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Wanted to give you a head's up that I mentioned you on another board... Political / Re: Nuns vs. Romney: The Sisters Hit the Battleground State of Ohio « on: Today at 11:34:11 AM » Quote from: brownsfan on Today at 11:14:33 AM I know you *lie* with regularity, Offering information that stands in direct opposition to your separate reality does not obviate that information and render it into one or several falsehoods. In other words, your *arguments* are regularly decimated by me to the point of humiliation. This results in your melting down, calling me a lair and then attacking me personally. That is a pattern that both you and MusicLady repeat ad infinitum. The host at LP, also an Ohioan, routinely suffers a similar fate at my hand and responds in like fashion to yours. My conclusion? You Ohioans are pretty eff en stupid.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
That covers Chan...what about the others?
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
That's funny and true. A little surprising coming from you. Did they ban you?
So it locks you out? You have to go thru the front door ,eh? One moment, dick....;}
That's funny and true. A little surprising coming from you. Did they ban you? What's funny is that Brian got his feelin's hurt. You realize there' s a reason that not one woman is on this site. Dontacha think? Lulzzzz....;} An All White Male cast.....;}
Everyone is 'locked out' to view or post on the forum unless registered. No worries however, that place was dead even before it died.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
My 'feelin's' certainly weren't hurt but I can't stand liars, of which that forum host is.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
The "Liar's Nest" claim I requested my account be retired or some bullshit like that.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Three things that LF likes to avoid now: Market Manipulation.... Peak Oil..... Climate Change... Robin has no such inhibitions. Care to post something on the above Brian?....;} "#1. To: Robin (#0) The chart on the right shows U.S oil consumption. Take a look at the past few years: oil consumption has dropped nearly 2 million barrels per day since 2007. Over the same period, U.S. imports of oil have dropped 2.1 million barrels per day. That's 4 MMBD and what the author does not realize is that, Yes, we can and WILL stop oil imports. The problem is the reason we're stopping. There's No Return on Consumption. No burning/wasting oil, no economic growth. Which is why that Stat above also tells us how bad the Depression now is....;} And speaking of debt... How does the Lender get his collateral back on a loan for oil when the oil has been burned up....;} mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-29 10:14:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #2. To: mcgowanjm (#1) Which is why that Stat above also tells us how bad the Depression now is....;} That could be part of it. However, the freeways and toll roads are still full of cars. Traffic is as bad as ever here in SoCal. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist.” Dom Hélder Pessoa Câmara, Archbishop of Olinda and Recife, also known as the ‘Bishop of Corum’ Robin posted on 2012-06-29 10:20:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #3. To: Robin (#2) (Edited) That could be part of it. However, the freeways and toll roads are still full of cars. Traffic is as bad as ever here in SoCal. 4 MMBD from 22 MMBD = 18 MMBD. www.ceridianindex.com/index.php The UCLA pulse of Commerce Index. It's rolling over now. To match this. And Wonder how each and every one of those vehicles is paying for the fuel/car they're driving....;} mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-29 13:10:25 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
www.motherjones.com/kevin...t-fracking-its-efficiency And the chart's wrong. We're down 4 MMBD. Looking forward to nothing but crickets here from all the totally diverse knowledgeable not Homosexual But not liking uppity women either all white men....LMFAO
Your thread is getting to large and taking too much time to load. Going to put it on ignore. Perhaps you should start another. See ya...
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Going to put it on ignore. Perhaps you should start another. See ya... Talk to A K A about the editing. And I don't have any trouble with it. But after your ignorance I'm having some with you. Suit yourself.....;}
Robin hasn't lied to me... and we talk everyday. So I'll need your source. But not expecting anything else from you. ;}
I get in easy enough. And I like it because it IS easy enough to get into. And I post everyday. No problems with Anything I want.
And I don't see anything over here that TPF doesn't have except Fundys and Lack of women. ;}
Stone ran off all the wimmens.
Sounds homosexual to me....;}
“As a cavalry scout, it is my job to stay hidden. Wearing a uniform that stands out this badly makes it hard to do our job effectively,” he said. “If we can see our own guys across a distance because of it, then so can our enemy.” The fact that the government spent $5 billion on a camouflage design that actually made its soldiers more visible — and then took eight years to correct the problem — has also left people in the camouflage industry incensed. The total cost comes from the Army itself and includes the price of developing the pattern and producing it for the entire service branch.
So we think we're sneaking around in the Afghans while the Taliban can see as well as hear us comin' miles away.....;}
So, pray tell, how exactly did this particular clusterfuck happen, anyway? The problem, the researchers said, was an oddly named branch of the Army in charge of equipping soldiers with gear — Program Executive Office Soldier — had suddenly ordered Natick’s camouflage team to pick a pattern long before trials were finished. “They jumped the gun,” said James Fairneny, an electrical engineer on Natick’s camouflage team. Researchers said they received a puzzling order: Take the winning colors and create a pixilated pattern. Researchers were ordered to “basically put it in the Marine Corps pattern,” Fairneny said. For a decision that could ultimately affect more than a million soldiers in the Army, reserves and National Guard, the sudden shift from Program Executive Office Soldier was a head-scratcher.
#2. To: Robin (#0) It's over. Google Expose: the 2C degree fraud then Google: June 21 2012 Science Daily Lake E longest sediment core reveals 4 to 5 degree warming interglacial. then Google: EIA 6C degree rise by 2035. Scientists do not model a 4C degree rise for a reason. We've got maybe 18 years left. Probably less with the various Positive Feedback Loops like Methane Fountains Arctic Circle. Another ICe Age triggered by a 4-5C degree warmup or a Total crash of human emissions now... those are the only solutions left. mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-30 9:22:38 ET
LMFAO...even now this ARMY guy has ZERO idea of how .... revealing.....;}.... his statement is: " It’s worth noting that, flawed as it was, the universal pattern did solve the problem of mismatched gear, said Eric Graves, editor of the military gear publication Soldier Systems Daily, adding that the pattern also gave soldiers a new-looking uniform that clearly identified the Army brand." Yep...A CLEARLY IDed Army Guy...and that's EXACTLY what the Army was looking for....LMFAO...you can't make this up.
We're so fucked. Starting now....;}
by Ian Welsh Roberts voted how he did because health insurance companies are absolutely desperate for the money they will get from the mandate. All of the legitimacy arguments are bullshit, about 70% of Americans opposed the mandate.(pdf) This is more similar to TARP than anything else: it is a massive corporate giveaway, opposed by the majority of the population, and passed over their dissent.
Fragging.... In the U.S. military, fragging (from fragmentation grenade) refers to the act of deliberately assassinating another member, or members of the military, particularly (a) member(s) of ones own command or fighting squad. Additionally, the term can be applied to manipulating the chain of command in order to have an individual, or unit, deliberately killed, by placing them into harm's way with the intended result being their demise. An example would be to order a single soldier to perform a particularly hazardous task, and repeat the said task until they meet their demise. The term originated during the Vietnam War and was most commonly used to mean the assassination of an unpopular officer of one's own fighting unit. -wiki 525th Battlefield Surveillance Brigade - Wikipedia, the free ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/525...ield_Surveillance_Brigade The 525th Battlefield Surveillance Brigade is a unit of the United States Army .... was relocated from Fort Bragg to Fort Huachuca, where it was re-designated the ... # United States Army Intelligence Center and Fort Huachuca www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/wht-ppr.htmCached - Similar Sep 1, 1997 – TRADOC Pamphlet 525-5, Force XXI, outlines the Armyís future warfighting requirements; .... Conduct human reconnaissance and surveillance. Back in the pre Desert Storm years we had a Battalion Commander sent to our Battalion just as we were closing up the 2nd A.D. This LTC's first meeting with his NCO's began wih "It is my job to put as many of you as possible out of the Army as we downsize." It was pretty much down hill fast from there. So the Senior NCO's 7's and 8's all made an exit with a retirement in hand....... Then we get informed we are going to Saudi Arabia in three weeks and to get the Tanks ready to go. Never have I seen a greater failure in Leadership. He was so hated he had to have an armed guard at his tent every night. He had his "special" boots stolen.He had one leg shorter than the other and foreverafter was known as Col. Halftrack. Someone left a bullet on his pillow. He lost his weapon. Comming out of the minefield breech we leaned even with a GPS he couldn't read a map or keep a Battalion formation. He had so little respect at Division level (where he left) we couldn't get chow, fuel or supplies when we needed it. He was so adept at implementing trumped up UCMJ charges and those who made it through his "Command" often had their careers damaged beyond repair. So cry all you like about the death of a "Hero", you never know the whole story unless you were there. # J.M. Says: June 29th, 2012 at 7:14 am Ft Bragg….. The 525 has had alot of criminal problems the past few years. My SLC class had the current (at the time) BDE CDR as a guest speaker at Huachuca. He showed up late and smelling of booze, and spent more time talking about the leadership challenges (prostitution and drug rings run out of his barracks) then he did about MI. # 8 Beretverde Says: June 29th, 2012 at 8:11 am Workplace violence? # 9 ROS Says: June 29th, 2012 at 8:42 am Dear God…….
#1. To: Skip Intro (#0) This week’s spike toward triple-digit temperatures is unusual, they say. Climate scientists is the unspoken 'they'. How the USSA MSM Agit Prop manufactures the lie. Right in front of your face....;} mcgowanjm And now FOX mWEATHER is lying. After flipping from CNN showing 7 different 105 and Higher Temp marks across the USSA, FOX shows a map of tomorrow and not ONE 100 degree mark ion the map East of Dallas..... Good Luck with that declining Nielson you got going there....;}
And you can look up where I said back in Feb to look forward to 115 in KC by July....;}
#9. To: nolu chan (#6) (Edited) However, Obama could not have gotten that through Congress. He had a Super Mandate which he IMMEDIATELY negated by saying he wanted to.... wait for it.... 'Reach across the aisle for support' You know what the 'repukes' (Head's up to google-I'm actually using that word now...Lulzz.) would be doing with a Super Mandate....LMFAO This is the USSA...and we're an Empire....and as we grab it, it slips from our hands....;} "They work for the good of the greatest number, and the greatest number is number one. " Bull SHite... So why are the Top .1% Richer than God, with the Greatest Concentration of Wealth ever known after and as continuing the Greatest Wealth Transfer in Human History is continuing.. " they've given up everything that matters -- is there anything at all you won't give up? This is the inevitable result of engaging in this manner with a fundamentally corrupt system: Thus, the lesson: when you choose to be a critical part of a system that has become this corrupt -- and the endless corruptions of our corporatist-authoritarian-militarist system have been documented at great length here and in other places -- you will not ameliorate or "save" it. The system will necessarily and inevitably corrupt you. That last point is absolutely critical, and it must never be forgotten......;} -Arthur Silber mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-01 7:51:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #10. To: nolu chan (#6) The vote in November may well turn into a referendum on whether to keep the Obama TAX But Obama STILL calls it a MANDATE....;} "The Democrats don't actually favor a repressive, authoritarian state. The Democrats are good, and they want liberty and peace for everyone, everywhere, for eternity, hallelujah and amen. People who continue to believe this have evicted themselves from serious political debate, and they have willingly made themselves slaves to their enthusiastically embraced self-delusions. They confess a comprehensive ignorance of history, a stunning inability to understand the political developments of the last century, and a desire to place the story they have chosen, primarily because it flatters their own false sense of vanity and self-worth, above every relevant fact.
Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:11 am by mcgowanjm Re: Hot by Linda the Ozarker As FOX per this AM is now lying about the weather. Yesterday and today: 104/05/07's from Colorado to DC. That per CNN. Fox weather Map for tomorrow. Not one 100 degree temp (98 the highest :lol: ) on the map from OKC to DC.... :twisted: * Top * Report this post * Reply with quote * Edit post mcgowanjm * Profile * Private message User avatar VIP VIP Posts: 4610 Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:23 am Post Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:21 am by mcgowanjm Re: Hot by Linda the Ozarker Post Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:21 am by mcgowanjm pamela wrote:here's a really timely article posted today by Linda the Ozarker! http://conflicteddoomer.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/hot/ When asked, in the Q/A session, about the buildup of CO2 from burning fossil fuels and resulting problems from climate change, Mr. Tillerson reckoned that while climate change from increased CO2 is real and causing problems, he was not so sure science was able to predict with any accuracy the coming effects with current models. He implied that, those “interested persons” with their fear mongering were exaggerating the effects, that problems such as sea level rise and the movement of food production areas due to drought,..... And thank you, Pamela. I had that article cued up to read and just deleted it. bullshit. Note to PM. Climate change ...Peak Oil.....Market Manipulation....and we're Not EVEN talking about the synergistic interacting Positive Feedback Loops from same is not Only News... it's the Truth that's being replaced by Silence...evil.... :twisted: Because this Post is the Cutting Edge...and look at that quote again: When asked, in the Q/A session, about the buildup of CO2 from burning fossil fuels and resulting problems from climate change, Mr. Tillerson reckoned that while climate change from increased CO2 is real and causing problems, he was not so sure science was able to predict with any accuracy the coming effects with current models. He implied that, those “interested persons” with their fear mongering were exaggerating the effects, that problems such as sea level rise and the movement of food production areas due to drought,.... I’m often asked why people living in industrialized nations shouldn’t relent to hopelessness and party like hedonists as the world burns. My typical response is to ask how our lives would be different if we suddenly starting acting like hedonists.
Good July Morning...8D The Good News for me is that I'm self referencing Climate Change acceleration as I google for news on EIA 6 C degrees by 2035 ;} So I'm going to experiment on just dumping raw data here, like, once a day or so....;} " It's also instructive to look at how much more global temperature would rise if solar, wind and hydro were not available at the levels estimated by EIA between 2008 and 2035 and coal were used instead.[7] The additional rise would be about 0.0016 C in the case of solar, 0.0126 C for wind, 0.0565 C for hydro, and 0.0706 C for all three of these alternatives combined.[8] These avoided temperature increases are significant and renewable energy installations will keep on giving beyond 2035, but they are a small component of the overall temperature equation, which by the same assumptions is predicted to rise 0.49 C from carbon added to the atmosphere over this period. These limits to mitigation deliver a clear message: It's past time to begin adapting to climate change with the same effort and specificity that communities invest in preparing for a coming hurricane or flood. Many involved in climate policy see this, but many other policymakers do not. We need to be ready for melting ice, rising sea level, floods, droughts, weather extremes, and changing, stressed ecology. We need zoning and other policies to stop people from moving into low-lying coastal cities and areas that will be more prone to flooding and drought. We need to breed and genetically engineer crops that will handle extremes. We need to anticipate where water shortages will arise and build needed infrastructure or shift how the land is used. We need to protect and manage ecosystems with a view to how they will change and move, preserving corridors for migration and dispersion. We need to establish and maintain a global bank for the DNA and viable tissue of all known species and new species as they are described, as a safety net against extinction. Most of all, we need to fasten our political will to action now. Who knows? If we accept the realities of adaptation, maybe the picture will be so vivid, ugly, and expensive that we'll address mitigation too. www.brookings.edu/researc...mate-change-reality-brown EIA 6 C 2035 Methane is a global warming pollutant like carbon dioxide – only much more potent. http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blog...s_needs_tighter_prod.html 5C and above – Highly unlikely nightmare scenario With a 5C rise, global average temperatures would be hotter than for 50m years. The Arctic region sees temperatures rise much higher than average – up to 20C – meaning the entire Arctic is now ice-free all year round. Most of the tropics, sub-tropics and even lower mid-latitudes are too hot to be inhabitable. The sea level rise is now sufficiently rapid that coastal cities across the world are largely abandoned. Above 6C, there would be a danger of "runaway warming", perhaps spurred by release of oceanic methane hydrates. Since record amounts of water vapor can evaporate into air heated to record warm levels, it is not a surprise that incredible rains and unprecedented floods are resulting from this month’s near-record warm SSTs in the Gulf of Mexico. http://thinkprogress.org/climate...ming-we-wouldnt-see-this/ globalwarming.berrens.nl/globalwarming.htm Four days into the crisis, survivors were packed into the city’s Superdome, living next to overflowing toilets and rotting bodies as gangs of young men with guns seized the only food and water available. Perhaps the most memorable scene was a single military helicopter landing for just a few minutes, its crew flinging food parcels and water bottles out onto the ground before hurriedly taking off again as if from a war zone. In scenes more like a Third World refugee camp than an American urban centre, young men fought for the water as pregnant women and the elderly looked on with nothing. Don’t blame them for behaving like this, I thought. It’s what happens when people are desperate. Chance of avoiding one degree of global warming: zero. OK....That's It!.....;} The Raw Data Collection for July 2, 2012
thinkprogress.org/climate...ming-we-wouldnt-see-this/ “Nashville has reached its hottest temperature on record…109 degrees at 314 pm. The previous all time record was 107 from July 27th and 28th of 1952.” UPDATE: Meteorologist Dr. Jeff Masters has more all-time heat records: 109° Columbia, SC (old record 107° on two previous occasions) 109° Cairo, IL (old record 106° on 8/9/1930) 108° Paducah, KY (ties same on 7/17/1942 106° Chattanooga, TN (ties same on 7/28/1952) 105° Raleigh, NC (ties same on 8/21/2007 and 8/18/1988) 105° Greenville, SC (old record 104° 8/10/2007 although 106° was recorded by the Signal Service in July 1887) 104° Charlotte, NC (ties same on 8/9 and 10/2007 and 9/6/1954) 102° Bristol, TN (ties same on 7/28/1952-this site now known as `Tri-State Airport’) 109° Athens, GA. This is just 1° shy of the Georgia state record for June of 110° set at Warrenton in 1959. Here is a great graphic via Capital Climate: The U.S. surface temperature map from Unisys at 4 pm, June 29,2012, shows 100° temperatures stretching almost continuously from California eastward to the Carolinas. NBC Meteorologist Bill Karins said on Friday , “We’ve never really seen a heat wave like this in the month of June.” Sadly, in a few decades this will just be considered a normal June (see below).
All-time records set Thursday included several in Kansas, where Norton Dam recorded a high of 118°F, beating the old record of 113°F set just a few days earlier. Dodge City, Kan., set a daily high temperature record with a mark of 108°F. That came one day after that town recorded its all-time highest temperature of 112°F, breaking the old record of 110°F, which had been recorded just two days earlier, on June 26.
The peak temperature analysis comes from a Geophysical Research Letters paper that focused on the annual-maximum “once-in-a-century” temperature. The key scientific point is that “the extremes rise faster than the means in a warming climate.” And the following will not happen because humans won't make it past 2035 except with an Ice Age...;} The definitive NOAA-led U.S. climate impact report from 2010 warns of scorching 9 to 11°F warming over most of inland U.S. by 2090 with Kansas above 90°F some 120 days a year with 850 ppm.
Water Supply Shortages | Water Scarcity | Climate Change www.global-warming-forecasts.com/water-supply-shortage-water-sca... Lake Mead's water levels could drop below its water intake pipes by 2013. ... Hoover Dam - Lake Mead Water Levels, 1983 and 2007 ..... What will be the impact of forecasted 1) spikes in extreme seasonal temperatures and 2) the .... They say just a few degrees' rise in temperature could mean less snow in the mountains, ... IF not for the Record 2010-11 snow pack..... So we're down to No Snow this year like last (2011-12).... take off the Record 2010-11 Lake Mead water vol increase and Lake Mead is there. No power generation from Hoover Dam.
BETWEEN ONE AND TWO DEGREES OF WARMING YOU> ARE> HERE>.....;} 400 ppm CO2 at the Arctic now = 2 C decgree rise since 1760 Baseline. At this level, expected within 40 (UPDATE-4 ;) years, the hot European summer of 2003 will be the annual norm. Anything that could be called a heatwave thereafter will be of Saharan intensity. Even in average years, people will die of heat stress.
Notice how we don't get any City Heat Emergencies anymore...? OF what happens in say Chicago as it hits 100? " The first symptoms may be minor. A person will feel slightly nauseous, dizzy and irritable. It needn’t be an emergency: an hour or so lying down in a cooler area, sipping water, will cure it. But in Paris, August 2003, there were no cooler areas, especially for elderly people. Once body temperature reaches 41C (104F) its thermoregulatory system begins to break down. Sweating ceases and breathing becomes shallow and rapid. The pulse quickens, and the victim may lapse into a coma. Unless drastic measures are taken to reduce the body’s core temperature, the brain is starved of oxygen and vital organs begin to fail. Death will be only minutes away unless the emergency services can quickly get the victim into intensive care.
#15. To: mcgowanjm (#11) And don't forget your Health Mandate Card when you go to vote, nolu....;} I've got Medical covered three ways. I'm not sure what could be used for routine certification of Federal citizenship eligibility to vote. Perhaps everyone could be given the option to obtain a passport at birth, and maintain it, or be taxed into submission for opting not to have a passport. nolu chan posted on 2012-07-01 15:07:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #16. To: Robin (#12) I'm not sure how much the average voter is paying attention. The Citizen's United funding of the political war chest means so much corporate money that when they get ramped up after the nominations, you will want to turn off your TV and radio just to get away from the ads blaring. It will be a war of negative ads. nolu chan posted on 2012-07-01 15:13:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #17. To: nolu chan (#15) I'm not sure what could be used for routine certification of Federal citizenship eligibility to vote. Perhaps everyone could be given the option to obtain a passport at birth, and maintain it, or be taxed into submission for opting not to have a passport. And Thank You, nolu My point exactly. The IRS will now be taxed (pun intended;) to gather the Health Insurance tax. IT will now be up to the IRS, and of course they have all kinds of time on their hands, to VERIFY as well TAX. You'll need a box when ever dealing with anything Federal and a whole new bureaucracy will need to be created. Complexity collapse gains velocity. OR we can eliminate the Middleman and go to Single Payer Medicare/VA for all....;} mcgowanjm
Re: World Markets - URL Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:20 am by mcgowanjm PM wrote:Nothing in here but chaos, but it will go on and on and on, till earth abides If I thought that was the cas :twisted: :? 8-) e I wouldn't be here..... And it IS all in the wording. Words DO have meaning then..... :!: Chaos Does have order. And it only seems to be interminal because you fall into the Agit Prop trap of the royalty. And speaking of who's in charge. A quick way to tell is how good guerrilla vids are taken down o so quickly. Google Kate Middleton taxi queen and try to watch that vid..... :twisted: Why does royalty exist? We are moving ahead. There is an End Game now. Humans have been good at just about one thing, seen from a Martian POV: Population Increase.....which makes us no different than Yeast Culture. With the same result. And you can see exactly where we are in the fermentation process as well. If I was making bread with human culture, I'd be putting the yeast culture into the dough now...... :twisted: :? 8-) Planet Hell is taking over now. 2 avg snows and a drought the next three Winters and Hoover Dam will stop producing electricity......by 2017. There’s more than a little irony in this last area, because their normally self-publicising punditry has to somehow square the circle of being good at their jobs – that is, investment on behalf of clients – and being completely blind – that is, not noticing that Libor is variously a sham, a scam, a lie, and a tip-top hoodwinking practice fully approved by the British Bankers’ Association (BBA) to the point where the BBA serially lied about it in press releases stretching back five years. mcgowanjm User avatar VIP VIP Posts: 4624 Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:23 am Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:25 am by mcgowanjm Re: World Markets - URL Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:25 am by mcgowanjm The Best quote of the day from CNBC: MY Edit: And yes, I turned the volume on this AM. Only took 20 secs, but I did suffer to be one of the 87 000 (holiday viewers :twisted: watching) A guy from the Chicago floor: 'After all, this (LIeBor) started before the Crisis....' This is how bad history gets written. 'Bad' meaning 'Not the way it happened', which is what revisionist history is all about. Just that phrase/statement above. The first question I'd ask is: So when did this crisis start? And could you be wro :twisted: ng about that.... mcgowanjm User avatar VIP VIP Posts: 4624 Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:23 am Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:34 am by mcgowanjm Re: World Markets - URL Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:34 am by mcgowanjm So when did this crisis start. And BTW, for an effective google, you need to know the answer beforehand. Weird huh? Extracts from * The ACT’s Guide to the Loan Market Association Documentation for Investment-Grade Borrowers, 1 June 2007. It seems, however, that in the current market conditions the data being provided by banks for the purposes of calculating the displayed screen rates for LIBOR and EURIBOR is not in all cases reflecting the true cost of funds. If this is correct, it means that banks are not providing good information and, as a result, they are triggering a situation in which the Market Disruption clause is likely to be invoked, thus enabling banks to abandon the transparent system of displayed screen rates and instead to charge borrowers interest rates based on the individual cost of funds of each bank. This is a highly opaque and cumbersome way to calculate interest on major loans. www.treasurers.org/marketdisruption/pressrelease YA THINK :?: :roll: :shock: :twisted: Now what was happening with bear stearns june 2007 Bear Stearns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_StearnsCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo On June 22, 2007, Bear Stearns pledged a collateralized loan of up to $3.2 billion to "bail out" one of its funds, the Bear Stearns High-Grade Structured Credit ... Good Thing the Crisis hadn't started yet and that Bear Stears had that ACT LIBOR policy missive in hand, eh? mcgowanjm User avatar VIP VIP Posts: 4624 Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:23 am Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:40 am by mcgowanjm Re: World Markets - URL Post Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:40 am by mcgowanjm And note to PM. This won't go on much longer.... say 071021... because the PRoblem with market manipulation and AgitProp is that it slows down transmission of information. Information Reality treats Censorship, which is what we're talking aboutn here as a MALFUNCTION. And Will IMMEDIATELY institute Workaround procedures. Which is why it's not some kind of magic or wild imaginings for me to come up with 062112 as an Inflection Point. After 35 years of this guerrilla information warfare, I'm running right along side these 1/2 human cretins. They're out of Arguements and out of time and so must resort to violence. 071012
Anyone wondering if the reason why Diamond resigned less than 6 hours ago is because he suddenly grew a conscience, will be disappointed. The real reasons are two: on one hand politicians were concerned he would make it public where all the bodies were buried as reported last night, in the process taking down at least half the English political establishment, obviating his departure from the public eye immediately, and, more importantly, as BBC's Robert Peston reports, the English Fed, that "impartial" and "apolitical" institution known as the Bank of England, got involved. The Ken Lay Principle..... :twisted: :? 8-)
Really? Hey SJN, jimmy thinks there are no women here at LF. Go figure, guess he is hanging out in the men's locker room again looking for women:)
As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
Market Manipulation.... Peak Oil..... Climate Change... You are forgetting Muslim manipulation. You seem to forget about that here in the padded room: As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
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#1526. To: Brian S (#1522)
Why you linking to a 'closed forum' where only bitches and cunts are allow to read the posts?
#1527. To: Brian S (#1522)
Why you linking to a 'closed forum' where only bitches and cunts are allow to read the posts?
#1528. To: Brian S (#1522)
#1529. To: A K A Stone (#1527)
Why you linking to a 'closed forum' where only bitches and cunts are allow to read the posts?
#1530. To: mcgowanjm (#1528)
So it locks you out?
#1531. To: mcgowanjm (#1529)
What's funny is that Brian got his feelin's hurt.
#1532. To: A K A Stone (#1527)
Did they ban you?
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#1535. To: mcgowanjm (#1533)
#1536. To: Brian S (#1535)
Your thread is getting to large and taking too much time to load.
#1537. To: Brian S (#1531)
My 'feelin's' certainly weren't hurt but I can't stand liars, of which that forum host is.
#1538. To: Brian S (#1530)
No worries however, that place was dead even before it died.
#1539. To: All (#1536)
#1540. To: mcgowanjm (#1539)
#1541. To: Fred Mertz (#1540)
Stone ran off all the wimmens.
#1542. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#1543. To: All (#1542)
#1544. To: All (#1543)
#1545. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#1546. To: All (#1544)
#1547. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#1548. To: All (#1547)
#1549. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)
#1550. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#1551. To: All (#1550)
#1552. To: A K A Stone (#0)
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#1554. To: A K A Stone, All (#0)
#1555. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#1556. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#1557. To: All (#1556)
#1558. To: All (#1557)
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#1561. To: A K A Stone (#0)
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#1563. To: All (#1562)
#1564. To: mcgowanjm, SJN, Liberator (#1529)
You realize there' s a reason that not one woman is on this site.
#1565. To: mcgowanjm, Liberator, A K A Stone (#1533)
Three things that LF likes to avoid now:
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