silenced pistols then calmly made our way inside, closed the hotel’s main gate and began the separation phase because we were instructed by our elders to avoid harming anyone not associated with the Kabul regime or children or any of the hotel workers. We did as asked to the best of our ability by separating the civilians, assembling them in rooms and instructing them to not leave there rooms during the fighting. On the other hand, all foreign nationals, uniformed hirelings and other puppets of ministries were killed after checking their documentation. After that we started engaging the outside enemy."

shahamat-english.com/inde...catid=3:articles&Itemid=5

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   22:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1499. To: All (#1498)

"The below information is gathered from a worker of the said hotel, a guest businessman and the commander of police check posts. All three of these men state that they have witnessed things which were completely ignored in televisions and radios. They emphasize that foreigners, most of whom were workers of missionary NGOs and western embassies, visited this hotel every night and plenty had arrived especially on this night. The attack happened suddenly and we stood there shocked. We saw that the Mujahid inside were looking for specific targets and were instructing ordinary people to enter rooms and stay there until the fighting is over. Then the fighting began and we do not know what happened until the morning except that the halls were packed with the bodies of dead people. A police commander said on condition of anonymity that more than a hundred people were killed here however we have been told to stay mute about the casualties. He further said the second floor has still not been cleared (second day) while ambulances were making consecutive trips till nearly dusk time. The said person adds that after the attack, the area was cordoned off by foreign troops until dusk time and even the minister of interior was not allowed near the site. The foreign forces evacuated the dead foreign nationals from the scene then allowed the internal intelligence agency to participate in the clear up however the number of killed, most of whom were foreigners is still not known but the said person says that he believes the number reaches into hundreds. The commander who does not want to be named adds that he has never seen such destruction while all the workers near Qargha lakeside have been told to not talk to any news outlets about the casualties.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-28   22:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1500. To: redleghunter, Miss Jimmie (#1497)

Since you like fire so much, here is some to consider:

Hebrews Chapter 12:...28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear. 29 For our God is a consuming fire.

LOL..."How about a little fire, Scarecrow?!?"

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-28   22:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1501. To: mcgowanjm, Redleghunter (#1486)

you'd better get over to the USAF Academy pronto.

Your Fundy HQ is burning down.

This is what a 2C degree rise in the Planet's Temp means.

Miss Jimmie - you ARE the drama queen, aren't you! BOO!!

A 2C degree rise on the surface of Planet Hell is to be expected, isn't it you k00k?? Why fret? Just take another Valium. OR few more lithium tabs.

Red, Miss Jimmie considers the USA "Fundie HQ". Ain't that funny?? What with all the drag queens, Gay Canaries, La Razas, Sharptons, Mexicans, Fascist-Atheists, Marxists, Tree-Huggers, mutant punks, and Union Thugs marching and parading around on CNN and MSNBC, WHO KNEW??

What a damned, parasitic queer little hypocrite...What's he still doing stealing OUR national resources, OUR electricity, OUR freedom, OUR tradition, OUR heritage, and OUR technology??

How does this treacherous, treasonous leech find the time?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-28   22:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1502. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#1487)

And who's talkin' revolution?

Why?

When the USSA collapses by Xmas.

Like Robert Gates and the USSR.

One minute it's there....and then it's gone like smoke over Colorado Springs....;}

I'm thinkin the Taliban set that fire.

You better get after 'em....LMAO......;}

I'm wondering why you are here. You write like you hate America.

Actually, you write like you are one truly miserable human being.

Zesta  posted on  2012-06-28   22:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1503. To: mcgowanjm, aka his fantasy (#1492)

Here's no action to take.

Except to stop:

Wasting fuel..

Driving cars...

Making humans.

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=28205&Disp=1492#C1492

Translation:

Jimmy's Revolution bible sez:

"Stop living ASAP. Stop creating families. Return to the Stone Age. Me and my brethren shall live like Kings and Princesses afterward". Amen.

So...Won't you please make a Marxist-Atheist Anarchistic tree-hugging elite like Jimmy happy?

Reconsider your current job and life. Walk to work (in the fields) like the slave that Marxists demand of you. Buy yourself a mule and buggy (a horse is a luxury in his world). Unplug your PC and toaster. (ONLY elites like Jimmie should be allowed that kind of "right" to communications & technology. And if you must have a baby, the State shall be the rightful parent OWNER.

Gaia approved Jimmy's message (btw, I hear she is VERY angry - you'd better listen to her or else she'll raise the temperature ANOTHER 2C on "Planet Hell"!)

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-28   23:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1504. To: Zesta, mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, sneakypete (#1502) (Edited)

I'm wondering why you are here. You write like you hate America.

Actually, you write like you are one truly miserable human being.

Jimmy won't say whether he is a citizen of the US or in mental institution outside continental US. But yes, he seems to have a fetish for reporting of present and future misery and fantasizing of a Planet that suffers...as though our being is a hell that EVERYONE has "earned". Cuz he sez so.

Oddly enough, he has stolen enough electricity to post his drivel on a computer, and enough oxygen to do so on a daily basis.

Why Jimmy?? WHY?!?? Why do you hate so much? And why do you regard "Fundies" ( like sneakypete) as your devil-on-earth? Have they put a gun (or explosive bible) to YOUR head too? Have they jailed you or tortured you? Have they stolen your life or wife or bi/tri-lover? Come clean (either of you).

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-28   23:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1505. To: A K A Stone (#0)

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Post Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:44 am by mcgowanjm

IT's over.

071012 becomes the new terminal date.

06/27/2012 On Human Hopes For The Future

This may be my last post (WHEN I read this, I immediately thought of the wasted human lying somewhere [Desert, swamp, wasteland, battlefield, lost in WalMart :lol: , hoping for rescue but realizing it's almost hopeless :twisted: ) until the weekend. I don't know, it depends on my mood, which has not been good lately. I consider this an important essay, so I suggest you read it carefully, and perhaps more than once, so what I said gets a chance to sink in — Dave

http://peakwatch.typepad.com/decline_of_the_empire/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   7:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1506. To: Liberator (#1504)

MISTER Jimmie to you, Lib.

And Heavy on the Mister....;}

Now where were we...

" I'm wondering why you are here. You write like you hate America.

Actually, you write like you are one truly miserable human being. "

I'm here to make sure you and yours are held to account.

That you were warned repeatedly and refused.....;}

"Jimmy won't say whether....."

And ADDRESS a post to me and then talk about me in the Third Person is the SUREST way to know that I'll read no further.....;}

NEXT

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   7:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1507. To: Liberator (#1503)

So you gonna translate for

Mister Jimmie now?

On My Thread?

You're full of shit....libby.

I stated clearly and concisely...no translation needed:

(T)Here's no action to take.

Except to stop:

Wasting fuel..

Driving cars...

Making humans.

And you won;t change a thing except to push down harder on your accelerator.

Mountain strait ahead....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   7:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1508. To: Zesta, ALL (#1502)

I'm wondering why you are here.

And I'M wondering when you got here.

Or did you just change monikers, Z....;}

Gonna need some Bonafides, that's for sure.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   7:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1509. To: Liberator (#1501)

MISTER Jimmie, asshole.....;}

NEXT.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   7:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1510. To: redleghunter (#1497) (Edited)

With a 2 C degree rise

The SW USSA burns....see USAF Academy for details....

Since you like fire so much, here is some to consider:

O NONONONONONO

You presume . wrong....;}

I just recognize ignition point and warn that you should stop sparking near that torch....

BIIIG difference.

And you, of course, in that Great Texican tradition blame the person doing the warning....LMFAO...

Gonna break some more records in Texas today,

Texicans love doing that....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   7:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1511. To: All (#1510)

So. Now that's ou of the way....

New NEWS:

"I was half-listening to NPR's Talk of the Nation on Monday afternoon when I heard some remarks which got my full attention. Host Neal Conan was talking with various guests at the Aspen Environmental Forum on getting people to pay attention to the realities of global warming. I have numbered and emphasized the crucial passages.

George Divoki — Well, when I look at climate change, I'm always most impressed with the physical data. Given what is happening to glaciers around the world and given the fact that it is now an almost certainty that the Arctic pack ice will disappear in the 21st century, that is the sort of information and certainly what Craig is finding out and what I'm finding out are good stories to tell about climate change. But when you see that sort of data being reported by the media and the public just basically accepting, oh yes, soon we won't have a polar ice cap in the summer, it just indicates to me that somehow the story needs to be brought to the forefront and the consequences of that ice loss; 50 years down the road, what will be happening in North America due to that ice loss needs to be brought up."

We don't have 50 years.

At 2C degree Over shoot, Methan Fountaining at the Arctic Circle begins.

The Amazon turns from Sink to Emitter of CO2.

The Deniers' Fantasy World: EIA Projects 40% Rise ... -

ThinkProgress

thinkprogress.org/climate/.../deniers-fantasy-world-eia-projects-40-ris

Sep 21, 2011 – The EIA assumes virtually no new climate and clean energy policies in their “reference” case. ... increase at an average annual rate of 1.3 percent from 2008 to 2035 .... Hansen said earlier in the year that even a 1.5 degree rise above .... 5-6 deg C temp rise for a doubling of CO2; by the late 1950′s there ...

We've got less than 10 years now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   7:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1512. To: All (#1511)

LAst Chance was Rockefellers/BigOil

replace 1 degree rise with

2 degrees.

And 350 ppm for 300.

Environmentalists outraged.

Back in 1990....;}

Poppy decided to Start a war with our Stooge Saddam instead and wipe out the Peace Dividend....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   7:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1513. To: All (#1499)

A police commander said on condition of anonymity that more than a hundred people were killed here however we have been told to stay mute about the casualties. He further said the second floor has still not been cleared (second day) while ambulances were making consecutive trips till nearly dusk time. The said person adds that after the attack, the area was cordoned off by foreign troops until dusk time and even the minister of interior was not allowed near the site. The foreign forces evacuated the dead foreign nationals from the scene then allowed the internal intelligence agency to participate in the clear up however the number of killed, most of whom were foreigners is still not known but the said person says that he believes the number reaches into hundreds. The commander who does not want to be named adds that he has never seen such destruction while all the workers near Qargha lakeside have been told to not talk to any news outlets about the casualties.

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m89179&hd=&size=1&l=e

Just a note here on how Media are so selective with the Taliban site,

Reuters, et al, but NEVER do they quote actual Battle Posts from there....never.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   8:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1514. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Who's paying for the Spain/Italy Bailouts?

The Federal Reserve. Who'd you think?....;}

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=DX&cot=098662&p=m5

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   8:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1515. To: All (#1514)

Michael Weiss Michael Weiss is the Communications Director of The Henry Jackson Society, a foreign policy think tank, as well as the co-chair of its Russia Studies Centre. A native New Yorker, he has written widely on English and Russian literature, American culture, Soviet history and the Middle East. Follow @michaeldweiss

Turkey asks Nato about a no-fly zone as Syria makes it clear that it's ready to fight dirty

per antiwar....

Justin needs to be more careful of who he puts up as sources.

Weiss is either MI6, CIA or MOSSAD. IF you think there's a difference....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   8:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1516. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The psychological literature does indeed say that if you scare people too much, they'll just turn off and say global warming isn't happening. And it's true, that's what people do, and of course this characteristic human behavior is not helpful as we face the future. Denial only makes a bad situation worse. Those who have not reacted this way to dire climate forecasts have remained upbeat because they believe—they've been told by "experts" they trust—that solutions to the climate problem are readily available and cheap to implement. (For example, see my post Understanding Paul Krugman's View Of The Future.)

Optimists are becoming less sanguine as time goes on and no actions are taken, but if people actually understood what is required to fix global warming, many of them would probably react the way the North Carolina Senate did when they voted to ignore future sea level rise....

-DOTE

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   8:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1517. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#1. To: Robin (#0)

Experts say there are no clear answers to what comes next for Stockton or how its fall will affect the rest of the state. Other cities hit hard by the housing bust and state budget crisis are negotiating with employee unions for concessions and are watching to see if municipal bankruptcy proves medicine or poison.

See Greece and the EZ for details.

First one squeezing thru the door wins.

Expect everyone to look to get the SAME BEST DEAL.

The USSA disintegrates....

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-29 9:32:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: All (#1)

Went to my Wal MArt last night about 7.

IT was a ghost town.

Now this Wal Mart is one of Wal Marts Flagship stores.

A Model for it's system.

MY wife asked where were the Greeters.

The guy at the register said they'd been let go.

So how were we to mark Returns? (Formerly the Greeters' job.)

'Just go strait to Customer Service.'

A wizened Lady at a cash register next to, overhearing, stated (Like I said, They were DEFINITELY not busy;}

Next, Begging the Question:

'So what happens if the beeper goes off'.

And Everyone understood immediately what my wife meant by that....LMAO...8D

Wizened Lady:

'O it happens regularly, especially if I'm checking people out. They wave over their shoulder to me and I wave back.....'

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....8D

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   9:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1518. To: Fred Mertz, All (#1517)

^^^;)

Coming to a Wal Mart near you....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   9:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1519. To: mcgowanjm (#1518)

Walmart has some great deals. I will there within a week spending some bucks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-29   9:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1520. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

http://www.the-peoples-forum.com...gi?ArtNum=29088&Disp=1#C1

#1. To: Robin (#0)

The chart on the right shows U.S oil consumption. Take a look at the past few years: oil consumption has dropped nearly 2 million barrels per day since 2007. Over the same period, U.S. imports of oil have dropped 2.1 million barrels per day.

That's 4 MMBD and what the author does not realize is that,

Yes, we can and WILL stop oil imports.

The problem is the reason we're stopping.

There's No Return on Consumption.

No burning/wasting oil, no economic growth.

Which is why that Stat above also tells us how bad the Depression now is....;}

And speaking of debt...

How does the Lender get his collateral back on a loan for oil when the oil has been burned up....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   10:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1521. To: A K A Stone (#1519)

Walmart has some great deals. I will there within a week spending some bucks.

Wal Mart/Sam's the only places we shop.

Our Hometown store.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   10:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1522. To: mcgowanjm (#1520)

http://www.the-peoples-forum.com...gi?ArtNum=29088&Disp=1#C1

Why you linking to a 'closed forum' where only bitches and cunts are allow to read the posts?

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-06-29   12:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1523. To: Liberator (#1501)

Red, Miss Jimmie considers the USA "Fundie HQ". Ain't that funny?? What with all the drag queens, Gay Canaries, La Razas, Sharptons, Mexicans, Fascist-Atheists, Marxists, Tree-Huggers, mutant punks, and Union Thugs marching and parading around on CNN and MSNBC, WHO KNEW??

Yeah, some folk need to push away from the computer a bit and take a stroll down main street USA to get a reality check.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-29   13:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1524. To: redleghunter (#1523)

Yeah, some folk need to push away from the computer a bit and take a stroll down main street USA to get a reality check.

Hard to do from their padded cell (or Mom's basement)

:-)

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-29   13:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1525. To: A K A Stone (#1519)

Wanted to give you a head's up that I mentioned you on another board...

Political / Re: Nuns vs. Romney: The Sisters Hit the Battleground State of Ohio « on: Today at 11:34:11 AM »

Quote from: brownsfan on Today at 11:14:33 AM

I know you *lie* with regularity,

Offering information that stands in direct opposition to your separate reality does not obviate that information and render it into one or several falsehoods.

In other words, your *arguments* are regularly decimated by me to the point of humiliation. This results in your melting down, calling me a lair and then attacking me personally.

That is a pattern that both you and MusicLady repeat ad infinitum. The host at LP, also an Ohioan, routinely suffers a similar fate at my hand and responds in like fashion to yours.

My conclusion? You Ohioans are pretty eff en stupid.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-06-29   13:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1526. To: Brian S (#1522)

Why you linking to a 'closed forum' where only bitches and cunts are allow to read the posts?

That covers Chan...what about the others?

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-06-29   13:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1527. To: Brian S (#1522)

Why you linking to a 'closed forum' where only bitches and cunts are allow to read the posts?

That's funny and true. A little surprising coming from you. Did they ban you?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-29   19:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1528. To: Brian S (#1522)

So it locks you out?

You have to go thru the front door ,eh?

One moment, dick....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   20:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1529. To: A K A Stone (#1527)

Why you linking to a 'closed forum' where only bitches and cunts are allow to read the posts?

That's funny and true. A little surprising coming from you. Did they ban you?

What's funny is that Brian got his feelin's hurt.

You realize there' s a reason that not one woman is on this site.

Dontacha think? Lulzzzz....;}

An All White Male cast.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   20:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1530. To: mcgowanjm (#1528)

So it locks you out?

Everyone is 'locked out' to view or post on the forum unless registered.

No worries however, that place was dead even before it died.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-06-29   20:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1531. To: mcgowanjm (#1529)

What's funny is that Brian got his feelin's hurt.

My 'feelin's' certainly weren't hurt but I can't stand liars, of which that forum host is.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-06-29   20:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1532. To: A K A Stone (#1527)

Did they ban you?

The "Liar's Nest" claim I requested my account be retired or some bullshit like that.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-06-29   20:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1533. To: Brian S (#1522)

Three things that LF likes to avoid now:

Market Manipulation....

Peak Oil.....

Climate Change...

Robin has no such inhibitions.

Care to post something on the above Brian?....;}

"#1. To: Robin (#0)

The chart on the right shows U.S oil consumption. Take a look at the past few years: oil consumption has dropped nearly 2 million barrels per day since 2007. Over the same period, U.S. imports of oil have dropped 2.1 million barrels per day.

That's 4 MMBD and what the author does not realize is that,

Yes, we can and WILL stop oil imports.

The problem is the reason we're stopping.

There's No Return on Consumption.

No burning/wasting oil, no economic growth.

Which is why that Stat above also tells us how bad the Depression now is....;}

And speaking of debt...

How does the Lender get his collateral back on a loan for oil when the oil has been burned up....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-29 10:14:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #2. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Which is why that Stat above also tells us how bad the Depression now is....;}

That could be part of it. However, the freeways and toll roads are still full of cars. Traffic is as bad as ever here in SoCal.

“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist.” Dom Hélder Pessoa Câmara, Archbishop of Olinda and Recife, also known as the ‘Bishop of Corum’

Robin posted on 2012-06-29 10:20:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #3. To: Robin (#2) (Edited)

That could be part of it. However, the freeways and toll roads are still full of cars. Traffic is as bad as ever here in SoCal.

4 MMBD from 22 MMBD = 18 MMBD.

www.ceridianindex.com/index.php

The UCLA pulse of Commerce Index.

It's rolling over now.

To match this.

And Wonder how each and every one of those vehicles is paying for the fuel/car they're driving....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-29 13:10:25 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   20:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1534. To: Brian S, A K A Stone, All (#1533) (Edited)

www.motherjones.com/kevin...t-fracking-its-efficiency

And the chart's wrong.

We're down 4 MMBD.

Looking forward to nothing but crickets here from all the totally diverse knowledgeable not Homosexual But not liking uppity women either all white men....LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   20:55:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1535. To: mcgowanjm (#1533)

Your thread is getting to large and taking too much time to load.

Going to put it on ignore. Perhaps you should start another.

See ya...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-06-29   20:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1536. To: Brian S (#1535)

Your thread is getting to large and taking too much time to load.

Going to put it on ignore. Perhaps you should start another.

See ya...

Talk to A K A about the editing.

And I don't have any trouble with it.

But after your ignorance I'm having some with you.

Suit yourself.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   21:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1537. To: Brian S (#1531)

My 'feelin's' certainly weren't hurt but I can't stand liars, of which that forum host is.

Robin hasn't lied to me... and we talk everyday.

So I'll need your source.

But not expecting anything else from you.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   21:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1538. To: Brian S (#1530)

No worries however, that place was dead even before it died.

I get in easy enough.

And I like it because it IS easy enough to get into.

And I post everyday.

No problems with Anything I want.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   21:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1539. To: All (#1536)

And I don't see anything over here that TPF doesn't have except Fundys and Lack of women.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-29   21:07:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1540. To: mcgowanjm (#1539)

Stone ran off all the wimmens.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-29   23:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1541. To: Fred Mertz (#1540)

Stone ran off all the wimmens.

Sounds homosexual to me....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-30   8:13:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1542. To: A K A Stone (#0)

“As a cavalry scout, it is my job to stay hidden. Wearing a uniform that stands out this badly makes it hard to do our job effectively,” he said. “If we can see our own guys across a distance because of it, then so can our enemy.”

The fact that the government spent $5 billion on a camouflage design that actually made its soldiers more visible — and then took eight years to correct the problem — has also left people in the camouflage industry incensed. The total cost comes from the Army itself and includes the price of developing the pattern and producing it for the entire service branch.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-30   9:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1543. To: All (#1542)

So we think we're sneaking around in the Afghans while the Taliban can see as well as hear us comin' miles away.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-30   9:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1544. To: All (#1543)

So, pray tell, how exactly did this particular clusterfuck happen, anyway?

The problem, the researchers said, was an oddly named branch of the Army in charge of equipping soldiers with gear — Program Executive Office Soldier — had suddenly ordered Natick’s camouflage team to pick a pattern long before trials were finished.

“They jumped the gun,” said James Fairneny, an electrical engineer on Natick’s camouflage team.

Researchers said they received a puzzling order: Take the winning colors and create a pixilated pattern. Researchers were ordered to “basically put it in the Marine Corps pattern,” Fairneny said.

For a decision that could ultimately affect more than a million soldiers in the Army, reserves and National Guard, the sudden shift from Program Executive Office Soldier was a head-scratcher.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-30   9:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1545. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#2. To: Robin (#0)

It's over.

Google Expose: the 2C degree fraud

then Google: June 21 2012 Science Daily Lake E longest sediment core reveals 4 to 5 degree warming interglacial.

then Google:

EIA 6C degree rise by 2035.

Scientists do not model a 4C degree rise for a reason.

We've got maybe 18 years left.

Probably less with the various Positive Feedback Loops like Methane Fountains Arctic Circle.

Another ICe Age triggered by a 4-5C degree warmup or a Total crash of human emissions now...

those are the only solutions left.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-30 9:22:38 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-30   9:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1546. To: All (#1544)

LMFAO...even now this ARMY guy has ZERO idea of how ....

revealing.....;}....

his statement is:

" It’s worth noting that, flawed as it was, the universal pattern did solve the problem of mismatched gear, said Eric Graves, editor of the military gear publication Soldier Systems Daily, adding that the pattern also gave soldiers a new-looking uniform that clearly identified the Army brand."

Yep...A CLEARLY IDed Army Guy...and that's EXACTLY what the Army was looking for....LMFAO...you can't make this up.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-30   9:29:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1547. To: A K A Stone (#0)

We're so fucked.

Starting now....;}

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#1548. To: All (#1547)

by Ian Welsh

Roberts voted how he did because health insurance companies are absolutely desperate for the money they will get from the mandate. All of the legitimacy arguments are bullshit, about 70% of Americans opposed the mandate.(pdf) This is more similar to TARP than anything else: it is a massive corporate giveaway, opposed by the majority of the population, and passed over their dissent.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-30   10:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1549. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

Fragging....

In the U.S. military, fragging (from fragmentation grenade) refers to the act of deliberately assassinating another member, or members of the military, particularly (a) member(s) of ones own command or fighting squad. Additionally, the term can be applied to manipulating the chain of command in order to have an individual, or unit, deliberately killed, by placing them into harm's way with the intended result being their demise. An example would be to order a single soldier to perform a particularly hazardous task, and repeat the said task until they meet their demise. The term originated during the Vietnam War and was most commonly used to mean the assassination of an unpopular officer of one's own fighting unit.

-wiki

525th Battlefield Surveillance Brigade - Wikipedia, the free ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/525...ield_Surveillance_Brigade

The 525th Battlefield Surveillance Brigade is a unit of the United States Army .... was relocated from Fort Bragg to Fort Huachuca, where it was re-designated the ...

# United States Army Intelligence Center and Fort Huachuca www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/wht-ppr.htmCached - Similar

Sep 1, 1997 – TRADOC Pamphlet 525-5, Force XXI, outlines the Armyís future warfighting requirements; .... Conduct human reconnaissance and surveillance.

Back in the pre Desert Storm years we had a Battalion Commander sent to our Battalion just as we were closing up the 2nd A.D. This LTC's first meeting with his NCO's began wih "It is my job to put as many of you as possible out of the Army as we downsize." It was pretty much down hill fast from there. So the Senior NCO's 7's and 8's all made an exit with a retirement in hand.......

Then we get informed we are going to Saudi Arabia in three weeks and to get the Tanks ready to go. Never have I seen a greater failure in Leadership. He was so hated he had to have an armed guard at his tent every night. He had his "special" boots stolen.He had one leg shorter than the other and foreverafter was known as Col. Halftrack.

Someone left a bullet on his pillow. He lost his weapon. Comming out of the minefield breech we leaned even with a GPS he couldn't read a map or keep a Battalion formation. He had so little respect at Division level (where he left) we couldn't get chow, fuel or supplies when we needed it.

He was so adept at implementing trumped up UCMJ charges and those who made it through his "Command" often had their careers damaged beyond repair. So cry all you like about the death of a "Hero", you never know the whole story unless you were there.

# J.M. Says: June 29th, 2012 at 7:14 am Ft Bragg…..

The 525 has had alot of criminal problems the past few years.

My SLC class had the current (at the time) BDE CDR as a guest speaker at Huachuca. He showed up late and smelling of booze, and spent more time talking about the leadership challenges (prostitution and drug rings run out of his barracks) then he did about MI.

# 8 Beretverde Says: June 29th, 2012 at 8:11 am Workplace violence? # 9 ROS Says: June 29th, 2012 at 8:42 am Dear God…….

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-01   7:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1550. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#1. To: Skip Intro (#0)

This week’s spike toward triple-digit temperatures is unusual, they say.

Climate scientists is the unspoken 'they'.

How the USSA MSM Agit Prop manufactures the lie.

Right in front of your face....;}

mcgowanjm

And now FOX mWEATHER is lying.

After flipping from CNN showing 7 different 105 and Higher Temp marks across the USSA,

FOX shows a map of tomorrow and not ONE 100 degree mark ion the map East of Dallas.....

Good Luck with that declining Nielson you got going there....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-01   7:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1551. To: All (#1550)

And you can look up where I said back in

Feb to look forward to 115 in KC by July....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-01   7:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1552. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#9. To: nolu chan (#6) (Edited)

However, Obama could not have gotten that through Congress.

He had a Super Mandate which he IMMEDIATELY negated by saying he wanted to....

wait for it....

'Reach across the aisle for support'

You know what the 'repukes' (Head's up to google-I'm actually using that word now...Lulzz.) would be doing with a Super Mandate....LMFAO

This is the USSA...and we're an Empire....and as we grab it, it slips from our hands....;}

"They work for the good of the greatest number, and the greatest number is number one. "

Bull SHite...

So why are the Top .1% Richer than God, with the Greatest Concentration of Wealth ever known after and as continuing the Greatest Wealth Transfer in Human History is continuing..

" they've given up everything that matters -- is there anything at all you won't give up? This is the inevitable result of engaging in this manner with a fundamentally corrupt system:

Thus, the lesson: when you choose to be a critical part of a system that has become this corrupt -- and the endless corruptions of our corporatist-authoritarian-militarist system have been documented at great length here and in other places -- you will not ameliorate or "save" it. The system will necessarily and inevitably corrupt you.

That last point is absolutely critical, and it must never be forgotten......;}

-Arthur Silber

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-01 7:51:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #10. To: nolu chan (#6)

The vote in November may well turn into a referendum on whether to keep the Obama TAX

But Obama STILL calls it a MANDATE....;}

"The Democrats don't actually favor a repressive, authoritarian state. The Democrats are good, and they want liberty and peace for everyone, everywhere, for eternity, hallelujah and amen.

People who continue to believe this have evicted themselves from serious political debate, and they have willingly made themselves slaves to their enthusiastically embraced self-delusions. They confess a comprehensive ignorance of history, a stunning inability to understand the political developments of the last century, and a desire to place the story they have chosen, primarily because it flatters their own false sense of vanity and self-worth, above every relevant fact.

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#1553. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:11 am by mcgowanjm Re: Hot by Linda the Ozarker As FOX per this AM is now lying about the weather.

Yesterday and today:

104/05/07's from Colorado to DC.

That per CNN.

Fox weather Map for tomorrow.

Not one 100 degree temp (98 the highest :lol: ) on the map from OKC to DC.... :twisted:

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Post Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:21 am by mcgowanjm Re: Hot by Linda the Ozarker

Post Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:21 am by mcgowanjm

pamela wrote:here's a really timely article posted today by Linda the Ozarker! http://conflicteddoomer.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/hot/

When asked, in the Q/A session, about the buildup of CO2 from burning fossil fuels and resulting problems from climate change, Mr. Tillerson reckoned that while climate change from increased CO2 is real and causing problems, he was not so sure science was able to predict with any accuracy the coming effects with current models. He implied that, those “interested persons” with their fear mongering were exaggerating the effects, that problems such as sea level rise and the movement of food production areas due to drought,.....

And thank you, Pamela.

I had that article cued up to read and just deleted it.

bullshit.

Note to PM.

Climate change ...Peak Oil.....Market Manipulation....and we're Not EVEN talking about the synergistic interacting Positive Feedback Loops from same is not Only News...

it's the Truth that's being replaced by Silence...evil.... :twisted:

Because this Post is the Cutting Edge...and look at that quote again:

When asked, in the Q/A session, about the buildup of CO2 from burning fossil fuels and resulting problems from climate change, Mr. Tillerson reckoned that while climate change from increased CO2 is real and causing problems, he was not so sure science was able to predict with any accuracy the coming effects with current models. He implied that, those “interested persons” with their fear mongering were exaggerating the effects, that problems such as sea level rise and the movement of food production areas due to drought,....

I’m often asked why people living in industrialized nations shouldn’t relent to hopelessness and party like hedonists as the world burns. My typical response is to ask how our lives would be different if we suddenly starting acting like hedonists.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-01   9:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1554. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

Good July Morning...8D

The Good News for me is that I'm self referencing

Climate Change acceleration as I google for news

on

EIA 6 C degrees by 2035

;}

So I'm going to experiment on just dumping raw data here, like, once a day or so....;}

" It's also instructive to look at how much more global temperature would rise if solar, wind and hydro were not available at the levels estimated by EIA between 2008 and 2035 and coal were used instead.[7] The additional rise would be about 0.0016 C in the case of solar, 0.0126 C for wind, 0.0565 C for hydro, and 0.0706 C for all three of these alternatives combined.[8] These avoided temperature increases are significant and renewable energy installations will keep on giving beyond 2035, but they are a small component of the overall temperature equation, which by the same assumptions is predicted to rise 0.49 C from carbon added to the atmosphere over this period.

These limits to mitigation deliver a clear message: It's past time to begin adapting to climate change with the same effort and specificity that communities invest in preparing for a coming hurricane or flood. Many involved in climate policy see this, but many other policymakers do not. We need to be ready for melting ice, rising sea level, floods, droughts, weather extremes, and changing, stressed ecology. We need zoning and other policies to stop people from moving into low-lying coastal cities and areas that will be more prone to flooding and drought. We need to breed and genetically engineer crops that will handle extremes. We need to anticipate where water shortages will arise and build needed infrastructure or shift how the land is used. We need to protect and manage ecosystems with a view to how they will change and move, preserving corridors for migration and dispersion. We need to establish and maintain a global bank for the DNA and viable tissue of all known species and new species as they are described, as a safety net against extinction. Most of all, we need to fasten our political will to action now. Who knows? If we accept the realities of adaptation, maybe the picture will be so vivid, ugly, and expensive that we'll address mitigation too.

www.brookings.edu/researc...mate-change-reality-brown

EIA 6 C 2035 Methane is a global warming pollutant like carbon dioxide – only much more potent. http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blog...s_needs_tighter_prod.html

5C and above – Highly unlikely nightmare scenario With a 5C rise, global average temperatures would be hotter than for 50m years. The Arctic region sees temperatures rise much higher than average – up to 20C – meaning the entire Arctic is now ice-free all year round. Most of the tropics, sub-tropics and even lower mid-latitudes are too hot to be inhabitable. The sea level rise is now sufficiently rapid that coastal cities across the world are largely abandoned. Above 6C, there would be a danger of "runaway warming", perhaps spurred by release of oceanic methane hydrates.

Since record amounts of water vapor can evaporate into air heated to record warm levels, it is not a surprise that incredible rains and unprecedented floods are resulting from this month’s near-record warm SSTs in the Gulf of Mexico.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate...ming-we-wouldnt-see-this/

globalwarming.berrens.nl/globalwarming.htm

Four days into the crisis, survivors were packed into the city’s Superdome, living next to overflowing toilets and rotting bodies as gangs of young men with guns seized the only food and water available. Perhaps the most memorable scene was a single military helicopter landing for just a few minutes, its crew flinging food parcels and water bottles out onto the ground before hurriedly taking off again as if from a war zone. In scenes more like a Third World refugee camp than an American urban centre, young men fought for the water as pregnant women and the elderly looked on with nothing. Don’t blame them for behaving like this, I thought. It’s what happens when people are desperate.

Chance of avoiding one degree of global warming: zero.

OK....That's It!.....;}

The Raw Data Collection for July 2, 2012

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-02   7:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1555. To: A K A Stone (#0)

thinkprogress.org/climate...ming-we-wouldnt-see-this/

“Nashville has reached its hottest temperature on record…109 degrees at 314 pm. The previous all time record was 107 from July 27th and 28th of 1952.”

UPDATE: Meteorologist Dr. Jeff Masters has more all-time heat records:

109° Columbia, SC (old record 107° on two previous occasions) 109° Cairo, IL (old record 106° on 8/9/1930) 108° Paducah, KY (ties same on 7/17/1942 106° Chattanooga, TN (ties same on 7/28/1952) 105° Raleigh, NC (ties same on 8/21/2007 and 8/18/1988) 105° Greenville, SC (old record 104° 8/10/2007 although 106° was recorded by the Signal Service in July 1887) 104° Charlotte, NC (ties same on 8/9 and 10/2007 and 9/6/1954) 102° Bristol, TN (ties same on 7/28/1952-this site now known as `Tri-State Airport’) 109° Athens, GA. This is just 1° shy of the Georgia state record for June of 110° set at Warrenton in 1959.

Here is a great graphic via Capital Climate:

The U.S. surface temperature map from Unisys at 4 pm, June 29,2012, shows 100° temperatures stretching almost continuously from California eastward to the Carolinas.

NBC Meteorologist Bill Karins said on Friday , “We’ve never really seen a heat wave like this in the month of June.” Sadly, in a few decades this will just be considered a normal June (see below).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-02   7:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1556. To: A K A Stone (#0)

All-time records set Thursday included several in Kansas, where Norton Dam recorded a high of 118°F, beating the old record of 113°F set just a few days earlier. Dodge City, Kan., set a daily high temperature record with a mark of 108°F. That came one day after that town recorded its all-time highest temperature of 112°F, breaking the old record of 110°F, which had been recorded just two days earlier, on June 26.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-02   8:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1557. To: All (#1556)

The peak temperature analysis comes from a Geophysical Research Letters paper that focused on the annual-maximum “once-in-a-century” temperature. The key scientific point is that “the extremes rise faster than the means in a warming climate.”

And the following will not happen because humans won't make it past 2035 except with an Ice Age...;}

The definitive NOAA-led U.S. climate impact report from 2010 warns of scorching 9 to 11°F warming over most of inland U.S. by 2090 with Kansas above 90°F some 120 days a year with 850 ppm.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-02   8:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1558. To: All (#1557)

Water Supply Shortages | Water Scarcity | Climate Change www.global-warming-forecasts.com/water-supply-shortage-water-sca...

Lake Mead's water levels could drop below its water intake pipes by 2013. ... Hoover Dam - Lake Mead Water Levels, 1983 and 2007 ..... What will be the impact of forecasted 1) spikes in extreme seasonal temperatures and 2) the .... They say just a few degrees' rise in temperature could mean less snow in the mountains, ...

IF not for the Record 2010-11 snow pack.....

So we're down to No Snow this year like last (2011-12).... take off the Record 2010-11 Lake Mead water vol increase and Lake Mead is there.

No power generation from Hoover Dam.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-02   8:26:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1559. To: All (#1558)

BETWEEN ONE AND TWO DEGREES OF WARMING

YOU> ARE> HERE>.....;}

400 ppm CO2 at the Arctic now = 2 C decgree rise since 1760 Baseline.

At this level, expected within 40 (UPDATE-4 ;) years, the hot European summer of 2003 will be the annual norm. Anything that could be called a heatwave thereafter will be of Saharan intensity. Even in average years, people will die of heat stress.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-02   8:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1560. To: All (#1559)

Notice how we don't get any

City Heat Emergencies anymore...?

OF what happens in say Chicago as it hits 100?

" The first symptoms may be minor. A person will feel slightly nauseous, dizzy and irritable. It needn’t be an emergency: an hour or so lying down in a cooler area, sipping water, will cure it. But in Paris, August 2003, there were no cooler areas, especially for elderly people.

Once body temperature reaches 41C (104F) its thermoregulatory system begins to break down. Sweating ceases and breathing becomes shallow and rapid. The pulse quickens, and the victim may lapse into a coma. Unless drastic measures are taken to reduce the body’s core temperature, the brain is starved of oxygen and vital organs begin to fail. Death will be only minutes away unless the emergency services can quickly get the victim into intensive care.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-02   8:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1561. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#15. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

And don't forget your Health Mandate Card when you go to vote, nolu....;}

I've got Medical covered three ways.

I'm not sure what could be used for routine certification of Federal citizenship eligibility to vote. Perhaps everyone could be given the option to obtain a passport at birth, and maintain it, or be taxed into submission for opting not to have a passport.

nolu chan posted on 2012-07-01 15:07:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #16. To: Robin (#12)

I'm not sure how much the average voter is paying attention.

The Citizen's United funding of the political war chest means so much corporate money that when they get ramped up after the nominations, you will want to turn off your TV and radio just to get away from the ads blaring. It will be a war of negative ads.

nolu chan posted on 2012-07-01 15:13:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #17. To: nolu chan (#15)

I'm not sure what could be used for routine certification of Federal citizenship eligibility to vote. Perhaps everyone could be given the option to obtain a passport at birth, and maintain it, or be taxed into submission for opting not to have a passport.

And Thank You, nolu

My point exactly.

The IRS will now be taxed (pun intended;) to gather the Health Insurance tax.

IT will now be up to the IRS, and of course they have all kinds of time on their hands, to VERIFY as well TAX.

You'll need a box when ever dealing with anything Federal and a whole new bureaucracy will need to be created.

Complexity collapse gains velocity.

OR we can eliminate the Middleman and go to

Single Payer Medicare/VA for all....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-02   8:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1562. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Re: World Markets - URL

Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:20 am by mcgowanjm

PM wrote:Nothing in here but chaos, but it will go on and on and on, till earth abides

If I thought that was the cas :twisted: :? 8-) e I wouldn't be here.....

And it IS all in the wording.

Words DO have meaning then..... :!:

Chaos Does have order.

And it only seems to be interminal because you fall into the Agit Prop trap of the royalty.

And speaking of who's in charge. A quick way to tell is how good guerrilla vids are taken down o so quickly.

Google Kate Middleton taxi queen

and try to watch that vid..... :twisted:

Why does royalty exist?

We are moving ahead. There is an End Game now.

Humans have been good at just about one thing, seen from a Martian POV:

Population Increase.....which makes us no different than Yeast Culture.

With the same result.

And you can see exactly where we are in the fermentation process as well.

If I was making bread with human culture, I'd be putting the yeast culture into the dough now...... :twisted: :? 8-)

Planet Hell is taking over now.

2 avg snows and a drought the next three Winters and Hoover Dam will stop producing electricity......by 2017.

There’s more than a little irony in this last area, because their normally self-publicising punditry has to somehow square the circle of being good at their jobs – that is, investment on behalf of clients – and being completely blind – that is, not noticing that Libor is variously a sham, a scam, a lie, and a tip-top hoodwinking practice fully approved by the British Bankers’ Association (BBA) to the point where the BBA serially lied about it in press releases stretching back five years.

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Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:25 am by mcgowanjm Re: World Markets - URL

Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:25 am by mcgowanjm The Best quote of the day from CNBC:

MY Edit: And yes, I turned the volume on this AM. Only took 20 secs, but I did suffer to be one of the 87 000 (holiday viewers :twisted: watching)

A guy from the Chicago floor:

'After all, this (LIeBor) started before the Crisis....'

This is how bad history gets written.

'Bad' meaning 'Not the way it happened', which is what revisionist history is all about.

Just that phrase/statement above. The first question I'd ask is:

So when did this crisis start? And could you be wro :twisted: ng about that....

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Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:34 am by mcgowanjm Re: World Markets - URL

Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:34 am by mcgowanjm So when did this crisis start.

And BTW, for an effective google, you need to know the answer beforehand.

Weird huh?

Extracts from

* The ACT’s Guide to the Loan Market Association Documentation for Investment-Grade Borrowers, 1 June 2007.

It seems, however, that in the current market conditions the data being provided by banks for the purposes of calculating the displayed screen rates for LIBOR and EURIBOR is not in all cases reflecting the true cost of funds. If this is correct, it means that banks are not providing good information and, as a result, they are triggering a situation in which the Market Disruption clause is likely to be invoked, thus enabling banks to abandon the transparent system of displayed screen rates and instead to charge borrowers interest rates based on the individual cost of funds of each bank. This is a highly opaque and cumbersome way to calculate interest on major loans.

www.treasurers.org/marketdisruption/pressrelease

YA THINK :?: :roll: :shock: :twisted:

Now what was happening with bear stearns june 2007

Bear Stearns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_StearnsCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo On June 22, 2007, Bear Stearns pledged a collateralized loan of up to $3.2 billion to "bail out" one of its funds, the Bear Stearns High-Grade Structured Credit ...

Good Thing the Crisis hadn't started yet and that Bear Stears had that ACT LIBOR policy missive in hand, eh?

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Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:40 am by mcgowanjm Re: World Markets - URL

Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:40 am by mcgowanjm And note to PM.

This won't go on much longer....

say 071021...

because the PRoblem with market manipulation and AgitProp is that it slows down transmission of information.

Information Reality treats Censorship, which is what we're talking aboutn here as a MALFUNCTION.

And Will IMMEDIATELY institute Workaround procedures.

Which is why it's not some kind of magic or wild imaginings for me to come up with 062112 as an Inflection Point.

After 35 years of this guerrilla information warfare, I'm running right along side these 1/2 human cretins. They're out of Arguements and out of time and so must resort to violence.

071012

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-03   10:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1563. To: All (#1562)

Anyone wondering if the reason why Diamond resigned less than 6 hours ago is because he suddenly grew a conscience, will be disappointed. The real reasons are two: on one hand politicians were concerned he would make it public where all the bodies were buried as reported last night, in the process taking down at least half the English political establishment, obviating his departure from the public eye immediately, and, more importantly, as BBC's Robert Peston reports, the English Fed, that "impartial" and "apolitical" institution known as the Bank of England, got involved.

The Ken Lay Principle..... :twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-03   10:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1564. To: mcgowanjm, SJN, Liberator (#1529)

You realize there' s a reason that not one woman is on this site.

Really? Hey SJN, jimmy thinks there are no women here at LF. Go figure, guess he is hanging out in the men's locker room again looking for women:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-03   16:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1565. To: mcgowanjm, Liberator, A K A Stone (#1533)

Three things that LF likes to avoid now:

Market Manipulation....

Peak Oil.....

Climate Change...

You are forgetting Muslim manipulation. You seem to forget about that here in the padded room:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

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#1566. To: mcgowanjm, Liberator, A K A Stone, SJN (#1563)

US News

Jeremiah Wright To Deliver Sermon In D.C. Sunday By Elizabeth Flock

D.C.'s historic Florida Avenue Baptist Church is marking its centennial with a special sermon on Sunday, delivered by President Barack Obama's former pastor, the controversial Jeremiah Wright.

During the 2008 Obama campaign, the media dissected and lambasted Wright's former sermons, which included remarks that the Sept. 11 attacks were proof "America's chickens are coming home to roost," and another comment: "...not 'God Bless America.' God damn America."

When reached by phone, the church said it did not know what Wright's sermon would be about.

[Check out our editorial cartoons on President Obama.]

Since its founding 100 years ago, the Florida Avenue Baptist Church has only had four pastors, but welcomed numerous guest pastors to speak.

Wright is pastor emeritus of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, having retired in early 2008.

Update, 2:26 p.m.:

Florida Avenue Baptist Church Reverend Doctor Earl D. Trent Jr. tells Whispers that Wright was chosen because the church has a longstanding relationship with the Chicago pastor.

"We've always been at the cutting edge here," Reverend Trent said. "And the more special the occasion, the more special the guest."

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-03   17:49:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1567. To: redleghunter (#1564)

Hey SJN, jimmy thinks there are no women here at LF. Go figure, guess he is hanging out in the men's locker room again looking for women:)

That's because I don't wear a burka. ; )

SJN  posted on  2012-07-04   0:11:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1568. To: SJN (#1567)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-04   0:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1569. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#435. To: All (#0)

You are here:

Just about anything written about Climate Change pre 2010 is hopelessly out of date.

Any CC article talking Centuries, or 2200 or even 2050 is way off the mark.

“It appears that we’re about to cross a threshold in summer . . . you might even call it a tipping point as we go into a net energy absorption” of the higher elevations, Box said. “Then we’ll see the melt area expanding abruptly and potentially covering the entire ice sheet in summer for the first time in observations.”

Box said the shift may take another decade or so, provided that current trends continue. “We’re right on the threshold.”

Colgan said it’s difficult to make predictions based on the reflectivity record, but it would be significant if 2012 becomes another record melt year.

"Box said the shift may take another decade or so...." like this guy, in Greenland now....

2012 Greenland ice melt greatest ever.

We've got months....

The UK’s Hadley Centre climate change model, best known forwarning of catastrophic losses of Amazon forest, predicts that undercurrent levels of greenhouse gas emissions, the chances of such adrought would rise from 5% now (one every 20 years) to 50% by 2030, andto 90% by 2100.

(We won't be here in 2050...;}

The collapse of the Amazon is part of the reversal of the carbon cycle projected to happen around 3°C, a view confirmed by a range ofresearchers using carbon-coupled climate models. 3 degrees C would likely see increasing and significantly large areas of the terrestrial environment being rendered essentially uninhabitable by drought andheat.

3C happens by 2020....

Rainfall in Mexico and Central America is projected to fall by50%. Southern Africa would be exposed to perennial drought, a hugeexpanse centred on Botswana could see a remobilisation of old sanddunes, much as is projected to happen earlier in the US west. TheRockies would be snowless and the Colorado river will fail half the time.

Hoover Dam stops producing electricity by 2017....;}

Drought intensity in Australia could triple.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-04 7:03:21 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   7:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1570. To: All (#1569)

- The fact that would-be Elites are using Global Warming to justify an agenda of global fascism doesn't change the fact that it's a real thing... But "science" has become so politicized that you really have to take all their assertions with a grain of salt. CO2 is an easy target, but doesn't hold-up to logic. The biosphere is essentially a global engine that maintains a CO2/O2 balance. Puny naked apes might be able to make that pendulum swing a little farther than it would have without them, but it's really kind of hubris to think that we could 'break' the system by feeding it a little more fuel than it would have had otherwise.

This is wrong.

CO2 = HEAT

At 400 ppm you can accurately say that 2 C over the 1760 Baseline has been reached.

And burning 1.2 Trillion BBLs and putting that into the atmosphere will do the trick.

And the Climate you see now is from the 1990's inputs.... :twisted: :? 8-)

We've got months to collapse our emissions by 60% and that %age rises by the week now, until we can do 100% immediately and it will have no effect.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   7:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1571. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#29. To: nolu chan (#11)

And what now prevents the Federal government from offering you the option of buying a buggy whip or of paying a tax for belonging to that class of people who do not own a buggy whip?

And this is important.

The Federal gov't is offering ZERO options.

And forcing a tax.

Again, and time is no factor here, the Ability of the USSA to tax is rooted in the Illegally ratified 16th Amendment which was then used to create the illegal Federal Reserve Corporation.

And good luck on that IRS enforcement...this will get intertwined with FICA & SS....there will be no other way to collect.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-04 7:55:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #30. To: All (#29)

And $350 per month is the Min that people are paying.

With 50 Million on Food Stamps

and

100 million either un or under employed.

So let's say, for shi ts and giggles, $200 the month is the Min buy in.

There is ZERO way that the aformentioned pop has $2400 the year to pay....

while at the same time,

the USSA is putting ZERO limits on the Costs of Medical Health Care.

This dog won't hunt.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   8:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1572. To: redleghunter (#1565)

To: mcgowanjm, Liberator, A K A Stone

Three things that LF likes to avoid now:

Market Manipulation....

Peak Oil.....

Climate Change...

You are forgetting Muslim manipulation. You seem to forget about that here in the padded room:

Power over Religion always.

And the implication is that Muslims are causing all the above.

While TOTALLY not the Israelis....

That's ignorance.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   8:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1573. To: redleghunter, All (#1572)

And just exactly when did you realize that muslims who claim jesus as a prophet were the lesser religion to Jews who say Jesus never even existed....;}

Around 9/11 maybe....LMFAO....

Market Manipulation Climate change and Peak Oil.

LIeBor EIA 6 C rise by 2035 USSA Oil Consumption drops by 4 MMBD since Sep 2011....;}

NOTE:

Fewer cartoons....more facts.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   8:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1574. To: redleghunter, SJN, All (#1564)

Really? Hey SJN, jimmy thinks there are no women here at LF.

Waiting for that.

The Fact that I couldn't tell and SJN has

1) Made NO ATTEMPT to clarify

while

2) sounding EXACTLY like a woman hating Fundy....

I rest my case.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   8:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1575. To: All (#1574)

This US summer is 'what global warming looks like' By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP, July 3, 2012 news-general-20120703-US.SCI.Weird.Weather

A tree sitting atop a vehicle offers free firewood in Falls Church, Va., Mon...

WASHINGTON — If you want a glimpse of some of the worst of global warming, scientists suggest taking a look at U.S. weather in recent weeks. Horrendous wildfires. Oppressive heat waves. Devastating droughts. Flooding from giant deluges. And a powerful freak wind storm called a derecho. These are the kinds of extremes climate scientists have predicted will come with climate change, although it's far too early to say that is the cause.

although it's far too early to say that is the cause.

although it's far too early to say that is the cause.

although it's far too early to say that is the cause.

EIA says 6 C rise by 2035 on current emissions track.

So when does WaPo think will be a good time to say that Climate Change is the cause.

When Hoover dam stops producing electricity in 2017?

LMFAO....8D

This is Planet Hell.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-04   8:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1576. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#440. To: All (#0)

by John Glaser, July 04, 2012

Another Afghan soldier has shot and wounded five US soldiers in eastern Afghanistan on Tuesday, in the latest sign that the training mission in Afghanistan is an utter failure.

The attack took place at a NATI base in Wardak province, east of Kabul. The NATO officials called these “green-on-blue” attacks, where Afghans in the police or army attack their supposedly allied international forces. More than 20 foreign personnel have been killed in such shootings in Afghanistan this year."

Betting it's worse.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-05 9:28:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #441. To: Robin, All (#440) (Edited)

Now wait a minute.....

Latest: 191 enemy personnel killed and wounded in Gulistan, 25 vehicles destroyed Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Thursday, 15 Sya'ban 1433 Thursday, 05 July 2012 10:23

FARAH, Jul. 04 – 138 hireling troops and governmental officials have been killed, 35 others wounded as well as 25 enemy vehicles and tanks eliminated in IED, rocket and armed attacks over the past few days in Gulistan district where the enemy has mounted an offensive, according to officials reporting from Farah province.

Reports add that a heavy clash was taking place between Mujahideen and hireling ANA in the area last night when airpower of foreign troops carried out airstrikes in the battle ground and adjacent areas, hitting the hirelings and killing 80 enemy personnel as well as wounding countless others, officials in charge from the district said adding that 15 Mujahideen were also martyred (may Allah grant them the highest ranks in Jannah) and 6 others were injured.

It is said that despite the large scale enemy operation and heavy airstrikes for the past few days, they still have not managed to reach the district center."

191 ANA killed is a MAJOR battle.

And still taking place.

And the Offensive has still not reached it's target?

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-05 9:33:25 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-05   9:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1577. To: All (#1576)

Yes, children, before "wealth creators" and other masters of the universe were held up as worthy models for their 80-hour weeks and unstinting dedication to squeezing every single minute ever more tightly for a few more bucks -- before those of us who serve the creators and masters were supposed to be supinely grateful for working ever harder and longer to swell the bosses' private coffers -- there once existed the notion that there might actually be more to human life than the treadmill and the ant hill. And that we might even use the amazing technological advances that our species has produced to make life easier, richer, deeper, more engaging and humane for all of us.

All of this is long gone now, of course. As Owen Hatherly notes in the Guardian, both Right and Left have combined, for many decades, to advance the idea that pointless labor is our lot, and that we should be happy with it:"

As Religion can do Nothing to ease Human Suffering, Religion now must radically change into something else.

Why does Royalty exist?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-05   9:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1578. To: A K A Stone (#0)

When does that withdrawal start?

And I'm thinkin' that we might have maybe 8 Chinooks left in the Afghans.

And where will those 7 C 130's be comin' from that Obama is sending to the US Forest Service?....;}

#442. To: All (#0)

You know, if I was the USSA, I'd be hiring the Taliban to defend us.

They're good....;}

* Contact us.....;}

22 invaders killed as enemy’s Chinook helicopter shot down

Zabihullah Mujahid

Thursday, 15 Sya'ban 1433 Thursday, 05 July 2012 11:53

imge PAKTIKA, July 05 – A US-Nato helicopter was brought down in Paktika province on Thursday

A Mujahideen official said that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate shot the helicopter as it was about to airlift a container in Gomal district of

Paktika province at about 10:00 a.m. today causing the helicopter to fall down and setting it on fire, adding that as many as 22 US-NATO invaders were killed in the struck helicopter.

Shortly afterwards, a larger number of the enemy’s vehicles and tanks approached the site and surrounded it.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-05 11:01:38 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-05   11:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1579. To: mcgowanjm (#1573)

And just exactly when did you realize that muslims who claim jesus as a prophet were the lesser religion to Jews who say Jesus never even existed....;}

Around 9/11 maybe....LMFAO....

So you think the Muslims were just the pawns of the global masters on Wall Street?

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-05   16:17:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1580. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#444. To: All (#0) (Edited)

There are several peaks that I'm looking forward to:

Peak Monsanto

Peak Corporation

Peak Military

Peak Banker

Peak Nuclear

Peak GMO

Peak Neonicotoid

Peak Glyphosate

Peak Monsanto

But I repeat myself.....;}

" During critical first trimester development a human is no bigger than an insect so there is every reason to believe that pesticides could wreak havoc with the developing brain of a human embryo. But human embryos aren’t out in corn fields being sprayed with insecticides, are they? A recent study showed that every human tested had the world’s best-selling pesticide, Roundup, detectable in their urine at concentrations between five and twenty times the level considered safe for drinking water.xvi

The most alarming part of the neonicotinoid story is that governments and the EU to date are content to take little or no precautionary steps to stop even suspected contamination from neonicotinoids pending through long-term tests that would determine finally if they are as dangerous as considerable and growing scientific evidence says.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-06 7:38:59 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   7:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1581. To: A K A Stone (#0)

hipcrime.blogspot.com/201...dance-day-all-of-our.html

The wealthy tell us social security, retirement and health care are "unaffordable" while lining up with hat in hand for taxpayer-funded subsidies and bailouts. They call themselves "job creators" but are constantly looking for ways to eliminate jobs. Allocation of vital resources is largely dependant upon their largess, and all our arts are dependant on droppings from the table. They bankroll think-tanks, media outlets and publishing houses to disseminate their opinions and further their own agenda. They establish university chairs and sit on the boards of major public institutions. These pompous egotists are plastered on billboards and magazine covers, and they pen screeds purporting to know how to fix everything from our foreign policy to our educational system. They have an unshakable belief that they earned everything through their own superiority no matter what their background, and the rest of us must constantly bow and scrape to these masters of the universe.

Government has become a kleptocracy and a meal ticket for corrupt bureaucrats who guard their protected fiefdoms and constantly seek to widen their scope of authority to justify budget increases and feather their own nests. Small businesses are regulated out of existence by nuisance regulations while cronies are able to use government guarantees and largess to squeeze out competition and rig markets in their favor. Rich and poor alike get handouts while the productive middle class are used as tax donkeys. Old people demand their entitlements while the nation eats its seed corn.

Politics has become a bribery bazaar where politicians spend all of their time raising funds for the next election cycle...."

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1582. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Forget Universal Healthcare – The U.S. Is Bust

But we can go to war anytime anywhere...;}

No.

Single Payer Medicare/VA for ALL is doable at anytime with whatever we have.

See Cuba for details.

But not to worry.

Climate change is here now.

Hoover Dam stops producing electricity by 2017.

IT will make humans, if not extinct, less than 400 millions.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1583. To: All (#1582)

The police have become internal militarized shock troops, cracking skulls for the elites and enforcing "protest free zones" all over the world. When they aren't beating and tear-gassing protesters or spying on their fellow citizens, they are engaged in various other acts of thuggery like shooting unarmed civilians, preventing recording of their activities and harassing the poor and minorities. Tickets and fines are written up for violating pointless regulations, and millions of dollars of taxpayer money are spent on stopping victimless crimes, even as serious crimes go unpunished and entire cities become "no-go" forbidden zones.

Churches have become downscale social clubs and incubators of reactionary politics for angry white rural Americans fearful of losing their privileges. Evangelical fundamentalist mullahs militate for a theocracy while raking in millions from their "flock." They obsess over homosexuality and abortion even as their congregations experience falling living standards. Sanctimonious preachers turn out to be closet homosexuals and the Catholic church pays millions of dollars to the victims of its pedophile priests when it isn't busy hushing up the scandal.

Durable goods are made in Chinese sweatshops as cheaply as possible.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1584. To: All (#1583)

Peak Amerikan...;}

" The American public are spoiled brats, demanding the best of everything but refusing to pay for it. They believe they live in the best country on earth despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Vindictive, war-mongering, ignorant and xenophobic, they are mollycoddled and doted on by toadying politicians and corporations who constantly tell them how great they are, even though most of them are morbidly obese, gullible, barely literate, beer-swilling cretins, singularly unable to do even the simplest things for themselves. Americans look like side-show freaks festooned with piercings and tattoos and clad in garish and ill-fitting clown costumes, behaving like overgrown children in adult bodies.This clueless population is in denial and elect only “leaders” will tell them what they want to hear. Comfort and distraction are the highest goals.

When will we finally admit that modern American society is pretty much just one giant clusterfuck?

Oh, and I know it's a sin to criticize the perfect military we're all supposed to worship, but when was the last time the military actually defended the homeland of the United States, World War Two? Since then its seems we've been waging wars on the other side of the planet, conveniently often in oil-rich countries. Who is paying for our hundreds of military bases around the world, and what exactly do the American public get for their money besides lunatics trying to blow them up? Do we really need to spend more than the rest of the world combined? The military waged preemptive war on two countries that did not attack us while failing to prevent a mass slaughter in our own country. And I seem to recall scandal after scandal in recent years, from waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay, to posing with hooded prisoners at Abu Ghraib, to the Pat Tillman coverup, to urinating on corpses, to cutting off fingers and ears as trophies, to employing private Blackwater mercenaries, to no-bid contracts costing taxpayers billions, to advocating "total war" with Islam. And now drones are flying over the world's hotspots blowing up wedding parties and terminating American citizens without trial. No, I'm sorry, they are not blameless.

And before you accuse me of "hating the troops" what about the coverups of Gulf War syndrome? What about not being allowed to take photos of body bags? What about being too cheap to buy adequate body armor for combat troops? What about the treatment of patients at Walter Reed Veteran's hospital? What about the military suicides? What about politicians constantly trying to cut funding for caring for wounded veterans while voting for weapons systems even the military doesn't want? Loving war is not honoring the troops. Our institutions have failed them too.

I could go on.

071012.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1585. To: redleghunter (#1579)

So you think the Muslims were just the pawns of the global masters on Wall Street?

Every Religion is a drug....;}

See Muslim Brotherhood Zionism CIA for details.

And a BTW:

global masters = the Top 400 RtG people.

Forbes 400 gets most of 'em.

Why does royalty exist?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1586. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#449. To: Robin (#446)

I remember Beta Testing Round Up on our farm.

Even then we knew it was so toxic that we used a 'wax bar' positioned in front of the tractor to just brush over the weeds missing the money crop just inches below.

Killed everything it touched.

Which should be it's logo today.

Kills everything it touches...Round Up...by Monsanto.

1992 introduced in marriage with GMO's.

Bees begin Die Off.

Good thing Humans will be gone by 2025....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-06 8:45:56 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   8:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1587. To: mcgowanjm (#1586)

Kills everything it touches...Round Up...by Monsanto.

Unfortunately, it's very popular and I believe the best selling weed killer.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-06   9:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1588. To: A K A Stone (#0)

http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/2012/07/wide-gate-to-damnation.html

The Arctic leads the way.

We've got maybe five more good years to fuck up the planet as much as we can....

go for it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   9:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1589. To: Fred Mertz (#1587)

Unfortunately, it's very popular and I believe the best selling weed killer.

O yeah.

Everything humans do alot of is popular.

We've got maybe 5 more years to enjoy doing these popular things...;}

I just came in from talking to the Electric Co Op guy.

He came because they're spraying everything under the lines.

We told the Co Op we didn't want them to spray up to our house.

a compromise we said they could go from about 300 ft away to the road.

They're of course using Round Up.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   9:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1590. To: All (#1589)

Maybe not 5 years...;}

2014-15

6. I expect total sea ice loss will occur during summer in either 2014 or 2015. By this time I expect agricultural output to have declined to a point where food supplies are inadequate and famine and conflict are rife. Farmers will not know what to plant or when and even acquiring seed from other climatic regions may be problematic.

7. Social conditions will be comparable to the Holomodor. People will try to eat anything and everything - earthworms, insects, each other - even in some cases their own children. Nation states will fragment and reform into smaller and increasingly violent competitive groups fighting over rapidly diminishing resources. Maintaining the supply chains required for the operation of modern technology including agriculture will be largely impossible.

8. If we see widespread war before nation states fragment there is a possibility of the use of nuclear and genetically enhanced biological weaponry. Whether through war or famine the human population will be in freefall.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   9:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1591. To: All (#1590)

2014 2015

the human population will be in freefall.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   9:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1592. To: A K A Stone (#0)

2016+

9. The climate will continue to worsen as more heat flows into the system and this will become the new threat to survivors as population density becomes too low to sustain conflict. Most survivors will be eliminated, leaving the human race on the brink of extinction. A majority of the planet will cease to be habitable. The deserts will greatly expand, though this will help balance the planets thermal budget. Very few people will live to see the Arctic sea ice entirely gone throughout the year or the ruined cities drowned in the rising sea.

10. Assuming the collapse is as rapid and severe as I expect – I would expect the human population to collapse below the new carrying capacity of the planet and therefore for resource pressure to lighten once a sufficient number of people die (granted with few useful resources left and uncertainty about precisely which regions would be good prospects).

Maybe my '2017 Hoover Dam stops producing electricity' statement was optimistic....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-06 9:56:06 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-06   9:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1593. To: mcgowanjm (#1589)

I just came in from talking to the Electric Co Op guy.

He came because they're spraying everything under the lines.

My neighbor says they spray with an Agent Orange-type of spray.

Said neighbor is an Agent Orange victim from a combat unit in Vietnam and on 100 percent disability. He's active and appears healthy but he's not.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-06   10:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1594. To: mcgowanjm (#1585)

Enjoying the temps in central Texas lately. 80s/90s during the day, nice weather for this time of year.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-06   14:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1595. To: redleghunter (#1594)

High 70's, low 80's here in S.Cal.

Yeah, it's all about the "glow-bull warming," don'tcha know.........

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-07-06   14:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1596. To: Fred Mertz (#1593)

My neighbor says they spray with an Agent Orange-type of spray.

Said neighbor is an Agent Orange victim from a combat unit in Vietnam and on 100 percent disability. He's active and appears healthy but he's not.

Agent orange was a DIOXIN based defoliant.

There are absolutely no DIOXIN based defoliants currently approved for use in the USA.

NONE.

Nor have there been for almost a generation.

Your neighbor is 100% WRONG about this matter.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-06   15:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1597. To: Mad Dog (#1596)

Your neighbor is 100% WRONG about this matter.

I'll pass that on when I next see him. He's at the lake this weekend.

Chemistry was never my strong subject, in fact, it was my worst and most hated subject.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-06   15:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1598. To: Fred Mertz (#1597)

.

I'm telling you this so that you can reassure the man.

He and the others who were exposed to agent orange DID make a difference.

DIOXIN is GONE because of their sacrifices.

Btw Fred dioxins were used in many other ways.

For example the final PAs in my radars were filled with an insulating oil that was almost pure dioxins.

The doors to them were designed that you could NOT open them without getting a BATH in gallons of that oil, because they wanted to make sure the oil was changed every time the PAs were accessed. Every six months or so we took dioxin baths. But no settlement for us, (there were likely fewer than 5,000 of us ever to hold our rate and do that job) .

I meant your neighbor no disrespect, quite the contrary.

Please just tell him because of abuses of agent orange use, dioxin is GONE in the USA and it's NOT coming back.

If you wouldn't mind, please give him my personal thanks for his service Fred.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-06   16:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1599. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Drought conditions are present in 56 percent of the continental U.S., according to the weekly Drought Monitor. That's the most in the 12 years that the data have been compiled, topping the previous record of 55 percent set on Aug. 26, 2003. It's also up five percentage points from the previous week.

USSA Gov't stats.

Doesn't bode well for ethanol production does it?

The Euro-zone is just as far away from Euro-bonds, Euro-reform, Euro-conservation and Euro-salvation as it was two weeks ago, Merkel is just as belligerent, the region is just as broke and dependent upon external sources of both credit and fuel as it was two weeks ago … certainly none of these problems apply to China, right?

http://www.economic-undertow.com...orld-is-saved-now-what-2/

The Downward Spiral tightens and accelerates....thinking of Jim McKay, Dick Button now and French/Russian judges....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1600. To: Fred, Mad Dog, All (#1596)

Agent orange was a DIOXIN based defoliant.

There are absolutely no DIOXIN based defoliants currently approved for use in the USA.

NONE.

Nor have there been for almost a generation.

Your neighbor is 100% WRONG about this matter.

NONE.

Nor have there been for almost a generation.

Your neighbor is 100% WRONG about this matter.

First, in a T/F test, WHENEVER you encounter an

ALL INCLUSIVE statement, just like the one above, the answer is ALWAYS

FALSE

Test taking 101.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1601. To: All (#1600) (Edited)

Now. Where was I.....;}

O Yeah!

Whenever plastic and or chlorine is burned

DIOXIN

is produced.

We have as much ability to get rid of DIOXIN as we do PLUTONIUM.

There is no DIOXIN cycle....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1602. To: All (#1601)

1,4-Dioxin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,4-Dioxin

1,4-Dioxin (also referred as dioxin or p-dioxin) is a heterocyclic, organic, antiaromatic compound with the chemical formula C4H4O2. ... Famous PCDD exposure cases include Agent Orange produced by MONSANTO sprayed over vegetation ...

"C.H. Boehringer Sohn discovered a way to minimize the

DIOXIN

content in a substance by keeping down the temperature in the autoclave [during manufacture]. . . . Dow, Monsanto, and Diamond Shamrock were able to make a batch of Agent Orange in about forty-five minutes, but if they'd lowered the temperatures, it would have taken a lot longer-- possibly twelve hours-- to make the same batch of herbicide. By keeping the autoclave temperatures higher, they made it more quickly and for a lot cheaper. Dow and other manufacturers of Agent Orange ignored the safety precautions because they wanted to make Agent Orange more quickly, and they wanted to make more of it."[1]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1603. To: Fred Mertz, All (#1602)

Glyphosate only makes about 41% of the total pesticide. The rest is a combination of water and any combination of nearly 2,300 substances which could be added by the manufacturer but not listed on the label. The company claims that these chemicals are trade secrets.

polyethoxylated tallowamines

Canada To Declare Triclosan Toxic to Environment

(Beyond Pesticides, March 28, 2012)

DIOXIN is formed when ALL polymer/chlorine based insecticide/ herbicides are exposed to sun light....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1604. To: All (#1603)

You think it was an accident that Agent Orange was a descendant of GLYPHOSATE?

That the Intro of Round Up Ready Seed in 1992 corresponds

EXACTLY

with when bees began to die/disappear.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   7:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1605. To: All (#1604) (Edited)

Where I live we’ve had power outages, record high temps, buckling roads, and lack of rain. Yet the only response is to shrink government and cut taxes. As cuts continue, trust in government declines in a downward spiral that feeds on itself.

It’s getting pretty hard to hide the bad news. [b]Has anyone noticed that all those so-called "post-apocalyptic" prophecies are coming true?"

hipcrime.blogspot.com/2012/07/doom-or-denial.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-07   9:42:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1606. To: Mad Dog (#1598)

I meant your neighbor no disrespect, quite the contrary.

He's a silver star recipient and he wasn't a commissioned officer. I have a great deal of respect for him.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-07   10:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1607. To: mcgowanjm (#1600)

.

Hey mctoejam, don't ping me with your mindless drivel.

I have no interest in your insane and inane bullshit jimmy boy.

IF you should accidently ever actually speak some truth or fact I'll read about it in the national news. /S

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-07   15:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1608. To: Fred Mertz (#1606)

I meant your neighbor no disrespect, quite the contrary.

He's a silver star recipient and he wasn't a commissioned officer. I have a great deal of respect for him.

As you, and we ALL, well should Fred.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-07   15:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1609. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#464. To: All (#0)

After losing market share Sany responded by unlocking GPS disablement that are normally included in vendor finance deals and removing the 20% deposit requirement on new machinery .

As China slows,

As China slows, its construction equipment makers have been accelerating production – based on the simple idea that long-term survival can be ensured by getting big, fast.

....plan of raising huge bank loans of up to 140 billion yuan (US$22.2 billion) , this seems an extraordinary amount of debt to raise for as yet an unstated purpose.

who with that heavy machinery available built one of those ghost cities you keep hearing about (if you follow this Google map link you can explore the scale of these cities for yourself)

This is economic madness on a scale never before seen in history and it wont end well for anyone."

www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/

ALL of the Above is written about extensively in Manias, Panics, and Crashes is a durable guide to meditation: wise, witty, and ... after reading Charles MacKay's classic, Memoirs of Extraordinary Delusions ...

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-08 9:36:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #465. To: All (#464)

Argentina announces Capitol Controls on the US $.

Reasons for having dollars. Savings not one of those reasons.

According to Argentina....;}

# Argentina: it's official, no more dollars! | beyondbrics blogs.ft.com › markets

1 day ago – Latin America & Caribbean ... The Argentine government formally announced on Thursday that its ... will no longer be able to convert their savings from pesos to dollars, ... “People doing these transactions will have to make the payments in ... Tags: Argentina peso, Argentina-dollar, capital controls, foreign ...

Capital controls in Argentina www.goldismoney2.com/show...pital-controls...Argent...

1 post - 1 author - yesterday The Argentine Central Bank announced on Thursday it will officially ... The latest move banning the purchase of dollars for savings is an ... In reality since last June 14, it was impossible to legally purchase US dollars for savings since no ... The central bank said banks will have to put 5% of their total private ...

A Bronx Tale:

Neighbor hood Wise Guy to Idiot Bar Crashing Bikers:

'I'm askin' youse to leave now.'

Idiots ignore warning. Proceed to start trashing bar.

Wise Guy goes and locks the door.

Wise Guy: 'Youse can't leave now.'

;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-08 9:41:44 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-08   9:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1610. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Of course, it remains quite unclear just how much “wealth” is left anywhere under the conditions of extreme overshoot, and equally unclear where a Pigman should go to escape the oncoming Capital Controls likely to spring up everywhere.

The carefree life of Simon Black jetting around the world First Class, holding multiple passports and not paying Taxes in ANY jusrisdiction is coming to a close here, but Simon doesn’t want to see this end. He really doesn’t want to farm the 1100 Acres he bought in Chile, and if he HAS to move there permanently he likely hopes Da Chilean Goobermint will recognize his Title and will allow him to run his Estate as a Feudal Kingdom, hiring poor Chilean Peasants to plow HIS land.

The Capital Controls are coming, and every Pigman website from Zero Hedge to the Daily Capitalist will complain about them and tell you how horrible they are. They sure are horrible…for PIGMEN! They can’t go and jump ship with all the MONEY when the Titanic goes down.

RE

What's not understood, except by the very few (ALWAYS and EVERYTIME in the End Game PREVIEW of Panics & Mania's :twisted: ) is that there WILL be a Debt Jubilee.

IT can be controlled and doled out, at FIRST, but then the Collapse Continuum is reached and you find yourself behind the curve. THEN, CREDIT is what you hold in your hand when deciding each and every debt.

Printing Money to catch up is impossible.

Deflation....071012.

www.doomsteaddiner.org/blog/2012 ... -controls/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-08   10:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1611. To: Mad Dog, All (#1607)

You stupid fuck.

The message wasn't for you.....;}

You live in a fairy tale world of 'easy' magic that's about to take a chunk outta your fat ass....;}

And you come on my thread and start your rabid barking.....

I'll pull your God Damn chain EVERY fuckin' time.....;}

Sincerely

Mister Jimmie.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-08   10:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1612. To: All (#1610)

And The Number One issue of Collapse is that Most Everyone thinks that if they don't hear about it, It ain't happenin....

which is why the Truth Replaced by Silence works (sorta until it don't;) and is evil....

And when Electricity fails, you're all of a sudden in 1873...

and No one will know you're there.

1. Some areas still without power service

Parkersburg News‎ - 1 day ago ... it has been a week and one day since the derecho storm ripped through the Mid-Ohio Valley, thousands are still without power. ... By JEFFREY SAULTON (jsaulton@newsandsentinel.com) , Parkersburg News and Sentinel ...

1. Thousands still without power MyFox Washington DC‎ - 3 days ago 2. Tens of thousands still without electricity through July 4 WBAL Baltimore‎ - 3 days ago

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-08   11:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1613. To: Zesta, A K A Stone (#0)

You're definitely not going to understand this....;}

'Nature has the right to exist'

Posted by Gerry Canavan

Art. 1. Nature or Pachamama, where life is reproduced and exists, has the right to exist, persist, maintain and regenerate its vital cycles, structure, functions and its processes in evolution.

Every person, people, community or nationality, will be able to demand the recognitions of rights for nature before the public organisms. The application and interpretation of these rights will follow the related principles established in the Constitution.

With the public ratification of its new constitution last week, Ecuador has for the first time anywhere in history granted inalienable rights to nature. The new constitution also includes strict egalitarian provisions about food production, water access, and protection for indigenous peoples and uncontacted tribes.

As the Guardian link makes clear, this unprecedented act stems in part from Ecuador's custodianship of the Galápagos Islands and in part from its long history of abuse at the hands of multinational corporations:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-08   21:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1614. To: Zesta, A K A Stone (#0)

'I see lots of dead people.'

"The problem here we are faced with is that ONGOING are HIGH CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. This is not just limited to such outstanding and obvious Crimes like the Macondo Well Blowout in the GOM or FUK-U-Shima Fiasco, which is clearly a result of EXTREME levels of corruption between both Goobermint and Private Industry in Japan. It extends to the AUSTERITY being forced down the throats of J6Ps all over the world as their Pensions are cut and current workers are laid off, all to SAVE THE BANKSTERS! Bond Holders MUST be preserved at ALL COSTS! Such costs of course include Greek Senior Citizens committing Suicide because they see their future Eating out of Dumpsters."

http://www.doomsteaddiner.org/blog/2012/07/08/hang-em-high/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   7:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1615. To: Zesta, A K A Stone, All (#1614) (Edited)

It extends to the continuing POISOINING of the Food Supply by Monsanto and other corporations with GMO Foods. It extends into the pharmaceutical industry with Mercury based Vaccines. It extends into the Banking Industry with faulty MERS Titles and Foreclosures. It extends into the highest tiers of Goobermint, where Politicians are literally paid MILLIONS to vote in the interest of Lobbies rather than their constituencies. These Crimes Against Humanity are ONGOING, and they are ALREADY taking thousands if not Million of lives."

www.doomsteaddiner.org/blog/2012/07/08/hang-em-high/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   7:12:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1616. To: Zesta, A K A Stone (#0)

11 inches in 3 hours....Climate Change is here....;}

Death toll of Russian flood rises to 171

Local people walk along a flooded street in the southern Russian town of Krymsk on July 8, 2012. Mon Jul 9, 2012 2:8AM GMT 0 At least 171 people have been killed in devastating floods in the Black Sea region of southern Russia in the worst natural disaster to hit the region in decades.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   7:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1617. To: Zesta, A K A Stone (#0)

www.theoilage.com/post62004.html#p62004

When you want to learn about Peak Oil.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   8:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1618. To: All (#1617)

3.bp.blogspot.com/-uv8R9t.../s640/continuumsocial.PNG

LIeBOR

In fact, the connections apparent across the piece of this rapidly developing scandal suggest that nobody ‘saved the banking system’ in 2008: key players intimately involved in the sector simply lied about the cost of borrowing….using a fraud both well-established and near universal by then.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   8:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1619. To: All (#1618)

Even when non-oil products are considered, total liquids have barely budged, up just 3.5 percent for the entire period from 2005 to 2011. Even if these liquids were interchangeable with oil, they would be making very little headway in substituting for it.

But because few of the non-oil products now being lumped in with oil supplies are genuine substitutes and the ones that are have serious limitations on the volume they could provide, we should consider the truth about oil.

Its supply is stagnant which accounts for the record prices of recent years. And, the promise that high prices would bring on copious new supplies has proven to be nothing more than wishful thinking. The limitations on oil supplies are now upon us. The salient issue is the rate of production, not the supposedly huge resources that optimists may conjure up in their imaginations.

How much oil you can get out out of the ground on a daily basis is what counts, and it's getting harder and harder to extract the amount of oil we desire from the Earth's crust each day. We extracted the easy stuff first.

We cannot now expect to extract the difficult stuff at the same high rates as the easy stuff. And, we cannot expect that total percentage recoveries from the smaller, more complex and challenging reservoirs which we are now forced to exploit will be as high as those we've gotten from large, simple, straightforward reservoirs in the past.

http://theautomaticearth.org

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   8:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1620. To: Zesta, A K A Stone (#0)

The world has over a thousand multibillionaires. These people conspire with each other to expand free trade, increase government debts and eliminate capital from banking systems. All reforms must pass their inspection and anything curbing their astronomical accumulation of wealth is nixed whereas anything that increases it is shoved forwards. The result is an international banking collapse, a government debt crisis in nearly all first world countries and increasing violence at the bottom of society.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   9:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1621. To: All (#1620)

Very few of those living in the old paradigm of consumption, debt, and 40-hour work weeks will be able to maintain this lifestyle over the coming decade.

Nearly four years after the financial collapse of 2008 the majority of global economic indicators in America, Europe and China are suggesting that the situation has worsened, not moved into a recovery phase. What we’ve seen so far in terms of the vaporization of wealth, the destruction of jobs and the impoverishment of millions of once middle-class families is but the opening salvo in a world-wide depression that is sure to change the presumptions we have about global economic and geo-political stability.

This is only the beginning.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   9:23:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1622. To: mcgowanjm (#1621)

What is the timetable for the evacuation of Florida. You said it was going to be evacuated and millions would die.

You just blow a lot of smoke.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-09   9:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1623. To: Zesta, A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

emsnews.wordpress.com/201...arped-due-to-rich-elites/

All reforms must pass their inspection and anything curbing their astronomical accumulation of wealth is nixed whereas anything that increases it is shoved forwards. The result is an international banking collapse, a government debt crisis in nearly all first world countries and increasing violence at the bottom of society.

The US in particular has its head buried in the sand and this is partially the fault of the media owners who like things kept this way. For example, the ongoing news about how crummy our occupation of Afghanistan is going is usually tiny headlines on the back pages like today’s story: NATO confirms 6 troops killed in roadside bombing Sunday in Afghanistan were Americans.

All the pro-US military speeches, all the flag waving, all the pretend interest in our troops is a false front. The US government’s operational owners, the rich, don’t give a (shit). Indeed, they studiously ignore the dead and the mental deterioration of the troops as they slowly are ground down by repeated cycles patrolling hostile Muslim territories.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   9:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1624. To: A K A Stone (#1622)

What is the timetable for the evacuation of Florida.

And thank you. Be right back.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   9:53:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1625. To: A K A Stone (#1622) (Edited)

You just blow a lot of smoke.

And your world is collapsing.....;}

Nothing's been fixed since 2007.

"AP: 2 years later, fish sick near BP disaster -- Sores, parasitic infections, gashes, mysterious black streaks -- Fish, coral, seaweed, dolphins, mangroves, more April 20th, 2012 at 08:31 AM

11 1 Comments Confirmed BP drilled 3 wells - 3 distinct wellheads at Macondo Site. Mon May 28, 2012 12:40 AM EDT

It is beyond doubt this was a planned disaster. The evidence speak for themselves. Willful Ignorance has been the biggest single contributor to the downfall of past civilisations.

Continue reading this entry ... bp, demolition, macondo, nuke, detonation, gom, gulf-oil-spill, 3-wells 11 3 Comments CONFIRMED wellhead of the 3rd illegal well in doctored ROV video Sun May 27, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

Your Masters have succeeded in slowing justice to a crawl and doing Media Blackouts on the rest

and that makes you happy.

Super....Stay Ignorant and blissful for the little while longer, A K....maybe some bible study now....LMFAO

"11 1 Comments Confirmed BP drilled 3 wells - 3 distinct wellheads at Macondo Site. Mon May 28, 2012 12:40 AM EDT

It is beyond doubt this was a planned disaster. The evidence speak for themselves. Willful Ignorance has been the biggest single contributor to the downfall of past civilisations.

Continue reading this entry ...

Imagine this is your Master's World......;}

Now THAT"S blowing smoke.....BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   10:05:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1626. To: A K A Stone (#1622) (Edited)

You said it was going to be evacuated and millions would die.

But then I found out that the USSA does not do evacs.

According to the website Marine Traffic, the Holiday, flying under the American flag, departed out of Port Fourchon and arrived at a destination listed as “MC 252" (the abbreviation for the location of the Macondo Prospect) on Nov. 5 at 9:00 a.m. (see file photo below).

MarineTraffic.com

My guess is the cost per day of operating a fleet of nine vessels like this has to be in the seven-figure range. You have to wonder what kind of alarming subsea scenario would demand that kind of expenditure.

Here is a map of Schumaker’s flight path. You can see the Deepwater Horizon site, marked by the black square labeled DWH. The other black squares signify the vessels in the area (see link to Bonny Schumaker’s On Wings of Care website below for full report, photos and video).

About 4 million visitors came to the city last year, still down from the more than 8 million that visited pre-Katrina but significantly higher than the years immediately after the storm, according to city figures. Last year, the city scored $20 million from casino revenue, a sign that the casinos – which make up nearly half of the city’s budget – are rebounding.

It’s all relative, isn’t it? First of all, it’s barely a 50 percent comeback, and the story notes — as is fairly common with all these gambling-powered comebacks — the poorest neighborhoods have been left behind. The more powerful issue, though, is that Biloxi’s tourism used to rooted in the natural splendor of its beaches. No more. Today, Gulf Coast tourism centers on folks spending their money indoors, in smoke-filled windowless gambling emporiums. Maybe that’s because we’ve already rolled the dice on the Gulf’s environment, and it came up snake eyes.

First of all, evidence is mounting that shrimping in the Gulf — once a lynchpin of the economy — has been decimated since the BP spill. Here’s the latest:

DELCAMBRE, LA (KTRK) — Two years after the BP oil spill, shrimpers in the Gulf of Mexico say things have changed for the worse. Some say they’re hesitant to take settlement money from BP because the catch has been so bad the last two years, and they’re not sure when it will get better.

From the docks of Chalmette to the quiet waters of Delcambre in Louisiana, business is slow.

GO on down and buy yourself a shrimper, A K....;}

The MS Estuary will never recover in our lifetimes.

Millions wishing they HAD left the Redneck Riviera.....;}

Too late now...

And FUck bp and anyone who apologizes for them....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   10:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1627. To: mcgowanjm (#1623)

All the pro-US military speeches, all the flag waving, all the pretend interest in our troops is a false front. The US government’s operational owners, the rich, don’t give a (shit). Indeed, they studiously ignore the dead and the mental deterioration of the troops as they slowly are ground down by repeated cycles patrolling hostile Muslim territories.

Miss Julie, while I may agree you about some things (this particular topic, for instance), there's still a gaping chasm in our beliefs. You appear to ignore the half of any equation that includes goodness.

Zesta  posted on  2012-07-09   10:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1628. To: Zesta (#1627)

It's Mister Jimmie to you, Asshole...;}

And until you call out Mad Dog on his bullshit I'll assume you're in onit.

Fuck off....;}

Until you show some respect....

sincerely

Mister Jimmie.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   11:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1629. To: A K A Stone (#1622) (Edited)

And Florida, Gawd I hope you live there...

Can't even get a handle on it's tuberculosis outbreak....;}

You expectin them to force a USSAbp solution?

Florida accused of concealing worst tuberculosis outbreak in 20 years By Muriel Kane Sunday, July 8, 2012 18:57 EDT

"“The high number of deaths in this outbreak emphasizes the need for vigilant active case finding, improved education about TB, and ongoing screening at all sites with outbreak cases,” the CDC report urged.

Now the strain has not only spread beyond the underclass but has started appearing in other parts of the state, including Miami.

The Republican legislator who was the motive force behind the health department consolidation, Rep. Matt Hudson, told the Post on Friday that he was unaware of both the outbreak and the CDC warning. When filled in by a reporter, he promised that as chairman of the House Health Care Appropriations Committee he would see to it that there was funding for TB treatment.

That treatment will not come cheap. The drugs to treat a simple case of TB cost only $500, but if a patient does not take them regularly and the strain becomes drug-resistant, the cost skyrockets to $275,000. And, as the Post notes, “the itinerant homeless, drug-addicted, mentally ill people at the core of the Jacksonville TB cluster are almost impossible to keep on their medications.”

Image by WPA Federal Art Project, Dis. 4 [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-09   11:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1630. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#1628)

To: Zesta It's Mister Jimmie to you, Asshole...;}

And until you call out Mad Dog on his bullshit I'll assume you're in onit.

Fuck off....;}

Until you show some respect....

sincerely

Mister Jimmie.

Okay. I realize you're simply a paranoid weirdo but I'll give you the respect you deserve. Mr. Asshole it is then.

Zesta  posted on  2012-07-09   12:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1631. To: Zesta (#1627)

Miss Julie

Jim has admitted to being a gay, black, muslim, gnostic pagan et al. I did not know he was a cross-dresser and used "Julie" when posting in drag.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-09   12:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1632. To: mcgowanjm (#1611)

"#1600. To: Fred, Mad Dog, All (#1596)"

You stupid fuck.

The message wasn't for you.....;}

"#1600. To: Fred, Mad Dog, All (#1596)"

LOL!

You STOOOOOOOPID FUCK jimma boy.

-.-

"#1600. To: Fred, Mad Dog, All (#1596)"

You just can't get anything correct, EVER, can you jimma boy?

"#1600. To: Fred, Mad Dog, All (#1596)"

.-.

The only thing that you can pull jimma boy is your pud.

Eat Shit and DIE jimma boy

Your own brother PISSES on YOU jimma boy, as do we ALL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-09   15:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1633. To: mcgowanjm, Zesta, A K A Stone (#1616)

11 inches in 3 hours....Climate Change is here....;}

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

It's called WEATHER jimma boy.

LOL!

WEATHER.

You're such an stooopid ass jimma boy.

You are THE useful idiot jimma boy.

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-09   15:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1634. To: A K A Stone (#1622)

Here's blowing smoke....the USSA at it's finest:

Re: PEAK OIL, TOTAL COLLAPSE, AND THE ROAD TO THE OLDUVAI 071012.... :twisted: :? 8-)

Today's the Day.

No movement is a Decision in and of itself.

Note that Silence is regularly replacing the truth now, so it could be some time for the Event to come out.

Example:

The Afghans today:

The USSA Version:

Three suicide bombers were on a motorcycle when their explosives went off in Kandahar, killing children [EPA]

At least 19 people are reported to have been killed and 39 others wounded in four bombing and shooting attacks in southern Afghanistan.

Officials said Gunmen begin attacking in three locations in Kandahar, in southern Afghanistan, on Monday, sparking a two-hour gunfight with Afghan security forces.

Bernard Smith reports from Kabul

"Fourteen attackers, some of them equipped with explosive suicide vests, were killed in today's gunfight with Afghan forces," Kandahar Governor Toryalai Weesa told a news conference after the gunfight ended.

The first attack began when three assailants - part of the group of 14 - triggered a bomb on a motorbike, killing themselves and two children.

The children were aged between eight and 12 and were playing at the time of the explosion, an official said.

Minutes later, several others attacked Kandahar's police headquarters and a private bank. Weesa said that three policemen were killed in attacks while 24 other, including 18 police officers, were wounded.

The shooting was followed by two explosions at the entrance of the headquarters. The Taliban militants took responsibility for attacks in Kandahar city.

The attack on the police headquarters, about three kilometres away, began with an explosion and continued for around an hour after at least three fighters took over a nearby school and fired on police, officials said.

Taliban Version:

Kandahar operation: 35 enemy troops and officials killed, 22 wounded Qari Yousuf Ahmadi

KANDAHAR, Jul. 10 – Heavy fighting took place in the various areas of Kandahar city on Monday initiated by martyrdom seeking Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate amid operation Al-Farooq, according to officials.

The attacks began at around 02:00 pm local time when a car bomb was set-off near the police headquarters, bringing down the adjacent wall and removing all the enemy barriers after which 4 martyrdom seekers (Abdul Ahad and Abdul Waddod both residents of Kandahar; Hafiz Haroon and Abdul Wali) armed with heavy and light arms as well as explosives vests stormed inside and began

attacking the enemy among whom Abdur Raziq, the provincial chief was also present initially. 22 special border police guards of the puppet provincial chief were killed while dozens of others were wounded.

While the fighting was ongoing inside the police HQ, 2 other martyrdom seekers (Hamid and Jan Muhammad) engaged reinforcement troops on Ciftan Mada intersection while 2 others in Shahidano intersection, triggering a deadly battle in which several enemy were killed, their weapons seized and used against other hireling troops. Then the Mujahideen took up positions Momtaaz Hotel and prevented the enemy from getting close to the police headquarters.

Mujahideen also engaged reinforcements in Hazrat Ji Baba by initially detonating a car bomb and then bringing them under armed attacks, killing and wounding several.

According to reliable information, a total of 35 enemy troops were killed in these operation and 22 others were wounded including key enemy officers whereas several enemy vehicles and tanks as well as buildings were destroyed and badly damaged.

It is worth mentioning that 4 Mujahideen (Lutfullah, Abdul Salam, Ameenullah and Abdul Sattar) were also martyred in the attacks while all the Mujahideen inside the police HQ embraced martyrdom at 09:00 pm (may Allah grant all of them the highest ranks in Jannah).[/quote]

Can you tell the difference? :twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   8:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1635. To: A K A Stone (#0)

One way or the other.....;}

Turkey pays for energy resource import from Iran in gold

9 July 2012, 14:16 (GMT+05:00)

Azerbaijan, Baku, July 9 / Trend A. Taghiyeva /

Turkey began paying for oil and gas imports from Iran in gold since March 2012, Turkish newspaper Vatan said today, citing an official source. According to the newspaper, that's why gold exports from Turkey to Iran have sharply increased since March 2012. For example, gold exports from Turkey to Iran in March-May 2012 amounted to 60 tons.

Turkey and Iran have chosen this method of payment for energy resources imported into Turkey from Iran after the SWIFT Company which was engaged in money transfer to Iran, stopped cooperating with Tehran in March this year. It is reported that Turkey imports eight million tons of oil and eight billion cubic meters of gas from Iran each year.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   9:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1636. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#480. To: Robin, All (#0)

Hottest 12 months in Human World History.

[quote] Just 18 percent of those polled name it as their top environmental concern.

The findings, along with follow-up interviews with some respondents, indicate that Washington’s decision to shelve action on climate policy means that the issue has receded — even though many people link recent dramatic weather events to global warming. And they may help explain why elected officials feel little pressure to impose curbs on greenhouse gas emissions.

“I really don’t give it a thought,” said Wendy Stewart, a 46-year-old bookkeeper in New York. Although she thinks warmer winters and summers are signs of climate change, she has noticed that political leaders don’t bring up the subject. “I’ve never heard them speak on global warming,” she said. “I’ve never heard them elaborate on it.”

Michael Joseph, 20, a student at the Wentworth Institute of Technology in Boston, said he sees extreme weather-related events such as the Colorado wildfires and the derecho storm that struck Washington on Friday as “having something to do with climate change.” But, like Stewart, he added, “I don’t really hear about it that much.”

See my recent post A Preview Of Things To Come?

There is Objective Reality, which scientists attempt to untangle for us. And then there is the Consensus Reality, which comprises the things which humans have agreed (consciously or not) to agree about. And far beyond that, somewhere within the confines of Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom, there is what Americans think is going on.

I'll jump to my conclusion today without preamble. The Human Experiment on Earth has failed. The jury is in, the verdict has been read. Planet Stupid? Bound for self-destruction? Guilty as charged on both counts. What does Objective Reality tell us in this case?

Mother Nature made a Big Mistake in the Pleistocene.[/quote]

www.declineoftheempire.co...planet-stupid-update.html

By 2025 CO2 hits 450 ppm in the Arctic. Probably sooner as acceleration via burning Amazon, SW USSA, methane fountaining begins in earnest.

The Arctic is ice free in the Summer.

If you're a Martian viewing Earth's polar changes, you realize that something Catastrophic is happening.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-10 10:00:07 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   10:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1637. To: Zesta (#1630)

Okay. I realize you're simply a paranoid weirdo but I'll give you the respect you deserve. Mr. Asshole it is then.

And you thinkin' you're a saint like your white cracker male buddy, Mad Dog?

Keep it comin.

I get a better fix on you with each post you make....

Sincerely

Mister Jimmie. Heavy on the Mister....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   10:07:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1638. To: All (#1637)

There is Objective Reality, which scientists attempt to untangle for us. And then there is the Consensus Reality, which comprises the things which humans have agreed (consciously or not) to agree about. And far beyond that, somewhere within the confines of Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom, there is what Americans think is going on.

I'll jump to my conclusion today without preamble. The Human Experiment on Earth has failed. The jury is in, the verdict has been read. Planet Stupid? Bound for self-destruction? Guilty as charged on both counts. What does Objective Reality tell us in this case?

Mother Nature made a Big Mistake in the Pleistocene.

For those of you who do indeed have a clue about what's going on here on Planet Stupid, you have my complete sympathy and my condolences. Do the best you can here. Don't forget to have a good time on those rare occasions when life presents you with the opportunity to do so. Carpe Diem!

Some of you have children. Some of you may want to apologize to them now. Why wait?

More compelling evidence that the Human Experiment has failed comes to us in the latest episode of ABC's This Week with host George Stephanopoulis. As you know, Americans think that global warming is a political issue which everybody gets to have an opinion about. A subset of them think there are easy political solutions to the problem. These latter blame the others for their denial and obstinacy.

Conservative pundit George Will, also known here on DOTE as The Bowtie Of Understanding, believes he knows why the United States has been plagued with extreme weather events this year. In a word—

Summer!

But do not focus solely on George's happy view. The entire roundtable discussion is too ridiculous to ridicule.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   10:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1639. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#2. To: Mekons5 (#0)

There is NO TRUST left.....;}

New York Fed Knew of Libor Problems in 2008; PFGBest Funds ... observer.com/.../new-york...or-problems-in-2008-pfg...

In February, PFGBest was fined $700000 for failing to notice a $174 million Forex-trading Ponzi scheme run by a client. What Duke did: North Carolina ...

US broker PFGBest freezes funds after founder's suicide attempt ... www.forexfactory.com › Forums › Broker Discussion

US broker PFGBest freezes funds after founder's suicide attempt Broker ... million forex-trading Ponzi scheme run by Trevor Cook in Minnesota, ... Get more discussion results

Guess Where ALL of THAT ponzi $$$ is.......

JPMORGAN.....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-10 10:33:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   10:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1640. To: A K A Stone (#0)

TWO really good comments on the DeclineoftheEmpire article:

That poll is amazing; 35% of respondents trust what scientists (presumably, climate scientists) say about global warming "a little or not at all". Only 26% trust what they say "completely or a lot".

Planet stupid, indeed.

Posted by: Mike Roberts | 07/09/2012 at 07:09 PM Anywhere But Here Is Better

This life starts with stupid pain (eviction via the stupidly narrow birth canal). It continues with stupid pain throughout childhood (from crying for more stupid milk to fighting stupid turf wars with parents and siblings to side-stepping truly stupid bullies in the school yard). Painful stupid adolescence kicks you in the balls or tries to barnstorm your vagina, depending on gender and orientation. Adulthood brings pain on a whole new stupid level (from unrequited stupid love to stupidly unfulfilled sexual desire to thwarted stupid ambition). Stupid middle age brings angst, disappointment and growing despair beyond any measure of stupidity. Then old age creeps up on you like a thief with any number of stupid additional dollops of pain (onset of organ failure, decrepitude, senility and spectating as your contemporaries peg it one by one).

Occasional microseconds of joy convince you not to fall accidentally under a train, such as a particularly fine orgasm or a slice of warm chocolate fudge cake or listening to the Ozric Tentacles on headphones in a darkened room. (I recommend the latter as an instant brain repair should you accidentally catch more than five seconds of imbecilic Fox News while channel hopping.)

Yes, I would add it all up and come to the same conclusion as you have Dave, albeit from a slightly different direction. It's just plain stupid, this thing called human life. The pain it inflicts on stupidly sentient us just ain't worth it. And if there was an almighty god in whose image we were made, I'd have just one message to deliver at those pearly gates, en route to my preferred final destination called Oblivion.

"God," I'd intone, calm as a dead parrot in a comedy sketch, "you're fired."

MY EDIT:

The above is EXACTLY why HEAVEN &HELL are here & right now.

And Neither is a Permanent condition unless you WILL IT....;}

Posted by: Anywhere But Here Is Better | 07/09/2012 at 08:29 PM T E Cho

It's gettin worser faster now ...

There WILL be an AHA point of realization, a tipping point of ' wow, this really is for real ' . What will be the reaction then? There's got to be some historical precedents. Perhaps most of humanity is in the 'denial' stage of denial-> anger -> depression -> acceptance . The anger is next, what will that be like?

The predictions are wars over water, ESP when a country dams up rivers for their own use, depriving downstream countries of water. African govts damming the Nile, India and Pakistan,Bangladesh, to name 2 areas ripe for conflict.

And this doesnt count the other looming disasters Dave has detailed, ocean acidification, methane from arctic regions, economies worsening, political polarization, obesity/health epidemics, middle class powerlessness, etc. Etc. And water is need for food irrigation, wait till that hits the fan. All the while floods of refugees.

It's beginning to look like an Armageddon, a disaster of biblical proportions, 'myth' becomes reality.

Probably before the end of next year there'll be so much bad news, Dave won't even be able to keep up. He's practically having difficulty now, as he has hinted at. An embarrassment of riches of bad news. No disrespect intended.

So the focus will shift from what will the next 20-40 years look like to what will the next 5 - 15 years look like. Or a shorter time frame even. And the focus will keep getting shorter and shorter.

My $0.02 . But when the US military/ intelligence briefings/predictions begin to sound like something from Revelation, you know we are in for one hell of a ride.

It jus all feels that way ...

Posted by: T E Cho | 07/09/2012 at 10:26 PM

MY EDIT:

5 -15 years sounds right....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   10:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1641. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Post Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:35 am by mcgowanjm And the thing about Wall St City folks.

Tyler Durden wrote: MF Global 2 is now official. At least one can never accuse ex-Goldmanite, and current head of the CFTC Gary Gensler, as being behind the curve:

* U.S. COMMODITIES REGULATOR SUES PEREGRINE FINANCIAL GROUP * FIRM HAS $200 MILLION CUSTOMER FUND `SHORTFALL', CFTC SAYS * CFTC LAWSUIT FILED ONE DAY AFTER FIRM ANNOUNCES NFA PROBE

Hopefully, the CFTC's now meaningless action will help all those farmers whose money has just vaporized. Luckily, they can make it all up on record corn profits.

If there's a market, you can't grow it.

If you can grow it, there is no market.

Farmers have lost their positions, moneys, and can only continue to pretend that they're farming USDA REQUIRES adding inputs to crop even if the crop is totaled ALL THE WAY to HARVESTING nubbin' stalks.... :twisted: :roll: :shock: :? 8-)

In order to receive ANY assistance.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   11:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1642. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#1636)

If CO2 is the culprit, then you and all liberals just need to stop exhaling. We will give "Beano" to the cattle.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-10   13:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1643. To: A K A Stone (#0)

USSA says Climate Change for Real.....

071012.....

but way too late to matter now.....

www.climatecentral.org/news/running-toward-empty/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   20:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1644. To: redleghunter (#1642)

you and all liberals

not a liberal....

Dirty Fuckin Hippiie....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   20:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1645. To: redleghunter (#1642)

If CO2 is the culprit, then you and all liberals just need to stop exhaling. We will give "Beano" to the cattle.

10 in rain in 3 hours in Austin....

and that's how the drought gets broken.

Cows surviving get washed away.....;}

climatechangepsychology.b...lcome-to-rest-of-our.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-10   20:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1646. To: A K A Stone (#0)

A rough calculation based on 2012 BP Statistical Review data indicates that the combination of the EU-27, the United States, and Japan spent a little over $1 trillion dollars in oil imports in 2011–roughly the same amount as in 2008. Governments have been running up huge deficits and have been keeping interest rates very low to cover up this damage, but it is hard to make this strategy work. The deficit soon becomes unmanageable, as the PIIGS (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, and Spain) countries in Europe have recently been recently been discovering. The US government is facing automatic spending cuts, as of January 2, 2013, because of its continuing deficits.

Anyone paying attention @ Economic Undertow is familiar with Gail’s argument: the same high price of crude oil that unravels the waste-based economy is the price needed to bring new oil to markets. Here is another economic paradox: we burn value so as to ‘afford’ more value to burn. This is as pointlessly counterproductive as burning gold.

Fuel, Money, Climate … Posted on July 10, 2012 by steve from virginia

www.economic-undertow.com/2012/0 ... y-climate/

“The core of the Eurozone does not want to take on the credit risk involved in any variance of credit mutualization … you will have a worse crisis, not six months from now but another, bigger crisis in the next two-weeks … It’s a perfect storm … you could have a collapse of the Eurozone, a US double-dip, a hard-landing of China, a hard-landing of emerging markets and war in the Middle East …”

The Plan was rolled out.....takes 90 days for the state to position forces, gear up for battle.... that lasts 12 hours..... :twisted:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-11   7:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1647. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Ed Rollins: GOP Needs To Be Less Old, White And Fat (VIDEO)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-11   7:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1648. To: A K A Stone (#0)

July 9 (Bloomberg) -- The worst U.S. drought since Ronald Reagan was president is withering the world’s largest corn crop, and the speed of the damage may spur the government to make a record cut in its July estimate for domestic inventories.

Tumbling yields will combine with the greatest-ever global demand to leave U.S. stockpiles on Sept. 1, 2013, at 1.216 billion bushels (30.89 million metric tons), according to the average of 31 analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg. That’s 35 percent below the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s June 12 forecast, implying the biggest reduction since at least 1973. The USDA updates its harvest and inventory estimates July 11."

Look up how grain prices moved under Reagan....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-11   7:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1649. To: A K A Stone (#0)

[quote]USDA’s next report on the corn and soybean crop will be Wednesday morning. At 7:30 Central time this morning, the July Supply and demand report will be released, but may say more about demand than the supply. USDA will not measure the crops in the field until the first of August and release that estimate on August 10. While everyone will be expecting USDA to reduce its 166 bushel per acre estimate for the 2012 corn crop, the July report traditionally does not contain any significant adjustments.

While there is little doubt the 166 bushel figure is no longer considered valid, the USDA might reduce it several bushels, but certainly not down to the 145 to 150 bushel range currently being traded by the grain market. A two or three bushel drop by USDA would be considered rather bearish, even though it may not be considered news for more than a couple minutes.

The market is expecting USDA to place the average yield at 154 bushels per acre. The average trade guess for old crop corn carryout is 840 million bushels at the end of August. The new crop corn carryout has a wide range of guesses, but the average is 1.23 billion bushels, down from June’s 1.88 billion. The market is expecting USDA to estimate the new soybean crop at 42.3 bushels per acre. For the 2011 soybean carryout the average guess is 170 million bushels. The new crop soybean carryout average is at 134 million bushels for new crop. [/quote]

www.farmgateblog.com/arti...-we-really-learn-anything

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-11   8:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1650. To: A K A Stone (#0)

As far as the eye can see.....but by then it will be way too late to matter.....071012..... :roll: :shock: :twisted:

[quote]The Dust Bowl drought period lasted from 1932 until 1939. Imagine seasons-long heat waves and continuous droughts from now until 2020 across the US.[/quote]

The USSA will have collapsed......less than 8 years.

071012.....USSA admits man made climate change.....about 30 years too late..... :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-11   8:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1651. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Corn closes flat or worse.

Dollar goes to 90 DXY.

Deflation = Credit Contraction

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=ZC&cot=002602&p=m5

Nexum was a debt bondage contract in the early Roman Republic. ... Under the nexum contract, a free man became a bond slave, or nexus, until he could pay ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-11   11:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1652. To: A K A Stone (#0)

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=CL&cot=067651&p=m5

And that's a break right there.

Nothing but air to $78 the bbl.

EROEI effectively determines what is and is not an energy source for a given society (ie to maintain a given level of socioeconomic complexity). Unconventional fossil fuels are caught in a paradox - that their EROEI is too low for them to sustain a society complex enough to produced them.

They can only be produced for the relatively short period of time that the complex society built on conventional sources continues to maintain its current capacities, but as the conventional sources disappear, and that society can no longer support itself, the ability to undertake all the activities required for unconventional production will be lost. The hype has no foundation."

http://theautomaticearth.com/Ene...-with-george-monbiot.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-11   11:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1653. To: All (#1651)

On 2012-07-11 11:10:20, mcgowanjm wrote:

To: A K A Stone

Corn closes flat or worse.

Dollar goes to 90 DXY.

Deflation = Credit Contraction

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=ZC&cot=002602&p=m5

Nexum was a debt bondage contract in the early Roman Republic. ... Under the nexum contract, a free man became a bond slave, or nexus, until he could pay ...

Any questions...........BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-12   8:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1654. To: mcgowanjm (#1647)

A K A Stone to democrats. You need to be more white, more blue collar, less faggy, less commie.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-12   9:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1655. To: mcgowanjm (#1651)

Corn closes flat or worse.

Corn is going up. There is a drought. Stock up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-12   9:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1656. To: A K A Stone (#1654)

A K A Stone to democrats. You need to be more white, more blue collar, less faggy, less commie.

mcgowanjm to democrats. You are a cog. Obama was given Super Mandate and the First thing he did?

'I need to reach across the aisle for bi partisanship.'

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's the Top .1%...until WWIII....and or Hoover Dam stops producing electricity in 2017, whichever is first.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-12   9:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1657. To: A K A Stone (#1655) (Edited)

Corn closes flat or worse.

Corn is going up. There is a drought. Stock up.

I love you.....just like Bunge, Cargill, ADM, Louis Dreyfus, and ConAgra.

We sell into your buying Hand over fist......;}

Silver at $16 the oz by October.....;}

Remember when I told you I trade on info 30 seconds before the best....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-12   9:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1658. To: mcgowanjm (#1656)

Obama was given Super Mandate and the First thing he did?

A new entry to add to you. You said you are a faggot, muslim stinky hippy. Now add liar.

Obama never reached out on anything. He was only elected because he wasn't Bush. No one really likes him. Especially Real Americans. You know the white guys plus some others.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-12   9:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1659. To: A K A Stone (#1658)

On 2012-07-12 09:47:46, A K A Stone wrote:

To: mcgowanjm

Obama was given Super Mandate and the First thing he did?

A new entry to add to you. You said you are a faggot, muslim stinky hippy. Now add liar.

Obama never reached out on anything. He was only elected because he wasn't Bush. No one really likes him. Especially Real Americans. You know the white guys plus some others.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You missed 'poor'. But you zioFundy's always do....;}

Name the lie......and be specific.......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-12   9:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1660. To: All (#1659)

1. The Landmark - Off the Wall by CK Rairden www.plattecountylandmark.com/ckrairden2008.htm

For those that have vowed to lose weight in 2009, try this if you wind up fatter than ever .... Ted Kennedy, endorsed and campaigned for Obama over Clinton - who is .... I'm not sure an adoring press is good for Obama right now as expectations are ...... out to Democrats, so he likely has the better argument for bi-partisnaship.

Daily Kos: This Has To Stop www.dailykos.com/story/20.../625840/-This-Has-To-Stop

Oct 10, 2008 – He's said many times that he wants to reach across the aisle, and ..... I'm glad Obama's daring him to say it to his face, because that puts McCain in a box. .... "The first rule is to have an untroubled spirit. ...... And the big fool says to march on. .... And bi-partisnaship is going to be the large ingredient that we'll ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-12   9:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1661. To: A K A Stone (#1658)

Especially Real Americans. You know the white guys plus some others.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...some others.....BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....;}

Sweet fuckin baby hesus.....page after page.....and you called me a liar on it.....;}

Read 'em and weap....

IMAO » Blog Archive » The Obama Report Part I www.imao.us/index.php/2008/11/the-obama-report-part-i/Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Nov 8, 2008 – Which, when translated by President Elect Obama meant, “I will work in the spirit of bipartisanship to forge a new Washington and reach across ...

Articles about Bipartisanship - CNN articles.cnn.com/keyword/bipartisanship

By Bill Schneider CNN Senior Political Analyst | February 13, 2009 ... to act, and I hope they act in a bipartisan fashion," President Obama said when he went ... "All the talk about bipartisanship that we have heard over the last several months ... with members of Congress ready to reach across the aisle and "budge on some ...

02 | September | 2011 | The Domino Theory by Jeff Winbush http://jeffwinbush.com/2011/09/02/

Sep 2, 2011 – A funny thing happened on the way to President Obama's big jobs address ... that many Congressional Republicans supported in 2009 but oppose now ... I'm not exactly sure how Obama can command the respect that is due him ... to reach across the aisle in the spirit of bipartisan bullshit, I'll retch and be ... # Can Obama Get Off the Mat? | The Domino Theory by Jeff Winbush jeffwinbush.com/2011/09/0...ma-get-off-the-mat/Cached

Sep 2, 2011 – A funny thing happened on the way to President Obama's big jobs address ... that many Congressional Republicans supported in 2009 but oppose now ... I'm not exactly sure how Obama can command the respect that is due him ... to reach across the aisle in the spirit of bipartisan bullshit, I'll retch and be ... # Aides: Obama Hasn't Been Rewarded For Reaching Across The Aisle www.huffingtonpost.com/20...nt-been-re_n_166...Cached

Feb 13, 2009 – 02:57 AM on 02/14/2009 ... I'm turned off by CNN anyways. ... Obama's continued effort to "reach across the aisle" will have a double effect in the long run. Firstly, over time the spirit of true bipartisanship will become more of a reality ..... Should the Republicans continue their self inflicted death death march?

Media Mourns Lugar Loss as a 'Tragic' Blow to 'Bipartisanship ... newsbusters.org › Blogs › Geoffrey Dickens's blogCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo May 9, 2012 – Will Media Fact Checkers Find Obama's 'Outspent' Underdog Whoppers In Ohio? ... Right now reaching across the aisle to try to solve a problem is a ... Coming up what happens to Republicans who don't march to the right wing tune? .... I was probably clutching my guns and religion at the time but I'm ...

Bitter Analysis: Examples of Obama's Bipartisanship bitteranalysis.blogspot.c...ipartisanship.ht...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jun 20, 2008 – Obama's bipartisan efforts while in the Illinois Senate: .... THEN I'd say you are reaching across the aisle bravely in the spirit of bi-partisanship.

House, Senate Republicans latch onto NBPP garbage www.washingtonmonthly.com...dual/.../024901.phpCached - Similar

Jul 26, 2010 – ... civil action in January 2009, then dismissed for two of the three defendants the following May. ... Judiciary Committee Republicans, I'm willing to bet, know this. .... Isn't that why we voted for Obama in the first place? ... and Republicans pay to "bipartisanship" and "reaching across the aisle", ..... March 2009 ...

Do you think Obama has done a good job of being bipartisan ... answers.yahoo.com › ... › All Categories › Politics & Government › Politics

20 answers - Oct 28, 2009 Member since: July 13, 2009; Total points: 182 (Level 1) ... I have faith in the American spirit and the will of the true American people - yes there ... Yah, that's Obama's effort to reach across the aisle. ... So, I'm not sure there is any bipartisanship .... Member since: March 10, 2007; Total points: 15470 (Level 6) ...

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by Brian Morton | February 12, 2009 - 10:05am. Barack Obama, in a spirit of bipartisanship, reached across the aisle and extended a hand. .... They are promoting fascism and continue to march down that path right this minute, with ... Like you, I'm hoping that the worst aspects of humans will be put to rest, but I don't think the ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-12   10:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1662. To: All (#1659)

On 2012-07-12 09:47:46, A K A Stone wrote:

To: mcgowanjm

Obama was given Super Mandate and the First thing he did?

A new entry to add to you. You said you are a faggot, muslim stinky hippy. Now add liar.

Obama never reached out on anything. He was only elected because he wasn't Bush. No one really likes him. Especially Real Americans. You know the white guys plus some others.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You missed 'poor'. But you zioFundy's always do....;}

Name the lie......and be specific.......;}

So.....a week after the election Obama rols out his Military/Finance

picks and bush43 would've chosen no differently....;}

Then......after a SUPER MANDATE.....can you even imagine what the GOP would've done with that!!!!!!!!!!??????????....;}

The VERY FIRST thing after setting up the Command Economy and Expanded Wars for the Jews was .......

wait ....for....it.....

WE NEED MORE BIPARTISANSHIP IN WASHINGTON......BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

It's the TOP .1%

and the Bottom 99% Debt slaves....

Jeff Davis would be o so proud.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-12   10:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1663. To: A K A Stone (#0)

But, if I remember correctly, the foundational tenet of central planning in a Communist system is, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" - the economic version of the Golden Rule. Is that what we see happening here? That's not what I see happening... I see the central authorities bending over backwards to take what people can no longer afford to give and giving it to those who are never satisfied with what they have."

TAE, Ashvin

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   7:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1664. To: All (#1663)

* ct us

15 enemy vehicles destroyed in attack on convoy Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Friday, 23 Sya'ban 1433 Friday, 13 July 2012 11:30

FARAH, Jul. 13 – 12 large logistical, 1 escort security and 2 loader vehicles were destroyed while 1 escort security guard was killed and 4 others wounded when Mujahideen waylaid the enemy convoy this morning at 10:00 am in Khalifa Khelo area of Bakwa district.

Mujahideen kill 25 security guards, hurt 26 in Wardak; 24 fuel and supply trucks eliminated Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Thursday, 22 Sya'ban 1433 Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:43

WARDAK, July 12 – Twenty five including 15 escort security guards 4, puppets soldiers (ANA) and 6 drivers were killed and 26 security guards, soldiers and drivers were wounded on Thursday as a result of Mujahideen three separate onslaughts on the US-NATO fuel and supply convoys in Wardak province.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   7:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1665. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Bankers also respond to strong dis-incentives, and will alter their behavior if those rules are enforced. For example, fraud and inordinate risk-taking on Wall Street would all but disappear if We The People carried out a few televised public executions, making sure to precede them with lots of very painful torture.

However, the liberal economist would be upset by the uncivilized lengths we might go to to discourage further rip-offs of American citizens. He believes in the rule of law and due process. Unfortunately, once again, these civilized procedures do not apply to Wall Street bankers, who own (or rent) the people who might bring them to swift justice.

Diogenes of Sinope, also known as Diogenes the Cynic, lived in 4th century B.C.E. and died in Corinth in 323.

Diogenes is especially scornful of sophisms. He disproves an argument that a person has horns by touching his forehead, and in a similar manner, counters the claim that there is no such thing as motion by walking around...

Diogenes’ talent for undercutting social and religious conventions and subverting political power can tempt readers into viewing his position as merely negative. This would, however, be a mistake. Diogenes is clearly contentious, but he is so for the sake of promoting reason and virtue. In the end, for a human to be in accord with nature is to be rational, for it is in the nature of a human being to act in accord with reason.

[My note: I'm afraid Diogenes has got this last part exactly backwards. Otherwise we are in complete agreement.]

Diogenes has trouble finding such humans, and expresses his sentiments regarding his difficulty theatrically. He is reported to have lit a lamp in broad daylight and said, as he went about—

I am searching for a human being

(Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, Book 6, Chapter 41).

So am I, Diogenes, so am I.

www.declineoftheempire.co...ry-and-risk-free-too.html

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   8:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1666. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Why I love Putin....and why the USSA hates him.

He does not back down, especially when he knows he's right.....;}

"by Jason Ditz, July 12, 2012 Print This | Share This

The Russian cargo ship the Alaed has left Russian waters again on an attempt to deliver refurbished Syrian helicopters back to the Syrian military. The last shipping attempt failed after British officials, under US pressure, forced the revocation of their insurance.

The Alaed had been a Curucao-flagged ship, and British officials made a big deal of having given serious consideration to launching a naval attack on the ship ......

.....This time, things are different. The ship has been reflagged as a Russian ship and while still traveling as a private vessel it is trailing not far behind a flotilla of Russian naval ships headed to the same area on a “training” operation. Being a Russian-flagged ship removes the insurance obstacle, and the close proximity of the flotilla presumably will prevent Britain from giving serious consideration to attacking it when it gets close to British waters......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   9:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1667. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#502. To: Robin (#501)

I see the central authorities bending over backwards to take what people can no longer afford to give and giving it to those who are never satisfied with what they have.

And in related news, Customer Dodged Bullet, Tranferred Account From MF Global Just Before It Collapsed (wait for it) and put it into PFGBest, where it is now being liquidated/frozen.

Sorry but that's just way too funny....in a very sick way.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   9:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1668. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

#502. To: Robin (#501)

I see the central authorities bending over backwards to take what people can no longer afford to give and giving it to those who are never satisfied with what they have.

And in related news, Customer Dodged Bullet, Tranferred Account From MF Global Just Before It Collapsed (wait for it) and put it into PFGBest, where it is now being liquidated/frozen.

Sorry but that's just way too funny....in a very sick way.....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-13 9:56:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #503. To: All (#0)

jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

13 July 2012 Note From Europe: Spain Has Its 'Let Them Eat Cake" Moment

Here is a note from a friend about a news item that seem to have not penetrated the Anglo-American news media yet.

When the Prime Minister said that they must cut benefits to Spain's unemployed, Miss Fabra was caught on video shouting, "Screw them."

It appears that the damage control groups are now trying to spin this that Miss Fabra was not saying 'screw them' to the unemployed, which is who the Prime Minister was talking about, but rather the Socialists, who favor things like benefits for the unemployed."

They really can't help themselves.

Self Destruction is just built in to their gene pool....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-13 10:22:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #504. To: All (#503) (Edited)

Translation Note:

Que se jodan directly translates to 'fu ck you/them'.

Big difference....;}

or Better....and the great thing about the word 'Fu ck' is that Everyone Immediately knows EXACTLY what you meant.....;}

"f**k them all!" www.mediauk.com › ... › Discussions › Print Chatter

A Print Chatter discussion: f**k them all! ... on announcing unemployment benefit cuts, Andrea Fabra is reported to have shouted “Que se jodan” (“f**k them!

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-13 10:25:15 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   10:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1669. To: All (#1668)

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... :twisted:

Spain's Marie Antoinette Moment in video.

As the PM addresses his audience.

#

# rajoy | Tumblr www.tumblr.com/tagged/rajoyCached - Translate this page

Andrea Fabra, Deputy PP (Spain), clapping and yelling “Fuck them” when Rajoy (Prime Minister ) announced the cut in unemployment. Andrea Fabra, Diputada ...

QUE SE JODAN :!: LMFAO..... :twisted:

Better translation:

"Fuck them All :!: "

The Very same message being given World wide to the Bottom 99%..... :twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   11:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1670. To: All (#1669)

Miss Fabra was appointed Parliamentary Advisor at the age of 24, straight out of university.

Her father has "won" the lottery at least 7 times,(WTF!!!???;) and who is under multiple investigations for corruption.

"Qu’ils mangent de la brioche." France, late 18th century

"Que se jodan!" Spain, early 21st century

At least, back then, they had better manners.

FU CK THEM ALL!!!!!! QUE SE JODAN!!!!!!......8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   11:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1671. To: All (#1670)

Now where the Fuck did I put that Guillotine.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   11:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1672. To: All (#1671)

#506. To: All (#505)

After the collapse of MF Global, the C.F.T.C. ordered a review of all futures firms to ensure the safety of customer money. The N.F.A. gave Peregrine a clean bill of health in January.

QUE SE JODAN!!!!!....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-13 11:06:13 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   11:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1673. To: All (#1672)

CBC: For Past 30 Years Most Economic Gains Have Gone to Top One Percent

"Over the past 30 years, the benefits of economic growth in Canada, the US and much of the rest of the world, have gone increasingly to the top one percent of the population.

QUE SE JODAN :!: :!: :!: :twisted: :x :lol: :shock: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   11:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1674. To: A K A Stone, All (#1673)

Exclusive: Barclays' Diamond turns to Corzine's top lawyer for Libor scandal

QUE SE JODAN!!!!!!...8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   11:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1675. To: All (#1674)

July 13, 2012 GEITHNER: Tucker knew about Libor scamming in 2008

Washington Post calls out Deputy BoE Governor

QUE SE JODAN :!: :!: :!: :twisted: :x :lol: :shock: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   11:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1676. To: All (#1675)

After the Tucker evidence I posted again to say ‘yesterday’s Tucker Treat was simply unbelievable’. Now the Post’s well-crafted, sourced and fully-documented piece confirms it.

And there will be more to come today: The New York Fed that Timmy led between until 2008 is to publish ‘dozens of implicatory documents’ this afternoon GMT. Says my trusty New York source, “We’re talking trillions of dollars in money rates here. I hear that several of the papers, emails and letters show conclusively that Geithner’s Fed knew about Libor dishonesty by 2007 at the latest.”

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

QUE SE JODAN :!: :!: :!: :twisted: :x :lol: :shock: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   11:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1677. To: All (#1671)

The cracks in the ice are getting bigger. At this point it is really hard to have much confidence in the global financial system at all. They told us that MF Global was an isolated incident. Well, the horrific financial scandal over at PFGBest is essentially MF Global all over again. They told us that we would not see a huge wave of municipal bankruptcies in the United States. Well, three California cities have declared bankruptcy in less than a month. They told us that we could have faith in the integrity of the global financial system. Well, now we are finding out that global interest rates have been fixed by insiders for years. They told us that Greece was an isolated problem and that none of the larger European nations would experience anything remotely similar. Well, what is happening in Spain right now looks like an instant replay of exactly what happened in Greece. So who are we supposed to believe? Why does it seem like nearly everything that "the authorities" tell us turns out to be a lie? What else haven't they been telling us?

theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/tag/spain

QUE SE JODAN...... :twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-13   22:02:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1678. To: mcgowanjm (#1676)

Says my trusty New York source, “We’re talking trillions of dollars in money rates here. I hear that several of the papers, emails and letters show conclusively that Geithner’s Fed knew about Libor dishonesty by 2007 at the latest.”

Jump, you fukcers!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-13   22:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1679. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#515. To: Robin, All (#0)

There are certain things/events that you cannot ignore.

To do so is to feed the Hate that is waiting.

To let the hate know that it is safe.

That making a 'mistake' will not be punished.

That your profit from that mistake will not be taken away.

The MSM is as much of this as if they are one....

The Truth replaced by silence is evil.....;}

www.izaronews.info/euskadi/2012/opinion/12279

Posted by Directora Posted on Viernes, julio 13th, 2012

Posted by Director Posted on Friday, July 13th, 2012

(MY Edit: And When reporting, the Translation must be as accurate as possible....;})

QUE SE JODAN!!!!!!

fuc k them them!

Iosu MADRID.-

¡Que se jodan!, gritaba la corrupta, hija del megalómano corrupto,

cuando su jefe asestaba puñalada tras puñalada a su amada España. MADRID Iosu.

- f uck them!, Shouted the corrupt, corrupt megalomaniac daughter, when her boss stab after stab asestaba his beloved Spain.

¡Que se jodan!, rebuznaba desde su escaño la desalmada, mientras sus compañeros ovacionaban, puestos en pie, la sentencia de pobreza que dictaba el mamporrero de Bruselas contra su idolatrada patria.

fu ck them!, Brayed from his seat the soulless, while his teammates cheering, standing positions, the judgment of poverty that dictated mamporrero Brussels against his adored country.

¡Que se jodan!, bramaba Andrea Fabra, hija de Carlos Fabra, el cacique de Castellón, imputado hasta la cejas en la corrupción.

f uck them!, Bellowed Andrea Fabra, daughter of Carlos Fabra, the chief of Castellón, charged to the eyebrows in corruption.

El de los aeropuertos 'para pasear', el de la gigantesca, y horrenda, estatua de si mismo comiéndose un avión…

The airports 'to walk', that of the gigantic and hideous statue of himself eating a plane ...

En esta España hundida en el pozo negro de la corrupción moral y económica pasan estas cosas.

In this Spain plunged into the black pit of moral and economic corruption these things happen.

Un lodazal donde un supuesto ser humano que representa, supuestamente, al Pueblo, se permite alegrarse en público de que a sus connacionales les apliquen duros recortes sociales que les condenan a la miseria.

A quagmire where a human being who is supposed supposedly the People are permitted to rejoice in public that their nationals apply them hard social cuts that condemn them to poverty.

Un país donde la clase dirigente en lo económico y en lo político pisa entusiasmada la cabeza de los que no son de los suyos.

A country where the ruling class in the economic and political steps enthusiastic head of those who are not their own.

Estos que dicen amar apasionadamente a España se la están cargando al ritmo de batucada de sus mercados.

Those who claim to love it passionately to Spain are carrying the batucada rhythm of their markets.

¡Que se jodan! Fu ck them!

Ese es su grito de guerra.

That is their battle cry.

Ese es su programa de Gobierno.

That is the government program.

Ese es el ADN de estos miserables que creen que, ¡por fin!, han vuelto a recuperar el control de su cortijo particular.

That is the DNA of these wretches who believe that, at last!, Have regained control of his farmhouse particular.

De su personal patio de monipodio.

Of staff Monipodio yard.

¡Sin complejos!, decía Aznar ya fe que se han quitado la careta.

No complex!, Said Aznar and faith that have been removed the mask.

De todas formas, uno creía haber visto de todo en la vida, pero el contemplar cómo alguien se alegraba, con luz y taquígrafos, del dolor que iba a causar a otros provoca arcadas de asco y de repugnancia.

Anyway, one thought I had seen everything in life, but was glad to see how anyone, openly and, the pain it would cause to other causes gagging with disgust and revulsion.

Habláis y no calláis de terrorismo y de víctimas… ¿y eso, no es terrorismo?

You speak and Callais and victims of terrorism ... and that is not terrorism?

¿No es ese “¡que se jodan!” le expresión más visible de la violencia, el desprecio, la humillación y el odio?

Is not that "fuc k you!" I most visible expression of violence, contempt, humiliation and hatred?

¿Y quien quiere estar con estos?

And who wants to be with these?"

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-14 8:55:58 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   8:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1680. To: mcgowanjm (#1679)

Message to Robin. Behead yourself. You have no brain anyway. Useless breather.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-14   9:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1681. To: A K A Stone (#1680)

Message to Robin. Behead yourself. You have no brain anyway. Useless breather.

Message to you.

and your Top 1% brethren:

QUE SE JODAN!.....;}

Compare Robin's Board with yours, A K.

See which is more relevant.....;}

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   9:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1682. To: mcgowanjm (#1681)

Compare Robin's Board with yours, A K.

Robin is a commie piece of shit. She should behead herself. Totally useless person.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-14   9:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1683. To: A K A Stone (#1682)

Robin is a commie piece of shit.

Forget Robin,

I'm a commie.....;}

You have to get me first....;}

Think you're man enough?.....bring it.

Sincerely,

Jimmie....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   9:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1684. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Without further preamble, I give you the two primary rules of American political life in the 21st century.

* The amount of political bullshit you are subjected to is directly proportional to the flagrant insanity and abject corruption which needs to be concealed.

* The amount of political bullshit you are subjected to is inversely proportional to the importance of the election result.

I hope these rules will help you through these tough times.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   10:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1685. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Times and Haaretz missed the key point. Israel's entire occupation of Gaza, the West Bank, and all of Jerusalem (East and West) is illegal.

Under international law, Palestinians are entitled to all land within pre-1967 borders, but more than that. The 1947 Partition Plan gave them 42% of historic Palestine.

Jerusalem in its entirely remains an international city.

In 1987, Francis Boyle drafted Palestine's Declaration of Independence. On November 15, 1988, the Palestinian National Council (PNC) adopted his Memorandum "proclaim(ing) the existence of the new independent state of Palestine."

Most nations recognize its status. It also deserves de jure UN membership. It qualifies in all respects. It's recognized under UN Charter article 80(1) and League Covenant article 22(4)...."

Get a job, you Dirty Fuckin' Hippie......;}

How about Being in charge of Bankster Dangsta Re Education Camps.....

BUWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   10:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1686. To: All (#1685)

Western media outlets are increasingly using the magic phrases "WMD" and "dictator" with regard to Syria. Washington Post: “The success of Libya’s rebels in toppling their dictator is prompting calls within the Syrian opposition for armed rebellion and NATO intervention. Protesters in recent days have carried banners calling for a no-fly zone over Syria akin to the one that facilitated the Libyan revolt.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/calls-in-syria-for-weapons-nato-intervention/2011/08/26/gIQA3WAslJ_story.html

So there it is.

Syrian "rebels" admit to being armed terrorists, and the western media is increasingly demanding that NATO start bombing.

I know....I'll dismantle the USSA Military....that would be a GREAT Job....;}

How about shutting down bp.....Boy Howdy!!!!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   10:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1687. To: A K A Stone, All (#1686)

Before the USSA invaded....we STILL don't know why....;}

HEY, A K, I can get us out of Iraq....Now THAT would be a GREAT job....;}

"July 12, 2012

Iraq's economic development is being held back by a critical shortage of electricity - with businesses and homes across the country forced to endure blackouts of as long as 15 hours a day.

Total demand stands at 14,000 megawatts, but the country's struggling power plants can supply only up to 8,000 megawatts.

Businesses in virtually every sector are reeling from a dependence on costly generators as summer temperatures rise to almost 50°C.

The government is unable to offer more than nine to 12 hours of power a day."

eLECTRICITY was on 24/7 No Problem before the USSA invaded.....

I can get a job getting Iraq's Electricity back on.....

Whaddaya think , A K?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   10:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1688. To: mcgowanjm (#1685)

The Times and Haaretz missed the key point. Israel's entire occupation of Gaza, the West Bank, and all of Jerusalem (East and West) is illegal.

Israel is for the Jews. Not the muslim scumbags.

Take your international law and shove it up Obamas ass and send it to Kenya.

Parts of Jordan are actually Israel too. When are the Jordanians and Syrians going to get off Israels land?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-14   11:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1689. To: A K A Stone (#0)

You in charge of unemployment now?

Got a CCC lined up?

HAnding out anything above Min Wage?

Operating Private Prisons maybe.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   11:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1690. To: A K A Stone (#1688)

Israel is for the Jews.

Israel is illegal from Day 1.

See 1921 Cairo Conference Winston Churchill Jewish Homeland for details.

Like All advancing empires it never knows when to stop.

Coulda had the 1967 Greenline.....

The Only reason it exists is the USSA/Brits/France.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   11:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1691. To: A K A Stone (#1688) (Edited)

Take your international law and shove it up Obamas ass and send it to Kenya.

And that's the Trouble with the Top 1%.

They think Law of the Jungle's just fine and dandy as long as they (think;) they're on top.....;}

You like Male ass do you?...or would you just watch.....and wtf not, eh?...except he's black.

Wouldn't look too good at Militia HQ, now would it?

And another Birther. Unearned Wealth breeds ignorance, hypocrisy and quick downfalls....be careful....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   11:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1692. To: mcgowanjm (#1691)

Mister Jimmie,

Don't let A K get under your skin. Without you here, this site would surely die.

Bet on the #5 horse in the 5th race! It works out for me once in a while.

And if you're not having a good betting day, bet the last horse in the last race. I've learned these things since being in Kentucky ;^)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-14   12:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1693. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Re: Hot by Linda the Ozarker

Post Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:45 am by mcgowanjm

Published Jul 13 2012 by Democracy Now!,

Archived Jul 13 2012

"This Is Just the Beginning": Forest Fires, Deadly Storms, Record Heat Reveal a Changed Climate by Amy Goodman

The past two weeks have witnessed the worst forest fires in Colorado history, a deadly Mid-Atlantic storm that left 23 dead and four million without power, and a record shattering heat wave across the East Coast and Midwest that has not seen since the Dust Bowl. More than 2,000 heat records have been broken in the past week. As the words "extreme weather" flash across TV screens, where are the other two words: "global warming"? We speak to The Guardian’s U.S. environment correspondent Suzanne Goldenberg and Jeff Masters, director of meteorology at the Weather Underground website. "What we’re seeing now is the future," Masters says. "We’re going to be seeing a lot more weather like this, a lot more impacts like we’re seeing from this series of heat waves, fires and storms. ...

This is just the beginning."

www.energybulletin.net/stories/2 ... ed-climate

Record Amount of Arctic Sea Ice Melted in June

* Published: July 13th, 2012

Andrew Freedman By Andrew Freedman

The Arctic melt season is well underway, and sea ice extent — a key indicator of global warming — declined rapidly during June, setting a record for the largest June sea ice loss in the satellite era. Sea ice extent is currently running just below the level seen at the same time in 2007, the year that set the record for the lowest sea ice minimum in the satellite era.

An Arctic Ice Free will Completely change our World.

In Single Digit years.....CLimate Runaway should be assumed now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   12:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1694. To: Fred Mertz (#1692)

Mister Jimmie,

Call me Jimmie, please....you'll make me feel old....;}

And Thanx,

Friend.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-14   12:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1695. To: mcgowanjm (#1694)

Okay, Jimmie, those are my free handicapping/betting tips for the year. I hope you get great mileage out of them.

I hope this posts cleanly....Arlington Park, 5th race yesterday results below. At Ellis Park the 5 horse finished second yesterday and if you bet WPS you'd be slightly ahead.

No, it didn't preview cleanly so here's the link for yesterday's results....

www.equibase.com/static/c...mary/AP071312USA-EQB.html

Don't forget, the last horse in the last race tip is only if you're having a bad betting day.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-14   12:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1696. To: Fred Mertz (#1692)

Don't let A K get under your skin. Without you here, this site would surely die.

No Fred. It is you that makes this place run.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-14   14:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1697. To: A K A Stone (#1696)

Up yours.

Give me a 3 day suspension so I can get some yard work completed.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-14   14:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1698. To: Fred Mertz (#1697)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-15   1:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1699. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"The above explains why the central planners of this world, all of them well-aware of the implications of what has just been said, will literally fight to the death to prevent the global system from reacquire its balanced natural state, which----------

for 30 years

''''''''''''''they have been pushing further and further away from in other to perpetuate as long as possible, an unstable status quo, which has benefited a disproprtionately smaller number of systemic participants, and has lead the system far beyond its tipping point level."

"keystone-hub financial system contagion increasing the risk of system failure.

Once the financial system contagion crosses a particular threshold the de-stabilisation of the globalised economy will be exceedingly difficult to arrest; this point may be in as little as ten days. Once a major system collapse occurs, scale, hysteresis, entropy, loss of critical functions, recursion failure, and resource diversion is likely to ensure that the features associated with the previous dynamic state of the globalised economy can never be recovered.

Sadly, the system will eventually regain balance: that is what nature dictates. When it does, a politically correct way of saying what happens it that "the previous dynamic state of the globalised economy can never be recovered" while a less PC framing would be "all hell will break loose."

Trade Off: Financial system supply-chain cross contagion – a study in global systemic collapse Jun 17, 2012

http://www.feasta.org/2012/06/17...global-systemic-collapse/

The Non Linear Dragon King

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-15   7:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1700. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Russia offers Cyprus better bailout conditions ... - Yahoo! News news.yahoo.com/russia-off...-bailout-conditions-presi

Jul 4, 2012 – From Yahoo! News: Russia is offering Cyprus more favourable conditions than the EU and IMF as the Meditarranean island seeks aid to shore ...

Post Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:47 am by mcgowanjm Too bad Spain can't discover one of these fields..... :twisted:

Russia's got this. They play chess, we play checkers..... 8-)

The first is temporal paralysis:

As financial and monetary systems become more unstable, the risks associated with doing anything significant to change or alter the course increase (see also the discussion of lock-in in the final section). In addition, the diversity of national actors, public opinion, institutional players and perceptions works against a coherent consensus on action. Therefore the temptation is to displace immediate risk by taking the minimal action to avert an imminent crisis.

This increases systemic risk.

With every iteration, the USSA picks up a 'failed state of energy' while the Russians pick up a key node in a future Energy Field/Pipeline.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-15   8:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1701. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Financial System Supply-Chain Cross-Contagion: a study in global systemic collapse. David Korowicz 30th June (revised) , 2012 Thi Metis Risk

second issue is what might be called the reflexivity trap:

The actions taken to prevent a crisis, or preparations for dealing with the aftermath of a crisis, may help precipitate the crisis. Therefore to avoid precipitation, the preparation has to be low key and below the radar of the public and markets. This limits the extent and scope of preparation, increasing the risk of a chaotic and slow response.

Financial System Supply-Chain Cross-Contagion: a study in global systemic collapse. David Korowicz 30th June (revised) , 2012 Thi Metis Risk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-15   8:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1702. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The final point is about black swans & brittle systems:

The growing stress in our very complex globalised economy means it is much less resilient, see the discussion in section 3.1 and figure 2. Thus a small shock or an unpredictable event could set in train a chain of events that could push the globalised economy over a tipping point, and into a process of negative feedback and collapse.

The Non Linear Dragon King.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-15   9:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1703. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#527. To: All (#0)

Between June and August 2001, the currency component of the “M1 aggregate”—which includes currency in circulation and demand deposits—reported by the US Federal Reserve, increases by the greatest amount over the June-August period since 1947, the first year for which this data is reported. (Bergman 9/16/2005; Devine and Miles 1/20/2006 pdf file)

“The [Federal Reserve’s] failure to date to publicly address the growth in currency in mid-2001 is conspicuous. If a benign explanation exists, or if for whatever reasons the currency growth is irrelevant, the Fed should say so publicly, and explain why this is the case. A failure to do so raises… troubling questions.” (Devine and Miles 1/20/2006 pdf file)

this letter is “related to these warnings.” He will also point out, “negotiations between the Taliban and representatives of the United States over energy production issues in Afghanistan ended on August 2, 2001” (see August 2, 2001), and that, “Four days later, President Bush received a ‘PDB’—a presidential daily brief—with a headline warning that bin Laden was ‘determined to strike in US,’

When, in December 2003, Bergman asks the Board of Governors staff why it issued the August 2 letter, and if the letter was related to intelligence about heightened terrorist threats, he will receive no reply and subsequently be told he has “committed an egregious breach of protocol in calling the Board staff and asking the question.”

According to Bergman, ....... The unanswered question on Bergmanâ€s 40 question Q&A asked why the Board had issued the August 2, 2001 letter â€" a very fair, logical, and important question that has yet to be answered to this day.

Given the fact that the supervisor gave him the green light and directed him to find the answer regarding the August 2, 2001 supervisory letter, Bergman decided that the best method to discover the answer was to contact the staff of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve directly. In December 2003 he called the Board and inquired about the meaning and motivation behind the August 2, 2001 letter. Within two weeks his assignment was abruptly terminated and his credentials canceled. " on Mar 27, 2007 at 08:06 AM

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-15 20:49:27 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-15   20:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1704. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Overwhelming Evidence

The one-sided results of the 375,000 state exit polls over the last six presidential elections leads to only one conclusion: the massive exit poll discrepancies cannot be due to faulty polling and is overwhelming evidence that systemic election fraud has favored the Republicans in every election since 1988.

Note that respondents are not asked to provide personal information. There is no excuse for not releasing exit poll/voting results for each of the 1400+ exit poll precincts. There is no privacy issue.

Calculating the probabilties The probability P that 55 of 57 exit polls would flip from the Democrats in the exit polls to the Republicans in the recorded vote is given by the Binomial distribution: P= 1-Binomdist(54,57,.5,true) P= 1.13E-14 = 0.000000000000011 or 1 in 88 trillion!

The probability that the exit poll margin of error would be exceeded in any given state is 5% or 1 in 20. Therefore, approximately 14 of the 274 exit polls would be expected to exceed the margin of error, 7 for the Republican and 7 for the Democrat.

Given the relationship between the exit poll, margin of error and corresponding win probability, we compare the 274 state exit polls to the corresponding recorded votes. The Republicans did better in the recorded vote than in the exit polls in 226 (82.4%) of the 274 elections. The probability of this one-sided red-shift is 3.7E-31 or 1 in 2.7 million trillion trillion."

richardcharnin.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-16   7:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1705. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Picasso Moon wrote:

Debt deflation would in its formal sense start to die-nobody would (even if they could) pay down debt, nor would there be any credit. Production would be increasingly shut down, while complex societies got a rapid lesson on the extent of system dependency.

I think you mean that society would start to die, not debt deflation, which would be the fatal disease. No?

Couple the Above with this:

This global financial fraud and its gatekeepers Naomi Wolf

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... atekeepers

The media's 'bad apple' thesis no longer works. We're seeing systemic corruption in banking – and systemic collusion

July 14, 2012

Last fall, I argued that the violent reaction to Occupy and other protests around the world had to do with the 1%ers' fear of the rank and file exposing massive fraud if they ever managed get their hands on the books. At that time, I had no evidence of this motivation beyond the fact that financial system reform and increased transparency were at the top of many protesters' list of demands.

And you're looking at Debt Deflation Aneurism/Stroke at anytime.

And the Fact that you have exposed the Top 400 as Clueless....So that ONLY their 'Security' understands and keeps the Sordid Details from same.

What you end up with:

A jet at altitude that has ruptured and is rapidly depressurizing a k a payne stewart:

Plane may have suffered depressurization www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/stewart/stewfs05.htm

Plane may have suffered depressurization WASHINGTON (AP) - Everything known about the crash of Payne Stewart`s jet pointed to asudden loss of pressurization in the ``very hostile`` environment of high-altitude flight. ... measure of the time the body can cope without oxygen, and it diminishes almost quickly with altitude.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-16   8:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1706. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The current tragedy in Europe is unfolding with the same sense of dishonor and inevitability as during 1938. History may rhyme as Mark Twain once said, but it clearly is repeating itself, now.

The establishments around the world insist on sacrificing others to the mad men. This strategy fails, appeasement makes these men bolder, they cannot be satiated or even evaded. Their ambition and reach has become universal, they are monsters.

They must be destroyed, annihilated and all memories of them done away with. Their tools of destruction which they promote as ‘efficiency’ must be hammered flat and repudiated. The steps leading to Munich failed to bring peace but led instead to a great war, the steps leading to Brussels follow the exact same path. It is the cowardice of the good people, the moral relativism of the disinterested who refuse to see it."

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-16   10:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1707. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Remember when the USSAMSM would mention Manhattan sized ice islands calving?

They don't do that any more.

But the calving hasn't stopped.

Petermann Glacier NW Greenland:

neven1.typepad.com/blog/2...nn-calves-again.html#more

Planet Earth, about 100 years from now.....;}:

'Now, you finally understand what we have suffered. Now you know why we must kill these 'virus' and won’t complain the next time you hear we have done so.'

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-17 7:32:26 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-17   7:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1708. To: All (#1707)

It's getting hotter and hotter, isn't it? Below is the latest graph of CO2, from CO2Now.org. The concentration in the atmosphere continues to climb at an accelerating rate. Think about that. The difference between June 2010 and June 2011 was an increase of 1.65 ppm, whereas the difference between June 2011 and this June, 2012, was 2.09 ppm."

witsendnj.blogspot.com/2012/07/anagnorisis.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-17   7:34:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1709. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#534. To: Robin, All (#0)

And speaking of entering the Mad Men's Bizarro World after 9/11.....

Turkish Skyscraper On Fire - Video Tyler Durden's picture Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/17/2012 07:08 -0400

A large blaze has broken out in a 42-story tower block in the center of the Turkish city of Istanbul.

Should be collapsing PANCAKE STYLE with concrete being reduced to dust in about 2 more hours....LMFAO.....8D

www.zerohedge.com/news/tu...everyone+drops+to+zero%29

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-17 8:14:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #535. To: All (#534)

With everyone thinkin' the exact same thing.

There's a reason the USSA MSM doesn't show burning skyscrapers or Controlled Demolitions anymore.....;}

The USSA did 9/11 and fcuk you, cheney/netanyahu....;}

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Comment viewing options Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes. Tue, 07/17/2012 - 07:11 | 2623474 Anne Ominous Anne Ominous's picture

Be careful, as a steel framed building it may collapse at freefall speed any second.

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Tue, 07/17/2012 - 07:16 | 2623493 johnQpublic johnQpublic's picture

i know

i kept waiting to see it fall into its own footprint

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Tue, 07/17/2012 - 07:23 | 2623509 Spirit Of Truth Spirit Of Truth's picture

Why would Russia target a building in Istanbul?

thespiritoftruth.blogspot...ussia-was-behind-911.html

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Tue, 07/17/2012 - 07:34 | 2623528 Skateboarder Skateboarder's picture

So what are the freedoms we are giving up for security this time?

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Tue, 07/17/2012 - 07:57 | 2623578 Al Gorerhythm Al Gorerhythm's picture

It's the surrounding buildings that concern me. They should all start falling soon. I noticed a fire in the dumpster a block away from one of them that should cause imminent collapse.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-17 8:19:48 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-17   8:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1710. To: All (#1709)

To ReCap:

The Northern Hemisphere just experienced the all-time warmest June on record, at 2.34°F above average. The average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during June was 71.2°F, which is 2.0°F above the 20th century average, contributing to a record-warm first half of the year and the warmest 12-month period the nation has experienced since record-keeping began in 1895.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-17   8:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1711. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Quite possibly, says climate modeller Pier Luigi Vidale at the University of Reading, UK. He thinks plants and soils might explain some of the unprecedented heatwaves. Where land is covered by vegetation, much of the sun's heat is absorbed by plants. They stay cool - and keep the land cool - by sucking up water and letting it evaporate from their leaves. But when the soil dries out, plants close their pores and stop transpiring. "It is the same as if you don't drink any water and stop sweating," says Vidale. When the sun's heat is no longer channelled into evaporating water, it all goes into the land and the air above it. The result is a jump in temperature.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-17   9:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1712. To: mcgowanjm (#1711)

So antartica used to have paved roads. Then they took out the roads and it froze over?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-17   9:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1713. To: A K A Stone (#1712)

So antartica used to have paved roads. Then they took out the roads and it froze over?

In your world...whatever.

In My world, Antarctica is or will be by Summer at 2C degree rise over 1760 baseline.

The ANthropocene is here for the little while, 12-18 years before we get either

A) Ice AGE

or

B) We won't know because we'll have been fried long before.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-17   9:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1714. To: A K A Stone (#1712)

To: Robin, Nolu Chan, All

Calculate the Number of folks that you think have total control to take down the Planet for human habitation and that should also be the number of folks who realize just how little time Human Civilization has left on this Planet....;}

#1713. To: A K A Stone (#1712)

So antartica used to have paved roads. Then they took out the roads and it froze over?

In your world...whatever.

In My world, Antarctica is or will be by Summer at 2C degree rise over 1760 baseline.

The ANthropocene is here for the little while, 12-18 years before we get either

A) Ice AGE

or

B) We won't know because we'll have been fried long before.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-17 9:58:20 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-17   10:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1715. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And speaking of odious debts:

RBS timeline: where it all went wrong - Telegraph www.telegraph.co.uk › Finance › News by Sector › Banks and Finance

Dec 2, 2010 – From the ill-fated [b]ABN Amro deal to. RBS reported a loss of £24.1bn for 2008[/b], the biggest in British corporate history. Photo: GETTY. 12:11PM ...

ABN Amro, Royal Bank of Scotland to merge www.rediff.com › India › Business › Business Headline

Mar 14, 2008 – Meera Sanyal, Country Executive, ABN Amro Bank, revealed the bank's merger plans with Royal Bank of Scotland. Dutch Central Bank has ...

EXACTLY THE SAME from the SAME MAD MEN:

# [b]BofA inks deal to buy Countrywide[/b] for $4 billion - Jan. 11, 2008 money.cnn.com/2008/01/11/...ompanies/boa_countrywide/ You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jan 11, 2008 – NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Bank of America came to the rescue of embattled mortgage lender Countrywide Financial Corp. Friday ... # Can Bank of America salvage its Countrywide stake? - Jan. 9, 2008 money.cnn.com/2008/01/09/..._countrywide.../index.htm

Jan 9, 2008 – Bank of America's $2 billion investment in troubled mortgage lender Countrywide is disappearing fast. Too bad its options are limited.

The Thing about how Reality treats Manipulation/Cover Ups/Censorship:

IT's MALFUNCTION and the System IMMEDIATELY looks for...and DOES.... :twisted: :? 8-) a ROUTE AROUND....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-17   10:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1716. To: All (#1715)

#538. To: Robin (#536)

It's the surrounding buildings that concern me. They should all start falling soon. I noticed a fire in the dumpster a block away from one of them that should cause imminent collapse.

lol

The Thing about how Reality treats Manipulation/Cover Ups/Censorship:

IT's MALFUNCTION and the System IMMEDIATELY looks for...and DOES.... :twisted: :? 8-) a ROUTE AROUND....

With every passing day, the White House CT becomes nothing more than a joke.....;}

Which the Mad MEn will not get....ever.....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-17 10:37:38 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-17   10:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1717. To: mcgowanjm (#1645)

10 in rain in 3 hours in Austin....

and that's how the drought gets broken.

Cows surviving get washed away.....;}

Yeah we had some good rain this week. Toads all over the place:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-17   15:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1718. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#539. To: All (#538)

"It looks as if an over-confident US government is determined to have a three-front war: Syria, Lebanon, and Iran in the Middle East, China in the Far East, and Russia in Europe. This would appear to be an ambitious agenda for a government whose military was unable to occupy Iraq after nine years or to defeat the lightly-armed Taliban after eleven years, and whose economy and those of its NATO puppets are in trouble and decline with corresponding rising internal unrest and loss of confidence in political leadership."

July 18, 2012

Paul Craig Roberts

lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts355.html

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-18 9:36:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #540. To: All (#539)

Our Climate is now baked in.

We stop everything and we won't notice a difference until 2035.

" ... One of the most salient—but also, unfortunately, most counterintuitive—aspects of global warming is that it operates on what amounts to a time delay. Behind this summer’s heat are greenhouse gases emitted decades ago. Before many effects of today’s emissions are felt, it will be time for the Summer Olympics of 2048. (Scientists refer to this as the “commitment to warming.”)

What’s at stake is where things go from there.

[My note: if we could radically reverse our CO2 emissions today, which we can't, we would not be affecting the climate until the 2040s because of the built-in delay i.e. the commitment to warming.]"

peakwatch.typepad.com/decline_of_the_empire/

The January-June period was the warmest first half of any year on record for the contiguous United States, reports NOAA in its June 2012 overview. The national temperature of 52.9°F was 4.5°F (2.5°C) above average.

arctic-news.blogspot.com/

Welcome to your New World....the Anthropocene....for a little while.

Hoping for an Ice Age now.....;}

"Humans regard preserving the environment as a luxury they can not afford, especially when times are tough. As I have pointed out on numerous occasions, such a stance is indeed insane."

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-18 9:42:28 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-18   9:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1719. To: redleghunter (#1717)

Yeah we had some good rain this week. Toads all over the place:)

Hey, welcome back to the padded cell....

Here, let me whack you a few times.....;}

So the droughts over after you get 10 in in 3 hours....if that works for you...

you;re gonna love the Cat 5 Storm that's on the way.....;}

IF we stop everything Climate is baked in til 2035....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-18   9:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1720. To: mcgowanjm, Liberator, A K A Stone, rowdee, SJN (#1719)

So the droughts over after you get 10 in in 3 hours....if that works for you...

you;re gonna love the Cat 5 Storm that's on the way.....;}

IF we stop everything Climate is baked in til 2035....;}

Since it is your padded room, I must say your predictions have the same weight as a Santeria chicken gut ritual:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-18   15:25:00 ET  (22 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1721. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#543. To: Robin, Nolun Chan, All (#541)

Read this:

http://www.economic-undertow.com/

Neville Chamberlain, British ambassador Neville Henderson, German foreign minister Ribbentrop and Hitler at Munich. By 1946 all of these men were dead, all of the European countries and their economies were destroyed.

"If the country does not repudiate its debts, its money is unacceptable anyway as the money is proxy for nothing but unserviceable debts.

This non-acceptance is the end of the road … the end of all the roads.

By repudiating the debts all of the associated wealth is annihilated: wealth = debt. The problem is the foolish Europeans want to get rid of the debt and keep the wealth. They do not accept that, a) this cannot be done, and b) there is really no such thing as money-wealth.

What comes this way is the contest between the few, the mad men with their machines and their blandishments, their constant readiness to do the world ill for their immediate gain. On the other side of the contest is the void, a bloated dependent (over)population: here is the reason for overpopulation in the first place! Dependents dare not agitate without risking starvation, homelessness or withholding of institutional ‘benefits’. There is the loss of place, a generalized self-contempt, selfishness and institutionalized laziness. Not the stuff of revolutions or reform.

The mad men inch closer to self-immolation, to take the rest of the world with it. This is the end-game of industrialization, the promise of Valhalla the reality of a wasteland.

Keynes was wrong, in the short run we are all dead."

We have only months/weeks left for this 'Current 5 year Age' to end.

The Age of No Consequences.

When ALl Arguements are refuted and Ciolence is ALl that is left to the Mad Men.

"The current tragedy in Europe is unfolding with the same sense of dishonor and inevitability as during 1938. History may rhyme as Mark Twain once said, but it clearly is repeating itself, now. The establishments around the world insist on sacrificing others to the mad men. This strategy fails, appeasement makes these men bolder, they cannot be satiated or even evaded. Their ambition and reach has become universal, they are monsters. They must be destroyed, annihilated and all memories of them done away with. Their tools of destruction which they promote as ‘efficiency’ must be hammered flat and repudiated. "

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-19 9:12:32 ET (1 image)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-19   9:15:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1722. To: redleghunter (#1720) (Edited)

When your Jesus shows up the men above, your Masters, will kill him.

Your' God's an Idiot.

He should've sent this guy, instead of his Son with a Plan....of rules...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-19   9:20:52 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1723. To: A K A Stone (#0)

To: Robin

And another world war would do the same.

No. The Next WW lasts approx 12 hours and then devolves into Failed States Civil War.

Fragmentation/Isolation/ and Speed up of Peak Pollution to Climate Change.

5-10 years.

Syria is not strength, it's weakness for the USSA....;}

Non Linear:

"“Libyan style” fake fall of Damascus. Nato disinformation campaign + suicide attacks as a last attempt to make Assad fall By: By MKERone, Counterpsyops on: 19.07.2012 [08:43 ] (234 reads)

I will be away mourning the loss of the great commander and military genius Dawoud Rajha (article photo), I have positive information it wasn't a suicide bombing, but sabotage planned over 3 month, with small 2-4kilogram bomblets being put around the roof of the building where they met, opposite the house of the US ambassador and next to the Turkish embassy.

Situation in Damascus is very bad, but there's a good reason for this, this "catastrophic attack" threatened by Hillary Shiton was meant to take place in Ramadan but was forced to start now by the government to remove the threat at the UNSC.

I predict either the UNSC vote will be delayed, again by the zionist Kofi Annan, if it was to take place today, almost certain there will be a Russian veto. After this, the Americans will attempt to assassinate Bashar Al Assad himself, but as I've told people, there are three operating rooms in Lebanon, Iran and Syria that will run operations in such a case and it will likely be a trigger for all out war. Knowing this, israel is now ready to start war with Syria no matter what the consequences as there is no return to this campaign of destablisation.

The time for bone breaking has started. It is an open war. I'm not sure who was behind the Bulgarian israeli Mossad delegation bombing (they flew in on a chartered flight) but it's something to look forward to all over the world, I am hoping. -Syrian

mcgowanjm posted on [Today]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-19   10:06:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1724. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Actually, this public decision is only the tip of the iceberg. According to our information several international meetings were organized during the past week

061512-062212

to coordinate the disinformation campaign. The first two were technical meetings, held in Doha (Qatar); the third was a political meeting and took place in Riyad (Saudi Arabia).

The first meeting assembled PSYOP officers, embedded in the satellite TV channels of Al-Arabiya, Al-Jazeera, BBC, CNN, Fox, France 24, Future TV and MTV. It is known that since 1998, the officers of the US Army Psychological Operations Unit (PSYOP) have been incorporated in CNN. Since then this practice has been extended by NATO to other strategic media as well.

They fabricated false information in advance, on the basis of a “story-telling” script devised by Ben Rhodes’s team at the White House. A procedure of reciprocal validation was installed, with each media quoting the lies of the other media to render them plausible for TV spectators. The participants also decided not only to requisition the TV channels of the CIA for Syria and Lebanon (Barada, Future TV, MTV, Orient News, Syria Chaab, Syria Alghad) but also about 40 religious Wahhabi TV channels to call for confessional massacres to the cry of “Christians to Beyrouth, Alawites into the grave!.”

The second meeting was held for engineers and technicians to fabricate fictitious images, mixing one part in an outdoor studio, the other part with computer generated images. During the past weeks, studios in Saudi Arabia have been set up to build replicas of the two presidential palaces in Syria and the main squares of Damascus, Aleppo and Homs. Studios of this type already exist in Doha (Qatar), but they are not sufficient.

The third meeting was held by General James B. Smith, the US ambassador, a representative of the UK, prince Bandar Bin Sultan (whom former U.S. president George Bush named his adopted son so that the U.S. press called him “Bandar Bush”). In this meeting the media actions were coordinated with those of the Free “Syrian” Army, in which prince Bandar’s mercenaries play a decisive role.

The operation had been in the making for several months, but the U.S. National Security Council decided to accelerate the action after the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, notified the White House that he would oppose by all means, even by force, any illegal NATO military intervention in Syria.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-19   11:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1725. To: mcgowanjm (#1721)

"The current tragedy in Europe is unfolding with the same sense of dishonor and inevitability as during 1938. History may rhyme as Mark Twain once said, but it clearly is repeating itself, now. The establishments around the world insist on sacrificing others to the mad men. This strategy fails, appeasement makes these men bolder, they cannot be satiated or even evaded. Their ambition and reach has become universal, they are monsters. They must be destroyed, annihilated and all memories of them done away with. Their tools of destruction which they promote as ‘efficiency’ must be hammered flat and repudiated. "

Now you are getting somewhere. But I am sure we disagree on how it gets fixed. Only Jesus Christ can heal all this madness, sin and destruction.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-19   11:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1726. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The hampering of TV satellites for military purposes is not new. Under pressure from Israel, the USA and the EU blocked Lebanese, Palestinian, Iraqi, Libyan and Iranian TV channels, one after the other. However, no satellite channels from other parts of the world were censured.

The broadcast of false news is also not new, but four significant steps have been taken in the art of propaganda during the last decade. • In 1994, a pop music station named “Free Radio of the Thousand Hills” (RTML) gave the signal for genocide in Rwanda with the cry, “Kill the cockroaches!” • In 2001, NATO used the media to impose an interpretation of the 9/11 attacks and to justify its own aggression against Afghanistan and Iraq. At that time already, it was Ben Rhodes who had been commissioned by the Bush administration to concoct the Kean/Hamilton Commission report on the attacks. • In 2002, the CIA used five TV channels (Televen, Globovision, ValeTV and CMT) to make the public in Venezuela believe that phantom demonstrators had captured the elected president, Hugo Chávez, forcing him to resign. In reality he was the victim of a military coup d’etat. • In 2011, France 24 served as information ministry for the Libyan CNT, according to a signed contract. During the battle of Tripoli, NATO produced fake studio films, then transmitted them via Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya, showing phantom images of Libyan rebels on the central square of the capital city, while in reality they were still far away. As a consequence, the inhabitants of Tripoli were persuaded that the war was lost and gave up all resistance.

Nowadays the media do not only support a war, they produce it themselves.

h ttp://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/07/whats-really-going-on-in-syria-update-2.html

"There's only one problem with mainstream news reports above about the Damascus bombing and likewise the response of the U.S. government to this news.

"It appears that no such bombing at the Syrian National Security Headquarters actually took place.

" BBC News started to ascertain that something was seriously amiss right after Syrian national TV reported the bombing:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-19   11:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1727. To: mcgowanjm (#1724)

It is known that since 1998, the officers of the US Army Psychological Operations Unit (PSYOP) have been incorporated in CNN. Since then this practice has been extended by NATO to other strategic media as well.

You are hitting some key issues lately. I have to correct it a bit. Those that are referred to as "US Army Psyop" are former or retired not active duty.

Interesting the spider webs the Odinga admin is weaving in the ME. Almost as if he thinks of himself a vassal of the Saud.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-19   11:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1728. To: redleghunter (#1725)

Now you are getting somewhere. But I am sure we disagree on how it gets fixed. Only Jesus Christ can heal all this madness, sin and destruction.

And I'm sure we disagree on who the Mad Men are....;}

ONly if your God sends Josey this time.

And a btw....

How come Jesus didn't keep coming up with those 'loaves and fishes'.

As well as the Wine....Hey, Jesus! Another bottle of your finest, please.....;}

Try to feed the poor, you're a hero.

Ask why the poor are hungry and you're a terrorist....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-19   11:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1729. To: mcgowanjm (#1726)

Nowadays the media do not only support a war, they produce it themselves.

It does seem the American Hollywood media has been hawkish the past 3 years or so given they love Odinga.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-19   12:00:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1730. To: mcgowanjm (#1728)

Try to feed the poor, you're a hero.

Ask why the poor are hungry and you're a terrorist....;}

You were doing fine there for a bit. But now I see it is time for you to take a quick drive down to the pharmacy.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-19   12:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1731. To: redleghunter (#1727)

Those that are referred to as "US Army Psyop" are former or retired not active duty.

At That level,

you never retire....;}

Press Briefing by Lael Brainard, Mike Froman, and Ben Rhodes ... www.whitehouse.gov/.../pr...brainard-mike-froman-an...

Jun 15, 2012 – And of course you know Ben Rhodes, Deputy National Security Advisor ... so this is a chance for the two leaders to check signals about the summit agenda. .... as over-the-counter derivatives and cross-border bank resolution.

PressTV - 'Aljazeera, Alarabiya play as Hollywood soundstage in ... presstv.com/detail/2012/0...play-wests-game-on-syria/

7 hours ago – Armed gangs fighting against the government of Syrian President Bashar ... This operation, let us call it the Ben Rhodes operation, I am sure that this is ... but operation Ben Rhodes, according to my count has been operational ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-19   12:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1732. To: redleghunter (#1730) (Edited)

Yes.....Like I've said.

Once you fall out with a Baptist,

you fit one of two edges of their 'reality' spectrum:

Mental/Insane or Devil's Spawn....;}

Makes it easy for you guys in the Political Science (or Creationism @ Baylor;) Dept. ....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-19   12:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1733. To: mcgowanjm, rowdee, SJN, A K A Stone, Liberator (#1732)

Yes.....Like I've said.

Once you fall out with a Baptist,

you fit one of two edges of their 'reality' spectrum:

Mental/Insane or Devil's Spawn....;}

Makes it easy for you guys in the Political Science (or Creationism @ Baylor;) Dept. ....8D

Ah, so you are asking for Big Daddy today:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-19   12:35:14 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1734. To: redleghunter (#1733)

lol, that's going to hurt.

smackdown ; ))

SJN  posted on  2012-07-19   12:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1735. To: A K A Stone (#0)

'Something's changed here'......ya think?.....;}

"R. Gates

This early anomaly drop below 2 million sq. km. is significant for several reasons.

Back in 2007, you had all sort of people, both AGW skeptics, as well those who should know better, suggest that 2007 was simply an aberration, or a "one off" event caused by the "perfect storm" of conditions-- meaning of course that there was not a long-term dynamic going on that should have caused 2007's rather dramatic decline. Then we saw slightly higher minimums in 2008 and 2009, leading some to suggest a "recovery" was underway. Folks like Joe Bastardi were even predicting that we'd see a return to the sea ice condtions of the 1970's. What we've seen indicated in 2010, 2011, and now 2012, is that 2007 was not an aberration in the black swan sense, but in the dragon-king sense. A black swan is a simple aberration that is highly improbable, but still can occur with the right set of circumstances. A dragon-king event is a tipping-point event that indicates that some new regime has begun. 2007 indicated that the Arctic sea ice had entered a new regime, and the much lower lows were coming sooner than any of the models had shown as possible.

How could the models have been so wrong? First, models cannot really predict dragon-king events. The prediction of a regime change for a dynamic non-linear system simply can't be shown in models. Obviously one of the missing ingredients of the models is a full accounting of all ways that energy enters the Arctic and affects the total volume of sea ice. The net energy flow to the Arctic has been increasing for many years through multiple channels, some of which have strongly interacting positive feedback processes. 2007 represented a cascading series of feedbacks that brought about the extremely low years. Even thought the energy mix between 2007 and 2012 is different, the net energy flow and total enthalpy of the Arctic changed to a new regime in 2007 and has been increasing ever since. The upshot of all this is that 2012 is continued confirmation that 2007 was not a black swan, but a dragon-king. 2012 is in the direct line of inheritance from that dragon-king and the new regime that is rapidly becoming apparent in the Arctic. The years prior to 2007 were the set-up for the entrance of the dragon-king. 2007 was the dragon-king, and 2012 is proving to be of royal blood.

Note: Understanding the difference between dragon-king events and black swan events is critical on a planet possibly undergoing as rapid of changes as we might see in the next years, decades, and centuries (depending of course on what we humans do.) Spotting simple on-off extremely unlikely events versus true regime-change or tipping point events is of key importance. Suggested reading:

http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.4290/

Posted by: R. Gates | July 19, 2012 at 20:36 Bfraser

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-20   7:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1736. To: A K A Stone (#0)

An example of the evil that the USSA is:

To penalize war criminal ‘Dostam’ will be a great step towards insuring social justice! - E-mail Print PDF Friday, 01 Ramadan 1433 Friday, 20 July 2012 08:55

1-ghThose who oppress the aggrieved, verily sees admonitory punishment for their oppression. Taken from the Pharaoh of the sons of Israel to the Pharaoh (Abu Jihl-the father of ignorance) all of them have seen different retributions for their cruelties. Allah has taken severe revenge on them all the times and has healed the hearts the aggrieved ones by destroying the tyrants and this sequence is going on likewise.

Every member of our exasperated nation knows Dostam as a despotic, cruel, tyrant, cannibal, man-killer and the murderer of Afghans. He was not only a stooge in the hands of foreigners during the then Soviet Union tyrannical invasion but also martyred a great number of innocent Afghans to defend the invaders. He made them defective and wounded. He killed a large number of youth, widowed the woman and orphaned the children. He is the ruthless beast who was heading the special barbaric militia, who was internationally well known for their robbery, looting and massacre. They knew no Afghan honor or reputation nor any zeal, courage or manliness. They entered the homes of Afghans just like the present savage Americans; used to kill the Afghan infants in their cradles ruthlessly!!!

When the communist regime was collapsed in the capital city Kabul by the grace of Allah Almighty, it was Dostam who started making military alliances for the destruction of this beautiful city. ..."

# # Karzai Restores Gen. Dostum to Position as Army Chief -- News ... http://news.antiwar.com/.../karzai-restores-gen-dostum-to-position-as-army...

Jan 26, 2010 – Back again like a bad penny, one of Afghanistan's most notorious warlords, General Abdul Rashid Dostum, has been restored to his position as ... # Clinton, warlord Dostum are honored guests at Karzai fete « RAWA ... http://www.rawa.org/.../runews/.../clinton-warlord-dostum-are-honored-gu...

Nov 19, 2009 – On the other side was Abdul Rashid Dostum, the Afghan warlord who's become a ... News from the Revolutionary Association of the Women of ...

Can there be Any doubt of who did 9/11.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-20   8:20:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1737. To: All (#1736)

Dostum more than any other man in the Afghans benefitted from the tv camera assassination of the

Ahmad Shah Massoud | Afghanistan's Lion of Panjshir http://asianhistory.about.com/.../Biography-Of-Ahmad-Shah-Massoud-Lio...

Biography of Ahmad Shah Massoud, the Lion of Panjshir, the mujahadeen commander ... the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the Taliban, and was assassinated by ... Suddenly, the TV camera carried by the "reporters" explodes with terrific ...

Two days before 9/11.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-20   8:23:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1738. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#550. To: All (#549)

How could the models have been so wrong? First, models cannot really predict dragon-king events. The prediction of a regime change for a dynamic non-linear system simply can't be shown in models. Obviously one of the missing ingredients of the models is a full accounting of all ways that energy enters the Arctic and affects the total volume of sea ice. The net energy flow to the Arctic has been increasing for many years through multiple channels, some of which have strongly interacting positive feedback processes. 2007 represented a cascading series of feedbacks that brought about the extremely low years. Even thought the energy mix between 2007 and 2012 is different, the net energy flow and total enthalpy of the Arctic changed to a new regime in 2007 and has been increasing ever since. The upshot of all this is that 2012 is continued confirmation that 2007 was not a black swan, but a dragon-king. 2012 is in the direct line of inheritance from that dragon-king and the new regime that is rapidly becoming apparent in the Arctic. The years prior to 2007 were the set-up for the entrance of the dragon-king. 2007 was the dragon-king, and 2012 is proving to be of royal blood. "

"We develop the concept of ``dragon-kings'' corresponding to meaningful outliers, which are found to coexist with power laws in the distributions of event sizes under a broad range of conditions in a large variety of systems. These dragon-kings reveal the existence of mechanisms of self-organization that are not apparent otherwise from the distribution of their smaller siblings. We present a generic phase diagram to explain the generation of dragon-kings and document their presence in six different examples (distribution of city sizes, distribution of acoustic emissions associated with material failure, distribution of velocity increments in hydrodynamic turbulence, distribution of financial drawdowns, distribution of the energies of epileptic seizures in humans and in model animals, distribution of the earthquake energies). We emphasize the importance of understanding dragon-kings as being often associated with a neighborhood of what can be called equivalently a phase transition, a bifurcation, a catastrophe (in the sense of Rene Thom), or a tipping point. The presence of a phase transition is crucial to learn how to diagnose in advance the symptoms associated with a coming dragon-king."

Didier Sornette

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-20 8:32:15 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-20   8:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1739. To: redleghunter (#1733)

No. I have Zero interest in your cartoons.

I read your first sentence.

If it makes sense, I continue.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-20   8:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1740. To: All (#1739)

Friday, July 20, 2012 Jeff Masters: Record warmth at the top of Greenland Ice Sheet by Jeff Masters, WunderBlog, July 18, 2012

The coldest place in Greenland, and often the entire Northern Hemisphere, is commonly the Summit Station. Located at the top of the Greenland Ice Sheet, 10,552 feet (3,207 meters) above sea level, and 415 miles (670 km) north of the Arctic Circle, Summit rarely sees temperatures that rise above the freezing mark. In the 12-year span 2000-2011, Summit temperatures rose above freezing only four times, according to weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera. But remarkably, over the past week, temperatures at Summit have eclipsed the freezing mark on five days, including four days in a row from July 11 to 14. There are actually three weather stations located at the location -- Summit, Summit-US, and Summit AWS. The highest reliable temperature measured at any of the three stations is now the 3.6 °C (38.5 °F) measured on Monday, July 16, 2012, at Summit-US. A 4.4 °C reading at Summit in May 2010 is bogus, as can be seen by looking at the adjacent station. Similarly, a 3.3 °C reading from June 2004 is also bad. Records at Summit began in 1996.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-20   8:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1741. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Meantime, preliminary records from NCDC showed 145 high temperature records broken Wednesday and 67 records tied in 23 states: Connecticut, Georgia, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Virginia, Vermont, Wisconsin and West Virginia.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-20   9:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1742. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Deflation is only bad for those with crushing debts and no ability to borrow more. Since the Federal government (like the government of Japan) can always borrow more, those buying the debt are assured of a low-risk income stream that can then be used to buy other deflating assets.

Everyone assuming the Federal government has the power to create inflation and that inflation is "good" should examine the interests of those who control the government's policies, i.e. those who own the debt.

Put another way: here's what will be scarce: reliable income streams and liquidity.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-20   11:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1743. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.zerohedge.com/news/gu...everyone+drops+to+zero%29

"At first the Fed used open market operations illegally. It could get away with it because of the connivance of the Treasury in ‘forgetting’ to collect the penalty. The conspiracy created a fait accompli and, in the end, Congress was forced to legalize the corrosive practice retroactively in 1935 when it amended the Federal Reserve Act.

A bond issuer is short a bond. Unlike a homeowner who takes out a mortgage on his house, a bond issuer cannot simply “refinance”. If it wants to pay off the debt, it must buy the bonds back in the market, at the current market price.

Let’s repeat that. Anyone who issues a bond is short a security and that security can go up in price as well as go down in price.

The newly invented monetary policy of open market operations is responsible for much of the deflationary damage inflicted on the world economy during the Great Depression of the 1930’s. It started an avalanche of falling interest rates that soon went out of control. Falling interest rates destroy capital as they increase the burden of debt contracted earlier at higher rates. Perfectly sound businesses fail if their debt burden, through no fault of theirs, exceeds the profitability of deployed capital. The whole process was most insidious. Entrepreneurs did not know what hit them. From one day to the next they found themselves uncompetitive as competitors financed their business at lower rates. They had to lay off their employees. They went bankrupt in droves. Wanton destruction of capital was the main cause of deflation and the Great Depression in the 1930’s."

The bottom 50 percent of American households hold just 1.1 percent of the nation’s wealth, after its share declined steadily following the financial crisis, a report from the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service found. The richest one percent, meanwhile, hold 34.5 percent of the wealth, as the chart below shows. The top 10 percent’s share of wealth has risen over the last two decades, the report found, but it has fallen for households in every group below that."

thinkprogress.org/page/2/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-21   8:41:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1744. To: A K A Stone (#0)

So our deniers have predicted that since global warming is a hoax, we should not see any warming trend when we look at recorded temperatures across the globe. Our alarmists, of course, predict the opposite. And since both sides agree that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is a credible source to rely on for climate science information, we turn to NOAA's ClimateWatch Magazine for this online article from June 14, 2012:

• The average global temperature (land and ocean) for May 2012 was the second warmest May temperature since recordkeeping began in 1880, and the temperature over land surfaces was the warmest on record for May. • May 2012 also marks the 327th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th-century average. • The last month with below average temperatures was February 1985. • The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for May 2012 was more than 1°F above the 20th century average. • This was also the 36th consecutive May with a global temperature above the 20th century average. • The last May with a below-average temperature was May 1976. • The global land surface temperature was more than 2°F above the 20th century average, making it the all-time warmest May on record. • Most areas of the world experienced much warmer-than-average monthly temperatures, including nearly all of Europe, Asia, northern Africa, most of North America, and southern Greenland.

Of course, since we are now in July, we now have 328 consecutive months of above average temperatures. And next month, it will be 329 and so on.

Dr. Ricky Rood took a look at the odds of registering "327 months in a row above the average temperature of the 20th century."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-21   22:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1745. To: mcgowanjm (#1744)

Yoem Pyo Lee

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-22   0:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1746. To: A K A Stone (#0)

SPANISH GOVERNMENT GENERIC BONDS - 10 YR NOTE Add to Portfolio (No thanks....got enough junk.....;}

GSPG10YR:IND

7.26700 0.25600 3.65%

"Spanish 10-year bond yields soared to 7.22% intraday on worries the country will be forced to seek a full-fledged sovereign bailout owing to its debt burden. The country announced last weekend that it would cut 56.4 billion euros, $69 billion, from its deficit by 2015 by raising taxes and cutting spending, which sparked public protests.

"The market has priced in the possibility of a full sovereign bailout for Spain, especially since gross domestic product growth for 2013 has been revised down to -0.5% from +0.2%," Kathy Lien, a foreign currency analyst, wrote in http://Forexpros.com."

http://news.investors.com/investing/etf.htm

"The market has priced in the possibility of a full sovereign bailout for Spain."

No. The market has done No such thing.

Because a full sovereign bailout for Spain is impossible.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-22   7:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1747. To: A K A Stone (#1745)

The Colorado Massacre will disappear from the USSA MSM in two weeks.

As will Yoem.

I'm more interested in who would bring a 4 month old baby to a Midnite Movie.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-22   7:23:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1748. To: mcgowanjm (#1747)

I'm more interested in who would bring a 4 month old baby to a Midnite Movie.

Are you stupid? There is nothing wrong with that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-22   9:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1749. To: A K A Stone (#0)

No attempt is made, or can be made, by official circles to explain or plumb the depths of such social bitterness and pent-up anger. The results would be too damning for those making the study........... ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-22   9:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1750. To: A K A Stone, All (#1748) (Edited)

I'm more interested in who would bring a 4 month old baby to a Midnite Movie.

Are you stupid? There is nothing wrong with that.

Anyone else here agree with Stone.

Cause I want to make sure I'm not leaving anyone at LF out of this....;}

I'll give it, say 15/20 min....for replies.....;}

This'll be good.....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-22   9:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1751. To: mcgowanjm (#1750)

'm more interested in who would bring a 4 month old baby to a Midnite Movie.

You're not interested that a man murders several Americans. You're more worried about someone taking a baby to a movie late at night.

Lame.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-22   10:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1752. To: A K A Stone (#1748)

I'm more interested in who would bring a 4 month old baby to a Midnite Movie.

Are you stupid? There is nothing wrong with that.

First:

Absolutely ZERO consideration being given to the other movie goers having to put up with a screaming baby.

I demand my money back at the first outburst.'

Second:

Child Care. These parents should've thought about abortion if their needs to do Midnite Noise Entertainment would conflict with the child's needs.

Third:

Drop the question mark.

Are you stupid. That you think this is acceptable.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-22   10:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1753. To: mcgowanjm (#1752)

I agree with you if the baby is crying. But otherwise I don't.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-22   10:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1754. To: A K A Stone (#1753)

I agree with you if the baby is crying. But otherwise I don't.

Between 12 and 3 AM?

In a crowd with explosions/noise?

OF course the baby's crying.

IF a theatre allows anyone younger than 3 inside a movie, I ain't goin'.

Spend $20 to Work for the atmosphere to enjoy something I'll be seeing in 6 weeks in my own home?

please.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-22   10:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1755. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Why would you expect anything else.....;}

Print Pentagon: Can't confirm Bulgaria bomber was at Guantanamo

By AUSTIN WRIGHT | 7/19/12 1:51 PM EDT

A Pentagon spokesman said Thursday he could not rule out the possibility that a suicide bomber who attacked a group of Israeli tourists in Bulgaria on Wednesday was formerly held by the United States at the Gitmo detention facility in Cuba.

“I’m aware of reports that we’re recently seeing out of the region,” said Pentagon spokesman George Little. “I cannot confirm those reports at this time.”

On Thursday, Bulgarian media reports identified the alleged bomber as 36-year-old Mehdi Ghezali, according Israeli media reports. Ghezali, a Swedish citizen, was detained for two years at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, the Israeli news website, Times of Israel, reported.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-22   10:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1756. To: mcgowanjm (#1754)

OF course the baby's crying.

Actually babies can sleep through noise.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-22   11:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1757. To: A K A Stone (#0)

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=SI&cot=084691&p=h1

IF silver can't get above $27, then breaks $26.....

$15 by September.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-23   9:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1758. To: A K A Stone (#1756)

OF course the baby's crying.

Actually babies can sleep through noise.

Yes, I'm sure.

And bombs if it has to.

But the ENvironment will completely re wire the babies nervous system.

It'll be trouble/in trouble form then on.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-23   9:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1759. To: A K A Stone (#0)

In Lebanon, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah recalled the brotherhood of arms uniting Hezbollah and Syria against Zionist expansionism, and assured the Syrian Army of its support.

The bomb attack was the signal for the second part of the operation. Commandos infiltrated the capital, then attacked various more or less chosen targets. Thus, a group of about a hundred Contras attacked the house adjacent to my apartment in the cry of Allah Akbar. A senior military official resides there. Ten hours of uninterrupted fighting ensued.

Whereas at the beginning of the night, the Army responded with measure , the order was later given to use force without restraint. It was no longer a question of fighting against terrorists destabilizing Syria, but of saving the country facing an undeclared alien invasion.

Aircraft went into action to destroy columns of mercenaries heading to the capital.

By late morning, calm was gradually returning to the city. The Contras and their collaborators were forced to withdraw everywhere. Traffic was resuming on major roads, and checkpoints were installed in the city center. Life was returning to normal. However, we still hear scattered gunfire here and there. Most businesses are closed, and there are long queues outside bakeries.

Everyone expects that the final assault will be launched on the night of Thursday to Friday and all day Friday. There is no doubt that the Syrian army will emerge victorious again, the power relationship being to its advantage. The conscript army is supported by the population, including the domestic political opposition.

As expected, Arabsat and Nilesat had disconnected the Ad-Dunya television signal in the middle of the afternoon. The Twitter account of Ad-Dounia has been hacked by the CIA in order to disseminate false messages announcing a retreat of the Syrian Army.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-23   20:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1760. To: A K A Stone (#0)

" Over the last few weeks, a number of my fellow peak oil writers have expressed worries about this outpouring of counterfactual drivel. Myself, I find it a very hopeful sign. What we are seeing is the shattering of the consensus that has excluded any discussion of peak oil from the collective conversation of our time. Plenty of pundits who refused to talk about peak oil at all are now talking about it incessantly. Even though they’re screeching at the top of their lungs that it can’t happen, and scrabbling around for any argument, however feeble or blatantly false, they can use to back up that proposition, they’re still talking about it."

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...n-far-side-of-denial.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-23   21:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1761. To: A K A Stone (#0)

we standardly assume that technology solves all problems. I concluded [ in the No Way Out? paper ] that this usually implicit assumption should be tossed out... Amy Jaffe explicitly stated the assumption in an interview on the PBS Newshour. Well, you know, we, in the American public, we are a big believer that there's a science and technology solution to everything — everything. So — and it was really amazing that the industry — we were sort of running out of oil onshore, and the industry was able to go out to the depths of the earth, under the sea, and keep us driving around in our cars. So, to sit here night after night and watch all these scientists unable to close a simple pipeline, even though it's a very complex engineering problem, as a layperson, when you sit here and watch the oil just spewing out of this pipeline... It's just this horror movie, like we cannot believe that there isn't a technology to close this pipeline. And we, as Americans, believe there's a technological solution to everything. And the idea that we're going to have to wait until August for the technological solution, I think it's just got people just gripped in terror. Amy is so terrified by the prospect that technology doesn't solve all problems that she starts repeating herself.

The alert reader will note that I wrote (back in early 2010) that the Assumption of Technological Progress should be tossed out. That usage was disingenuous. I would never use the word "should" today because my view, then and now, is that technological optimism is built right into Homo sapiens. Perhaps I was offering a fig leaf of hope, but I don't do that anymore. I am far more apt to write text like this, which appeared in my post Techno-Optimists Running Wild!

Human love for technology is second only to our love of money. If humans can replace thousands of fellow humans with some machinery which does the same thing those inferior humans were doing, they'll make that "positive" choice in a heartbeat. More money and machines too? You can't beat that!

Let's face it, technology is the only thing Homo sapiens is good at. The historical record makes it entirely clear that humans can't govern themselves, don't understand themselves, and can't change their own fundamental behaviors. For example, they can't just say No when given the opportunity to apply some technology and destroy the lives of all those fellow (albeit inferior) humans just mentioned. Technology is the solution to all problems, even when a problem does not exist, or the technology itself creates far more problems than it solves. Technology Über Alles."

DOTE

decline of the Empire peakwatch

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-24   8:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1762. To: All (#1761)

Slaughter In Iraq As 145 Are Killed And 379 More Are Wounded Margaret Griffis

July 22, 2012 - A second day of intensified attacks left at least 145 Iraqis Killed and 379 more wounded. The attacks, mostly bombings, seemed to focus on security personnel in Sunni-dominated areas. Several more bombs were defused, while others exploded without leaving casualties. A large number of attacks and casualties always leads to conflicting figures as separate authorities report different numbers. Also, more casualties are expected in at least Taji where bombs demolished several residential buildings...

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A Note on how even and especially progressive media (USSAMSM simple ignores it;) is Confused about Insurgent Tactics.....

Mainly because it has Internalized the USSA MSM message.

Today there's a lot fewer USSA MErcs patrolling IRaq than there were three days ago.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-24   8:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1763. To: All (#1762)

It is believed that NATO and the Gulf State's FSA terrorist proxies have reached the very limit of their ability to destabilize Syria and the West recognizes the necessity of limited strikes to cripple a Syrian government that remains intact, coherent, and far from "crumbling" as the Western media has tried, but failed to portray. Veteran Indian diplomat, M K Bhadrakumar, wrote as much in his most recent analysis titled, "The rise and fall of Turkey's Erdogan."

However, a pretext for such strikes must be fabricated - and there have been stark warnings from analysts and international press from around the world of a possible false-flag chemical weapons attack staged by NATO and its proxies to be then blamed on the Syrian government, and give NATO, Israel, and the Gulf States the impetus they've sought for a wider military intervention.

The hysterical rhetoric coming from the West is directly proportional to the failing fortunes of their terrorist proxies on the ground across Syria.

landdestroyer.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-24   9:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1764. To: All (#1763)

Wider UNSC dissension, Turkish offensive against its own "rebels," and Iraq's rejection of latest "Arab League" statement before massive Al Qaeda attacks. by Tony Cartalucci

July 23, 2012 - Scratching just below the surface of the Western media's headlines are stories carrying greater implications - stories the West believes are better left untold.

"Operation Damascus Volcano" Followed Weeks of Warnings of Impending NATO Psy-Op.

Beginning last week, headlines were overrun by a coordinated NATO-backed "Free Syrian Army" (FSA) offensive and an assassination bombing in Damascus, timed so close to each other and the UN Security Council vote on sanctions, the vote was pushed back a day. The attacks dubbed, "Operation Damascus Volcano" were clearly coordinated with the assassination bombing, designed for psychological impact, and when Syrians reacted with resolve, they quickly collapsed.

What went unreported until over a week later, were warnings of a potential NATO psychological warfare operation, matching hijacked satellite channels broadcasting false reports with an initially violent but ultimately futile militant offensive to stampede the Syrian government out of power on a wave of confusion and panic. It appears "Damascus Volcano" was just that operation.

The Western media would not cover this story until a week later, when security operations in Damascus concluded in the favor of the government and Syrian state television repeatedly made warnings to its viewers about further potential disinformation campaigns. Even then, reports were limited to "Tweets" by Western journalists and headlines in China's English news.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-24   9:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1765. To: All (#1764)

Sweet Jesus....

None of these attacks were 'random'.

They All had Military targets..... Any exception merely proves the rule.

Simultaneous Two Day Bombing from North to South. The USSA will lose Iraq by Xmas.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-24   9:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1766. To: All (#1765)

And now the Domestic Mirror of the Foreign....

Again....over by Xmas....;}

"Although unlike HSBC, the NAR's money laundering at least leads to benefits for everyone, in the form of perpetuating the delusion that US real estate is fairly priced in when a few robber barons from around the world become indiscriminate marginal price settlers eager to put their money in the "safety" of the US. And lately, with the latest forced delusion being that US real estate has bottomed and is rising even as the global economy is decelerating at the fastest pace in the past 3 years, the NAR serves a handy purpose: it provides a reflexive way of misrepresenting the underlying trends in real estate, suckering the marginal fool in once again, as it did throughout the period between 2000 and 2007.

www.zerohedge.com/news/no...everyone+drops+to+zero%29

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-24   9:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1767. To: All (#1766)

Note again how the Recession blamed on 9/11 starts in May... sunken pace of residential construction spending in May was $268 billion – essentially the same levels seen in 1997. This profoundly low level of activity is not limited to the residential sector; spending on commercial structures is currently the same as in 1996.

In other words, instead of "housing recovery" a much better phrase would be "the rich are getting richer", and everyone else can go suck a lollipop and watch their wealth evaporate courtesy of Z/NIRP.

www.zerohedge.com/news/no...everyone+drops+to+zero%29

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-24   9:46:16 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1768. To: A K A Stone (#0)

by Iranian-Revolutionary-guards on 24.07.2012 [11:29 ] His knowledge of what Syria and Iran possess is childish or he is spreading Propaganda. The ending of world war 3(most people call armageddon) will occur within 5 months before 2012 is over.

I stated that on my youtube page and elsewhere on youtube last year. My youtube id is worldcomingtoend.

Iran possess over 500 nuclear weapons. 250 of of them came from Ukraine over 10 years ago before Ukraine was suppose to hand them over to Russia and get nothing in Return. Iran's first 4 nukes came from Khazakstan back in late 1991 and early 1992 right after the soviet union break up. those are facts.

My brother is married to a ukranian woman and that woman's father used to work for ukraine's intelligence. I verified it with him. Iran did not just get 250 nukes. it got lots of missiles and lots of advanced radar and more importantly, ukranian scientists and know how.

I know Iron clay will say where is your link? he is that childish to think iranians will advertise having nukes. I have high ranking members of IRGC in my family and i knew iran got its first nukes about 20 years ago within months of it happening.

Some of Iranian nukes have been placed in Syria, Lebanon(hezbollah terrority). Venezuela and 2 other south/central american countries which i dont want to get into right now.

Iran has had nuclear submarines near US east coast for over 2 years. I know iron clay the childish amateurish will question my sources. His sources are Jane's defense, google, wiki, msm and other crappy zionist and imperialist bs. My info is inside info.

my sources are my family members who work for the Revolutionary guards. iran has placed missiles with nukes in Venezuela and 2 other latin american countries.

United States, canada and the rest of nato scum will be vaporized within 5 months.

If i am wrong in 5 months, i will come on this board and tell you i was wrong but i wont be. this site and the internet will not exist for a long time after armageddon."

Don;t know about the 'armageddon' bit, except that Israel seems to be really trying to start something....;}

But I've always believed the following. The Ukraine NEver passes on a chance for Free Billions.....;}

"

Iran possess over 500 nuclear weapons. 250 of of them came from Ukraine over 10 years ago before Ukraine was suppose to hand them over to Russia and get nothing in Return. Iran's first 4 nukes came from Khazakstan back in late 1991 and early 1992 right after the soviet union break up. those are facts."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-24   11:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1769. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The USSA MSM is lying to you.

The truth replaced by silence is evil.....;}

"Son Nghiem of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., was analyzing radar data from the Indian Space Research Organisation’s (ISRO) Oceansat-2 satellite last week when he noticed that most of Greenland appeared to have undergone surface melting on July 12. Nghiem said, “This was so extraordinary that at first I questioned the result: was this real or was it due to a data error?”

Not. A. Word....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   6:57:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1770. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Title: EU upgrades Israel because ‘nobody wants fuss’ with Jewish community or Washington URL Source: mondoweiss.net/2012/07/eu-up ... h-community-or-washington.html Post Date: 2012-07-24 10:51:20 by Robin Keywords: None Views: 14 Comments: 6

by Philip Weiss on July 24, 2012

Readers ask why I focus on the American Jewish community. Because I think it holds the key.

Phoebe Greenwood in the Guardian on Europe's mixed message to Israel:

The EU will offer Israel upgraded trade and diplomatic relations in more than 60 areas at a high-level meeting in Brussels on Tuesday, just weeks after European foreign ministers warned that Israeli policies in the West Bank "threaten to make a two-state solution impossible"....

One senior EU diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that despite private complaints of the inconsistency of chastising Israel with one hand while rewarding it with the other, not one minister was prepared to oppose Tuesday's agreement.

"I was struck by the fact that a whole range of relations was offered to Israel – at the request of Israel – as if nothing is happening on the ground," the diplomat said. "Most ministers are too afraid to speak out in case they are singled out as being too critical towards Israel, because, in the end, relations with Israel are on the one hand relations with the Jewish community at large and on the other hand with Washington – nobody wants to have fuss with Washington. So [ministers] are fine with making political statements but they refrain from taking concrete action."

This piece serves my contention that the Israel lobby is central to the dysfunction, and that my own work involves issues of community self-interest: persuading western Jews that Jewish sovereignty in the Middle East is undermining our safety, not enhancing it. And hurting lots of other folks too.

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#1. To: Robin (#0)

Empires never know when they hit overreach.

If only they had stopped at (fill in the blank).....;}

Hubris.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:04:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: All (#1)

And just exactly how does the imploding EU help anyone....;}

"We all know the story in Europe. The peripheral EZ economies are in freefall as private/public credit evaporates and unemployment soars, while the backlash against blatant wealth extraction, a.k.a. “austerity”, has reached epic proportions. Greece is closer than ever to saying “SHOVE IT” and leaving the Union. So what happens after that??

Europe will be F.U.B.A.R., that’s what. Capital exodus, financial contagion, hyperinflation, social unrest, civil war – you name it – it’s all on the table. What if Greece manages to stay in and none of this happens? Does that mean everything is all better and the crisis point has been averted? Go ahead – sit back, relax and give it a few more weeks or months, but just remember that you will NEVER know when it will hit you like a MACK truck – only that it most certainly will."

"Last and certainly least on my list of countries to rant against is the United States. This place is an amalgamation of the worst aspects of every other country. It’s a financially-fragile, energy-dependent, consumerist-minded, generationally-entitled, politically-fractured, demographically-f**ked imperial police state. We may make it to November elections in relative peace just because our crony political establishment and media spin machines will pull out every trick play in their playbooks to keep the mind-numbingly ignorant population with blinders on until then. After that, all bets are off."

www.doomsteaddiner.org/bl...5/planet-earth-f-u-b-a-r/

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:09:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #3. To: All (#2)

So the EU subsidizes Israel while starving it's own....

"– Fuel prices money. Right now money represents fuel-using-activities which have been promoted as highly fashionable by the marketing industry. Coming soon is money representing the fuel itself. We are almost there. The outcome is nasty. Whether Bernanke understands this is uncertain. He is a very smart dude but says little about energy, the rest of the establishment lies through its teeth about energy. "

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:16:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #4. To: All (#3)

The following 10 countries -- all of them burgeoning new petrostates -- make the winner's list because, even if they ultimately botch the moment and send most of the profit into private Swiss bank accounts, the coming energy boom gives them a much greater chance at big economic prosperity: Cyprus, Ethiopia, French Guiana, Israel, Kenya, Mozambique, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Tanzania, and Uganda. "

See a pattern there?.....;}

oilandglory.foreignpolicy..._the_coming_age_of_plenty

Never happen.....

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:18:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #5. To: All (#4)

"Unenlightened petrocrats: Oil prices could be lower and volatile in a world of surplus. So for states relying on a single economy such as oil or gas, "it is not a pretty picture," said Morse. He forecasts much political turmoil, and a struggle to keep market share. That includes Chàvez for sure, but could also jostle Teodoro Obiang Nguema, the allegedly corrupt president of Equatorial Guinea, Turkmenistan President Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov, and Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khameini.

Russia: Michael Levi of the Council on Foreign Relations led the panelists, plus many audience members, in singling out Russia as a key loser since Putin shows no sign so far of genuine economic diversification. "

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....and Fidel is a corrupt stupid loser....who should give up now......;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:21:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #6. To: All (#5)

And the Coup de Grace:

"The green edifice: The movement to slow or stop global warming could be derailed as winning nations focus more on getting rich than cleaning up their carbon footprint, concluded Robin West, chairman of PFC Energy, an energy research firm. The bar was already high for green-tech companies to compete against the economics of fossil-fuel energy; with lower oil and gas prices, the bar rises higher. There is a ray of hope, though: Rather than driving green-tech companies out of business, lower energy prices could create a new consumer choice. "Depending on how you value the environment and [what you think about] global warming," you can choose to run your life on fossil fuels or on cleaner technology, said Chow. Who knows? Policymakers may reverse their current ambivalence, too, and decide that, even though fossil fuels are plentiful, it is better to go clean. "

This is the BIg Oilogarchy trumpeting this Scheiss....

Hoover Dam stops producing in 2017.....

Greenland is past the Tipping Point....going Non Linear.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:23:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   7:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1771. To: All (#1770)

Notice how LF will talk about

Market Manipulation

Climate Change

Peak Oil

When Hell Freezing Over

LMFAO

See Watson River Greenland carrying Humanity into Oblivion by 2020 for details.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   8:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1772. To: All (#1771)

Spain can Not fund short term obligations.....

July 25, 2012 UK ECONOMIC SLUMP: A recession of olympic proportions

Wonder why only 95 000 people watch CNBC?.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   8:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1773. To: All (#1772)

Although the full ONS data aren’t live until 9.30 am BST today, there has as usual been Much-Leaking-in-the-Cabinet. Allegedly the numbers will show a 0.2% negative for GDP in Q2 2012. That follows 0.3% in Q1, and 0.4% in 2011 Q4. Do three Qs of negatives make a QE3? Not as far as the MPC’s vote last week is concerned, but then nobody has the answer to that equation.

09.35 BS update – the decline is a whopping 0.7%!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   8:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1774. To: mcgowanjm (#1771)

Notice how LF will talk about

Market Manipulation

Climate Change

Peak Oil

When Hell Freezing Over

LMFAO

See Watson River Greenland carrying Humanity into Oblivion by 2020 for details.....;}

The climate used to be warmer. Hence trees and vegetation under the ice in Antartica. Hence tools found in mountains in Europe when snow melted. Tools that were centuries old.

Peak oil is propaganda. Fracking has increased the supply supplanting your wishful delusions.

Hell will not freeze over.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-25   8:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1775. To: mcgowanjm (#1772)

So who are you voting for anyway.

Who did you vote for in 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, 1988, 1984?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-25   8:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1776. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#571. To: All (#570)

– When money represents energy the various currencies will sort themselves out (or the reverse will happen as with the euro) and the winner will fall out of circulation (hoarded). The other currencies will simply vanish or will buy goods OTHER THAN fuel. Energy availability will plummet, to meet the small amount of ‘good currency’ in circulation available at any given time for fuel purchase.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 8:15:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #572. To: All (#571)

From the bottom of my heart I would like to thank those kind readers who sent checks to defray the expenses of traveling to West Virginia for the RAMPS action. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. Your sponsorship means so much to me and honestly, it gives me courage to know I have the support of friends, and even two people I have never met. It turns out the campground is next to a huge forested park with a lovely river running through it, so I am really excited to hike through the woods there. If nothing else, this will be an adventure. Posted by Gail at 7:07 AM

RAMPS

RAMPS RAMPS stands for Radical Action for Mountain People's Survival. This organization fights the horrible practice of mountaintop removal to extract coal. If you've never seen pictures or videos of this monstrous travesty, you can't imagine how obscenely destructive it is.

RAMPS is planning a week-long training this summer which will culminate in a physical intervention to halt mining. Even though their name says Mountain People's Survival, actually, it is critical to stop coal for all of us to survive. The direct damage from mining is destroying the forests and causing cancer epidemics locally in Appalachia - while the emissions from coal burning plants are killing trees and making people sick quite literally everywhere. The group is closely aligned with Earth First, anti-fracking, and other environmental groups committed to direct action.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 8:19:38 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   8:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1777. To: A K A Stone (#0)

'Heat Dome' Linked To Greenland's Biggest Melt In 30 Years

And '30 years' is only because that's how far back their Satellite Coverage goes...... ;}

try since the last Ice Age.....

Post Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:05 am by mcgowanjm

And this is from our actual scientists doing the study:

Researchers have not yet determined whether this extensive melt event will affect the overall volume of ice loss this summer and contribute to sea level rise.

the Arctic is ice free this time next year.

See Watson River Greenland Flooding humanity to oblivion....youtube.

Expect this year to be the new normal.

115 in Kansas City. Hoover Dam stops producing 2017.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   9:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1778. To: A K A Stone (#1775)

So who are you voting for anyway.

Who did you vote for in 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, 1988, 1984?

Makes no difference.

But I'll be voting the same as Poor Women, Blacks, Gays, Hispanics.

The Elections have been rigged since 1968.

The Top 400 can't leave anything to chance.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   9:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1779. To: A K A Stone (#1774)

The climate used to be warmer. Hence trees and vegetation under the ice in Antartica. Hence tools found in mountains in Europe when snow melted.

O yeah.

Interglacials the norm.

See Lake E US Russia Germany Austria Sediment cores.

Humans and their Civilizations not so much....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   9:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1780. To: A K A Stone (#1774)

Hence trees and vegetation under the ice in Antartica.

So very true.

Don't know how you think that helps your case.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   9:44:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1781. To: A K A Stone (#1774)

Hence tools found in mountains in Europe when snow melted.

Yes. The frozen man.

There's a reason Civilizations only number 25.

And only since the beginning of the Holocene.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   9:45:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1782. To: A K A Stone (#1774)

Peak oil is propaganda. Fracking has increased the supply supplanting your wishful delusions.

Hell will not freeze over.

"– When money represents energy the various currencies will sort themselves out (or the reverse will happen as with the euro) and the winner will fall out of circulation (hoarded). The other currencies will simply vanish or will buy goods OTHER THAN fuel. Energy availability will plummet, to meet the small amount of ‘good currency’ in circulation available at any given time for fuel purchase.

Think about how much cash is in circulation right now (not e-money) and you get the idea how much fuel will be available. Access to circulating money will be the way fuel is rationed (if not directly by way of fuel cards) the same way access to credit rations fuel now. Needless to say there will be no credit at all."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   9:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1783. To: A K A Stone (#1774)

Fracking has increased the supply supplanting your wishful delusions.

Fracked wells produce 90% of their 'reserve' the first year.

Fracking is a Real Estate flip/bubble.

and Benzene/methane cloud producer.

And at neg EROEI, a non starter which will leave behind destroyed aquifers....;}

Good luck on maintaining Amerika with $3.60 the gal gasoline.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   9:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1784. To: All (#1783)

"This is the straitjacket that central banks and treasuries face and there is almost nothing they can do about it. If they ‘adjust’ (depreciate) their currencies they won’t be able to swap them for fuel. The producers will absolutely dominate: instead of accepting false-promises of ‘growth’ in trade for their valuable resources they will demand resources in return. Having a crude tradeable currency means having one that is as hard to find as a one-armed violin player. "

http://www.economic-undertow.com/

The DXY goes to 90

and/or

the USSA loses it's Empire by Xmas.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   9:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1785. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#574. To: All (#573)

" Son Nghiem of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., was analyzing radar data from the Indian Space Research Organisation's (ISRO) Oceansat-2 satellite last week when he noticed that most of Greenland appeared to have undergone surface melting on July 12. Nghiem said, "This was so extraordinary that at first I questioned the result: was this real or was it due to a data error?"

But then no one else I talked to cared to discuss it, so I just called it 'data error' ND WENT ON WITH MY BUZY WORK....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 9:55:18 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   9:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1786. To: All (#1785)

The problem is that there is almost no attempt at

cross science platforms.

No realization of Positive Feedback Loops.

"The usual response is to insist that the US can trade agricultural goods for fuel. The difficulty with that thesis is that agriculture is itself a petroleum dependency. With insufficient funds agriculture will be less productive, there will be less surpluses to trade. Diminished fuel inputs would constrain output further effecting the fuel trade in a vicious cycle. Soon enough there would be insufficient agricultural goods to trade and less fuel available for agriculture itself."

Like the above.

The MOMENT the USSA can't provide grain, it's Empire implodes.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-25   10:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1787. To: mcgowanjm (#1777)

try since the last Ice Age.....

www.answersingenesis.org/.../fit/flood-caused-ice-age

In order to understand the mysteries of the woolly mammoth, we need to first understand the Ice Age. This is because the woolly mammoth is a denizen of the Ice Age (see appendix 4). I will first delve into a biblical theory for the development of one Ice Age. We will then be prepared to answer the questions surrounding the woolly mammoth.

Scientists have collected mounds of evidence proving that ice once covered most of Canada and parts of the northern and central United States. Evidence is also found in northern Europe, northwest Asia, many of the large mountain ranges of Eurasia, and high mountainous areas of the Southern Hemisphere and tropics. But the truth is, scientists still do not know the cause of the Ice Age as succinctly stated by David Alt1: “Although theories abound, no one really knows what causes ice ages.” Uniformitarianism has not been able to explain the Ice Age, or events related to the Ice Age. Ice sheets are not developing and melting today so we have no way to actually observe how they developed in the past. The woolly mammoths are extinct, so we cannot witness whether they could survive in Siberia. Large lakes are not filling the deserts of the earth. Animal and plant distributions were different during the Ice Age, unlike any pattern observed today. And, we have not observed the kind of mass extinctions that occurred at the end of the Ice Age.

It is doubtful that evolutionists will find a present process that can explain the origin of the Ice Age or the mass extinctions of large mammals. It is very likely the difficulty in knowing the cause of the Ice Age does not lie in the data that has been gathered for over two centuries but in the assumptions. It is my conviction, and that of many others, that the assumption of uniformitarianism needs to be rejected. I believe it is this assumption and the antagonism of mainstream scientists toward catastrophism that has blinded their minds toward a solution of the Ice Age, as well as for the woolly mammoths. Guthrie,2 speaking in regard to the common disharmonious associations and subsequent extinctions associated with the Ice Age, discovered early in his career:

Looking at the extinction problem through the eyes of a young paleontologist in the early 1960s, I encountered my first important lesson — that the present can be used to understand the past only with sensitive discretion. In fact, much of the past may have no modern analogue.

Larry Marshall3 sums up a book on Ice Age extinctions by saying:

Many chapter authors argue that the old axiom — the present is the key to the past — no longer stands. Guthrie (chap. 13) speaks of the standards tied to normalcy of present as being erroneous when looking at the Pleistocene. The present can no longer be regarded as the norm.

They conclude that uniformitarianism cannot be applied to the recent past — the time of the Ice Age and the woolly mammoth. It is this doctrine of uniformitarianism that has retarded understanding of these many mysteries. Catastrophism offers a more logical and less flawed solution to the dual mysteries.

I believe that we need to revisit the rejected biblical world view, one that takes the straightforward account in Genesis 1–11 as early earth history. This account and many other traditions describe a global Flood. The global Flood, believed by most scientists in the 1700s and early 1800s, was really never proved wrong. Scientists in the mid to late 1800s simply decided they wanted to assume uniformitarianism instead. One of the results of a global Flood would be the perturbation of the climate before it reached the equilibrium we observe today (figure 7.1). It is within this transitional climate that the mysteries of the Ice Age and woolly mammoth find a reasonable solution. Figure 7.1

Figure 7.1. Time frame for the Ice Age in relationship to the Flood. (Illustration by Daniel Lewis of AiG.) The first requirement — cooler summers

From the description of the Genesis flood in the Bible, we have been able to glean enough information to form an idea about what the world was like during and immediately after the catastrophe. Genesis chapters 7 and 8 record:

"In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the second month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened. And the rain fell upon the earth for forty days and forty nights. . . . And the waters prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth . . . so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered. . . . And the water prevailed upon the earth one hundred and fifty days. . . . and the water receded steadily from the earth. . . . And in the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, the earth was dry" (NASB).

Scripture indicates that much of the water for the Flood came from the “fountains of the great deep.” The deep or great deep refers to the ocean.4 The bursting open of the fountains of the great deep implies the ocean rose up and covered the land or that oceanic or subterranean sources of water burst forth onto the land.5

Monumental geological and hydrological activity occurred early in the Flood. Gigantic earthquakes could have caused large cracks or rifts in the earth’s crust, explosively releasing subterranean water and triggering volcanic activity. By inference, the mountains before the Flood were fairly low, and even if the mountains were above 10,000 feet (3,000 m) the strong currents of a worldwide Flood would have eroded the mountains that did exist. Since the fountains of the great deep are mentioned before the rains, it is likely that they caused most of the rainfall. Rainfall was the second contributor to the Flood waters. Figure 7.2

Figure 7.2. This graph shows the relative rise in sea level in 150 days followed by a gradual fall in 221 days. The reason the curve is not smooth is because several variables would cause the sea level to oscillate up and down during the general rise and fall. The dashed line represents an alternative interpretation in which the Flood peaks in 40 days.

According to the biblical record, the Flood waters increased and covered the earth by the 150th day, the fastest rise likely occurring in the first 40 days followed by a slow rise or “prevailing” for the next 110 days (figure 7.2). (Some creationists believe that the Flood peaked in 40 days, which is the alternative dashed line in figure 7.2.) The Flood waters then receded from the future continents for the next 221 days when the ocean basins subsided and the mountains rose as recorded in Psalm 104:6–9 (NASB).6

Interbedded within the sedimentary rocks is evidence of incredible volcanic activity that has no parallel today. Vast, unusually thick layers of volcanic flows and ash interlayer sedimentary rocks and fit the worldwide Flood paradigm very well. It appears that at the end of the Flood the world was covered by huge volumes of volcanic ash and gas that had spewed into the atmosphere.7 The abundant ash and gas trapped in the stratosphere would act as an “anti-greenhouse” (see figure 6.1). Instead of warming the earth, it would reflect sunlight back into space and cool it. At the same time, infrared radiation would continue to escape the earth.

Scientists recognize that volcanic dust and gas can substantially cool the earth. Most people in the United States remember the eruption of Mount St. Helens in Washington State in May of 1980. I watched as a dark “dry fog” spread from Oregon into central Montana where I lived. The darkness lasted for two days. Although I saw it as a major event, this eruption was actually small compared to many during the past two hundred years. The largest include Agung on the island of Bali in 1963; Krakatoa, Indonesia, in 1883; Tambora, Indonesia, in 1815; and Laki, Iceland, in 1783. Large modern eruptions usually cool a region or hemisphere a degree or two Fahrenheit (about 1°C). The cooling normally lasts one to three years as the ash and gases slowly fall out of the stratosphere.

Tambora was the largest eruption and is credited with causing the “year without a summer” in 1816. An unprecedented series of cold spells chilled the northeastern United States and adjoining Canadian provinces. Heavy snow fell in June, and frost caused crop failures in July and August. Even Europe felt the chill that summer.

David Keys8 makes a case that a massive volcanic eruption in Indonesia caused the darkness, cooling, crop failures, and social upheaval that was recorded in AD 535.

The extensive volcanism that would result from a worldwide Flood would have a much greater impact on the climate than in historical times. Volcanic ash and gases from the Flood would probably take at least three years to fall out. Three years would be enough time to start an Ice Age. The eruptions would need to continue for many years after the Flood to sustain it.9 Geologists recognize that there was extensive volcanic activity during the Ice Age. Ice Age researcher Charlesworth10 writes:

. . . signs of Pleistocene [Ice Age] vulcanicity and earth-movements are visible in all parts of the world.

In the western United States alone there were more than 68 different ash falls, mostly coinciding with the Ice Age. Some of the volcanic eruptions were very extensive. Figure 7.3

Figure 7.3. Waning volcanism after the Flood.

In the South Pacific, an exceptionally large ash layer from an eruption in New Zealand was discovered. It spread a thick layer of ash over four million square miles (10 million sq. km) and would have darkened the entire earth for several months. This eruption would have caused a tremendous cooling of the continents.

The Ice Age eruptions were much larger than what we have experienced during the past 200 years. So evidence indicates that after the Flood, volcanic eruptions would have been able to replenish the stratospheric dust and gases and sustain the cooling. Since the eruptions were more or less random as the earth gradually settled down after the global Flood, volcanism would show peaks and lulls within a pattern of gradual decline (figure 7.3).

The effect of severe volcanic eruptions has been compared to the aftermath of a nuclear war. Computer models of a nuclear war show dust and soot causing a “nuclear winter.” During a “nuclear winter,” continental summer temperatures can drop below freezing in a matter of days. Toon11 and others speculate with regard to nuclear winter:

Sub-freezing temperatures for six months over the entire globe could possibly lead to extensive snowfield buildup over large areas of the continents. Such snowfields would greatly increase the albedo [reflectivity] of the earth and could sustain themselves indefinitely.

The large eruption in New Zealand is an analogy for the worst nuclear winter models that block out nearly all sunlight all over the world for several months. So, nuclear winter models provide insight into how continental areas can cool enough from atmospheric dust and gases for an ice age to develop.

If volcanic activity is such a good cooling mechanism, why haven’t uniformitarian scientists incorporated it into their Ice Age models? They realize that volcanic ash and gases cool the planet but can’t invoke volcanism because they believe each ice age lasted 100,000 years. There has not been enough volcanism to be significant over such a period of time. Paul Damon12 writes:

. . . volcanic explosions would need to be an order of magnitude [ten times] more numerous than during the past 160 years to result in continental glaciation equivalent to the Wisconsin glacial episode.

The Wisconsin glacial episode is the last glaciation, according to the uniformitarian multiple glaciation system. One researcher, however, has attempted to incorporate volcanism to start an ice age. Bray13 postulates that a short period of enhanced volcanism may initiate the needed summer snow cover. Bray14 states:

I suggest here that such a [snow] survival could have resulted from one or several closely spaced massive volcanic ash eruptions.

Then he relies on a snow cover to take over and continue the summer cooling for an ice age. Unfortunately, there could not be enough volcanism to sustain such an “ice age” for more than a few years without constant eruptions. The snow would quickly melt when the sunshine increased.

The creationist’s time scale is telescoped, putting all these tremendous volcanic eruptions into a relatively short period after the Flood. It is the short time frame that makes the difference. The atmospheric consequences of frequent eruptions would allow an ice age to develop and be sustained. The second requirement — heavy snow

Extensive summer cooling of the land is the first requirement needed for an ice age to develop. High snowfall is the second. Cooling alone cannot generate more precipitation, since cold air holds less moisture, not more. This is the major reason why uniformitarian Ice Age theories fail.

In the Ice Age model after the Flood, the abundant moisture needed for an ice age would be produced by evaporation from a warm ocean at mid and high latitudes. Why would the oceans be warm? First, it is likely the pre-Flood ocean was warmer than now. Secondly, if the water from the “fountains of the great deep” came from within earth’s crust, much hot water would be added to the pre-Flood ocean. The earth’s crust warms about 10°F per 1,000 feet (2°C per 100 m) depth. If the water for the fountains came from 3,000 feet (900 m), it would be quite warm. If it came from 10,000 or more feet (3,000 m), the water would have been hot. Third, intense tectonic activity during the Flood and lava flows would add more heat. Earthquakes and rapid ocean currents during the Flood would mix this warm water with the pre-Flood ocean. As a result, the ocean immediately following the Flood would have been warm from pole to pole and from top to bottom. Because of this, the Arctic and Antarctic Oceans would have had no sea ice and, as strange as it may seem in today’s climate, may have been warm enough for a pleasant swim.

The importance of warm surface water temperatures is that the warmer the water the greater the evaporation (figure 7.4). For example, if all other variables remain constant, water evaporates three times faster at an ocean temperature of 86°F (30°C) than at 50°F (10°C), and seven times faster than at 32°F (0°C). So a universally warm ocean would generate a high amount of evaporation. Figure 7.4

Figure 7.4. Steam fog from a pond caused by colder atmospheric temperatures and warm water.

Would all this heat from a warm ocean keep the high and mid latitudes too warm for the Ice Age? In some areas it would — until the ocean cooled enough by evaporation and contact with colder air. The warm ocean at mid and high latitudes is a key to unraveling the mysteries of the woolly mammoths that will be developed in chapter 14. Although the oceans would be warm, the continents would be cool due to the volcanic ash and dust in the stratosphere. The heat released by the warm ocean and its mixing with the air over the land would result in milder winter temperatures compared to today. The main effect of the volcanic ash and gases would be to cause the land to cool during the summer.

In summary, the Flood and its aftershocks provide the volcanic dust and gases that bring the summer cooling indispensable for the Ice Age. Water from the “"fountains of the great deep"” and mixing during the Flood provides a warm ocean. In the mid and high latitudes the warm ocean would cause copious evaporation and produce massive amounts of snow. The two ingredients required for an Ice Age, cool temperatures and tons of snow, were dramatically fulfilled immediately after the Genesis flood. This unique climate would persist for hundreds of years after the Flood as the intensity of the two mechanisms slowly decreased.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-25   10:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1788. To: mcgowanjm (#1777)

www.amazon.com/Ice-Age-Ca...nesis-Flood/dp/093276620X

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-25   10:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1789. To: mcgowanjm (#1778)

So who are you voting for anyway.

Who did you vote for in 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, 1988, 1984?

Makes no difference.

But I'll be voting the same as Poor Women, Blacks, Gays, Hispanics.

The Elections have been rigged since 1968.

Yes it does. Answer the question. You're not credible unless you answer.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-25   10:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1790. To: mcgowanjm (#1780)

So very true.

Don't know how you think that helps your case.

Did you know trees don't grow when the ground is covered in ice?

What does that mean? Come on use your head. So what does that mean?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-25   10:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1791. To: mcgowanjm (#1783)

It is under 3 bucks in Kentucky and in the South. At least it was a month or so ago.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-25   10:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1792. To: mcgowanjm (#1786)

Hi Jim^;)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-25   11:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1793. To: mcgowanjm (#1786)

We have plenty of fuel to produce our food. To think otherwise is well stupid.

Food trumps fuel. I know this from playing M.U.L.E..

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-25   11:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1794. To: A K A Stone (#1791)

Went back up to $3.30-3.35 a gal in Texas. Was down to $3.03, never made it below in my area.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-25   14:01:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1795. To: redleghunter (#1794)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-25   19:41:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1796. To: A K A Stone (#0)

To save the collective asses of the Top 400-50 000.....that is it.

Everything you're hearing now. Of what's being done.

The previous iteration of crooks (see Sandy Weill, Jack Abromowitz;) are out giving advice on how to fix the scam.

mother of fxuking god....;}

War is being planned, cause after the 1/2 life of this multi year fiasco is over, that's all they got.....;}

http://billhicksisdead.blogspot.com/

That story was bad enough, but now comes word that while the Miami-Dade County commissioners were showering taxpayer money on scumbag billionaire Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria, a dire crisis was building up elsewhere in the county.

From the Miami Herald: Miami-Dade County’s three main water treatment plants and nearly 14,000 miles of pipelines are so outdated it would take more than $1.1 billion just to replace the “most deteriorated, vulnerable sections” of the system, a newly released internal study shows. The county’s main water treatment in Hialeah, and two sewage plants, on Virginia Key and in South Miami-Dade, are 56, 45 and 87 years old, respectively.

It wasn't ever going to end any other way. You knew that. You knew. When Jeffrey Loria and David Samson are involved, it can't end any other way, because they know no different. Loria is the owner of the Marlins, Samson the president, and they're turning the Miami Marlins into a chop shop.

Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante were traded first this week, to the Tigers. Then Hanley Ramirez, who until this year Loria regarded as the franchise, to the Dodgers. Next could be Josh Johnson, their homegrown ace. That would be $32.75 million shed within a week, bringing the Marlins from their $100 million dream back to the bottom quarter of payrolls in baseball.

And Miami is stuck with $2.4 billion in stadium debt service for that.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   8:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1797. To: A K A Stone (#1793)

We have plenty of fuel to produce our food. To think otherwise is well stupid.

I've pretty much got you pegged as

a Texas City citizen. OR Colorado OR FLorida.

You're clueless about agriculture and how it works....

or doesn't.

Example:

IT takes the energy equivalent of 7 nukes to get Iowa fields ready to plant.

O and you don't use diesel.

And you've no idea how much fuel the USSA uses per week.

And the Difference between now and 2007.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   8:28:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1798. To: Fred Mertz (#1792)

Howdy, Fred.....8D

60% chance of rain this PM....

Just a 10 degree cool down would be nice....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   8:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1799. To: A K A Stone (#1791)

It is under 3 bucks in Kentucky and in the South. At least it was a month or so ago.

I'll need to see that.

And I update fuel prices daily.

Catch up.

Ex:

The latest 10 cent rise in fuel the last week is Not holding.

Again, I'll be needing that sub $3 price....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   8:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1800. To: A K A Stone (#1790)

Did you know trees don't grow when the ground is covered in ice?

What does that mean? Come on use your head. So what does that mean?

You think the world was created 6 000 years ago.

And in that time trees were growing in Antarctica.

While Adam and Eve were riding dinosaurs.

That's my take on you and your meaning.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   8:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1801. To: A K A Stone (#1789)

Yes it does. Answer the question. You're not credible unless you answer.

AAAAAaaaaannnnddd.....fcuk you....;}

How many questions of mine have you let slip slide away.

Fcuk.

How many have you answered is the better phrasing.

I answered your question.

Poor Muslim Black Gay Woman.

I vote the same....the VERY same....as her.....every time.....;}

And I have no credibility otherwise....pleeeease..... because I don't come when you calll......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   8:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1802. To: A K A Stone (#1788) (Edited)

the '....nesis-Flood' is the give away.

Genesis-in the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and gave each of them a dinosaur.

Later when Noah had loaded the ark, he noticed that the T Rex and the exotic varieties of sheep/antelope/goats weren't getting along.

Which is how those various species went extinct....8D....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   8:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1803. To: mcgowanjm (#1801)

I answer a lot of your questions.

You are obviously ashamed of your votes. What a wuss.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-26   8:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1804. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And here's a better credibilty question (s) for you, stone:

Why did we invade IRaq?

Why has not one bankster been arrested?

For events leading up to this:

Why was $25 Trillion in debt to the USSA debt serf created and given to those same banksters over a 8:1 at least 'Against' ratio?

And see, stone, I expect you to answer none of the above.

Ipso Facto Ergo Propter.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   9:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1805. To: A K A Stone (#1803)

I answer a lot of your questions.

You are obviously ashamed of your votes. What a wuss.

'a lot' the key there, stone.....;}

And you obviously have no clue as to who I am....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   9:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1806. To: All (#1805)

Now where was I?....o yeah...the Top 400 have lost all credibility and have only violence to offer.

True Fascists all.....;}

"Here's a quote from Ambrose Evans-Pritchard (more on that below as well):

The Troika originally said that Greece' economy would contract by 2.6% in 2010 under the austerity regime, before recovering with growth of 1.1% in 2011, and 2.1% in 2012.

Time for new emergency meetings once more?! Round 826?! In light of the Spiegel quote, Samaras' suggestion this morning that Greece may return to growth by 2014 is the boldest lie of the day, and friend Antonios faces some stiff competition for that prize any day of the week."

theautomaticearth.com/Fin...oject-europe-is-over.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   9:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1807. To: All (#1806)

The decision to go to war with Syria was made by President George W. Bush at a Camp David meeting on September 15, 2001, just after the spectacular attacks in New York and Washington. Simultaneously attacks were planned in Libya to demonstrate the ability to act in two theaters at once. This decision was corroborated by the testimony of General Wesley Clark, former NATO supreme commander, who was opposed to it.

-Thierry Meyssan

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   9:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1808. To: mcgowanjm (#1805)

I have answered your last question until you answser.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-26   9:16:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1809. To: A K A Stone (#1808)

I have answered your last question until you answser.

And THAT will be different how. And o so convenient for you. Like the USSA POTUS matters now....;}

LMFAO....don't answer....AAMOF...don't do anything.

It'll help the planet....;}

"Longtime readers may recall a comment of mine late last year to the effect that ordinary investors would surely find some way to pile into the shale gas bubble before the next year was out. Thanks to an anonymous reader and the August 2012 edition of SmartMoney Magazine, which arrived from said reader in yesterday’s mail, that comment can now be moved over into the "confirmed" category.

Thus it’s as certain as anything can be that at some point in the fairly near future, probably though not certainly within a year or two, the shale gas bubble is going to pop, major names in the industry are going to go the way of Countrywide Mortgage and Washington Mutual, and gas drilling is going to slump until rising gas prices and declining budgets for exploration and drilling come back into a relationship that makes sense. Mind you, it’s equally certain that the closer we get to the bubble’s end, the more extravagant will be the claims made for the permanence and game-changing nature of the so-called “shale gas revolution,” and the more abusive will be the responses of those whose jobs depend on the bubble to any suggestion that a bubble is in fact what’s going on."

8D

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...he-upside-of-default.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   9:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1810. To: mcgowanjm (#1809)

You're not a serious poster. I am considering closing this thread and you. I am interested in people promoting liberty not tyranny.

This is not tyranny's flame.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-26   9:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1811. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete, meguro, war, skip intro, mininggold (#1810)

You're not a serious poster. I am considering closing this thread and you. I am interested in people promoting liberty not tyranny.

...says the little tyrant.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-26   9:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1812. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Sudden Greenland ice sheet melt baffles scientists (+video)

So they can go on over to that corner....yeah, that one over there :twisted: ....

where the Totally discredited economists are standing.....LMFAO

I myself have been calling for an Ice Free Arctic by 2013....since 2007.

Tick fucking tock.... :twisted: :roll: :shock: :? 8-)

At what fcuking time will the numbers be revised to the

Climate has Passed it's Tipping Point.

The Greenland Melt adds to the accelerating trend which shows Zero signs of reversing.

The Anthropocene until the 'Book of Eli scenario or Ice Age.....by 2030 at the latest.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   10:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1813. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete, meguro, war, skip intro, mininggold, Fred Mertz, All (#1811)

This is not tyranny's flame.

A K A Stone posted on 2012-07-26 9:32:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #1811. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete, meguro, war, skip intro, mininggold (#1810)

You're not a serious poster. I am considering closing this thread and you. I am interested in people promoting liberty not tyranny.

...says the little tyrant.

Fred Mertz posted on 2012-07-26 9:50:56 ET

#1810. To: mcgowanjm (#1809)

You're not a serious poster. I am considering closing this thread and you. I am interested in people promoting liberty not tyranny.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...You left out Fred, you schmuck....8D

So My 'Padded Cell' not working out for you, eh, A K?

I'll just go back to Status Quo Ante, which then leaves you with your

Goldi Option.....which of course you can exercise at any time....

Just like Goldi did.....

speaking of whom....how's her LP site doin' these days?

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...8D

Go ahead, Stone....shoot......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   10:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1814. To: All (#1813) (Edited)

I am interested in people promoting liberty not tyranny.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....intake of breath......BUWAHAHAHAHA...8D

So how many poor....black.....gay.....muslim.....women.....

you got here now, stone?

Liberty does not include them but Tyranny does?

Then I'm guilty on all counts....

But I don't think 'tyranny' means what you think it means, Stone.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   10:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1815. To: mcgowanjm (#1813)

speaking of whom....how's her LP site doin' these days?

That site sucks the big one. Ask yukko and crew.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-26   10:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1816. To: A K A Stone (#0)

A problem for you, stone, is that I've been using you as a marker for the Top 400.

You and them think pretty much the same things....;}

And you both think, when you give it any thought,

that the Bottom 99% are being weak.

Instead of the reality....which is that we've been charitable.

Always a step back....after your violence....then holding again.

"What's Greek for "bite me"?

And who's going to force them out of the eurozone to begin with? There are no rules or regulations anywhere regarding the procedure for leaving. You can't leave, and you can't be forced out. If the IMF and/or the rest of the troika wants to stop payments, Greece will probably default on its debt, but it will still be in the eurozone. Sort of whether it likes it or not. Interesting matter for international and constitutional lawyers, for sure, but they don't tend to work very fast (for good reasons).

The bailouts and austerity schemes don't work (that is: not for the people; bankers are elated). The Greeks get miserable without having anything to show for it, the Germans and Dutch pay and pay and pay and never see anything improve. End of exercise. Once everyone sees the blinding light, that is. So please let it sink in: we're in the process of passing a watershed moment, slowed down as we are by the mental sloths among us.

From your latest threat, it seems your Masters are ready for war now.....

Very distasteful that....but this IS Planet Hell....after all....;}

The USSA/UK/Israel have 12 hours after they attack....I'd wish you luck.... but I'm looking for different results......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   10:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1817. To: Fred Mertz (#1815)

And thank you, Fred.

Sincerely,

Jim

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   10:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1818. To: All (#1817)

the August 2012 issue of SmartMoney is "The Return of Fossil Fuels," and that it rehashes the latest clichés about vast new gas and oil reserves without raising any of the the inconvenient questions that a competent practitioner of the lost art of journalism, should one be wakened from enchanted sleep by the touch of a 1940s radio microphone, would ask as a matter of course. The article trumpets the fact that America is importing less oil than last year,

for example, without mentioning that this is because Americans are using less oil—unemployed people who’ve exhausted their 99 weeks of benefits don’t take many Sunday drives—and it babbles about natural gas for two largely fact-free pages without mentioning that claims about vast supplies far into the future

rely on assumptions about the production decline rate from fracked shale gas wells that make professionals in the gas drilling industry snort beer out their noses. "

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   10:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1819. To: mcgowanjm (#1818)

So why are you embarrassed of your voting pattern?

My son ate Fish from the Gulf and didn't die. He said it tasted real good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-26   11:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1820. To: mcgowanjm (#1816)

A problem for you, stone, is that ...

A problem for you is that you add zero value to a site.

Endless, mindless babbling.

.
Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Say hi to your mom for me.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-07-26   11:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1821. To: A K A Stone (#1819)

So why are you embarrassed of your voting pattern?

My son ate Fish from the Gulf and didn't die. He said it tasted real good.

I'm not embarrassed about anything.

What's your problem, A K?

What part of Poor, Muslim, Black, Gay, Woman, are you not getting?

And yes, so the fish isn't glyphosate. or anti freeze....you got me there...man, your logic is impeccable....;}

And just where in the Gulf did that fish come from?

Of course your boy has no idea.

Hey, why not go down and buy a marina at Venice, LA.

They're selling 'em cheap.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   12:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1822. To: Biff Tannen, A K A Stone, All (#1820)

A problem for you is that you add zero value to a site.

Endless, mindless babbling.

So why are you reading it?

;}

"The people of Europe, like their American peers, still live under the illusion that they can exert their political influence in the ballot box. They will all find out that this influence can be fought for, gained and exerted in one place only: the street. And that is where we will find the people."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-26   12:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1823. To: A K A Stone (#1795)

LOL! The local drive through was packed all day on Wednesday.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-26   15:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1824. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Message from Assad to Erdogan:

"You want the Ottoman Empire Redux?"

'HEre it is, you motherfcuker!'

Assad Grants Autonomy to Kurdish Region, Prompting Threats From Turkey The PKK will find safe-haven in northern Syria now, which could prompt an attack from Turkey, a NATO member

by John Glaser, July 26, 2012

http://news.antiwar.com/2012/07/...ting-threats-from-turkey/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-27   7:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1825. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And just for scheiss and giggles.....

What's a CBS reporter doing reporting from 'Syria' in a burka like outfit?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-27   7:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1826. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Hezbollah, Hamas, Syrian Army, Iraq Insurgents, Iran, Taliban.

After everything being thrown at them, they're still there....;}.

From the Mediteranean Sea to the Himalaya's....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-27   11:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1827. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NG24Ak02.html

[quote] German intelligence: al-Qaeda all over Syria By John Rosenthal German intelligence estimates that "around 90" terror attacks that "can be attributed to organizations that are close to al-Qaeda or jihadist groups" were carried out in Syria between the end of December and the beginning of July, as reported by the German daily Die Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ). This was revealed [/quote]

Look forward to seeing this in the USSA MSM never..... :twisted: :roll: :shock: :? 8-)

And if you don't realize that the AQ is CIAMOSSAD by now......you never will..... :twisted:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-27   11:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1828. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Picasso Moon wrote:Assad "grants" autonomy to the Kurds, eh? What a pompous statement in its essence. All of a sudden, after decades of repression, the regime turns to "benign despotism," one would have us believe. Fuck Assad, and fuck the Empire too, and fuck this binary manicheanistic world view.

Do you think the timing of the Emancipation Proclamation was an accident?

Global Research, February 7, 2012

“In order to facilitate the action of liberative (sic) forces, ...a special effort should be made to eliminate certain key individuals. ...[to] be accomplished early in the course of the uprising and intervention, ...

Once a political decision has been reached to proceed with internal disturbances in Syria, CIA is prepared, and SIS (MI6) will attempt to mount minor sabotage and coup de main (sic) incidents within Syria, working through contacts with individuals. ...Incidents should not be concentrated in Damascus …

Further : a “necessary degree of fear .. frontier incidents and (staged) border clashes”, would “provide a pretext for intervention... the CIA and SIS [MI6 should use … capabilitites in both psychological and action fields to augment tension.” (Joint US-UK leaked Intelligence Document, London and Washington, 1957)

“'The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history." (George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair, 1903-1950.)

globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29126

Let's see.....Feb 7, 2012....feb 2, 2012....02022012....how much numerology can you stand..... :twisted:

"Operation New Tomorrow" February 2, 2012 Syria image - TEOD ... www.moddb.com/.../operati...uary-2-2012-syri...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jan 20, 2012 – Preview: "Operation New Tomorrow" Starting the Syrian intervention on February 2, 2012. After the nuclear attack perpetrated in the city of ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-27   20:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1829. To: All (#1828)

For anyone in two minds about what is really going on in Syria, and whether President Assad, hailed a decade ago as “A Modern Day Attaturk”, has become the latest megalomaniacal despot, to whose people a US-led posse of nations, must deliver “freedom”, with weapons of mass, home, people, nation and livelihood destruction, here is a salutary tale from modern history.

Have the more recent sabre rattlings against Syria* been based on US-UK government papers, only discovered in 2003 - and since air brushed (or erroneously omitted) from even BBC timelines, on that country?(i)

In late 2003, the year of the Iraq invasion, Matthew Jones, a Reader in International History, at London’s Royal Holloway College, discovered “frighteningly frank” documents:1957 plans between then UK Prime Minister, Harold Macmillan, and then President, Dwight Eisenhower, endorsing: “a CIA-MI6 plan to stage fake border incidents as an excuse for an invasion (of Syria) by Syria’s pro-western neighbours.” (ii)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-27   20:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1830. To: A K A Stone (#0)

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=ZS&cot=005602&p=d1

Greater emphasis on interpreting the historical record in terms of cycles, whether or not they can be quantified in market terms, makes greater sense of the rise and fall of imperial structures as well as the smaller scale cycles within cycles that these examples represent. Ponzi dynamics are the underlying commonality at all degrees of trend for a fractal system based on swings of positive feedback in both directions:

From the Top of the Great Pyramid (2008)

At the largest scale, empires are also grounded in pyramid dynamics, which is why they too have a limited lifespan. They grow by assuming control, either politically or economically, of new territories, positioning themselves to cream off surpluses from an ever-expanding geographical area in a form of involuntary buy-in ...

http://theautomaticearth.com/Fin...ayal-of-public-trust.html

Note the Great Grain Price Rise of the 2012 Worse than Dust Bowl Summer:

Corn is $1.25 over March highs.

Wheat is $2.00 over May.

Soy is $1.85

Oats are less than $0.40...... :twisted: :? 8-)

And THIS on top of what was supposed to be HYPERinflation.

When the grain markets break, and they will, the Investorati will get hurt bad.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-28   8:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1831. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Power. What LF claims to address.

Religion. What LF does instead....;}

"We have seen loans made to people, companies and governments that could not possibly repay them, because the sellers were able to collect their fees upfront, while selling the huge risk on to investors through securitization. Due diligence was virtually non-existent for many years, while systemic risk grew unchecked. In the USA, the mortgage securitization process broke the chain of title for property, and the banking system attempted to cover this up through fraudulent reconstruction of paperwork after the fact. Naked shorting has been used to create artificial selling pressure.

The benchmark LIBOR rate has been fiddled since its inception, creating enormous private profits at public expense. As crisis has developed as a result of these, and many other, abuses, the response has been austerity for the masses while the insiders, who should have know better, have been able to walk away from the consequences of their recklessness. The public sector is being asset-stripped as the great collateral grab gets underway.

The formal 'control' mechanisms have done nothing of substance to reign in the development of a global Ponzi structure, in fact they have more often acted to facilitate it. "

theautomaticearth.com/Fin...ayal-of-public-trust.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-28   9:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1832. To: All (#1831)

Same as ^....;}

"This is how all bubbles come to an end.

By way of analogy, not only has the Titanic already hit the iceberg, but most of the regulatory response constitutes rearranging the deckchairs. Most of society is still obliviously listening to the band, while the few are busy locking the third class passengers below decks. There are not enough lifeboats ....."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-28   9:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1833. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Dear Facebook user:

Hey it’s Mark. It seems like just yesterday that Facebook had its historic I.P.O. and, thanks to you, my net worth soared to a staggering $20 billion. What an awesome day that was for both of us. Today was a different kind of day. Facebook shares are plunging because the geniuses on Wall Street expect us to, and I quote, “make money.” That’s why your Facebook friend Mark needs your help.

Facebook only makes money if people click on its ads. Do you know what Facebook ads are? They’re those things on your Facebook page that you have never clicked on even once. But at Facebook we’re looking to change that. After doing extensive market research, we learned that there is one time when people actually do click on Facebook ads: when they’re drunk. This is the same business model that iTunes is based on. I’m sure a few of you have had the experience of using Facebook late at night, only to wake up and find that you’ve gotten seven auto-insurance quotes or enrolled as a criminal-justice major at the University of Phoenix.

8D

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport

Mr. Romney’s day got off to a bad start when he told a reporter for the Sunday Times, “I don’t mind that the British keep calling me a banker, but why do they pronounce it with a ‘W’?”

Read more www.newyorker.com/online/...owitzreport#ixzz21vbf0cxJ

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-28   10:36:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1834. To: mcgowanjm (#1833)

Mr. Romney’s day got off to a bad start when he told a reporter for the Sunday Times, “I don’t mind that the British keep calling me a banker, but why do they pronounce it with a ‘W’?”

Ha ha!!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-28   10:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1835. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Plight of the Israelis:

Romney's the best they can do.....;}

Syrian FM accuses the Israelis of being the Mastermind behind the Salafi Wahhabi Al Qaeda Jihadi.

But we all know that can't be true because Israel is a Colony of the USSA....right?.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-29   8:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1836. To: Fred Mertz (#1834)

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-29   8:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1837. To: Fred Mertz (#1834)

[quote]the UK is in the longest double-dip recession since quarterly records began in 1955.....The big picture is that when a recession has gone on this long, we are in a depression”....the UK economy was suffering “the deepest recession and weakest recovery for 100 years”.....the worst economic performance since the 19th century, with only a weak follow-through in prospect afterwards, the news is bleaker still”......... .[/quote]

1955...the year the Brit empire officially ended.

'depression'.....First time I've seen word used.

deepest recession and weakest recovery for 100 years....

and that would be....

1912.....includes WWI.

And the Panic of 1907 was not over.

the worst economic performance since the 19th century....

And 1873 was the Worst Depression ever....which lasted right up to the USS Maine.....

So to ReCap:

the founding of the Jekyll's Island FedRes, USSA and Rockefeller's Big Oil, the 100 years of the Greatest wealth Producvtion/transfer in World History along with 2 WW's and the Truman Doctrine which we still live under.....

and now the All too predictable Peak Oil and it's concomitant Climate Change...has brought us here:

[quote]July 27, 2012 Still At Odds

Today's data did little to change the fact that ordinary Americans' views of current economic conditions remain at the odds with what Washington and Wall Street keep telling us.[/quote]

[img]panzner.typepad.com/.a/6a...017743b0ee71970d-pi[/img]

And Here:

[img]panzner.typepad.com/.a/6a...017743a652f2970d-pi[/img]

Nothing correlates better to the financials better than garbage....

And why not....if you're growing you increase your Waste Stream.... ask yeast for details....:twisted: :? 8-)

[b]11 000 on the Dow....1100 on S&P...$1200 gold.....$16 Silver....$65 oil.....by September.[/b]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-29   8:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1838. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#5. To: mcgowanjm (#4)

Why does the USSA subsidize Israeli Single Payer Health Care?

I've asked that question too.

Now I wonder the real reason NBC, in this age of the internet, insisted on a delayed broadcast. Why not repeat it in the evening if they must?

I wonder if Big Insurance paid to insure this celebration of a nation with health care for all, was never seen by Americans who have no clue what they are missing.

“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist.” Dom Hélder Pessoa Câmara, Archbishop of Olinda and Recife, also known as the ‘Bishop of Corum’ He wrote "Spiral of Violence"

Robin posted on 2012-07-29 9:05:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #6. To: Robin (#5) (Edited)

yep. Wonder no more.

This Is the USSA....;}

As CNN spent over 5 min Top of the Hour (I stopped tracking after that;) on Romney and the Plight of Israel.

theviewfrombrittany.blogs...nd-of-european-dream.html

The end of the European dream

by Damien Perrotin

This guy gets it.....

"That means that the European debts are essentially unpayable. Without real growth they are bound to become even more so with every passing year, concentrating resources ever more in the hands of an ever smaller number of people. And of course, this will even worsen when oil production ceases to stagnate and begins to decline.

At some point somebody will have to emulate Valdemar IV (king of Denmark (.....Those familiar with the history of Denmark will remember, for instance, that Christopher II of Denmark pawned nearly his entire kingdom to German magnates between 1320 and 1332. Yet Denmark still exists and is still a kingdom. You see, states have an enormous advantage over corporations : they generally command the loyalty of their subjects and can therefore tax and draft them. That is what Christopher’s successor, Valdemar IV, did.")........ , default on his debt or leave the Euro to inflate his way out of it. Bankers and traders won’t be amused but will quickly learn that money doesn’t command loyalty. Those who won’t be able to run will then have an interesting discussion with a court... or a lynch mob.

The problem is that the European administration cannot take this decision. It is not a political body, it cannot change its policies, and those are liberal in nature. The first rule of a free market is that debts must be paid, no mater the costs and the consequences, and it is a rule it cannot break.

Nations states will have to do it, therefore, either together in some grand conference, or more probably alone, after the crisis has put some radical into power. When this will happen, the European Union will simply vanish as the USSR did after the August Coup and the Belavezha Accords. Those who still nurture the dream of a political Europe, whether it be the Europe of Regions of my own political family or the Europe as civilization of the volkish far right will have to accept, as I did, that Europe has become an hollow shell and that time has run out. It is around nation states, not necessarily the ones we know by the way, that Europe will have to face the long descent, until they too dissolve."

By September.....;}

exiledonline.com/mister-m...c-struggle-with-language/

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-29 9:15:47 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-29   9:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1839. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"On an historical basis, those who cling to the exhausted verities of this fading epoch will be viewed in a comparable light to those obtuse denizens of the 16th Century who refused to let go (and ruthlessly strove to make miserable — or worse — those who challenged prevailing cultural illusions) of the fallacy of the ‪Geocentric model of the universe. Like their Flat-Earther forbearers, our present day virtuosos of denial (e.g., climate change skeptics and capitalist rah-rahs) their names and their demented dogmas will, in years to come, become axiomatic of hubris, denial, and catastrophic conceit. ‬

When an individual clings to pride-petrified notions about himself, he is being held in the thrall of the viewpoint of a person who no longer exists; in the same way, when one parrots nationalistic platitudes, one dwells on a mental basis in a country that does not exist, and, in fact, never did."

" Now, it appears that the West's Arab "foreign legion," Al Qaeda, is about to suffer an unprecedented defeat - not at the hands of Western anti-terrorism forces, but at the hands of Syrian troops in the city of Aleppo. In a desperate effort to prevent this, the West is employing a series of desperate strategies ranging from portraying the trapped foreign-fighters committing atrocities inside Aleppo as "pending a certain massacre," to using the very presence of these foreign-fighters as evidence "Al Qaeada" is operating in Syria and must be "stopped" by Western intervention.

It is essential to understand that, as empires have always done, the monolithic corporate-financier interests of the West seek regional hegemony as a step toward global domination, and will say and do anything in order to achieve it. As resistance increases, the West's lies become more difficult to sell, the consistency of their propaganda overtly crumbling. The West, in nearly a single breath, has now claimed FSA fighters are both "Al Qaeda" that need to be eliminated, while also impeding a "massacre" by Syrian forces if something isn't done to save them. "

landdestroyer.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-29   13:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1840. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#1. To: Robin (#0)

Don't wear burkas (attn Scott Pelley and CBS;),

call the authorities when you see these burkas, men out of uniform with AK 47's and you'll be fine.

Syria : Aleppo encircled by Al-Assad Army. Seif El Dawla - Adhamiya bandits strongholds cleared of Obama backed Terrorists. Hundreds of Rats killed and captured!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAd2VtgRoeU

There's a reason Israel fears Syria....;}

"Looks like the Syrian army by Numberone on 29.07.2012 [21:52 ]

is finally hitting its stride. Won't be long now until the entire country is cleansed. The gloom in Washington, London, Tel Aviv and Riyadh must be palpable.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-30 9:16:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: All (#1)

The Turks need to be reminded of

Int'l Reciprocity.

Allow 'this', then 'this' becomes acceptable for the opposition as well....;}

"We had the Reuters news agency 24 to 36 hours ago publishing the report that you referred to about the Adana base supported actively by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and of course on Turkish territory.

This base was actually made to order during a visit by Saudi Prince Abdulaziz, the Deputy Foreign Minister who demanded that the Turks open up such a base. The trick with that base is Adana is right next to the Incirlik NATO air force base. It is Incirlik AFB and the account in Reuters is not certain whether the Adana logistical base for the death squads in Syria is actually on the NATO base. So at that point it is getting very hard to deny anything. "

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-30 9:21:40 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-30   9:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1841. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Welcome to the Kurdish Spring ~ link ~ This could prove to be a massive 'wild card' event, on a par with the Kaiser sending Lenin to Russia in a sealed train. It ended up bringing not only the Emperor of Russia down but the Kaiser and many others as well. Stirling

Turkish foreign policy, codified by Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, used to be known in shorthand as "zero problems with our neighbors". When Turkey started calling for regime change in Syria, it turned into "a major problem with one of our neighbors" (even tough Davutoglu himself admitted on the record the policy change failed).

Now, in yet another twist, it's becoming "all sorts of problems with two of our neighbors". Enter - inevitably - Ankara's ultimate taboo; the Kurdish question.

News Embargo....waiting for the USSA to uncensor....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-30   9:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1842. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Post Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:26 am by mcgowanjm

".... money will be found to "rescue" Spain and Italy, even if it comes from the Fed,..... and September will come and go just like all the other crunch times which were trumpeted up to this point."

Nope. The only thing holding the USSA's colonies is certain payment.

As in:

$4 Geo Washingtons will get you a gal of petrol anywhere in the world.

Once this no longer holds, neither will the Empire's colonies.

As I keep asking myself what Turkey gets for destabilizing Syria and going against Russia/China.

Though not yet announced by the Saudi authorities, the death of Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has been confirmed to Voltaire Network unofficially.

Prince Bandar had just been appointed head of Saudi intelligence on July 22: a promotion which was interpreted as a reward for having organized the attack in Damascus on July 18. The Saudi services, with logistical support from the CIA, had managed to blow up the headquarters of the Syrian National Security during a Crisis Cell meeting: Generals Assef Chaoukat, Daoud Rajha and Hassan Tourkmani were killed instantly. Generals Amin Charabeh and Hicham Ikhtiar died soon after from their wounds. This operation, called "Damascus Volcano" was the signal for the attack on the capital by a swarm of mercenaries, mainly coming from Jordan.

Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud was hand in glove with the bush family.

IF the above is true, Turki al Faisal is all the USSA has left. Worse for the Saudi's than the drone attack on Syria's Defense Minister.

''Turkish foreign policy, codified by Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, used to be known in shorthand as "zero problems with our neighbors". When Turkey started calling for regime change in Syria, it turned into "a major problem with one of our neighbors" (even tough Davutoglu himself admitted on the record the policy change failed).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-30   10:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1843. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Truth replaced by Silence is evil....;}

A lot of Silence this AM....;}

" >My comment would be that if AND I MEAN IF there was a valid deal offered to Iran by the US, it would be to have Syria removed, then it would follow the same path and destroy Iran.

You still don't understand why they want a regime change in Iran. They want to remove the ideology, eventually break the country into two parts: Balunchistan and Iran proper, and parts of in near the Caspian sea to go to form a new country for the Azeri population.

Now there's no need to say IF, the deal was at P5+1:

- Syria renounces resistance to israel - Syrian army is reduced in size to half then a quarter of its size, mainly used to police the country - Public betrayal of Hezbollah required to prove the deal is sealed

Syria REFUSED, furthermore, many were betting that Russia would give up at that point, but were wrong. The failure to kill Assad and the failure to take Damascus and Aleppo will be their undoing, they're going to make a big mistake soon and involve Turkey overtly.

The leaders don't want to engulf the world in a nuclear war for nothing, they're careful and have a long term plan.

3 Chinese vessels entered the Mediterranean, joining 8 Russian vessels off the coast of Syria. Can you finally put the pieces together and see your "5 Kings" split in the middle between the FUKUS axis and China/Russia?

China cannot lose Iran, it's not possible for them to survive long-term without this secure point of oil and leverage over the gulf. Do you not agree with this? Of course because of your 5 kings bullshit, you think China will just lower its head to be sliced clean off by America.

Do you understand what double vetoes, 3 times in a row, means? Do you understand what would happen to Russia's reputation if they allow a violation of their veto? Do you understand what is at stake here?

They've been trying to take down Syria in the most ferocious way, they've killed thousands of soldiers, wounded countless more, they've destroyed hundreds of armored vehicles, they've killed scientists, sanctioned literally EVERYTHING (I cannot even get a flight back home without going through Lebanon), destroyed infrastructure everywhere they've laid their hand on. They're calling this the dirtiest war in written history.

The country is still here and it's still fighting.

Russia, China, Iran, Syria and the resistance. If any one of them falls, all of them fall. There was great pressure on Iran to first accept the deal by America and betray Russia (who would then be engulfed by Islamists via destroyed Syria, Turkey). Then there was great pressure on Syria to make a deal, we all assumed that Russia would not veto the third time and would have to fight alone. Mistaken, even moving the "missile shield" out of Turkey wasn't a good enough deal for them. They knew that taking down Syria was multipurpose.

YOUR BIGGEST MISTAKE is assuming they just want to tie things up with Iran and then that's it. WRONG, their target is Russia (biggest landmass, most of the world's untapped resources) and China (industrial power house, huge untapped resources). They want to swallow the world.

Syria is the knot holding the rope together for the opposition to the US, if it's undone, it's over, there's no point resisting them anymore. I hope people understand the gravity of the situation."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-31   7:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1844. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Photo: The face of Libya's "revolution" was literally Al Qaeda. Abdul Hakim Belhaj, commander of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) listed by the US State Department as a "Foreign Terrorists Organization," was armed and backed by NATO (including the US) in his efforts to topple the government of Libya. Belhaj more recently pledged (NATO) weapons, cash, and Libyan militants to the "Free Syrian Army."

SO:

To ReCap:

Al Qaeda did 9/11....bush43 will hunt them down and take away USSAn citizen's rights. Al Qaeda NOT in Iraq until the USSAns invade. Al Qaeda is the Enemy in the Afghans. The USSAns invaded the Afghans because the Taliban would NOT hand over Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda became our Aliies in the Arab Spring/Libya. Al Qaeda is our Ally in Syria. Al Qaeda did 9/11.

Any questions.... :?: :lol: :evil: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-31   9:04:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1845. To: All (#1844)

"Turkey hosts invading Saudi and Qatari mercenary army."

This confirms earlier reports featured in the New York Times and the Washington Post, that not only are the Gulf States of Saudi Arabia and Qatar funding and arming militants via Turkey, but that the US is coordinating the logistical aspects of the operation as well. "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-31   9:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1846. To: All (#1845)

Saudis and Qataris Attempt "Arab League-UN" Rescue of Faltering Mercenaries

Perhaps as a sign the Gulf States of Saudi Arabia and Qatar are stretched to the limits of their ability to covertly undermine Syria, they have announced plans to seek "UN General Assembly action" for a "political transition and establishment of a democratic government in Syria." For the despotic, unelected, grandiose nepotism of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to call for a "democratic government in Syria" is truly a move made as much out of desperation as it is one of farcical hypocrisy.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-31   9:25:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1847. To: A K A Stone (#0)

“Any attack on Syrian territory will meet with a harsh response, and the Iranian-Syrian mutual defence agreement will be activated,” the statement reportedly said. Turkey’s president and foreign minister have both issued statements recently suggesting an attack could be forthcoming.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-31   11:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1848. To: All (#1847)

This is suicide for Turkey.

What did the USSA promise.

Full Heroin distribution rights in NYC?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-07-31   11:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1849. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Correction:

Soy is now $1.35 over May highs.

And I've never seen Soy break by a $ in after market session..... :twisted: :? 8-)

[img]finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=ZS&cot=005602&p=m5[/img]

And Platinum needs to hurry back over $1400.

[img]finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=PL&cot=076651&p=w1[/img]

Cause it's at Aug 2009 levels here. Three years of Rampant unregulated Capitalism.... thievery to you and me and the Bottom 99%....

and ....what hyperinflation were you talking about :?: ...... :twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-01   8:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1850. To: All (#1849)

How you can tell the USSA's losing in Syria:

LF's not talking about it....;}

PressTV - Syrian rebels accidentally blow themselves up in Aleppo www.presstv.ir/detail/.../syria-rebels-bombs-go-off-in-their-faces/

14 hours ago – Members of a foreign-backed armed gang in Syria (file photo) Foreign-backed ... Tens of armed men have been killed or injured in blasts that occurred when explosive charges they were planting in the northern Syrian city of Aleppo ... The incident occurred on Tuesday when the rebels were planting the ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-01   9:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1851. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Knight Capital Group, Inc. (KCG) -NYSE

8.98 Down 1.35(13.07%) 11:20AM EDT - Nasdaq Real Time Price

148 stocks down then up 10%.

Except for the 'clearinghouse' KCG.

The Market's experiencing a little Cardiac Arrest.

Nothing to worry about.

Now:

Knight Capital Group, Inc. (KCG) -NYSE

8.38 Down 1.95(18.88%) 11:54AM EDT - Nasdaq Real Time Pric

Bloomberg:

It’s “yet another example of how the market structure plumbing is responsible for massive price distortions,” Joseph Saluzzi, co-head of equity trading at Themis Trading LLC in Chatham, New Jersey, said in an e-mail. “August 1st will be another day that will destroy investor confidence just like the May 6th flash crash.”

Eric Ryan, spokesmen at NYSE, said in an e-mail “I’m not aware of anything.” Robert Madden, a spokesman for Nasdaq OMX, did not respond to a phone call and e-mail requesting comment."

Anything else you Bottom Feeders need to know?

LMFAO.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-01   11:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1852. To: A K A Stone (#0)

" On August 1, Panetta meets with Netanyahu and other Israeli officials. Imperial warlords will discuss their next moves. War tops their agenda. Both countries prioritize it. Together they threaten humanity."

NBC: Obama signs secret 'finding' authorizing 'mostly clandestine forces'.

Translation:

We're in another war....this one should culminate in another Cuban Missile Crisis.

Hope the Russian Commander again disobeys the Kremlin....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-01   19:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1853. To: A K A Stone (#0)

E-mail Print PDF Thursday, 14 Ramadan 1433 Thursday, 02 August 2012 10:35

The intelligence organ of Kabul regime claimed that they have thwarted a Mujahideen assault in Kabul today and in the process have killed several assailants. We reject such reports and state that such a subject has no bases. Rather, we believe this is yet another maneuver of the intelligence apparatus which is trying to

portray itself as active, aware and vigilant. Since the intelligence agency is under question from the parliament and other departments in Kabul hence its wants to have something to draw upon in the hearings.

The Islamic Emirate had no plans for an operation in Kabul today and neither are those people which they reportedly eliminated Mujahideen. We believe this whole process was staged to keep the media busy for today. This whole charade is an enemy propaganda ploy which we strongly reject and deem it as nothing more than a stunt and allegory. We must state that if we ever wanted to carry out an operation, it would be done with the help of Allah and with all precautionary measures and will be executed successfully in its allocated time, Allah willing, without it being detected or foiled by the enemy.

Zabihullah Mujahid

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   8:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1854. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#610. To: All (#0)

Where you stand:

You Got Nothing.

;}

Watch THIS get Zero Coverage today.

The Truth Replaced by Silence is Evil.

finance.yahoo.com/news/fi...alance-040222013.html?l=1

Fidelity Investments, the nation's largest 401(k) administrator, said on Thursday that the average balance among its nearly 12 million accountholders was $72,800 at the end of June. That's 2.4 percent less than at the end of March, and largely unchanged from last year's second-quarter average. It didn't help that the Standard & Poor's 500 stock index fell 2.8 percent during this year's second quarter. Investors worried about the European debt crisis and slow economic growth at home. "

"That's consistent with the trend since the financial crisis. Balances have grown a cumulative 58 percent since early 2009, when the stock market meltdown reduced the average balance to $46,200.

Yet workers who have stayed in the market long term have found it difficult to rely solely on investment gains to build up 401(k) savings. Stocks remain about 12 percent below their historic peak in October 2007. "

YA THINK!?

The Top 1%: QUE SE JODAN !!!!!.....8D

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-02 8:06:58 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   8:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1855. To: A K A Stone (#0)

A senior commander in Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, General Hamid Reza Moqadam Far, was quoted in another newspaper, Kayhan, saying that Syrian civilians were now fighting rebels alongside the regime's troops.

He added that, if the rebellion was routed, it would "deliver an enormous blow to Saudi Arabia and Western countries," which Tehran sees as directly helping the insurgents.

And speaking of Saudi's....

Syria eliminates Bandar bin Sultan in retaliation for Damascus bombing....

Still looking for Bandar to show up..... :twisted: :? 8-)

Post Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:23 am by mcgowanjm Re: Iran Discussion

Post Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:23 am by mcgowanjm

The bottom line; no one knows, because no one is talking.

What is certain is that Bandar as head of Saudi intelligence was part of King Abdullah's hardcore response to the Arab Spring.

In Syria, the House of Saud strategy boils down to regime change - and a fragile, fragmented, Sunni government in Damascus not aligned with Tehran.

Internally, the strategy is to viciously smash any peaceful Shi'ite-majority protest in the eastern provinces. Essentially, there's no Arab Spring in Saudi Arabia because the House of Saud either bribes or intimidates its subjects.

The overall strategy of choice is "blame it on Iran"; as this logic goes, Saudi Shi'ites are Iranian puppets as much as Bahraini Shi'ites. The Obama administration blindly subscribes to this fallacy - totally missing the point; the House of Saud hates any semblance of Western parliamentary democracy as much as it hates Shi'ites - Iranian and otherwise.

So what happened in Riyadh? A graphic Tehran message to the House of Saud? A rogue suicide bomber? An internal Saudi war? The House of Saud is not talking. And Bandar is not moving.

Pepe Escobar

When Pepe Escobar has questions, people around the world take note.

Every day from now on that bandar does not show, is weakness for the Saudi Regime amd strength for syria/IRan.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   8:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1856. To: mcgowanjm (#1855)

I hope the fight lasts a very long time. Down to the last man.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-02   9:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1857. To: A K A Stone, mcgowanjm (#1856)

Mr. Stone, is this your forum or does it belong to this mcgowan person? I occasionally click on a link to Liberty's Flame then Latest Comments and I see a huge list of posts by mcgowanjm to you and vice versa.

I have tried to read mcgowan's comments but that person seems to be for the most part a "libertarian" with the remainder being a bundle of contradictions.

So...is Liberty's Flame really a kooky libertarian website as it appears to be?

Zesta  posted on  2012-08-02   9:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1858. To: Zesta (#1857)

I own the site. It is a place to state your opinions and debate them with others. There are leftists and Conservatives such as myself.

I'm a Pat Buchanan, Rand Paul type conservative. I guess there is some libertarian running through me. But I find most libertarians to simply be amoral.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-02   9:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1859. To: Zesta (#1857)

Zesta.

Are U a troll or do you just play one here.

And why ping me as you talk of me in the third person.

Do you have cojones, Zesta?

LMFAO.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   10:14:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1860. To: A K A Stone (#1858)

I own the site. It is a place to state your opinions and debate them with others. There are leftists and Conservatives such as myself.

I'm a Pat Buchanan, Rand Paul type conservative. I guess there is some libertarian running through me. But I find most libertarians to simply be amoral.

Nice...but I don't see any Libertarians around here.

Unless you mean non right wing Republicans.... and I don't think there is such a thing....

National Security Act of 1947

"The World At War: A New Germany

"A fascist is one whose lust for money or power is combined with such an intensity of intolerance toward those of other races, parties, classes, religions, cultures, regions or nations as to make him ruthless in his use of deceit or violence to attain his ends. The supreme god of a fascist, to which his ends are directed, may be money or power; may be a race or a class; may be a military, clique or an economic group; or may be a culture, religion, or a political party...

We all know the part that the cartels played in bringing Hitler to power, and the rule the giant German trusts have played in Nazi conquests. Monopolists who fear competition and who distrust democracy because it stands for equal opportunity would like to secure their position against small and energetic enterprise. In an effort to eliminate the possibility of any rival growing up, some monopolists would sacrifice democracy itself...

Still another danger is represented by those who, paying lip service to democracy and the common welfare, in their insatiable greed for money and the power which money gives, do not hesitate surreptitiously to evade the laws designed to safeguard the public from monopolistic extortion. American fascists of this stamp were clandestinely aligned with their German counterparts before the war, and are even now preparing to resume where they left off, after "the present unpleasantness" ceases.

Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.

They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution."

Henry A. Wallace, 33rd Vice President of the US, The Danger of American Fascism

jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   10:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1861. To: A K A Stone (#1856)

I hope the fight lasts a very long time. Down to the last man.

Perpetual War destroys the Empire....everytime.

And the Deal about being a super power is that you control all events.

IF you don't, what's the point?

And yes, 2.2 Billion are about to be wiped off the map.

sad. but true.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   10:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1862. To: mcgowanjm (#1861)

Perpetual War destroys the Empire....everytime.

Yes I want the muzzies to kill each other.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-02   10:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1863. To: A K A Stone (#0)

How to lose $440 million in 45 minutes.... :twisted: :lol: :roll: :shock: :? 8-)

Be wired into the NYSE and World Markets.

Do High Frequency Trading as your preferred platform.

HAve one of your algorithms programmed to give you the worst possible trades 40 per second for 45 minutes.

Then have the NYSE announce that All trades are good and will stand.

EASY Peasy..... 8-)

Knight Capital Group, Inc. (KCG) -NYSE

3.43 Down 3.51(50.58%) 10:59AM EDT - Nasdaq Real Time Price

From down 25% yesterday.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   11:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1864. To: All (#1863)

Two anagrams Black Knight Group wishes they'd never heard of:

HFT

and

Algo's.....8D

Us Dirty Fuckin' Hippies told you this blatant market manipulation would end badly.

SkyNet goes self aware and the USSA's done just as fast.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   11:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1865. To: A K A Stone (#1862)

Yes I want the muzzies to kill each other.

Spoken like a true zioFundy.

Your problem is that

Power trumps every religion.

The madness will not stop until it comes for you.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   11:29:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1866. To: A K A Stone (#0)

DEATH SPIRAL

and the CEO is clueless.

per ZH:

www.zerohedge.com/news/kn...rket-hap-one-day#comments

"Translation: we are shopping ourselves right now and unless someone pick us up by end of trading when the margin calls come in, tomorrow's open may be a little problematic. Of course, JPM will mysteriously step up in the last minute and provide a DIP-like loan in the process onboarding all the "segregated" accounts.

* KNIGHT BONDS FALL 13.125 CENTS TO 70 CENTS ON DOLLAR

Quite soon we may find out what it means to trade in a market which has just lost one of its key market makers, responsible for up to 15% of overall liquidity.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   11:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1867. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#1859)

Do you have cojones, Zesta?

No, nitwit, I don't. Blather on.

Zesta  posted on  2012-08-02   15:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1868. To: Zesta (#1867)

A female at LF....welcome....

I can be very sensitive.

Sincerely

Jim....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-02   20:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1869. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Sound Familiar?

" "I am not an important man... I possess only my personal sense of dignity. My life has been reduced to nothing by an intolerable insult. Therefore, I have nothing to lose except my life, which is nothing, so I trade my life for yours, as your life is favoured. The exchange is in my favour, so I shall not only kill you, but I shall kill many of you, and at the same time rehabilitate myself in the eyes of the group of which I am a member, even though I might be killed in the process."

The amok syndrome is an extreme instance of the puzzle of human emotions. Exotic at first glance, upon scrutiny they turn out to be universal; quintessentially irrational, they are tightly interwoven with abstract thought and have a cold logic of their own."

hipcrime.blogspot.com/201...ety-driving-us-crazy.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-03   8:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1870. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

The problem for the USSA is that we actually think that our colonies have been subdued....;}

"Thursday: 54 Killed, 74 Wounded

August 2, 2012

An extraordinary number of attacks on checkpoints and other security targets occurred across central and northern Iraq today. Most of them produced few casualties each, but together they eclipsed a bombing in Baghdad that left dozens killed or injured there. Overall, at least 54 people were killed and 74 more were wounded. Only yesterday, the Iraqi government, in releasing July casualties statistics admitted that violence in on the rise."

original.antiwar.com/upda...d-74-wounded-across-iraq/

O, and the difference between Liberation Movements and Fascists:

Fascists avoid military/infrastructure and target civilians....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-03   8:25:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1871. To: All (#1870) (Edited)

In Baghdad, a bomb killed nine people and wounded 32 others in Husseiniya; residents attacked federal police with their bare hands after the blast.

Now THAT's a non fascist attack.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-03   9:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1872. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"White South Africa regarded its wealth as prima facie evidence of cultural superiority."

The 20 to 1 disparity between Israeli and Palestinian per capita income matches the wealth gap between American Blacks and whites (app. $5,000 vs. $100,000 for median Black and white households). The fact that such numbers do not provoke general shock and calls for reparations is proof enough that most whites view the disparity as more a natural phenomenon than evidence of cumulative injustice. Daniel Patrick Moynihan spoke for white folks of the past, present and future when he posited, in 1965, that a Black "culture of poverty" is what keeps Black people poor – not pervasive white racism.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-03   10:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1873. To: A K A Stone (#0)

With KCG getting caught Front Running it's customers, getting caught on the Wrong side of the trade, and Then claiming it has a 'bank' extending a 'line of credit' til ......Wednesday/Monday/Who Knows the 'bank' does not exist.....

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 14:40 | 2676455 SheepDog-One SheepDog-One's picture

It sure as s**t isnt your grand dads market....100% broken fraud. How the hell anything goes on forward from here I have absolutely no idea.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-03 22:09:04 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-03   22:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1874. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

#623. To: Robin, All (#0)

First.

I notice that Never Ever does the 'links' following my Google present ANY of the Following:

Market Manipulation

Climate Change

Peak Oil

Never.

Which means they are ALL Full On in Play....8D

Second.

www.theoilage.com/post62943.html#p62943

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-04 9:30:51 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-04   9:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1875. To: mcgowanjm (#1874)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-04   17:33:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1876. To: A K A Stone (#1875)

Send that one to Manila.

2/3 of the city of 12 million is under water....;}

r sight in Metro Manila – DENR chief ...

newsinfo.inquirer.net/......me-familiar-sight-in-me...

23 hours ago – Latest News Stories ... MANILA, Philippines – Let's get used to great floods. ... adapt to climate change and the only way we could be prepared for the impact of climate change is to accept that these recent developments in our ...

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA...;}

We've altered 1/2 the planet, 95% expect 2 billion to be added in the next 25 years, and Now we're just going to have to get used to this.....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-09   10:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1877. To: All (#1876)

It wasn’t just that July was a single-record month: the 12 months ending with July was the warmest such period since modern recordkeeping began in 1895, and the January-July 2012 period was also the warmest on record. The top 13 warmest 12-month periods since 1895 have all occurred since 1999.

Brian Williams last nite:

"This is not a One Off. We'll have to get used to Climate Change.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-09   10:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1878. To: mcgowanjm (#1876)

getrealphilippines.com/bl...ver-the-last-two-decades/

Interestingly, the Aquino Administration after just a little over one year in power was said to have summarily cancelled projects that aimed to construct flood-control infrastructure initiated by former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasig_River

The Pasig River winds generally north-westward for some 25 kilometres (15.5 mi) from the Laguna de Bay, the largest lake in the Philippines, to Manila Bay, in the southern part of the island of Luzon. From the lake, the river runs between Taguig City, and Taytay, Rizal, before entering Pasig City. This portion of the Pasig River, to the confluence with the Marikina River tributary, is known as the Napindan River or Napindan Channel. From there, the river forms the common border between Makati City to the south and Pasig City, followed by Mandaluyong City to the north. The river then sharply turns northeast, where it has become the border between Mandaluyong and Manila before turning again westward, joining its other major tributary, the San Juan River, and then following a sinuous path through the center of Manila before emptying into the bay.

The whole river and most portions of its tributaries lie entirely within Metro Manila, the metropolitan region of the capital. Isla de Convalescencia (14°35′26"N 120°59′20"E), the only island dividing the Pasig River, can be found in Manila and it is where the Hospicio de San Jose is located. Tributaries and canals

One major river that drains Laguna de Bay is the Taguig River, which enters into Taguig before becoming the Pateros River; it is the border between the municipalities of Pateros and Makati City. Pateros River then enters the confluence where the Napindan Channel and Marikina River meet. The Marikina River is the larger of the two major tributaries of the Pasig River, and it flows southward from the mountains of Rizal and cuts through the Marikina Valley. The San Juan River drains the plateau on which Quezon City stands; its major tributary is Diliman Creek.

Within the city of Manila, various esteros (canals) criss-cross through the city and connect with the Tullahan River in the north and the Parañaque River to the west.

The growth of Manila along the banks of the Pasig River has made it a focal point for development and historical events. The foremost landmark on the banks of the river is the walled district of Intramuros, located near the mouth of the river on its southern bank. It was built by the Spanish colonial government in the 16th century. Further upstream is the Hospicio de San Jose, an orphanage located on Pasig's sole island, the Isla de Convalescencia. On the northern bank stands Malacañan Palace, the official residence of the President of the Philippines. Also on Pasig River's northern bank and within the Manila district of Sta. Mesa is the main campus of the Polytechnic University of the Philippines.

In Makati City, along the southern bank of Pasig, is the Sta. Ana Racetrack and the Rockwell Commercial Center, a high-end office and commercial area containing the Power Plant Mall. At the confluence of the Pasig and Marikina rivers is the Napindan Hydraulic Control Structure, which regulates the flow of water from the Napindan Channel.

The Pasig River's main watershed is concentrated in the plains between Manila Bay and Laguna de Bay. The watershed of the Marikina River tributary mostly occupies the Marikina Valley, which was formed by the Marikina Fault Line. The Manggahan Floodway is an artificially constructed waterway that aims to reduce the flooding in the Marikina Valley during the rainy season, by bringing excess water to the Laguna de Bay. Tidal flows

The Pasig River is technically considered a tidal estuary. Toward the end of the summer or dry season (April and May), the water level in Laguna de Bay reaches to a minimum of 10.5 meters. During times of high tide, the water level in the lake may drop below that of Manila Bay's, resulting in a reverse flow of seawater from the bay into the lake. This results in increased pollution and salinity levels in Laguna de Bay at this time of the year.[1] Flooding

The Pasig River is vulnerable to flooding in times of very heavy rainfall, with the Marikina River tributary the main source of the floodwater. The Manggahan Floodway was constructed to divert excess floodwater from the Marikina River into the Laguna de Bay, which serves as a temporary reservoir. By design, the Manggahan Floodway is capable of handling 2,400 cubic meters per second of water flow, although the actual flow is about 2,000 cubic meters per second. To complement the floodway, the Napindan Hydraulic Control System (NHCS) was built in 1983 at the confluence of the Marikina River and the Napindan Channel to regulate the flow of water between the Pasig River and the lake.[2]

Before the mass urbanization of Manila, the Pasig River served as an important means of transport; it was the city's lifeline and center of economic activity. Some of the most prominent kingdoms in early Philippine history, including the kingdoms of Namayan, Maynila, and Tondo grew up along the banks of the river, drawing their life and source of wealth from it. When the Spanish established Manila as the capital of their colonial properties in the Far East, they built the walled city of Intramuros on the southern bank of Pasig River near its mouth.

After World War II, massive population growth, infrastructure construction, and the dispersal of economic activities to Manila's suburbs left the river neglected. The banks of the river attracted informal settlers and the remaining factories dumped their wastes into the river, making it effectively a huge sewer system. Industrialization had already polluted the river.[3]

In the 1930s, observers noticed the increasing pollution of the river, as fish migration from Laguna de Bay diminished. People ceased using the river's water for laundering in the 1960s, and ferry transport declined. By the 1970s, the river started to emanate offensive smells, and in the 1980s, fishing in the river was prohibited. By the 1990s, the Pasig River was considered biologically dead[3]

Bankoff, Gregg (2003). "Constructing Vulnerability: The Historical, Natural and Social Generation of Flooding in Metropolitan Manila," Disasters, 27(3): 95–109.

"Metro Manila is situated in a semi-alluvial floodplain formed by sediment flow from the Meycauayan and Malabon-Tullahan river basins in the north and the Marikina river basin in the east.

It encompasses a land area of 636 square kilometres, measuring about 20 kilometres in length along a north-south axis and stretching more than 22 kilometres at its widest.

The conurbation is open to Manila Bay on the west and to Laguna de Bay, a large lake, on the south-east.

As such, the metropolitan area now constitutes a vast urbanised drainage basin that experiences frequent inundations from overflowing rivers and storm waters that render the existing system of esteros (modified natural channels) and canals constructed during the Spanish and American colonial periods inadequate.

Despite the growing vulnerability of much of the metropolitan area, however, rapid urbanisation has continued unabated with residential homes, industries and commercial sites increasingly exposed to flood-related destruction."

While flooding variously affects all areas of Manila, some cities and municipalities are more vulnerable than others due to their location and height relative to sea level. Some 20 per cent of the capital’s 63,600 square hectares is designated as flood prone, of which 5,385 square hectares (41 per cent) are served by pumping stations and the remaining 7,715 square hectares (59 per cent) suffer frequent and long lasting inundation.

Areas to the east, south-east and south of the capital around Marikina, Pasig, Mandaluyong, Muntinlupa and Parañaque and especially those adjacent to Laguna de Bay such as Taguig and Pateros are acutely susceptible to flooding.

n some particularly exposed cities such as Muntinlupa and Taguig, all barangays (the basic unit of local government) are regularly inundated and the coverage of flooding extends to 88 per cent and 83 per cent of their respective land areas.

Flooding is not a recent hazard in the Philippines but one that has occurred throughout the recorded history of the archipelago: it is the result of the low-lying nature of much of the terrain and the frequency of typhoons. These typhoons do not necessarily constitute hazards as such and are, in fact, responsible for a significant percentage of the annual rainfall that makes the islands so fertile and thus ideal for agriculture. This fertility, in turn, encourages or at least permits demographic growth and the location of people in large cities such as Metro Manila.

The demands of this steadily expanding urban population for basic amenities such as water, together with the nature of modern development, generate environmental problems like accelerated subsidence and garbage disposal that, in conjunction with the torrential rainfall associated with tropical storms, aggravates the incidence and severity of flooding in the metropolitan area.

The concentration of employment, educational and health among other opportunities in the ‘big city’ only spurs more rural-to-urban migration, creates shortages of suitable residential land and encourages the occupation of areas more prone to flooding or that have important drainage functions.

The actions of governments and the technological solutions they mainly favour have only limited outcomes and may actually aggravate conditions usually to the disadvantage of the most vulnerable poor, whether urban or rural. The construction of vulnerability to flood in Metro Manila, therefore, clearly shows how societies and destructive agents are very much mutually constituted and embedded in natural and social systems as unfolding processes over time.

Heavy rain is no surprise in the Philippines - the country typically gets at least 20 typhoons a year - and some claim that global climate change is making the problem worse. Even if that view is wrong, clearly more can be done to diminish the effect of extreme rains, in Manila and across the country. To be sure, the country is a poor one, but that does not excuse the official failure to learn from history, notably from the 2009 Manila flooding which killed at least 460.

Despite solemn promises made then, low-lying shantytowns continue to grow, and rubbish dumped by their residents clogs drainage canals and sewers. Around the city, meanwhile, forested areas capable of retaining water in the soil, are being cleared to build suburbs for the affluent.

SJN  posted on  2012-08-09   11:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1879. To: mcgowanjm (#1877)

SJN  posted on  2012-08-09   11:29:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1880. To: All (#1879)

" There are some scoundrels, however, who purposely clog the drainage pipes of some streets precisely to induce floods. Why? So that vehicles will stall in the floods and they will earn by pushing the stalled vehicles to higher ground. Or they can earn fees from pedestrians who do not want to get their feet wet to use the wooden planks that they have laid above the water. Or they can ferry them from dry ground to dry ground on their pushcarts—for a fee. Trabaho lang, they will tell you.

That is par for the course in low-lying areas like España. But what about V. Luna street in Quezon City that was never flooded before? Why was it suddenly flooded one day so that many vehicles stalled and had to be pushed to higher ground by men waiting there? Workers of the MMDA found the drainage pipes blocked with rocks and garbage. Were the rocks lodged there by the floodwaters or purposely placed there to block the drainage pipe and cause the flooding?"

SJN  posted on  2012-08-09   11:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1881. To: All (#1880)

" In a comment on my colleague Floyd Whaley’s story in The New York Times, Tomas Gomez III of Calbayog called metropolitan Manila an “abused space.”

“It is engaged in self-strangulation by not consciously decongesting and redistributing its population,” Mr. Gomez said. “Slums and squatter colonies predominate much of the terrain, occupying what used to be open canals/streams, river tributaries and even riverbanks themselves. Clogging of natural drainage arteries is the tolerated norm. It is beyond its carrying capacity and for a long time now has been bursting at the seams.”

SJN  posted on  2012-08-09   11:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1882. To: All (#1881)

SJN  posted on  2012-08-09   11:37:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1883. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Too Late. Never Mind. We're Done....;}

"

"Once a threshold-induced planetary state shift occurs, there's no going back. So, if a system switches to a new state because you've added lots of energy, even if you take out the new energy, it won't revert back to the old system. The planet doesn't have any memory of the old state."

These projections contradict the popularly held belief that the extent to which human-induced pressures, such as climate change, are destroying our planet is still debatable, and any collapse would be both gradual and centuries away.

This study concludes we better not exceed the 50 per cent mark of wholesale transformation of Earth's surface or we won't be able to delay, never mind avert, a planetary collapse.

We've already reached the 43 per cent mark through our conversion of landscapes into agricultural and urban areas, making Earth increasingly susceptible to an environmental epidemic."

www.sfu.ca/pamr/media-rel...e-planetary-collapse.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-10   8:27:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1884. To: SJN (#0)

A Climate Change article wil appear soon in the Right Column.

Wonder what it will be about....LMFAO....8D

'We must get used to Climate Change.'

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...shoulda thought about that one back in Reagan's Age....too late now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-10   8:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1885. To: SJN (#1878)

so you're an Imelda Marcos fan, eh?

Think the USSA has been good to it's colony of 'jack rabbits' ?...;}

The next False Flag in ...say....September,

you'll be blaming everyone but the Imperial City, London, and Tel Aviv.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-10   9:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1886. To: A K A Stone, SJN, All (#0)

#4. To: All (#3)

r sight in Metro Manila – DENR chief ...

newsinfo.inquirer.net/......me-familiar-sight-in-me...

23 hours ago – Latest News Stories ... MANILA, Philippines – Let's get used to great floods. ... adapt to climate change and the only way we could be prepared for the impact of climate change is to accept that these recent developments in our ...

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA...;}

We've altered 1/2 the planet, 95% expect 2 billion to be added in the next 25 years, and Now we're just going to have to get used to this.....

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....yeast....we are no different.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-09 10:28:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #5. To: mcgowanjm, *Global Climate Change* (#3)

"These people aren't just on the other side of this debate. They're on the other side of reality.”

Yes, yes it is lost on them.

I think many just don't want to think. They like Limbaugh and Beck and Fox news doing their thinking for them.

Then, like my neighbor, all they need do is put a Romney sign on the front of their house.

“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist.” Dom Hélder Pessoa Câmara, Archbishop of Olinda and Recife, also known as the ‘Bishop of Corum’ He wrote "Spiral of Violence"

Robin

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-10   9:13:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1887. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Two things your gov't will never tell you:

Monsanto and the Bees: Interviews with Tom Philpott, Paul Towers ...

lftlc.com/monsanto-and-be...philpott-paul-towers-an...

May 19, 2012 – Loss of bee colonies threatens more than half the food we eat. This hour, Monsanto, Bayer, genetically modified seeds, bees and super weeds; ...

AND

Mercury in vaccines cause of Autism.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-10   9:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1888. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Aleppo: Conflicting stories and the truth 10.08.2012

Again the western media is manipulating the facts, sifting through footage taken in recent weeks, showing out-of-date clips of tanks being commandeered by terrorists, then after their murderous filth was chased out of Damascus, they paint a rosy story of Aleppo. The truth so obviously hurts, hence the lies. Here is the full truth and nothing but.

The Free Syrian Terrorist Force is, sorry to spoil the fun, certainly not composed by Syrians. Around 75 per cent of them are foreign mercenaries, murderers, "ex-SAS", "ex-French special forces", Libyan rapists, murderers and torturers, and so on, complete with the hierarchy composed of Iraqis and Turks and the token Syrian for the cameras.

Secondly, and sorry to spoil the fun again, things are not going very well for this western-backed scourge and their western masters, furiously scratching their heads as to what to do next. After Libya, with nobody believing a word London, Washington or Paris says any more, and after the foreign policy disaster in Iraq, invading outside the UNSC, what can they do, except keep on sending foreign mercenaries and murderers to their deaths inside Syria?

english.pravda.ru/opinion...12/121873-aleppo_truth-0/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-10   9:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1889. To: All (#1888)

Western leaders slip back into their childhood by Thierry Meyssan

The slogan "Bashar must go!" was supposed to be chanted by crowds of protesters in Damascus and Aleppo. In the absence of such demonstrations, it has been taken over by Western leaders themselves even though it goes against all the conventional rules of diplomacy. Why? Voltaire Network | Damascus (Syria) | 8 August 2012

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-10   9:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1890. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I wonder how many times I have to post:

Market Manipulation

Climate Change

Peak Oil

before Google picks it up?

Infinite fractal.....8D

40% of Texas freshwater used for fracking.

As

40% of corn used for ethanol.

USDA ERS - Corn: Background www.ers.usda.gov › Topics › Crops › Corn

May 28, 2012 – Most of the crop is used as the main energy ingredient in livestock feed. Corn is also processed into a multitude of food and industrial products ... 40% the amount of Brazilian soy China bought this Spring.

Short of soy Brazil meat producers want to import from Bolivia ...

http://en.mercopress.com/.../sho...at-producers-want-to-im...

5 hours ago – “In the first half of the year China bought a lot of Brazilian soy, so now our stock is zero, in fact it is probably negative,” said Alexandre ...

China to Buy $4.3 Billion of Soybeans in Deals With U.S. Exporters ...

http://www.bloomberg.com/.../chi...llion-of-soybeans-in-de...

Feb 15, 2012 – China, the world's biggest soybean importer and consumer, signed agreements in ... Soybeans have jumped 5.1 percent this year on the Chicago Board of Trade, ... China Signs $4.3 Billion of Soybean-Buying Deals With U.S. ...

Grains essentially the same price as this time last year.

Any questions?....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-10   10:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1891. To: mcgowanjm (#1890)

Any questions?....;}

Yes, you gibbering libTURD SCUM, I have one.

Did your parents have any children that lived?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-08-10   14:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1892. To: mcgowanjm (#1890)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-10   21:37:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1893. To: cz82 (#1892)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-10   22:17:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1894. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Right now I'm trying to figure how a Command Sergeant Major is killed and the assailant walks away....;}

"Afghan soldier shoots 6 American invaders dead, 3 wounded in Laghman LAGHMAN, Aug. 09 – A recent news report from Laghman province points out that on Thursdays, Abd-us-Samad, resident of Kunar province, apparently working for the puppet Afghan National Army (ANA) turned his heavy machine gun on the American invaders in a joint base and opened fire on those inside the base and threw about 5 hand grenades at the invading forces. In addition to killing at least 6 American invaders, the brave Afghan left a further three cowardly American troops wounded. Thursday’s shooting comes as the enemy was amid a meeting in joint military base in Mehtarlam Baba, the capital of Laghman province and was one of the most moral-shattering attacks by a lone Afghan on the Americans since the “Operation Al-Farooq” initiated. The brave Afghan, after accomplishing his mission, was about to leave the base as he was shot from the helicopter and joint the highest rank of martyrs.

Police officer shoots dead 4 American invaders in Helmand, wounds 3 HELMAND, Aug. 10 – Recent reports arriving from Helmand province state that an Afghan local police officer has opened fire on a gathering of American invaders, according to officials from Sangin district.Latest reports indicate that the shooting, carried out by the head of the said local police squad (Asadullah), took place in Sarwan Kala region’s Kozki area at dusk time Thursday on 7 high ranking American troops ,who also trained Afghan forces as a result, that were invited for dinner as a result, 4 invaders have been confirmed dead while the 3 others were severely wounded. The hero officer later left the area with his weapon and joined up with Mujahideen.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-11   9:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1895. To: Mad Dog (#1891)

Smegma. The best part of you rolled down your daddy's leg...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-11   10:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1896. To: A K A Stone (#1892)

Yeah, just like All the Psychos in DC.

Now let's see your take on that asshole, Romney.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-11   10:02:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1897. To: All (#0)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-11   20:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1898. To: A K A Stone (#0)

First off, This is a lie:

"In 25 attacks this year, 31 U.S. coalition service members have died at the hands of Afghan forces or insurgents disguised in Afghan uniforms, according to NATO. There were 11 such attacks and 20 deaths last year, according to an Associated Press count. Each of the previous two years saw five such attacks. "

It's in nearly EVERY USSA article along with this:

"Taliban often exaggerate their claims."

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-12   8:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1899. To: A K A Stone (#0)

[quote="WSWS above"][b]34 [/b]US and other occupation troops have been killed in at least 25 such attacks. This compares to a total of 35 killed for all of 2011in at least 21 attacks. [/quote]

Did WSWS add '3' from this week's attacks??

They should've added '20'.

Note this as well:

[quote]In the latest devastating attack, insurgents struck at the command staff of the 4th Brigade Combat Team of the 4th Infantry Division in Asadabad, the capital of Kunar Province[/quote]

All of these killings are decapitating the 'command staff'. Where is the Security for these officers? The Flag is being 'captured' by the Insurgency and in more than 1/3 of these incidents, they're getting away.

The Worst Scenario possible.

[quote]Corrigan said she learned that Capt. Manoukian was killed while having a meal with a group of Afghan police officers Thursday. Manoukian was on his fourth tour in Afghanistan when he was killed. He was shot by an Afghan police officer. [/quote]

[quote]And 3 SpecOps[/quote]

[quote] The U.S. government identified four Americans who were killed along with an Afghan civilian in a twin suicide attack in eastern Kunar province on Wednesday: USAID foreign service officer Ragaei Abdelfattah, Air Force Maj. Walter D. Gray, of Conyers, Ga.; Army Maj. Thomas E. Kennedy, of West Point, N.Y.; and Command Sgt. Maj. Kevin J. Griffin, of Laramie, Wyo.[/quote]

Plus three MORE marines at least. Just this week. Not including the wounded.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-12   8:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1900. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#1. To: Robin (#0)

the future of human civilization.

Hoover Dam stops producing electricity/water by 2017.

And in 4 years USSans will ALL realize that 2012 was not a One Off but the Short, Very Short beginning of human Civilizations future.

By 2020 at the latest.

mcgowanjm

Market Manipulation

Climate Change

Peak Oil....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-12   8:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1901. To: A K A Stone (#0)

From Wiki:

[quote] *

[edit] History

Paktia is basically Pashtia (پښتیا). Some Pashtun scholars are claiming that the word Pashtu has been stemmed from Pashtia (پښتو = پښتیا). Paktia used to be a unified province with Khost and Paktika, these three provinces are now referred to as Loya Paktia, meaning "Greater Paktia". Paktia came to prominence during the 1980s, when a significant portion of Afghanistan's leadership originated from the province. Some of the more notable leaders include: Najibullah Ahmadzai, a former President of Afghanistan, Mohammad Aslam Watanjar, Shahnawaz Tanai, and Sayed Muhammad Gulabzoi.

More recently, Paktia was the site of heavy fighting between Taliban and NATO forces following the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. [b]Paktia was one of the last redoubts of organized Taliban resistance; much of Operation Anaconda took place in Zurmat, one of Paktia's larger districts.[/b][/quote]

[quote]Paktia was one of the last redoubts of organized Taliban resistance; much of Operation Anaconda took place in Zurmat, one of Paktia's larger districts.[/quote]

Notice the Past Tense? :twisted: :? 8-)

And whatever happened to Op Anaconda, the Last Op by the USSAns.... :twisted:

[quote]Operation Anaconda kills 800 in Afghanistan OPERATION ANACONDA

CNN

March 13, 2002

An estimated 800 al Qaeda and Taliban fighters died trying to stave off a 12-day U.S. and allied assault in eastern Afghanistan's [b]Shah-e-kot Valley[/b], U.S. officials said Wednesday.

Afghan forces fighting alongside U.S. troops seized control Wednesday of the last remaining high ground previously controlled by hold-out Taliban and al Qaeda, said Maj. Brian Hilferty, a U.S. Central Command spokesman.

No senior al Qaeda leaders were killed in the campaign dubbed Operation Anaconda, U.S. officials said. But officials stressed that the slain fighters who once posed a direct threat to Afghanistan's interim government headed by Hamid Karzai [b]are now gone[/b].[/quote]

Well, except for these guys:

[quote]Paktia Province, Afghanistan, March 4, 2002 Operation Enduring Freedom, the military action against Taliban and al-Qaida forces in Afghanistan, was the catalyst for the largest mobilization of Air National Guard personnel since the Korean War. It also marked the first time that Air National Guard ground units, particularly pararescue personnel and air combat controllers, were used to support joint ground combat operations. As part of Enduring Freedom, in March 2002 a joint military operation named "Anaconda" was mounted in Paktia province to surround and defeat Taliban forces hiding in the area. On the third day of Operation Anaconda an Army MH-47E Chinook helicopter was fired upon as it attempted to land on a ridge on Takur Ghar mountain. Taking heavy fire, the helicopter lurched and attempted to take-off to extricate itself from the field of fire. When the Chinook lurched, one of the Navy SEALs on board, Petty Officer First Class Neil C. Roberts, fell from the rear ramp. Too damaged to return for Petty Officer Roberts, the Chinook landed further down the mountain. A second MH-47E attempted to land and rescue Roberts, but it too was fired upon and forced to leave the immediate area. The third MH-47E to attempt a landing on what became known as Roberts’ Ridge was hit with automatic weapons fire and rocket-propelled grenades while still 20 feet in the air. The helicopter, containing an Army Ranger Team and Technical Sergeant Keary Miller, a Combat Search and Rescue Team Leader from the 123d Special Tactics Squadron, Kentucky Air National Guard, hit the ground hard. Within seconds, one helicopter crewman, the right door gunner, was killed, as were three Army Rangers. The 17-hour ordeal that followed would result in the loss of seven American lives, including Petty Officer Roberts. Technical Sergeant Miller not only managed to drag the wounded helicopter pilot to safety, but also orchestrated the establishment of multiple casualty collection points. In between treating the wounded, Miller set up the distribution of ammunition for the Army Rangers who were taking the fight to the enemy. For his extraordinary life-saving efforts while putting himself in extreme danger under enemy fire, Technical Sergeant Miller was awarded the Silver Star by the U.S. Navy, one of the few members of the Air National Guard to be so honored. [/quote]

And this:

www.usatoday.com/graphics/news/gra/ganaconda/flash.htm

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I challenge Anyone to make sense of Operation Anaconda... :? 8-)

[quote]The U.S. forces estimated they had killed at least 500 fighters over the duration of the battle, however journalists later noted that only 23 bodies were found - and critics suggested that after a couple days, the operation "was more driven by media obsession, than military necessity".[3][/quote]

[quote]Shah-i-Kot Valley From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search

The Shah-i-Kot Valley (also Shahi-Kot, Shah-e-Kot and other variant spellings) is a valley located in Afghanistan's Paktia province, southeast of the town of Zormat. The terrain in and around the valley is notoriously rugged, located at a mean altitude of 9,000 feet (2,700 m). Shah-i-Kot means "Place of the King" and it has historically been a redoubt for Afghan guerrillas hiding from foreign invaders.

The area was the scene of fierce fighting between the Afghan mujahideen rebels and Soviet forces during the Afghan-Soviet War, as the fiere battle for Hill 3234.

It was also the scene of what was then the largest battle of the U.S.-Afghan War to date.[1][2][3] The Battle of Shah-i-Kot took place during Operation Anaconda, which began on 2 March 2002.[/quote]

And WHY talk about the above?

Because TODAY the Shahi-Kot is being Abandoned by the USSA:

[quote] * Contact us

Invaders abandon and burn down strategic base in Zurmat Zabihullah mujahid E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 24 Ramadan 1433 Sunday, 12 August 2012 12:10

PAKTIA, Aug. 12 – A large strategic base of foreign troops in Rahman Khel area, Mamozi region, was abandoned and burnt down by the invaders who fled the area last night, according to officials reporting from Zurmat district.

This large base was located and occupied by a large contingent in the desert of Rahman Khel from where the invaders carried out operations in Mamozi, Shah-i-Kot, Arma district and other areas.

The cowardly invaders were finally forced to vacate their recently built base due to constant missile attacks for the past few years. Mujahideen in the district say that with this development, this whole large region once again comes under their complete control and can freely move between various areas of Zurmat district, Shah-i-Kot, Arma district and Naka district of Paktika province.

It should be mentioned that foreign invaders have recently begun abandoning dozens of their strategic bases throughout Afghanistan which in itself in proof that the nation is gradually attaining its freedom and also the military defeat of foreign crusader forces and their allies.

Al-Emarah website always strives to collect such news of fleeing of the enemy as well as the advancements of Mujahideen so it can be a cause of happiness for the oppressed Afghan nation in this time of Eid.[/quote]

By Xmas.... :twisted: :? 8-)

And just like VietNam in 1971 our troops are just keeping their heads down.

Looking to get out alive.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-12   9:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1902. To: mcgowanjm (#1900)

I am the one responsible for shit bird canceling her polls she used to put up.

I am responsible for her hiding her site so no one can see what they talk about.

Mission Accomplished.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-12   9:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1903. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Why did we invade the Afghans?

And it doesn't stop. Compare and Decide:

[quote] The man, who some sources report was a Taliban infiltrator dressed to look like part of the Afghan police force, opened fire at the officers at a checkpoint in the southwestern province of Nimroz.

"Unfortunately 11 of our brave national police were killed in this cowardly attack," Nimroz governor Abdul Karim Brahawi told AFP.

"Initial investigation shows the shooter was a Taliban infiltrator. He was also killed when police returned fire," Brahawi said. [/quote]

[quote]Qari Muhammad Yousuf Ahmadi/zabihullah mujahid E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 24 Ramadan 1433 Sunday, 12 August 2012 12:07 11 including commander killed by 2 infiltrators NIMROZ, Aug. 11 – Reports arriving from Delaram district of Nimroz province indicate that earlier today in the afternoon time, 2 infiltrator Mujahideen who had taken up jobs inside the check post of Commander Isa (a notorious regional commander) opened fire on the hirelings, leaving the commander and 11 of his gunmen dead and several other wounded before leaving the area and joining up with Mujahideen.[/quote]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-12   9:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1904. To: A K A Stone (#1902) (Edited)

I am the one responsible for shit bird canceling her polls she used to put up.

I am responsible for her hiding her site so no one can see what they talk about.

Mission Accomplished.

So you claim responsibility for Agit Prop.

Great Job.

How's that Censorship by Silence workin' for ya, Stone?

And it doesn't stop.

It comes down to this:

The USSA the Empire that never was, is circling the drain.

Market Manipulation

Climate change

Peak Oil.

The $ remains strong to the end.

Xmas. 2012.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-12   9:58:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1905. To: mcgowanjm (#1903)

Why did we invade the Afghans?

You are someone who doesn't get answers to their questions. You have to answer questions to get them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-12   10:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1906. To: mcgowanjm (#1904)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-12   10:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1907. To: A K A Stone (#1902) (Edited)

I am the one responsible for shit bird canceling her polls she used to put up.

I am responsible for her hiding her site so no one can see what they talk about.

Mission Accomplished.

What a mightly little man you are. You not only killed your own site, you try to kill off other's too. But the big question is: why does no one else will brag about your immense feats of cross forum manipulation but yourself.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-08-12   10:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1908. To: mininggold (#1907)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-12   20:43:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1909. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Al Qaeda...Now, our Bestest Buddy.

Feel like a tool yet?

8D

Blum:

"So, if you want to understand this thing called United States foreign policy ... forget about the War on Terrorism, forget about September 11, forget about democracy, forget about freedom, forget about human rights, forget about religion, forget about the people of Libya and Syria ... keep your eyes on the prize ... Whatever advances American global domination. Whatever suits their goals at the moment. There is no moral factor built into the DNA of US foreign policy."

I think it is the complete nonchalance of Obama's flaunting of American hypocrisy - not to mention the fact that the official American alliance with 'al Qaeda' has passed completely unnoticed by all the rabid Islamophobe proponents of the 'war on terror' - that is fuelling all the anger."

-xymphora

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   7:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1910. To: A K A Stone (#1905)

You are someone who doesn't get answers to their questions. You have to answer questions to get them.

Disinfo as well as censorship.

As an AgitProp master now, you need to realize that Some truth Must be included.

Otherwise, like Goldi before you, it gets boring....;}

Market Manipulation

Climate Change

Empire

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   8:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1911. To: All (#1910)

Remember Ia Drang Valley?

And the We Were Soldiers movie based on it?

Where Mel Gibson gets the message that he will be pulled out so as not to lose a Major?

So how does the Command Sergeant Major, and two other Majors get blown away with a retired military USAID man

and the perp just walks away.

Security? A Brigade not enough?

LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   8:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1912. To: All (#1911)

All Fools' Day:

"For lethal Bibi, that’s obviously not enough. It doesn’t matter that technically and logistically Israel simply does not have what it takes to conduct a successful strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities. Take a look at this concise infographics. For starters, Israel does not have the latest generation MOP GBU-57A bunker buster bombs to hit deep underground Iranian installations. It does not have the Northrop Grumman’s B-2 stealth bombers to deliver them. And it does not have enough Lockheed Martin KC-130 aerial tankers (only 5; the US has 80) for refueling its attacking F-15s and F-16s. There is no evidence the Obama administration will be authorizing the Pentagon to supply all of the above to the Bibi-Barak duo anytime soon. And let’s introduce a little bit of sanity into this madness, courtesy of Russian foreign minister Primakov, who tells it like it is:; go ahead, attack Iran; and then, inevitably, they will go for a bomb.

Is Turkey about to enter the 9th (Kurdish) circle of hell? Clinton has just been to Turkey in a very Libyan “We came, we saw, he died” mood; it’s as if she was replaying her Angel of Death role, presiding over the imminent demise of Assad. Not so fast....;}

You can tell when your Masters are losing.

Dead Silence...........

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   8:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1913. To: All (#1912)

Iraq had NO problems with electricity until the Battle of Baghdad Airport.

Since then......

"When we follow the game at home, every five minutes the electricity is gone," said Lami, a 37-year-old truck driver who was at a cafe in central Baghdad to watch Olympic football.

The Iraqi national grid only supplies a few hours of electricity per day, interrupted by multi-hour outages, and Iraqis either have to make up the shortfall with private generators or do without electricity during the cuts.

"The electricity in Iraq has become like a chronic disease, and all the people are suffering," said Lami, an ardent football fan who was sitting with five of his children around a table near a television showing the Olympics, smoking flavored tobacco from a water pipe."

Why did we invade Iraq?

Why are we Bestest buddies with Al qaeda now?

Feel like a putz?

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   8:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1914. To: All (#1910) (Edited)

SYrian "rebel" brandishing looted Christian cross and vestments.

So the Israeli/CIa Al Qaeda is randomly terrorizing/killing Christians,

but the zioFundies think that's A-OK.

;}

Lebanon, then facing divisive chaos, was Yinon’s model for the entire Middle East. Yinon wrote:

“Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian Peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target.” link

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   8:47:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1915. To: All (#1914)

Saturday, August 11, 2012 Israel's Colony, the USSA Strikes Again “When the world looks at America, what it sees is an Israeli colony.”

Paul Craig Roberts

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Are there any Americans left in the USSA that put America first or have we become so dumbed down and brainwashed by Zionist propaganda that we act like a bunch of trained seals, clapping loudly for more wars to protect Apartheid Israel from reality and advance the Zionist agenda?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   8:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1916. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Your Navy at work.....;}

Print US Navy ship collides with oil tanker in Persian Gulf

Posted on August 12, 2012 by Angel - NYC

Houston Chronicle DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — A U.S. Navy guided missile destroyer was left with a gaping hole on one side after it collided with an oil tanker early Sunday just outside the strategic Strait of Hormuz.

The collision left a breach about 10 feet by 10 feet (three by three meters) in the starboard side of USS Porter. No one was injured on either vessel, the U.S. Navy said in a statement.

The collision with the Panamanian-flagged and Japanese-owned bulk oil tanker M/V Otowasan happened about 1 a.m. local time. Photos released by the Navy showed workers standing amid twisted metal and other debris hanging down from the hole.

The cause of the incident is under investigation, the Navy said, though the collision was not “combat related.” There were no reports of spills or leakages from either the USS Porter or the Otowasan, the Navy said.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   9:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1917. To: All (#1916)

The next Israel attack signals it's Doom:

Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:58AM GMT

By Ismail Salami

But if Israel ever ventures into a military strike against Iran, it must ask itself this question first: how many Iranian missiles can the Zionist entity take 10,000? 20,000? 50,000? 100,000? 150,000 or more?"

“Why on earth is the Zionist regime making threats against Iran? How many missiles have they prepared themselves for? 10,000? 20,000? 50,000? 100,000? 150,000 or more?"

These words were expressed in full force on November 27, 2011 by Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   9:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1918. To: A K A Stone (#0)

We've Got to stop taking these meetings.

Or fly in cheney, bush (any of 'em') to handle it.

Infiltrator Mujahid kills 3 invaders in Achin district, wounds 4 others Zabihullah mujahid

E-mail Print PDF Monday, 25 Ramadan 1433

Monday, 13 August 2012 12:51

NANGARHAR, Aug. 13 – Officials reporting from Achin district of Nangarhar province say that at around 12:00 pm today, an infiltrator Mujahid turned his gun on American terrorists in the district headquarters.

The attack happened as the invaders were holding a meeting with puppet officials inside the district center when the Afghan Mujahid police officer (Sher Ali, the son of Ismael) opened fire with a Pk machine gun, leaving 3 invaders dead and 4 others severely wounded including the district NDS director. The brave hero left the headquarters after the successful attack and joined up with Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate in the district.

Officials added that Sher Ali was in contact with Mujahideen for a long period of time and finally carried out the attack today using an opportune time. It is worth reminding that such attacks have picked up steam lately and this is the fifth attack by infiltrators on foreign troops in the past week which has left dozens of invaders dead.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   9:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1919. To: A K A Stone (#0)

the year 2020, in other words, there will be zero sea ice for the six months from June through to November.

With thinning ice & Major cyclones, possibly by this time next year.

Picasso Moon wrote:[quote]Droughts and El Ninos are hardly mutually exclusive, far from it. It all depends where, how strong an El Nino, where do high pressures set up, how many butterflies flex their wings,...[/quote]

And how much ice is in the Arctic.

4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ufr35q...w-8/s640/piomas-trnd6.png

A Martian viewing the Polar Region would be saying the Earth's climate is radically being altered..... :twisted: :

[quote] In conclusion, it looks like there will be no sea ice from August 2015 through to October 2015, while a further three months look set to reach zero in 2017, 2018 and 2019 (respectively July, November and June). Before the start of the year 2020, in other words, there will be zero sea ice for the six months from June through to November.

Actually, events may unfold even more rapidly. As the ice gets thinner, it becomes more prone to break up if there are storms. At the same time, the frequency and intensity of storms looks set to increase as temperatures rise and as there will be more open water in the Arctic Ocean. [/quote]

The US SW will begin to radically turn to desert now. Forests will disappear.

http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   11:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1920. To: mcgowanjm (#1919)

the year 2020, in other words, there will be zero sea ice for the six months from June through to November.

You're a friggin' loon.

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-13   18:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1921. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.theoilage.com/post63195.html#p63195

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   20:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1922. To: Capitalist Eric (#1920)

You're a friggin' loon.

And You need to get out more....;}

"People with cohesive social networks, whether offices, cliques or industries, tend to think and act the same, he explains. In the long run, this homogeneity deadens creativity. As Mr. Burt's research has repeatedly shown, people who reach outside their social network not only are often the first to learn about new and useful information, but they are also able to see how different kinds of groups solve similar problems."

Burt.

http://www.theoilage.com/post63195.html#p63195">www.theoilage.com/post63195.html#p63195

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   21:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1923. To: Capitalist Eric (#1920) (Edited)

the year 2020, in other words, there will be zero sea ice for the six months from June through to November.

http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2...ate-9-stormy-weather.html

Rate of arctic summer sea ice loss is 50% higher than predicted New satellite images show polar ice coverage dwindling in extent and thickness

Gu_ice_extension-01Credit: Giulio Frigieri

Sea ice in the Arctic is disappearing at a far greater rate than previously expected, according to data from the first purpose-built satellite launched to study the thickness of the Earth's polar caps.

www.guardian.co.uk/enviro.../arctic-sea-ice-vanishing

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-13   21:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1924. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Actually, events may unfold even more rapidly. As the ice gets thinner, it becomes more prone to break up if there are storms. At the same time, the frequency and intensity of storms looks set to increase as temperatures rise and as there will be more open water in the Arctic Ocean. [/quote]

The US SW will begin to radically turn to desert now. Forests will disappear.

arctic-news.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-13 11:23:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #644. To: All (#0)

And we all know this. We're just not very eager to fully admit it to ourselves. We see only what we want to see. Even if the evidence is so prevalent all around us that it's impossible to escape.

theautomaticearth.com/Fin...-and-the-rule-of-law.html

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-14 9:14:42 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-14   9:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1925. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And those 2010 emissions haven't been factored into the Planet's Heat rise yet.....yet..... :roll:

[img]tamino.files.wordpress.co...pdf.jpg?w=500&h=322[/img]

[quote]The most important aspect of this comparison isn’t the higher mean value for the most recent temperatures. It’s the fact that extreme high values — above 2-sigma and especially above 3-sigma — are so much more frequent. Much. And that’s the real problem. When a 3-sigma event happens, it’s a problem but we can deal with it and recover from it. [b]When 10 (or more) times as many 3-sigma events happen … we have a problem.[/b]

That means we’re already in trouble. The really bad news is that we’re already in trouble from just the warming we’ve already experienced, but it’s going to get worse because it’s going to get hotter. You think the 2011 Texas-Oklahoma heat wave was bad? You think this year’s corn-belt heat wave was bad? You think the 2010 Russian heat wave was very very bad? You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.[/quote]

tamino.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/hansen-et-al-2012/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-14   12:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1926. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Neat the way Debka's Never blocked.

No problems .....ever.

Like It'll be the Last URL that works on the internet.....;}

MAjor fighting underway on the Pak/Afghan border.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-14   13:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1927. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Like I said....Debka.....9/11.....;}

"if israel is so happy with al-qaeda, what does that say about 9/11?

Syrian rebels armed with first T-62 tanks DEBKAfile, Aug 14 2012

The Syrian rebels’ Western and Arab sponsors have ratcheted up their military assistance by giving them tanks, 20 Russian-made T-62 tanks from Libya, debkafile reports. Clinton gave the nod for the transfer to the rebels of their first heavy weapons during her brief visit to Istanbul on Aug 13, as the prelude to the next step of the war. Qatar is paying for the tanks. The Obama administration first agreed to Turkey arming the Free Syrian Army with FIM-92 anti-air Stinger missiles. On Aug 13, rebels shot down a Syrian Air Force Mig-21 over the northeastern town of Deir al-Zour, using shoulder-carried Stingers. The Syrian government claimed it had crashed because of technical problems, but the rebels quickly released photos of the captured pilot, Col Rafiq Mohammed Suleiman, surrounded by their guns. The Syrian conflict has thus entered a new phase, the prelude to the creation of the first safe havens inside the country, which the FSA and other rebel groups will now be armed to defend. Turkey has drawn up plans for carving out those safe havens between 5 and 25 km deep inside Syrian territory and on its borders with Turkey and Iraq. Ankara is concerned less with the military aspects of those safe zones than with using them to relieve Turkey of the burden of hundreds of thousands of displaced Syrians who have fled and continue to flee across the border into Turkey as destitute refugees. The supply of tanks and the Stingers lays the ground for the sanctuaries’ defenses. The 20 T-62 tanks from Libya were unloaded last week at the Turkish port of Iskenderun, already painted over with FSA insignia. They were handed to Syrian rebel teams trained in tank warfare and have since crossed into northern Syria."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-14   13:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1928. To: A K A Stone (#0)

When/Where everything went down:

1921.

Treaty of Ankara (1921)

Winston Churchill and T. E. Lawrence, 1921 ... - Library of Congress www.loc.gov/exhibits/chur...e/_html/wc0079.htmlCached - Similar

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-15   8:30:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1929. To: mcgowanjm (#1928)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-15   8:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1930. To: All (#1929)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-15   8:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1931. To: A K A Stone (#1930)

I want it removed cause it's slowing down my thread.....8D

Real News:

All legal protections are now officially gone.

The federal appeals court ruled yesterday that not only does BNYM stay at the front of the line, but that using customer segregated funds as collateral is NOT a crime, and that co-mingling customer segregated funds with proprietary funds is NOT fraud.

What this means is that even if Jon Corzine is somehow dragged into court by private citizens, because you know damn good and well that the Justice Department will never, ever touch him, Corzine now has a legal precedent, likely from a bribed or otherwise coerced Federal Appeals Court, explicitly stating that an FCM can use customer deposits to pay its debts, and that the customers themselves are subjugated and have basically no legal right to their own monies, no matter what the law says, or what legal assurances, claims or guarantees are made to that customer about their funds held with an FCM or any other brokerage or depository institution. The “secured” party at the front of the line will always be the mega-bank who made the fraudulent loan using the stolen customer funds as collateral.

In other words, all customer funds in the United States are now the legal property of JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, BNYM, or whichever megabank is the counterparty on the loans the FCM or depository institution takes out in order to fund its mega-levered proprietary in-house trading desks.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-15   10:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1932. To: mcgowanjm (#1931)

Sounds like the fix is in.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-08-15   10:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1933. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Greenland ice melt record.

Breaks record 4 weeks early.

At this rate, another 'no winter' and summer repeat and we're talking ice free arctic in 2013.

MSM: ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-16   8:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1934. To: Fred Mertz (#1932)

Sounds like the fix is in.

As we live in the most complex society in history.

Where everyone has to do their part specifically, simultaneously.

And Rex Lex for the Top 1%.

From Mark Grant, author of Out of the Box

The Disease Is Incurable

“I can get no remedy against this consumption of the purse: Borrowing only lingers and lingers it out, But the disease is incurable”

-William Shakespeare, Henry IV

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-16   9:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1935. To: A K A Stone (#0)

USSA military at work:

"Russian sub has been in the gulf Since June never detected on sonar systems,satellite's nor USAF or NAVY ....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-16   10:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1936. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#5. To: Robin (#4)

Good Luck, UK, with that entering the Ecuador Embassy.

IS it the Falklands or the Malvinas?

You really want to find out?

;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-16 10:38:10 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-16   10:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1937. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#654. To: Robin, All (#0)

Pinochet had women raped by dogs and Britain wouldn’t extradite him 2012 August 16 by Ian Welsh

Yes, he did.

So I don’t want to hear anything from Britain about how important extradition is to them or how important rape accusations are.

www.ianwelsh.net/pinochet...+IanWelsh+%28Ian+Welsh%29

www.thecrimson.com/articl...pinochet-we-were-peeling/

For women, it was an especially violent experience. The commission reports that nearly every female prisoner was the victim of repeated rape. The perpetration of this crime took many forms, from military men raping women themselves to the use of foreign objects on victims. Numerous women (and men) report spiders or live rats being implanted into their orifices. One woman wrote, “I was raped and sexually assaulted with trained dogs and with live rats. They forced me to have sex with my father and brother who were also detained. I also had to listen to my father and brother being tortured.” Her experiences were mirrored by those of many other women who told their stories to the commission.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-17 8:04:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #655. To: nolu chan (#653)

Akula

Russian Ministry of Defense.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-17 8:05:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #656. To: Robin, All (#654)

two helicopters shot down shawaliqot district kandahar news

7 Americans among dead in crash of US military helicopter caught in ... www.foxnews.com/.../11-ki...east-3-us-troops-in-afg...

– Seven American troops, 2 of which were Navy SEALs, and four ... Fox News - Fair & Balanced 8D...

Taliban spokesman Qari Yousef Ahmadi said insurgent fighters struck the helicopter in Kandahar province on Thursday morning. ... It said the helicopter was shot down in Shah Wali Kot district, a rural area ...

What I want to know is how fox found out, since the Taliban site has been offline since Tuesday.....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-17 8:07:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-17   8:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1938. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#12. To: nolu chan (#8)

First, nolu.

Remember that when Turkey lays claim to the Tomb of it's ruler in Syria...;}

Second, the verbiage.

An ambassador is a hostage.

All the above tries to clarify w/o mentioning the word.

The Ecuadorians have hostages as well. Plus a lot more oil.

AND the backing of South AMerica which has no Lost Love for former Empires that did nothing to help liberate former Colonies just like Ecuador.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-17 8:58:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #13. To: Robin (#7)

I do not believe it is a question of whether they are capable of doing it, but the repercussions that would follow diplomatically for all embassies, not just those of the UK. States that support such a UK action could risk the rest of the world determining that they had waived the sanctity of their own embassies.

It could create quite an international diplomatic mess.

The UK wants to turn back the clock to Drake, the First QE, and the Magna Carta?

Go right ahead with that Pandora's Box.

And for what?

That's what alot of Brit 'Subjects' are asking right now about alot of USSA cowtowing....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-17 9:01:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #14. To: All (#13)

And noting this is a Front and Center News Item by the Fact that not

ONE USSA MSM is covering it.....Nothing...the Truth Replaced By Silence.

A BTW....see Sentinel Corzine Rex Lex for ANother TRS story....;}

Imperial Affront: Ecuador Will Face US Wrath for Asylum Decision Chris Floyd

August 16, 2012

[UPDATED BELOW]

It is apparent that the nation of Ecuador will now be in the frame for what American foreign policy elites like to call, in their dainty and delicate language, "the path of action." Ecuador granted political asylum to Julian Assange on Thursday for one reason only: the very real possibility that he would be "rendered" to the United States for condign punishment, including the possibility of execution.

www.chris-floyd.com/compo...-for-asylum-decision.html

And TWO USSA helos shot down in Shawalikot District.

11 USSans in one.

33 Chinook the other. All dead.

Not a word from the USSA MSM.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-17 9:06:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #15. To: All (#14)

latino.foxnews.com/latino...o-transport-amazon-crude/

The Ecuadorian minister estimated the production potential of the oil fields to be auctioned off in that round at 35,000 barrels per day. He said exploration studies to be carried out after the auction would likely cause reserves in that region - currently estimated at 100 million barrels - to rise to between 800 million and 1.5 billion barrels.

Under that scenario, production in that zone could amount to between 400,000 bpd and 500,000 bpd, Pastor said. A conduit extending approximately 100 kilometers (62 miles) will be built to link the fields in Ecuador's southern Amazon region to the North Peruvian Pipeline, which runs to the Bayovar port in northern Peru. Pastor estimated the cost of the conduit at $300 million.

The North Peruvian Pipeline currently transports between 200,000-250,000 barrels of crude per day, roughly half its maximum capacity. Most of Ecuador's oil comes from the northern part of its Amazon region, where 500,000 bpd are extracted and transported via the SOTE and OCP pipelines. Oil is Ecuador's main export product and also a key source of government revenue.

EFE Read more: latino.foxnews.com/latino...azon-crude/#ixzz23oQN8TY8

Is it the Sandwich/Falklands or the Malvinas...I get confused.....LMFAO....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-17 10:08:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #16. To: All (#15)

Unless and until the USSA is stopped/stops itself, the US/Israel/UK will eventually and sooner be at war with the world.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-17 10:09:57 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-17   10:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1939. To: A K A Stone (#0)

HEY the USSA and Israel and the UK and Al qaeda in Libya/Syria are just alike and Bestest of All buddies now....;}

Israeli DM Declares Public Opposition to War on Iran Doesn’t Matter

The Israeli cabinet's case for war on Iran defies reason by John Glaser, August 16, 2012

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In response to a flurry of protests and civilian statements opposing an Israeli war on Iran, Defense Minister Ehud Barak struck back, dismissing the protests as irrelevant and declaring it the government’s business alone.

Apparently trying to showcase his appreciation for democracy, Barak said “The prime minister, defense minister and foreign minister have the authority…and the decision will be made as necessary by the government of Israel. That’s how it is and how it needs to be — not a group of civilians or even newspaper editorials.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-17   10:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1940. To: All (#1939)

Started at the Valero Refinery outside LaPlace....;}

According to Fox News, a second person “exited the trailer with an assault weapon and ‘ambushed’ [the officers] with an assault weapon.” Louisiana State Police have since taken over the investigation after the deaths of the two Sheriff’s deputies, and State Trooper Evan Hallel describes the current investigation:

“Air support and local law enforcement combined with us… We got feet on the ground and people in the woods. We’re trying to gather all the information that we could at this time.”

One other officer shot on the scene underwent surgery to treat the injuries sustained in the trailer park ambush, and a further two have been hospitalized after the shooting. Five people have been taken into custody in connection with the shooting deaths of the two Louisiana Sheriff’s deputies, and a local school has been closed for the day, though police say there is no threat to public safety.

Read more at www.inquisitr.com/303641/...bush/#QuiUDreqkodqV8jU.99

These fundies won't be caught alive.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-17   10:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1941. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#1936)

"Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.) Psalm 139:16

redleghunter  posted on  2012-08-17   16:25:45 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1942. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Want to see the USPS saved?

Postal Banking.

Think Advanced Paychecks....Wal Mart and AMEX would not be pleased....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-18   10:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1943. To: redleghunter (#1941)

Thanx for reading. Missed you.

Marry me.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-18   10:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1944. To: All (#1943)

On July 27, 2012, the National Association of Letter Carriers adopted a resolution at their National Convention in Minneapolis to investigate the establishment of a postal banking system. The resolution noted that expanding postal services and developing new sources of revenue are important components of any effort to save the public Post Office and preserve living-wage jobs; that many countries have a long and successful history of postal banking, including Germany, France, Italy, Japan, and the United States itself; and that postal banks could serve the 9 million people who don’t have a bank account and the 21 million who use usurious check cashers, giving low-income people access to a safe banking system. “A USPS bank would offer a ‘public option’ for banking,” concluded the resolution, “providing basic checking and savings – and no complex financial wheeling and dealing.”

What is bankrupting the USPS is not that it is inefficient. It has been self-funded throughout its history. But in 2006, Congress required it to prefund postal retiree health benefits for 75 years into the future, an onerous burden no other public or private company is required to carry.

http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/postoffice.php

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-18   10:09:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1945. To: All (#1944)

© by Paul Craig Roberts   ----   [Excerpts]   Let’s be clear, Assange is not a fugitive from justice. He has not been charged with any crime in any country. He has not raped any women. There are no indictments pending in any court, and as no charges have been brought against him, there is no validity to the Swedish extradition request.   It is not normal for people to be extradited for questioning, especially when, as in Assange’s case, he expressed his complete cooperation with being questioned a second time by Swedish officials in London.   What is this all about? First, according to news reports, Assange was picked up by two celebrity-hunting Swedish women who took him home to their beds.   Later for reasons unknown, one complained that he had not used a condom, and the other complained that she had offered one helping, but he had taken two.   A Swedish prosecutor looked into the case, found that there was nothing to it, and dismissed the case.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-18   10:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1946. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Who would the prophet jesus hate more:

gays

or

the people who invaded IRaq.....;}

August 18, 2012

Getting ill - don't do it in Iraq. The Iraqi physicians that once were welcomed all over the world for their knowledge and skills are no longer available. Either they left the country and did not return, or they have retired. And they are badly missed: healthcare in today's Iraq is a disaster.

Electricity in Iraq is a disaster.

Letter from John Yoo to Alberto Gonzales DATE: August 1, 2002 SUBJECT: N/A AUTHOR: John Yoo, Deputy Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel 
John Yoo writes to White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales warning of potential threats of international prosecution regarding the administration’s interrogation policies. Yoo notes that "Interrogations of al Qaeda members … cannot constitute a war crime" because of the Presidential determination that Geneva’s protections do not apply.

Memo from Jay Bybee to the CIA DATE: August 1, 2002 SUBJECT: Memorandum for [REDACTED] Interrogation of [REDACTED] AUTHOR: Jay Bybee, Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel 
Written by the Office of Legal Counsel’s Jay Bybee and sent to the Central Intelligence Agency, this heavily redacted document was released to the ACLU in 2008. It details "advising the CIA regarding interrogation methods it may use against al Qaeda members," and in one un-redacted portion, argues that "to violate the statute, an individual must have the specific intent to inflict severe pain or suffering. Based on the information you have provided us, we believe those carrying out these procedures would not have the specific intent to inflict severe pain or suffering."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-19   8:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1947. To: redleghunter (#1941) (Edited)

You think the invasion of Iraq and the War of Terror which has reduced America to a Kleptocracy was good.

What more do I need to say.

That Texas names it's airports after the bush crime family.....;}

If that's your religion, I want no part of it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-19   8:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1948. To: All (#1947)

The existence of high-jackers, whether these or others, is confirmed by telephone calls made by several passengers to members of their families. Unfortunately, these conversations are known to us only by hearsay and have not been published, even in the case of those that were recorded. Thus, it has been impossible to verify that they were actually made from a particular cell phone of from a telephone on board. Here, too, we are asked to take the FBI at its word. Further, it was not indispensable to have high-jackers to carry out the attacks. The Global Hawk technology, developed by the Air Force, makes it possible to take control of a commercial airliner regardless of the intentions of its pilot(s) and to direct it by remote control.

There remains the case of Osama bn Laden. If it is generally admitted that he was a CIA agent or collaborator during the war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, the current version of events claims that he turned coat and became public enemy number one of the United States. This story does not bear up under scrutiny either. The French daily le Figaro revealed that last July, Osmam bn Laden was a patient at the American hospital in Dubai, where he was visited by the head of CIA regional office. CBS television in the United States has revealed that, on September 10, Osama bn Laden was undergoing dialysis at the Rawalpindi military hospital, under the protection of the Pakistani army. And the renown French journalist Michel Peyrard, who was a prisoner of the Taliban, has recounted how, last November, Osama bn Laden was living openly in Jalalabad while the United States was bombing other regions of the country. It is difficult to believe that the greatest army in the world, come to Afghanistan to arrest him, was unable to do so, while the mollah Omar was able to escape from United States military force on a moped.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-19   8:47:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1949. To: All (#1948)

Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:7PM GMT 15 The US, the British, the French and indeed the Israelis are now apoplectic.” American author Dr. Webster Griffin Tarpley An American author and historian says the United States, the Israeli regime, France and the UK are “apoplectic” due to the failure of their anti-Syria plots, Press TV reports.

“The US, the British, the French and indeed the Israelis are now apoplectic,” said Dr. Webster Griffin Tarpley in an interview with Press TV on Friday.

“That’s what you see with Fabius. I would call attention to the language he decided when he says the Syrian regime should be smashed fast,” Tarpley added, referring to recent remarks by French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-19   8:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1950. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Hey zioFundies!

Your Empire for jesus is falling apart....;}

#668. To: All (#667)

# INSIGHT-Workers to warriors: union war batters S.Africa mines Reuters‎ - 1 hour ago

Turf war for members was backdrop to Lonmin mine killings* Worker demands show popular anger over poverty, services* Platinum sector struggles with soaring costs, weak demand* Fears ... Top News · India Insight · World ...

Reuters is now just another Hack site. Like the BBC.

The end is near.

Bet Impala is never mentioned in that article.

And 'weak demand'?

So as Platinum has the Very Same chart formation as Gold, is Gold And silver suffering from 'weak demand' as well?

LMFAO

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-19 9:13:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #669. To: All (#0)

Friday, August 17, 2012 The Americas against the Anglosphere Excellent news! According to SkyNews,

The Organisation of American States (OAS) has called a meeting of foreign ministers for August 24 to discuss the stand-off sparked when Ecuador granted asylum to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

Twenty-three countries voted on Friday for the resolution proposed by Ecuador to convene the meeting at its Washington headquarters to discuss Quito's stand-off with Britain over Assange. The US, Canada and Trinidad and Tobago voted no.

We couldn;'t get Honduras on board?

WTF is the point of having colonies?.....8D

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-19 9:50:50 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-19   9:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1951. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Empire for Jesus...kinda like the Caliphate for Al Qaeda....I like that....;}

Re: Politics and Doomcasting...

Post Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:41 am by mcgowanjm What kills Empire is not the predicted....but the Rosa Parks events....

Twenty-three countries voted on Friday for the resolution proposed by Ecuador to convene the meeting at its Washington headquarters to discuss Quito's stand-off with Britain over Assange. The US, Canada and Trinidad and Tobago voted no.

The vote was taken at emergency talks to discuss the Assange case (...) The US envoy to the OAS, Carmen Lomellin, said a meeting of its foreign ministers 'would be unhelpful and harmful to the OAS's reputation as an institution'.

Furthermore, Lenta.ru reports that Ecuador is also calling for an extraordinary meeting of the Union of South American Nations (UNASUR) to discuss the Assange case.

It seems that the Anglosphere is now isolated from, and on a collision course with, the rest of the Americas. Good!

(I can't believe that even Colombia voted against the USA... amazing, no?) Posted by VINEYARDSAKER

And

It is yet another Civilized Power, with its banner of the Prince of Peace in one hand and its loot-basket and its butcher-knife in the other.

— Mark Twain, To the Person Sitting in Darkness, 1901, describing the United States playing the European-style imperialist game in the Philippines.

For globalism to work, America can’t be afraid to act like the almighty superpower that it is.…The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist—McDonald’s cannot flourish without McDonnell Douglas, the designer of the F-15. And the hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley’s technologies is called the United States Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps.

— Thomas Friedman, What the World Needs Now, New York Times, March 28, 1999. Quoted from Backing Up Globalization with Military Might

BBC News

1. Ousted ANC leader tells South African miners police were wrong to shoot them Detroit Free Press‎ - 9 hours ago

Miners and their families welcomed expelled politician Julius Malema on Saturday as he told the thousands who gathered at the site where 34 miners were killed last ... Jeff Wierenga was 25 years old in 1982 when he got the news few ... ANC members had shares in the Lonmin platinum mine and implied ...

OOoops.... :shock:

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mcgowanjm

Post Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:54 am by mcgowanjm Re: Politics and Doomcasting...

Post Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:54 am by mcgowanjm Three take aways from this article:

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Tho ... e_12294646

Police captain Dennis Adrio said police units would remain at the mine for as long as necessary. Adrio declined to discuss specifics regarding the police's plans, though it appeared late yesterday afternoon that officers would largely stay away from the communities and watch from a distance. Adrio said officers were aware of the dead body near where the miners had gathered yesterday and that they would attempt to recover it.

"Our objective is to civilise the situation on the ground," the captain said. "The second objective is to find who killed our two officers and those who killed the other dead."

Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Tho ... z240A49fYQ

What got my attn was that the Jamaican paper was highlighted by google with the 'latest' info on the Platinum mines.

You know, a vast majority black paper to give you the 'what's really happening' aspect.

Except that the # killed is '10'. One less than what the 'original story line had. Do ALL USSan MSM's automatically knock down the initial number?

Which is now up to 34 btw.... :twisted:

Then, the Banner Ad on the paper's site.

50 YEARS of Independence :!:

Now what happened 50 years ago....1962...the Brit's Empire is Finally shuttered as the Cuban Missile Crisis Hots Up..... :twisted:

And Jamaica's an OAS member voting against it's 'former' Empire(s).

How convoluted, yet, timely.

2012 will be remembered as the time the USSA's colonies began to break away.

<<

mcgowanjm

Post Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:00 am by mcgowanjm Re: Politics and Doomcasting...

Post Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:00 am by mcgowanjm And back to Assange/Ecuador/Embassy.

Just like Rosa Parks, what cause the revolution was that she was just too tired to walk any further....and so sitting down sparked the revolution.....how easy is that..... :twisted:

Commentary: Even though I had little doubt that Ecuador would grant asylum to Assange, it was really heart-warming for me to listen to the absolutely beautiful statement of Foreign Minister Ricardo Patiño, in particular after learning of the mind-boggling arrogance of the Brits who dared to cross a line very few, if any, governments ever dared cross: threaten to violate the sovereignty of an embassy (the only other example I can think of is the USAF bombing the PRC embassy in Belgrade - which everybody forgot, of course).

Does anybody remember that even the Iranian revolutionary government did not dare to openly say that it had seized the US embassy in Tehran, but that it hid behind a student movement instead? Yes, I know, this was a *very* thin fig-leaf for a regime which right in the wake of the Islamic revolution was rather over the top in most of its actions at the time. But even that regime did not have the arrogance to openly declare that it had violated one of the most basic rules of civilized behavior: one does not directly violate the diplomatic immunity of an official embassy.

The Brits just fcuked up Big Time... :twisted:

A slave doing what it thinks it's Master would have wanted....ANOTHER underrated cause of Empire collapse...... :twisted: :roll: :shock: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-19   10:36:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1952. To: All (#1951)

[quote="Widgeon"]Methylene Chloride. They've been dumping Methylene Chloride into these cavers. WTF else is down there. I guess a pre-requisite for being "in charge" is having a demonstrated ability to not give two fucks about any future generations.[/quote]

Best quote that I can't find now....

Dealing with the 'whistleblowers' on the Klamath Basin Dams that are about to come down.

'It will take 5 000 years to undo the damage caused by these dams. Since the damage is already done, we might as well go ahead and get the immediate benefits.'

Couldn't have put Humanity's MEME better if I tried.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-19   11:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1953. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Only weeks away now.

The Empire reaches and falters.....

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

"19 August 2012 John Ralston Saul: The Collapse of Globalism

"The transnational corporations and the money markets have declared the era of human-designed regulations over. Now the market must reign. Because few people in the business community are paid to think about phrases such as 'western civilization,' they don't seem to realize that they are proposing the arbitrary denial of 2,500 years of human experience...

Ever since the democratic systems permitted their various courts to give corporations the status of persons, the individual as citizen has been on the defensive. How could it be otherwise? If you are a person before the law and Exxon or Ford is also a person, it is clear that the concept of democratic legitimacy lying with the individual has been mortally wounded..."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-20   7:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1954. To: A K A Stone (#0)

* Print * Permalink * RSS

Andrew Freedman By Andrew Freedman

In May, the U.S. Agriculture Department predicted a record corn yield after farmers planted the largest area of corn and soybeans since 1937. Three months later, after a searing drought engulfed a wide swath of the continental U.S., those crops lie in ruin.

Despite all of the resources at forecasters’ disposal, the worst drought to strike the U.S. in nearly 50 years came on largely without warning across the fields of the Midwest and High Plains during late spring and early summer. Between May 1 and July 24, the drought footprint in the lower 48 states expanded from an already high 38 percent to a devastating 64 percent, engulfing more than a dozen states in the process, including nearly the entire corn and soybean growing region. Judging by past droughts, the drought of 2012 will likely cost the U.S. somewhere on the order of tens of billions of dollars."

www.climatecentral.org/ne...aws-in-forecasting-14823/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-20   13:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1955. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#676. To: All (#0)

Republicans rape themselves.

will they now abort themselves.

And will they be legitimate Republicans once they do.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......8D

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-20 21:39:10 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-20   21:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1956. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.economic-undertow.com...s/2012/08/CBL-0818121.png

To sum up: emissions have dropped in the U.S., thanks to a form of energy that’s ultimately not much cleaner than coal, and which has stalled conversion to truly clean energy. Meanwhile, worldwide emissions are still growing, putting CO2 into the atmosphere as though it were some sort of global Roach Motel where molecules can check in, but they can’t check out.

This may make some experts optimistic. It doesn’t do a lot for me.

www.climatecentral.org/bl...ead-the-fine-print-14832/

Google CO2 AP

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-21   7:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1957. To: A K A Stone (#0)

neven1.typepad.com/

There are several scientific organisations that keep an eye on the Arctic sea ice cover and put out graphs to inform us of the amount of ice that is left. You can see most, if not all, of them on the ASI Graphs webpage. I expect the record on most of these graphs to be broken in weeks to come. After Uni Bremen sea ice extent and Arctic ROOS sea ice area another big domino has fallen with Cryosphere Today sea ice area:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-21   9:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1958. To: mcgowanjm (#1957)

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-08-21   10:58:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1959. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Just what the Zionists that are running and ruining this nation want and need, another empty-headed, no questions asked full blown supporter of Apartheid Israel’s malevolent policies.

Todd Akin’s rape remark has GOP fretting

BTW, Todd old boy, just what in the hell is ‘legitimate rape?’ Is that what happens anytime a rep from AIPAC comes into your office and you get down on your hands and knees?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-22   8:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1960. To: mininggold (#1958)

The AP, USAToday and the WSJ have yet to connect this Heat Wave/Drought to Climate Change.

Not one mention.

STUDY: TV Media Ignore Climate Change In Coverage Of Record ... mediamatters.org/research....climate-change.../189366

6 days ago – Climate Change Largely Absent From Media Reports On Extreme Heat ... But the Associated Press, the Los Angeles Times, and USA Today mentioned it ... Only 8% Of Coverage Pointed Out That Human Activities Are Driving ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-22   8:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1961. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Why would Akin leave the GOP.

What's the difference?

" It was bad enough that Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin made his comments on "legitimate rape" in the first place. The comments are offensive in the cruelest way. It was worse from Romney's perspective that his vice presidential candidate has a close affiliation with Akin on a bill before the House that gives full rights of personhood to eggs upon fertilization (Turn out the lights, the party's over) Now this!

Mr. Akin’s comments, made in an interview Sunday with a St. Louis television station, were not the only factor propelling abortion prominently into the national political dialogue. Meeting in Tampa, Fla., ahead of next week’s National Republican Convention, the party’s platform committee on Tuesday adopted a policy statement calling for a ban on abortion without an exception for rape. The Democratic National Committee immediately labeled that “the Akin Plank” as they tried to create a gender gap in both the presidential and Congressional races. Akin Says He Is Staying in Senate Race, Defying G.O.P., New York Times, August 21"

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-22   10:26:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1962. To: mcgowanjm (#1961)

Why would Akin leave the GOP.

What's the difference?

Ain't that the truth. He's their poster boy.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-08-22   10:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1963. To: mininggold (#1962)

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-22   10:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1964. To: A K A Stone (#0)

You don't get it.

And the POTUS will have about 45 sec to make the call....;)

What is happening to the Empire is, ironically, a process I would call of "Israelization": a dynamic in which it is rather obvious that the world's elites dare not speak against it, but the rest of the planet hates and despises it. We can think of "Israelization" as the inevitable backlash resulting from a systematic disregard for international law combined with an equally systematic use of violence or threat thereof (which is, of course, a form of violence in itself).

Of course, the imperial rulers are far too ignorant of history, to full of hubris and racist arrogance and, frankly, too stupid to realize how dangerous this process is for them. They will "get it" only by the time it is way too late to stop it. "

vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-25   9:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1965. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Living in the Conspiracy "Living in the Middle Ages"

"Todd Akin: The man who said too much"

"'Rape can't cause pregnancy': A brief history of Todd Akin's bogus theory"

Akin was surprised by the reaction, as he naturally assumed the people he was talking to would see nothing controversial in what he was saying. His mistake was that this type of comment is supposed to be limited to discussions with the like-minded, and not on a television interview that anybody can see. Being a Republican is like being a habitual liar: it is damn hard to keep your stories straight.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-25   9:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1966. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)

I joined LP right before

KAtrina.

Happy Anniversary!!!!!!!

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-27   7:18:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1967. To: All (#1966)

* Re: Isaac Forecast Lounge

Less Praying, More Generators, Water, Boats....

See any similarities?

www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/KATRINA_graphics.shtml

Friday, August 26, 2005

At 1:00 AM EDT, maximum sustained winds had decreased to 70 mph (110 km/h) and Katrina was again downgraded to a tropical storm. At 5:00 AM EDT, the eye of Hurricane Katrina was located just offshore of southwestern Florida over the Gulf of Mexico about 50 miles (80 km) north-northeast of Key West, Florida. Maximum sustained winds had again increased to 75 mph (121 km/h) and Katrina was upgraded again to a Category 1 hurricane.

By 8:00 AM CDT (1300 UTC), in New Orleans, water was seen rising on both sides of the Industrial Canal. At approximately 8:14 AM CDT (1314 UTC), the New Orleans office of the National Weather Service issued a Flash Flood Warning for Orleans Parish and St Bernard Parish, citing a levee breach at the Industrial Canal. The National Weather Service predicted three to eight feet of water and advised people in the warning area to "move to higher ground immediately."[14] By 9:00 AM CDT (2100 UTC), there was 6–8 feet of water in the Lower Ninth Ward.[15][16]

Many of the new ground based wind measurements were published on the New Orleans National Weather Service web site on Friday, October 7, in their post-storm report on Katrina. The highest sustained winds measured at any ground-based site were 90 mph on Lake Pontchartrain. The highest gust measured on the ground was 135 mph in Poplarville, MS. Many wind measurement sites failed during the storm, so we will have to rely on aircraft and Doppler radar to arrive at the true wind speeds of Katrina at landfall.

Here's a few highlights of the highest winds measured at the ground during Katrina, before instrument failure:

New Orleans Lakefront Airport: sustained winds of 69 mph, gusting to 86 mph.

Biloxi's Keesler Air Force Base: sustained winds of 54 mph, gusting to 90 mph.

Gulfport airport: 46 mph, gusting to 58 mph.

Lake Ponchartrain mid-lake buoy: 90 mph, gusting to 114 mph.

Many of us heard that Category 5 winds were measured by the National Weather Service in Katrina. These rumors were aired as fact by television stations and other media outlets during the storm. However, as the post-storm report above outlines, these were just rumors, and no such winds were measured. If you listened to NPR last night, you also might have heard the story of how television stations in Baton Rouge were reporting a huge crime wave in Baton Rouge after the hurricane, and that an armed gang had even taken over the Mayor's office. These reports, later found out to be completely untrue, led to four-hour waits to buy guns at local gun stores in Baton Rouge. According to NPR, there was no increase in crime in Baton Rouge after the hurricane. The media, at times, did a poor job in separting fact from fiction during the storm, and there were in reality no sustatined winds above Category 1 measured on the ground during Katrina. Obviously, a demotion of Katrina to Category 3 status would have political consequences.

classic.wunderground.com/...comment.html?entrynum=182

All we need are shots of Cantore, the Angel of Doom, on the River Walk, with oblivious tourists walking along Jackson Square.

And the $15 Billiion figure being thrown around is just about as accurate as the Amount of $$$ that got to Haiti from their Earthquake relief fund.

O and the ContraFlow?

That's where the Inbound Lanes are reserved for Emergency Personnel, nothing more.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-27   7:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1968. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Friday, August 26, 2005

At 1:00 AM EDT, maximum sustained winds had decreased to 70 mph (110 km/h) and Katrina was again downgraded to a tropical storm. At 5:00 AM EDT, the eye of Hurricane Katrina was located just offshore of southwestern Florida over the Gulf of Mexico about 50 miles (80 km) north-northeast of Key West, Florida. Maximum sustained winds had again increased to 75 mph (121 km/h) and Katrina was upgraded again to a Category 1 hurricane.

Sound familiar?....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-27   7:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1969. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Re: Isaac Forecast Lounge [Re: TXEB] #93764 - Mon Aug 27 2012 08:26 AM E

We're about to find out via rapid intensification or not,

Quote:

Hurricane forecast models (the same ones that were used to predict Katrina’s path) indicate a tendency for more intense (but not overall more frequent) hurricanes when they are run for climate change scenarios (Fig. 1).

Figure 1. Model Simulation of Trend in Hurricanes (from Knutson et al, 2004)

In the particular simulation shown above, the frequency of the strongest (category 5) hurricanes roughly triples in the anthropogenic climate change scenario relative to the control. This suggests that hurricanes may indeed become more destructive (1) as tropical SSTs warm due to anthropogenic impacts.

http://www.realclimate.org/index...canes-and-global-warming/

As far as I can tell, Katrina and Isaac are almost Identical at this point.

corrections Always welcomed.

The NHC Still has very little in the way of Intensity predictions.

and the only thing that's changed in NO, is that it's 7 inches lower in elevation and the GOM is at least 3 inches higher.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-27   8:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1970. To: A K A Stone (#0)

One more difference.

The Superdome and Airpirt will be guarded against people seeking shelter.....8D

Why would it be any other way?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-27   8:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1971. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Good Morning to All.

The NO Mayor Landrieu said on NBC last nite that if you haven't left by 11 PM, then it's too late and Shelter in Place.

I don't know why he said that.

But at least a 1/4 million will now be living below sea level.

That's an eye. And according to Shortwave the Circulation Symmetry looks perfect.

www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMWF_0z/ecmwfloop.html

Dvorak:

North Half fills in and it's a Cat 2 + at landfall.

Watching for reduced forward speed now.

www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/.../09L/flash-swir-long.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-28   7:08:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1972. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#4. To: Skip Intro, nolu chan, all (#3)

Arkansas had a drought.

We needed water.

That NO has to go thru this for us to get it is just the way the planet works.

This is a watershed moment....8D

From an LSU sports site:

GhostofJackson Tulane Fan Member since Nov 2009 1792 posts Online

re: Hurricane Isaac Tracking Thread (Updated...80mph, 970mb at 6am CT) (Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:15 a.m. to Smalls)

quote: This is a beast.

Yeah I'd like to find all the guys making fun of this thing yesterday and have them come clean up the damage in this area.

They were laughing about playing golf yesterday......

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-29 7:42:27 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-29   7:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1973. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I post some other sites.

Right now Isaac's not even registering.

As Obama will be defined by Isaac.

expect that the WH is getting the Bad News now with an 8 hour news embargo or as long as they can hold it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-29   8:37:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1974. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Obama will be speaking live to the Nation today.

The Only question is when.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-29   8:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1975. To: All (#1974)

e

The Good News:

This is the First Beneficial Event to happen in the MS River Estuary since the USSAbpEcocide....;}

New Orleans is your future.

the Worst possible scenario unfolding.

radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php

Guy Laigast, director of the parish's emergency preparedness, says that an 18-mile stretch of the parish east bank back levees might be overtopped from Braithwaite to White Ditch and that some points might be seeing 110 miles per hour winds. There are many varying reports of wind speeds, generally ranging between 80 and 110 miles per hour. "The devastation of my house is worse than Katrina aand the flooding in Woodlawn is worse than Katrina, so those things tell me that the damage on the east bank is worse than Katrina," Nungesser said this morning.

Probably at about 8 o clock tonight

Wow, amazing projections were off by nearly 12 hours, this thing is just sitting there

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-29   8:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1976. To: A K A Stone (#0)

WWL TV:

Rescues in Plaq Parish using facebook while in the boat to rescue folks.

As bad or worse than Katrina.

"We can not believe how fast the water rose."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-29   9:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1977. To: A K A Stone (#0)

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Post Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:55 am by mcgowanjm Re: PEAK OIL, TOTAL COLLAPSE, AND THE ROAD TO THE OLDUVAI

Post Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:55 am by mcgowanjm A,lot of this post was deleted.

Inappropriate the Mod said... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :roll: :? 8-)

Re: Isaac Forecast Lounge [Re: ralphfl] #93762 - Mon Aug 27 2012 07:14 AM Edit post Edit Reply to this post Reply Reply to this post Quote Quick Reply Quick Reply

Less Praying, More Generators, Water, Boats....

See any similarities?

www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/KA ... hics.shtml

Friday, August 26, 2005

By 8:00 AM CDT (1300 UTC), in New Orleans, water was seen rising on both sides of the Industrial Canal. At approximately 8:14 AM CDT (1314 UTC), the New Orleans office of the National Weather Service issued a Flash Flood Warning for Orleans Parish and St Bernard Parish, citing a levee breach at the Industrial Canal. The National Weather Service predicted three to eight feet of water and advised people in the warning area to "move to higher ground immediately."[14] By 9:00 AM CDT (2100 UTC), there was 6–8 feet of water in the Lower Ninth Ward.[15][16]

Many of the new ground based wind measurements were published on the New Orleans National Weather Service web site on Friday, October 7, in their post-storm report on Katrina. The highest sustained winds measured at any ground-based site were 90 mph on Lake Pontchartrain. The highest gust measured on the ground was 135 mph in Poplarville, MS. Many wind measurement sites failed during the storm, so we will have to rely on aircraft and Doppler radar to arrive at the true wind speeds of Katrina at landfall.

Here's a few highlights of the highest winds measured at the ground during Katrina, before instrument failure:

New Orleans Lakefront Airport: sustained winds of 69 mph, gusting to 86 mph.

Biloxi's Keesler Air Force Base: sustained winds of 54 mph, gusting to 90 mph.

Gulfport airport: 46 mph, gusting to 58 mph.

Lake Ponchartrain mid-lake buoy: 90 mph, gusting to 114 mph.

Many of us heard that Category 5 winds were measured by the National Weather Service in Katrina. These rumors were aired as fact by television stations and other media outlets during the storm. However, as the post-storm report above outlines, these were just rumors, and no such winds were measured. If you listened to NPR last night, you also might have heard the story of how television stations in Baton Rouge were reporting a huge crime wave in Baton Rouge after the hurricane, and that an armed gang had even taken over the Mayor's office. These reports, later found out to be completely untrue, led to four-hour waits to buy guns at local gun stores in Baton Rouge. According to NPR, there was no increase in crime in Baton Rouge after the hurricane. The media, at times, did a poor job in separting fact from fiction during the storm, and there were in reality no sustatined winds above Category 1 measured on the ground during Katrina. Obviously, a demotion of Katrina to Category 3 status would have political consequences.

classic.wunderground.com/blog/Je ... trynum=182

(Off-topic material removed - this really belongs in the Hurricane History Forum.)

Edited by Ed Dunham (Mon Aug 27 2012 04:25 PM)

Cantore Canal St Downtown NO:

Sustained winds: 46 mph.

Gusts common: 93 mph.

Isaac still 60 miles SSW.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-29   10:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1978. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Cantore Canal St Downtown NO:

Sustained winds: 46 mph.

Gusts common: 93 mph.

Isaac still 60 miles SSW.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-29 10:30:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #692. To: All (#0)

Isaac's here.

Right over the Most Extensive Drought in AR.

Amazing.

All the way from Africa.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-08-31 9:05:09 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-31   9:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1979. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"We dodged a bullet."

No. No, we did not. We took the bullet. Shattered the femur.

Gangrene setting in.

"About half of Louisiana was without power on Aug. 30 as Tropical Storm Isaac moved inland.

The Public Service Commission said 903,000 homes and businesses around the state — about 47 percent of all customers — were without power.

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Entergy says that included about 686,000 of its customers. Another 87,000 were customers of Cleco Corp.

Nearly all customers were without power in Plaquemines, St. Bernard and St. John the Baptist parishes, while at least three-quarters of homes and businesses had power outages in Iberville, East Feliciana, Jefferson, Lafourche, Orleans, St. Charles, St. James, St. Tammany, Tangipahoa, Terrebonne and West Feliciana parishes."

The Good News is that Amerika can't here from those who don't have electricity...;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-09-01 9:01:59 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-01   9:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1980. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Read the USSA Version.

CBS:

Twin suicide Wardak,

Numerous Amerikan injuries.....

WRH:

Scores of American invaders killed in twin mortar attack; helicopter shot down Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Saturday, 14 Syawal 1433 Saturday, 01 September 2012 14:31

WARDAK, Sept. 01 - The first blast was conducted by Ahmad, a brave martyr-seeking Mujahid on foot hitting a US invaders military base in Syed Abad, Wardak on early Saturday morning which eliminated almost all of the security checks and barriers followed by a massive explosion from a truck bomb by another Mujahid that destroyed much of the base facility allowing Mujahideen to get into the base compound and

unleashed a face to face fighting with the American terrorist soldiers within the base, a Mujahideen’s official said.

Several dozens of the invading terrorists were killed and wounded in the resulting fighting, setting the base facility on fire and a number of the military vehicles and tanks were destroyed in the blast and fighting, whereas an attack helicopter among many hovering overhead which, in turn, were bombing and targeting Mujahideen combatants, got shot down by Mujahideen during the fight.

Meantime, enemy’s spying balloons were destroyed and the center of district got badly damaged as a result of the successful operation increasing the death and injury toll.

According the recent reports, more than 30 puppet soldiers were retrieved from beneath the rubble by the bulldozers and the dead and the wounded were being carried by about 30 ambulances, whereas the ambulance helicopters were busy carrying the dead and wounding.

According to the witnesses to the scene, more than 10 government buildings were unbelievingly flattened and became piles of rubble.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-09-01 21:31:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #697. To: All (#696)

Note to Imperial Defense Command:

To successfully prosecute a Colonial War, the First Item on the Agenda is to make sure the Insurgency in the Colony can't get their version of events out to the world as fast as you want to get yours.....

2: The Colonial War ain't over til the Insurgents say it is.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-09-01 21:37:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #698. To: All (#0)

Two Suicide Near NATO Base in Afghanistan Kill Over a Dozen The glaring failure that is the war in Afghanistan is being almost completely omitted from the political debate by John Glaser, September 01, 2012 Print This | Share This

Two suicide bombings in central Afghanistan carried out by the Taliban have killed at least nine civilians and four Afghan policemen, in the latest illustration of an unhindered insurgency and burgeoning chaos in America’s near-forgotten war zone.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-09-01 21:57:37 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-01   21:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1981. To: A K A Stone (#0)

" Faced with defeat on all fronts, Washington planners, nonetheless, continue to uphold the delusional dream of an indefinite US stay in Afghanistan. Imperial dreams die hard."

In lieu, then, of discussing Afghanistan and US militarism more broadly, the presidential campaign devolves into spectacle and triviality. Substance, where it is to be found, is limited to squabbles over who promises to cut the most from the already gutted American social safety net. The fact that the Pentagon appropriates over half the US budget (52 percent in 2011, according to the War Resisters League) in order to conduct campaigns of misery and terror abroad, leaving the hollow mantra of “shared sacrifice” in its wake at home, is beyond debate-beyond the pale. US militarism is simply an unquestionable pillar of the American way of life. Something the people of the world (from Vietnam to Afghanistan, from Iraq to Korea and beyond) have come to learn firsthand."

We're getting our ass handed to us.

And Clint Eastwood is our model.

Pack up the band...it's now all over.

Waiting for the False Flag that will project us into the Post 9/11 Shock Doctrine.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-02   7:56:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1982. To: A K A Stone (#0)

It's going to be 100 F today...

And tomorrow.

It will cool off to 97 by Wed.

No one has to tell me, I don't have to google to know this is a Record.......

It used to cost one barrel of oil to get about 100 barrels of oil out of the ground. These days one barrel only gets us 10 barrels back, and declining. And that means it's not cheap anymore.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   7:49:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1983. To: A K A Stone (#0)

So far, 48 NATO troops – including the three Australians killed on Wednesday – have died in 31 separate attacks. This month, during Ramadan, 11 US soldiers were killed in nine days. The high number represents 14 per cent of all combat fatalities this year and though it is still only August, the figure is already significantly higher than last year, when 31 troops died. The numbers are so high that some analysts claim they may represent the highest incidence of intentional friendly fire attacks in recorded military history...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   8:23:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1984. To: A K A Stone, Fred MErtz, All (#0)

When San Diego does this to you, you need to take the hint:

""Go ahead, nurse. Make my bed."

A man's got to know his limitations and Clint Eastwood's performance at the Republican National Convention earned him notices the likes of which he hasn't received since City Heat.

"Clint, my hero, is coming across as sad and pathetic. He didn't need to do this to himself. It's unworthy of him." - Roger Ebert

"That was the weirdest thing I've ever seen at a political convention in my entire life." - MSNBC's Rachel Maddow

"Tremendous!" - Academy Award-Winner, Jon Voight

Eastwood began his career talking to trees and now he's addressing a chair. It's like watching the dummy without Paul Winchell.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   9:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1985. To: mcgowanjm (#1984)

"Tremendous!" - Academy Award-Winner, Jon Voight

I like that review best.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-09-03   9:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1986. To: Fred Mertz (#1985)

"Tremendous!" - Academy Award-Winner, Jon Voight

I like that review best.

A twofer.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   9:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1987. To: mcgowanjm (#1984)

"That was the weirdest thing I've ever seen at a political convention in my entire life." - MSNBC's Rachel Maddow

Rachel Maddow. You are quoting a sex pervert.

I think she would look good with her head removed by a sharp sword.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-03   10:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1988. To: A K A Stone (#1987) (Edited)

Rachel Maddow. You are quoting a sex pervert.

I think she would look good with her head removed by a sharp sword.

YOu sound like Al Qaeda.

But then AQ's Now our bestest buddies, huh.

How do you square that?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   10:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1989. To: All (#1988)

And THIS is what I get replies to?

Not the Afghans.

Not Market Manipulation.

Not Climate Change. HEat Records still falling today.

Not Peak Oil.

But Clint Fucking Eastwood losing an arguement to a chair.

Election 2012 and the media: a vast rightwing conspiracy of stupid By Glenn Greenwald

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Paul Ryan's address to the RNC contained a number of notably dubious claims, yet CNN's Wolf Blitzer chiefly admired 'his beautiful family'. Photograph: Andrew Gombert/EPA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   10:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1990. To: All (#1989)

The GOP Campaign Motto:

Vote in November for Legitimate Rape.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   10:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1991. To: A K A Stone (#0)

In other words, conspiracy theories sometimes are fact. If opportunity, motive, and means are evident, don’t rule out conspiracy merely because you’ll be labeled a conspiracy theorist.

English philosopher Bertrand Russell put his own spin on the horrors of uncovering the truth via thought:

Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth, more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.

Small wonder, then, most refuse to think. Thinking is hard, so the majority of Americans prefer television instead. Swimming against a profoundly strong cultural current is nearly impossible, especially when the resulting discomfort threatens our own privilege. And conspiracy theories certainly threaten the ill-founded notion of American exceptionalism.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   10:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1992. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And speaking of Conspiracy.

CNN for some reason thought they need to talk about the Suicide Bombing against the US Consulate 'workers' this AM.

Maybe they shoulda just stayed quiet.

But then they've got So Much Shite they have to stay quiet about, that it just kinda overflowed their Toilet Bowl, so:

Mon Sep 3, 2012 6:17AM GMT

A bomb blast near the US Consulate in the city of Peshawar in northwestern Pakistan has killed at least two Americans, and has injured two others.

Since late 2009, there has been a surge in militant attacks in Pakistan and thousands more have been displaced by the wave of violence and militancy sweeping across the country.

Thousands of Pakistanis have lost their lives in bombings and other militant attacks since 2001, when Pakistan entered an alliance with the US in the so-called war on terrorism.

AO/HJL

www.presstv.ir/detail/201...killed-in-pakistan-blast/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   10:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1993. To: All (#1992)

It's the supreme propaganda orgy, devoted to aggressively reinforcing the claim to American exceptionalism: the belief that even when things look grim, America will forever be that special God-favored land of freedom, opportunity, and prosperity, and all citizens should therefore be deeply grateful – quietly and passively so – for the privilege of residing in such a land, no matter how wretched are their circumstances and how pervasive is the corruption.

It's what inculcates many Americans to believe that they enjoy vibrant political debate and stark democratic choice, even as so many of the policies that are most consequential and destructive for their lives – the "war on drugs", the supremacy of the covert national security and surveillance states, vast inequalities in the justice system, crony capitalism that rapidly bolsters the oligarchy that owns the political process – are steadfastly ignored because both parties on those matters have exactly the same position and serve the same interests.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   10:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1994. To: All (#1993)

And conspiracy theories certainly threaten the ill-founded notion of American exceptionalism.

False-flag terror attacks? Check.

American government agencies buying enough ammunition to kill every citizen five times? Check.

U.S. Supreme Court collaborating with the executive branch to increase corporate power? Check, since 1971 (at least).

Goldman Sachs defrauding its clients with the knowledge of the Securities and Exchange Commission? Check.

Civilian deaths from drones covered up? Check.

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is dead, though most Americans refuse to acknowledge that truth. But the former U.S. Marine arrested for patriotic posts on Facebook knows. After his relatively innocuous posts, he was placed in a Stalin-like mental ward. Displaying the “wrong” political view warrants the same treatment. Apparently questioning 9/11 — an obvious inside job, as anybody paying the slightest attention has known for years — makes one crazy. Or a terrorist. Or both. And if you think 9/11 wasn’t an inside job — the evidence for which is overwhelming and physically undeniable — then you believe in coincidence but not the Laws of Thermodynamics.

When will your silence be met with incarceration, then torture, then early death? These United States are well down the road of tyranny, regardless the mantra of the mainstream.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   10:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1995. To: All (#1994) (Edited)

It somehow manages simultaneously to be relentlessly insipid, yet genuinely destructive. As Blitzer and Burnett put it last night:

"So there he is, the Republican vice-presidential nominee and his beautiful family there. His mom is up there … He's a man who says I care deeply about every single word. I want to do a good job."

False Flag coming.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   10:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1996. To: All (#1995)

The two major parties pretend that so-called "entitlement" programs can be simultaneously reformed, improved, and abolished - that is, you can have your cake and eat it (with ice cream) at the same time you throw it in the garbage. Reality rejects this incoherent juggling act and proposes that Americans better just make other arrangements for old age, routine medical care, and daily bread. This implies cultural as much as economic transformation and it will occur emergently no matter what empty promises anyone makes. People who want to get food at regular intervals will have to find some way to make themselves useful to others. Medicine will return to the local clinic model and doctors will have to find another motivation for practice besides the acquisition of German automobiles.

Kunstler

Compare and contrast the platforms of the Republicans and Democrats with the Reality Party: The two major parties both propose that the colossal machine of everyday life in America can not only run indefinitely, but continue expanding, and include ever more member people who trade ever more schwag. All that is required, they say, is twiddling the settings of the machine, to get it back to running smoothly as it did in the good old days before the mystifying crash of 2008. They disagree slightly on which dials to twiddle. Reality knows we have entered along-term compressive economic contraction; that there is no way we can persist in the current living arrangement; and that the necessary outcome to avoid immense human suffering can be described as the downscaling and re-localizing of everything we do. The two major parties regard the rule of law as optional, especially in money matters.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-03   11:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1997. To: mcgowanjm (#1996)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-03   12:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1998. To: All (#40)

Copper up on stimulus prospects after gloomy China data | DAWN ... dawn.com/.../copper-up-on...-prospects-after-gloomy... - Pakistan

20 hours ago – 12-13 meeting. In the euro zone, the manufacturing sector contracted faster than previously thought last month, despite factories cutting prices, ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-04   10:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1999. To: A K A Stone (#1997)

Success:

Manufacturing downturn eases sharply in August ... - The Guardian www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/10420513

1 day ago – The euro zone manufacturing sector contracted faster than previously thought last month, despite factories cutting prices, as core countries ...

Success:

Offshore Tax Havens.

Success:

Manufacturing ISM Misses, Third Month In Contraction Territory; Biggest Miss In Construction Spending In One year Tyler Durden's picture Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/04/2012 10:09 -0400

Success:

Highest Food Stamp Participation Ever News

Success:

Austerity for everyone but Military Top 1%.

Success:

$1.75 Quadrillion in Debt Derivatives.

Success:

the August Manufacturing ISM just printed at 49.6, down from July's 49.8, and well below expectations of 50. This was the third contraction in a row and joins the global PMI which as we reported yesterday now has 80% of the world in contractionary territory.

Success:

Iraq/the Afghans

Success:

5) the failure to force the rich to take their losses and to break up the banks means that the same people who caused the 2007/8 financial crisis still control the economy and the government.

6) failure to restructure the economy to get off oil and over to an electrical economy means that the US (and the world) are caught in the oil price dilemna: any real recovery increases oil price and will be derailed by those high oil prices.

7) Europe, ex. Germany, is in recession.

8 ) the developed world is in depression, it never left depression. During depressions there are recoveries (such as they are) and recessions, but the overall economy is in depression.

9) China’s economy is slowing down. Since China is the main engine of the world economy, followed by the US, this is really bad. If it goes into an actual recession, bend over and kiss your butt goodbye.

Success:

Legitimate Rape.....;} Vote it November 2012.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-04   10:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2000. To: mcgowanjm (#1999)

Post Y2K.

Greece is going back to the drachma, and dumping the euro. Liquidating debt, and giving Angela Merkel the finger. Can Spain and Italy be far behind?

Iceland paved the way.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-09-04   10:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2001. To: hondo68 (#2000)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-04   10:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2002. To: A K A Stone, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#2001)

Willard is an Olympic Gold Medal flip flopper.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-09-04   10:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2003. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Re: US drought is worst since the 1950s MY EDIT: WORST EVER

Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:14 am by mcgowanjm

Picasso Moon wrote:Interesting. Just south of you, in Seattle, a friend of mine has been reporting what a hot summer it's been. It's not been hot here either.

The Jet Stream and Thermohaline Conveyors like the Humboldt and the Gulfstream are the Sine Quo Nons of weather along with the Arctic.

The End of Arctic Ice Melt and Major Hurricane Formation Exactly coincide at September 10.

A Warm Arctic throws the Global Jet Stream completely out of whack.

This year the Jet went all the way down to Texas and then straight up to the Hudson Bay.

Looking for it to Reverse and go from Manitoba straight down to Texas.

We're going to wobble back and forth increasingly erratically til the New Steady State presents itself.

Obviously there will be a lot fewer humans around when that happens.

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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:19 am by mcgowanjm Re: US drought is worst since the 1950s

Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:19 am by mcgowanjm I've been reading 'Neven' since March.

And He/They have gone from 'Dry Scientist Chatter' to 'Day After Tomorrow' rants.

Just utterly amazing.

Even as there is to Today Not One AP piece connecting 2012 Record Breaking Heat/Drought/Flood to Climate Change.

And 8% of Record Weather articles of USSAMSM have mentioned Climate Change.

where we are with regards Arctic sea ice, and where we're headed.

I am asserting that 2010 was a key event, one with repercussions for the future, that will be seen in years to come as important a turning point as 2007 itself. Indeed 2010 may even have ushered in what Dr Peter Wadhams has said probably be a succession of crashes: "I think the next two or three years will see a further collapse and we'll then be encountering an Arctic ocean without sea ice in it during the summer months" BBC News 24, 19:23 27/8/12. A year ago I'd have disagreed, now I think he may be correct.

neven1.typepad.com/blog/2012/09/ ... .html#more

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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:21 am by mcgowanjm Re: US drought is worst since the 1950s

Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:21 am by mcgowanjm An Arctic Without Ice means the N Hemisphere Will Never have a Normal Summer again.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-04   10:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2004. To: mcgowanjm (#2003)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-04   21:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2005. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Arctic Ice might as well be gone.

The New Normal....get used to it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-05   7:01:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2006. To: A K A Stone (#2004)

Better come out with a new and improved religion.

One that incorporates 115 in Kansas City in July.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-05   7:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2007. To: hondo68 (#2000)

Greece is going back to the drachma, and dumping the euro. Liquidating debt, and giving Angela Merkel the finger. Can Spain and Italy be far behind?

Iceland paved the way.

With the Meme that Europe won't bother the USSA when it craters....;}

Spain can't ship money out faster.

$400+ Billion so far, on track for $660 Billion for the year.

The GDP is $1.8 Trillion.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-05   7:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2008. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Anyone ever hear of Disaster Food Stamps???????

;}

Some residents can pick up food stamps starting Wednesdayadd to reading list

Some hurricane victims can start picking up their disaster food stamps to help buy groceries that were lost in the storm. Residents that qualify must live in one of the 10 parishes that has been approved by the government.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-05   8:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2009. To: mcgowanjm, sneakypete, liberator (#2008)

Sneakypete Meets Governor Romney

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-05   19:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2010. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Climate Change.

The Most Censored Story 2012.

Arctic ice melt = 20 years of CO2 emissions

""The volume of ice in the summer is only a quarter of what it was 30 years ago and that's really the prelude to this final collapse," Prof Wadhams said.

Instead of being reflected away from the Earth, this energy is absorbed, and contributes to warming.

Parts of the Arctic Ocean are now as warm in summer as the North Sea is in winter, Prof Wadhams said.

neven1.typepad.com/blog/2...f-co2-emissions.html#more

Ice Free by 2015.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-09-06 7:39:58 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-06   7:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2011. To: A K A Stone (#2009)

legitimate rape. Vote Republican 2012.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-06   7:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2012. To: All (#40)

‘When’ is so … yesterday! Coyotes have been dropping for five years. The process has been satisfactorily papered over to a large extent. Managers have learned a lot about crisis management since 1929 and 1973 and 1987. When there are difficulties the managers know to run out the shills. The public — and markets — are credulous. They want to believe. Nobody wants a Greater Depression and will do whatever is possible to avoid one.

the cost of credit … has become too high for individual buyers to afford.

The speculators are victims of their own greed.

www.economic-undertow.com/2012/09/05/the-running-game/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-06   8:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2013. To: mcgowanjmm mininggole, cz82 (#2012)

From the democratic convention when they "voted" to change the rules

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-06   12:54:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2014. To: All (#2013)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-06   13:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2015. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Arctic Ice essentially gone now.

What's left is rotten.

High Pressure Stays over Greenland All Summer.

Does this every year since 2007.

"The Arctic sea-ice has long passed its tipping point, and so also have the other critical features in the polar north. We will soon have a very different, warmer Arctic climate with mind-boggling implications for the rate of Greenland melt, sea levels, the stability of permafrost and methane clathrates, and more extreme weather in the northern hemisphere. Welcome to the Arctic end times.

www.climatecodered.org/20...predicts-arctic.html#more

Three North Poles now. Axis, Magnetic, and Climatic. We can tell the children Santa lives in Greenland.

Posted by: Jim Williams | September 08, 2012 at 14:40 Protege Cuajimalpa

Our children have about 15 more years. More if they survive the Ice Age*.

* ICe Age Theory: Kicks in as Temp Change approaches a 5oC rise over 1760 Baseline.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-08   10:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2016. To: A K A Stone (#2013) (Edited)

From the democratic convention when they "voted" to change the rules

Doting on every word uttered and actions taken at the conventions will leave one senile.

My house has been declared a convention free zone.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-09-08   11:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2017. To: mininggold (#2016)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-08   18:58:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2018. To: mininggold (#2016)

My house has been declared a convention free zone.

The last convention I remember that was 'fun' was in Detroit at the State Fair Grounds...1980.

I was there, all of 23 years of age.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-09-08   19:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2019. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Now why would a teen age boy get in front of the CIA HQ in Kabul and blow himself up....

killing only street vendor teen age boys...

And then the various world protaganists weigh in on the incident.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-09   8:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2020. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.shadowstats.com/imgs/...mp.gif?hl=ad&t=1347024005

And we can add:

Social Class Warfare to

Market Manipulation

Climate Change

Peak Oil

....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-10   8:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2021. To: A K A Stone (#0)

[img]

[img]www.mybudget360.com/wp-co...2/09/employment-ratio.png

And in Tech Charting, a pattern like the above, you load up on Sell positions..... as we travel in the Way Back machine to the '50's-'60's Baseline of 55% Participation.

Which Then means that we have had another 'event'...... :roll: :shock: :twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-10   10:28:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2022. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"

Some of us (Dirty Fcukin' Hippies...;} over the last 11 years have read what seems like a million words, watched hundreds of videos, studied thousands of images, posted and re-posted things we felt were relevant, made comments all over the internet, gained friends and allies, made enemies, got ridiculed and called names, evolved in our thinking, picked flyspecks out of pepper, waded through the muck of disinformation, debated and argued the hows, watched as the trolls and paid provocateurs came around to infiltrate the narrative, became frustrated, exhilarated, encouraged and discouraged and never once thought of giving up. We never made a nickel out of it. Our schooling didn't get us a degree. We did it because we had to. We had no choice. When we were told 'you are with us or you are against us,' we chose the against side. It was the side of right, not might. We may not be the brightest light bulb around but we haven't burnt out yet. We continue just because someone has to and we aren't afraid.

kennysideshow.blogspot.co...e-do-we-go-from-here.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-10   10:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2023. To: All (#2022)

Eleven years ago, a major attack was carried upon the people all around the planet. This was an all-out onslaught of terror through the Spectacle, that resulted into a global fall into an Orwellian nightmare for most if not all of us.

This attack was used shock the public, especially the establishment, into calling out for total mindless vindication upon anyone who’ll be labelled a «terrorist», by terrorist States. It was used to crush our civil liberties, develop an unprecedented grid of total surveillance upon the proles, through CCTV’s and telecoms, as well as to bring despotic legal-militaristic measures to repress dissenters, immigrants and native people alike, put them into maximum security prisons;

and to further impose racist, restrictive immigration policies. It was also used to justify endless foreign military invasions worldwide, in what now seems to be part of the «new world order» agenda that George H.W. Bush called for, 22 years ago on the exact same date.

Whether intended or not, and conspiracy or not, the 9/11 attacks were the foundation for a new Nazi "Enabling Act", aimed at bringing ordinary fascism everywhere in the Western world, under a doctrine of Terror, of (inter)national (in)security.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-10   10:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2024. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I voted for him in 2008, by the way, since the wish-fulfillment motif moved me, and also because of the horrifying McCain-Palin opposition.

In office, then, Mr. Obama quickly proved to be a different breed of porpoise than the voters bargained for. He let the Wall Street privateers run amuck another four years, aided with colossal infusions of conjured-out-of-nothing "money" from the Federal Reserve.

He let loose the demons of a high-tech totalitarian "security" state with every sort of electronic surveillance, citizen data-mining, and drone spying that innovation allowed. He stood silent like a Banana Republic store mannequin after the supreme court decided that corporations could buy elections (he could have pushed loudly for legislation or even a constitutional amendment to redefine corporate "personhood").

And of course, he continued to prosecute the absurd war in Afghanistan where, after nine years, US forces are unable to accomplish the only aims of being there: to control the terrain and to moderate the behavior of the people who live there.

Kunstler

Taliban call Haqqani Network a 'conjured entity' By Bill RoggioSeptember 9, 2012

The Afghan Taliban derided the US's announcement that it would add the Haqqani Network to the list of terrorist entities and claimed the designation was an attempt to divide the group.

The Taliban released the statement yesterday on its propaganda website, Voice of Jihad. The statement was signed by "The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan," the official name of the Afghan Taliban.

In the statement, the Taliban claimed that there is "no separate entity or network in Afghanistan by the name of Haqqani," and that its overall leader, Jalaluddin Haqqani, is a member of the Quetta Shura, the group's top leadership council.

Read more: www.longwarjournal.org/ar...haqqani.php#ixzz265322TUu

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-10   11:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2025. To: All (#2024)

BBC Now Admits Al Qaeda Never Existed

SNIP "In reality, what the western media refers to as Al Qaeda is nothing more than a Salafi Jihadists.

Salafists Islam is the version of Islam pre-dominate in Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the government of Saudi Arabia actually recruits Islamic extremists from their schools to wage Salafi Jihad against other Sunni and Shiite Muslims.

The United States doesn’t want you to know this because Saudi Arabia’s jihadists are used as a proxy mercenary army to conduct covert operations for the US Government.

For example, they were used to overthrow the Libya government and are actively working to overthrow the Syria government.

For a complete history of Saudi Arabia’s Salafi Jihadists see: Saudi Arabia Paying UK Trained Terrorists Up To $3,000/Mo To Jihad Against Syria ....;}

46% of AMerikans believe Al Qaeda did 9/11.

The War of Terror was started to eliminate al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda is our ally in Syria.

To Believe All of the Above is Cognitive dissonance leading to Alhzeimer's and Insanity....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-10   11:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2026. To: Fred Mertz (#2024)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-10   21:55:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2027. To: A K A Stone (#2026)

Is Jacques Hebert a Frenchy or a Canuck?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-09-10   22:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2028. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"We must strive to curtail the abuse of liberty by immediately ending all foreign occupations, closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, vigorously prosecuting the use of torture, repealing the Patriot Act, ending assassinations without trial and stopping the use of drone missiles to carry out random attacks abroad and drone aircraft to conduct domestic surveillance. Only by respecting the human rights and dignity of all of the world's people and the Constitutional rights of our own citizens here at home may we possibly hope to maintain the ideals of liberty and freedom that the founders of this great nation bestowed upon us."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   8:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2029. To: All (#2028)

Why September is always a critical month.

Food and the future amounts of it can no longer be hidden.

The military will never be more food secure.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   8:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2030. To: A K A Stone (#0)

[quote][b]The ratio of stocks to disappearance in major exporting countries[/b][/quote]

The Common Farmer terminology:

[b]Grain Ending Stocks[/b].... :twisted:

[quote]

The world harvest of coarse grains, including corn, will drop by 17.4m tonnes, the FAO said, wiping more than [b]80m tonnes[/b] from its previous forecast.[/quote]

To put this into perspective:

Australia, the #2, 3 grain exporter, can produce 19 MMT wheat per year.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   9:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2031. To: All (#2030)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   9:16:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2032. To: All (#2031)

Who is Ken, or Kenneth, Wainstein? Part II http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2012/03/09/who-is-ken-or-kenneth-wainste...

The last part goes over Wainstein's role in the investigation and prosecution of Riggs' money laundering, which may have been connected to the funding of terrorist activities. Interesting fact: "During the time that was at issue in the investigation, Jonathan Bush was a senior executive at Riggs. Jonathan Bush was the uncle of President Bush, who later appointed Wainstein to senior roles in his Administration."

As Bergman notes, many questions remain due to the absence of information in the public record, and there is little to give the public confidence investigations have been thorough and credible.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   9:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2033. To: A K A Stone, All (#2032) (Edited)

Not one God Damn post in BreakingNews on 9/11....;}

Not. One.....;}

But I bet there's one on Jesus somewhere.........................;}

Planet Hell.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   10:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2034. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Market Manipulation.....LF? nothing.

Climate Change? nothing.

Peak Oil? nothing.

9/11? nothing.

The Afghans? nothing.

Iraq? nothing.

I stopped having hunches back in 2007 when Maslowski said 2013-2016 the Arctic Ice would be gone.

Us Dirty Fuckin Hippies Never get any credits.....never..... :twisted: :? 8-)

Good thing we;re self motivated huh?

Saturday, August 25, 2012 Climate Change: The Last Domino

In the next to last week of August, 2012, it became plain that the first domino was falling.

In that week, every single measure of Arctic sea ice extent and area reached a new record low simultaneously. By the end of that week, area – the best measure available – had gone 8.5% below the previous record low (in 2011). And this was four weeks before the point where Arctic sea ice would reach its minimum for the year.

In that four weeks, the minimum continued its downward slide. For the first time in either 20,000 or 5 million years, major parts of the Central Arctic Basin above 80 degrees North were open water. Currents carried ice that was in most cases less than three feet thick across the North Pole and poured it steadily into the Fram Strait east of Greenland, where it melted. Less than 5% of Arctic sea ice remained by year’s end to build on for multi-year ice. And when October arrived, and the sun set permanently for the winter over the Arctic Ocean, refreezing was delayed, as the warmer water resisted the colder air.

And so it continued, until by 2018, in September, pretty much all of the ice in the Arctic Ocean was gone. And then the period of no ice widened, and widened, until somewhere between 2030 and 2045 there was no ice in the Arctic Ocean year-round. The water was warmer, as the sun in summer beat down and stored heat in that ocean to be released in the fall, and warmer currents from the south no longer were combated by cold ice, and global warming from the south increased the air temperatures to 20 degrees Fahrenheit and above in the depths of winter. And that ocean heat, in turn, warmed the global air by only 1 degree Fahrenheit. But that was only the first domino.

http://waynekernochanblog.blogspot.com/ ... chive.html

BTW, that Bold above :?:

By 2030, we'll have had at least a decade where the Hoover Dam was doing nothing of consequence.

And the Temp will be 3oC over the 1760 Baseline.

This all goes to say that as long as climate change continues to advance—it seems that nothing can stop that now—and we maintain a global food system perennially subject to volatile price spikes and exploitation from speculators, without reform, our world will be an increasingly restive one. Hunger is coming, and so are the riots.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   10:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2035. To: All (#2034)

At the end of this article, I should perhaps mention that this research ultimately led to negative consequences for me. After I contacted the FBI, I was informed by the publisher of a German financial website, for which I conducted interviews for a professional fee (and had already prepared more work), that no further cooperation was possible. Now that I will come in one way or another into the focus of the FBI, any association with me would be undesirable.

Well, you know the rules.

As far as the abnormal option trades around 9/11 are concerned, I want to give Max Keiser the last word in order to point out the significance of the story.

Max Keiser: Regardless of who did it, we can know that more than a few had advance warning – the trading in the option market makes that clear.

nsnbc.wordpress.com/2012/...-911-the-facts-laid-bare/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   10:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2036. To: Fred Mertz (#2027)

Is Jacques Hebert a Frenchy or a Canuck?

There's also lots of Heberts in Louisiana. They do everything from owning restaurants and tourist attractions, to running cattle and owning strings of bucking bulls and horses.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-09-11   11:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2037. To: mininggold (#2036)

That's correct. There is at least one jockey by that name...and I'm struggling for his first name...

Tracy Hebert, I found it.

I think they are mainly Cajuns or Coon-asses.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-09-11   16:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2038. To: mcgowanjm (#2035) (Edited)

After I contacted the FBI, I was informed by the publisher of a German financial website, for which I conducted interviews for a professional fee (and had already prepared more work), that no further cooperation was possible.

Interesting article. I'd heard about this, and it made sense that some were so cold-blooded as to profit from the deaths of thousands...

Article was too long, was rambling and disjointed. You could have done the deal with maybe three pages, with hyperlinks to various sources.

Lars Schall is a German financial journalist.

Interesting. It certainly explains why you endlessly talk about nothing (resulting in the mcToeJam wire) and endless environmental diatribes. Maybe you should talk about whether the German court is going to torpedo the ESM? (German torpedo, get it??? I'm here all week, folks!)
Trivia pick: who was the first modern enviroMENTAList? Adoph Hitler.

That's you?

I recommend Pepto Bismol.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-09-11   17:37:54 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2039. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Right after 9/11, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld accused Iraq of having a hand in the attacks. People may not remember now, but – at the time – the supposed Saddam-9/11 link was at least as important a justification for the Iraq war as the alleged weapons of mass destruction.

Bush and Cheney then launched a systematic program of torture in an attempt to create false evidence – through false confessions – of a link between Iraq and 9/11. The torture techniques used were Communist techniques specifically designed to produce false confessions."

Turn into a Muslim so you can beat your wife......

Pat 9/11 Robertson

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   20:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2040. To: Capitalist Eric (#2038)

bush43 will be remembered for nothing else except

9/11.

So WTF IS HE!!!!!!?????

LMFAO....

46% of Amerikans still think Al Qaeda did 9/11.....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   20:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2041. To: Capitalist Eric, All (#2040)

# March 2007 - We The People Foundation www.wethepeoplefoundation...DATE/Update2007-03-26.htm

Mar 26, 2007 – “The currency component of M1 (Federal Reserve Notes circulating outside of banks) ... In fact, up to and including August 2001, that month (August 2001) was one of the ... the Muckraker Report and Bill Bergman, the former analyst at the Federal Reserve Bank ... Watch the 3-day conference LIVE via PPV!

Fed offers explanation for $5 billion surge

Weeks later, on June 22, the daily brief reported that Qaeda strikes could be “imminent,” although intelligence suggested the time frame was flexible.

But some in the administration considered the warning to be just bluster. An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at

the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day.

NYT

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard...07/discussion.cgi.23.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/contrib...everyone+drops+to+zero%29

May 30, 2007 – Bergman raised questions about the July / August 2001 M1 currency ... William Bergman worked at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago from July .... June 3, 2001 – Argentina says it swapped $29.5 billion of debt, deferring ... theintelhub.com July 16, 2012 This article originally appeared on 9/11 Blogger Very interesting interview with Bill Bergman who worked at the Chicago Federal Reserve for over 13 years as an economist and financial markets policy analyst. As with many others in a wide range of fields, when he started asking questions his employment position was no longer needed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   21:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2042. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And this is a pretty good series of 9/11 events

to be aired by a USSA MSM most likely never or until the USSA is disintegrated.

Able Danger the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency along with the Israeli Mossad and F.B.I. are tracking two of the hijacker teams for a year before the attack. Venice airport where they had their flight training is used by the C.I.A. and D.E.A. as a transit airport. Mohammed Atta was in prison for life until an agreement

was made releasing all Arab political prisoners in Israel at Camp David under Clinton, Atta was serving a life sentence for a bus bombing. Operation Northwoods a 1960's C.I.A. plan to have Cuban nationals hijack American passenger planes with box cutter knives and fly them into national monuments as a pre-text for war with Cuba.

Operation BOJINKA plot discovered in laptop computer seized from Ramsey Yousef detailing plan to hijack U.S. airlines and crash them into buildings in the 1990's. Ex U.S. Navy man Micheal Vreeland is arrested in Canada and tells authorities about an intelligence plot involving Arab terrorists to hijack airlines and fly them into targets in New York and L.A. months before 9/11. Leader of the Northern Alliance is blown up days before the attack by an unidentified man posing as a T.V. news camera man.

Head of Pakistani I.S.I. is in Washington for high level meetings with State Department and U.S. Senate the day of 9/11 escorted by Secret Service goes to bank and wires money to two different hijackers the day before. Marvin Bush runs security company installing new telecommunications system in twin towers months before attack. Israeli "art students" are arrested day of attack cheering and video taping tower collapse they are deported after being confirmed as MOSSAD agents illegally in the country. F.B.I. raids home across the street from Mohammed Atta's apartment building and arrests Israeli nationals dealing MDMA,

they have high tech surveillance system with audio and visual trained on apartment buildings. February 2001 Collin Powell announces international drive to secure largest uranium deposit ever discovered on planet in Afghanistan. President Bush tells Taliban they will accept U.S. oil pipeline deal with Unocal of he will "bomb them back to the stone age". World Trade Center lease holder buys separate insurance policies against terrorist attacks for each building in complex.

NORAD on stand down 9/11/2001 for airline hijacking response training mission, Air Force in confusion scrambles no jets to intercept planes. FEMA terrorism response drill scheduled for 9/12-9/13 in New York allows agency to be in place the night before attacks ready to respond to real terror event.

Israeli shipping company ZIM pulls out of twin towers month before attacks losing $50,000.00 on lease, Computer software company ODIGO, a Jewish firm receives emails warning of attack morning of 9/11- employees go home without telling anyone. A.T.F. and F.B.I. both on company holiday excursions have staff offices empty in Twin Towers on day of attack.

THEY HAD NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE ATTACKS.

THE ATTACKS WERE UNJUSTIFIED, WERE ACTS OF AGGRESSION.

IT WAS AN INTELLIGENCE FAILURE.

Sep 12, 2011 at 1:02 AM | Unregistered CommenterDave M Image #1 contains the best image of the 'spire' before its base melted that I've ever seen.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   22:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2043. To: A K A Stone (#0)

dailybail.com/home/new-ae...rade-center-collapse.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-11   22:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2044. To: A K A Stone (#0)

[quote="Picasso Moon"]NO is special, but NOT irreplaceable.[/quote]

OK, Britain wins the battle of New Orleans.

or

the Confederates stop Farragut.

You've got another way to get control of the Mississippi River Valley.....I don't think so.

And you're going to get the Oil/Gas how?

And speaking of grain...

WASDE just out. Drought was worst ever, but irrigation's a wonderful thing.....

for now..... :twisted: :? 8-)

[quote]"An unchanged or higher corn yield than the USDA's Aug forecast of 123.4 bushels per acre —against a backdrop of eroding technicals—would trigger more liquidation," Richard Feltes at RJ O'Brien warned.[/quote]

Looks like 123.4 was beat.

[img]finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=ZC&cot=002602&p=m5

[img]finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=ZS&cot=005602&p=m5

[img]finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=ZW&cot=001602&p=m5

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-12   8:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2045. To: mcgowanjm (#2044)

Looks kind of like where Obama will spend eternity.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-12   9:36:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2046. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Baltic Dry Index Wednesday, 12 September 2012 | 00:00 Daily Summary of Baltic Exchange Dry Indices 12-09-2012 ========================================================

Baltic Exchange Dry Index BDI 661 ( DOWN 1) Baltic Exchange Capesize Index BCI 1186 ( DOWN 1) Baltic Exchange Panamax Index BPI 545 ( DOWN 21) Baltic Exchange Supramax Index BSI 825 ( UP 4) Baltic Exchange Handysize Index BHSI 471 ( UP 5)

Nothing gets better until Oil falls 30% and the BDI rises 50%.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-12   10:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2047. To: A K A Stone (#2045)

Looks kind of like where Obama will spend eternity.

I don't believe it.

Less than 30 years of Independent 'free will' decision making and one wrong move you're in Hell forever.

Why even create the fuckers in the first place unless you're some kind of SadoMasochistic god....;}

BORED?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-12   10:58:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2048. To: mcgowanjm (#2046)

Nothing gets better until Oil falls 30% and the BDI rises 50%.

That ain't gonna' happen for a very long time...

The EU is spiraling down to a fiery crash, the USA is right behind.... as is China.

We're still at the beginning of the "interesting times."


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-09-12   14:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2049. To: A K A Stone (#0)

With the USSA actively supporting with Armaments/Logistics the Al Qaeda fighters from Libya to syria, the charade that is and has been the War of Terror falls apart....

Why do you think Israel is apoplectic this AM?....;}

And WTF is McCain and his Iraqi Freedom Fighters?

LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-13   8:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2050. To: Capitalist Eric (#2048) (Edited)

Nothing gets better until Oil falls 30% and the BDI rises 50%.

That ain't gonna' happen for a very long time...

The EU is spiraling down to a fiery crash, the USA is right behind.... as is China.

We're still at the beginning of the "interesting times."

EXcept for this: "That ain't gonna' happen for a very long time..."

You're right on the mark...;}

Ex:

Note the Sum of the Top 1000's Wealth...

Then,

There's maybe $10 (closer to 6) Trillion in cash worldwide.

How many of the Top 1000 can fit thru that Cash Door at the same time.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-13   8:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2051. To: mcgowanjm (#2047)

Less than 30 years of Independent 'free will' decision making and one wrong move you're in Hell forever.

No it is not that. It is his rejection of Gods teachings, and siding with the muslims.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-13   8:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2052. To: mcgowanjm (#2050)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-13   8:42:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2053. To: A K A Stone (#2051)

No it is not that. It is his rejection of Gods teachings, and siding with the muslims.

SO one wrong move concerning

'god's teachings' .....thru jesus?

Second, third hand info?

and then when a new religion with jesus as prophet

(prophet not good enough but jews are;)

and One wrong move gets you Eternity in Extreme pain forever.

Why create the miscreants in the first place?

A sick and vengeful god I want no part of.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-13   8:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2054. To: A K A Stone (#2052)

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jon Corzine a Commie?

How about Blamnkfein?

Jamie Dimon?

Not one fcuking bankster in jail

while Putin

put the richest man in Russia:

Khodorkovsky in jail where he rots today.

Communism for the Top 1%

Free Market for everyone else.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-13   9:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2055. To: mcgowanjm (#2053)

I was always told we choose where we spend eternity. Sounds like you made your choice. You'll have to live with that choice or open your eyes and make a new choice.

Good luck.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-13   9:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2056. To: A K A Stone (#2055)

I was always told

'ALways', an All inclusive autom,atically makes the statement false.

The first thing religious 'teachers' should teach....but of course don't because that undermines their authority... and we can't be having any of that...

'Become a muslim so you can beat your wife'

Pat 9/11 Robertson....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-13   9:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2057. To: A K A Stone (#2055)

I was always told we choose where we spend eternity.

And who told you how long we have to pay for our mistakes?....

Forever's a long time to pay for 30 years when you didn't have a clue of what was coming.

and you've got parents and the State lying to your scrawny ass from Day 1.

Your god sucks....;}

And don't worry about my luck....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-13   9:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2058. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Khalid Khan: pic posted by Afghan Taliban shows British air base in Shorab,Helmand, after coming under attack, wounding Prince Harry

http://t.co/FFDL9qdy

Sep 15, 2012, 05:33 UTC

pic posted by Afghan Taliban shows British air base in Shorab - Inagist inagist.com/all/246844233087086592/

6 hours ago – pic posted by Afghan Taliban shows British air base in Shorab,Helmand, after coming under attack, wounding Prince Harry http://t.co/FFDL9qdy ...

Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Saturday, 28 Syawal 1433 Saturday, 15 September 2012 04:38

HELMAND, Sep. 15 – Officials reporting from Gerishk district of Helmand province state that tens of martyrdom seeking Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate stormed the second largest enemy military base in southern Afghanistan, Shorab airbase, which houses tens of thousands of foreign troops including the prince of Whales, Harry last night.

Officials further say that dozens of invaders were killed in the initial phases as well as several Jets, Apache and Chinook helicopters destroyed, adding that the military base is engulfed in fire and covered in heavy smoke while the operation is still ongoing.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-15   8:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2059. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#3. To: Robin (#2)

Amy Goodman heard the countdown from a nearby responders radiophone.

It takes weeks to drop a building in it's own footprint.

Bryan Jennings did not get the word to stay away from Giuliani/Jerome Hauer's Command Post in WTC7.

'Sandwiches half eaten, coffee still steaming'.

On the way down multiple explosions. Had to be rescued.

SS Agent Craig Murray died in WTC 7 of unidentified causes.....;}

The Smoking Gun....one of several.

cheney/NORAD/SS/CIA/Mossad/Urban Moving Systems/Shin Bet/ Dov Zakheim/rumsfeld/

Dr. Philip Zack is a Catholic. - Analyzing The Anthrax Attacks

www.anthraxinvestigation.com/PhilipZack.html

Jul 13, 2008 – The trail that leads us to the perpetrators of the anthrax letter terrorist attacks ends at Ft. Detrick, where the "Camel Club" held court. Check out ...

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-15   8:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2060. To: A K A Stone (#2055)

I was always told we choose where we spend eternity. Sounds like you made your choice. You'll have to live with that choice or open your eyes and make a new choice.

Good luck.

BTW....there's a Hell of alot more baptists in Texas than there are in heaven.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-15   9:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2061. To: All (#2060)

“Arab nations have been building up a strong sentiment against the US for some time, viewing it as an anti-Islamic country – particularly because of the wars it fights inside Islamic nations,” investigative journalist Gareth Porter told RT.

"This should be a wake-up call – a red light flashing – for the national security elite in the US. They need to take a deep breath and have a rethink about the broad policy they’ve been following with regards to national security," Porter said.

But they won't.

Just like the Brits and every Empire before them....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-15   9:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2062. To: All (#2061)

BTW, there won't be a QE 4 cause Cause QE3 runs to Infinity or the Implosion of the USSA, whichever comes first....;}

Lots of Loans....but none for you!!!!....

US Continues To Warmonger As World Slides Into Confrontations And Chaos

While nakedly conducting a quite cynical war against virtually all Muslims who aren’t US dictators, the government here has to pretend we are ‘liberating’ people even as the same people doing this liberation stuff hate the people they are ‘rescuing’ and end up being open looting expeditions.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-15   9:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2063. To: All (#2062)

66.70.86.64/ChartServer/c...20Average,,&Unit=US%20$/G

We're at the top.

Above $4 gas might as well be $10 for all the Infrstrcuture can afford it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-15   9:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2064. To: All (#2063)

As the price of gasoline and all energy products relentlessly rise thanks to the insane US-imposed embargo in Iran, we simultaneously see boiling over rage in nearly all Muslim nations except for the super-suppressive, super-secretive Saudi Arabian held territories. Anti-US protests spread across the Middle East is no shock since both political parties chose to have the ‘Jerusalem for only Jews’ plank in their platforms. Saudi Arabia’s rulers control Mecca and the al Qaeda movement is all about control of Mecca.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-15   9:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2065. To: A K A Stone (#0)

You only have to know two things to know 9/11....;}

One is that according to the official story, a handful of Arabs, mainly Saudi Arabians, operating independently of any government and competent intelligence service, men without James Bond and V for Vendetta capabilities, outwitted not only the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, but all 16 US intelligence agencies, along with all security agencies of America’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad. Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed. Airport security failed four times in one hour. NORAD failed. Air Traffic Control failed. The US Air Force failed. The National Security Council failed. Dick Cheney failed. Absolutely nothing worked. The world’s only superpower was helpless at the humiliating mercy of a few undistinguished Arabs.

It is hard to image a more far-fetched story–except for the second thing you need to know: The humiliating failure of US National Security did not result in immediate demands from the President of the United States, from Congress, from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and from the media for an investigation of how such improbable total failure could have occurred. No one was held accountable for the greatest failure of national security in world history. Instead, the White House dragged its feet for a year resisting any investigation until the persistent demands from 9/11 families for accountability forced President George W. Bush to appoint a political commission, devoid of any experts, to hold a pretend investigation. "

www.paulcraigroberts.org/...y-911-paul-craig-roberts/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-16   8:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2066. To: mcgowanjm (#2065)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-16   9:14:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2067. To: A K A Stone (#0)

[quote="Picasso Moon"]Next stop, Weimar![/quote]

No.

Next Stop the USSA's Empire implodes....by Xmas.

Because the colonies refuse the $. As long as a gallon of petrol can be bought at 'Home Imperial Citizen prices....say $4 per, then it's deflation/credit contraction first.

Then and Only then, after isolation of the target nationstate will you get hyperinflation.

66.70.86.64/ChartServer/c...20Average,,&Unit=US%20$/G

We're topping now. Collapse of price on the way. OR Empire implodes.

Either way we're days/weeks away now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-16   10:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2068. To: A K A Stone (#2066)

It makes no sense that the “mastermind” of the most humiliating blow in world history ever to have been delivered against a superpower would not claim credit for his accomplishment. By September 11, 2001, Osama bin Laden knew that he was deathly ill. According to news reports he underwent kidney dialysis the following month. The most reliable reports that we have are that he died in December 2001. It is simply not credible that bin Laden denied responsibility because he feared Washington.

But Osama bin Laden was too useful a bogeyman, and Washington and the presstitute media kept him alive for another decade until Obama needed to kill the dead man in order to boost his sinking standings in the polls so that Democrats would not back a challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Numerous bin Laden videos, every one pronounced a fake by experts, were released whenever it was convenient for Washington. No one in the Western media or in the US Congress or European or UK parliaments was sufficiently intelligent to recognize that a bin Laden video always showed up on cue when Washington needed it. “Why would the ‘mastermind’ be so accommodating for Washington?” was the question that went through my mind every time one of the fake videos was released.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-16   10:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2069. To: A K A Stone (#0)

According to professor Melman, who wrote these words of warning 36 years ago, the United States Permanent War Economy would so economically devastate the US, that by the year 2015, over 3.5 million manufacturing jobs would be moved offshore threatening the very survival of his country as its capital markets could not support the sheer weight of a military budget seeking to control the entire world, while at the same time supporting a vibrant civilian consumer economy.

Unfortunately for the United States, professor Melman’s estimates of the manufacturing jobs that would be lost by 2015 have far exceeded his predictions with new estimates showing that over 5.7 million of them have been lost in the last twelve years alone, a staggering figure that dwarfs even those losses suffered by America during the Great Depression.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-16   20:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2070. To: All (#2069)

On September 10th, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld made a stunning announcement. ��we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions �� [i]In the realm of business, with its emphasis on profit maximizing, such looseness in accounting would either be evidence of monumental incompetence or deliberate falsification.

But not in the Pentagon. For there, the dominant measure of success is gain in power, the ability to control the behavior of groups of people, even whole nations. When it comes to maximizing power, monetary efficiency often comes second. Thus it appears to be normal for Pentagon managers to treat the inability to match payments made with goods or services received as a mere inconvenience that may be brushed off as so much �budget dust�. * Magnitudes such as 2.3 trillion, while ordinary in astronomy are unusual in economy. Note that $2.3 trillion exceeds the net value of the entire plant and equipment of U.S. manufacturing industries, currently measured as $1.8 trillion. [ii]

The Pentagon managers� loss of $2.3 trillion has a far greater significance than as a mere exhibition of trashy administration. The U.S. is now in the grip of a highly militarized form of state-capitalism that was gradually installed during the half century of Cold War (as I will discuss in Chapters 1 & 2). Without formal announcement or debate, this development has spurred the deindustrialization of the U.S. (see Chapter 3).

ejournals.library.vanderb...ests/article/view/124/130

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-16   20:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2071. To: mcgowanjm (#2070)

On September 10th, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld made a stunning announcement. we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions

I wonder what Clinton did with the money. ;)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-16   21:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2072. To: mcgowanjm (#2070)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-16   21:29:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2073. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Good Morning.

Time to party like there's no tomorrow....

but how would that be different than now?.......;}

"There is no hope. Only Denial.

For 16 months now I have been writing this blog and attempting to document what I see as the hopeless predicament faced by our industrialized society and America in particular as we confront the multiple scourges of peak oil, resource depletion, overpopulation, climate change and environmental degradation. One thing you may have noticed if you have been a regular reader of this blog is a distinct lack of proffered solutions to our collective predicament.

Quite simply, that is because I do not have any solutions, or at least not any that I believe have any chance of being accepted by enough people to matter. Beyond making adjustments in your own life to ensure that you don't fall between the cracks during this "zombie economy" period in which the lights still come on at night,

I am firmly of the belief that there is not a whole lot you, me or any other single individual can do. We are merely passengers on this runaway train, and the engine room is as off limits to us as the dark side of the moon."

http://billhicksisdead.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-17   8:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2074. To: A K A Stone (#2072)

there is no justification that any thinking person who is not a raging psychopath could bring forth that makes any sense whatsoever. Even had these women and girls been carrying AK-47s instead of logs and sticks they would represent exactly ZERO threat to the American homeland.

But go ahead, America, convince yourselves that the recent wave of anti-American demonstrations and attacks on our embassies and consulates are happening because all Muslims are easily excitable, irrational whack-a-toons. They couldn't POSSIBLY have any legitimate grievances against the utterly exceptional "shining city on the hill" after more than a decade of such senseless violence."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-17   8:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2075. To: A K A Stone (#2071)

I wonder what Clinton did with the money. ;)

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...;}

Gave it to the Top 400....

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...;}

No difference at the Top between psychopaths....

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.....

But you can be Damn sure that the Trillions weren't given to the Bottom 99%.....

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....;}

End of Empire by Xmas.....

The Perfect gift from the Sweet Baby jesus.....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-17   8:53:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2076. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Fed has announced its third quantitative easing program. To state what should be obvious, the effect on the economy for ordinary people will be minimal, as with QE1 and 2. It will help banks, financial firms most, other large corporations will also benefit. If you work at the executive level in one of those organizations, it will help you and raise your salary or bonuses. It will not significantly raise demand for goods and services and will not do much for the rest of the economy. Remember, 93% of the gains of the Obama recovery went to the rich, and that was not by mistake.

from → Ben Bernanke, Employment and Unemployment, Income Inequality

www.ianwelsh.net/qe-3/?ut...+IanWelsh+%28Ian+Welsh%29

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-17   11:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2077. To: A K A Stone (#0)

RUH ROH

Libyan Witness: Ambassador Stevens Was Alive When Found

A video was also taken of Stevens' seemingly lifeless body as those present carried him to a hospital

by John Glaser, September 17, 2012

US Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens was alive when angry Libyans found him after an attack on the consulate building in Benghazi last week, eye witnesses have told the Associated Press.

Reports initially said that by the time anyone got to him, Stevens had died from smoke inhalation. But a group of people reportedly pulled Stevens from the room in the burning consulate building, saw he was still breathing and brought him to a hospital.

He was breathing and his eyelids flickered, one witness said. “I tested his pulse and he was alive,” he said “No doubt. His face was blackened and he was like a paralyzed person.”

Photographs of Stevens’ seemingly lifeless body were taken, but one man present took a video of the Libyans carrying Stevens struggling body to the hospital.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-18   8:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2078. To: mcgowanjm (#2077)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-18   9:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2079. To: All (#2078) (Edited)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-18   11:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2080. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Truth replaced by silence is evil and there's a lot of evil on your USSA MSM this AM.....;}

Stupid fcuks.

How you can tell when the war is over.

" So I’m glad Romney’s comments to wealthy millionaire donors are getting some attention, because it’s finally out in the open what the ruling classes really thing of the rest of us.This is what the ruling class says behind closed doors. One of the best things I read came from a blogger at Forbes (!!!):

This is where more than thirty years of confusing wealth with virtue and deriding Americans who aren’t impossibly rich as indolent and entitled slackers will leave you: with a multi-millionaire candidate for president who made his fortune by depriving other people of their livelihood, who doesn’t even bother to hide his contempt for the ever-increasing number of economic losers engendered by our one percent economy, a world his own policies and actions helped create.

Even Marie Antoinette thought the peasants deserved cake."

Forbes.com

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-09-19 8:35:04 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-19   8:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2081. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Me thinks someone got the Inventory report early.... :twisted: :? 8-)

www.businessweek.com/news...t-u-dot-s-dot-supply-drop

Demand is being crushed.

[quote] Futures decreased as much as 3.3 percent after the Energy Department said supplies rose [b]8.53 million barrels[/b] last week, more than eight times what was projected in a Bloomberg survey. Imports arrived at the highest rate since January and output rose. Crude fell before the report on speculation Saudi Arabia is moving to reduce prices. [/quote]

Look for a crash now. No oil wasting, No economy growing.

So much for QE3 to infinity.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-19   13:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2082. To: mcgowanjm (#2081)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-20   18:43:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2083. To: A K A Stone (#0)

looking for confirmation.

After September 6 2012 China sells oil in Yuan.

After September 7 2012 Russia sells China all the oil they want for as long as they want it.

September 8 2012 Status Quo no longer benefits USSA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-21   9:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2084. To: All (#2083)

looking for confirmation.

Confirmation:

12:13 China in closed door negotiations to purchase Mexican crude oil without using US dollars

The president also told reporters that in his view the situation in the neighboring Afghanistan will not change for the better in the nearest future, but Russian military presence in the region, both in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, is a serious factor of stability.

Atambayev told the press that he and Putin did not discuss the US military presence on Kyrgyz territory or the US air base at Bishkek Airport during the summit.

As for Kyrgyzstan’s own position, Atambayev said he had repeatedly supported the idea of conversion of the Bishkek base into a civilian air transport hub, and starting from 2014, when the rent agreement with the US expires, it will not be prolonged.

“A civilian airport must be a civilian site,” the president said adding, that he had repeatedly informed the US authorities about these plans. Putin confirmed that he and his Kyrgyz colleague “not only didn’t discuss the US air base, but didn’t even mention it” and stressed that the question of foreign military presence in the country was Kyrgyzstan’s own sovereign right.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-24   9:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2085. To: A K A Stone (#0)

It's happening now.

We don't make it to Xmas....;}

"Monday, September 24, 2012 Dopium Overdose

As one would expect of a massive Ponzi Scheme collapsing in real-time, the model has become self-cannibalizing. The crushing impacts of reverse growth have been felt all along at the bottom of the pyramid of course. Next came the liquidation of the middle class,....

ponziworld.blogspot.com/

The Days of Rage are just getting started.

The Guards have left their posts....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-24   10:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2086. To: All (#2085)

www.rcwhalen.com/pdf/qe3.pdf

“The entire move in MBS prices will go into profit margins,” one mortgage market veteran told the Berlin-New York-Los Angeles mortgage study group last week. “FHFA has made sure that the mortgage market has oligopoly pricing and zero competition for the existing servicers. QE3 is risk free profits for the unworthy. And we wasted 40 years and Trillions of dollars fighting the USSR over the need for a free enterprise system?”

Unfortunately, since two thirds of the mortgage market cannot be refinanced, the effect of the Fed’s largesse will indeed go straight to the GSEs and Wall Street zombie banks. This is the key, historical error being committed by Bernanke and the rest of the FOMC.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-24   10:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2087. To: A K A Stone (#0)

You can't beat the irony of Wall Street firms having to turn the knife on themselves and start imposing on themselves the same annihilation that they have imposed on the rest of the country.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-24   11:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2088. To: A K A Stone (#0)

It’s even harder to recall a time when a trusted ally openly urged the American president to undertake a questionable, unpopular and highly risky war. We sure hope Netanyahu knows what he’s doing, because the stakes for him — and for the two nations he professes to care about the most — could not be higher.

The Jewish Daily Forward has good reasons to wonder whether Netanyahu knows what he’s doing. The editorialist cites polls showing that the American people strongly oppose attacking Iran, even if war breaks out between Iran and Israel and only US intervention could save Israel! These polls show that American voters no longer give a damn whether Israel, which has chosen to live by the sword, finally dies by the sword. As Dave Lindorff observes, Netanyahu’s mad obsession with pushing the US into yet another unwanted war for Israel “may have fundamentally undermined the long-standing ‘special relationship’ between the US and Israel.

And still Netanyahu continues on this seemingly suicidal course. He even orders the Mossad and its CIA assets including Gladio veteran Terry Jones to unleash a rabidly anti-Islam film, spammed into the faces of every Muslim on the planet via millions of dollars of computer server time and intelligence agency expertise – an obvious attempt to fan the flames of islamophobia and pave the way to a US war on Iran for Israel.

Obama, who is on record saying he hates Netanyahu and that Netanyahu is a liar, and who knows that Netanyahu manufactured the “Innocence of Muslims” crisis to try to get Romney elected, responded by refusing to meet with Netanyahu in New York, and going on the David Letterman Show instead. A more blatant snub could hardly be imagined.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-24   13:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2089. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Newborn Loses Faith In Humanity After Record 6 Days

SCHAUMBURG, IL—In a turn of events that has stunned the worldwide medical community, local infant Nathan Jameson, born just six days ago, has become the youngest person ever to permanently and irrevocably lose all faith in humanity.

“This shatters all previous records,” University of Chicago psychologist Douglas McAllister said Monday. “In all of documented medical history, there is no case of a newborn taking less than four months to develop the mental faculties required to grasp the full extent of this existential nightmare we call life on earth.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-25   7:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2090. To: All (#2089)

Based on the historical record, Obama’s True Vote share is about 4-5% higher than the latest polls indicate. It is a certainty that he will lose millions of votes on Election Day to fraud. The only question is: Will he overcome the systemic fraud factor? As of today, it appears he will.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-25   7:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2091. To: All (#2090)

“Considering he already comprehends harsh realities that many people spend their entire fleeting, shallow existences attempting to deny, Baby Nathan is quite the little miracle!” he added. Though he has not yet developed the capacity for speech, extensive cognitive testing has definitively shown that the shockingly perceptive 6-day-old fully understands and accepts that human beings cannot be trusted, that they remain far too ignorant for their opinions to be reliable, that a lack of self-awareness about their own destructive tendencies pervades the species as a whole, and that most are too ineffectual to successfully pursue even the shallow self-interested agendas that rule their lives.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-25   7:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2092. To: All (#2091)

The more money an American makes, the less actual work he or she does.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-25   7:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2093. To: All (#2092) (Edited)

August 2015

Arctic Ice Free.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-25   7:17:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2094. To: All (#2093)

Sources said the early-blooming newborn was putting two and two together about the real nature of humanity even before leaving the hospital, where his first sensory experiences included the shouts of sick people arguing to get treatment they urgently needed, visitors staring vacantly at smartphones as they sat next to bedridden loved ones, televisions blaring the empty rhetoric and emotionally manipulative appeals of political advertisements, and dozens upon dozens of pained, desperate cries, including his own.

Local reports confirmed the baby’s disillusionment was only compounded by the fact that he spent his first days in the bleak and soulless suburban conformity of Schaumburg, IL, its empty consumerist non-culture allowing him to realize in record time that all human pursuits are cold, joyless, and devoid of any substantive purpose or integrity.

“For a baby, he sure is an insightful little guy,” Nathan’s mother, Melanie Jameson, told reporters. “My husband and I are a loveless, narcissistic couple whose weird, freaked-out neediness and anxieties—which we sublimate under a mask of facile self-regard—would normally be introjected into our child’s forming psyche over the course of years. But this talented fella just took it all in at once!”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-25   7:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2095. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Those sportswriters and fans who are now shrieking about how the integrity of the NFL has been damaged by the use of replacement referees are pissing in the wind. Obviously, the billionaires who run the league could not give a shit about the game’s integrity just so long as they can keep reaping billions of dollars in profits from it. Winning is nice, but making money is all they really care about. If you were to hold a gun to the head of any NFL owner and force them to answer honestly whether they would rather have their team win five Super Bowl Championships or receive a sweetheart new stadium deal with plenty of luxury skyboxes from the taxpayers of his state, I guarantee you that every single one of them would take the stadium deal over the Lombardi Trophies. That’s what separates them from the idiot fans who root for each team: the fans genuinely care whether the team wins or not.

It’s the same thing across all aspects of American society. Yesterday, I posted again about Bain Capital closing the Sensata manufacturing plant in my hometown of Freeport, Illinois, and sending the jobs off to China. You would think that such a horrendous action would rip the heart out of anyone who really cares about this country and about the welfare of its citizens, but clearly the sociopathic assholes who run Bain Capital and the poodle politicians they keep in their back pocket—from Willard Romney to President Hopey-Changey—do not care about America any more than those NFL owners do about the supposed “integrity of the game.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-26   7:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2096. To: All (#2095) (Edited)

What’s most amusing to me about this latest tempest in a Hologram teapot is that there actually is a very good lesson to be learned from this debacle even if you are not a sports fan. In fact, let me briefly summarize the issue for those you who do not spend your autumn Sunday afternoons glued to your television screens.

The NFL is run by a group of 31 billionaire owners (and the Green Bay Packers, who are owned by the city of Green Bay) who just signed a $20 billion national television contract to broadcast their mediocre games into every household in the land. That big, fat wad of teevee cash virtually guarantees that the owners will make a profit every year no matter how well they manage (or mismanage) their teams. Moreover,

for the past 30 years NFL commissioners have been steadfastly pushing league player personnel rules in such a way to encourage “parity” (mediocrity), meaning that the talent level on each team now evens out enough so that there are no true dynasties anymore and most individual games are closely fought contests. This “balance” is supposed to generate even more fan excitement and interest (and, not incidentally get them spending even more of their hard earned money on NFL merchandise).

Unfortunately, there is one little problem that comes with parity, and that is the nature of the game itself, in which subjective penalties called by the referees in a tight contest—pass interference, holding and personal fouls in particular—can swing the results of an individual game one way or another and one bad call can negate the strenuous efforts of the players on the field. So here you have a league in which the quality of play has already been deliberately watered down, resulting in many close games in which the quality of the refereeing is already crucial to maintaining its integrity as an athletic competition, and what do those billionaire owners with the $20 billion television contract do?

Try to save a few paltry million dollars by locking out the regular referees and bringing in a bunch of incompetent scabs to replace them. There just could not be any more fitting metaphor for what the oligarchs who really run this country have been doing to the workers for the past 30 years with the complicity of the bought-and-paid for politicians.

billhicksisdead.blogspot

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-26   7:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2097. To: All (#2096)

Russia suspends import and use of American GM corn after study revealed cancer risk The European Food Safety Authority orders review in to the research, conducted at a French university Russia's decision could be followed by other nations Experts at the University of Caen conducted an experiment running for the full lives of rats - two years The findings found raised levels of breast cancer, liver and kidney damage The same trials also found minuscule amounts of a commonly used weedkiller, Roundup

Both the GM corn and Roundup are the creation of US biotech company Monsanto

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-26   7:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2098. To: All (#2097)

Market Manipulation

Class Warfare

Climate Change

Peak Oil

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-26   7:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2099. To: A K A Stone (#0)

LF's Core Constituency is dying off....;}

Life Spans Shrink for Least-Educated Whites in the U.S. By SABRINA TAVERNISE Published: September 20, 2012

NYT

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-26   9:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2100. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#760. To: All (#752)

Market Manipulation

Class Warfare....9/11

Climate Change

Peak Oil

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-09-27 7:58:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #761. To: All (#760)

Pattern of Life....not what you think.....;}

Agit Prop

Scott Pelley/CBS.

See Sniper Syria's Pentagon attacked....;}

Wolf: I think clearly this murder was premeditated. Just look at how sophisticated this was. This murder was timed to occur right after a terrorist attack and it clearly was a terrorist attack.

Your other guest expressed some question as to “why you would want to kill innocent people in front of a military base when you obviously can take the military base?”

Well, that is a terrorist attack. The purpose of it is to make a big splash in the news media and make it look like the Syrian military headquarters was actually attacked itself.

So the person who committed this crime did this right after a huge terrorist attack and knew that they could get away.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-09-27

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-27   8:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2101. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Remember way back in May when China was growing at 8% :!: :?: :roll:

Well, of course that was bull Scheiss.... :twisted:

3.bp.blogspot.com/-VGtSqE...00/SSEC%2B2012-09-26A.png

per MISH

globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-27   8:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2102. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#761. To: All (#760)

Pattern of Life....not what you think.....;}

Agit Prop

Scott Pelley/CBS.

See Sniper Syria's Pentagon attacked....;}

Wolf: I think clearly this murder was premeditated. Just look at how sophisticated this was. This murder was timed to occur right after a terrorist attack and it clearly was a terrorist attack.

Your other guest expressed some question as to “why you would want to kill innocent people in front of a military base when you obviously can take the military base?”

Well, that is a terrorist attack. The purpose of it is to make a big splash in the news media and make it look like the Syrian military headquarters was actually attacked itself.

So the person who committed this crime did this right after a huge terrorist attack and knew that they could get away.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-09-27 8:02:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #762. To: All (#752)

Iraq Prison Liberation.....no news

Spec Ops go back into Iraq....no news

The Imperial City Still has no idea what happened to kill Amb Stevens.

Spain Riots.....no news

USSA moves deeper into Depression....no news

Markets ignore reality.....no news

Arctic Ice disappears....no news

Drought worsens.....no news

Syria PressTV assassinated by sniper....no news

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-09-28 8:51:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-28   8:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2103. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The afghans are a mirror on USSA domestics....

"Mujahideen conquer district: 20 policemen captured, many others killed Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Saturday, 13 Dzulka'edah 1433 Saturday, 29 September 2012 16:00

BADAKHSHAN, Sept. 29 – There are reports from Badakhshan province that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate stormed the district building of Wardaj, Badakhshan province and its district police headquarter early on Saturday morning, triggering a deadly fighting that went on till the afternoon hours of the....

E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 14 Dzulka'edah 1433 Sunday, 30 September 2012 08:47 WRDAK, Sept. 30 – A clash is report to have broken out between the puppet troops and the US-Nato terrorists in the Afghanistan’s Wardak province on Saturday. According to the report unfolded in Tangi area, Syed Abad district of this province for the reasons which are still not determined at about 5:00 p.m. local time in which both the invaders and their minions troops used heavy and small arms ending up killing at least 7 local puppet soldiers of hireling army and 6 US-Nato invaders, whereas a dozens more from both sides were severely injured......"

Out by Xmas....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-30   9:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2104. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Imran Khalil E-mail Print PDF Monday, 15 Dzulka'edah 1433 Monday, 01 October 2012 11:14

imageWARDAK, Oct. 01 – Two days earlier, on Saturday a mutual conflict between the American invaders and the soldiers of hireling army, was reported in in Wardak’s Syed Abad district in which at least 6 US invading troops and 4 local soldiers of the puppet forces were killed.

According the sources, the fight erupted 0ver the Afghan’s soldiers’ objecting to the stops and frisks of Afghan women by the male American invading troops who kept insisting on conducting a frisk on two Afghan female among the other male passengers in the cab.

Frist, there was a verbal conflict, when the US terrorists still attempted to give s frisk of women, an Afghan soldier opened his gun on the US troops and shoot 6 invaders dead.

In exchange, the US opened fire on the Afghan soldiers, triggering a bloody fighting, killing some four Afghan soldiers, and wounding two others. A number of the US troops were reportedly wounded in the fighting.

A bit later, the outpost of the local ANA in the area was attacked and came under heavy airstrikes by the US invaders which was overrun and burned down.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-01   9:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2105. To: Capitalist Eric, A K A Stone (#0)

" But I don't mean to just deplore the situation. It is what it is, and we are at a certain juncture of history because of the choices we have made, and we'll have to see how the consequences roll out. Here's how I see some of them.

The Romney election fiasco will destroy the Republican Party, just as the Whig party fell apart in the last days of Millard Fillmore.

The religious nuts and Dixieland ignoranti will demand the expulsion of all non-extremists and Karl Rove will be left at the Nascar track with Honey Boo Boo on his lap and a dwindling "base" of shrieking microcephalics awaiting the second coming of Adolf Hitler in a green satin Mountain Dew race-day jumpsuit.

Respectable conservatives (they exist) will have to take their pleadings elsewhere, the venue or party yet-to-be determined, perhaps off-shore somewhere where the downtrodden sew blue jeans and counterfeit Louis Vuitton handbags. "

kunstler.com/blog/2012/09/in-full-flight.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-01   11:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2106. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Afghans mirror the Domestic.

The Complexity is coming apart at the seems and disintegrating.

Kunar is the Khyber Pass and Chinooks are like hen's teeth in the Afghans now.

Chinook helicopter shot down in Arghandab district Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Tuesday, 16 Dzulka'edah 1433 Tuesday, 02 October 2012 07:06

ZABUL, Oct. 02 – Officials reporting from Zabul province say that yesterday on the 1st of October, a Chinook helicopter of foreign troops was shot down by Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate early afternoon time near Arghandab district center as the enemy forces were leaving after carrying out a raid.

The helicopter caught fire in midair before violently crashing onto the ground and getting engulfed in flames, killing all the invaders and crew aboard, according to witnesses who add that the area was later cordoned off from public for an extended period while medical helicopters made multiple rounds removing the enemy corpses from site.

This incident comes as blatant lies were published by American Generals and officials claiming that only 2000 invaders have been killed in Afghanistan in the past decade. The invaders are notoriously known for either flat out denying incidents or deflating the number of their dead in order to keep the opinion of their public in favor of prolonging the invasion of Afghanistan."

Attack on joint enemy’s supper-secure base: 11 American invaders, 6 local minions killed

Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Monday, 15 Dzulka'edah 1433 Monday, 01 October 2012 17:33

KUNAR, Oct. 01 – Mujahideen officials from eastern Kunar 6 local puppet as well as 11 American terrorists were killed and 6 more got badly injured Monday when Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate attacked their forward operating base, a mega-secure base in the province’s Asmar district with heavy weapons. Mujahideen fired as 13 mortar rounds at the facility and took it under target with rocket and heavy machine guns for about an hour, set the facility on fire and damaging a number of tanks and vehicles inside the facility, the officials added."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-02   8:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2107. To: All (#2106)

Noticing ths AM that USSA MSMtv Talking heads look disheveled and dressed for a funeral....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-02   8:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2108. To: A K A Stone (#0)

[quote]Quote: 30. To: shirley u jest (#26)

Here's what I've been looking for:

Bob Weaver, below the lead on the ECTaskForce says SS Agent Craig Miller was in WTC7when it went down.

According to the BBC's running the Collapse of WTC7 30 min before it happened( ascertained by several other sources like "the building is coming down", "...about to blow") we know WTC7 was Control Demolished.

Special Agent Robert W Weaver of the New York Electronic Crimes Task Force – Statement to House Committee on Science, June 24th 2002

More info: www.sbq.com/sbq/wireless/sbq_wireless_disaster.pdf

[b] Weaver: "We lost Craig Miller, an employee that we still can’t find. His body has never been recovered. People here are still grief stricken." (first quarter, 2002)

Steve Carey – SS special agent in charge or recreating task force.

"When 7 World Trade Center came down on Sept. 11, an agent on loan from Washington, special officer Craig Miller, perished, and the entire Secret Service office was buried in that building. Yet, despite the devastation, the New York Electronic Crime Task Force has stepped up its operations in credit card fraud and for Osama Bin Laden's money"

www.ectaskforce.org/City_Leads_Way.pdf [link expired] [/b] [b] " One employee, Master Special Officer Craig Miller, died during the rescue efforts. Miller was temporarily assigned to New York in preparation for the United Nations General Assembly." www.ustreas.gov/usss/press/pub1202.pdf[/b]

"in selfless dedication to others, Master Special Officer Craig Miller was lost in the collapse of the World Trade Center."

www.house.gov/istook/rel-ss-customs.htm

See: libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...m=193171&Disp=43&Trace=on Back to top View user's profile Send private message Diane

Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 592 Location: New York City

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: Reply with quote It would be blatantly ridiculous for anyone to claim that WTC 7 was demolished, on the spur of the moment, for some beneficent reason like saving lives.

Rigging up a building with explosives takes longer than several hours and would have been extremely dangerous to do inside a burning building, so the explosives had to have been planted before 9/11. [/quote]

www.truthaction.org/forum...20bab33329917a95c59927323

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-02   10:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2109. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Ever hear about Georgia in the news?

Saakashvile suffers setback?

News for Saakashvili suffers setback

1. NEWS WATCH: Georgia President Suffers Setback in Elections BosNewsLife‎ - 1 day ago NEWS WATCH: Georgia President Suffers Setback in Elections. ... made clear that Georgian voters turned against Saakashvili and his United ...

Notice none of the USSAMSM organs are on record....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-03   7:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2110. To: mcgowanjm (#2109)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-03   14:57:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2111. To: A K A Stone (#0)

False Flag....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-04   8:32:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2112. To: A K A Stone (#2110) (Edited)

OMGFG....Obama fathered Two Black children....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-04   8:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2113. To: A K A Stone (#0)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M_-l1UF1jMk/UGy8zIPFdaI/AAAAAAAAR_I/5Az9ibB6Tz4/s400/Markit%2BFrance%2BComposite%2B2012-10-03.png

"Clearly, the Mekon had already decided this must be Damascus’s handiwork. What he doesn’t seem to have asked himself yet is why on earth the Syrian government would do such a thing. Turkey’s Recep Erdogan is a self-proclaimed ally of Iran, and Iran is an equally self-proclaimed ally of Syria. Besieged as he is by Sunnis, why would Bashar Assad want to alienate the only folks around who’d like to see him win?"

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-04   9:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2114. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Notice how

Andrea Mitchell: "Syria attacks Turkey!!!!"

happens the Day after this?

"Elections in Georgia: U.S. and NATO Lose their “Geopolitical Chess Queen”

If I'm Russia, I'm feeling pretty good right now.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-04   10:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2115. To: A K A Stone, All (#2111)

Title: Breaking news: New oil sheen near site of Deepwater Horizon disaster Source: Stuart H. Smith Date: Oct 3 2012

[...]

Experts had predicted such oil leaks would likely take place after the Deepwater Horizon rig was capped. That’s because the blocked oil continues to seek a path to the surface, and that could create fissures or cracks in the sea floor for the hydrocarbons to escape. This situation is exactly what we’d warned about in 2010 — that the rig diaster, caused by BP’s reckless and foolish actions, would continue to wreak havoc on the Gulf environment for years to come.

[...]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-04   10:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2116. To: A K A Stone, All (#2115)

Like we've been saying all along.....;}

"Title: In the tank? Feds scrub incident report about Gulf spill near BP rig Source: Stuart H. Smith Date: Oct 4 2012

[...]

Here’s what the initial report from NOAA’s Office of Response and Restoration said:

This hotline is being started for new reports of sheen of unknown origin in and near lease block Mississippi Canyon 252. This incident is likely related to reports in August 2011 (See incident #8345, Aug2011). Although the source of these sheens may be the wrecked BP Macondo Well, this relationship has not been established at this time. Activities include daily overflights sponsored by BP, with USCG or NOAA observers on board intermitently. BP is sending a vessel to the area with an ROV to investigate the potential source.

However, that report is no longer on the web site as of last night. Instead, this is what visitors see instead:

Incident #8510 does not exist, has been deleted, or you do not have permission to view it.

[...]

On one level, this is simply stunning. On the other hand, it’s in many ways typical of the way that the federal government has acted since Day One of the Deepwater Horizon disaster

[...]

It also may be a sign that the new oil spill at the Macondo site is more serious than the feds want to let on. Since breaking the news yesterday about NOAA’s original incident report, I’ve been investigating tips that vessels loaded with absorbent booms have been observed recently leaving the Breton Sound marine terminal at Hopedale, and that numerous fishermen who work the waters around the Macondo field have reported fresh sightings of the oil sheen.

[...]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-04   11:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2117. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Cars or Humans.....U Pic 'Em.... :twisted:

And That's only the First Decision of Many to come.

[quote] October 04, 2012 "Information Clearing House" - No matter whether Obama or Romney wins the coming presidential election, American working people will face a savage assault on their economic rights starting after the vote. The asset stripper Romney and his sidekick Ryan have openly demanded the shredding of the existing social safety net, while channeling the proceeds to parasitical bankers and hedge fund operators. Obama, using his usual method of deception, has signaled more discreetly his intention of using the hysteria around the alleged Fiscal Cliff to seal a Grand Bargain with the reactionary Republicans at the expense of the American people during the December lame duck session of Congress.

Austerity and Sacrifice Spell Genocide Against Americans [b] In reality, any demand for more austerity, sacrifice, or cuts in social services on the part of the American people amounts to a demand for genocide[/b] — a Nuremberg crime. Real unemployment is now in excess of 30 million people in the United States .

Over 50 million people are in the most extreme poverty, with no job, no unemployment benefits, no welfare system, no health care, and only a meager allotment of food stamps to stay alive.

And Republicans and Democrats agree that food stamps will be next to go! Other families are facing foreclosures by corrupt robo-judges and robo-signers, as the American middle class is crushed under $1 trillion of student loan debt and $1 trillion of high interest credit card debt. All of this follows a secular decline of almost two thirds in the American standard of living over the last four decades. [/quote]

Paul Craig Roberts

www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32654.htm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-06   9:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2118. To: All (#2117)

Will we invade South Africa.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-06   9:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2119. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Title: Things that make you go hmmmmm. Colorado blacks prefer Romney 58-40 in poll URL Source: www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2012/Gravis_CO_1006.pdf Post Date: 2012-10-06 15:17:08 by Mekons5 Keywords: None Views: 17 Comments: 1

That, of course, is ludicrous. You can see the tabs at the link. Scroll down to page 11. This goes way beyond sampling error. Way, way beyond.

Click for Full Text!

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#1. To: Mekons5 (#0)

The Latest NBC poll had Black Romney supporters at ZERO.

Which is how you know Polls are rigged .....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-10-07 9:39:14 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-07   9:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2120. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And California leads the way!

gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx

Highest eva....;}

You're now watching CA's economy crashing.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-08   8:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2121. To: A K A Stone (#0)

HAven't looked.

Just arrived this AM.

And I'm betting there's not

ONE

thread on

OIL/Gas Pricing......;}

LEt's see now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-09   8:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2122. To: All (#2121)

And why is this in Alt energy?

There is no Alt Energy.

See California gas prices for details.

Noting that this is the ONLY and as close as you get to talking

Gas Prices Today.

Don't Worry....You're not alone in not Wanting to....;}

http://gasbuddy.com/Gas_Prices/Oregon/index.aspx

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-09   8:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2123. To: All (#2122)

#790. To: All (#0)

$3.65

$4.65

$5.29

Watch California/Oregon closely now.

As the Black Market emerges....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-10-09 8:34:07 ET

"Sadly, the American media has reached the point where it has no more credibility than did Pravda in the old Soviet Union. The difference is that I would bet that many of Russians KNEW that the information they were getting was pure bullshit, whereas you cannot say the same thing about the average American today.

Bonus: "The powers that be...They like a tough game...No rules"

billhicksisdead blog

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-09   9:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2124. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Gail Tverberg: I see the future as fairly bleak. The big issue is the way high oil prices affect the economy, leading to recession, joblessness, and huge government deficits. The issue is really a lack of cheap oil.

This is an issue that can’t be expected to go away, even with new (high priced) oil supply in the US, or with the possibility of more natural gas supply. We are right now experiencing adverse financial impacts from high oil prices, but these impacts are being disguised by artificially low interest rates and huge amounts of deficit spending.

I find it hard to see much of a ray of hope for avoiding some kind of discontinuity, because the problem seems to be already at hand. For example, I see Europe’s current financial problems and the US’s fiscal cliff as being a direct result of lower energy affordability, especially oil, in recent years."

Gail Tverberg

http://peakoil.com/consumption/f...rview-with-gail-tverberg/

Understatement;}:

"It appears to me that we are now hitting some version of “Limits to Growth”. Most economists haven’t figured out the connection between the economy and the natural world, so are oblivious to our current predicament."

See California for Details....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-10   9:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2125. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

www.energybulletin.net/st...-%E2%80%9Cprofit%E2%80%9D

The only really profitable way to produce eggs and fried chicken is to do it on a very small, not-for-profit scale. The hen is a distributist. Distributism is an economic philosophy that gained much attention a century ago and is now drawing attention again. It champions the decentralization of the means of production into small, privately owned enterprises, not owned or run by the state or private wealthy oligarchs. It is neither capitalistic nor socialistic. It is chickenistic.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-11   10:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2126. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And a btw:

The Weekly Jobs Claims Number was Itself rigged.

Mish blew the whistle, when the BLS stated that a Large State had NOT submitted it's numbers.

The State was California:

The Number was....wait for it....30 000.

Which, when added to the LOW 337 000 number gives you the SAME numbers we've been getting for a while now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-12   9:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2127. To: A K A Stone (#0)

To: All

And then Alice fell into the hole.....;}

"

Not only was the WTC apparently designed by a servant of the bin Ladens and named for the Gladioists who killed Kennedy, it was provided with electronic security by a company based in Kuwait and largely owned by Marvin Bush, the President's brother.

You see, money goes both ways. Not only does known terrorist financier and one-time major investor in the Bank of Cocaine and Crooks International Khalid bin Mahfouz have a history as an investor in Bush businesses, specifically Dubya's Harken energy,

but the Bush family can also invest in Arab businesses. I hope the rumours about bin Mahfouz being ObL's half brother aren't true, or this could start to look sinister. Incriminating, one could almost say. At least it was quite a successful investment, unlike any investment in a company run by Dubya, in that this Kuwaiti company was successful enough to run the electronic security on 9/11 for not only the World Trade Centre,

but also for Dulles International Airport and for United Airlines, whose flight 11 was one of those to hit the World Trade Centre. Similar to the Israeli companies running CCTV on the targets of 7/7, which was found to have completely failed at Kings Cross only during the time the "bombers" were passing through, and which had failed on the underground and on both buses taken by the alleged bus bomber."

About as good a Summation as I've seen.

mcgowanjm posted on [Today]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-12   10:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2128. To: mcgowanjm (#2127)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-13   10:41:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2129. To: A K A Stone (#0)

It would be like Tunisia, Egypt and Syria, and, of course, that has not come true.

Instead of having the good sense to cut his losses and pull back, Erdogan is doubling down. He’s doing double-or-nothing; ‘vabonk’, as we say. He’s now gotten himself into this really terrible fix which, of course, could be potentially tragic for the world.

The idea that you’re going to interfere with a Russian cargo on a Syrian commercial airliner is really outside of the normal realm, and it makes Erdogan look like an unstable, erratic, mercurial kind of leader and not at all what he wanted to be.

Now, of course, he’s got a diplomatic row with Russia. The Russian foreign minister has called in the Turkish ambassador. They’ve demanded explanations. That’s a pretty tense scene going on there.

Webster Tarpley

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-14   8:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2130. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The plane was carrying a cargo sent by a legal Russian supplier in a legal way to a legal customer. This cargo included electrical equipment for a radar station, dual purpose equipment not prohibited by international conventions. Cargo documents have been fully issued in line with standard requirements.

 

It’s absolutely normal practice to transport this kind of cargo on civilian planes, and this is confirmed by the fact that *even before* the Syrian airplane entered Turkey’s airspace, the Turkish authorities suggested that it either change its course or land in Ankara. The pilot made a landing, since he knew that he was doing nothing illegal.

 

In conclusion, I will add that according to our data, the supplier will demand the return of the cargo, which is its property.

 

And finally, we expect an official explanation from the Turkish side as to why Turkey refused to grant Russian diplomats access to their fellow citizens aboard that plane.

Russian FM Lavrov

Don't fuck with the Russians..... :roll: :twisted:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-14   9:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2131. To: A K A Stone (#2128)

You got nothin'.

And abotion ain't changin'....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-14   9:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2132. To: mcgowanjm (#2131) (Edited)

You got nothin'.

And abotion ain't changin'....;}

Stone likes his abortionist better than your abortionist. His abortionist sends jobs to China, after his company's employees are forced to train their Chinese replacements.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-14   12:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2133. To: mininggold (#2132)

You a liar or stupid or both?

factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach/

But after reviewing numerous corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, contemporary news accounts, company histories and press releases, and the evidence offered by both the Obama and Romney campaigns, we found no evidence to support the claim that Romney — while he was still running Bain Capital — shipped American jobs overseas.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-14   14:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2134. To: A K A Stone (#2133)

But after reviewing numerous corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, contemporary news accounts, company histories and press releases, and the evidence offered by both the Obama and Romney campaigns, we found no evidence to support the claim that Romney — while he was still running Bain Capital — shipped American jobs overseas.

Are you saying that Romney was derelict in his fiduciary duties?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-14   16:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2135. To: mininggold (#2134)

Are you saying that Romney was derelict in his fiduciary duties?

That may be what you think his duties are after all you support an illegal alien for president. But what I am saying is that not only are you a liar but you are uninformed and a moron to boot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-14   17:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2136. To: mininggold (#2134)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-14   22:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2137. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Senator Magic Bullet is Dead.

If you don't get this one right, the rest won't make any sense....;}

alisonweir.org/journal/20...movement-for-justice.html

Most people are aware (but sometimes forget) that movements are almost always infiltrated by people who wish them to fail. Infiltrators are there to do two things: to monitor what is going on, and to interfere with its effectiveness. Such interference can take several routes. Among these are to promote ineffective, sometimes damaging actions -- such people are generally called 'agent provocateurs." The other way they interfere is to promote division. Like many people, I've long suspected that this is increasingly happening in the movement for

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-15   8:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2138. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#2133)

Loving how A K stays silent here until someone comes onto the thread....;}

alisonweir.org/journal/20...movement-for-justice.html

Most people are aware (but sometimes forget) that movements are almost always infiltrated by people who wish them to fail. Infiltrators are there to do two things: to monitor what is going on, and to interfere with its effectiveness. Such interference can take several routes. Among these are to promote ineffective, sometimes damaging actions -- such people are generally called 'agent provocateurs." The other way they interfere is to promote division. Like many people, I've long suspected that this is increasingly happening in the movement for

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-15   8:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2139. To: A K A Stone (#2135)

That may be what you think his duties are after all you support an illegal alien for president. But what I am saying is that not only are you a liar but you are uninformed and a moron to boot.

Here' hoping your abortionist sends your job overseas when he resumes the job he does best.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-15   11:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2140. To: mininggold (#2139) (Edited)

Oh nevermind.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-15   11:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2141. To: mininggold (#2139)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-16   10:51:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2142. To: A K A Stone (#2141)

Another obsession of the Tea Bagger mindset. No wonder you guys are manipulated like toys.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-16   11:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2143. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Between Now and Inauguration

Amerika will be crushed....

3.bp.blogspot.com/-NSpA8H...pP_kHg/s1600/121014-H.png

4.bp.blogspot.com/-LcPqqA...xGYWWM/s1600/121014-F.png

"Trending Strongly Lower"....understatement....;}

chartistfriendfrompittsburgh.blogspot.com

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-17   6:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2144. To: mininggold (#2142)

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-17   6:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2145. To: mcgowanjm (#2143)

An admission that Obama sucks green donkey something.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-17   6:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2146. To: mininggold (#2142)

Another obsession of the Tea Bagger mindset. No wonder you guys are manipulated like toys.

Rules for Leftards #54). In my mind this is a serious issue even though to everybody else it’s doesn’t exist ..

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2012-10-17   6:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2147. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

panzner.typepad.com/.a/6a...1e69e2017d3ca389c8970c-pi

The Top 6 Central Bank Balance Sheets are about to Collapse.

Sometime between now and Inauguration....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-17   7:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2148. To: A K A Stone (#2145)

An admission that Obama sucks green donkey something.

So your idea of History is that it starts

January '09.

You're going to be repeating your School Year.....alot....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-17   7:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2149. To: CZ82 (#2146)

Rules for Leftards #54). In my mind this is a serious issue even though to everybody else it’s doesn’t exist ..

Rule #1 for Fascists:

Communism for the Top 1%.

Free Markets for Everyone Else.

See Uzbeckistan Citizens Forced to Pick Cotton for Free for details...

And Today's Amerikan Debt Slaves:

" Today’s college graduates are often referred to as “indentured servants” because they are forced to fork over large parts of their salaries in wage garnishments to college debt collection agencies in return for the “work chit” of a degree. Tell me materially how this is different from traditional indentured servitude, where people were fined heavily for being transported to America, and then forced to work to pay back their sponsors for free. And of course, the laws protecting debtors have been stripped away, returning to an almost eighteenth-century mode of unforgivable debt and no limits to what can be done to collect it. We’ve even seen the backdoor return of debtor’s prisons. Others have noted the breakdown of what’s commonly referred to as “the rule of law” in financial matters and noted the creation of separate rules and standards of conduct for the rich as opposed to ordinary people. Of course we are all free to "choose" our jobs, just as we are free to be starving and homeless as those jobs disappear."

Future Cotton Picking Slaves of Amerika....;}

"

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-17   7:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2150. To: mininggold, CZ82 (#2142)

93% of this Central Bank Balance Sheet Expansion

has gone to the

Top 1%.

panzner.typepad.com/.a/6a...1e69e2017d3ca389c8970c-pi

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-17   8:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2151. To: All (#2150)

All around the world we are regressing. Welcome to capitalist “progress.” Uzbekistan is the future.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-17   8:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2152. To: mcgowanjm (#2151)

All around the world we are regressing. Welcome to capitalist “progress.” Uzbekistan is the future.

With guys like Romney leading the way.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-18   1:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2153. To: CZ82 (#2146)

Rules for Leftards #54). In my mind this is a serious issue even though to everybody else it’s doesn’t exist ..

You lose.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-18   1:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2154. To: mininggold, All (#2152)

What started out in Judea as a humble cult in thrall to the new idea of God-given grace, degenerated into a vile whoredom of concentrated wealth devoted to the routine infliction of cruelties.

Haaretz

Separation fence threatens to destroy farming, ecosystem around Jerusalem. According to the Nature and Parks Authority, establishment of the wall will change not only the landscape, but also the special pace of life of traditional farmers. By Zafrir ...

History is littered with Walls Ancien that today have lost all meaning.

The Israeli, Mexico/USSA Walls will be no different.

"We stand to lose a proportional amount of human capital accumulated over the past five hundred years as the benighted people of post-Roman Europe lost, and it may take us a thousand years or more to recover - if we recover at all. It's especially disturbing to see the infiltration of the latest version of Jesus mumbo-jumbo - Southern Republican Nascar Evangelical orthodoxy - take over the collective mind of the USA. "

-Kunstler

" In the United States, civil defense plans dating back to the Eisenhower administration were dusted off and activated. One of them mandated that the National Defense Highway System—better known as the nation’s freeways—be closed to civilian traffic. There were good practical reasons for that step, but nobody had thought about what would happen when millions of Americans tried to flee urban targets and found the freeways barricaded. On the first day of the crisis, most people were too stunned to do anything but follow the instructions that filled the media—stay put, seek cover, you are safer at home than out in the countryside—but the following night brought second thoughts. "

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...-part-three-to-brink.html

Still think ABORTION and SOCIALISM are BIG problems?

Keep Comin'....at least the Orangutans and Polar Bears will be better off.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-18   7:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2155. To: A K A Stone (#0)

People who:

1) Strap dogs to car roofs

2) Have Binders Full of Women

Intersect:

Serial Killers....and....W Mitt Romney

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-18   8:10:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2156. To: mcgowanjm (#2155) (Edited)

All narcissistic sociopaths, wth a touch of prima donna and perfumed prince. Can anyone look at Romney and not see a world class sissy?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-18   9:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2157. To: mininggold (#2156)

Can anyone look at Romney and not see a world class sissy?

Here is a real sissy pitching the baseball.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-18   10:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2158. To: A K A Stone (#2157)

GO CARDS

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-18   10:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2159. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Professor Daniel M. Abrams and his graduate student Mark J. Panaggio -- both right-handers -- are the first to use real-world data (from competitive sports) to test and confirm the hypothesis that social behavior is related to population-level handedness.

The results are published April 25 in The Journal of the Royal Society Interface.

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120425140457.htm

Forced to become a Lefty, the event changed my life forever....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-19   10:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2160. To: mcgowanjm (#2159)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-19   10:21:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2161. To: mcgowanjm, mininggold (#2159)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-19   22:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2162. To: mcgowanjm (#2159)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-20   16:18:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2163. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Corporations Are People [NSFW] Sarah Silverman Post Date: 2012-10-20 23:27:37 by nolu chan

www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...0&feature=player_embedded

Corporations Are People [NSFW] Sarah Silverman Published on Oct 18, 2012 by SchlepLabs In the third video of the Actually... series, Sarah Silverman and Lizz Winstead break down the difference between corporations and people. Mitt Romney thinks they are the same. When ...

Bill Maher Oct 19, 2012 "Mitt Romney Behind Closed Doors Talk about Women" Post Date: 2012-10-20 21:43:54 by nolu chan

Real Time With Bill Maher Episode 263 October 19, 2012 Mitt Romney behind closed doors Published on Oct 20, 2012 by vdffvdfb Click for Full Text!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-21   9:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2164. To: A K A Stone, All (#2163)

The ONLY way the Obamas, as bad as they are, get 'kicked' out of the WH,

is Election Fraud on behalf of the World's richest Man.....;}

See Car elevators for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-21   9:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2165. To: A K A Stone (#0)

[img]4.bp.blogspot.com/-KbAIJd...oney-Multiplier-10.11.png

Deflation picks up.

Will accelerate after Nov 5 to Xmas.

Good News. cash buys 'cheaper' gasoline/house.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-23   9:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2166. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I'm reading four brilliant people this AM.

Peak Oil is not being recognized for what it is.....;}

" *

In the general experience of humankind, there is little new here except insofar as America is in many ways a historically unique nation. Certainly for Americans this nation's failure is indeed new, and it has obviously been very hard for them to swallow. Speaking for myself, having grown up in the 1950's and 60's, I can say that nothing in my personal experience prepared me for the sort of America we have in 2012.

Being a historically unique nation, and the greatest military power the world has ever seen, America will no doubt (ultimately) fail uniquely and spectacularly.

The interesting questions now are when does all this end? How does it end? If we accept the premise that no meaningful change is possible, a premise which is supported by countless observations of what actually happens in America—nothing—we are forced to conclude that, sooner or later, America's story ends in tears for most of its citizens. On the other hand, America's manifest failure can probably go on for many years in its current form.

Beyond this point I don't want to go today. What I've said is already depressing enough."

peakwatch.typepad.com/decline_of_the_empire/

"Today’s massive Taliban truck-bomb explosion at a military base in Paktia province appears to have been only the latest such attack. "The new explosive is so destructive and powerful that the leadership council has been advised to prevent civilian casualties by

ordering the evacuation of all homes within 15 kilometers (roughly 10 miles) of U.S. and NATO bases," says a well-placed source in the Taliban’s military council for southern Afghanistan...

Note Not a Word on the Afghans lately.....nothing....sites are being jammed.

" the "liquid asset poor" With no cash reserves, they are just one paycheck away from financial ruin should an emergency or a job loss happen because they cannot easily access cash on a moment’s notice. Sadly, the CreditDonkey.com survey also found that more than half of respondents (54%) said they may be stuck in this situation for the foreseeable future. They have not set up an emergency cash savings strategy."

www.energybulletin.net/st...k-oil-crisis-the-end-game

Interest earnings on cash savings is basically zero.

Which means cash is basically infinitely valuable....;}

" The treaty, as it turned out, was surprisingly generous. No one had to admit fault or pay reparations; the United States simply had to accept the status quo in East Africa and assign its rights over Diego Garcia—which was owned by Great Britain anyway—to the Peoples Republic of China. Since the United States had no effective way to contest either demand, there was clearly no point in quibbling. The treaty was signed at the beginning of October, and ratified by a glum Congress three days later. "

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...n-part-four-crossing.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-25   7:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2167. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Sandy could stall of Long Island.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-25   10:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2168. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The USSA does not do evacs.

Sandy will stall over NYC.

And I don't even won't to see people asking for prayers.....;}

The Election will be rough.

10 million w/o AC for a week.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-26   7:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2169. To: All (#1)

Re: Sandy to be Retired

Post Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:26 am by mcgowanjm Saturday Week, Sandy will Still be somewhere between

Boston/West Virginia/Buffalo.

Foot + Snow.

Good News:

No Electronic Voting Machine Fraud.....just Paper Ballots and Counts..... 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-26   7:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2170. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Follow Following Unfollow Blocked Unblock Pending Cancel chad myers chad myers ‏@chadmyerscnn 8h

After 26 years in TV weather and 2 years with NOAA, #Sandy may pose the greatest risk to human life that I have seen. Pls keep up.

He said he spent 20 min on that tweet.

This will be the Sandy/Halloween/Election storm of the Century.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-26   8:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2171. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Post subject: Re: PostPosted:

Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:51 am

Offline

Category 5 Category 5 User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:01 pm Posts: 7698

Location: Ontario Canada

funster wrote:

Chad Myers is a met, not a journalist, so I think he was giving his honest opinion and not hyping Sandy. He says he spent 20 minutes working on that particular tweet. I agree, how was that tweet ridiculous? What is ridiculous is the lack of activity on here (yes, even in the middle of the night) for what could be a defining time in meteorological history. If everyone knew the 1993 Storm of the Century was going to happen again in 4 days, you would think people would be flying off the rails non-stop. We might have something even worse and nothing!?! On a side note, how do you spend 20 minutes on 140 characters? :lol:

And I don't Even want to here about Jesus and prayers for Sandy to hit somewhere else.

This is what the Planet does....Move!....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-26   8:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2172. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Couple of quick thoughts:

For those with gasoline generators, 10-15 gallons really isn't enough. That may only last a day or two. You should probably consider 30-40 gallons at least on the possibility gas stations may not have power to pump from their tanks.

For those with gas stoves, most use some sort of electronic/spark ignition which won't work without power. Have butane wand type lighters on hand.

750 W power inverters at Sam's.

You will be quarantined. Out to where Electricity is available.

NatGuards are moving now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-26   8:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2173. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Post subject: Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:08 am Offline Professional-Met Professional-Met

Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:23 pm

Posts: 2617 Location: Ozone Park, Queens, NYC

The 00Z (8PM EDT)

runs of the major global models have really consolidated not only on a target area but on a target time. Up until now they were pretty divergent on landfall time. Now all of them have somewhere just south of New York City near 8PM on Monday evening (2012-10-30 00z). That is the worst possible outcome for the Jersey shore, NYC and Long Island as far as coastal surge damage is concerned, especially due to the long period of onshore winds and rising water that will occur before Sandy gets onshore. Just terrible if this plays out.

www.ral.ucar.edu/hurrican...012102706_track_early.png

http://flhurricane.com/images/2012/clark18latest.png

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-27   7:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2174. To: All (#2173)

Sandy will hit just S of NYC.

Stall in Pennsylvania and loop back to Maryland and DC.

168 hrs from now, what's left will head out to Nova Scotia.....

20 million w/o AC for 7 days +

2 ft snow WV to Cleveland (lake effect) and Buffalo.

Atlanta record cold.

Disaster Capitalism/ Shock Doctrine/Quarantine to Areas with Electricity.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-27   7:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2175. To: A K A Stone (#0)

If this hits....there are no words....

except Civilization v Entropy.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-27   11:00:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2176. To: mcgowanjm (#2175)

If it hits on election day democrats stay home.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-27   11:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2177. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#12. To: Robin (#11)

Gettin' outta Dodge seems like a good idea to me too, but is probably not possible for everyone.

but is probably not possible for everyone.

Those are Always the victims.

'We could not afford to leave.'

But if you have nothing, then you should be the First Ones out.

A paradox....;}

Jesus to New Saint on why he did not help with the Flood:

'I sent you a Deputy Sheriff in a car, then a boat, then a Helo.'....;} then

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-28   7:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2178. To: A K A Stone (#2176)

If it hits on election day democrats stay home.

If it Lasts Til election day democrats & republicans stay home.

FIFY

GOOD NEWS

No Electricity No Rigged Machines....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-28   7:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2179. To: mcgowanjm (#2178)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-28   9:50:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2180. To: mcgowanjm (#2172)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-28   10:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2181. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Sandy's storm surge a huge threat This afternoon's 3:30 pm EDT H*Wind analysis from NOAA's Hurricane Research Division put the destructive potential of Sandy's winds at a modest 2.8 on a scale of 0 to 6. However, the destructive potential of the storm surge was record high: 5.8 on a scale of 0 to 6. This is a higher destructive potential than any hurricane observed since 1969, including Category 5 storms like Katrina, Rita, Wilma, Camille, and Andrew.

-Jeff Masters

If you have a barometer at home, take a look at it - it doesn't go that low. If that occurs, this storm will bring the lowest barometric pressure ever recorded on the East Coast.

http://funhouserock.com/funhouse...ng-upstairs-with-the-belt

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-28   21:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2182. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#839. To: Robin, All (#0)

Haven't looked.

Wonder how many articles you have on Sandy this AM.

If they outnumber the ToBePOTUS articles yet.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-10-29 8:22:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #840. To: All (#839)

JFC....;}

Not one.

That was from TPF. LF has one....betting it's Brian S.

Betting Zero to One Replies...let's see.....;}

The Perfect Storm.

NE of Kentucky to Maine and South to Norfolk.

Your World will not be the same the Wednesday after the 'Election'.....

and it won't be because you know who your new POTUS is.....;}

[quote="roccman"]http://www.oilcrash.com/articles/arnett05.htm

Perry nailed it several years ago.

I set my clock to the linked article...and I am glad I did.

You way want to grab something cold to drink - or something hot to smoke before embarking.

Of everything I have read since my own awakening in 2003 - THIS is THE seminole document.[/quote]

You. Are. Here......^ :twisted:

Saturday, Sandy will be in Northern New York. Might not make it out of the US before it exits thru Maine.

The Area N and E of the Kentucky border to Nova Scotia will not be the same.

[b] MaryEllen71 wrote: terstorm1012 wrote: Just watched a report on NBC New York: No one in the Rockaways apparently left.

They feel they got burned with Irene and they don't want to leave now. Sad.

did the Rockaways flood during the '62 nor'easter? That's the benchmark I've been using.

From I've seen on other forums that people in NYC are not taking this serious and that its going to be another Irene.[/b]

This post in reply to the No one Predicted this post of RandomChaos.....

[quote]mcgowanmc Weather Hobbyist

Reged: Aug 17 2008 Posts: 91 Loc: NW ARKANSAS Re: Dodge MA and NH? [Re: Random Chaos] #94187 - Mon Oct 29 2012 07:46 AM Edit post Edit Reply to this post Reply Reply to this post Quote Quick Reply Quick Reply

me. I did.

KWT wrote: Pressure down to 941mbs now, looks like Sandy is indeed strengthening, and looking at it, its still tropical strengthening as well as convection is deepening again.

Recalling those earlier Euro forecast landfall pressures ...932mb, no way, now perhaps way :eek:

There are no analog storms. This has not happened in Measured History.

Tuesday Last: Sandy Stalls in NY. The Perfect Storm.

And no one has evac'ed. Why should they when they've been burned so many times, they don't have $500 in the bank and NOAA's infighting on who's in charge.

Note no Warning/Watch areas as the 941 and dropping Sandy sets up over Penn/NY until Saturday.

GCANE wrote: Cutoff low has formed west of Sandy

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanaly ... 1505626973

What does that mean for Sandy and the impact? Personal Forecast Disclaimer: The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

Models most likely accounted for this already.

Will give Sandy a Fujiwhara spin - causing Sandy and the Cutoff Low to circulate CCW around each other.

This is what will draw Sandy NW into the coast. [/quote]

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-10-29 8:24:31 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-29   8:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2183. To: A K A Stone (#0)

From 9/11 to Sandy....the Plateau.

New Orleans to New York:

Welcome to Our World.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   9:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2184. To: A K A Stone (#0)

BreadAndButter October 31, 2012 at 1:33 am Log in to Reply

"Offsite power at the plant is in the process of being restored. [...]" Oh that's good /sarc

I hate how they want everyone to think that a "shut down" reactor poses no risk. Not a word about required cooling etc. It makes me want to call / write everytime. I'd be busy fulltime.

Report Comment

* Max1 Max1 October 31, 2012 at 2:30 am Log in to Reply

A coworker of mine just HAD to tell me that, "Thank goodness they shut down at least five NPP's…"

Once I began, once again, explain to her HOW the stored fuel requires cooling and that even that process is sketchy because of clogged vents and lack of generators she feigned ignorance, "Well I don't know about that. All I know is what they (sic) report."

I nodded and went on my way only parting with, "Correct. You only know what they want you to know. Too bad they don't cover the basic science behind nuclear… Because then, you might just know more than what they want you to know."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   9:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2185. To: A K A Stone, Brian S, All (#0)

http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/html/2012b/pr376-12-static.html

"President Obama asked Craig Fugate from FEMA to call me earlier in the day and offer any help. I assured him that we had, we think, everything under control but we appreciate the effort. What FEMA really can do is to help those parts of the country that don't have all of the extensive facilities and agencies and practice that New York City does. But I did want to thank them for their offer."

And THAT was a serious bridge burning right there, brian.....;}

Anytime you want to make up. I'm here for ya.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   12:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2186. To: All (#2185)

And just to make sure I get these links in here:

bp was lying from Day 1 of the USSAbpEcocide.....just like us Dirty Fuckin Hippies said:

Subsequently petroleum industry geohazards engineer BK Lim claimed there were 3 leaking wells.

Friday, the government released new underwater video showing 3 wellheads at or near the Macondo reservoir:

* ROV Video of Well Head 1

* ROV Video of Well Head 2

* ROV Video of Well Head 3

These are not 3 different videos of the same wellhead. As the Coast Guard comments themselves state, and as apparent on the information contained on the videos themselves, these are 3 different wellheads in the Macondo 252 prospect.

We sent the new videos to Dr. Bea and asked him if the Deepwater Horizon Study Group knew there was more than one wellhead at the Macondo site.

Bea told us:

The Deepwater Horizon Study Group was aware of two well heads … not three.

For the DHSG, BK Lim – with a background in Gulf coast geology and petroleum engineering – (see internet links below) was the person who originally started chasing the multiple well heads after he obtained the GPS coordinates and checked with the well permit documents.

During 2010, neither BP nor the USCG would confirm there was more than one well head location.

It would be good if someone with GPS – GIS capabilities could develop a lease map that shows the three well head locations. A similar map is needed to locate all of the hardware that has been left on the sea floor in that area. I would hope that someone with the Department of the Interior’s Bureau of Ocean Energy Management would have developed this information.

bklim.newsvine.com/_news/...isastrous-beyond-patch-up

bklim.newsvine.com/_news/...stration-that-says-it-all

Postscript: None of the new videos of the 3 wellheads show leaking oil. But BP’s explanation for the new miles-long oil sheen makes no sense (and see this), and other explanations may make more sense.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   12:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2187. To: mcgowanjm, all (#2185)

Alright you finally found it and I stand corrected.

Carry on...

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-10-31   12:56:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2188. To: A K A Stone (#0)

NEW YORK, 31 October 2012 (The Onion) – Following Hurricane Sandy’s destructive tear through the Northeast this week, the nation’s 300 million citizens looked upon the trail of devastation and fully realized, for the first time, that this is just going to be something that happens from now on.

www.desdemonadespair.net/

That I'm having to get headline news from The Onion..............;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   8:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2189. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And watch.

Like pushing a patient out of an ICU before s/he's ready.

A previous slight, puts the patient back in remission or worse.

And speaking of useless...

Anything over 10 stories is useless or worse.

“Oh, I see—this is just going to be how it is from here on out,” said New York City resident Brian Marcello, coming to terms with the fact that an immense storm that cripples mass transit systems and knocks out power for millions in the nation’s largest metropolitan area can no longer be regarded as an isolated, freak incident, and will henceforth be just a normal thing that happens. “Hugely destructive weather events are going to keep happening, and they are going to get worse and worse, and living through them is something that will be a part of all our lives from now on, whether we like it or not.” :roll:

The Onion

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   8:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2190. To: Brian S, All (#2187)

Alright you finally found it and I stand corrected.

Carry on...

Why thank you, Brian.

finally.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   8:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2191. To: A K A Stone (#0)

You folks realize how long the list of subjects is that you're feaverishly ignoring....dontcha....;}

No blog or conspiracy theorist could conjure up a more ironic scenario than a hurricane that works its way all the way up the East Coast and deposits its greatest impact on downtown Manhattan aka. The Financial District aka. Wall Street.

Like all things in the Idiocracy, this fetish with denying Climate Change is just another case of the 400 pound society unwilling to make difficult choices, starting with facing reality. Despite overwhelming scientific evidence and overwhelming consensus among non-industry stooge scientists, society at large has convinced itself that belief in climate reality is just another choice to be made.

www.tuberose.com/NuclearPowerPlantFailure.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   21:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2192. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I am Unconvinced by most of the material coming in from the MSM on how the major Conduits are functioning at the moment. The rapid loss of fuel through the Nabe suggests to me that some conduits are in terminal failure mode. Also the fact this has been turned over to the Military to handle is very significant.

Gotta watch it close.

RE

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-04   9:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2193. To: A K A Stone, All (#2188)

NEW YORK, 31 October 2012 (The Onion) – Following Hurricane Sandy’s destructive tear through the Northeast this week, the nation’s 300 million citizens looked upon the trail of devastation and fully realized, for the first time, that this is just going to be something that happens from now on.

Heat seekers: As temperatures begin to drop, people wait in line to fill containers with gas at a Shell filling station in Keyport, N.J.

The BIGGEST and MOST OBVIOUS LIE is that these folks are going the get the NY Shity Subway System and Tunnels that connect Wall Street to Long Island, the Mainland in New Jersey and Upper Manhattan back into service inside a couple of weeks. This is so ludicrous a claim it is astonishing, first that they make it, and second that anybody really believes this.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-04   10:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2194. To: A K A Stone (#0)

OK, here's the Plan:

Pump 20' of water, the area of NOLA up 5 stories from Below Sea Level.

Then flush the salt with fresh water.

Then replace all electronics.

That no factory exists that makes said replacements that will mesh( think Windows8 meshing with DOS OP) will be remedied by building said factory.

Meanwhile all 5 + Million Daily Commuters will find some other way to get across the water.

Problem Solved.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-05   8:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2195. To: A K A Stone (#0)

BUWAHAHAHAHA

"The U.S. electoral system, Russian elections chief Vladimir Churov declared this week, “is the worst in the world.”

"The Foreign Ministry this week accused America of hypocrisy following reports that some U.S. states would turn away international election monitors at the polls."

thehill.com/blogs/global-...ic-the-worst-in-the-world

welcome to the Third World....;}....serf.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-05   10:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2196. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Only Group to benefit from Sep 11 Benghazi:

www.bluemountaingroup.co.uk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-06   8:53:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2197. To: A K A Stone (#0)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LQIPrF...GOVj58/s1600/121108-D.png

For as long as we can all remember, preppers and survivalists have been derided by the mainstream media, labeled "kooks" and "wing nuts" for stockpiling food, water, ammunition, medical supplies and emergency gear. Only paranoid conspiracy theorists engage in evil preparedness activities, we were told by the sellout mainstream media, and they've convinced many that preppers may even be terrorists.

The very word "stockpiling" has been used in a derogatory manner, as if it's somehow bad for private citizens to stockpile food, medicine and emergency supplies that might save lives in a crisis. Never mind that the government stockpiles all these things for its own survival; citizens are routinely taught that stockpiling is bad!

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/03782...alists.html#ixzz2BdcurMzF

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-08   8:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2198. To: mcgowanjm (#2197)

Is stockpiling bad?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   8:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2199. To: A K A Stone (#2198)

Is stockpiling bad?

Depends.

Are you the Gov't?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-08   12:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2200. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Gas Rationing.

Once you get that 'air bubble' in the pump/pipeline you lose the vacuum.

The only way to get the 'vacuum' back is to shut down the system. and 'bleed it'.

Or, to switch analogies, you can do what NYC's doin' now:

Trying to change the tire while simultaneously rolling down the road.... :twisted: :roll: 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-09   9:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2201. To: A K A Stone (#0)

2012 Election Model Post-Mortem: Exactly right at 332 EV

But Obama did much better than that, just as he did much better than his 365 EV in 2008.

The recorded result was confirmed in the model. Obama had 332 electoral votes based on the recorded vote total – not the True Vote.

Obama was able once again to overcome the built-in FRAUD FACTOR, which would be reflected by a red-shift in the UNADJUSTED EXIT POLLS. But to paraphrase what Alec Baldwin told the real-estate salesmen in the famous opening scene of the classic film Glen Garry Glen Ross: “These are the unadjusted exit polls. They are gold – but you don’t get them. They’re for NEP only”.

The red-shift did not go away. We do not have the unadjusted exit polls.

richardcharnin.wordpress.com/

Doubt this?

Have you even heard the phrase:

Unadjusted Exit Poll yet in this Election?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-09   10:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2202. To: All (#2201)

The GOPers could not steal any more without out and out violence.

And if they keep their current attitude, that's what we'll be seeing next sElection....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-09   10:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2203. To: All (#1) (Edited)

www.theoilage.com/post65840.html#p65840

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-10   12:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2204. To: mcgowanjm (#2203)

And the USSA is readying an Invasion of Mali/Nigernow

I heard something about that two weekends ago from someone in the know.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-10   12:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2205. To: mcgowanjm (#2203)

Post #2204 and still moving. How ya doing?

"Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.) Psalm 139:16

redleghunter  posted on  2012-11-10   13:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2206. To: A K A Stone (#0)

You can't make sense out of 091112 in Benghazi w/o understanding

Syria/Lebanon

and now

Petraeus. And this:

Lockheed CEO-in-Waiting Forced Out Over 'Relationship'

Heads Are Rolling.

Something as Big as Regime Change, and NOT in our FAVOR was IN PLAY.

On the Level of MacArthur/Truman

Tigerdroppings.com "General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command."

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-11-10 13:19:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #26. To: All (#25)

The Tip Off

Both News Items released Simultaneously at 4 PM Eastern.

EXACTLY just too late to make the PM News Cycle and into the Weekend of No news....;}

#

2.

# CIA Director Petraeus resigns, admits extra-marital ... - Yahoo! News news.yahoo.com/cia-direct...-intelligence-official-... You +1'd this publicly. Undo 19 hours ago – News: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - CIA Director David Petraeus resigned as head ... Full Story »CIA Director Petraeus quits over extramarital affair ..... the incoming chief executive of Lockheed Martin, resigned on Friday after he ... Get more results from the past 24 hours

Incoming Lockheed CEO fired after admitting to affair - Yahoo! News news.yahoo.com/incoming-l...ed-admits-affair-000110... You +1'd this publicly. Undo 16 hours ago – News: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lockheed Martin Corp on Friday fired its ... CIA Director David Petraeus resigns because of extramarital affair ...

The Night of the Long Knives

THIS is what Foreign Policy Epic Fail looks like.

Heads Rolling from Syria to Lebanon to Europe to Libya to the Imperial Capitol.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-10   13:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2207. To: Fred Mertz (#2204)

Africa's in play now.

You can't make sense out of 091112 in Benghazi w/o understanding

Syria/Lebanon

and now

Petraeus. And this:

Lockheed CEO-in-Waiting Forced Out Over 'Relationship'

Heads Are Rolling.

Something as Big as Regime Change, and NOT in our FAVOR was IN PLAY.

On the Level of MacArthur/Truman

Tigerdroppings.com "General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command."

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-11-10 13:19:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #26. To: All (#25)

The Tip Off

Both News Items released Simultaneously at 4 PM Eastern.

EXACTLY just too late to make the PM News Cycle and into the Weekend of No news....;}

#

2.

# CIA Director Petraeus resigns, admits extra-marital ... - Yahoo! News news.yahoo.com/cia-direct...-intelligence-official-... You +1'd this publicly. Undo 19 hours ago – News: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - CIA Director David Petraeus resigned as head ... Full Story »CIA Director Petraeus quits over extramarital affair ..... the incoming chief executive of Lockheed Martin, resigned on Friday after he ... Get more results from the past 24 hours

Incoming Lockheed CEO fired after admitting to affair - Yahoo! News news.yahoo.com/incoming-l...ed-admits-affair-000110... You +1'd this publicly. Undo 16 hours ago – News: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lockheed Martin Corp on Friday fired its ... CIA Director David Petraeus resigns because of extramarital affair ...

The Night of the Long Knives

THIS is what Foreign Policy Epic Fail looks like.

Heads Rolling from Syria to Lebanon to Europe to Libya to the Imperial Capitol.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-10   13:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2208. To: Fred Mertz (#2204)

And the USSA is readying an Invasion of Mali/Nigernow

Our Carriers are useless here.

Read this on Coming Attractions:

All 5 Essays....you won't be sorry....;}

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2012_10_01_archive.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-10   13:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2209. To: redleghunter (#2205)

Post #2204 and still moving. How ya doing?

Give me some info on Petraeus, General Carter Ham, and MANPADS.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-10   13:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2210. To: mcgowanjm (#2209)

Ah, I see you are putting together a puzzle that includes dealing with Jihadists Turkey bound with a connecting flight to Syria? Yes what WAS abassador Stevens doing at the "consulate" on that day? Why did he meet with Turkey's ambassador? Some good questions not asked yet huh?

"Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.) Psalm 139:16

redleghunter  posted on  2012-11-10   13:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2211. To: A K A Stone (#0)

lsuroadie LSU Fan South LA Member since Oct 2007 2556 posts

re: Petraeus resigned over an affair? lulz (Posted on 11/11/12 at 6:27 a.m. to The Analyst)

And the resignation was uncovered JUST after the election. Riiiiiiggghhhhtttt.

And the FBI just came to this conclusion on election night. Riiiiiggggghhhhttt.

Patraeus and Broadwell were together in Afghanistan for a year and no one knew of the affair. Rriiiiigggghhhtttt.

And he was asked to resign just before his testimony on Benghazi . Rrrriiiiiiigggggghhhhttttt"

If there was an Attempted Coup v the POTUS, and it failed, what do you think the Aftermath would look like?

Remember that at one time last year, Petraeus was being put up as a Serious POTUS Candidate.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-11   8:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2212. To: redleghunter (#2210)

3 Generals/Admirals/Fleet/Corp/CIA Head Commanders sacked......

plus the Soon to Be CEO of the USSA's largest defense Contractor Lockheed Martin.....

lsuroadie LSU Fan South LA Member since Oct 2007 2556 posts

re: Petraeus resigned over an affair? lulz (Posted on 11/11/12 at 6:27 a.m. to The Analyst)

And the resignation was uncovered JUST after the election. Riiiiiiggghhhhtttt.

And the FBI just came to this conclusion on election night. Riiiiiggggghhhhttt.

Patraeus and Broadwell were together in Afghanistan for a year and no one knew of the affair. Rriiiiigggghhhtttt.

And he was asked to resign just before his testimony on Benghazi . Rrrriiiiiiigggggghhhhttttt"

If there was an Attempted Coup v the POTUS, and it failed, what do you think the Aftermath would look like?

Remember that at one time last year, Petraeus was being put up as a Serious POTUS Candidate.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-11   8:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2213. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Mininggold, hondo88, All (#0)

Petraeus...arguably The Architect of the War of Terror and ....wait for it.....

Not. One. Post. Here at LF.

You guys waiting to get the word from on High or what!?

LMFAO

ALL IN

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-11   9:57:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2214. To: mcgowanjm (#2213) (Edited)

hondo88

Thanks for the promotion to a higher pay grade!

Now get your lazy azz in gear and post something about Petraeus. Is Herbie Bush coming back as CIA chief again?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-11-11   10:44:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2215. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Amazing.

Your Architect of the War of Terror since 2005.

Lauded as One of the Greatest Generals of our time.

Summarily dismissed with dishonor......

and

Wait for it......

Nothing....not a peep....not a sound......;}

How many affairs did JFK have, for example, that were never publicized.

Is there a High Ranking Imperial Servant that doesn't have an affair?

4 high ranking military officers done away within two weeks...

Petraeus Gaouette Sinclair Ham

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-12   7:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2216. To: hondo68 (#2214)

You've just witnessed a Coup or CounterCoup.

U Pic Em......;}

or Both........

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-12   7:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2217. To: mcgowanjm (#2213)

You gotta love photoshop:)

"Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.) Psalm 139:16

redleghunter  posted on  2012-11-12   16:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2218. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#2212)

Maybe things are finally coming to pass. Enjoy! Jim Mac don't be little Bobby!

"Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.) Psalm 139:16

redleghunter  posted on  2012-11-12   17:26:42 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2219. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, mininggold, hondo88, All (#0)

ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT (Reuters) - The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, General John Allen, is under investigation for alleged inappropriate communication with a woman at the center of the scandal involving former CIA Director David Petraeus, a senior U.S. defense official said on Tuesday.

The revelation threatens to fell another of the U.S. military's biggest names and suggests that the scandal involving Petraeus - a retired four-star general who had Allen's job in Afghanistan before moving to the CIA last year - could expand.

ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT (Reuters)

WTF!!!???

Anyone Ever Seen a Dateline like that!?

Petraeus CounterCoup Underway.

War of Terror/War for the Jews over.

NEWS.com.au

1. Peres says Israel wants no part of Syrian war 12NewsNow.Com ‎- 17 hours ago Israeli President Shimon Peres played down his nation's response to the mortars from Syria that hit the Golan Heights, territory Israel has ...

Israel to USSA: Message Received....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-13   7:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2220. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And Thanx Nolu!!!!

There it is:

US Dept of Defense IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 889-12 November 12, 2012

The President has nominated General Joseph Dunford, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps, to succeed General Allen at ISAF.

#7. To: nolu chan (#0) So how is Allen able to keep his job but Petraeus loses his?

Disgraced Petraeus too busy with affair fallout to give evidence in Benghazi inquiry Republicans demand General attends inquiry on Benghazi killings as he handles affair fallout

www.independent.co.uk/new...hazi-inquiry-8307345.html

Now we know. Gen Allen added to list:

Petraeus

Darlak

Ham

Sinclair

Gaoette

Note UK paper of record keeping USSA citizens informed....;}

Petraeus Counter Coup underway. War of Terror/War for the Jews over.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-13   8:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2221. To: redleghunter (#2218)

Anyone of these Petraeus guys your Butt buddy?

LMFAO

And Thanx Nolu!!!!

There it is:

US Dept of Defense IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 889-12 November 12, 2012

The President has nominated General Joseph Dunford, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps, to succeed General Allen at ISAF.

#7. To: nolu chan (#0) So how is Allen able to keep his job but Petraeus loses his?

Disgraced Petraeus too busy with affair fallout to give evidence in Benghazi inquiry Republicans demand General attends inquiry on Benghazi killings as he handles affair fallout

www.independent.co.uk/new...hazi-inquiry-8307345.html

Now we know. Gen Allen added to list:

Petraeus

Darlak

Ham

Sinclair

Gaoette

Note UK paper of record keeping USSA citizens informed....;}

Petraeus Counter Coup underway. War of Terror/War for the Jews over.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-13   8:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2222. To: mcgowanjm (#2221)

The main story to crack are guns to Jihadists in Libya, then flying them to Turkey with a follow-on to Syria. That is the real cover up and why we are getting a sex scandal. Sex scandals sell well in the lame stream media.

"Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.) Psalm 139:16

redleghunter  posted on  2012-11-13   12:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2223. To: All (#1)

general john allen commander darlak general sinclair admiral Gaoette carter ham james petraeus jack wheeler nuclear

You have any idea how hard the USSAMSM is trying not to talk about these People?

http://NavyTimes.com reports that, "Vice Admiral John Miller, commander Naval Forces Central Command, made the decision to reassign the commander of Carrier Strike Group 3, even though it's deployed to the Middle East."

NBC News interviewed Neal Zerbe, a retired Navy Captain, who says, "The particular commander being relieved, and you know translating that to just moving him back to a continental U.S. base while the investigation continues, is unlike anything I've ever seen before."

The Stennis group deployed from Bremerton in late August and had entered the Navy 5th Fleet's area of operations in the Middle East on October 17.

It deployed four months earlier than scheduled. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta visited the Stennis and its sailors in Bremerton shortly before they departed. He thanked them for accelerating their deployment on short notice.

And I still can’t help but wonder why Petraeus resigned after knowing that he had been exonerated and that Broadwell had too? Seems that Clapper didn’t buy that s**t and told him to resign. Wonder what Clapper knew that we haven’t been told yet.

In the meantime, the Israel-firsters who run Congress are hollering and screaming about how they should have been informed by the FBI long ago about the investigation and they are screaming for heads to roll at the FBI.

Let me get this straight: The FBI can harass the s**t out of Muslim-Americans for no reason at all and set some retarded American Muslims up as terrorist scapegoats, but that’s okay. But not telling Peter King about an investigation into Broadwell’s shenanigans when it was still in its early stages is unacceptable?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-13   20:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2224. To: mcgowanjm (#2213)

LMFAO

ALL IN

Funny graphic! You do see that Petraeus' image is reversed - see his name tag for instance.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-13   21:17:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2225. To: Fred Mertz (#2224)

WHOA.....8D....His Image is Reversed....No shit.....

Thanx 8D

Eric Cantor's sudden appearance is peculiar. I'm not sure what it is yet. And, we are likely never to really know.

Easy. When Congress says it should've been told of the Investigation earlier?

Read This:

Israel says it should've been told of the Investigation earlier......;}

Eric Cantor is THE Israeli Firster...watch this google:

Glenn Greenwald stands by “Israel-Firsters” smear in column ... legalinsurrection.com/......rael-firsters-sm...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo 1 vote Dec 14, 2011 – Greenwald also has applied the concept of Israel-Firster, if not the term itself, to Eric Cantor (R-VA), who he accused of pledging allegiance to ...

Congressman Eric Cantor: America is never First | Veterans Today www.veteranstoday.com/......-america-is-neve...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 6, 2011 – For sure Congressman Eric Cantor chose to represent Tel-Aviv not Richmond, Virginia. Putting Israel not America first is an insult to all the ... # Israel First Eric Cantor's Pledge of Allegiance america-hijacked.com/2010...edge-of-allegiance/Cached

Nov 15, 2010 – Soon-to-be GOP House Majority Leader Eric Cantor met on Wednesday with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu – and vowed that he ...

Eric Cantor's World | Politics beforeitsnews.com/politic...-world-2464896.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Oct 24, 2012 – House Majority Leader and Israel-Firster, Eric Cantor (Likud, Va), tells us what is most important to him when it comes to US foreign policy.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-13   21:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2226. To: redleghunter (#2222)

The main story to crack are guns to Jihadists in Libya, then flying them to Turkey with a follow-on to Syria. That is the real cover up and why we are getting a sex scandal. Sex scandals sell well in the lame stream media.

CIA got caught running a prison.

The POW's peeps did a jail break.

Obama and Petraeus and these guys:

general john allen commander darlak general sinclair admiral Gaoette General carter ham CIA Director james petraeus jack wheeler nuclear

Disagree on what happens next.....;}

Coup.....Counter Coup....

NavyTimes.com reports that, "Vice Admiral John Miller, commander Naval Forces Central Command, made the decision to reassign the commander of Carrier Strike Group 3, even though it's deployed to the Middle East."

NBC News interviewed Neal Zerbe, a retired Navy Captain, who says, "The particular commander being relieved, and you know translating that to just moving him back to a continental U.S. base while the investigation continues, is unlike anything I've ever seen before."

The Stennis group deployed from Bremerton in late August and had entered the Navy 5th Fleet's area of operations in the Middle East on October 17.

It deployed four months earlier than scheduled. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta visited the Stennis and its sailors in Bremerton shortly before they departed. He thanked them for accelerating their deployment on short notice.

"is unlike anything I've ever seen before."

Got that right.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-13   21:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2227. To: All (#2226)

Awfully Quiet in here......BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....8D

Centcom chief Admiral Fallon: Petraeus "an ass-kissing little - Corrente www.correntewire.com › Blogs › lambert's blog

Sep 12, 2007 – Fallon told Petraeus that he considered him to be "an ass-kissing little chickenshit" and added, "I hate ... More importantly, why does Admiral Fallon hate ponies? .... Ass-kissing little chickenshit = political general which is true ...

Admiral Fallon calls David Petraeus “an ass-kissing little chickenshit ... http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/.../admiral-fallon-calls-david-petraeus-an-ass-...

2 days ago – WASHINGTON, Sep 12 (IPS) – In sharp contrast to the lionisation of Gen. David Petraeus by members of the U.S. Congress during his ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-14   9:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2228. To: A K A Stone (#0)

[quote="Picasso Moon"]This is low quality garbage even for the site's designated/protected troll. There was no such thing as Jordan till the 1920s. People have continuously lived in the area known as Palestine for thousands of years. The people known as Palestinians are the descendants of those who were living there in Roman times, the vast majority of whom were NOT exiled by the Romans after the 70 AD rebellion. When the Zionist program was first articulated in the late 19th Century, it called the area "a land without people for a people without a land," once the Zionist congress decided Uganda and Argentina wouldn't do. Boy, were they surprised to find out that hundreds of thousands of people were actually living there. This included thousands of Orthodox Jews who never left, most of whom have still refused to recognize the state of Israel, which they consider the work of a "false prophet. If the troll wants to get into a debate about Palestine, let him, he should be warned that i was born there and most of my relatives still live there. He appears to know even less about this topic than he does about energy.

As for your question, allissun, i think he meant to say "the Palestinian Authority." He often leaves sentences unfinished.[/quote]

And you said I was being Offensive when I stated the

War of Terror/War for the Jews is now winding down/over...... :twisted: :roll: 8-)

When you Practice your Motto: 'War by Deception', Expect Everyone to assume that you're Always being Deceptive.

All we have to do is wait for Israel to escalate to nuclear, Russia/China/Iran Again make their position known to The Imperial City, and

the Imperial Opposition/AIPAC then finds that they really needed those Seven Admirals/Generals who just got taken out

Darlak

Sinclair

Ward

HAm

Gaoyette

Allen

Petraeus

:twisted:

Israel's chain will then be pulled...... :twisted: :roll: 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-15   9:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2229. To: mcgowanjm (#2226)

More to it Jim than a jailbreak. Bad bizz, US hiring AQ dudes to run guns in Syria. That is the "story."

"Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.) Psalm 139:16

redleghunter  posted on  2012-11-15   17:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2230. To: redleghunter (#2229)

More to it Jim than a jailbreak. Bad bizz, US hiring AQ dudes to run guns in Syria. That is the "story."

Do you read my posts?

www.google.com/search?ie=...mcgowanjm+wire+syria+ussa

what we're talking about now is the Removal of one of the Architects of the War of Terror/War for the Jews.....

Picasso Moon wrote:MJ: Your formatting leaves a lot to be desired. And the "war for the Jews" phrase is OFFENSIVE.

Even as you're watching Israel trying to genocide the Largest Open Air Prison in the World, containing the Densest Human Pop in the World .....and still concerned about my punctuation..... :roll:

The Limits to Growth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth

Undo The Limits to Growth is a 1972 book about the computer modeling of unchecked ... It was commissioned by the Club of Rome and was first presented at the 3.

We're asked to believe 11 impossible things before breakfast, and a half-dozen more after lunch, and in the absence of a coherent explanation we get speculation and surmise from people who may or may not know what they're talking about. The true story, leaking slowly in dribs and drabs, goes beyond a catfight over the affections of a general, or a turf war between the FBI and the CIA.

We're asked to believe that the FBI investigation into the general's affair, with its enormous national-security implications, was conducted over a period of weeks and the president was never told anything about it until Mr. Petraeus submitted his resignation. A half-dozen government agencies, in this fanciful telling of the story, treated the president as if he were a virgin in a bordello, all to preserve his "innocence" in the final weeks of a bitter election campaign. If the president didn't know what was going on upstairs, this is incompetence bordering on criminal malfeasance.

Want to know how Rome fell? U're livin' the history now. Petraeus.....Could've been the name of a Legatus Legionis Imperator who had gone one step too far and Marcus Aurelias had to put him back in his place.....;}

Or better: Another way of looking at it Good link from MarxMarvelous in the comments: "Are the Twins Operatives for a Foreign Intelligence Agency?" I'm struggling to see that Paula Broadwell actually did anything wrong (they're going to hang her on her research, which seems to be more the fault of Petraeus than her). In fact, is it possible that her efforts were an attempt at getting a potential national security threat away from Petraeus? I know we're supposed to see her as the crazy woman scorned, but, absent some strange and possibly criminal actions by a bizarro FBI, she might have been able to stop a mini coup d'etat.

President Mohamed Morsi of Egypt renewed his warning on Thursday that his country considers the Israeli assault on the people of Gaza—what many consider to be the largest open-air prison on the planet—an act of outright aggression and vowed to stand by Palestinians.

Another way of looking at it: This is evil of an unusual kind, evil that delights in its own cruelty, evil that seeks no end other than the satisfaction of watching its victims suffer for years on end, with a glimmer of hope offered now and then -- but solely for the purpose of making the suffering to come even more painful. And there is no end in sight. posted by Arthur Silber

GOOD NEWS...Arthur, bless him, can't see, maybe, that Evil destroys itself. It is NOT that powerful that Some Entity can't stop it Everytime.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-16   9:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2231. To: mcgowanjm (#2230)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-16   20:33:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2232. To: A K A Stone (#2231)

Ayn Rand's philosophy is 'model yourself after Psychopaths'.

Natanyahu Cheney Obama....;}

Israel is basically Las Vegas.

Left to it's own devices it can in no way support its current Standard of living.

Israel must have control of

1) Litani River

2)Mt Hebron

3)Gaza/Lebanon Gas Fields

4)Gaza the 'easiest' to attack

Like holding a child and her pregnant mother hostage.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-18   8:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2233. To: mcgowanjm (#2232)

Ayn Rand's philosophy is 'model yourself after Psychopaths'.

Wasn't she an atheist? No use for her. She probably made some good points here and there.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-18   9:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2234. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Why We Should Hear More about Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair and Less About Paula Broadwell

ThinkProgress ‎- 4 days ago

Most prominent is the case of Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair, who has been charged with forcible sodomy, multiple counts of adultery (a violation of ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-18   10:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2235. To: A K A Stone (#2233)

Wasn't she an atheist?

romney's VPOTUS Candidate, a devout Roman Catholic, thought her views were just Hunky Dory.

As did Greenspan, a Devout Jew.

sure I could find a Devout Evangelical who felt the same....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-18   10:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2236. To: A K A Stone (#2233)

She probably made some good points here and there.

And was attracted to Psychos like a moth to flame.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-18   10:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2237. To: A K A Stone (#2233)

Wasn't she an atheist? No use for her. She probably made some good points here and there.

Yet.Ron Paul idolized her

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-18   11:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2238. To: mcgowanjm (#2236)

And was attracted to Psychos like a moth to flame.

And vice versa.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-18   11:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2239. To: mcgowanjm (#2232)

Israel is basically Las Vegas.

Did you know that the IDF supplies much of the security for Las Vegas casinos?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-18   11:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2240. To: mininggold (#2239)

Did you know that the IDF supplies much of the security for Las Vegas casinos?

I may go to Vegas in January. If you want an autograph show up and I will give you one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-18   11:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2241. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The fissure that opened up Election Night for the GOPers.....

Ayn Rand’s Atheists are Crashing the Tea Party November 4th, 2011 at 2:45 pm Gary Weiss | 189 Comments |

"What we are seeing here, breaking out into the open, is a fundamental problem that has largely lain dormant: the far right, the Tea Party and much of the Republican Party, in their embrace of libertarian positions that are heavily influenced by Ayn Rand, are flirting with atheism. That’s a troubling issue for the right—at the very minimum a source of division—that could alienate the religious right within the Republican Party and Tea Party movement. A Heritage Foundation blogger expressed the religious right’s dismay with Paul’s position, saying that “If we focus too narrowly on people’s individual autonomy, we’re less likely to foster a sense of responsibility for one another through family, church, and community, leaving individuals more likely to turn to the state to meet their needs.”

You see, Ayn Rand and Christianity do not mix. The closer the Republican Party moves to Ron Paul and Rand-influenced libertarians, the more it will have to grapple with a rejection of religion that is more customarily considered to be a trait of the left than the right."

www.frumforum.com/ayn-ran...e-crashing-the-tea-party/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-18   21:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2242. To: mininggold (#2239)

Did you know that the IDF supplies much of the security for Las Vegas casinos?

Wait til you find out how much Israel has made on servicing Homeland Security.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-18   22:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2243. To: A K A Stone (#2240)

I may go to Vegas in January. If you want an autograph show up and I will give you one.

So are you going there for one the building trades conventions that are generally held then?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-19   0:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2244. To: mcgowanjm (#2242)

Wait til you find out how much Israel has made on servicing Homeland Security.....;}

I hate to think about it.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-19   0:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2245. To: mininggold (#2243)

So are you going there for one the building trades conventions that are generally held then?

No I would be going with my folks and some family and gambling.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-19   6:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2246. To: A K A Stone (#2245)

http://www.economic-undertow.com/

None of the factions acknowledge that the operation of the machine itself … is what undermines it. The present devours the future faster and faster: the cost of each fill-up becomes more crushing as the machine annihilates with constantly greater scope and efficiency what it needs to run. The only returns are ‘money’ for the despised tycoons while the rest must be satisfied with the thin gruel of ‘We’re Number One’ and other inconsequential generalities. Meanwhile, the life support on our space ship is fed into the furnace.

– Obama the Ironic: no doubt airports across the country will be renamed for the president just as the airline industry collapses due to fuel shortages … that are denied by Obama. – Obama the Ironic part two: sometime within the next four-plus years the president is going to have to tell the American public the truth about energy supplies: we’ve run out and cannot afford to burn any more for endeavors that don’t pay for themselves — which means fuel for agriculture and some basic services and nothing else! Here is something to live for … and watch on live TV. http://www.chris-floyd.com/compo...est-invasion-of-gaza.html

during the American crucifixion of the Iraqi city of Fallujah:

One of the first moves in this magnificent feat was the destruction and capture of medical centers. Twenty doctors – and their patients, including women and children – were killed in an airstrike on one major clinic, the UN Information Service reports, while the city's main hospital was seized in the early hours of the ground assault. Why? Because these places of healing could be used as "propaganda centers," the Pentagon's "information warfare" specialists told the NY Times. ...

Another interesting question is who we first lied to, ourselves or others. I personally lean to the former option lately, since we couldn't have known the advantages of lying to others beforehand. Whereas fooling ourselves could potentially have developed as a much more insidious, secretive, step by step feature.

Likely purely as a survival mechanism, after extremely traumatic experiences. To have such experiences, you need awareness, consciousness, either/or. Probably a sense of belonging to a group, a family, as well as a sense of what's right and what's not. If, in that state, you see your friends and family get killed off by a natural disaster or the cruelty of other humans, you need some sort of selective memory, some kind of denial mechanism, in order to survive both mentally and physically, and to find meaning in your life, a pre-requisite for who has awareness and is not a full-fledged psychopath.

http://theautomaticearth.com/Finance/optimism-bias.html

– Obama the Ironic part two: sometime within the next four-plus years the president is going to have to tell the American public the truth about energy supplies: we’ve run out and cannot afford to burn any more for endeavors that don’t pay for themselves — which means fuel for agriculture and some basic services and nothing else! Here is something to live for … and watch on live TV.

www.thirdworldtraveler.co..._Bankers_PersianGulf.html

The Italian P-2 Freemason Lodge had a penchant for working with South American dictators, fascist death squads and drug traffickers. P-2's activities affected the European continent as well. P-2 Grand Orient Lodge leader Robert Calvi controlled Banco Ambrosiano... Calvi was referred to as "God's banker". ... Michelle Sindona was Robert Calvi's partner at Banco Amrosiano. Sindona funneled CIA cash to the Vatican and to European Christian Democratic Parties, which the CIA much preferred to the Socialists... over 850 international banks [moved] Italian mafia and P-2 heroin proceeds out of Italy. ... In 1969 Sindona was financial adviser to Pope Paul 'VII and the Vatican Bank became Ambrosiano's biggest shareholder. ... In 1967 Continental Illinois sent $4 million through BFP [Banca Privita Finanziara] to finance a CIA-sponsored right-wing coup in Greece that toppled the Socialists and gave rise to the November 17 underground left, which has since killed both US and British military officers and bankers. During the 1972 elections Continental used BPF to channel $10 million in CIA funds to the Italian Christian Democrats. In 1973 Continental CEO David Kennedy joined the board of FASCO, the Liechtenstein holding company which controlled Banco Ambrosiano. FASCO was a CIA conduit for funding the Italian P-2 and had close ties with Gulf & Western Corporation, controlled by United Brands powder pushers Carl Lindner and Max Fischer. p297 The Vatican's secretive Opus Dei, often referred to as the "saintly Mafia" was behind the ascent of Polish Cardinal Karol Wojtyla to Pope John Paul II. The new Pope launched an Opus Dei/Vatican offensive to roll back Latin American liberation theology movements. p298 Gladio [was] a secret NATO strategy implemented after WWII that advocated an alliance between the mafia, CIA, Vatican and Knights of Malta.

You can find out how frequently a thunderous explosion would strike nearby if you were in a densely populated area of Gaza - roughly every fifteen minutes. That's four times an hour you would narrowly miss death, without even leaving your house. You could work out how much sleep it's possible to get with that on your mind. You can find out from Paul Danahar of the BBC that half of the casualties taken to Shifa hospital from the last aerial attack in the north of Gaza city are children - but ironically not from the BBC. You have to look at his Twitter account to find this out. You can find out how Palestinians are coping - families of seven moving into single rooms, avoiding exposure as far as possible, huddling together for an illusory sense of security, waiting to see if they'll be the next smoking crater with an English-speaking journalist standing next to it. Not a single UK broadcaster will tell you this, but you can find out.

http://www.leninology.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-19   7:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2247. To: mcgowanjm (#2246)

None of the factions acknowledge that the operation of the machine itself … is what undermines it. The present devours the future faster and faster: the cost of each fill-up becomes more crushing as the machine annihilates with constantly greater scope and efficiency what it needs to run. The only returns are ‘money’ for the despised tycoons

So if I fill up my tiller with gas and till the field and grow some crops. I don't see a return?

What if I simply fill up my vehicle and go to work and make some money. I still made a return. As long as my gas price didn't exceed the money you have left after the government picks your pocket.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-19   9:34:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2248. To: mcgowanjm (#2246)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-19   9:36:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2249. To: mcgowanjm (#2246)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-19   9:38:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2250. To: All (#2249)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-19   9:54:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2251. To: A K A Stone (#2247)

So if I fill up my tiller with gas and till the field and grow some crops. I don't see a return?

No.

You won't.

The cost of your tiller.

The cost of the gas.

The cost of the field.

The cost of the seed.

The weed control.

The insect control.

The critter control.

The time you put out.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-19   10:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2252. To: mcgowanjm (#2251)

My cans of vegetables say otherwise.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-19   10:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2253. To: A K A Stone (#2247)

What if I simply fill up my vehicle and go to work and make some money.

You have to pay for your vehicle.

And upkeep.

Even as you have to be taxed for the road work infrastructure.

Your work does not pay you for the above.

Your work is done for someone else who takes part your work.

The money you get is taxed at 15-34%.

And then you have to go do your 'crop raising'....;}

When the truth finally emerges from this morass of dissimulation, the disappointment will be epic.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-19   10:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2254. To: A K A Stone (#2252)

My cans of vegetables say otherwise.

And your canning as well?

A whole 'nother level of EROEI.

And you're finding the time to go gamble at Vegas?

Only getting the Oct 08 Bailouts and being in Top 1% allows you that luxury.

Earned on the back of Energy and real live slaves...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-19   10:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2255. To: A K A Stone (#2247) (Edited)

As long as my gas price didn't exceed the money you have left after the government picks your pocket.

Only with Military Empire and the magic of World Reserve Currency does that 'cheap' gas flow to the USSA.

W/o the above you're paying $300 the BBL.

That and Gaza Now is why the World hates us.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-19   10:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2256. To: A K A Stone (#0)

BTW, you all realize the USSA now has Zero Credibilty with Syria as it relates to Gaza.

"The enemy

In addition to Petraeus, the following officers are also either sacked or the object of scandals or investigations:

Marine General John R. Allen is in trouble. Currently the commander of US forces in Afghanistan.

General Carter Ham, commander of US Africom, whose area of responsibility includes Libya, manifestly failed to send forces to stop the attack on the Benghazi consulate and CIA post.

Admiral James G. Stavridis, the outgoing NATO Supreme Commander, has been officially reprimanded by Navy Secretary Ray Mabus for lavish spending on his personal lifestyle, including a junket to a wine dinner in France. He will soon leave his post.

General William E. “Kip” Ward, who commanded US Africom from October 2007 to March 2011, presided over the preparation and launching of the attack on Libya. On the surface, Ward is accused of spending several hundred thousand dollars of government money and resources on family members, luxury junkets, and flights.

Lieutenant General Patrick J. O’Reilly, the Director of the Pentagon’s Missile Defense Agency, has also been reprimanded by the Defense Department’s Inspector General for intimidating and humiliating subordinates, thus creating a work environment characterized by one subordinate as “management by blowtorch and pliers.”

Rear Admiral Chuck Gaouette was the commander of the USS Stennis carrier battle group, currently stationed in the Arabian Sea, near Iran and other possible targets for aggression and/or Gulf of Tonkin provocations. Gaouette is currently being investigated for “inappropriate leadership judgment” while on station in the Middle East.

Brigadier General Jeffrey Sinclair, second in command of the 82nd Airborne Division stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and a key man for Afghanistan logistics, is accused of raping and having an adulterous affair with a female captain he had gotten transferred to his command.

Commander Joseph E. Darlak, commanding officer of the frigate USS Vandegrifft and two other senior officers having been removed after a drunken orgy during a visit to the port of Vladivostok, Russia.

Christopher E. Kubasik was fired as president and Chief Operating Officer of Lockheed Martin Corp...

Gaza. The whole world hates the shitty little state of Israel and its Satanic child killers

"With all these figures removed, it is likely to be more difficult for Israel’s Netanyahu to launch his war against Iran in the way that had been planned.

"He has therefore fallen back on the option of starting a smaller war in Gaza as a means of stabilizing the US-UK-Israel war party while other options are sought... "

Exactly what I've been sayin'.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-19   22:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2257. To: A K A Stone (#0)

First time is Tragedy.

The Second is Comedy.

Ehud Barak, the Israeli military chief and senior terrorist suspected of being one of the high-level planners of the 9-11 terror atrocity, is once again committing war crimes in Gaza, as he did during the lame duck period after the U.S. elections in 2008. The Israeli air force uses precision guided missiles made in America to bomb civilian targets in Gaza.

cheney is lying when he says he only knew of 9/11 after 9:02 and Flt 175 crashes into WTC2.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-20   8:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2258. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Tales From the Terminals: King’s Cross (Part 1, History & Film)

Allegedly, certain juvenile members of a pedophile ring were in a cafe, underground, when the fire broke out.

Allegedly, the fire was started deliberately.

King's Cross.

1987: Disaster underground

"Inspector Peter Power was sent to the scene of the King's Cross fire to co-ordinate the efforts of the emergency services.

"He ran the Metropolitan Police's forward command post for much of the evening and most of the night on 18 November 1987."

ON THIS DAY | 18 | 1987: Disaster underground / WagNews: The Pied Piper of the London Bombing

Peter Power, who was also involved in the London Bombings of 7/7

There are good journalists, who tell us that pedophile rings do actually exist, and appear to be protected.

And there are journalists, often fascists, Jews and crypro-Jews working for the spooks, who pretend that such pedophile rings probably do not exist.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-20   11:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2259. To: A K A Stone (#0)

By Howard Schneider,

Nov 19, 2012 02:20 PM EST The Washington Post Published: November 19

The World Bank is urging stepped-up efforts to meet world carbon-reduction goals after looking at what it says would be the catastrophic consequences if average world temperatures rise more than 4 degrees Celsius (7.2 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century.

In what World Bank President Jim Yong Kim acknowledged was a “doomsday scenario,” a new study by the organization cited the 4-degree increase as a threshold that would be likely to trigger widespread crop failures and malnutrition and dislocate large numbers of people from land inundated by rising seas.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

You got maybe 10 more years that look anything like 2012....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-20   20:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2260. To: mcgowanjm (#2259)

The World Bank is urging stepped-up efforts to meet world carbon-reduction goals

Screw the world bank. More carbon.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-20   20:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2261. To: A K A Stone (#2260)

Screw the world bank. More carbon.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

intake

screw....the....world....bank....

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....8D

You and your buddies are sharks now dude.

YOu can't stop borrowing or your economies collapse.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-20   21:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2262. To: All (#2261)

Unknown persons opened fire from a car at Fraj al-Dersi in front of his home. He was hit by three bullets and died shortly after being taken to Benghazi medical centre, the official said, asking not to be named.

Dersi was appointed shortly after an attack on the US consulate on September 11 which cost the lives of US ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

He had occupied leading posts under the regime of Muammar Gaddafi, including post of anti-drugs chief, before joining the revolt against the former dictator when it started in February 2011.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-21   8:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2263. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Rear Adm. Samuel Perez: "fedex delivered the package"

1. Navy Replaces Admiral Leading Mideast Strike Group ... - ABC News

http://abcnews.go.com/.../navy-r...of-ongoing-investigation/

Oct 27, 2012 ... Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette, the commander of the USS John C. ... We need people who understand that that's just one side of the coin. .... president has never followed that simple 4 word statement. that is what got those ...

Obama Fires Top Admiral As Coup Plot Fears Grows http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1621.htm - Cached Oct 28, 2012 ... World's Largest English Language News Service with Over 500 Articles Updated

Daily ... A “must have” book for those seeking to understand the truth behind ... the immediate removal of Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette [photo 2nd ... And as we can, in part, read from US military insider accounts of this ...

Internal emails offer details on Osama Bin Laden's burial - NY Daily ... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/...-burial-article-1.1206307 1 day ago ... By Corinne Lestch / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS ... How 9/11 'mastermind' Khalid

Sheikh Mohammed got an orange beard at Gitmo ... his corpse was referred to as “the package” and no sailors watched the burial at sea. ... “Traditional procedures for Islamic burial was followed,” Gaouette said in an email the ...

Reader sends claim: Gen. Ham and Adm. Gaouette have lost their ... http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/....laim-gen-ham-and-adm.html - Cached Oct 27, 2012 ... NESARA- Restore America - Galactic News ... General Ham and Admiral Gaouette have both lost their commands, ... Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in ... The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House ...

Report: Obama Firing Officers Because He 'Fears A Coup' « Pat ... http://patdollard.com/.../report...-because-he-fears-a-coup/ - Cached 2 days ago ... On 9/11/2012, that officer -Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette, ... an utterly

bewildering White House command he probably had a hard time ... US news reports on Obama's unprecedented firing of a powerful US Navy ... And as we can, in part, read from US military insider accounts of this ... Your Package ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   9:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2264. To: All (#2263)

Like the Chinook shot down contained the Exact Same Seals Group that 'killed Obama'.

Gaouette: 'Have we received the package?"

Rear Adm Perez: 'Fedex has delivered the package.'

wonder where Perez is now?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   9:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2265. To: mcgowanjm (#2263)

I would laugh and party if the military took Obama out.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   9:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2266. To: A K A Stone (#2265)

I would laugh and party if the military took Obama out.

I've noticed in the last few weeks that 'laugh, party, and kill' type words are appearing ever more often in the same sentence of your screeds.

The Road to Hell starts off as a Smooth Descent....;}

Let me give you my bottom line right here at the beginning. If you're a person who writes or speaks regularly about politics at this particular moment in the lamentable history of the lamentable United States, and if you are not "mad, bad and dangerous to know," you aren't worth shit. All you are is another prop holding up a constantly expanding, ever worsening system of colossal brutality, oppression, dehumanization and murder.

And then you find yourself shaking hands with not so pretty looking/acting people....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   9:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2267. To: A K A Stone (#2265) (Edited)

I would laugh and party if the military took Obama out

And BTW, speaking of 'Military, Obama, taking people out':

Sinclair, Gaouette, Darlak, Ham, Ward, Petraeus, Allen were ALL

'your people'......;}

Notice Any scenes of celebrating Israelis lately?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   9:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2268. To: A K A Stone (#2265)

I would laugh and party if the military took Obama out.

Because, see Stone, This is what you come to as you decide to do the Samson Option on your Fort Abortion.

you don't and can't realize the Huge Double Standard you're displaying.

The US v Them Death State of Religion played out.

Thus we come to the immense tragedy of Gaza. In the last week, I've written about it here, here and here. I will state as an absolute, without qualification, that any individual who writes about politics regularly, and who is writing at this particular moment, and who is at all decent has to write about it. How can you contemplate the horrifying spectacle of innocent people being slaughtered, entire families being murdered, lives laid waste, each day turned into a hellish nightmare, and not write something? Even if all you can think to say is, "Stop!" -- which is, in fact, damned good advice -- can't you at least write that? No, many people could not be troubled even to write that.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   10:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2269. To: A K A Stone, All (#2268)

30% of the victims of Pillar of Cloud were children.

Who knows yet how many of those were 'aborted' in the womb.

Do you care about those Palestinian Abortions, Stone?

And if you don't, why don't you?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   10:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2270. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#2269)

30% of the victims of Pillar of Cloud were children.

Who knows yet how many of those were 'aborted' in the womb.

Do you care about those Palestinian Abortions, Stone?

And if you don't, why don't you?

He, like similiar vangies, threw Jesus under the bus a long time ago.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-24   10:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2271. To: mcgowanjm (#2269)

30% of the victims of Pillar of Cloud were children.

According to who. Some muslim scumbag. I don't believe anything from Muslims. I also realize that the Muslims are such low lives they brainwash their kids to be killed. They also hide their rockets by schools and playgrounds. You expect Israel to sit back and be bombed. If they were smart they would genocide the Muslim adults out of existence. At least the ones who are wanting to fight. They deserve death and Hell. Screw them. Screw you if you support them over our friends the Jews.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   10:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2272. To: mcgowanjm (#2269)

And if you don't, why don't you?

I'll get back to you on that one when you show some outrage at American kids being killed by your side. Your sick in the head.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   10:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2273. To: mininggold (#2270)

He, like similiar vangies, threw Jesus under the bus a long time ago.

Jesus is going to send every single Muslim that doesn't repent of their muslimness to hell.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   10:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2274. To: A K A Stone (#2271)

Poor Israel, gettin bombed by a bunch of rags tags that it's trying to push into the sea. I guess they thought that the Palestinians would go willingly into the sea after all it should be a privilege to be bombed by the chosen ones.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-24   10:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2275. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#2270)

30% of the victims of Pillar of Cloud were children.

Who knows yet how many of those were 'aborted' in the womb.

Do you care about those Palestinian Abortions, Stone?

And if you don't, why don't you?

He, like similiar vangies, threw Jesus under the bus a long time ago.

BUMP

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   10:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2276. To: A K A Stone (#2273)

Jesus is going to send every single Muslim that doesn't repent of their muslimness to hell.

After you, since you definitely do not believe in his teachings. And you have had the word so you should know better. You seem to equate Jesus with Satan. Why is that?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-24   10:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2277. To: A K A Stone (#2272)

I'll get back to you on that one

And we don't go anywhere until you do.

;}

Because with regard to the issue being discussed, the statement is true. If you think the truth is mean, perhaps you need to rethink where you're drawing the foul lines and adjust them accordingly.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   10:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2278. To: mininggold (#2274)

Poor Israel, gettin bombed by a bunch of rags tags that it's trying to push into the sea. I guess they thought that the Palestinians would go willingly into the sea after all it should be a privilege to be bombed by the chosen ones.

The Jews are letting the Palis live on part of their lands. The West Bank and the Gaza strip. Israel has been quite generous letting them live there. They should push them all into Jordan or Egypt. If they wont go they should kill them. It is the only way to end the nonsense that is Muslims. Death to the Muslim cult and its adherents.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   10:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2279. To: A K A Stone (#2272) (Edited)

when you show some outrage at American kids being killed by your side.

And THank you.

So Abortion for White babies in Fundyland....bad.

Abortion for Non White babies (over the age of....what....3?;) in Enemy Territory (or everywhere outside of FundyLand), ....good.

That cognitive dissonance in your head must be giving you fits, A K.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   10:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2280. To: mcgowanjm (#2279)

And THank you.

So Abortion for White Male babies in Fundyland....bad.

Abortion for Non White Male babies in Fundyland....good.

It is the liberal babies I want saved. As it is only liberals who abort their kids. No conservative ever had an abortion.

You're just jealous because you aren't white. You wish you were white but you aren't and that makes you feel inferior. You are inferior. But it isn't because of your race. It is because of your fried brain.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   10:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2281. To: A K A Stone (#2273) (Edited)

Your Taliban-attitude is showing...again!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-24   10:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2282. To: A K A Stone (#2280)

You're just jealous because you aren't white. You wish you were white but you aren't and that makes you feel inferior. You are inferior.

Your Ohio-(in)bred racist attitude is showing again, Stone.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-24   10:57:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2283. To: A K A Stone (#2278)

The Jews are letting the Palis live on part of their lands. The West Bank and the Gaza strip. Israel has been quite generous letting them live there. They should push them all into Jordan or Egypt. If they wont go they should kill them. It is the only way to end the nonsense that is Muslims. Death to the Muslim cult and its adherents.

Actually it started out just the opposite, since most Israelis came from other places and most Palestinians were already living there. Then the Zionist invaders got big, bad England on their side.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-24   10:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2284. To: A K A Stone (#2280) (Edited)

It is the liberal babies I want saved. As it is only liberals who abort their kids. No conservative ever had an abortion.

Yet Israelis come to the US all the time to have abortions. Wannabet that the lowest abortion rate is among the Muslims?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-24   10:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2285. To: mininggold (#2283)

The Muslims are inferior the the Jews. The muslims are also inferior to the Christians. Their religion is trash. I would spit and piss on the Koran if I had one. The Koran is only good for wiping your ass. Or starting a fire.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   11:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2286. To: mininggold (#2284)

Yet Israelis come to the US all the time to have abortions. Wannabet that the lowest abortion rate is among the Muslims?

A jew who is a liberal is a POS just like an American that is a liberal.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   11:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2287. To: Fred Mertz (#2282)

There Fred the inbred goes again half quoting and lying. Fred why do you quote out of context and lie? Does it make you proud to be a liar?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   11:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2288. To: A K A Stone (#2285)

The Muslims are inferior the the Jews. The muslims are also inferior to the Christians. Their religion is trash. I would spit and piss on the Koran if I had one. The Koran is only good for wiping your ass. Or starting a fire.

Many of the Muslims in the region originally were Jewish. Could they help that Saladin was tougher than the Christian knights?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-24   11:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2289. To: A K A Stone (#2287)

There Fred the inbred goes again half quoting and lying. Fred why do you quote out of context and lie? Does it make you proud to be a liar?

You need to stop with your borderline shit NOW.

Calm down and then maybe later you can discuss issues here like an adult.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-24   11:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2290. To: mininggold (#2289)

You need to stop with your borderline shit NOW.

Calm down and then maybe later you can discuss issues here like an adult.

You need to put your burka back on.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   11:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2291. To: mininggold (#2284)

Wannabet that the lowest abortion rate is among the Muslims?

The lowest rate is among Christians probably. I do know that the muslims cut up more clit's the anyone. Do you want them to cut your clit up? Then you better put your burka back on.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   11:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2292. To: mininggold (#2289)

Calm down and then maybe later you can discuss issues here like an adult.

He makes me feel like I'm in third grade again. When girls had cooties.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-24   11:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2293. To: Fred Mertz (#2292)

Sit down Fred and put your burka on too. You emasculated man.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-24   11:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2294. To: A K A Stone (#2291)

The lowest rate is among Christians probably.

It certainly IS not.

And after this last election it has become very obvious exactly who wants to have women put the Burkahs back on.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-24   11:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2295. To: A K A Stone (#2293)

Go fall off another roof.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-24   11:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2296. To: A K A Stone (#2280)

It is the liberal babies I want saved.

So the Palestinian baby falls where in your spectrum.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   13:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2297. To: A K A Stone (#2278)

The Jews are letting the Palis live on part of their lands. The West Bank and the Gaza strip. Israel has been quite generous letting them live there.

Especially since that's where all the Israelis Oil/Gas is....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   13:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2298. To: A K A Stone (#2278)

They should push them all into Jordan or Egypt. If they wont go they should kill them.

You're insane.

And there's that 'Kill' again.

But not the fetus. Of an Amerikan.

Your Heaven's gonna have alot of different compartments.

Or have very few in it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   13:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2299. To: A K A Stone (#2280)

You're just jealous because you aren't white.

I'm nonplussed.

jealous?

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You got nothin' I need, Stone.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   13:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2300. To: A K A Stone (#2285)

The Muslims are inferior the the Jews.

Now THAT's just Straight up Fascist.

Untermenshen.

Straight up.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-24   13:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2301. To: All (#2300)

Post Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:21 am by mcgowanjm

Picasso Moon wrote:No way the Israeli armed forces would remotely allow that.

The Petaeus Countercoup and the Romney/Sheldon defeat

(Note the utter dismay of Rove Election Nite)

was the USSA Military siding with Hollywood/Obama Doctrine..... :twisted: :roll: 8-)

the Sunday, November 25, 2012 Host Management: A Guide For Parasites I keep reading how clever Bibi is, and how the attack on Gaza was part of a larger brilliant strategy against Egypt, Syria, or Iran. I think it is time we put the 'smart Jew' meme to bed. Israel hasn't done anything smart in decades, and the latest Gaza mass murder is just another in a sad list of hopeless stupidities. What exactly did Bibi think was going to happen?

I return to the idea that there are two types of Jewish billionaires, the Jews who support Obama and the Obama Doctrine (these Jews we could call 'Hollywood'), and the Jews like Sheldon who won't accept anything less than full boots-on-the-ground Wars For The Jews.

It is primarily a difference in opinion on how to properly manage a host from the point of view of the parasite. World Jewry and its Zionist Empire is a parasite on the United States. The problem for all parasites is how to extract the most resources from the host before it dies. Parasites generally have an alternative host to move to, but no other powerful country is stupid enough, or corrupt enough in the proper way, to fall into that trap. Once the American Empire is dead, the Jews have no more options. Sheldon believes he can still extract more boots-on-the-ground Wars For The Jews before the United States is just a hollowed-out shell; 'Hollywood' accepts Obama's assertion that the Obama Doctrine is the best he can do, and that maximum value from what is left of the American Empire can only be obtained in a more limited way.

Bibi threw his lot in with Romney and Sheldon, and almost certainly can't even contact Obama directly to get a feel for the American position. Obama has 'Hollywood' backing to protect the interests of the American Empire, at least as far as keeping it alive long enough to maximize Jewish parasitic value extraction. Bibi's lack of access and information, together with the bifurcation in American Jewish billionaire positions, is a recipe for Israeli disaster. The only reason Bibi is still around is that the generals who really run Israel are as stupid as he is.

xymphora.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-26   8:58:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2302. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Prince Bandar ben Sultan

btw:

Anyone see ole Prince Bandar ben Bush lately?

Cause I think he got blown up Jul 26.

but maybe that's just me....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-29   12:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2303. To: mcgowanjm (#2302)

Poppy's been in the hospital for a week and likely will be there 3 more days. Something like bronchitis if you believe the cover stories. He's 88 I think.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-29   16:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2304. To: mcgowanjm (#2302)

"Iran," in U.S. Sights, Holds "Middle East" Hostage

Al-Sharq Al-Awsat (London), March 18, 2011

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-29   23:17:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2305. To: Brian S. Murron, cz82 (#2304)

Iran Sticks Its Nose in Bahrain while Condemning Gulf States for Interfering There

Al-Watan (Saudi Arabia), March 22, 2011

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-29   23:19:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2306. To: mcgowanjm (#2302)

Saudi King Rules with U.S. Force

Fars (Iran), April 10, 2011

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-29   23:21:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2307. To: cz82, mininggole (#2306)

A desperate Arab world puts itself on fire

Filastin (Gaza), January 30, 2011

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-29   23:24:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2308. To: A K A Stone (#2307) (Edited)

There were 138 votes in favor, nine against and 41 abstentions.

Wait until the Palestinians bring Israel up on charges and Israel becomes the center of a total world embargo. Oh Happy Day!!!!!!

I hope the first thing that happens is she is forced to surrender her nukes and submit to inspections.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-30   1:11:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2309. To: mininggold (#2308)

The UN is without authority. Israel is Israel. I can't wait either. The world vs Israel. Who do you think wins? I know I've read the ending.

Here is the part you should fear. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Ye knew me not. Depart unto eternal torment and burning. That is the fate of every single godless liberal and unrepentant Muslim.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-30   6:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2310. To: Fred Mertz (#2303)

He's 88 I think.

No need for a cover story.

I've got two uncles at that age.

Living the American Lifestyle.

Best Medical...even then, it's congestive heart failure, constipation, bronchitis....the body can't get rid of the fluids anymore.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-30   10:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2311. To: A K A Stone (#2309)

NEw News, A K.

The 9/11 War for Israel is over.

The remaining Admirals/Generals are picking up on that one.

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USSA out of the Afghans in weeks....

Israel looking more and more like Jordan by the Sea.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-30   11:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2312. To: A K A Stone, mininggold (#2307)

A desperate Arab world puts itself on fire

The world would be a much better place overnight... I wonder if we could convince them to invite all of our Leftards over to the Sandbox for a weiner roast???

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2012-11-30   17:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2313. To: CZ82 (#2312) (Edited)

The world would be a much better place overnight... I wonder if we could convince them to invite all of our Leftards over to the Sandbox for a weiner roast???

Maybe you should give your own ME sand box a last visit before it's turned into Untel Aviv

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-12-01   1:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2314. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, All (#0)

#976. To: nolu chan, Robin, All (#969)

The ONE SOURCE i said I would not link to.

That I did, and you found it....Great Work, nolu!

is the Exception that proves the Rule.

But you've got a Hard on for Soorcha.

You keep me up to date with here missives, whouldja? Thanx.

BUWAHAHAHA ....intake.....BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You Wish.

The War of 9/11, the War of Terror, the War for Israel and the Jews, is over.

What do these Men:

Darlak Sinclair O'Reilly Gaouette Ward Ham Petraeus Allen

have in common:

1) Military, Generals or Admirals

2)All Immediately Removed from Command, Dismissed without ceremony

3)All Wanting the War of 9/11, the War of Terror, to not only continue, but be expanded.......;}

To: Nolu Chan, Robin, Fred Mertz, All

Darlak Sinclair O'Reilly Gaouette Ward Ham Petraeus Allen

All removed unceremoniously summarily.

Reason:

They wanted the 9/11 War to Continue.

Petraeus Coup Countercoup

Syria will get the South Pars Gas Field Pipeline to the Mediterranean Sea.

Israel will be reduced to Jordan by the Sea......;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-11-30 8:25:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #3. To: mcgowanjm (#2)

Reason:

They wanted the 9/11 War to Continue.

Aha, now it's beginning to make sense.

Fred Mertz posted on 2012-11-30 8:30:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #4. To: Fred Mertz (#3)

Reason:

They wanted the 9/11 War to Continue.

Aha, now it's beginning to make sense.

I'm posting your response across the board, Fred....;}

Thanx for the Common Sense.....;}

Reason:

They wanted the 9/11 War to Continue.

Aha, now it's beginning to make sense.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-01   9:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2315. To: mcgowanjm (#2314)

Jimmie, thanks for the ping.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-12-01   9:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2316. To: Fred Mertz (#2315)

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-01   9:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2317. To: mcgowanjm (#2316) (Edited)

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Your style requires some reading between the lines which often irks straight linear/concrete thinkers.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-12-01   10:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2318. To: A K A Stone (#0)

See other USA - CONSTITUTION & LAW Articles Title: FBI probes Petraeus and staff over classified leaks

# Beneath Glowing Public Image, Petraeus Had His Critics | http://TIME.com http://swampland.time.com/.../be...petraeus-had-his-critics/ - Cached Nov 13, 2012...

Army vice chief of staff and a key architect of the Iraq surge Petraeus led. ... Beneath this glowing reputation, however, Petraeus also had his critics. ... successes and failures in the post-9/11 wars will make Petraeus' fall from ... # The Rise and Fall of `General Peaches' |

http://TIME.com nation.time.com/2012/11/1...-fall-of-general-peaches/

- Cached Nov 14, 2012 ... Just-departed CIA chief Dave Petraeus' voice – usually assertive, buffed ... vice chief of staff and a key architect, as a retired four-star general, of the ... in the nation's two post-9/11 wars, the revelation of his acknowledged affair ...

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The War of 9/11 is over.

Watch for the State of Emergency since 9/11 to be quietly rescinded next Spring instead of it being renewed.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-02   9:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2319. To: mininggold (#2317)

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Your style requires some reading between the lines which often irks straight linear/concrete thinkers.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

See B F Skinner, Jean Piaget Concrete Formal Thinkers for details......

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# B. F. Skinner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner - Cached - Similar Burrhus Frederic "B. F." Skinner (March 20, 1904 – August 18, 1990) was an ... Unlike less austere behaviorisms, it does not accept private events such as thinking, ..... Skinner, who rarely responded directly to critics, never formally replied to ...

Cognitive Development: Jean Piaget - Salem Press salempress.com/store/samp...logy_basics_cognitive.htm - Cached The concrete operations stage begins at age six or seven, when the ... The advance of the early adolescent into formal operational thinking involves the .... American psychology that was dominated by B. F. Skinner's behavioral view of a ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-02   9:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2320. To: mcgowanjm (#2319)

See B F Skinner, Jean Piaget Concrete Formal Thinkers for details......

Versus abstract which you seem to do pretty well, but others like me sometimes have a problem...imagining. Only I will admit it.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-12-02   10:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2321. To: A K A Stone (#0)

As a local police chief said, two civilians were also killed in the attack on the base in Jalalabad.

Afghan intelligence officials said nine suicide attackers were involved in the assault, and all had been killed.

NATO did not say how many of its troops had been injured, or how seriously.

The BBC's Orla Guerin in Kabul said the attack appeared "coordinated and complex".

OK, that's the USSA version as reported by our Colony, the UK.

Of course, good luck getting even THAT version here in the Homeland.....;}

Now, what really happened.....note the detail please.....;}

" * Home * News * Weekly Analysis * Statements * Articles * Movies * Interviews * Contact us

 Martyr attack hits Jalalabad airfield; 18 US invaders killed, 40 others wounded Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Monday, 19 Muharram 1434 Monday, 03 December 2012 07:12

NANGARHAR, Dec. 02 - Mujahideen officials said that Sunday, December 02, 2012. 6:00 a.m. local time a group of 12 martyrdom seeking Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate stormed Jalalabad Airfield, in the provincial capital of the country

.

First, one of the fearless loins of Islam, Sadiqullah slammed his explosive-stuffed vehicle into the gate of the airbase, blowing it apart and damaging part of the base including almost all of the base’s security checkpoints and cameras with this, the rest of 11 Mujahideen combatants disguised as American soldiers drove into the airbase without being confronted by any resistance and began having a head on fight with the US invading troops and their puppets lasting for about two and a half hours. Finally, Mujahideen blew up the second vehicle among the enemy forces through which Mujahideen had gotten into the base.

Meantime, other Mujahideen combatants outside the base stormed missiles and mortar into the base helping 5 out of 11 Mujahideen to escape unhurt and join Mujahideen, whereas, 6 Mujahideen fought to the very last and became martyrs, killing as many as 18 US invading troops and injuring more than 40 US invaders and local puppets. 5 enemy aircraft, including 4 helicopters destroyed during the fact to face fighting and bomb attacks."

Makes more sense, don't it.

The Truth always does.......

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-03   8:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2322. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#994. To: nolu chan (#987) (Edited)

In the complete absence of evidence that there has been any attempt at a coup d'etat, i.e., a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from the government; a political move to overthrow existing government by force, mcgowan claims that a navy commander (O-5) is a flag officer and cites his laundry list of names as proof that such an attempt to overthrow the American government, by force, was thwarted.

You need to get the story right if you're not just doing a smear disinfo ad hominem, nolu.

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And the List has expanded, no thanx to anyone here.....;}

It's now:

Williams, Darlak, Sinclair, Gaouette, O'Reilly, Ward, Ham, Petraeus, Allen

But NOW we need your Political Spectrum, nolu.

We need it desperately, because you INSIST on calling me a

RIGHT WING NUT JOB

Scalia is to my right or to my left on your Political Spectrum.

Hurry, nolu, Hurry. This is critical.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-03   10:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2323. To: mininggold (#2320)

See B F Skinner, Jean Piaget Concrete Formal Thinkers for details......

Versus abstract which you seem to do pretty well, but others like me sometimes have a problem...imagining. Only I will admit it.

You do well, mg.....keep it up.

Jim

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-03   10:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2324. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...M&feature=player_embedded

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-03   12:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2325. To: A K A Stone (#0)

There are several ways to spot Agit/Prop.

A Couple are by the Silence that ensues an Event:

The 7.3 just off Honshu/Fukushima Coast.

Egypt spiraling, yet no regular updates even as an un necessary Empire/Colony thing is given top billing in Syria.

Top Web Sites go down, or worse don't post anything, when earlier they will use info that's Definitely not as newsworthy from the Same Info Source

Like This:

[quote]Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Friday, 23 Muharram 1434 Friday, 07 December 2012 05:55

KABUL, Dec. 07 – A martyrdom operation has killed and wounded several high ranking enemy officials including the country’s intelligence chief (Asadullah Khalid), according to officials reporting from the heart of Kabul city.

The operation took place at around 05:00 pm on Thursday when a heroic Mujahid of Islamic Emirate (Hafiz Muhammad) detonated his explosives vest in the important guest house of the mentioned agency, located in Taimani area near 4th Hawza police station. [color=#BF0000] Initial reports indicate that the blast severely wounded the main intelligence chief (Asadullah Khalid), sending him into shock and coma before being taken away to Bagram airbase for treatment where his condition is described as critical.[/color]

Reports add that the bombing also wounded the head of 24th officiate while several other agents were also killed and wounded.

It is worth reminding that the attack took place as key enemy officials gathered for a meeting. More details will be updated as information arrives.[/quote]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-07   9:34:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2326. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Russia Arms Syria With Ballistic Missiles Posted on December 8, 2012

World News Daily - by REZA KAHLILI

Hours after NATO agreed on Tuesday to send Patriot missiles to Turkey because of the crisis in Syria, Russia delivered its first shipment of Iskander missiles to Syria.

The superior Iskander can travel at hypersonic speed of over 1.3 miles per second (Mach 6-7) and has a range of over 280 miles with pinpoint accuracy of destroying targets with its 1,500-pound warhead, a nightmare for any missile defense system.

According to Mashregh, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard media outlet, Russia had warned Turkey not to escalate the situation, but with Turkey’s request for Patriot missiles, it delivered its first shipment of Iskanders to Syria.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-09   7:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2327. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Royalty is Fascist by Definition.

Anyone automatically deferring to a Royal's POV is automatically a Right Wing Nut Job....;}

Why did King Edward VII’s Hospital nurse Jacintha Saldanha feel the need to kill herself?

She obviously felt humiliated by falling for the Aussie radio station 2Day FM’s prank, but was it really something worth getting suicidal about?

AND

How Jimmy Saville got away with raping 100's of girls/boys.......not a Royal Word on the matter.....;}

"In 1998, a Dutch TV documentary revealed that young boys were smuggled from Poland to the Netherlands with the assistance of “a top official of the Dutch government”. It added that a top official named “Joris” had been sentenced to 240 hours of community service and six months of conditional imprisonment. Claims then appeared in the Dutch media that this was not Demmink, although information was at zero on who it actually was.

But shortly afterwards, the Amsterdam authorities investigated a paedophile network. It was found to include a former lawyer of the Dutch queen, two main prosecutors, a former minister and a professor. Documents were leaked suggesting that Demmink had tried to sabotage the investigation."

hat4uk.com

Strauss Kahn

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-12   7:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2328. To: All (#2327)

cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/

Studies of resource depletion, such as "The Limits to Growth" of 1972 were attacked and demonized in the 1980s, and then consigned to the dustbin of "wrong" scientific ideas. Now it is the turn of climate science to be attacked and demonized. Two parallel stories unfolding at different times ."

I was villified for about 37 of those years.

Climate Change is a piece of cake because of that....;}

Almost there.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-12   7:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2329. To: A K A Stone (#0)

http://www.theoilage.com/post67563.html#p67563

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All Supports being violated.

Depression to get worse in days.

AND

HERE

WE

GO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-12   10:04:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2330. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#4. To: mininggold (#2)

See Lieberman's sad exit from Senate.

The War of 9/11 is over....;}

As soon as the new crop of congress persons are flown over by Israel to kiss the wall, they will win the Golden Yamaka award and become 'chosen ones'. And all will be right in the world (for Israel). Amen

Nope. Not this time.

We're down to Operation Phoenix, World Wide. Which signaled the End of Vietnam, and NOW the End of the War of 9/11.

"The new DIA agents will also take a specialisation course directed by the Commander of Special Operations. Apart from training recruits to eliminate the enemy, he also teaches "non-conventional warfare" to be conducted by exterior forces who are specially trained for this purpose; "counter-insurrection", to help allied governments to repress rebellion; and "psychological operations" intended to influence public opinion so that the population comes to support US military action.

Once their training is complete, these new DIA agents, about 1,600 at first, will be assigned by the Pentagon to missions all over the world. "

O Goody.

" But a Marine official here raised questions about whether the children were “innocent.” Before calling for the M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System mission in mid-October, Marines observed the children digging a hole in a dirt road in Nawa district, the official said, and the Taliban may have recruited the children to carry out the mission.

Shockingly, the article quotes a senior officer saying that the military isn’t just out to bomb “military age males,” anymore, but kids, too:

“It kind of opens our aperture,” said Army Lt. Col. Marion “Ced” Carrington, whose unit, 1st Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, was assisting the Afghan police. “In addition to looking for military-age males, it’s looking for children with potential hostile intent.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-15   7:34:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2331. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Prozac: Warning Labels and Side Effects Moira Dolan, M.D., Medical Accountability Network.

Hi, I’m Dr. Moira Dolan, internal medical physician with the Medical Accountability Network. A lot of people have been asking, “What is the connection between violence, suicide and homicide and antidepressant medications?”

Let’s take a look at this. There are numerous examples of people who have gone off on a shooting rampage and killed their classmates, their co-workers, members of their family and often took their own lives, then it was shortly discovered that they were taking an antidepressant. The apparency is that the person was mentally ill and went on a rage but when these cases have actually been looked at closer, what we find is that the person did not have any violent tendencies and in most cases was not even suicidal before they started treatment with their antidepressant medication.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-15   8:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2332. To: Fred Mertz, Robin (#0)

Folder: Inbox Date: April 23 5:38:22 PM From: Brian S To: A K A Stone Subject: Re: Pigboy Longo Wants To Cancel Ted Nugent Concert

Have you noticed that the Robin's Nest is now strictly 'members only' even to read the articles and posts?

Guess the place was getting too much traffic...not!

LOL.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-16   8:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2333. To: Fred Mertz (#2332)

I wont even release the other stuff he said.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-16   8:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2334. To: A K A Stone (#0)

[M]any Americans hurl themselves with fundamentally false, deeply disturbed enthusiasm into public demonstrations of grief over the needless deaths of some human beings -- those human beings they see as being much like themselves, when the deaths happen in what could be their own neighborhood. As for all the murders committed by their government with a systematic dedication as insane as that of any serial killer: silence.

The fundamentally unjustified and highly selective focus -- on feel-good stories on one hand, and on only narrowly delimited evils on the other -- always seeks to achieve a whitewash of this kind: it attempts to obliterate the reality of the obviously related, but unacknowledged greater evils in the broader system. In this sense, all such efforts are cover-ups, they are intellectually dishonest, and they are always lies.

If you have a culture that celebrates killing brownish Middle Easterners, and a culture which celebrates Islamophobia (all encouraged by Jewish-billionaire-financed lobby groups and think tanks, and, of course, the Jew-owned Entertainment Industrial Complex), and a culture where the ultimate life goal for many young men is to be a commando conducting mass murder behind enemy lines while thinking that all Americans are currently living behind enemy lines (so 'double-tapping' school children is just part of the campaign), the series of American mass civilian murders is inevitable. But you won't see anybody, particularly anybody on the 'left', even daring to mention the real problem (the hero of the 'left' is Susan Rice, leader of the Progressives for Civilian Carpet Bombing, with 'Responsibility to Protect' being the latest version of the White Man's Burden excuses for the violence of imperialism). The issues raised are just too challenging to the power structure. It is easier to try to ban a few of the most ridiculous guns, and whine about video games.

xymphora.blogspot.com/

powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/

Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF

Monday, 03 Safar 1434 Monday, 17 December 2012 17:00 KABUL, Dec. 17 –

Atiqullah, a 23-year old Mujahid coming from Paktia province, Monday at about 11 a.m. local time carried out a martyr attack on the US invading forces’ military company based in the heart of Kabul city, the capital of the country where more than 300 military troops are active. The brave Mujahid slammed his vehicle filled with some 2500 pounds explosives into the facility, leaving it heavily damaged while killing and wounding more than 150 foreign and locals working in the company.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-18   7:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2335. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Engels is CIA.

And supporting Al Qaeda.

To overthrow the most secular state in the region.

To implement another Sharia State.

The Syrians have been rolling up the latest attempt to Overthrow.

Engels picked the wrong side. The War of 9/11 is over.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-12-18 8:04:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-18   8:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2336. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Students with mental and physical disabilities are also punished at disproportionate rates, with potentially serious consequences for their development. In Texas, for instance, 18.4 percent of the total number of students who were physically punished were special education students, even though they make up only 10.7 percent of the student population.

U.S.: End Beating of Children in Public Schools

www.aclu.org/human-rights...g-children-public-schools

You'll now see this fade into the mists of time.

Until the next massacre.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-18   8:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2337. To: A K A Stone (#0)

THIS ain't happenin'....;}

http://hipcrime.blogspot.com/

"Matt Yglesias at Slate:

What will everyone do for work when everything is automated? They'll take care of old people and sick people, because people would rather interact with human beings if possible. How will we afford all this caretaking for the elderly? Because there will be so much automation that we'll enjoy lives of material plenty even with very little human work.

Kevin Drum calls this "our bed pan and canasta future." Russ Douthat at the New York Times comments, "video games in the morning, changing strangers' bedpans

"This comment seems to get it:

People will just get used to it over time, just as all the former union guys who were shocked by post union work rules and right to work laws had to get used to having less power and control over their working lives and declining wages while their pensions could be taken on a whim by management and disappeared (while executive pay and benefits went through the roof). Today's generation of children are used to being spied on, treated like sheep in schools, abused by police and authorities, disrespected by adults and feared by fellow potential employees who don't have the computer skills they do.

To paraphrase a line from Eastern Europe: the economy is not working for the American people, therefore we must reinvent the people."

THIS IS.....;}

4) The increase in mental illness and medication is in large part because life in America is extraordinarily unpleasant.

You live in a militarized surveillance society with no guaranteed health care and with a job market that doesn’t provide enough jobs for those who need it, allowing bosses to treat those who do have jobs like shit, and executives to take virtually all productivity gains for themselves.

http://www.ianwelsh.net/on-killi...+IanWelsh+%28Ian+Welsh%29

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-19   9:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2338. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I told you Engels is CIA:

angryarab.blogspot.ca/201...f-richard-engel-plot.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-19   13:01:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2339. To: All (#40)

Let's see...the U.S. has troops in 140 countries, two ongoing military blunders, a $700 billion dollar military budget - greater than all other nations combined, more guns per capita than any other country in the world, a mentally unstable population overdosed on junk food and junk culture, PTSD veterans who are homeless but happen to be very proficient with machine guns, roughly several hundred thousand fully automatic weapons floating around in god knows whose hands, the most paranoid anti-government demented hillbillies you will ever meet, and now an economy teetering on depression with a middle class income already falling into the abyss. You don't have to be a fucking genius to see where all of this is heading

ponziworld.blogspot.com/2...side-is-america.html#more

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-19   21:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2340. To: A K A Stone (#0)

We JUST had an election where the public (not to mention Every. Single. Poll.) overwhelmingly said no cuts to Social Security or Medicare, and raise taxes on income over $250K. That ought to mean something. But the "word" out of DC is that a deal is underway that cuts the Social Security COLA and increases the income level subject to a higher tax from $250K to $400K.

Senators and Representatives who are thinking of touching the "third rail:" How many constituents are calling your office today to say, "Yes, I want you to cut the Social Security COLA"?

www.seeingtheforest.com/a...t+%28Seeing+The+Forest%29

What the 'Fiscal Cliff' is all about.

What last year's 'Emergency' was all about.

And the year before, and Day 1 of Obama:

Gut Social Security.

And stick it to the Bottom 99% in the Most Painless Way Possible.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-20   8:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2341. To: mcgowanjm (#2340)

We JUST had an election where the public (not to mention Every. Single. Poll.) overwhelmingly said no cuts to Social Security or Medicare, and raise taxes on income over $250K.

You said Obama stole the election. Make up your mind.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-20   8:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2342. To: A K A Stone (#2341)

We JUST had an election where the public (not to mention Every. Single. Poll.) overwhelmingly said no cuts to Social Security or Medicare, and raise taxes on income over $250K.

You said Obama stole the election. Make up your mind.

I don't see the contradiction.

Explain.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-20   8:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2343. To: mcgowanjm (#2342)

We JUST had an election where the public (not to mention Every. Single. Poll.) overwhelmingly said

Those are Obama's postitions. If he stole the election then the majority didn't vote for that.

Your point is also meaningless because every congressman that opposes that stuff was also elected.

We don't have a system where the President wins then the congress adopts his positions.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-20   8:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2344. To: All (#2342)

You said Obama stole the election. Make up your mind.

And I said about the Last Election

that there was Election Fraud which kept Obama from An Even Larger Landslide than he got.

See Unadjusted Exit Polls and Late Counted Votes for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-20   9:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2345. To: A K A Stone (#2343)

Those are Obama's postitions.

No, they're not.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-20   9:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2346. To: All (#2345)

From Day 1 Obama has taken Public Option off the Table and tried to gut SS/Medicare.

Even Now!

Look forward to hearing about

Chain(ed) CPI in the Coming Hours/Days

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-20   9:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2347. To: A K A Stone (#2343)

Those are Obama's postitions. If he stole the election then the majority didn't vote for that.

The Elections since Nixon have been Red Shifted as a matter of course.

99% don't vote against their interests for 40 years.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-20   9:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2348. To: All (#2347)

It got so bad in 2000 that Scalia had to blatantly take it away from the Dems in Full View of the Public.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-20   9:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2349. To: A K A Stone (#2343)

Those are Obama's postitions.

As I explained above, No, they are not.

"We don't have a system where the President wins then the congress adopts his positions."

If the GOPers had won a Super Majority in 2008, we'd have seen Every one of their positions rammed down our throats.

Without question.

Obama?

Day 1, he wants to reach across the aisle. And as a Good Faith gesture, Public Option will be taken off the Table.

Please.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-20   13:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2350. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The “Export Land” Model (ELM)

There are three principal factors that control a net export decline: (1) Consumption as a percentage of production at a production peak (C/P); (2) Rate of change in production and (3) Rate of change in consumption. We constructed a simple model, for a hypothetical exporting country called “Export Land,” to illustrate how these factors interact to control the resulting net export decline.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-21   20:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2351. To: All (#2350)

Actions, Not Words: For four years and counting, Obama has worked to find a way to make premature and unnecessary cuts in Social Security and Medicare. Don't look at his words, he's a politician. Look at what he's done, especially the repeated and unnecessary concessions to the Republicans. It's not about the deficit, at least the chained-CPI COLA planned for Social Security, because the program is not a part of the deficit. So there must be some other explanation.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-21   20:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2352. To: mcgowanjm (#2351)

It's not about the deficit, at least the chained-CPI COLA planned for Social Security, because the program is not a part of the deficit.

I can't BELIEVE it... you actually got something right.

Must've been an accident.

If you include SS, Medicare-A, Medicare-B, military and government-employee pensions, the actual Net Present Value of the debt is $222 TRILLION.

That's in todays dollars.

Thanks for playing, dumbshit.

Now, pretend you're a German finance writer again... it'll help explain why you're so fucking stupid about reality.

You really need the shit kicked out of you, due to your idiot socialist bullshit.

Putz.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-12-21   20:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2353. To: Capitalist Eric (#2352)

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So let's ReCap:

ME:

Actions, Not Words: For four years and counting, Obama has worked to find a way to make premature and unnecessary cuts in Social Security and Medicare. Don't look at his words, he's a politician. Look at what he's done, especially the repeated and unnecessary concessions to the Republicans. It's not about the deficit, at least the chained-CPI COLA planned for Social Security, because the program is not a part of the deficit. So there must be some other explanation.

EC:

It's not about the deficit, at least the chained-CPI COLA planned for Social Security, because the program is not a part of the deficit.

I can't BELIEVE it... you actually got something right.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-22   9:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2354. To: Capitalist Eric (#2352)

If you include SS

THEN

EC:

If you include SS

EC THEN goes on to say that SS (Social Security) is......

WAIT FOR IT......

PART OF THE PROBLEM

HAppy Trails to you,

until we meet again.

HAppy Trails to you,

Good bye So long Farewell.........

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And for the Nasty Ad hominem?

FUCK YOU AND YOURS, very much.

Thanx for Playing.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-22   9:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2355. To: All (#2354)

Speaking Up: Boehner's inability to muster a passing vote in a House his party controls raises the question of how much of the House he speaks for and whether he'll be Speaker come January. To win the job he'll need an absolute majority of the House. He doesn't have one now. Now if we could get Obama to stop negotiating with himself...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-22   10:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2356. To: All (#2355)

The Brotherhood of the Flagellants: With no coherent threat of scourging from the right, House Democrats are working on a plan that would cut Social Security benefits, plus reduce the benefits of about 50 other federal programs that are keyed to cost of living adjustments.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-22   10:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2357. To: mcgowanjm (#2354)

FUCK YOU AND YOURS, very much.

Right back atcha', Adoph.

Thanx for Playing.....;}

No, thank YOU. I enjoy shitting on you, and your idiocy.

The only thing that would make it better, would be pissing on your lifeless face. And as you fucking socialists keep pushing your bullshit, the odds of that get better and better.

Fucker.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-12-22   15:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2358. To: A K A Stone (#0)

IMG]https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/911/data/Twin_towers.jpg

You think two planes brought these two buildings down in 10 second free fall, you live in another Universe of Reality.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-24   7:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2359. To: Capitalist Eric (#2357)

#2354. To: Capitalist Eric (#2352)

If you include SS

THEN

EC:

If you include SS

EC THEN goes on to say that SS (Social Security) is......

WAIT FOR IT......

PART OF THE PROBLEM

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-24   7:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2360. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Tomsk - Nov 1, 2012 by Ugo Bardi

cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/

[quote] In a way, oil extraction is a big chemical reaction where oil and oxygen are the reactants and human beings are the catalyst. It is impressive that these models work so well in some historical cases - not all cases, of course: the world's economy is a complicated system. But the fact that it is a complicated system doesn't mean that it doesn't obey the laws of physics. When there are no more reactants, the reaction must end. [/quote]

[quote] 3. Oil: the present situation

So much for the so called "Hubbert model". It is an interesting model, but you have to remember that models are always approximations of reality. This is valid in chemistry just as well as in oil production. So, let's go see some data about the real world, here, for instance this one (taken from Wikipedia):[/quote]

[img]3.bp.blogspot.com/-AoMeOR...ducing_Counties.png[/img]

[quote] Note also that the high cost of extraction is not the only problem. As more effort is made to extract from expensive resources, we see that we produce more CO2 for the same amounts of energy generated. And this has an impact on climate. Even here in Russia. Let me just show to you the fires in East Siberia of this year - one of the consequences of climate change.[/quote]

[img]3.bp.blogspot.com/-70m7c5...astsiberiafires.png[/img]

And here'swhere Ugo loses the thread:

[quote]Nuclear plants or renewable energy, possibly both things, but it is essential that we develop and install new forms of energy in the future.

This is the crucial point and the big challenge we face. Either we succeed in developing and using these new methods, or we'll have big, big troubles. And, as you saw, catalysis is a fundamental factor in these new perspectives. It is fascinating field to work in. It has always been one and now it is even more so![/quote]

And so the takeaway:

We can continue with fossil fuel liquids, but we'll need to convert CO2 to CO to oil.

And to do that, get some Nukes/Wind/New Planet....and we're Good to Go.... :twisted:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-25   10:05:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2361. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Treasury Secretary Paulson shoved bailouts down Congress’ throat by threatening martial law if the bailouts weren’t passed. And the bailouts are now perpetual.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-25   22:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2362. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Huge Car Bomb.

Rattled windows 4 Km away.

Khost.

NATO Convoy target at Eastern Gate of Joint Base.

“detonated a car bomb while American invading forces were searching visitors going to the base”

In the meantime a local police official said the assailant struck Wednesday as the convoy was traveling to the airport near the capital of Khost province, which borders Pakistan. NATO command could not confirm the attack and Afghan authorities had no further details. from KHAAMABy Meena Haseeb - December 26 2012, 9:03 am

Read more: sgt-jim.blogspot.com/2012...ttack-nato-convoy-in.html

Thanx for fu cking NOTHING on this, USSAMSM/FUKUSIsrael.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-26   7:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2363. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Truth replaced by Silence is Evil....;}

* Home * News * Weekly Analysis * Statements * Articles * Movies * Interviews * Contact us

 Martyr attack US invaders airbase; more 100 killed Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Wednesday, 12 Safar 1434 Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:31

KHOST, Dec. 26 – Wednesday, December 26, 2012, at 8:00 a.m. local time, a brave martyrdom-seeking Mujahid of the Islamic Emirate conducted a martyr attack on the US major military airbase in the capital of Khost province by slamming his explosive-filled truck at the gate of the airfield, killing as many as 100 foreign invaders and local puppets of the occupation forces and wounding several dozens more, Mujahideen official said.

Wednesday’s successful attack was carried out by a Mujahid Omar when the US soldiers were trying to frisk a large number of the puppets and other people who try to enter the base and severe American terrorist forces at the expense of selling out their country.

More than 250 puppets were said to be at the gate when the attack occurred, slamming the gate of airbase where a C.I.A office is based which is also said to be badly damaged.

Meantime, the attack site was cordoned off, blocking all the roads and several ambulance helicopters landed in the base to evacuate the dead and wounded.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-27   7:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2364. To: A K A Stone (#0)

See?

Here's the problem:

When people give me Total Shite for Reporting the the Petraeus Coup

But THEN

Accept the following like it's Mother's Milk.

Why? Because the USSA MSM would not lie about something like this:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...self-into-sports-bag.html

MI6 codebreaker Gareth Williams 'probably locked himself into sports bag'

MI6 codebreaker Gareth Williams probably locked himself into the sports bag where his naked body was found and was not the victim of a hit by the security services, Scotland Yard has found after conducting a review of the case.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-28   7:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2365. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Facebook = RWNJ

Facebook Suspends Account For Questioning Official Narrative on Shooting

On Saturday, Connecticut state police warned that people posting “misinformation” on social media websites would be “investigated and prosecuted.”

However, this threat could apply to the vast majority of the mainstream media, who in their haste to get out ahead of the story reported numerous details that soon turned out to be completely incorrect.

- It was initially reported that Adam Lanza’s mother, the first victim of the rampage, was a teacher at the school, which was not true.

- It was initially reported that Lanza had also killed his father, which was not true.

- It was initially reported that the culprit behind the massacre was Ryan Lanza, Adam Lanza’s brother, which was not true.

- Initial reports that a “second gunman” arrested in the woods behind the school was involved in the massacre were later dropped without explanation.

Given that most of the “misinformation” about the shooting came from corporate media sources, the fact that Facebook is punishing users for asking questions about the proper sequence of events – essentially labeling such activity a thought crime – is a worrying development.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-28   7:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2366. To: All (#2365)

Which RWNJ site spread this rumor.....;}

Moscow denies joint Russia-US plan on Syria

Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Alexander Lukashevich

Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:8AM GMT

Russia says its stance toward Syria has not changed, denying the existence of any plan with the US that would see Syrian President Bashar al-Assad out of power in 2014.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-28   7:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2367. To: A K A Stone (#0)

In fact, only in December 2008 and May 2012 have faster annual rates of decline been recorded.

Read more at globaleconomicanalysis.bl....html#pPRP2Y5ufd8aHDYB.99

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-29   9:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2368. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The planes had the call signs "Bobcat 14" and "Bobcat 17." A partial transcript of air traffic controller communications reveals they were communicating with the control tower at Washington's Reagan National Airport, which is less than a mile from the Pentagon, between at least 9:31 a.m. and 9:40 a.m. on September 11. [1] (The attack on the Pentagon took place at 9:37 a.m. [2]) Radar data has shown that the two aircraft flew "in trail" (in single file, with one directly behind the other) at an altitude of 21,000 feet, and were overhead in the few minutes before the Pentagon was hit. [3]

LAUNCHED FROM DOVER AIR BASE It would seem essential to establish the exact identities of these aircraft and find out what they were doing in the vicinity of the Pentagon at such a critical time. Yet, eight years after the attacks took place, we still do not have this information. (The fact that these aircraft were near the Pentagon at the time it was hit is itself virtually unknown.)

shoestring911.blogspot.co...shington-on-911-what.html

As Lt Gen Brent Scowcroft flies above the WH in his E4-B Flying Pentagon

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-30   10:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2369. To: All (#36)

www.reuters.com/article/2...udi-idUSL6E8CB0QB20120111

Jan 11, 2012 – Repeats JAN 10 story, no change to text)* Saudi Arabia now pumping just under 10 mln bpd* On paper should be able to reach 12.5 mln bpd* ...

The Saudis are at capacity. Expect Ghawar to do a Cantarell at any time now.

Here's your Reliable Sources..............

That's right. Nothing.....not a god damn thing.

And we've been Fu cked Around since November 9. 2012 that THIS was the And All Be All.........

Well now it is........

IF you don't understand...... 8-)

Fiscal Cliff gone over.

Note: I wrote the following after watching the Prez on TV. His smiling demeanor and tough guy talk led me to believe that a "patch" on the cliff might happen. Four hours later, and that is not the case. The House will not vote on anything today.

There is a chance that the House could vote tomorrow. This would bring results along the lines I describe below. But if the House does not vote, then it means there will be a long fight. A fight that could go on until the debt limit shuts the government.

These people are desperately trying to fail.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contrib...f-deal-winners-and-losers

Deflation......hope you got out of debt.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-31   17:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2370. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.seeingtheforest.com/a...t+%28Seeing+The+Forest%29

You can tell EXACTLY when the GOPers have grabbed the Short End of the Stick.......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-01   8:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2371. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#

# Heroin Use Probed in Death of T. Boone Pickens' Grandson: Sources www.nbcdfw.com/news/.../G...ckens-Dies-188878781.html 20 hours ago ... Police are investigating the death of Thomas "Ty" Boone Pickens IV, the 21-year- old grandson of billionaire oilman T. Boone Pickens, as a ...

T. Boone Pickens' grandson, a TCU student, dies in Fort Worth | Fort ... www.star-telegram.com/201...ckens-grandson-a-tcu.html - Cached 10 hours ago ... T. Boone Pickens' grandson, a TCU student, dies in Fort Worth ... are available if students need to speak with someone about this sad news." ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-30   10:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2372. To: mcgowanjm (#2368)

and find out what they were doing in the vicinity of the Pentagon at such a critical time

Check a map. Andrews AFB is right across the river.

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-01-30   11:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2373. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And This is just flat out bullshi,t:

"Waugh will note, “I was familiar with bin Laden from [CIA] traffic, but this was the first time I had heard the term al-Qaeda.” [Waugh and Keown, 2004, pp. 121] According to most other media accounts, US intelligence does not learn about the existence of al-Qaeda until several years later, not long before the State Department publicly uses the term in 1996 (see August 14, 1996). For instance, US News and World Report will even assert in 2003, “So limited was the CIA’s knowledge that it began using al-Qaeda’s real name only [in 1998]—10 years after bin Laden founded the organization.” [US News and World Report, 12/15/2003]

Entity Tags: Central Intelligence Agency, Al-Qaeda, Billy Waugh, Osama bin Laden

Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline

Profile: Jack Cloonan Positions that Jack Cloonan has held:

* FBI agent

Related Entities:

* Employee Federal Bureau of Investigation * Acquaintance of Russell Fincher * Employee of FBI New York Field Office * Acquaintance of Ali Mohamed * Acquaintance of Patrick Fitzgerald * Acquaintance of “Albert”

Jack Cloonan was a participant or observer in the following events: Shortly After May 1993: Ali Mohamed Describes Al-Qaeda Training Camps, Possibly More, to US Military Edit event

Double agent Ali Mohamed is interviewed by the US military about al-Qaeda, but what exactly is said is uncertain because the interview files are supposedly lost. When Mohamed’s FBI handler John Zent interviewed him in May 1993 (see May 1993), he mentioned al-Qaeda training camps. FBI agent Jack Cloonan, who will later investigate Mohamed, will recall, “John realizes that Ali is talking about all these training camps in Afghanistan. And starts talking about this guy named bin Laden. So John calls the local rep from army intelligence” and arranges for them to interview him. A special team of army investigators shows up from Fort Meade, Virginia, which is the home of the NSA. “They bring maps with them and they bring evidence.… And so they debrief Ali, and he lays out all these training camps.” What else he may reveal is not known. Cloonan is not sure why Mohamed volunteered all this vital al-Qaeda information. Earlier in the year, FBI investigators discovered that Mohamed stole many top secret US military documents and gave them to Islamic militants (see Spring 1993). However, Mohamed faces no trouble from the Defense Department about that. FBI agent Joseph O’Brien will later ask, “Who in the government was running this show? Why didn’t the Bureau bring the hammer down on this guy Mohamed then and there?” Whatever Mohamed says in this interview is not shared with US intelligence agencies, even though it would have obvious relevance for the worldwide manhunt for Ramzi Yousef going on at the time since Yousef trained in some of the camps Mohamed is describing. Several years later, Cloonan will attempt to find the report of Mohamed’s interview with army intelligence but “we were never able to find it. We were told that the report was probably destroyed in a reorganization of intelligence components” in the Defense Department. [Lance, 2006, pp. 130-131]

Entity Tags: Al-Qaeda, US Department of Defense, Osama bin Laden, Ali Mohamed, Jack Cloonan, John Zent, Joseph O’Brien, Ramzi Yousef

Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=jack_cloonan

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-10   18:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2374. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Top Five Russian Gold Stocks www.wealthdaily.com/articles/top-five-russian-gold-stocks/2709 - Cached - Similar Sep 13, 2010 ... Russia is the sixth-largest gold producer in the world, accounting for ... Russia is also the third-largest exporter of black coal, recently inking a ...

Even high-level government officials were not aware of the CIA’s domestic spying program until very recently. “Counterintelligence!” exclaimed one Justice Department official upon learning some details of the program. “They’re not supposed to have any counterintelligence in this country. Oh my God. Oh my God.” CIA archivist and historian Gerald Haines will later write that the committee was thoroughly deceived by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who officially cooperated with the committee but, according to Haines, actually “worked hard to undermine its investigations and to stonewall the release of documents to it.”

FISA refused FBI The Judiciary Committee has been investigating FISA problems at the FBI, including holding closed hearings where Mr. Bowman and others were questioned about the Moussaoui case. Mr. Grassley said a 26-page electronic communication from the Minneapolis agents contained information that "a reasonable person would have concluded" was sufficient to obtain a FISA warrant. He said the application should have gone forward to the Justice Department and the FISA court. Instead, he said, FBI Supervisory Special Agent Michael Maltbie concluded there was not enough information and that Mr. Bowman agreed, although he was aware Mr. Maltbie had "removed certain information before making a presentation of questionable accuracy and length to the national security law unit."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-11   7:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2375. To: All (#2374)

August 28, 2001: Attorney Kills Moussaoui Warrant Request Edit event

Mike Maltbie and Rita Flack of the Radical Fundamentalist Unit (RFU) forward a request for a warrant to search Zacarias Moussaoui’s belongings (see August 21, 2001) to National Security Law Unit chief Spike Bowman. The request was submitted by the Minneapolis field office (see August 22-28, 2001), which has been trying to obtain a warrant for some time. Earlier in the day, Maltbie edited the request, removing information connecting Moussaoui to al-Qaeda through a rebel group in Chechnya (see August 28, 2001). RFU chief Dave Frasca was to attend the meeting, but is called away at the last minute. According to Bowman, who is already very familiar with the facts in this case, Maltbie is adamant that there is not enough evidence to issue the warrant. Bowman agrees, saying that the evidence fails to implicate Moussaoui as an agent of a foreign power. The FBI thus abandons the effort to obtain a FISA warrant and begins planning his deportation (see (August 30-September 10, 2001)). [US Department of Justice, 11/2004, pp. 164-6, 168 pdf file; US Department of Justice, 3/1/2006 pdf file]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-11   7:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2376. To: All (#2375)

Between August 20-September 10, 2001: FBI Headquarters Agent Apparently Worried Moussaoui Case Will Damage His Career Edit event

Mike Maltbie, a supervisory agent with the Radical Fundamentalist Unit (RFU) at FBI headquarters, tells Minneapolis agent Harry Samit, who has arrested Zacarias Moussaoui and wants to search his belongings, that getting an intelligence warrant can be bad for an agent’s career if it gets fouled up. Maltbie comments that he wants to “preserve the existence of his advancement potential.” The Minneapolis field office is in dispute with the RFU over whether a warrant should be granted to search Moussaoui’s belongings, which contain enough information to potentially prevent 9/11 (see August 16, 2001 and August 20-September 11, 2001). At a key meeting with an attorney about whether to go forward with the warrant request, Maltbie is adamant that the warrant should not be granted (see August 28, 2001). [Newsday, 3/21/2006]

Entity Tags: Harry Samit, FBI Headquarters, Michael Maltbie, FBI Minnesota field office, Zacarias Moussaoui, Radical Fundamentalist Unit

Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline, 9/11 Timeline

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-11   7:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2377. To: A K A Stone (#0)

By Peter Hart | FAIR | February 13, 2013

We’ve noted many times that when it comes to corporate media coverage of the so-called budget “sequester”–the immediate cuts to military and social spending set to hit in a matter of weeks–what matters most is what will happen to the military. The Washington Post had a whole piece (2/13/13) devoted to yet another round of complaints from military leaders–without a single comment from anyone who might take the view that cutting military spending would not be such a disaster.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-14   11:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2378. To: All (#2377)

AND HERE WE GO

The LAPD Got their Man How They Wanted Him: Dead Wed, 02/13/2013 - 11:10 by: Dave Lindorff

"Burn that fuckin' house down...Fucking burn this motherfucker!!"

--Voices overheard on police radio at the scene of the cabin where Chris Dorner was trapped and burned to death

It was clear from the outset when fired LAPD cop Chris Dorner began wreaking his campaign of vengeance and terror against his former employer that the California law enforcement establishment, led by the LAPD itself, had no interest in Dorner surviving to face trial, where he could continue to rat out the racist and corrupt underbelly of the one of the country’s biggest police departments.

Dorner, as I wrote earlier, claimed he had been fired for speaking up during his three years on the force, through channels and to superior officers, about incidents he had witnessed of police brutality and of the rampant racism that permeates the department -- not just white on black, but black on Asian, Asian on Latino and Latino on white. His response to being sacked -- threatening to kill senior officers he blamed for this law enforcement distopia as well as some of their family members -- was criminally insane, but his complaints, made in a 6000-word post on Facebook, had and continue to have the ring of truth.

www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1582

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-14   11:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2379. To: mcgowanjm (#2378)

Shouldn't this be in the 2013 wire thread?

You're welcome.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-02-14   11:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2380. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Change never comes top down. Bottom up only works. Society's privileged never yield it. Pressure slowly builds for change. Growing human need takes so much.

When pain levels cross a threshold of no return, all bets are off. Celente says "(w)hen people lose everything and have nothing else to lose, they lose it."

Hopefully it'll be soon enough to matter. The world can't tolerate much more.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-17   7:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2381. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Via ACEA,

Looking at the major markets, only the UK posted growth (+11.5%), while downturn prevailed in Germany (-8.6%), Spain (-9.6%), France (-15.1%) and Italy (-17.6%). In absolute figures, Germany remained the largest market with 192,090 new registrations, followed by the UK (143,643 units), France (124,798) and Italy (113,525). Spain registered 49,671 new cars, which was slightly less than Belgium (50,684 units).

Via Reuters,

...

After falling to a 17-year low in 2012, European car demand is expected to contract further this year, squeezing mass-market brands still harder between excess capacity and cut-throat pricing. Most carmakers see the regional market shrinking between 3 and 5 percent in 2013.

Tentative hints of a broader euro zone economic upturn have yet to percolate to the car industry.

Germany in particular is weighing on the outlook. After resisting much of last year's slump, Europe's biggest car market is in sharp decline, extended by an 8.6 percent drop in January.

zerohedge

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-19   12:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2382. To: A K A Stone (#0)

A Cobra helicopter belonging to the pakistan military

According to Pakistani Urdu TV channel Geo News (killed in Abbotabad near Islamabad of Pakistan):

Pakistani intelligence officials said that a Pakistani army helicopter was shot down in Abbottabad and then a search operation was launched by Pakistani forces.

At about 1:20 a.m. local time a Pakistani helicopter was shot down by unknown people in the Sikandarabad area of Abbottabad.

The Pakistani forces launched a search operation in the nearby area and encountered a group of unknown armed people.

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# Mostaque Ali: The SSG of Pakistan carried out the Osama raid for ... mostaqueali.blogspot.com/...rried-out-osama-raid.html - Cached May 19, 2011 ... According to a Pakistan news report (Veterans Today): ... (25% of the Pakistani military is Pathan, and many serve in the two .... According to Pakistani Urdu TV channel Geo News (killed in Abbotabad near Islamabad of Pakistan): ... that a Pakistani army helicopter was shot down in Abbottabad and then a ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-24   12:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2383. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The corporate governments of the world have been following the playbook of William Casey, U.S. Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, since long before he uttered these words in 1981: “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” It’s working great, as indicated by the one-third of Americans who would accept cavity searches in exchange for the privilege of flying commercial airlines, among many other such anecdotes.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-25   12:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2384. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Jamie Dimon: "That's Why I Am Richer Than You" Tyler Durden's picture Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/27/2013 08:08 -0500

* Fail * Jamie Dimon

There's a reason why Wall Street is so "beloved" by 99% of the people, and that reason is today best summarized by Jamie Dimon's 'witty' retort to Mike Mayo, perhaps the most hated banking analyst, who asked the JPM CEO a simple question - why affluent customers would not pick UBS over JPM due to a mismatch in capital ratios, to which Dimon's response is even simpler: "that's why I'm richer than you."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-02-27   8:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2385. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The F-35 Fighter Boondoggle Is Too Big To Kill

but die, it will.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-03-01   11:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2386. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Shell abandons $4.5 Billion and the Arctic.... :twisted:

[quote]The sea ice in the Beaufort Sea coming apart at the seams, at 5:09 GMT on February 27th 2013[/quote]

econnexus.org/arctic-sea-...racking-under-the-strain/

[quote]According to A-Team: "If taken as a simplistic predictor of the 2013 melt season, we are 51 days ahead of last season." [/quote]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-03-02   12:57:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2387. To: A K A Stone (#0)

i've read the poem by Peter Applebome for International Imitation Hemingway Competition. i can say that's the phrases are totally of good quality but seems theirs still a little bit missing. i just don't what is but some few words that really sounds to capture one's mind.

purchase facebook likes

hughfaxson  posted on  2013-03-21   2:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2388. To: A K A Stone (#0)

lady-t wrote:im moving to the desert now wonder if it will become the sahara before much longer

The SW USSA will become drier with each passing month.

Update: Commenter R. Gates has a firm meteorological grasp of current events, which not only could be influenced by the state of the sea ice, but also have to do with the early breaking down of the Polar Vortex I alluded to in my latest blog post on the cracking event (Arctic freezing season ends with a loud crack). Here's his explanation in a comment below:

There are certainly two dynamics at play in the "weirding" of this winter's weather, but before discussing them, it would probably be good to understand that we are in a new regime of climate and therefore weather patterns, and thus, the weather is only weird compared to some former regime. In other words-- weird is the new norm, and it will be weird in the future not to have blocking patterns and associated extremes that come with climate change.

California water outlook: Sierra snowpack dry and getting drier, 52 ... www.mercurynews.com/.../californias-sie ... ting-drier - Cached 2 days ago ... Despite a profound lack of rain and snow across California since ... That's the lowest reading for the beginning of April of any time since 2007, ...

Phoenix/LV will have to Evac as the Hoover Dam stops producing electricity. At that point, the Navajo/Page Coal Fired Plant comes in.

The NPCFP was built exclusively to move Colorado River Water into the Central Arizona Project.

The NPCFP can provide electricity to Phoenix/LV or water.

Choose One.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-03-31   11:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2389. To: intrepreter, pinguinite (#0)

Never knew Mcgowan was so popular

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-20   21:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2390. To: intrepreter (#2389)

You are like Mcgowanjm. But from a different perspective.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-20   21:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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