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Title: Mcgowanjm Wire 2012
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Published: Feb 26, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-02-26 09:15:13 by A K A Stone
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#915. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#124. To: All (#0)

This will not be your usual Memorial Day Week.....;}

"This isn’t, contra Lagarde about “bad Greeks”, while it is true that Greece should never have been let in to the Euro, well, everyone knew that. Including the countries that let Greece in.

4) Greece is going to have get hardcore and creative about creating a new economy. Since the monetary authorities intend to starve them and deprive them of oil, they must retaliate hard. Greece has a number of options, and this is what Greece should do You don’t play nice with people who are trying to cause a famine in your country.

* Greece has a large fleet. Use it to strip mine the Mediterranean of all resources possible. Yes, the Med is a fragile ecosystem. If the other Euros don’t like it, they can not punish Greece, otherwise Greece will have to feed itself. The Euros could send fleets, but as the British-Iceland fishing war proved, that’s prohibitively expensive.

* Start gun-running and other black market activities up. European gun-running currently goes through Albania. Greece has much better ports. If the Euros don’t like it, they can militarize Greece’s borders at a cost much higher than feeding the Greeks.

* Become a full on black-hole for banking. If anyone wants to store money in Greece, they can. No questions asked, no forms needed.

* Make deals with other “pariah” and semi-pariah nations. Start with Iran and Russia for oil (Iran will be happy to give oil in exchange for black market help). Make a deal with various 2nd world nations for food, start with Argentina, they have no reason to love the IMF or the European Union, which promised to “punish” them for nationalizing oil in Argentina. In exchange Greece can offer use of their fleet, for cheap, and port rights for the Russian navy. They’ve wanted a true warm water port for some time. Offer them a nice island in the Med with a 30 year lease.

* Hold on for a couple years. Odds are that soon enough Ireland, Spain, Portugal and maybe others will leave the Euro. They won’t be in any mood to screw Greece for their ex-Euro masters. Heck, odds are 50/50 that there won’t be a Euro zone at all in 3 years, since Germany wants to screw everyone, including France.

* Nationalize basically every industry. It’s unfortunate, but it’s going to be necessary. Hundreds of billions of dollars have fled Greece in the past 3 years, in fact that was one of the main reasons for dragging out the “bailouts” (really, bailouts of German banks), to let the money flee. All Greek assets are going to be frozen overseas, so the Greeks will need to work with what they have.

* No more money goes out of the country. Slap on currency controls, to make sure what money is there doesn’t leave (this is aimed at Greece’s rich). If any banker or anyone else circumvents them, throw them in jail, the sentence should be life, generous, since they are committing treason.

* Seriously change the tax system, and insist on really taxing the rich. Go to heavily progressive taxation, reduce the burden on the poor (a large number of people now), this will buy support. * A food rationing system, with cards and delivery to every person in the country will be necessary. It won’t be fun, but combined with the above, you can make sure that no one starves.

Greece has been under siege for years now, and traitors within its own country (its politicians) have betrayed it.

http://www.ianwelsh.net/lets-talk-turkey-about-greece/

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-27   10:37:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#916. To: mcgowanjm (#915)

* Become a full on black-hole for banking. If anyone wants to store money in Greece, they can. No questions asked, no forms needed.

Good one.

But seriously. Greece did this to themselves.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-27   10:41:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#918. To: A K A Stone (#916)

Good one.

But seriously. Greece did this to themselves.

Sure. And from that, every man has his/her own flag, own currency.

We all do to ourselves. Each one in our own way.

The individual is the ultimate minority.

That said, we can go back to the macro:

The Euro was dreamed up to bind Germany. So that France would be able to milk Europe.

When France has to go thru the very same regimen as Greece then All of a Sudden it will be anyone but France's fault.

Greece has been ravaged as much or more than any nation in the past 100 years.

And the Top .01% of Greece has made very bad onerous loans at the expense of the Bottom 99% of Greece.

But the Greeks fought the Nazi's to a standstill.

They'll do the same with the French/Germans now....;}

hat4UK lays it out.

You have a choice between food, guns, taxes.

Which will you pay for first.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:33:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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