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#7. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

So is he going to be our new National Wire Service????

Don't know. This is all news to me....8D

You seem to be doing a better job of reporting the news than they are.....

"The trouble with our liberal friends are not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-26   10:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: CZ82 (#7)

Don't know. This is all news to me....8D

You seem to be doing a better job of reporting the news than they are.....

Fulsome praise indeed.

Surprised and taken aback by genuine trust....my very weakness of not expecting same....

Thank you, Cz...8D

So when I post, where does this show up.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   10:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

The killer of a US Colonel and Major (and 'two more'?) has telephoned a progress report to the Taliban, who have already put this story on their 'wire'...

The killer is still at large last I heard. What a mess. US advisers are being evacuated from 'safe and secure' buildings.

What a mess - oh, I repeat myself.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-27   10:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

And here we go.

That Sound you're hearing coming out of DC is the Eye on every neck of every 'chief' of every Intel Agency being violently pulled away from whatever they thought was pressing....;}

"University of Wyoming political science professor Jim King said the potential for a complete unraveling of the U.S. government and economy is “astronomically remote” in the foreseeable future...."

Which translated means the USSA has mere months now before going Non Linear.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10) (Edited)

Syria: The Battle of Homs was won and reported to President Bashar al-Assad that it was over on Thursday, 23 February, at 1900 hours.

Watch as Syria fades from your Statetv screen now....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11) (Edited)

"They were given permission to enter the premises with ambulances to repatriate the bodies of the two dead journalists, and to evacuate the rest, both injured and sound. However, at the last moment, the journalists refused to leave, fearing a trap set up by the Damascus authorities. Indeed, they had been told by their French colleagues who left the scene earlier that the Syrian government would strive to eliminate them. Moreover, having access only to satellite TV channels controlled by NATO and the GCC, they are convinced that the fighting of which they are the victims is not only limited to their neighborhood, but extends throughout all of Syria. ..."

Being on the spot, I offered my services to the authorities to facilitate the removal of my compatriots and colleagues. The negotiations lasted over four hours. Several states, including France, were kept abreast of these events.

After several twists and turns, the officers of the Free "Syrian" Army received the instruction via satellite to decline. Their encrypted communications with their superiors either ended up in Beirut or were relayed via Beirut. De facto the journalists are being used as human shields even more effectively than civilians, the rebels fearing a final assault by Syrian forces.

Therefore, journalists are now the prisoners of those who sponsor the Free "Syrian" Army, the very same ones on whose behalf the "Friends of Syria," gathered at the Tunis conference, appealed for support, funds and arms.

-Thierry Meyssan

www.voltairenet.org/For-the-release-of-our-compatriots

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#12)

Kunstler Blog this AM:

Right on the mark per usual...except.....

"The political spin is a quixotic effort to promote another commonly touted lie about the future: that the US is approaching a point of "energy independence."

MY Edit: But we ARE achieving Energy Independence. Just not the kind that the USSA citizen was looking for...;}

You'll know we got there when you have to walk to your new job weeding the potato fields. The mendacity behind this propaganda is strictly the wish of politicians to avoid telling voters the truth, out of sheer cowardice for the consequences. US Energy Secretary Steven Chu will go down in history as a pathetically passive quisling, who thought he was honest and patriotic by standing in the background and keeping his mouth shut...."

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/02/a-fog-of-mendacity.html#more

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13) (Edited)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p0Y4nX...2-02-27+at+9.30.59+AM.png

Stuart at

earlywarn.blogspot.com/20...gas-prices-high.html#more

Detailing the Cardiac Arrest that the USSA Economy is in the Middle of right now. Started May 05.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

" Kabul on razor's edge By M K Bhadrakumar

The killing in Kabul on Saturday of two high-ranking American military officials - a colonel and a major - serving with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) will prompt a paradigm shift in regional security. Afghanistan surges as still America's number one "hot spot", over-shadowing Syria and Iran.

www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NB28Df02.html

We need to be pulling out our forces now so that they aren't stranded...

unless we consider Russia's guarantee of safe conduct thru their state to be trusted and valid when we most need them....;}

"

If President Barack Obama thought it was time for the United States military to "pivot" toward the Asia-Pacific, it has been delusionary thinking. The Taliban retain a big say still in the upcoming campaign for Obama's re-election bid.."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15) (Edited)

" Crocker added, "This is not the time to decide that we are done here. We have got to redouble our efforts. We've got to create a situation that al-Qaeda is not coming back. If we decide we're tired of it, al-Qaeda and the Taliban certainly aren't." Hmm. Now we know Crocker was addressing the American public. "

And I'm sure that our Saigon Ambassador made similar noises, secure in the belief that he had a SpecOps provided getaway Helo.

And noting from the 'Syria article' above that AQ is our bestest buddies now in both Libya and Syria but not in the Afghans....

Your State Dept at work....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

Syria: The Battle of Homs was won and reported to President Bashar al-Assad that it was over on Thursday, 23 February, at 1900 hours.

What more do you have on this battle?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-27   13:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Nothing now, except that Thierry's report is holding up, based on the Two/other reporters being moved to Beirut.

Nic Robertson (MI6-CNN) stating that 3 'activists' lost their lives, getting the reporters out....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#18) (Edited)

www.stripes.com/news/midd...ack-of-awareness-1.169946

"“This is not going back to business as usual,” an Army officer who works as an adviser in Kabul said Sunday. “The threat is still higher than normal.”

Once advisers return to the ministries, the officer said, some will probably have to shorten their visits, instead of remaining there for six- to 10-hour shifts, to reduce risks."

Why burn a book?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#19)

Why burn a Book?

Remember that Idiot snake handler in Florida who burned a Koran?

Evidently our famous CIA/SpecOps did not.

" A particularly revealing incident was the killing of a US colonel and major by an Afghan official inside the Afghan Interior Ministry’s Command and Control Center—supposedly one of the most secure facilities in Kabul.

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy.

" The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both......and jesus wept.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mcgowanjm (#20)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

That version of events is hard for me to believe.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-28   9:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All (#20)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy.

This. IS. Huge.

First, it reveals the Big Lie. These two, the LtCol and the Major were NOT just sitting at their deskes engaged in 'hearts&minds' coordination.

They were joking about burning the 'word of god' to Afghans.

And

Second, there was no intrigue here as 'back of the head' implies like how do you shoot TWO (one a SpecOps) in the back of the head.

EIGHT TIMES...that's a lot of noise in a building.

" Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy."

Was Saboor applauded as he walked out? As he got in his vehicle and drove away?

With this event there maybe 5 people on both sides- green & blue -talking back and forth to each other.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#21)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

That version of events is hard for me to believe.

It would be for me as well, except as I've posted above, the Two shots, one to each, to the back of the head was always harder to accept.

And the fact that Saboor did not slink away but was admired as he walked thru the building....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23) (Edited)

And of course the reaction by ISAF/NATO/USSA to immediately bring in ALL Liaisons with Afghan personnel speaks volumes.

The Washington Post quoted two Afghan policemen at a Kabul checkpoint. "Afghans and the world’s Muslims should rise against the foreigners. We have no patience left," one said, while his partner added, "We both will attack the foreign military people."

Again. Why would you burn a book?

[A]fter 2014, the Afghans will do the bulk of the fighting but will still have advisers from abroad in combat with them. U.S. forces are still expected to supply air support, artillery, medical evacuation and combat logistics after 2014 because the Afghan army will have none of these support services ready before 2016 at the earliest. The U.S. role will shift, but it is critically important to understand that, in the shift to a mission mainly devoted to advising and supporting — whatever the terms used — our forces will still be fighting on the ground, before, during and after 2014.

We'll be out by Xmas. Which means Iran will not have it's Eastern flank exposed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: All (#24)

Considering what we now know about the true strength of the Afghan National Army (ANA), the prospects for a clean cut appear slimmer everyday.

Depending on who’s doing the counting, the ANA consists of 100,000 to 150,000 soldiers, but only 1 percent of their units can operate without direct NATO assistance, according to Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, an officer with the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a recent interview with Military.com.

All we've done is create a ready made Army for the Taliban.

Maybe we should start cooperating with the ISI now for some valuable info instead of trying to destroy it?

And keeping the Pakistanis from taking Iranian gas....;}

To ReCap:

"Depending on who’s doing the counting, the ANA consists of 100,000 to 150,000 soldiers, but only 1 percent of their units can operate without direct NATO assistance, according to Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, an officer with the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a recent interview with Military.com.

Scaparrotti appears to think it is somewhat redeeming that after $12 billion of U.S. investment in 2011 alone, 42 percent of the ANA units are capable of leading security operations “with advisers.”

Thanks a lot — considering that after this week’s riots, NATO didn’t even deem its advisers safe enough to let them continue their work in the ministry buildings. ...

As of this moment there is almost ZERO interaction between this MultiBillion Army and ISAF/NATO/USSA...;}

Mullah Omar could give the order today and how many of that Army would fight under the White Taliban flag?

After 11 years and this is our effort revealed?

It's looking more and more like Saigon 1975.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   10:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mcgowanjm (#22)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy.

interesting

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-28   10:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#21)

You can't burn satans book (the koran) but you can burn gods book (the Bible).

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-28   10:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#26)

interesting

As for Karzai himself, installed as president by the US-led invasion of 2001 and long derided as the "mayor of Kabul," he stands exposed as the tool of a hated foreign occupation, despised even by his own policemen.

Don't you know that Palace is tense right now....;}

The desecration of the Korans at Bagram flows inexorably from the reactionary character of the US-led occupation of Afghanistan—a war of aggression waged against the Afghan people in the face of widespread opposition to war in the American and European working class.

Who had nothing to do with 9/11.

Amazingly, the act of burning a book will be the death of the Afghan Occupation.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   10:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mcgowanjm (#28)

Amazingly, the act of burning a book will be the death of the Afghan Occupation.

You might want to copyright that quote Jim.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-28   15:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mcgowanjm, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#24)

2014.

We'll be out by Xmas.

You're most likely right. They don't like the US timetable. Stupid to announce one, if you're going to quit just get the hell out.

Bring the troops home where they can burn all the Korans, Bibles, flags, Canadian Tar Sands oil, or whatever they want.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-28   15:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

You might want to copyright that quote Jim.

Feel free to take it as your own....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#27)

You can't burn satans book (the koran) but you can burn gods book (the Bible).

Burning any book is thoughtless.

Unless it's Day After Tomorrow and you're going to die from cold....;}

Even then, start with the Tax Code Section...8D

Just leave it alone. Fahrenheit 451.

Which, btw, gives the lie to the 'accidental' part of the story.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Syria: The Battle of Homs was won and reported to President Bashar al-Assad that it was over on Thursday, 23 February, at 1900 hours.

What more do you have on this battle?

"France opens negotiations with Syria to recover its 18 agents Posted by seumasach on February 27, 2012

Thierry Meyssan

27th February, 2012

On 13 February 2012, Thierry Meyssan revealed on the first Russian television channel that Syria had captured a dozen French soldiers. Voltaire Network is now in a position to confirm that as of 26 February the number of French prisoners is 18 (eighteen).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#33)

If Paris admits that they were on a mission, they will be entitled to prisoner-of-war status and protected by the relative Geneva Convention; but if Paris denies having sent them, they will be considered as foreign civilians and judged in Syria for their crimes, which are punishable by the death penalty.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#34) (Edited)

Can't do a sneak attack on Iran with Russia watching not 25 Klicks away....;}

According to the site, Russia is now able to track and control sea and air movements of U.S. and Israel in the eastern Mediterranean, including the airspace of Cyprus and Greece.

So that the USSA will be the Last to Know?

Please.....;}

" Israeli officials say if they decide to launch a pre-emptive attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, they will do so without the prior consent or knowledge of the US, according to an AP report citing leaked US intelligence.

­The message was conveyed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak to a number of senior US officials visiting the country, the news agency said, citing a US intelligence source. "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: All (#35)

And of course the And All Be All of this Bizarro World 12 year dance....

RPT-Saudi oil output nearing capacity limit | Reuters

www.reuters.com/article/2...udi-idUSL6E8CB0QB20120111

Jan 11, 2012 – Repeats JAN 10 story, no change to text)* Saudi Arabia now pumping just under 10 mln bpd* On paper should be able to reach 12.5 mln bpd* ...

The Saudis are at capacity. Expect Ghawar to do a Cantarell at any time now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: All (#36)

So...

In exchange for the French POW's....

" In the secret war against Syria, France and its allies are responsible for a conflict that caused the death of at least 3,000 Syrian soldiers and 1,500 civilians, plus economic losses and the sabotage of infrastructure estimated at least $ 3 billion.

inthesenewtimes.com/2012/...to-recover-its-18-agents/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone, All (#37)

Battle of Syria

*ping*

the above.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: All (#38) (Edited)

"The Afghan War shouldn’t be the world’s most complicated subject to deal with. After all, the message is clear enough. Eleven years in, if your forces are still burning Korans in a deeply religious Muslim country, it’s way too late and you should go.

Instead, the U.S. command in Kabul and the administration back home have proceeded to tie themselves in a series of bizarre knots, issuing apologies, orders, and threats to no particular purpose as events escalated."

"The only Afghans with access to that area are translators, Afghan officials said.

And I still don't believe that Interior Ministry Story....

"The BBC's Orla Guerin in Kabul says EIGHT shots were reported inside the building, which should be one of the safest in the capital, and that any Afghan who carried out the attack would have had the highest clearance....

And then the wo/man calmly walked out the front door, got in a car, and drove away, telephoning the Taliban to report FOUR men killed....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: All (#39) (Edited)

And here's some news:

From 1978...note how Afghan Movements perfectly reflect US Domestic ones....;}

"Reform and reaction: AD 1978-1979

Daud's government is overthrown (and he and most of his family killed) by a lef-wing faction within the army. When the coup is complete, the officers hand over control to the nation's two leftist political parties - Khalq (the People's party) and Parcham (the Banner party). The two are for once working in harmony, though only briefly.

Once in government, the two Khalq leaders seize power. Nur Mohammad Taraki becomes president and prime minister, with Hafizullah Amin as one of two deputy prime ministers. The Parcham leader, Babrak Karmal, is the other deputy prime minister - but he is soon despatched abroad as ambassador to Prague.

Taraki and Amin press ahead with a rapid programme of reform along communist lines. Equal rights for women are introduced, land is redistributed - all against the advice of Moscow, which favours a more cautious approach for fear of a Muslim backlash. Meanwhile the leaders of the Parcham party are persecuted and in several cases killed. Many, including Babrak Karmal, take refuge in Russia.

The Kremlin is soon proved right.

Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmpepQBs

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   10:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All (#40) (Edited)

Noting here how British Endeavors are ALWAYS presented as Victories, even as it's Empire is crumbling.....

sound familiar?

" In November 1878 three British armies push through the mountain passes into Afghanistan. They take Jalalabad and Kandahar by the end of the year, and soon seem to have achieved everything they might wish for. A very advantageous treaty is agreed in May 1879 with Yakub Khan (the son of Sher Ali, who has died in February).

Under the treaty Yakub Khan accepts a permanent British embassy in Kabul. Moreover Afghanistan's foreign affairs are from now on to be conducted by the British. But events soon prove that such a privilege can be dangerous in Afghanistan. In September the British envoy to Kabul and his entire staff and escort are massacred.

This disaster brings an immediate escalation of British military activity in Afghanistan, but to little political advantage.

Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmqbdc5n

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   10:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: All (#41)

And Karzai's chances of getting out of the Afghans alive get worse by the day:

"In March 1979 a resistance group declares a jihad, or holy war, against the godless regime in Kabul. In the same month more than 100 Soviet citizens living in Herat are seized and killed.

Meanwhile the two Khalq leaders are themselves at loggerheads. In September 1979 the president, Taraqi, attempts to assassinate his prime minister, Amin. Instead, within two days, Taraqi is in the hands of Amin supporters. Three weeks later he dies - 'of a serious illness', according to the official announcement.

Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmrOhyDX

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: All (#42)

"In March 1979 a resistance group declares a jihad, or holy war, against the godless regime in Kabul. In the same month more than 100 Soviet citizens living in Herat are seized and killed.

And what was happening in Iran at this time, you ask?

Iranian Revolution novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/his135/Events/Iran79.htmCached - Similar

31 March 1979, referendum approved the establishment of an Islamic ... 4 November 1979, Iranian militants seized the U.S. embassy in Teheran and held ...

So by the 4th of November, right smack dab in the middle of POTUS Election, Saigon 1975 in Kabul.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: hondo68 (#30)

They don't like the US timetable. Stupid to announce one

They did not want to.

Look thru the entire 'adventure'. McCain, only a lil while ago again stated the 'mission' was open ended.

You don't need Top Secret Intel to figure DC out....;}

CYA is Always the GoTo option.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: hondo68, All (#44)

""Now we are zooming the 5th floor of reactor 3, where the fuel storage pool is. We must be able to see the top of the fuel storage pool at the very place. There “must” be the fuel storage pool in the center of the screen. However, we can not see even a part of the pool from the sky."

Example of the finest CYA as only the Japanese know how.

Proclaiming that Fukushima is now in 'cold shutdown' and 'under control' there is therefore no need to prevent overflights.

The Major Media have thus been doing just that.

And so discover that the SFP of Reactor #3, the MOX reprocessed stuff is no longer there....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mcgowanjm (#44)

Jim, I'm reading; keep posting. Thanx...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-29   11:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mcgowanjm (#45)

the SFP of Reactor #3, the MOX reprocessed stuff is no longer there....

Even the pilgrims are using nuke power now. Move on up to the 20th century at least, if you can't make it all the way to the 21st.

Those Iranians are sure SLOW at building those plants. What's the hold up?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-29   15:23:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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