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" BBC News - Pakistan Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud 'still alive' news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8651023.stmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 29, 2010 – Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud survived an American drone attack in January, intelligence sources say.

Is Hakimullah Mehsud Alive? New Video Evidence - The Daily Beast www.thedailybeast.com/......ive-new-video-ev...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo May 3, 2010 – When Pakistani officials reportedly began saying last week that Mehsud was still alive, U.S. officials said they had always expressed some ...

Hakimullah Mehsud is still alive! | The News Tribe www.thenewstribe.com/2012...sud-is-still-alive/Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jan 20, 2012 – Islamabad: Military sources have denied reports that Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud was killed in a US drone attack in North ...

Hakimullah mehsud still alive. www.defence.pk/.../154259-hakimullah-mehsud-still-alive.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo 1 post - 1 author - Jan 21 Whats with the media now adays,1 day they say he's dead the next day they report he's alive somewhere in north waziristan.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:26:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#703. To: All (#702)

After the bin Laden raid, Qadir went back to his former comrades, and they introduced him to three of their relatives who had been couriers for Mehsud tribal militant leader Baitullah Mehsud in his contacts with al-Qaeda's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, during the 2003 meetings.

Mehsud would become the head of the al-Qaeda affiliate organization Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) in 2007. But in 2009, Mehsud was killed in a drone strike and the organization was splintering over various issues. All three former couriers broke their ties with Hakimullah Mehsud, Baitullah Mehsud's successor as head of TTP. The political split in the Mehsud tribal community, followed by the killing of bin Laden, released the former couriers from their oaths of secrecy.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:30:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#704. To: All (#703)

After bin Laden moved from the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan to South Waziristan in northwest Pakistan, his health continued to decline, according to the three former Mehsud couriers. Just what ailments were causing the deterioration was not clear, but he was no longer able to walk, and had to be moved by horseback from one house in South Waziristan to another for security reasons.

Renal Kidney failure....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:33:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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What this means, in essence, is this: In a country that is home to the harshest variants of Muslim fundamentalism, and to the headquarters of the organizations that espouse these extremist ideologies, including al-Qaeda, the Haqqani network, and Lashkar-e-Taiba (which conducted the devastating terror attacks on Mumbai three years ago that killed nearly 200 civilians), nuclear bombs capable of destroying entire cities are transported in delivery vans on congested and dangerous roads. And Pakistani and American sources say that since the raid on Abbottabad, the Pakistanis have provoked anxiety inside the Pentagon by increasing the pace of these movements.

Jan 2011...the AtlanticWire, latest hang out for pseudo Intel in the USSA.

The USSA just can't find 'em....;}

"But an even greater concern of the al-Qaeda shura (or council), according to the former couriers, was what appeared to bin Laden's colleagues to be his obsession with the idea that al-Qaeda should attack and capture Pakistan's nuclear reactor at Kahuta. Zawahiri, the second-ranking al-Qaeda leader, who had the task of meeting personally with bin Laden, along with the rest of the shura tried to tell bin Laden that Kahuta was impenetrable. They pointed to the presence of a regular infantry battalion, air defense, guard dogs, mines and a laser security system guarding the facility. And anyway, as they pointed out to bin Laden, there were no nuclear weapons stored there."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:41:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#707. To: All (#705)

But none of that seemed to matter to bin Laden, who seemed delusional on the issue. "Nobody listened to his rantings anymore," said one of the couriers in a conversation with Qadir. "He had become a physical liability and was going mad," another told Qadir a couple of days earlier. "He had become an object of ridicule," said the second courier, recalling that some of the militants in South Waziristan had become aware of his harangues on the subject and were starting to make jokes at bin Laden's expense. "You can't have a leader whose people ridicule him," he said.

The CIA Man said....LMFAO

And the Arab Uprising was the last straw.

AQ was no where to be found. So the decision was made to get rid of OBL, once and for all.

A new MEME was needed. AQ franchises....Lulz

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:57:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Abu Ayoub al-Iraqi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ayoub_al-IraqiCached - Similar

Abu Ayoub al-Iraqi has been credited with being one of the original founders of al-Qaeda ... however, that he was #3, since he was replaced by Mohammed Atef.

CIA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:12:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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CIA

# US Names Abu al-Masri Newest Iraq Al-Qaeda Boogieman www.rense.com/general72/boof.htmCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo In short, the covert op pseudo-gang "al-Qaeda in Iraq" needs a new face, ... "We think that Abu Ayyub al-Masri is in fact, probably, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir ... as both operations were run by the CIA and a smattering of other intelligence services.

Abu Ayyub al Masri | The Weekly Standard www.weeklystandard.com/ke.../Abu-Ayyub-al-MasriCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 28, 2010 – When al Qaeda in Iraq's military chief Abu Ayyub al Masri was killed earlier this month, I noted that the CIA had tracked him to Baghdad in May ...

Captured or Killed - 2012 Counterterrorism Calendar www.nctc.gov/site/other/capture.htmlCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Al-Aulaqi, a radical ideologue and attack planner associated with al-Qa'ida'in the ... Abu Ayyub and 'Umar, both of them top leaders of the Islamic State of Iraq and its ... Pakistani extremist who killed two CIA employees and injured three others ...

Al Qaeda/CIA operative Abu Ayyub al-Masri dies for the 4th or 5th ... forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=167313.0;wap2 You +1'd this publicly. Undo Al Qaeda/CIA operative Abu Ayyub al-Masri dies for the 4th or 5th time again. (1/4) > > ... Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki announced the killings of Abu Omar ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:14:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#710. To: All (#709)

The question however that Washington needs to address is a more complex one and needs more subtle geopolitical analysis than Washington has been indulging in lately. Can the world in general and India, Israel and the US in particular afford to make a nuclear armed nation feel confused and insecure about its relations with them? Pakistan's defense strategy is based on a "first strike policy". Very simple this means that when in danger the Pakistanis will trigger the nukes. Keep in mind that this is the policy of secular, rational generals and not some crazy Mullahs.

We do not have to wait for Pakistani nukes to fall in to the hands of Taliban types before we see them lighting the sky. All we need to do is scare the present administration sufficiently. Nothing can be scarier for the present military establishment in Pakistan than the threat to their nuclear weapons. Is Washington scaring the Pakistanis? Yes it is. But things have not reached dangerous levels, but who knows what the threshold level of Pakistan is? How much pressure can it handle?

Washington continues to insinuate that Pakistan has been sharing its nuclear secrets with Iran and North Korea. Washington also continues to express its fears about the stability of Pakistan's command and control structure and the possibility of their nukes falling in the hands of militant Muslims. Despite Pakistan's repeated reassurances on both counts, Washington continues to maintain its doubts.

Every time Indians meet with Israelis, the conversation is the same. Israelis ask, "What can you do for us?" And Indians ask "What are you going to do about Pakistan?"

www.glocaleye.org/pakpressure.htm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:23:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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http://truth-out.org/news/item/8...behind-the-official-story

According to one version, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, also known as "KSM," the mastermind of the 9/11 attack, had identified bin Laden's trusted courier in 2007; in another version, unidentified detainees had given interrogators the courier's real name.

The story of bin Laden's courier was an open invitation for past and present CIA officials who had gone along with the use of torture in interrogating suspects to justify their position. CIA Director Panetta channeled their viewpoint in an interview with NBC, suggesting that, for some of the information that led the agency to bin Laden, interrogators, "used their enhanced interrogation techniques against some of the detainees."

He added, "Whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always going to be an open question." Reuters reported that the story of how the administration learned about the identity of bin Laden's courier was, "certain to reopen the debate over practices that many have equated with torture."

Rodriguez gets back handed signal to destroy the torture tapes....Lulz.

Notify CBS for 60 Minutes Story.

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