Title: Mcgowanjm Wire 2012 Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Feb 26, 2012 Author:Various Post Date:2012-02-26 09:15:13 by A K A Stone Keywords:None Views:1373548 Comments:2390
"I waste no time rebutting creationists or alchemists, either. Monktons blather is garbage, not science, and not worthy of my comment and no more worthy of space than witchcraft or voodoo on this site either."
Other comments that followed protesting his fatuous drivel became so unruly that the thread was closed by the editor. It caused me to think about the idiocy of the perpetual debate between climate activists and deniers, and compare it to all the palaver and bombast over religion. Does anybody any longer debate Thor's existence - or that of the many deities of ancient Egypt, or Rome? Surely there have been a greater number of gods invented than all the myriad tribes which have existed throughout human history...and no doubt the adherents of those hundreds, maybe thousands of obsolete religions believed just as fervently in the omnipotence of their gods as Christians, Muslims, and Jews do today.
Doesn't that mere fact make it beyond obvious that belief in gods is utterly specious, and invented by humans for their own purposes (usually nefarious)? Frankly, it amazes me that otherwise intelligent, educated contemporaries can profess a belief in any sort of god when it's so abundantly clear that people just make that s**t up."
mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-20 6:59:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #39. To: All (#38)
"The natural world is far too permanently degraded for anything like the number of people now on earth to survive without industrial agriculture and that is a fragile trail dependent upon stable supplies of fertilizer, pesticides and oil for transport that is going to end suddenly leading to unpredictable social unrest. JMG(John Michael Greer/The Archdruid Report) doesnt want to hear about that though or maybe he just wants to sell books.
It seems like this wrangling is an example of the usual rift between groups that have surprisingly little overlap the environmentalist/ecology types, the peak oil types, the overpopulation types and last but not least the climate change types.
Im leaving out the really fringe conspiracy theorists you know, contrails, New World Order, and the cultist Mayan prophecy types and the financial doomers who dont seem to understand that the economy depends upon the biosphere and the goods and services it provides".
"All the former groups are also divided between those who expect a fast crash and those who are wedded (like JMG) to the notion that it will be gradual and can be prepared for (and even profited from). To me, that underestimates the very real prospects no, I should say now they are inevitabilities
that disasters will soon ensue that are simply unsurvivable for the vast majority of humanity and the other species who share this Earth, especially when you factor in the likely response people will have to widespread catastrophes, especially violent weather, food shortages and no power. Im expecting enormous wildfires engulfing towns and cities, for example, which weve already had a taste of. Theres a lot of tinder out there, and hot weather coming"."
mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-20 7:08:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #40. To: All (#39)
"The warmth is expected south of a line stretching from middle New Jersey to southern Idaho. Only tiny portions of northwestern U.S. and Alaska are predicted to be cooler than average and that's only for June, not the rest of the summer."
"Last May until April was the hottest 12-month period on record for the nation with records going back to 1895. This year so far has seen the hottest March, the third warmest April and the fourth warmest January and February in U.S. weather history. And it was one of the least snowy years on record in the Lower 48. Some people called it the year without winter."
mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-20 7:10:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #41. To: All (#40)
In 1938 the Germans decided Czechoslovakia would be a nice addition to the decor and the British and French governments reluctantly agreed: since then the US private- and public sectors have spent (borrowed) over
$55 trillion!
Additional amounts on the order of hundreds of trillions have been pledged. Most of this $55 trillion has been spent (borrowed) during the past thirty years, an increasing part of it to service and retire older debts. Dont be fooled: the US was born out of British debt and the industrial revolution. Ours is a government for, by and about debt: without it and the associated spending there would be no United States of Anything only deer, coyotes and poor people.