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Title: Barbara Boxer: Right to Insurance Trumps Religious Freedom
Source: LN.com
URL Source: http://www.lifenews.com/2012/02/15/ ... ance-trumps-religious-freedom/
Published: Feb 19, 2012
Author: Steven Ertelt
Post Date: 2012-02-19 08:56:22 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 91777
Comments: 155

Barbara Boxer: Right to Insurance Trumps Religious Freedom

by Steven Ertelt

Barbara Boxer, the leading pro-abortion member of the U.S. Senate, made some comments in a recent MSNBC interview that are sparking outrage across the Internet today. Boxer essentially says the right to insurance trumps religious rights and freedoms.

The comments came during an interview concerning the controversial mandate pro-abortion President Barack Obama put in place recently requiring religious groups to pay for insurance coverage for birth control and drugs that may cause abortions.

As the Washington Examiner reports:

Senator Boxer warned yesterday that if the HHS contraception mandate was repealed it would set a dangerous precedence of religious rights trumping the right to be insured.

On MSNBC’s Politics Nation with Al Sharpton last night, Boxer affirmed that under the proposed amendment proposed by Sen. Roy Blunt, an employer would not be forced by the government to pay for medical practices against his religion.

“I mean, are they serious? Sharpton exclaimed, “How do you make a law where an employer can decide his own religious beliefs violate your right to be insured?”

“Oh Absolutely,” Boxer said, “Let’s use an example, let’s say somebody believes that medicine doesn’t cure anybody of a disease but prayer does and then they decide no medicine.

“No medicine!” she exclaimed, “Under the Blunt amendment, they could do just that.”

The new mandate pro-abortion President Barack Obama put in place forcing religious employers to pay for insurance coverage including birth control and abortion-inducing drugs is so offensive more than 50 members of Congress will speak out against it today.

Congressman Jeff Fortenberry will hold a press conference today with supporters of the bipartisan, bicameral Respect for Rights of Conscience Act. His legislation would protect the religious liberty and conscience rights of every American who objects to being forced by the strong-arm of government to pay for drugs and procedures recently mandated by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

Related Links Tell Obama: Stop This Pro-Abortion Mandate

The Fortenberry bill currently has the support of approximately 220 Members of Congress and Senators, the most strongly-supported legislative remedy to the controversial HHS mandate. This measure would repeal the controversial mandate, amending the 2010 health care law to preserve conscience rights for religious institutions, health care providers, and small businesses who pay for health care coverage.

The press conference comes as the U.S. Senate is expected to vote soon, possibly as early as today, on an amendment that would stop the mandate President Barack Obama put in place to force religious groups to pay for insurance coverage that includes birth control and abortion-causing drugs.

Sen. Roy Blunt, a pro-life Missouri Republican, is putting forward the Blunt Amendment, #1520, again, and it is termed the Respect for Rights of Conscience Act. According to information provided to LifeNews from pro-life sources on Capitol Hill, the Blunt Amendment will be the first amendment voted on when the Senate returns to the transportation bill. The amendment would allow employers to decline coverage of services in conflict with religious beliefs.

Republicans are moving swiftly with legislation, amendments, and potential hearings on the mandatethe Obama administration has put in place that forces religious employers to pay for birth control and abortion-inducing drugs for their employees.

Congress will do what it can to fight back, starting this week, as pro-life Rep. Darrell Issa, a California Republican, puts together a hearing on conscience rights.

“If this is what the President is willing to do in a tough election year, imagine what he will do in implementing the rest of his health care law after the election,” Issa said.

Rep. Dan Lipinski, a pro-life Illinois Democrat, and a host of Republicans from the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), will hold a hearing entitled, “Lines Crossed: Separation of Church and State. Has the Obama Administration Trampled on Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Conscience?” on Thursday, February 16th at 9:30AM in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building.

On Thursday, Senators Roy Blunt (R-MO), Ben Nelson (D-NE), and others offered Amendment #1520 to ensure Obamacare cannot be used to force health plan issuers or healthcare providers to furnish insurance coverage for drugs, devices, and services contrary to their religious beliefs or moral convictions. However, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, the top Democrat, blocked the amendment.

Leading pro-life groups, including Americans United for Life, are urging support for the Amendment, which could be added to another piece of legislation.

“The Obama Administration continued its unprecedented attack on Americans’ freedom of conscience by refusing to reverse its mandate that nearly all insurance plans must provide full coverage of all Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved “contraception,” including the abortion-inducing drug ella,” the organization said in an action alert to its members. “We must urge the Senate to protect Americans’ freedom of conscience by supporting Amendment #1520, which would protect the right to provide, purchase, or enroll in healthcare coverage that is consistent with one’s religious beliefs and moral convictions.”

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a statement saying Obama’s revised mandate involves “needless government intrusion in the internal governance of religious institutions” and it urged Congress to overturn the rule and promised a potential lawsuit.

Meanwhile, the Republican presidential candidates had been taking verbal swings at Obama for imposing the original mandate on religious employers, which is not popular in the latest public opinion poll and which even some Democrats oppose.

Congressman Steve Scalise has led a bipartisan letter with 154 co-signers calling on the Obama Administration to reverse its mandate forcing religious organizations to include drugs that can cause abortion and birth control in the health care plans of their employees.

Bishops across the country have spoken out against the original mandate and are considering a lawsuit against it — with bishops in more than 164 locations across the United States issuing public statements against it or having letters opposing it printed in diocesan newspaper or read from the pulpit.

“We cannot — we will not comply with this unjust law,” said the letter from Bishop Thomas Olmsted of Phoenix. “People of faith cannot be made second-class citizens.”

The original mandate was so egregious that even the normally reliably liberal and pro-abortion USA Today condemned it in an editorial titled, “Contraception mandate violates religious freedom.”

The administration initially approved a recommendation from the Institute of Medicine suggesting that it force insurance companies to pay for birth control and drugs that can cause abortions under the Obamacare government-run health care program.

The IOM recommendation, opposed by pro-life groups, called for the Obama administration to require insurance programs to include birth control — such as the morning after pill or the ella drug that causes an abortion days after conception — in the section of drugs and services insurance plans must cover under “preventative care.” The companies will likely pass the added costs on to consumers, requiring them to pay for birth control and, in some instances, drug-induced abortions of unborn children in their earliest days.

The HHS accepted the IOM guidelines that “require new health insurance plans to cover women’s preventive services” and those services include “FDA-approved contraception methods and contraceptive counseling” — which include birth control drugs like Plan B and ella that can cause abortions. The Health and Human Services Department commissioned the report from the Institute, which advises the federal government and shut out pro-life groups in meetings leading up to the recommendations.


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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

Straw man.

Health care is a right.

Also good bizness....;}

Pay your taxes, stop receiving Fed Aid and you can do whatever you want....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-19   9:18:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Health care is a right.

Where is that right listed in the US Constitution?

We The People  posted on  2012-02-19   10:48:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: We The People (#2)

Where is that right listed in the US Constitution?

Are you saying we are only allowed to have the rights directly listed in the constitutions?

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-19   12:05:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mininggold, mcgowanjm (#3) (Edited)

Where is that right listed in the US Constitution?

Are you saying we are only allowed to have the rights directly listed in the constitutions?

No. If I had said that, my post would have read, "we are only allowed to have the rights directly listed in the constitution".

I asked a question. That question was...

Where is that right (health care) listed in the US Constitution?

If you can't or wont address what I ACTUALLY said, why bother to respond?

We know that health care is not a listed right in the US Constitution. Can either of you tell me where it is even insinuated?

We The People  posted on  2012-02-19   12:18:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: We The People (#5)

f you can't or wont address what I ACTUALLY said, why bother to respond?

We know that health care is not a listed right in the US Constitution. Can either of you tell me where it is even insinuated?

If we have rights other than those directly listed in the Constitution, why would it matter?

Then why did you ask the question? But a god given right covers lots of territory especially when the constitution explicitly mentions the 'general welfare'.

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-19   12:33:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mininggold (#7)

You have the right to purchase health insurance...you don't have the right to have the government steal money from me and buy it for you...understand the concept?

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-02-19   12:39:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: freedomsnotfree (#10)

You have the right to purchase health insurance...you don't have the right to have the government steal money from me and buy it for you...understand the concept?

Yet it's okay to have them do the same to provide a militia for defense? Or do you guys want to go back to the good old days of those wonderful feudal mercenary armies?

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-19   12:44:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mininggold (#11)

Yet it's okay to have them do the same to provide a militia for defense?

Yes, because the militia, for the common defense, is listed in the US Constitution.

Multiple times.

We The People  posted on  2012-02-19   12:47:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: We The People (#12)

Yes, because the militia, for the common defense, is listed in the US Constitution.

Multiple times.

Tell me how you keep the soldiers healthy if you don't have a system that promotes general welfare? Oh that's right! They are special citizens with special rights and one is their very own right to healthcare.

No where in the constitution does it mention a caste system of special rights for certain categories of citizens.

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-19   12:52:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#15)

Why do you feel entilted to the fruits of another persons labors? Is that not the very diffinition of slavery?

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-02-19   12:54:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: freedomsnotfree (#17)

Why do you feel entilted to the fruits of another persons labors? Is that not the very diffinition of slavery?

I look at it like this. Would I rather have some person who is well off paying a little more in taxes or would I rather see people not get the health care they need when they need it and risking death or becoming severely ill. Explain to me why I should care about the plight of the well off individual in this situation?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-02-19   15:29:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: NewsJunky (#77) (Edited)

I look at it like this. Would I rather have some person who is well off paying a little more in taxes or would I rather see people not get the health care they need when they need it and risking death or becoming severely ill.

Death and severe illness cannot be legislated away. Even the best insurance and health care that other peoples money can buy will not stop us from dying or becoming severely ill. None of us are getting off this planet alive.

Explain to me why I should care about the plight of the well off individual in this situation?

That's not the issue. The issue is whether health care is a right, (as in constitutional) or if government has the right to tax you to pay for others health care.

They are already taxing you to feed others, even others in other countries. How much of your labor are you willing to give to others, involuntarily?

We The People  posted on  2012-02-19   15:49:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: We The People (#78)

Even the best insurance and health care that other peoples money can buy will not stop us from dying or becoming severely ill. None of us are getting off this planet alive.

So? What does that have to do with people getting the health care they need when they need it? The current system we have now with people using the emergency rooms in a crisis is not a solution.

The issue is whether health care is a right, (as in constitutional)

Its not a right and neither is food but we have programs to provide for food.

or if government has the right to tax you to pay for others health care.

The government has the "right" to tax you for "whatever" the government through its elected leaders decided to enact into law.

How much of your labor are you willing to give to others, involuntarily?

I don't know if have an exact number. If I look at specific proposal I could give you my opinion of them.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-02-19   16:12:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#82. To: NewsJunky (#80)

The government has the "right" to tax you for "whatever" the government through its elected leaders decided to enact into law.

No, I'm afraid they do not, as has been clarified in this thread.

We The People  posted on  2012-02-19 16:39:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: NewsJunky (#80)

The government has the "right" to tax you for "whatever" the government through its elected leaders decided to enact into law.

The Supreme Court decides what the government can and can't do.

LOL!

OK, which is it?

Does .gov have unlimited power or doesn't it?

We The People  posted on  2012-02-19 17:09:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: NewsJunky (#80)

I don't know if have an exact number. If I look at specific proposal I could give you my opinion of them.

well, we are 15 Trillion dollars in debt...where's the money coming from. Obviously the government you worship has corrupted itself beyond measure...and the poor are poorer, the uneducated more abundant, the unemployment exploded, the middle class is being wiped out...and you want to give them MORE of that which they have already used to bring this about. You need to SERIOUSLY re- evaluate your premises. Since the introduction of socialism/communism in this country, we've gone from the wealthiest nation on the planet, the the greatest debtor nation.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-02-19 17:20:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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