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Title: Rights bill for unborn children passes
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TW.com
URL Source: http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/arti ... id=20120216_16_A1_OKLAHO650872
Published: Feb 18, 2012
Author: BARBARA HOBEROCK
Post Date: 2012-02-18 09:59:22 by CZ82
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Comments: 69
Rights bill for unborn children passes With Senate approval, the personhood measure heads to the House. By BARBARA HOBEROCK World Capitol Bureau Published: 2/16/2012 2:08 AM Last Modified: 2/16/2012 7:41 AM OKLAHOMA CITY - The Oklahoma Senate passed a measure Wednesday that would declare that personhood begins at conception. Senate Bill 1433 by Sen. Brian Crain, R-Tulsa, heads to the House for consideration after securing passage in the Senate by a vote of 34-8. It is the first bill the Senate has passed since returning to session Feb. 6. "The laws of this state shall be interpreted and construed to acknowledge on behalf of the unborn child at every stage of development all the rights, privileges, and immunities available to other persons, citizens, and residents of this state," the measure says. It includes an assurance that legal action could not be brought against a woman for indirectly harming the unborn child by failing to properly care for herself or by failing to follow any particular prenatal care program. Crain said the measure would not prohibit contraception or in vitro fertilization. It also would not ban abortion because Roe v. Wade, the landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision, allows it, he said. But Senate Pro Tem Brian Bingman, R-Sapulpa, acknowledged that "this bill is one of many Senate Republicans have advanced which affirms right to life, and I am proud to support it." An amendment Sen. Constance Johnson, D-Oklahoma City, offered to draw attention to what she sees as the sexist nature of the bill did not get heard because of a procedural move by Crain. Her proposed amendment declared that if a woman became pregnant as the result of a rape, the rapist would undergo a vasectomy, be fined $25,000 and be financially responsible for the resulting child until the child turned 21. Crain said his bill was requested by Oklahomans for Life. Tony Lauinger, Oklahomans for Life chairman, watched the debate from the Senate gallery. Sen. Judy Eason McIntyre, D-Tulsa, said it was disturbing that men who want smaller government and less government intrusion are trying to make personal health decisions for women. She said bills such as Crain's are written to get the Republican base to the polls. "You can get elected without these kind of tactics," McIntyre said. Crain said the bill was not about getting re-elected. "The unborn have no voice of their own," he said. Wes Glinsmann, a spokesman for the Oklahoma State Medical Association, said his organization opposes the measure. The Oklahoma Coalition for Reproductive Justice also opposes it. Members of the group wore pink and sat in the Senate gallery during the discussion of the bill, which lasted about two hours. Sen. Jim Wilson, D-Tahlequah, said the bill "is bad for business" and "makes Oklahoma look silly." While Sen. Richard Lerblance, D-Hartshorne, said it would have several unintended consequences in areas ranging from probate to insurance, Sen. Kim David, R-Wagoner, urged senators not to be swayed by critics using scare tactics.
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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)
Good.
Now you will have the government demanding to know how many times you had sex last week and monitoring your wife's periods. I thought you were for less government?
You sure lie a lot. Show me that in the bill. You can't. You're a liar. Where do you come up with this dumb shit anyways? Are you trying to sound stupid?
It's the law of unintended consequences, dummy. Do you know that every female inmate has their periods monitored?
Show me it in the bill. You can't.
I don't have to since they will be allowed to formulate a plan to enforce the bill which will give them the leeway to do what is right for the unborn. You might as well call it the Oklahoma Nurse and Socialworker Employment Act.
HB1 rationalizes that, because “Georgia has the duty to protect all innocent life from the moment of conception until natural death,” the failure of an inseminated egg to come to term should fall under suspicion as an act of “prenatal murder.” So, if Franklin has his way, hospitals would be mandated to report every miscarriage (which, he points out, is known medically as “spontaneous abortion”) to the local police, who would then somehow ascertain the cause of the miscarriage. The burden of proof, in other words, would be placed on the woman who might be mourning the loss of her pregnancy. There are many egregious problems with this bill, but, for starters, consider just the scientific angle. According to the National Institute of Health’s website, “among women who know they are pregnant, the miscarriage rate is about 15-20%.” According to the Mayo Clinic, this is a conservative estimate, and it does not include the miscarriages that occur when a fertilized egg fails to implant properly and is thus released from the body during menstruation. In these circumstances, women rarely know that they are pregnant, let alone that they have miscarried. (Some women have recently sent Franklin form letters along with photos of their used tampons, writing, “I would like to be sure that I am not killing any more Georgia citizens.”)
The government should kill the bitches that kill their babies. Do you think bitches that kill their babies should be allowed to live?
Only if the sperm donor is killed along with her.
Only if the sperm donor is killed along with her. What if he didn't want his slut to get an abortion? If he is the one encouraging it. Sure.
What if he didn't want his slut to get an abortion? If he is the one encouraging it. Sure. If he killed the baby 12 seconds after it were born he would face murder charges...only the mother can kill the baby before it's born. Funny...how according to the government, anyone touching a bald eagle egg is subject to HUGE federal charges...because the government acknowledges the "thing" inside the egg is a protected species and is indeed a baby eagle, but when it comes to a "child" it's nothing more than a mass of tissue. I DEFFINATELY believe in a woman's right to chose...she can chose whether or not to spread her legs for any creep that comes along...the fact SHE made a wrong choice, doesn't give her the right to kill someone...the child.
But the man has no responsibility for his sperm, or choosing the woman to share his sperm with?
So, your only EXCUSE for the, promiscuous WHORE who would do this to a helpless, unborn baby, is to blame it's torture and death on the man? It wasn't the men who fathered these sleeping angels that did this to them, it was their MOTHER's who sentenced them to death, by any means their sick, twisted abortionist chose to use. For every two babies born another baby dies in an abortion. That's 1.2 million babies each year; That's over 3,300 babies every day; That's 1 baby every 25 seconds; That's over 54 million babies since 1973; And that's just here in America...
ANYONE can tell that is a child. It's OK to kill them 30 seconds before they're born and murder to kill them 30 after they're born...this country is so sick. We have a number of friends that had to adopt children from out of the country because there are so few here...the women having these abortions should have the baby and put them up for adoption if they must...but I guess that would be to inconvenient.
Whether she know's it or not, women who commit these pre- meditated murders, are of the same mind-set as a Islamic Jihadist fanatic. They think nothing of throwing gasoline on a person, set them on fire and watch them burn...
#65. To: Murron (#64)
It's a saline solution that actually BURNS the INNOCENT baby to death. But you know...it's just SOOOO inconvenient to put the children up for adoption, and who knows, the adoptive family may mistreat them...so let's just murder them instead...hey, we MAY even be doing them a favor! Not even the most base animal kills her unborn...
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#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)
Good.
#3. To: mininggold (#2)
Now you will have the government demanding to know how many times you had sex last week and monitoring your wife's periods. I thought you were for less government?
#5. To: A K A Stone (#3)
You sure lie a lot. Show me that in the bill. You can't. You're a liar. Where do you come up with this dumb shit anyways? Are you trying to sound stupid?
#6. To: mininggold (#5)
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)
Show me it in the bill. You can't.
#11. To: mininggold (#7)
I don't have to since they will be allowed to formulate a plan to enforce the bill which will give them the leeway to do what is right for the unborn.
#12. To: lucysmom (#11)
#14. To: A K A Stone (#12)
The government should kill the bitches that kill their babies.
#17. To: lucysmom (#14)
The government should kill the bitches that kill their babies.
#47. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#17)
The government should kill the bitches that kill their babies. Only if the sperm donor is killed along with her.
#49. To: freedomsnotfree (#47)
I DEFFINATELY believe in a woman's right to chose...she can chose whether or not to spread her legs for any creep that comes along...
#56. To: lucysmom, freedomsnotfree (#49)
"But the man has no responsibility for his sperm, or choosing the woman to share his sperm with?"
#61. To: Murron (#56)
#64. To: freedomsnotfree (#61)
ANYONE can tell that is a child. It's OK to kill them 30 seconds before they're born and murder to kill them 30 after they're born...this country is so sick.
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