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#882. To: A K A Stone (#877)

So from your position you must argue that it is possible for all extinct creatures to re evolve at some point in time.

I can backbreed a species, but it would do no good if it's original environment is gone.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-20   7:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#883. To: All (#882)

This escalating US military presence is bound up with the Obama administration’s indispensable role in propping up the regime that took power in June 2009 with the military overthrow of Honduras’s elected president Manuel Zelaya and his forced exile from the country. Washington brokered the deal that led to elections held under the auspices of the coup regime, bringing the right-wing president Porfirio Lobo to power. Those who staged the coup, subsequently carrying out killings, torture and thousands of illegal detentions, have enjoyed complete impunity, while wholesale attacks on democratic and social rights continue unabated.

Since Lobo took office, 23 Honduran journalists have been murdered, the latest being Alfredo Villatoro, the news director for HRN, one of the country’s principal radio stations, whose body was found one week after he was kidnapped on May 9. His was the second murder of a journalist just in the last 11 days. The wave of violence unleashed against peasants, workers, political activists and human rights advocates after the coup has also continued.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-20   9:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#884. To: All (#883)

2 NATO Troops Killed in Afghanistan Rocket Attack VOA News

May 18, 2012 - NATO says a rocket attack in eastern Afghanistan has killed two of its service members.Local coalition officials say six other NATO troops were slightly wounded in Friday in the Nari district of Kunar province. So far this year, at least 154 coalition service members have been killed in Afghanistan....

9 US invaders killed, 8 injured in attack on enemy base; 12 tanks destroyed Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Saturday, 27 Jamadil Akhir 1433 Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:54

KUNAR, May 19 – Early on Friday, Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate conducted an intense onslaught on invaders’ military base in Nari district of Afghanistan’s Kunar province, a Mujahideen’s official said on Friday, adding that Mujahideen used rockets, missiles and heavy machine guns taking the base under attack for about an hour setting the base facility on fire and killing more than 9 invaders as well as wounding another 8, whereas 12 of enemy’s tank caught fire and burned down.

Witnesses to the scene saw flame rising from the base and the ambulance helicopters landing at the site to evacuate the dead and wounded from the area.

US terrorists base attacked with heavy arms fire Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 28 Jamadil Akhir 1433 Sunday, 20 May 2012 10:40

KUNAR, May 20 – Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate attacked the invaders’ military base in Ghazi Abad, Knur province on Sunday morning, whereas no losses of life and injury have been confirmed yet.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-20   9:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#885. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Once listed, all private and public projects that could potentially contribute to a "taking" of the HS species should be immediately halted and reviewed. The critical habitat of the HS species must also be preserved by identifying and protecting "all lands, water and air necessary to recover the endangered species". Given the urgency of this extinction threat to HS - a significant portion of its range could potentially be decimated or wiped out within 50 years - the FWS and other associated federal agencies must act quickly to list the species as endangered and take the necessary measures to preserve it.

Thank you for your consideration,

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-22   22:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#886. To: All (#885)

Human - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumanCached - Similar

The species binomial Homo sapiens was coined by Carl Linnaeus in his 18th ... "Modern humans" are defined as the Homo sapiens species, of which the only ... Human evolution - Timeline of human evolution - Homo sapiens idaltu - Homo

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-22   22:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#887. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Post Tue May 22, 2012 9:38 pm by mcgowanjm Someone is lying as I type this.

You pick 'Em.... :twisted:

16 US-NATO invaders killed, 13 injured in Khost battle Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Tuesday, 01 Rajab 1433 Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:51

KHOST, May 22 – A report says that on Monday morning, US helicopters landed at Gir, an area on the outskirsts of Musahi district, Kabul province and a large number of the invading troops disembarked in an attempt of raid the Mujahideen based in the area but the enemies fell into Mujahideen’s previously laid ambush in which as many as 60 Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate were lying in ambush which unleashed a daylong fighting, ending up killing at least 16 US-NATO invaders and wounded 13 more who were evacuated by the ambulance helicopters.

One of the Mujahids was martyred and two more wounded in the resulting firing during the firefight.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-22   22:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#888. To: mcgowanjm (#887)

I can't find that news item on google...;^)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-22   22:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#889. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#63. To: All (#62) (Edited)

" In Island, Aldous Huxley wrote: “Armaments, universal debt, and planned obsolescence - those are the three pillars of Western prosperity. If war, waste, and moneylenders were abolished, you'd collapse. And while you people are overconsuming the rest of the world sinks more and more deeply into chronic disaster.”

So, I invite you to read a chilling undercover accounting that imparts a visceral impression of what it's like to be a wage-slave in modern America, at Mother Jones. It's a wonderful companion to pair with this brief but pointed TED talk, which has been censored. The transcript is here. There's been a lot of discussion about why TED refused to post this talk on their site. Their curator, Anderson, who has scrambled for plausible explanations offered this one in an email:

"...But even if the talk was rated a home run, we couldn't release it, because it would be unquestionably regarded as out and out political. We're in the middle of an election year in the US. Your argument comes down firmly on the side of one party. And you even reference that at the start of the talk. TED is nonpartisan and is fighting a constant battle with TEDx organizers to respect that principle...."

-Wit's End.

BTW...Wit's doesn't get that billionaires support TED and TED will not bite the hand that feeds them....;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-23 7:57:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #64. To: All (#63)

but they also committed numerous crimes by stealing his hives and equipment and destroying pertinent evidence before a hearing, which Ingram believes may have ultimately been rooted in a deliberate conspiracy by the state to hide the truth about Roundup, and subsequently steal his most vibrant bees. IDofA appears to have targeted Ingram for his research linking Roundup to CCD

Of particular interest was Ingram’s extensive research on Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide, which began several years ago when hundreds of Ingram’s hives had died. He later determined that Roundup sprayings near his property were to blame, which prompted him to actively research the subject and closely monitor his hives in conjunction with this research from that point onward.

What he gathered, and subsequently taught to others, was concrete evidence that Roundup kills bees. He also used this information and his many years of experience to develop and refine ways of growing strong, chemical-free bees in spite of Roundup sprayings, a move that apparently upset IDofA, which operates primarily to serve the interests of chemical companies rather than the interests of the people.

Be sure to read the full Prairie Advocate story about Terry Ingram, which includes a video interview, here: http://www.pacc-news.com/5-2-12/heart_ingram5_2_12.html

Sources for this article include:

www.pacc-news.com/5-2-12/heart_ingram5_2_12.html

www.agr.state.il.us/programs/bees/inspectors.html

www.naturalnews.com

www.naturalnews.com/Roundup.html

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-23 8:00:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #65. To: All (#64)

H-P will post fiscal second-quarter results following media reports that the company was going to eliminate 25,000 to 30,000 jobs, or up to 10% of its workforce. The Palo Alto, Calif.-based company will present both its results and restructuring plan after the closing bell, the source told MarketWatch.

The rich don't create jobs.

They cut them.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-23 8:01:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #66. To: mcgowanjm (#65)

H-P will post fiscal second-quarter results following media reports that the company was going to eliminate 25,000 to 30,000 jobs, or up to 10% of its workforce. The Palo Alto, Calif.-based company will present both its results and restructuring plan after the closing bell, the source told MarketWatch.

The rich don't create jobs.

They cut them.

The 1% is interested in Revenue. And when the entire world is your labor pool, you don't necessarily create jobs HERE. This is very simple, and was described years ago as The Race To The Bottom.

Hewlett-Packard to axe up to 30,000 jobs (Remember Meg Whitman?) Score: 97 Post Date: 2012-05-18 10:02:55 by Robin 0 Comments Computer and software company expected to cut 8% of workforce as consumers ditch bulky PCs in favour of tablets Rupert Neate guardian.co.uk, Friday 18 May 2012 04.47 EDT May 2012 04.47 EDT HP chief executive Meg Whitman is set to announce a restructuring plan next week. Photograph: ChinaFotoPress via Getty Images ...

Robin posted on 2012-05-23 8:07:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #67. To: Robin (#66)

No one's creating jobs anywhere.

China's collapsing.

Watch for the 'migration' reports of 10's of millions moving back into the hinterland.

To only discover that the Hinterland has been ecocided.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-23   8:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#890. To: Fred Mertz (#888)

There's alot of news you can't find now.

http://www.shahamat-english.com/

During those two terrible years between Kerry’s statement and the end of US combat operations, American soldiers stationed in Vietnam knew that the war was lost, and knew they were there for no reason other than keeping President Nixon from looking like he had lost a war, particularly as he faced re-election during the campaign year of 1972. There was, understandably, massive resort to drugs, including marijuana, opium, heroin, LSD and others, as well as alcohol. There was the fragging of commanding officers who were too aggressive about sending their troops into danger. There was insubordination and insurrection and there was desertion.

Now consider the situation in Afghanistan. Once again a war has been lost by the US, this time to forces far weaker and more poorly organized than the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese army. Once again American troops are being asked to keep fighting for a mistake -- this time the 2001 fantasy of the Bush/Cheney administration that it could make a client state out of Afghanistan, a mistake that President Obama doubled down on after taking over the White House, when he called Afghanistan the "good war" and committed another 30,000 troops there, plus ordering up an aggressive kill campaign of night raids, assassinations and the heavy use of pilotless armed drone aircraft.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-23   8:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#891. To: Fred Mertz (#888) (Edited)

I can't find that news item on google...;^)

Betcha don't see much about this one either.

JPMorgan and the Afghans are mirror images of each other.

When Jamie Dimon helicopters off the JP Morgan roof... Wall St collpases.

www.independent.co.uk/new...d-exceed-7bn-7771347.html

Double trouble at JP Morgan: trader's losses could exceed $7bn US bank has cancelled its plan for a share buyback in the wake of the growing crisis

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-23   8:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#892. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Spanish banks are in the redline, the regional governments are past the point of peril and the Federal government has neither the capital nor the ability to raise the amount of money that is required. In the greatest of Spanish traditions the Prime Minister is engaged in a fight to the death as he tells all who will listen that it is nothing but windmills."

-mark grant

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-23   9:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#893. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#70. To: All (#0)

the right wing hate machine.

we are willing to update the offending post if George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina makes a public apology to Sandra Fluke, and not one of those bullshit, “I apologize if you were offended because I called you a under-rock-dwelling dick sucking cunt” kind of apologies. No, that will not do.

The Downward Spiral: The Internet's Awesome Power To Humiliate billhicksisdead.blogspot....esome-power-to-humiliat...

45 minutes ago – I am the george tierney that made the comments to sandra fluke, not to you..take it off google. ... we are willing to update the offending post if George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina makes a public apology to Sandra Fluke, and not one of those bullshit, “I apologize if you were offended because I called ...

Internet Man Does Not Want To Be On The ... - TBogg - Firedoglake tbogg.firedoglake.com/......t-to-be-on-the-g...Cached

3 days ago – And here is Sandra Fluke's response to George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina's aforementioned Magic with George Tierney of ...

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-24 7:55:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #71. To: All (#70)

Update5/22: The Saga continues)

Update on the update 5/22: The final episode. Or is it…?

Hi. I’m back and, no, I didn’t bring presents.

So where were we?

Oh yes. Recently (May 8th to be exact) I did a post on potty-mouthed golf caddy George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina who, for some reason, took offense when Sandra Fluke went on Twitter and voiced her support for a bill that would protect the rights of working women when they get pregnant.

Let’s relive The Magic That Is George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina When He Talks To The Ladies, shall we? :

LMAO

The George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina Kerfuffle: For Teh ... www.rawstory.com/.../geor...outh-carolina-ke...Cached

2 days ago – TBogg has a post up over at Firedoglake that is balls-to-the-wall hilarious. You see, George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina doesn't quite ...

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-24   7:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#894. To: mcgowanjm (#893)

Fluke is a slut and a piece of dog shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-24   8:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#895. To: A K A Stone (#0)

May 23, 2012

Just as most American mistakenly believe their country has the highest living standard in the world, they also swear that the U.S. is the ultimate in democracy. They also realize that the Golden Rule applies, here: those who have the gold, rule. But the contradiction does not phase them. And, largely because Americans cling to the myth of democracy rather than face the fact of plutocracy, "we know for certain that we will end up with a corporatist president who will keep our country and the world in a perpetual state of war."

Most Americans are convinced, mistakenly, that they live in a democratic nation."

Margaret Kimberley's Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR, and is widely reprinted elsewhere. She maintains a frequently updated blog as well as at

freedomrider.blogspot.com. Ms.

Kimberley lives in New York City, and can be reached via e-Mail at

Margaret.Kimberley(at)BlackAgendaReport.com.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-24   8:46:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#896. To: A K A Stone (#894)

LMFAO, A K A....;}

#893. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#70. To: All (#0)

the right wing hate machine.

we are willing to update the offending post if George Tierney of Greenville South Carolina makes a public apology to Sandra Fluke, and not one of those bullshit, “I apologize if you were offended because I called you a under-rock-dwelling dick sucking cunt” kind of apologies. No, that will not do.

The Downward Spiral: The Internet's Awesome Power To Humiliate billhicksisdead.blogspot....esome-power-to-humiliat...

45 minutes ago – I am the george tierney that made the comments to sandra fluke, not to you..take it off google......

WWJD....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-24   9:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#897. To: All (#896)

Thursday, May 24, 2012 "JPMorgan’s Senior Officers’ Addiction to Gambling on Derivatives" by William K. Black:

"Big wins from gambling in financial derivatives can only come from enormous, extremely risky gambles. A bank that makes enormous, extremely risky gambles is a bank that desperately needs to have its senior management team removed – immediately – and that is true regardless of how those bets turn out in any particular year. There is no conceivable social purpose to providing the explicit federal subsidy of deposit insurance and the (much larger) implicit federal subsidy of “too big to fail” that all SDIs enjoy to a bank so that it can take massive gambles on financial derivatives.

The Jamie Dimons of the world know that if they win the gambles they will be made immensely wealthy and that when they lose the gambles massively the federal government will bail them out.

Every gamble a federally insured bank (or an implicitly guaranteed SDI) takes is a gamble with government money. Bank leverage is always extreme in the modern era; it vastly exceeds the reported (and often inflated) capital. The government is the true creditor through its explicit and implicit guarantees of the bank’s creditors."

The Rich are job Creators.

Well, except if you're Meg Whitman and HP.....Lulz....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-24   9:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#898. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

You didn't know me back in 2005.

Had some hellacious knock down drag outs with some Top 1%er's who were adamant that New Orleans would recover and be better than ever......

Told ya New Orleans was dead.

Katrina and the MS River Flood and the USbpEcocide.

That'll do it everytime.

New Orleans May Soon Become First Major City Without A Daily Newspaper

The New Orleans Times-Picayune is facing massive budget cuts, including "wholesale layoffs" and a reduction in the publishing schedule that would leave the city without a daily print newspaper. The report from David Carr of The New York Times says that the paper's owner, Newhouse Newspapers, will likely cut the publishing days to two or three a week and replace or let go many of its top editors. According to the website Best of New Orleans, reporters who do stay will face "sharp salary cuts" and be expected to post most of their content online at the paper's website, Nola.com.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   6:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#899. To: mcgowanjm (#898)

Top 1%er's

Were you calling them 1 percenters back then?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-25   7:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#900. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Why World Markets have 'rallied' in the Last 3 Days.....;}

Germany has agreed to set up an EU FDIC to stop PIIGS Bank runs....unconstitutional....;}

The USSA has agreed to backstop JP Morgan's $90 Trillion Synthetic Debt Derivatives....;}

O, and the Grexit won't be so bad....;}

All False....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   8:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#901. To: A K A Stone (#899)

Were you calling them 1 percenters back then?

Ever since I've been here.

Pre OWSER movement, I was calling the Bottom 99%, the Bottom 90%....

Mainly because after 90%, you start getting into Chaos Theory numbers.....on the way to 100% which you never reach....;}

So saying the Top 1%, when really the fucker's so skewed that you can ID the Top 10 000 from their IRS forms (the reason IRS does NOT break them out.....

is Really working with Atomic Numbers.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   8:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#902. To: A K A Stone, All (#899)

Top 1%er's

Were you calling them 1 percenters back then?

Feel free, Stone.....and thanx for asking.

;}

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   8:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#903. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#91. To: Robin, All (#90)

And if you want the actual Transmission Belt of the Political Machine and how the Plutarchy has captured DC....

"Speaking fee money isn’t just money, it is easy money. In one appearance, for one hour, Clinton can make $125,000 to $500,000. At an hourly rate, that’s between $250 million to $1 billion annually. It isn’t the case that Clinton is a billionaire, but it is the case that Clinton can, whenever he wants, make money as quickly and as easily as a billionaire. He is awash in cash, and cash is useful. Cash finances his lifestyle. Cash helped backstop his wife’s Presidential campaign when it was on the ropes.

And these speaking fees aren’t the only money Clinton got, it’s just the easiest cash to find because of disclosure laws. Apparently, Clinton’s firm apparently had a paid $100k+ a month consulting relationship with MF Global, and Clinton and Tony Blair have teamed up to help hedge funds raise money. His daughter worked for a giant hedge fund and political ally (Avenue Capital). And Clinton has unusual relationships with billionaires and Dubai-based investors.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are the best at what they do, but they aren’t the only ones who do it. In fact, this is what politics is increasingly about, not elections, but staying in the club.

Erskine Bowles, former White House Chief of Staff, lost two Senate elections. But he’s on the board of Facebook and Morgan Stanley, as well as authoring the highly influential Simpson-Bowles plan to gut Social Security and Medicare. Tom Daschle, who lost a Senate race in 2004, is a millionaire who in large part crafted Obama’s health care plan.

Former Senator Judd Gregg is now at Goldman Sachs. Current Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel made $12 million in between his stint at the Clinton White House which ended in 2000 and his election to Congress in 2002.

Former Congressman Harold Ford, now at Morgan Stanley, is routinely on TV making political claims. Larry Summers is on the board of the high-flying start-up Square.

Meanwhile, Russ Feingold, a Senator who did go after Wall Street, is a professor in the Midwest. Eliot Spitzer is a struggling TV host and writer."

www.nakedcapitalism.com/2...ns-80-million-payday.html

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   9:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#904. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The concept of backwardation is simple. It is when people accept a future promise to deliver only at a discount to physical stuff handed over right now. This could be when there is a shortage, such as wheat before the harvest. Or in the case of gold, backwardation signifies a collapse in trust. But isn’t this the same phenomenon of a tectonic rift between paper dollars and electronic deposits?

In a certain sense, the “money you can fold” behaves like a physical commodity, a present good (I realize I am stretching the concept here more than a bit). The electronic deposit credit is most definitely a future promise. In my gold backwardation thesis, the action begins with the offer on the futures contract falling below the bid on spot gold. The bid-ask spread on spot gold widens, as the offer is relentlessly advancing, pulling the bid behind it.

www.acting-man.com/?p=17058#more-17058

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-25   10:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#905. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Speaking of things I've been typing about for a while.

That's what your, 'how long have you been using the 'Top 1%' aphorism, reminded me of.

And how none of us Dirty Fuckin Hippies EVER get credit for a God Damn thing.....;}.....even though we get the shite for it 24/7....;}.

And so I was looking at a finite planet with an exploding human footprint article, with oil production flat since 2005, and thought of the desperation of Big Oil.....

which IMMEDIATELY brought to mind the USbpEcocide.

I started to google for bp PO, because everyone knows what PO is.... thanx to us Dirty Fuckin' Hippies....

But GOOGLE does not.

Instead at the very top a 'How can bp help make the world a better place' URL.

And then ANYTHING I typed after bp brought up the same URL.

So I typed this search:

bp fucked

LMFAO

Didn't see that God Damn 'bp Helps' URL this time.

I love the word FUCKED. Has unlimited meanings but EVERYONE knows EXACTLY what you're talkin' about and in what context Every Single Time.

Even a moron software program like google:

http://www.google.com/search?q=b...0e18db6c5&biw=820&bih=451

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2...in-charge-in-gulf-so.html

News for lafitte shrimp 2012 news

Kansas City Star

1. Gulf fishermen reel from seafood troubles

Long Island Press‎ - 1 day ago Thursday 5/24/2012 10:21 AM ... By Associated Press on May 24th, 2012. LAFITTE, La. ... In Lafitte, they said the new shrimp season was off to a slow start.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   8:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#906. To: A K A Stone (#0)

House Bill HR. 4133. www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr4133

Senate Bill: S. 2165 www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s2165

The U.S.-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012 is now under review by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. …

Click for Full Text!

#1. To: Peo111 (#0)

If we survive, the Archives will be full of the following.

Replace the Leading Characters/Nations with Today's USSA/Israel fools....;}

World War I, German Dispatches and the Kaiser's Notes www.gwpda.org/1914/wilnotes.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 7, 1996 – DISPATCHES ANNOTATIONS BY THE KAISER. VIENNA, June 30, 1914. Dispatch from the Ger- man Ambassador at Vienna. (German ...

World War I, German Dispatches and the Kaiser's Notes net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/1914/wilnotes.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 7, 1996 – DISPATCHES ANNOTATIONS BY THE KAISER. VIENNA, June 30, 1914. Dispatch from the Ger- man Ambassador at Vienna. (German ...

REPROVES GERMAN AGITATORS.; Kaiser's Ambassador to ... query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res... You +1'd this publicly. Undo ... says the Vienna correspondent of The Times. In speaking at the German colony s banquet in celebration of the Kaiser's birthday, the Ambassador tendered ...

First World War.com - Primary Documents - Kaiser Wilhelm on ... www.firstworldwar.com/sou...kaiserscomments.htmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Kaiser Wilhelm II and sons Reproduced below are a series of telegrams sent by Baron Tschirschky - German ambassador in Vienna - to the German Kaiser, ...

Trenches on the Web - Timeline: Jul-1914: The July Crisis www.worldwar1.com/tlplot.htmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jan 15, 2000 – German Ambassador to Vienna, Count Heinrich von Tschirschky, warns ... The twenty day cruise had been planned for months and the Kaiser ...

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-26 8:23:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: Peo111 (#0)

Charlie Madison via Arthur Silber...powerofnarrative blog:

"Many Americans, at least those who prefer to think of themselves as intelligent and well-informed, are willing to laugh at their own idiocies.

They are not so ready to admit that their desperately loved self-conception, an idealized view of themselves and their country that they cling to with the neurotic terror of the criminal who fears exposure at any moment,

disguises a fact that has assumed awful, overwhelming clarity to much of the rest of the world: that Americans are among the most vicious killers who have ever lived.

"It’s not war that’s unnatural to us – it’s virtue. As long as valor remains a virtue, we shall have soldiers. So, I preach cowardice. Through cowardice, we shall all be saved.

...

I don’t trust people who make bitter reflections about war. ... It’s always the generals with the bloodiest records who are the first to shout what a Hell it is.

And it’s always the widows who lead the Memorial Day parades … we shall never end wars ... by blaming it on ministers and generals or warmongering imperialists or all the other banal bogies.

It’s the rest of us who build statues to those generals and name boulevards after those ministers; the rest of us who make heroes of our dead and shrines of our battlefields. We wear our widows’ weeds like nuns and perpetuate war by exalting its sacrifices. My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved.

They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   8:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#907. To: All (#905)

I don’t trust people who make bitter reflections about war. ... It’s always the generals with the bloodiest records who are the first to shout what a Hell it is. And it’s always the widows who lead the Memorial Day parades … we shall never end wars ... by blaming it on ministers and generals or warmongering imperialists or all the other banal bogies. It’s the rest of us who build statues to those generals and name boulevards after those ministers; the rest of us who make heroes of our dead and shrines of our battlefields. We wear our widows’ weeds like nuns and perpetuate war by exalting its sacrifices. My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved. They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud.

...

[Y]ou see, now my other brother can’t wait to reach enlistment age. That’ll be in September. May be ministers and generals who blunder us into wars, but the least the rest of us can do is to resist honoring the institution. What has my mother got for pretending bravery was admirable? She’s under constant sedation and terrified she may wake up one morning and find her last son has run off to be brave.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   8:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#908. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

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Post Sat May 26, 2012 8:31 am by mcgowanjm Re: 2012 Annual Energy Outlook (AEO2012) Early Release Refer

Picasso Moon wrote:Jeffrey Brown's recent posting also thoroughly trashed EIA numbers, see separate thread.

And Gail Tverberg doesn't get it. Per EnergyBulletin.

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Figure 3. Crude oil production vs Brent oil spot price, in US $, based on EIA data.

Even with the higher production in 2012, and with growing “other liquids” production (not shown), crude oil production has not been sufficient to bring oil prices back to the $60 a barrel or less range that we were comfortable with prior to 2006.

She also states:

"According to EIA data, crude oil production in 2005 averaged 73.6 million barrels a day. It has grown very little since then. Crude oil production for 2011 averaged 74.0 million barrels a day. In the first two months of 2012, crude oil production was higher yet, averaging 75.6 million barrels a day."

Bakhtiar: "Once you're pumping flat out, reserves are meaningless.'

And of course never an EROEI breakout of these numbers.

So my SocioPoliticalOilWatershed theory (TM;):

That Every oil discovery/production watershed is marked EXACTLY and INSTANTLY by a SocialPolitical Event.

On the way up the parabolic and so on the way down.

And per Orlov, the 'On the Way Down' part of the curve is going to be messy Non Linear.

Could happen at anytime.

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Post Sat May 26, 2012 8:40 am by mcgowanjm Re: 2012 Annual Energy Outlook (AEO2012) Early Release Refer I'm thinking of revising my reversion price to $22 the BBL, but I'll stick with my present price of

$40 the BBL until I see how the Non Linear break pans out..... :roll: :twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   9:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#909. To: A K A Stone (#0)

And about that Evac of the GOM....;}

Title: The Associated Press: 2 years later, fish sick near BP oil spill site Source: AP Author: CAIN BURDEAU Date: Apr. 19, 2012

Open sores. Parasitic infections. Chewed-up-looking fins. Gashes. Mysterious black streaks. Two years after the drilling-rig explosion that touched off the biggest offshore oil spill in U.S. history, scientists are beginning to suspect that fish in the Gulf of Mexico are suffering the effects of the petroleum.

The evidence is nowhere near conclusive. But if those suspicions prove correct, it could mean that the environmental damage to the Gulf from the BP disaster is still unfolding and the picture isn't as rosy as it might have seemed just a year ago.

And the damage may extend well beyond fish. In the past year, research has emerged showing deep-water coral, seaweed beds, dolphins, mangroves and other species of plants and animals are suffering. [...]

Read the report here.....

So I click on the Hot Link AND.......

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gdkmCejVkHtKL-KDVX4aYymbokdA?docId=217fa037cbd546d9a8d6031df008814c

The Associated Press The article requested is no longer available.

Just...can't...quite...find....the....room.....to....cache....LMFAO

When Truth is Replaced by Silence.

No wonder so many think the economy is recovering.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   9:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#910. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#3. To: Robin (#2)

We do not want to.

Nothing is harder than to make someone understand who is paid not to understand.

We USans live in the belly of the beast.

LMFAO with the following find.

More Bad News: Gulf Oil Slick Is Vanishing Quickly : Environment ... peakoil.com/.../more-bad-...shing-quickly-t5...Cached

15 posts - 5 authors - Jul 29, 2010 Che Guevara-"I envy you, NorteAmericanos, for you live within the belly of the Beast." There I fixed it. And btw, so you're not surprised, the ...

I know that's my post w/o even looking it up....;} BTW, they unceremoniously kicked me out shortly after....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   9:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#911. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Exactly what Biden and the USSAMedia did yesterday:

" If we were genuinely concerned with honoring those who have died in war, we would make it our sacred task to eradicate the causes of war.

Of course, many Americans -- including most notably our leading politicians -- couldn't care less about truly honoring those whose guts have been ripped out, whose limbs have been bloodily and painfully mutilated, whose minds have been destroyed. For the state and its enablers, the war dead are props used to purify and sanctify the ongoing and future campaigns of slaughter, in an endless procession of slaughters throughout history.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   10:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#912. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Re: PEAK OIL, TOTAL COLLAPSE, AND THE ROAD TO THE OLDUVAI

Post Sat May 26, 2012 9:43 am by mcgowanjm

Why aren't we celebrating the fact that oil has collapsed from $107 to $90?

And that America is using 4 MMBD less than in 2007?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   10:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#913. To: A K A Stone (#0)

www.uruknet.de/?p=m88348&hd=&size=1&l=e

That Tweet reads: 'The Russian bikers detained in Iraq are at the Embassy of the Russian Federation [in Baghdad]. Motorcylces have not been returned yet. Thanks to everyone who helped.' The Moscow Times notes, "[Russian President Vladimir] Putin has been forging good relations with the biker community in the past two years, riding motorcycles and attending biker events." RIA Novosti adds, "The four men will leave for Russia on Saturday morning, the bikers' lawyer Alexander Orlov, also a member of the Moscow-based motorcycle club Rolling Anarchy MCC (RAMCC), told RIA Novosti."

As many are noticing, the US press has ignored the story completely. That may be due to the fact that there's a detail that's inconsistent -- not on-message -- with Barack Obama's current campaign for a second term as US President. Ekaterina Saviba (Gazeta) reports it today:

They came to Iraq on May 17 and were detained by the Iraqi military on May 20. "Our attempt to go towards Baghdad failed because of Yanks in Hummers – they didn't let us in. Our guys decided to go round the American checkpoints and pass north of them," report motorcyclists' friends on the Russian motorcycling forum Ruriders.ru. "They managed to ride several dozen kilometers a day, while having long heartfelt conversations with local authorities, all while the outside temperature was 42 Celsius."

Again, that was also in yesterday's reports. The Russian bikers, en route to Baghdad, were unable to enter the city and had to go around due to Americans blocking them in Hummers, due to American checkpoints. The 20th was Sunday and the US may have activated some branch still in Iraq (there are many) to put up checkpoints in advance of the meet-up in Baghdad. They may have pulled the units stationed outside of Iraq -- in Kuwait for example -- back in to set up those checkpoints.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   10:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#914. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#122. To: lucysmom (#116)

Rush Limbaugh, speaking for the 1%, said they deserved the biggest tax cut because they paid the most taxes.

OK, I've got a better idea.

Which is how the 'income tax' amendment, which was illegally ratified btw, even got as far as it did:

How about no one but the Top 1% PAY income tax....;}

And another btw:

The Top 1% only got what they have per the Social Contract which the Top 1% unilaterally tore up with Reaganomics.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-27 9:06:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #123. To: Robin (#117)

The quote in italics is from here:

peakoil.com/consumption/c...elers-this-memorial-day/..

Which is AP's Annual Memorial Day Gas Prices Speel.

I've juxtaposed it with the Cracked.com article per billhicksisdead.blogspot to show just how out of touch the Top <1% are with the Bottom 99%.....;}

" But for the overwhelming majority of the globe, it's just gibberish horseshit spraying from the mouth of an ultra-privileged, out of touch alien. You can't give advice based on a lifestyle that's only shared by a single-digit percentage of the globe and expect to be taken seriously.

"But what about the things that don't take a huge bank account to do, like dieting tips and workout regimens?" asks all of Hollywood in unison. "Surely we could have something valuable to say there."

#4. They Literally Pay People to Live Their Lives for Them

#3. Their Day-to-Day Life Bears No Resemblance to Yours

#2. They Are Experts at Appearing Smarter Than They Actually Are

#1. They Have Nobody to Tell Them They're Wrong It's just so sad that so many people out there are such blind followers

A drop in gas prices encouraged Americans to spend more at restaurants and bars in April. And that trend could continue over the holiday.

MY EDIT: There's not one factoid in the PO article explaining just how exactly 'Americans' (AP's words for us dumb schmucks;}

Pump prices are down 27 cents since their peak in early April, to $3.67 a gallon, where they’re likely to stay this weekend, predicts Tom Kloza, the chief oil analyst at the Oil Price Information Service. That’s 12 cents cheaper than last year. Over the weekend, U.S. drivers will burn about 1.2 billion gallons of gasoline – and spend $144 million less on gas than last year

peakoil.com/consumption/c...elers-this-memorial-day/..

PERFECT lead in:

"Robin wrote:

To: lucysmom

And those who would benefit the most from the revenue generated by those increased taxes on the 1%: in improved public transportation, healthcare, govt jobs programs and infrastructure projects, education; are cheering for the 1% that they will NEVER be a part of. They won't even be hired to wash the toilets of the 1%.

The 1% must get a slight chuckle out of it, in the odd moments when they might bother to think about these poor, stupid idiots. SUCKERS!!!!

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-27 9:09:40 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-27   9:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#915. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#124. To: All (#0)

This will not be your usual Memorial Day Week.....;}

"This isn’t, contra Lagarde about “bad Greeks”, while it is true that Greece should never have been let in to the Euro, well, everyone knew that. Including the countries that let Greece in.

4) Greece is going to have get hardcore and creative about creating a new economy. Since the monetary authorities intend to starve them and deprive them of oil, they must retaliate hard. Greece has a number of options, and this is what Greece should do You don’t play nice with people who are trying to cause a famine in your country.

* Greece has a large fleet. Use it to strip mine the Mediterranean of all resources possible. Yes, the Med is a fragile ecosystem. If the other Euros don’t like it, they can not punish Greece, otherwise Greece will have to feed itself. The Euros could send fleets, but as the British-Iceland fishing war proved, that’s prohibitively expensive.

* Start gun-running and other black market activities up. European gun-running currently goes through Albania. Greece has much better ports. If the Euros don’t like it, they can militarize Greece’s borders at a cost much higher than feeding the Greeks.

* Become a full on black-hole for banking. If anyone wants to store money in Greece, they can. No questions asked, no forms needed.

* Make deals with other “pariah” and semi-pariah nations. Start with Iran and Russia for oil (Iran will be happy to give oil in exchange for black market help). Make a deal with various 2nd world nations for food, start with Argentina, they have no reason to love the IMF or the European Union, which promised to “punish” them for nationalizing oil in Argentina. In exchange Greece can offer use of their fleet, for cheap, and port rights for the Russian navy. They’ve wanted a true warm water port for some time. Offer them a nice island in the Med with a 30 year lease.

* Hold on for a couple years. Odds are that soon enough Ireland, Spain, Portugal and maybe others will leave the Euro. They won’t be in any mood to screw Greece for their ex-Euro masters. Heck, odds are 50/50 that there won’t be a Euro zone at all in 3 years, since Germany wants to screw everyone, including France.

* Nationalize basically every industry. It’s unfortunate, but it’s going to be necessary. Hundreds of billions of dollars have fled Greece in the past 3 years, in fact that was one of the main reasons for dragging out the “bailouts” (really, bailouts of German banks), to let the money flee. All Greek assets are going to be frozen overseas, so the Greeks will need to work with what they have.

* No more money goes out of the country. Slap on currency controls, to make sure what money is there doesn’t leave (this is aimed at Greece’s rich). If any banker or anyone else circumvents them, throw them in jail, the sentence should be life, generous, since they are committing treason.

* Seriously change the tax system, and insist on really taxing the rich. Go to heavily progressive taxation, reduce the burden on the poor (a large number of people now), this will buy support. * A food rationing system, with cards and delivery to every person in the country will be necessary. It won’t be fun, but combined with the above, you can make sure that no one starves.

Greece has been under siege for years now, and traitors within its own country (its politicians) have betrayed it.

http://www.ianwelsh.net/lets-talk-turkey-about-greece/

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-27   10:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#916. To: mcgowanjm (#915)

* Become a full on black-hole for banking. If anyone wants to store money in Greece, they can. No questions asked, no forms needed.

Good one.

But seriously. Greece did this to themselves.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-27   10:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#917. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#127. To: All (#126) (Edited)

The abolition of historical memory is one of the worst aspects of modernity: it is certainly the most depressing. For the modern man, it’s an effort to recall what happened last week, never mind the last century. The news cycle spins madly and ever-faster, and the result is that we are lost in the blur of Now: for all intents and purposes, we are a people without a history, who recall past events – if we remember them at all – as one would summon a vague and confusing dream.

That's from Justion Raimondo at

antiwar.com

But it could be from any of several writers this AM....;}

As a Historian I can lovingly tell you that the first Rule of History is this:

Those that forget history are doomed to repeat it.

But I take Robin's optimistic bent to say this:

Humans go no where until History is learned. And as humans forget they become like dogs chasing there own tails....;}

Which is why I love History.

Rule 2:

Humans will learn History. It's up to Humans on how you do it. But you will learn it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#918. To: A K A Stone (#916)

Good one.

But seriously. Greece did this to themselves.

Sure. And from that, every man has his/her own flag, own currency.

We all do to ourselves. Each one in our own way.

The individual is the ultimate minority.

That said, we can go back to the macro:

The Euro was dreamed up to bind Germany. So that France would be able to milk Europe.

When France has to go thru the very same regimen as Greece then All of a Sudden it will be anyone but France's fault.

Greece has been ravaged as much or more than any nation in the past 100 years.

And the Top .01% of Greece has made very bad onerous loans at the expense of the Bottom 99% of Greece.

But the Greeks fought the Nazi's to a standstill.

They'll do the same with the French/Germans now....;}

hat4UK lays it out.

You have a choice between food, guns, taxes.

Which will you pay for first.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#919. To: mcgowanjm (#917)

we are a people without a history, who recall past events – if we remember them at all – as one would summon a vague and confusing dream.

That's from Justion Raimondo at

Oh, bullshit. I can tell you where I was when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and I can tell you what my father told me about WWI and what my grandfather told me about the Spanish American War and I can tell you how a very great great uncle died in the French and Indian War...

...and, I can tell you what I know about Ancient Greece and the Roman Empire and I am not a history major.

And Justin from 'anti-war' is the one dreaming.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-28   9:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#920. To: harrowup (#919)

Oh, bullshit. I can tell you where I was when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor

So the British/Netherlands Embassy radioed/telegraphed that the Japanese Fleet had left Yokohama Bay.

The US had broken both the diplomatic and Japanese Naval Code months before.

Author William Peter Grasso on alternate publishing and alternate ... www.examiner.com/.../auth...n-alternate-publ...Cached

Jan 8, 2012 – The book's title comes from the actual words of the coded signal authorizing the attack on Pearl Harbor – East Wind Rain -- which was ...

The USS Lexington sailed from Pearl Harbor less than 2 weeks before the attack.

Against the repeated calls from the Pearl Harbor Commander for more air cover.

Not one Carrier was anywhere near Pearl on December 7.

Not one modern warship.

And on and on.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#921. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Military-Industrial Complex Porn: Congress To Spend More On Tanks Than The Pentagon Wants

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   7:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#922. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Many thanx, Robin

As I know my family, I know that the bush's got their start thru this.

IT ALL rings true, right down to their method of criminalizing/'he's mentally unbalanced' dirt in the face methods.....;}

"While there is no suggestion (bullsite. I'm 'suggesting it, asshole...;}

that Prescott Bush was sympathetic (look up fascvist in the dictionary and see Poppy Bush;}

to the Nazi cause In 1941, Thyssen fled Germany after falling out with Hitler but he was captured in France and detained for the remainder of the war.

(Now THAT's the first time I've heard that. Right there is Everything you need to know. I'd like to know what the disagreement was about. And be a fly on the wall of that discussion.....;}

Erwin May, a treasury attache and officer for the department of investigation in the APC, was assigned to look into UBC's business. The first fact to emerge was that Roland Harriman, Prescott Bush and the other directors didn't actually own their shares in UBC but merely held them on behalf of Bank voor Handel. Strangely, no one seemed to know who owned the Rotterdam-based bank, including UBC's president. Even then it could be argued that BBH was within its rights continuing business relations with the Thyssens until the end of 1941 as the US was still technically neutral until the attack on Pearl Harbor.

(So did Thyssen leave Germany before or after Pearl Harbour?....;}

The trouble started on July 30 1942 when the New York Herald-Tribune ran an article entitled "Hitler's Angel Has $3m in US Bank". UBC's huge gold purchases had raised suspicions that the bank was in fact a "secret nest egg" hidden in New York for Thyssen Jones recommended that the assets be liquidated for the benefit of the government, but instead UBC was maintained intact (!!!!!)

and eventually returned to the American shareholders after the war. (!!!!!)

Some claim that Bush sold his share in UBC after the war for $1.5m - a huge amount of money at the time - but there is no documentary evidence to support this claim. No further action was ever taken nor was the investigation continued,

*****despite the fact UBC was caught red-handed operating a American shell company for the Thyssen family eight months after America had entered the war and that this was the bank that had partly financed Hitler's rise to power. The most tantalising part of the story remains shrouded in mystery:*******

(The Only 'mystery' is why the case was stopped cold.....;}

the connection, if any, between Prescott Bush, Thyssen, Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC) and Auschwitz. "The Consolidated Silesian Steel Company situation has become increasingly complicated, and I have accordingly brought in

"Sullivan and Cromwell"

HUGE law firm implicated in the Truman Doctrine. Still alive and well. Their fingers in more pies than Goldman/Sachs....;},

in order to be sure that our interests are protected," wrote Knight. "After studying the situation Foster Dulles But the ownership of the CSSC between 1939 when the Germans invaded Poland and 1942 when the US government vested UBC and SAC is not clear.

"SAC held coal mines and definitely owned CSSC between 1934 and 1935, but when SAC was vested there was no trace of CSSC. All concrete evidence of its ownership disappears after 1935 and there are only a few traces in 1938 and 1939," says Eva Schweitzer, the journalist and author whose book, America and the Holocaust, is published next month.

::::::

Silesia was quickly made part of the German Reich after the invasion, but while Polish factories were seized by the Nazis, those belonging to the still neutral Americans (and some other nationals) were treated more carefully as Hitler was still hoping to persuade the US to at least sit out the war as a neutral country.

:::::

Schweitzer says American interests were dealt with on a case-by-case basis. The Nazis bought some out, but not others.

Ford Motor Truck Plant was srutinized by the Nazis, but they found that Germany could not make Ford Trucks any faster or better than Ford.....;}

"The Union Banking Corporation was a holding company for the Nazis, for Fritz Thyssen," said Loftus. "At various times, the Bush family has tried to spin it, saying they were owned by a Dutch bank and it wasn't until the Nazis took over Holland that they realised that now the Nazis controlled the apparent company and that is why the Bush supporters claim when the war was over they got their money back.

BULL SHITE

Both the American treasury investigations and the intelligence investigations in Europe completely bely that, it's absolute horseshit. They always knew who the ultimate beneficiaries were."

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"There is no one left alive who could be prosecuted but they did get away with it," said Loftus. "As a former federal prosecutor, I would make a case for Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and Averill Harriman [to be prosecuted] for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany." Loftus said Prescott Bush must have been aware of what was happening in Germany at the time.

"My take on him was that he was a not terribly successful in-law who did what Herbert Walker told him to. Walker and Harriman were the two evil geniuses, they didn't care about the Nazis any more than they cared about their

(Sound Familiar? Poppy Bush cries in front of the Fla Leg knowing that he made the wrong son POTUS....8D)

investments with the Bolsheviks." "the essential facts have appeared on the internet and in relatively obscure books but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes". Buchanan suffers from hypermania, a form of manic depression, and when he found himself rebuffed in his initial efforts to interest the media, he responded with a series of threats against the journalists and media outlets that had spurned him. The threats, contained in e-mails, suggested that he would expose the journalists as "traitors to the truth". Unsurprisingly, he soon had difficulty getting his calls returned.

See Fortunate Son author commits suicide for details....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   8:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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