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#312. To: All (#311) (Edited)

This is bullshite:

"I would love to give them a hug," said Richard Korn, whose only child, Captain Edward J. Korn, died April 3, 2003, in a burst of friendly fire. "I think they need it.

"Captain Korn, a member of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division from Fort Stewart, Ga., was killed as his unit and others were attacking Iraqi positions on a two-lane road about 15 miles southeast of Baghdad.

The convoy of American tanks and armored vehicles was stopped on the road when they spotted an Iraqi tank, a Russian-made T-72. They fired and the enemy tank exploded.

As the vehicle burned, Korn and a sergeant apparently dismounted and walked to the tree line near the tank, searching for Iraqi positions, Major Kent Rideout, the senior officer on the scene, told the Los Angeles Times.

At some point, Korn spotted a second tank and sent the sergeant back for an antitank rocket before going on alone.

Korn was wearing a brown T-shirt, a flak vest that was left open and no helmet, according to Rideout, who was scanning the tree line for more Iraqi positions.

"Out of the corner of my eyes, I saw behind the tank what looked to be an old campfire," Rideout told The Times. "I could see tea or coffee steaming, sleeping bags, chickens. It had all the hallmarks of a place where people were living. I put 2 and 2 together that this was a place a tank crew was living.

"All of a sudden, we saw movement. Someone dropped down, like he was going to fire, and then stood up and got behind another T-72."

Rideout's driver also indicated he saw an enemy. He leveled his M-16 and the major ordered him to fire.

"He fired one shot," Rideout recalled. "I'll never get over it. It was 200 to 250 yards away. He dropped him. I slapped him [the driver] on the head and said, 'That's the greatest shot I've ever seen.' "

The shot had hit Korn, a Desert Storm veteran and Bronze Star recipient who had left Fort Knox, Kentucky, to volunteer for war duty in March.

A Bradley fighting vehicle from Korn's unit also opened fire on the second Iraqi tank, some of its 25-millimeter rounds striking the fallen soldier.

"This was the worst day of my Army career," Rideout said. "No doubt, the worst day. I get to go home with that. I get to live with that for the rest of my life."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: mcgowanjm (#312)

Why is it bullshite?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-04   10:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: All (#312)

And someone else thinks the above is bull shite as well:

"Korn's father, Richard Korn, said his son was killed when somebody on a Bradley infantry fighting vehicle opened fire on the tank, thinking Korn was an Iraqi soldier.

The Army did not return phone calls about Korn. A press release said only that the incident was under investigation.

Korn blamed the incident on a lack of communication and said he felt sorry for the soldier who shot his son."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:23:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: All (#314)

www.hindu.com/thehindu/20.../.../2003040405860100.htm

Apr 4, 2003 – BAGHDAD April 3. The Iraqi capital plunged into darkness tonight as loud explosions rocked the city and tracer rounds raced through the sky near the airport.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: All (#315)

8. Sgt. 1st Class Wilbert Davis, Alaska, age 40, died April 3, 2003. Davis was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 69th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

9. Staff Sergeant George E. Buggs, S.C., age 31, died March 23, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Co., 3rd Forward Support Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

10. Private First Class Wilfred D. Bellard, La., age 20, died April 4, 2003, Charlie Battery, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

11. Specialist Daniel F. Cunningham, Jr., Maine, age 33, died April 4, 2003, Charlie Battery, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

12. Private 2 Devon D. Jones, Calif., age 19, died April 4, 2003, Charlie Battery, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

13. Captain Tristan N. Aitken, Capt. Tristan N. Aitken, Pa.,age 31, died April 4, 2003, HHB, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

14. Sgt. 1st Class Paul Ray Smith, Fla., age 33, died April 4, 2003, Bravo Co. 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

15. Staff Sergeant Stevon A. Booker, Pa., age 34, died April 5, 2003, Alpha Co, 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

16. Private First Class Gregory P. Huxley, Jr., N.Y., age 19, died April 6, 2003, Bravo Co., 317th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

17. Staff Sergeant Lincoln D. Hollinsaid, Ill., age 27, died April 7, 2003, Bravo Co., 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

18. 1st Lieutenant Jeffrey J. Kaylor, Va., age 24, died April 7, 2003, Charlie Battery, lst Battalion, 39th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

19. Private First Class Anthony S. Miller, Texas, age 19, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division.

20. Specialist George A. Mitchell, Jr., Md., age 35, died April 7, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division.

21. Sergeant Henry L. Brown, Miss., age 22, died April 8, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

22. Sgt. 1st Class John W. Marshall, Calif., age 50, died April 8, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

23. Private First Class Jason M. Meyer, Mich., age 23, died April 8, 2003, Company B, 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

24. Staff Sergeant Robert A. Stever, Ore., age 36, died April 8, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

25. Private First Class Marlin T. Rockhold, Ohio, age 23, died May 8, 2003, Bravo Co., 3rd Battalion, 7th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

26. Sergeant Michael T. Crockett, Ga., age 27, of Soperton, Ga., died July 14 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Battalion, 7th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

27. Specialist Joel L. Bertoldie, Mo., age 20, died July 18, 2003, Headquarters, Headquarters Company, 4th Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

28. Staff Sergeant Nathaniel Hart, Jr., Ga., age 29, died July 28, 2003, 416th Transportation Company, 260th Quartermaster Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

29. Private First Class Charles M. Sims, Fla., age 18, died Oct. 3, 2003, 549th Military Police, Co., 3rd Military Police Battalion, (attached to 1st AD for OIF1)

30. Captain James F. Adamouski, Va., age 29, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

31. Specialist Matthew G. Boule, Mass., age 22, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

32. Chief Warrant Officer 4 Eric A. Halvorsen, Vt., age 40, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

33. Chief Warrant Officer 2 Scott Jamar, Texas, age 32, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

34. Sergeant Michael F. Pedersen, Mich., age 26, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

35. Chief Warrant Officer 3 Eric A. Smith, Calif., age 41, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

36. Captain Edward J. Korn, Ga., age 31, died April 2003, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

37. Specialist Ryan G. Carlock, Ill., age 25, died Sept. 9, 2003, 416th Transportation Co., 24th Corps Support Group, 3rd Infantry Division.

38. Private 2 Kelley S. Prewitt, Ala., age 24, died April 6, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Battalion, 69th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

39. Staff Sergeant Terry W. Hemingway, N.J., age 39, died April 10, 2003, C Company, 1st Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Benning.

40. 1st Sergeant Joe J. Garza, Texas, age 43, died April 28, 2003, Headquarters Co. 1st Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Benning.

41. Specialist Donald S. Oaks, Jr., died April 2003, Delta Co., 1st Battalion, 39th Field Artillery, 3rd Infantry Division.

42. Sergeant Todd J. Robbins, Mich., age 33, died April 2003, Charlie Battery, 13th Field Artillery (from Fort Sill, Okla., attached to 3rd Inf. Div.)

43. Sgt. 1st Class Randall S. Rehn, Colo., age 36, died April 2003, Charlie Battery, 13th Field Artillery (from Fort Sill, Okla., attached to 3rd Inf. Div.)

Artillery fire could be heard near the Saddam International Airport, 16 km southwest of downtown Baghdad. Tracer rounds raced through the sky and shells exploded in the air. A Reuters reporter said dozens of Iraqis, including civilians and soldiers, were killed in the village of Furat near the airport today evening in what witnesses said was a U.S. rocket strike. He said more than 120 people were wounded in the attack on the village, which lies between the airport and the Iraqi capital. Iraqi officials put the toll at 83. In Baghdad, the explosions persisted for nearly 15 minutes before the power went off at about 8 p.m. — the first widespread electrical failure in the capital since the U.S.-led bombardment began two weeks ago. The entire city appeared without power. The reason for the loss of power was not immediately clear.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: All (#316)

David Bloom. Embedded with the 3rd Infantry Division. Died April 5 2003....;}

"*

With newspapers, magazines and articles printed from the Internet sprawled across his tray table and bed at Walter Reed Army Medical Center yesterday, the 23-year-old Northeast Baltimore native pointed to a picture of an unnamed soldier on a stretcher in a recent issue of Newsweek. That's him.

And there's the April 6 Atlanta Journal-Constitution, with a front-page column by reporter Ron Martz under the headline, "I owe these heroes my life." That's Schafer, too.

Schafer, part of the 3rd Infantry Division based at Fort Stewart in Georgia, was headed to attack Baghdad International Airport on the morning of April 5 when the tank in front of his was hit and couldn't be saved. Making way for the displaced soldiers, he moved over to the personnel carrier where the Atlanta reporter was riding.

Schafer's orders en route: "Nothing is friendly out here. We were firing at anything that moved."

Shots came flying. His buddy, Christopher Shipley, was hit, Schafer thinks in the head. Then he was hit as well - how many times, the doctors don't even know.

"I just know that my arm is broke, and I got holes in my back," Schafer said.

Shipley survived, meeting up with Schafer at a hospital in Rota, Spain."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: All (#317) (Edited)

Remembering David Bloom - CNN.com - Transcripts transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0304/06/rs.00.htmlCached

Apr 6, 2003 – He was embedded with the Army's 3rd Infantry Division and died in a ... now is CNN's Walter Rodgers, with the 7th Cavalry, south of Baghdad.

" KURTZ: And finally, Walt Rodgers, is it any more difficult for you in terms of the operational security now that you're not just rolling through the desert but on the outskirts of Baghdad, in terms of what you feel that you can report and not report? We all saw the sort of embarrassing episode involving Geraldo Rivera, who was asked to leave Iraq for reporting sensitive information about troop locations.

Are you censoring yourself even more than usual now?

RODGERS: Not at all. And let me comment on the rules. As in every avenue of life, the rules, the laws are made to protect us. The Pentagon set out the rules. Those rules protect us. You obey the rules, you enjoy the protection of the rules and the protection of the law.

You disregard the rules, it's like somebody going down the highway at 120 miles an hour. Law is there, rules are there to protect everyone. They have worked well when they're obeyed -- Howard.

KURTZ: Walt Rodgers, outskirts of Baghdad, thanks very much.

I want to read a statement I was just handed by CNN -- excuse me, from President Bush, through CNN. The president mourns the loss of David Bloom and extends his sympathies to the Bloom family, just as he continues to mourn the loss -- excuse me -- of all military and others who have lost their lives in Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Mark Thompson, you're down at the Pentagon every day for "TIME" magazine. These embedded correspondents, the reports are coming in often hours, sometimes even days before the Pentagon itself is able to confirm this information.

Is there starting to be resentment among Rumsfeld and company about the embedded experiment?

MARK THOMPSON, "TIME" MAGAZINE: I think what's interesting about it, Howie, is that the Pentagon in some way likes getting it early. When I've been out with troops, with the press, with the DOD media pool, we report back to the military. They're eager for our reports, because it's a check on what they're being told in their own chain of command.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   11:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: All (#318)

CNN Walter Rogers April 3 2003:

"We have seen quite a few dead Iraqi soldiers by the road [Thursday]. What we noticed was all of the dead Iraqi soldiers had gas masks. They are moving in anything but what you would call an organized formation. The Iraqis we see are generally driving pickup trucks, or they are riding about in old Soviet Union vintage armored vehicles, which are no match for the armor-piercing shells that the tanks are firing.

This armored column has been under almost constant fire. When we first crossed the Euphrates River, it was pretty barren in terms of not much of a civilian population. As we pushed closer to Baghdad, we began to see that the Iraqi population was indeed welcoming the U.S. Army convoy and welcoming them northward."

LMFAO The welcome of almost constant fire...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   11:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: All (#319) (Edited)

Friday, April 4, 2003 Posted: 1:49 AM EST (0649 GMT)

The bombing began about 2 a.m. Friday [5 p.m. Thursday EST]. One explosion was so powerful that it lit up the blacked-out capital, and a fire engulfed a structure.

• Myers: U.S. forces did not knock out power to large areas of Baghdad late Thursday.

My Edit: Yes, Myers, you did.

(CNN) -- With U.S. boots on the ground at Saddam International Airport, sustained explosions rocked Baghdad on Friday morning, illuminating the darkened capital where the electric power is off and the power of the regime might be fading.

The bombardments came in waves, sometimes with explosions rocking the capital one after another for minutes on end. The bombing began about 2 a.m. Friday [5 p.m. Thursday EST]. One explosion was so powerful that it lit up the blacked-out capital, and a fire engulfed a structure.

Three hours later, the city shook from more multiple explosions, and antiaircraft fire shot into the sky.

American armored divisions launched the assault on the airport, 12 miles from the center of the Iraqi capital, as U.S.-led coalition troops advanced on the city.

The battle for the airport continued after dawn.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   11:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#310)

Who profits from the destruction of the whole infrastructure of the Iraqi state? Who profits from the destruction of Iraq's invaluable cultural wealth?

We found out that the Baathists profited from setting their own infrastructure on fire. We also found out that the Iraqi citizens believed they had a right to loot given the Baathists kept all the wealth. So they stormed every government facility. Weeks after the looting I saw plumbing "supplies" on sale on the street markets which were ripped out of Saddams' palaces and government buildings. We also saw kids selling Iraqi Army uniforms and equipment. As you went further south in Shia land the same items were being sold. If someone bought the gear and looted supplies in Iraqi dinar, you received change in Iranian currency. There was a lot going on before we even got there.

I too received Iranian currency when I bought sodas and pita bread for the men on a long convoy in Southern Iraq. The kid (a good capitalist) tried to sell me his donkey. I had no use for a donkey but did not want to insult the kid, so told him I really needed a camel. Showing the true business nature of the Arab, he told me to come back in two hours and he would sell me three camels:)

I slapped him on the shoulder and told him (he spoke good English) I would think about it. This was all before the insurgency (April to early June 2003). At that point the Iraqis were happy Saddam and the Baathists were out of power and expected us to have them hold elections immediately. Well leave it to the State Dept and politicians to screw that one up. There was a brief (2 month) period of opportunity we squandered. We should have loaded our equipment up and departed Iraq by the end of June at the latest.

Now addressing your post. No we did not burn and loot Iraq. We did have some bad actors and bad leaders who went after war "booty" like the looters, and most of them were punished. The ones who did not get caught red handed were caught by US Navy customs inspectors when the unit rotated out of Iraq to Kuwait. So American Soldiers did not torch Iraq. Sitting around with blank stares...yep that was a problem and here is the reason why:

Now that the book "Cobra II" has been published many know that the timeline to secure Iraq was to be in the August 2003 timeframe. Since the regime fell 4 months earlier than expected, the Troops operating in Baghdad were under the war time rules of engagement (ROE). The ROE and Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) is clear you do not shoot unarmed civilians. When confronted with looters our Soldiers tried to stop them, but the Iraqis knew we would not shoot because of the ROE and LOAC. The LOAC does give provisions for an occupying force to stop looting with deadly force but that edict usually comes from a provisional government. When the provisional government adjusted the ROE there was a two week period where information was distributed via handbills, radio, TV and SAT TV (we may think the Iraqis were poor, but the majority of people there had SAT dishes). Once the word got out we would use deadly force, the looting stopped. However, the damage was already done. Looking back at this, I think the looting by Iraqi citizens could not be stopped. Even if our military leaders had "authority" to use deadly force on looters, I think they and our political leaders would not have enforced it. What is worse to see on CNN, Iraqis looting their own infrastructure or US Soldiers and Marines cutting down some poor Shia dude from Sadr City stealing leather chairs from the Dept of Agriculture? Yeah it was war and war is hell.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   11:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: mcgowanjm (#320)

• Myers: U.S. forces did not knock out power to large areas of Baghdad late Thursday.

My Edit: Yes, Myers, you did.

How do you know? Do you think the bombing knocked out the power? Here is an interesting tidbit. Saddam used to order black outs in Baghdad when there was unrest, protests etc. Not my words, but Saddam admitted this. He also admitted that he was more worried about a coup to overthrow him when the conflict started. So Saddam could have done it, he did it in the past. There is another theory that CIA operatives working with resistance figthers did this. Possible, but we found out from the book "Cobra II" that Saddam was on to the CIA operatives and he knew the military and political officials working with them. If the US hit the power grid, then ask yourself "for what purpose." It was clear in OPLAN Cobra II (as indicated in the book) that the US wanted to avoid infrastructure damage given the coalition wanted a functioning Iraqi economy after regime change.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   11:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: All (#320)

``What you have is the making of a humanitarian catastrophe,'' said Sid Balman, spokesman for InterAction, an umbrella group of 165 relief organisations.

Baghdad went dark on Thursday for the first time since the war began on March 20, just as spearhead troops of America's 3rd Infantry Division closed in on the international airport on the capital's south-western outskirts.

U.S. officials denied targeting the electric grid. ``We didn't do it. It's as simple as that,''' said Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, chief spokesman for the U.S. Central Command in Qatar.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: All (#323)

Asked if he believed the price increases were a result of the halt in the oil imports from Iran, Tunc stated “what is its benefit? Why the measure has been taken? The energy minister should give a satisfying response to the nation. If they (the price hikes) are a result of this halt in imports from Iran, why did Turkey joined the move? What will be the benefit for Turkey? Because, as you know, relations between countries are based on national interests and reciprocity.”

“We used to talk of zero problem with neighbors, but we have ended up in having problems with all of them. Why we came to this point? None of us know. We don’t know what would be the results. We, as the BBP and the Turkish nation, want to know about this,” he concluded."

See what happens when you side with Israel?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: All (#324)

struggles amid continued weaknesses in Europe and the broader economic downturn.

Except for Israel:

Israel plans sovereign wealth fund - FT.com - Financial Times www.ft.com › WorldCached

Feb 19, 2012 – Israel has revealed plans to set up a new sovereign wealth fund, which will be ... weather the global financial crisis better than most other western economies. ... The broad financial goals of the fund, however, will be set by a ...

Israel-Concluding Statement of the 2012 Article IV Consultation ... www.imf.org/external/np/ms/2012/021312.htmCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Feb 13, 2012 – Israel's economy remains strong. Output fell for only two quarters during the "Great Recession", then ... The shekel is now broadly consistent with fundamentals and international reserves are appropriate by most measures. 2.

How is this possible from a desert state with no water and no energy.

That exports nothing but citrus and children.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#326. To: All (#325) (Edited)

David Bloom/NBC with the 3/7 Cavalry 3rd Infantry Division.

Dies April 6, 2003 somewhere near the Baghdad Airport.

Specialist Donald S. Oaks, Jr., died April (?) 2003, Delta Co., 1st Battalion, 39th Field Artillery, 3rd Infantry Division.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: All (#326)

Battle of Baghdad Airport April 3-8 2003

"You might now remember that on the night before the Battle of Baghdad began Saddam had promised us an attack… Well, he kept his promise. Friday night at 8:30 p.m. (Central), I was watching CNN showing the predawn of Saturday 5:30 morning half-way around the world in Baghdad…

All at once the skyline of the besieged city erupted with the flash and report of sustained explosions. The CNN people (Aaron Brown and Fredricka Whitfield) reacted with surprise, saying that U.S. public affairs hadn’t alerted them that there would be a major fire mission tonight. I immediately became anxious, knowing it exceedingly unlikely that public affairs hadn’t contacted affected media about a major fire mission in a choreographed war. “It probably wasn’t us doing the firing,” I thought.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#328. To: All (#327)

" In the next few minutes CNN’s reporter Walter Rodgers, embedded with the 3/7 Cavalry, attempted to make a report from the Baghdad Airport. Rodgers’ voice was indistinguishable because of the extreme background noise of artillery impacting around him, automatic small arms fire striking his vehicle and the shouts of the soldiers inside. It was the fog of war, no doubt about it. Aaron Brown offered no explanation of the noise, merely stiffly saying that the network was having technical difficulties.

Thankfully, Walter Rodgers’ luck held. A half hour later Fredericka and Aaron were off the clock and Larry King Live carried an interview between Rodgers and Lt. Col. Terry Ferrell – the commander of the very 3/7 Cavalry under fire at the airport. I had never seen the unit commander in two weeks of the TV war, so his sudden appearance was just more sad corroboration of my theory that we were getting the worst of it in the early Battle of Baghdad.

Lt. Col. Ferrell bravely tried to keep a straight face as he told Rodgers that all was well at the airport, but ended up in tears; Rodgers was too choked up to pick up the conversation. The put-up interview was yet more tragic corroboration of my sad analysis, and I began to cry along with Lieut. Col. Ferrell and Rodgers, for the boys of the 3/7 Cavalry, remembering that I had once been a young cavalryman, too.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#329. To: All (#328)

Every minute that the Jessica Lynch story was being aired...

Media duly continued to broadcast Jessica for two days, then bombings meant to get Saddam for a third; they broadcast everything but the Battle of Baghdad. On Wednesday, April 9, public affairs contrived a pulling down of Saddam Hussein’s statue and word generally spread that the battle (never shown before and never acknowledged as begun) was over. Frustrated by the failure of the American media to cover the much-awaited battle, millions of Americans turned to the English-version Al-Jazeera online for their news — and it promptly crashed (probably interrupted on White House orders).

The public had (and continues to have) no idea that the Iraqis did make their promised counterattack on April 5, at the Baghdad Airport and later across Baghdad, inflicting hundreds of casualties while fighting a rearguard action as they dispersed into the underground. On the basis of twenty years of military service, I infer that the Battle of Baghdad is what was raging every minute the media was airing or printing distraction.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#330. To: All (#329)

Most all of these soldiers were killed at the Battle of Baghdad Airport:

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WASHINGTON, April 5 (UPI) -- The Pentagon announced early Saturday that eight of the soldiers whose bodies were found during the April 1 rescue of Jessica Lynch were traveling with her in the convoy ambushed March 23 in southern Iraq. A ninth body was identified as a soldier from the Third Forward Support Group of the Third Infantry Division, but his name has not been released yet.

The eight soldiers who had been listed as missing were consequently listed as killed in action. Seven were from the 507th Maintenance Company, Ft. Bliss Texas.

The Pentagon announced two Marine helicopter pilots were killed in a crash in central Iraq Saturday. The crash was not a result of hostile fire. Their AH-1W "Super Cobra" attack helicopter went down at approximately 12:19 am Saturday a.m. Their families have not yet been notified of the deaths.

The latest announcements brought the total killed either by hostile fire or accidents to 75, eight of whom were not yet identified early Saturday, a Pentagon spokesman told United Press International.

The eight names switched from missing to dead are Sgt. George E. Buggs, 31, of Barnwell, S.C.; Master Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy, 38, of Cleveland, Ohio; Pvt. Ruben Estrella-Soto, 18, of El Paso, Texas; Spc. James M. Kiehl, 22, of Comfort, Texas; Chief Warrant Officer Johnny Villareal Mata, 35, of Amarillo, Texas; Pfc. Lori Ann Piestewa, 23, Tuba City, Ariz.; Pvt. Brandon U. Sloan, 19, of Cleveland, Ohio; Sgt. Donald R. Walters, 33, of Kansas City, Mo.;

Buggs was with the 3rd Division Support Battalion, Fort Stewart, Ga. and the rest were with the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Earlier Friday evening the Pentagon announced the deaths of three more soldiers based at Fort Benning, Ga., who died as a result of severe injuries Thursday, bringing the total number of U.S. deaths in or around Iraq to 60.

They were that of Staff Sgt. Nino D. Livaudais, 23, assigned to 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. He was from Utah. Also identified were Spc. Ryan P. Long, 21, who was assigned to A Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. and Capt. Russell B. Rippetoe, 27, assigned to A Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. He was from Colorado.

Still earlier Friday, the Pentagon announced that four Army soldiers and two Marines had brought the total number of deaths associated with the war in Iraq to 57.

Spc. Donald S. Oaks Jr., 20, was killed in action in Iraq on April 3. He was assigned to C Battery, 3rd Battalion, 13th Field Artillery Regiment (Multiple Launch Rocket System), Fort Sill, Okla. Oaks was from Erie, Pa.

Sgt. 1st Class Randall S. Rehn, 36, was killed in action April 3. He was assigned to C Battery, 3rd Battalion, 13th Field Artillery Regiment (Multiple Launch Rocket System), Fort Sill, Okla. Rehn was from Longmont, Colo

Read more: www.upi.com/Business_News...1049570687/#ixzz1r5cNe6Ck

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#331. To: All (#330)

Paul William Roberts is a Canadian Reporter. He was in Baghdad during the invasion. While there, he heard reports that something major was happening at the airport. He repeatedly tried to gain access but was turned away at every junction. Eventually, he gained access to the extremities of the complex and noticed that the vegetation was turned to 'tar'.

Trees had warped/fell into pools of black tar. Also, Roberts noticed bodies wearing Iraqi camo, one example being a pair of legs, with the upper torso melted into a pool of black tar. Roberts is now blind. His doctors cite uranium damage to the eye. But its what Roberts discovered afterwards via his middle-eastern contacts that reveals more. Roberts states the following, by the way,all of this is from his book 'A War Against Truth' (2004);

The Americans were taken by surprise and withdrew when they encountered the SRG forces at the airport. Instead of engaging them in battle, U.S. troops went searching for other entrances and exits to the underground complex. One was found at Saddams opulent suite at the airport, another at the official palace.

There were others. When these entrance-exit points had been sealed, and U.S. Commanders were certain of the exact locations of the Special Republican Guardsmen, the Americans detonated some kind of hi-tech bomb -- there were rumours that it was a neutron bomb, but this seems outrageous even by their standards -- in the airports underground complex, in the Southern palace, killing everyone in it and in the northern palace. Estimates are in the forty thousand range. With the SRG defeated the war was essenitally over.

So long as there is no talk of what actually happened in Baghdad that weekend in April(3-8, 2003;), there is no freedom of the American press. The fix is in, my friend, and America’s in a fix.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#332. To: mcgowanjm (#329)

the Jessica Lynch story

You TEPCO stock moguls won't be able to cover up the ongoing Fuki meltdown, with the 'ol Jessica story much longer.


Japan eases limits in nuke no-go zone for 1st time.... www.tokyotimes.co.jp/2012...-no-go-zone-for-1st-time/

The town office had moved to another part of Fukushima prefecture but moved into a part of Kawauchi just outside the evacuation zone earlier this month to help smooth the process of residents’ returning.

While the reclassification means about 16,000 people can return home fairly soon, it’s not clear how many will. Most are waiting until the area is further decontaminated and infrastructure restored, and local officials have said towns may lose unity due to the three-way divisions.

Under the revised evacuation plans, areas with annual exposure levels estimated at 20 millisieverts or below are deemed safe for people to visit and prepare for their permanent return, while being encouraged to make further decontamination efforts. Limited access is allowed for residents in areas with higher contamination — up to 50 millisieverts of estimated annual exposure. Places with annual exposure estimates exceeding that will remain off-limits.

Despite the government declaration that Fukushima Dai-ichi is stable, the plant is largely running on makeshift equipment and remains vulnerable. Officials have said that it would take up to 40 years to fully decommission the highly contaminated plant that has three reactors with melted cores.

Decontamination efforts also are uncertain. Experts have said there is no established method, and more highly contaminated areas are difficult to clean up.

Environment Minister Goshi Hosono, also the nuclear crisis management minister, said Friday that containing radiation release and keeping the plant stability is crucial to the return of affected residents.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-04   12:46:30 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#333. To: redleghunter (#322) (Edited)

If the US hit the power grid, then ask yourself "for what purpose." It was clear in OPLAN Cobra II (as indicated in the book) that the US wanted to avoid infrastructure damage given the coalition wanted a functioning Iraqi economy after regime change.

First: That's bull shit. ' The only thing the USSA 'saved' was the Oil Ministry.

Everything else was burned to the ground.

Second:

"How do you know? Do you think the bombing knocked out the power? "

Yes....;}

April 3 at night, there was a light that lit up the sky. Followed immediately by a boom that shook the Downtown Baghdad buildings. The grid went down simultaneously and never came back.

April 7 at night. An even bigger explosion.

ON APRIL 5, 2003, unit founder Captain Eric May detected major glitches in the media pictures coming back from Baghdad, which US forces had just reached. The reporters had gone from hopeful April 4 announcements that the siege of Baghdad had begun, to worried April 5 announcements that there was a fierce fight at Baghdad Airport — then suddenly and without explanation away from the developing battle to the "human interest" story that Private Jessica Lynch had been saved from Iraqi captors.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#334. To: All (#333)

The Battle of Baghdad was happening off-camera, hidden behind Private Lynch!

The pull-down of the statue of Saddam Hussein on April 9 was another manufactured event to indicate that the Baghdad had been occupied by US forces. But how did they take the city?

The answer is that US forces were attacked by much-larger Iraq forces at the Baghdad Airport on Saturday morning, April 5, and after bleeding badly from that vicious fight were engaged in a fierce battle in the rubbled, slow-go driving — under constant Iraqi fire — through the city of Baghdad, a drive lasting until three days later, when the distraction of Private Jessica abruptly ended so that the media could show a set-up scene of the "Fall of Baghdad" (i.e., a set-up pull-down of Saddam's Statue).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#335. To: hondo68 (#332)

First. That's bullshit because the Typhoon just went thru last night.

Second. Fukushima City 300 000 will have to be evac'ed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#336. To: A K A Stone (#313)

Why is it bullshite?

This:

As the vehicle burned, Korn and a sergeant apparently dismounted and walked to the tree line near the tank, searching for Iraqi positions, Major Kent Rideout, the senior officer on the scene, told the Los Angeles Times.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#337. To: A K A Stone (#313)

Why is it bullshite?

And this:

"At some point, Korn spotted a second tank and sent the sergeant back for an antitank rocket before going on alone. "

So now you have a tank Commander/Captain, All alone between a second Iraq tank and his unit.

That's bullshite.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#338. To: redleghunter (#321)

We found out that the Baathists profited from setting their own infrastructure on fire.

Again bullshite.

They did not even destroy one bridge.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#339. To: mcgowanjm, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#335)

bullshit because the Typhoon just went thru last night.

Second. Fukushima City 300 000 will have to be evac'ed.

The kids are back in school in Fukushima City. The kid with the mask has eco-nut parents, damn shame.


Fukushima city welcomes return of last four schools after evacuation

Fukushima city welcomes return of last four schools after evacuationThe last four of this city's 12 elementary and junior high schools, which were evacuated to other locations as a result of the nuclear crisis, returned to their original premises and restarted classes here on Feb. 27. The return of the last four schools in this prefectural city, which until September last year was designated as an emergency evacuation preparation zone as a result of the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, marks the end of the city's school evacuation cycle, though much remains to be completed before children restart their lives as they were before March 11, 2011. The four schools, among which are Ishigami No. 1 Elementary School and Ishigami No. 2 Elementary School, resumed classes at their original sites for the first time in almost a year, after soil decontamination and building reconstruction work was completed, allowing children to return.


At two nuclear power plants in northern Japan, cooling of a spent fuel storage pool temporarily stopped because of power failures but resumed in about 30 minutes without affecting safety, their operator Tohoku Electric Power Co. said.

The Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant that suffered meltdowns at three reactors after last year's tsunami was unaffected by the storm.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-04   13:23:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#340. To: mcgowanjm (#333)

First: That's bull shit. ' The only thing the USSA 'saved' was the Oil Ministry.

Everything else was burned to the ground.

Second:

"How do you know? Do you think the bombing knocked out the power? "

Yes....;}

April 3 at night, there was a light that lit up the sky. Followed immediately by a boom that shook the Downtown Baghdad buildings. The grid went down simultaneously and never came back.

April 7 at night. An even bigger explosion.

ON APRIL 5, 2003, unit founder Captain Eric May detected major glitches in the media pictures coming back from Baghdad, which US forces had just reached. The reporters had gone from hopeful April 4 announcements that the siege of Baghdad had begun, to worried April 5 announcements that there was a fierce fight at Baghdad Airport — then suddenly and without explanation away from the developing battle to the "human interest" story that Private Jessica Lynch had been saved from Iraqi captors.

Where were you on April 5th?

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   13:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#341. To: mcgowanjm (#338)

Again bullshite.

They did not even destroy one bridge.

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites. Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess so the soon to be insurgency (as planned waiting in the wings) would gain popular support. If I were to put his words into English it would be something like this: "You wanted Iraq, here it is now have a nice day."

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   13:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#342. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/me...j.irq.war.main/index.html

Iraqwar.ru itself is history by Dom on 20.10.2004 [19:26 ] As time goes by I am more convinced that Iraqwar.ru was one of the unique things I ever experienced in life. I have yet to see anything like it. This site comes closest.

A lot of us were on Iraqwar every day from long before the war until the day it conked out. Too bad we can't look it up now and again. But then again, maybe life's too short for looking back. Once again. the living humans outlast their own works.

I don't reckon there's much in this neutron bomb story. As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#343. To: redleghunter (#341)

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites.

Thanx for adding nothing to this information....;}

'news websites'....LMGFAO....where does your lens form?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#344. To: redleghunter (#341)

Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess....

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#345. To: redleghunter (#341)

Again bullshite.

They did not even destroy one bridge.

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites. Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess ...

So why was not. ONE. SINGLE. BRIDGE. destroyed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#346. To: redleghunter (#341)

so the soon to be insurgency (as planned waiting in the wings) would gain popular support. If I were to put his words into English it would be something like this: "You wanted Iraq, here it is now have a nice day."

So why is EVERY ministry burned to the ground....

except....

wait for it....

the OIL Ministry building....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#347. To: All (#342)

As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

www.iraq-war.ru/article/27537

If theres one thing Russia is good for, its outing US BS. But then, the original articles/exposures are the work of American veterans.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#348. To: mcgowanjm (#344)

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

If something is not reported press does it make it untrue?

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#349. To: mcgowanjm (#345)

So why was not. ONE. SINGLE. BRIDGE. destroyed.

Have you read Cobra II. The answer is there.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#350. To: mcgowanjm (#346)

except....

wait for it....

the OIL Ministry building....;}

There were three oil ministry buildings...which one are you referring to? The Oil ministry had their own state security to fend off looters.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#351. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#1. To: Robin (#0)

Private First Class Lynch & the 3/7 Cavalry & the Battle of Baghdad Airport April 3-8, 2003

Writing on April 13 for the Danger Room blog at Wired, Hambling says that from the description al-Rawi gives in the Al Jazeera interview of a series of explosions that killed the occupants of buildings without destroying the structures, “Interestingly, there is a weapon in the U.S. arsenal designed to do exactly that. ... The AGM-114N.”

Hambling continues, “On May 15th, 2003, just a few weeks after the action at Baghdad airport, Donald Rumsfeld praised the new weapon. ... Although officially described as ‘metal augmented’ or even ‘hyperbaric,’ the new warhead is not distinguishable from thermobaric weapons which produce the same sort of enhanced blast with a lower overpressure and longer duration for more destructive effects. Like many thermobarics, the AGM-114N used finely powdered aluminum. The military are generally quiet about thermobarics because they have received such bad press. Human Rights Watch criticized them because they ‘kill and injure in a particularly brutal manner over a wide area.’ “

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-04 18:58:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: All (#1)

david bloom 3/7 cavalry

The Rescue of Private First Class Lynch

On the evening of 1 April 2003, SOF, supported by marines, assaulted the hospital in which Private Jessica Lynch was being treated.

Although there have been news stories subsequently suggesting that the assault was unnecessary since Iraqi troops had left the day before, one fact is clear--the SOF troops brought Lynch out.

Her capture, her captivity, even her return home stimulated speculation and enormous media attention

Staff Sergeant Joe Todd,

.Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Twitty, commander of TF 3-15 IN, knew Bloom better than any other soldier in the task force. They had first met 12 years earlier when Bloom, as a young up-and-coming journalist, covered the 24th Infantry Division during Operation DESERT STORM. Twitty was then a captain, serving as aide de camp for then-Major General Barry McCaffrey, commander of the 24th Infantry Division.211

...;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-04

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#352. To: redleghunter (#350)

There were three oil ministry buildings.

Show me.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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