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#1391. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Re: Pakistan discussion

Picasso Moon wrote:No branch of TPTB has ever committed suicide. These people fight to the death. The American branch will commit suicide if it starts pulling back from the empire, as once a branch pulls back, other branches push right in.

The USSA 'branch' is the tree trunk.... :? 8-)

The periphery crumbles. See the USSR for details..... :twisted:

Sep 2009:

“Instead Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, presented a list of clandestine counterterrorism operations that the CIA wanted to conduct in Pakistan, such as stepping up drone attacks, raising the number of CIA agents and covert contractors, and even setting up a parallel intelligence organisation that would be hidden from the ISI,” Rashid said.

“The CIA’s recommendations were accepted, but they soon led to a complete breakdown of relations with Pakistan.”

Rashid writes that both the Pakistani and the Afghan governments resented the fact that a major US escalation of troops was being undertaken without consulting them or soliciting their views.

By Mansoor Ijaz

Early on May 9, a week after US Special Forces stormed the hideout of Osama bin Laden and killed him, a senior Pakistani diplomat telephoned me with an urgent request. Asif Ali Zardari, Pakistan’s president, needed to communicate a message to White House national security officials that would bypass Pakistan’s military and intelligence channels. The embarrassment of bin Laden being found on Pakistani soil had humiliated Mr Zardari’s weak civilian government to such an extent that the president feared a military takeover was imminent. He needed an American fist on his army chief’s desk to end any misguided notions of a coup – and fast. Gen Ashfaq Kayani, the army chief, and his troops were demoralised by the embarrassing ease with which US special forces had violated Pakistani sovereignty. Inter-Services Intelligence, Pakistan’s feared spy service, was charged by virtually the entire international community with complicity in hiding bin Laden for almost six years. Both camps were looking for a scapegoat; Mr Zardari was their most convenient target. The diplomat made clear that the civilian government’s preferred channel to receive Mr Zardari’s message was Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff. He was a time-tested friend of Pakistan and could convey the necessary message with force not only to President Barack Obama, but also to Gen Kayani. In a flurry of phone calls and emails over two days a memorandum was crafted that included a critical offer from the Pakistani president to the Obama administration:

“The new national security team will eliminate Section S of the ISI charged with maintaining relations to the Taliban, Haqqani network, etc. This will dramatically improve relations with Afghanistan.”

The memo was delivered to Admiral Mullen at 14.00 hours on May 10. A meeting between him and Pakistani national security officials took place the next day at the White House. Pakistan’s military and intelligence chiefs, it seems, neither heeded the warning, nor acted on the admiral’s advice. On September 22, in his farewell testimony to the Senate armed services committee, Admiral Mullen said he had “credible intelligence” that a bombing on September 11 that wounded 77 US and Nato troops and an attack on the US embassy in Kabul on September 13 were done “with ISI support.”

Essentially he was indicting Pakistan’s intelligence services for carrying out a covert war against the US – perhaps in retaliation for the raid on bin Laden’s compound, perhaps out of strategic national interest to put Taliban forces back in power in Afghanistan so that Pakistan would once again have the “strategic depth” its paranoid security policies against India always envisioned.

Source: www.defence.pk/forums/strategic- ... z1ydZXKY8d

Memo from Zardari to Mike Mullen November 19, 2011 . 328 Comments in Featured Articles

BRIEFING FOR ADM. MIKE MULLEN, CHAIRMAN, JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF

During the past 72 hours since a meeting was held between the president, the prime minister and the chief of army staff, there has seen a significant deterioration in Pakistan’s political atmosphere. Increasingly desperate efforts by the various agencies and factions within the government to find a home – ISI and/or Army, or the civilian government – for assigning blame over the UBL raid now dominate the tug of war between military and civilian sectors. Subsequent tit-for-tat reactions, including outing of the CIA station chief’s name in Islamabad by ISI officials, demonstrates a dangerous devolution of the ground situation in Islamabad where no central control appears to be in place.

November 26, 2011 6:03 AM

Pakistan: 24 dead in NATO helicopter attack

(AP)

Last Updated 4:22 p.m. ET

PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Pakistan on Saturday accused NATO helicopters of firing on two army checkpoints in the country's northwest and killing 24 soldiers, then retaliated by closing the border crossings used by the coalition to supply its troops in neighboring Afghanistan.

(The death toll was previously reported as 26.)

The incident Friday night was a major blow to already strained relations between Islamabad and U.S.-led forces fighting in Afghanistan. It will add to perceptions in Pakistan that the American presence in the region is malevolent, and to resentment toward the weak government in Islamabad for its cooperation with Washington.

And then we were at war with Pakistan.

As this is happening domestically:

When the entire economy is banditry, where are the limits, or are there any?

Banks are failing, to be bailed out by nations needing bailouts themselves: both nations and finance are insolvent. Creditors demand citizens take losses in creditors’ place. This strategy fails as citizens lack the means to absorb any more losses. Creditors’ positions are too large to be liquidated without effecting markets in a vicious cycle, some creditors are being wiped out. The efforts of central banks to date have kept pace with speculator redemptions which have prevented markets from crashing. These efforts succeed to the extent that speculators do not rush the exits at once.

When creditors take losses the real panic begins: it is every creditor for himself. Nobody cares when ordinary citizens lose everything and wind up on the streets, the elites losing fortunes is too much to bear.

062112 started it.

The week after July 4 will see momentum pick up.

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