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Title: What Version of the Christian Holy Bible Do You read?
Source: LF
URL Source: http://hereandnow
Published: Feb 18, 2012
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2012-02-18 17:52:56 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 289489
Comments: 449

Assuming you have a Christian Holy Bible of one flavor or another, what version do you read?

As several examples, here are several variations: the New King James Version, New Living Translation, New International Version, New Revised Standard Version and so forth.

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#1. To: buckeroo, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#0) (Edited)

Romans 13 is probably the most devastating thing to a Christian in the hands of the ungodly. It sounds so convincing to obey those who appear to be in power. For too long, secular governments have used Romans 13 as a club to beat Christians into obedience to them. Just because a group maintains power through their guns and jails, does not mean God put them there.

God said there are powers not ordained by Him at Hosea 8:4, "They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not."

God didn't put them in power over the righteous. That's Satan's idea. The righteous don't need worldly, filthy authorities, which are no authorities at all. Do you think that they can instruct the righteous? They themselves steal. They themselves are perverts. And they presume to instruct the righteous? I don't think so.

The NIV is revisionist history at it's worst, written by satist NWO neocon libtards. The following chart demonstrates just how far they strayed...


Warning: Beware of the Living Bible and the Good News Bible. They are merely Bible paraphrases, not translations. The wording is not true to the original Hebrew and Greek. The scriptures are perverted to support secular Christianity.

Romans 13:1-7

King James Bible
(Translation)

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:


4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.


5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.


7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Living Bible
(Paraphrase)

Obey the government, for God is the one who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power.

 2 So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow.

3 For the policeman does not frighten people who are doing right; but those doing evil will always fear him. So if you don't want to be afraid, keep the laws and you will get along well.

4 The policeman is sent by God to help you. But if you are doing something wrong, of course you should be afraid, for he will have you punished. He is sent by God for that very purpose.

5 Obey the laws, then, for two reasons: first, to keep from being punished, and second, just because you know you should.

6 Pay your taxes too, for these same two reasons. For government workers need to be paid so that they can keep on doing God's work, serving you.

 7 Pay everyone whatever he ought to have: pay your taxes and import duties gladly, obey those over you, and give honor and respect to all those to whom it is due.

 

Understanding Romans 13:1-7

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-18   18:14:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#1)

The NIV is revisionist history at it's worst, written by satist NWO neocon libtards. The following chart demonstrates just how far they strayed...

Does the chart that you posted include the version you read? That is to ask: Do you read the King James Version? Why don't you read the New King James Version?

**** good comparison BTW.... still, what do you use by your bed stand? Why not the Gideon's Bible?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-02-18   22:31:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#7)

American printers discovered that they could leave out the Apocrypha and sell the Bible for the same price, and no one would care because it wasn’t used much. Some of the homegrown religious groups naïvely assumed that whatever was not in their Bible was not in the canon. Later, when Catholics became a significant segment of the population, a non-Catholic would say, “That’s not in the Bible” to a Catholic, completely unaware that it was the printer who left it out. A Lutheran pastor told me that one of his parishioners was insistent that the Lutheran Church did not recognize the Apocrypha as canonical. The parishioner was astonished when he saw the church by-law that says it is.

Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox Christians use the Apocrypha, and it is part of the Bible for them. Many independent churches and low-church denominations think it is a Catholic addition when it is really a printer’s subtraction.

In other words, printers removed the Apocrypha from the Bible, not any church.

www.kencollins.com/bible/bible-p1.htm#out

KJV (Gideon), and Douay-Rheims Version. Gideon is just a KJV, AFIK.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-19   0:03:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68 (#14)

Gideon is just a KJV

Using your own methods similar to the chart in post #1, please provide a reference of and about the King James Version (KJV) that reflects the passages of Romans 13 with respect to the Gideon Bible. You need not get fancy in HTML ... just the text ... nothing but the text.

I would enjoy seeing how those versions of the Christian Bible are similar. Your help is important and I thank you in advance.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-02-19   0:37:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#15)

passages of Romans 13 with respect to the Gideon Bible

Should be the same as KJV. If you can find something different, post it.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-19   1:04:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: hondo68 (#16)

Should be the same as KJV.

Nope. I just scanned: Gideon's Readings for August 14th - Evening study ... and compared it to your table in post#1.

You are correct, Gideons Bible seems to be a direct copy of the KJV at least for Romans 13. How did you know that?

Why is that other version you offered so different? How did you know that, too?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-02-19   1:35:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo (#18)

Why is that other version you offered so different? How did you know that, too?

Actually I have "the living bible -paraphrased" which I found discarded by the wayside.

"The Living Bible is a compilation of Scripture paraphrases previously published by Tynsdale House Publishers under the following titles:

Living Letters, 1962; Living Prophecies, 1965; Living Gospels, 1966; Living Psalms and Proverbs, 1967; Living Lessons of Life and Love, 1968; Living Books of Moses, 1969; Living History of Israel, 1970."

I keep it in the bathroom in case I run out of toilet paper, after the economy finishes collapsing and California formally becomes Aztlan.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-19   2:17:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#21. To: hondo68 (#20)

I keep it in the bathroom in case I run out of toilet paper

Sounds like a great piece of work to wipe my ass with, too. Have you seen the following? Here:

New Living Translation (NLT) Romans 13 Respect for Authority

1 Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.

2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.

3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.

6 Pay your taxes, too, for these same reasons. For government workers need to be paid. They are serving God in what they do.

7 Give to everyone what you owe them: Pay your taxes and government fees to those who collect them, and give respect and honor to those who are in authority.

Why would I pay any money to buy mere shit paper? HELL, I'm IN! Tomorrow, I'm mailing my 2011 IRS statement in... I'm doing the work of GOD, now.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-02-19 02:34:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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