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Title: Have seen effects of Keystone pipeline
Source: Yuma Sun
URL Source: http://www.yumasun.com/opinion/keystone-76953-yuma-canada.html
Published: Feb 23, 2012
Author: Anthony James Fornof
Post Date: 2012-02-25 23:05:01 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 43902
Comments: 95

I would like to respond to Charles Davison's Feb. 13 letter to the editor regarding the Keystone XL pipeline.

As a summer resident for some years now of Day County in South Dakota, I have observed firsthand some of the effects of the first Keystone pipeline now in operation.

I am taken aback by Davison's statement that “the dangers of a leaking pipeline into the aquifers is nothing.” It is certainly nothing to him if it is not his water or land being contaminated. Keystone has had 13 leaks on U.S. soil since going operational. One in Day County was not reported to any government agency at the time of the spill. Lucky for Day County residents, it was a somewhat small and contained spill. Canada's part of the Keystone pipeline has had 21 spills.

The jobs have been a fraction of what has been realized.

All of the Native American tribes in our area were opposed to Keystone and are currently opposed to Keystone XL.

Trans Canada (KSPL) got $2.85 million in tax credits and has paid $2.95 million in state property taxes. This is a half to a third of what they projected to pay.

When right-of-way contracts were being negotiated with landowners, they were given the options of taking Trans Canada's deal or were told the right of way would be taken through eminent domain — their property being condemned. This was told to me directly by one of Trans Canada's negotiating agents.

In Davison's letter, he advocates the government mandate the oil be sold domestically. Is he for more government control? Does he realize this oil is not “drilled” for but comes from “open pit” like operations in Canada? Our government does not tell Canada how or where to conduct the exploiting of its natural resources.

Keystone XL oil will be sent to Texas and refined mostly into diesel fuel to be shipped to South American and European markets. Keystone XL will, by most accounts, cause our domestic fuel prices to rise.

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#7. To: lucysmom (#0)

Have seen effects of Keystone pipeline

Want to see the effects of leftard loonytoon eco-moonbats domestic energy policies? Check out the prices at the gas stations, look at the prices of food and everything else skyrocketing because of shipping costs. Look at more layoffs by US industry because it can't make product at a competitive price when their energy bills keep going up higher and higher.

And all this silly shit it unnecessary, it's economic suicide committed for absolutely no logical reason.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-02-26   5:38:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Happy Quanzaa (#7)

Want to see the effects of leftard loonytoon eco-moonbats domestic energy policies? Check out the prices at the gas stations, look at the prices of...yada, yada, yada.

Ok, 'spane how supply is up, demand is down and prices are rising.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-26   10:32:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#12)

Ok, 'spane how supply is up, demand is down and prices are rising.

Environmental over regulation.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-26   10:40:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#13)

Environmental over regulation.

I know that's a Republican talking point - I'm wondering if you really know what that means.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-26   11:00:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#15)

I know that's a Republican talking point - I'm wondering if you really know what that means.

It means sometimes they go overboard on the hoops they make a company go through in order to do business in California.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-26   12:14:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)

It means sometimes they go overboard on the hoops they make a company go through in order to do business in California.

How does California's environmental regulations impact the Keystone XL pipeline?

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-26   12:30:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom (#19)

How does California's environmental regulations impact the Keystone XL pipeline?

We are talking about this quote from you.

"Ok, 'spane how supply is up, demand is down and prices are rising."

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-26   12:35:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)

"Ok, 'spane how supply is up, demand is down and prices are rising."

Yeah, what has that got to do with gas prices outside California?

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-26   12:38:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#21)

I just told you we subsidize the cheaper energy in the Midwest by buying our supply from more expensive sources. You should be grateful.

Why do you think I should be grateful? Why did you say that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-26   12:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#25)

Why do you think I should be grateful? Why did you say that?

Why did you post that to Lucy? Don't you understand English?

Do you really want Californians competing with you for oil? I thought you already knew the principles of THE FREE MARKET.

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-26   12:50:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mininggold (#26)

Why did you post that to Lucy? Don't you understand English?

Because I was hoping you would slip up so I would know you are both the same person.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-26   12:51:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#27)

Because I was hoping you would slip up so I would know you are both the same person.

Why do you have to be so dishonest? We are very different people who just happen to have some issues in common.

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-26   12:54:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#28)

We are very different people who just happen to have some issues in common.

Back to the issue of California's environmental regulations, do you remember what the bay area air quality was like in the 60s and 70s?

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-26   13:22:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#35. To: lucysmom (#33)

"Back to the issue of California's environmental regulations, do you remember what the bay area air quality was like in the 60s and 70s?"

I do. It was extraordinarily horrible. Many people in other parts of the country have problems comprehending the shear size of the fleet of privately owned cars in California. The current regulations passed because it was a matter of survival to do so.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-26 13:28:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: lucysmom (#33)

Back to the issue of California's environmental regulations, do you remember what the bay area air quality was like in the 60s and 70s?

I remember the smog when the population wasn't half what it is now and I lived in the East Bay where it wasn't considered that bad. We did hold horse shows in Rodeo on weekends and by three o'clock in the afternoon everyone complained of headaches from the Union 76 pollution.

I also remember going down the Santa Ana Freeway in the late seventies and not being able to see Santa Ana or even the car in front.

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-26 13:30:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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