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Title: $50 MILLION Embezzled by the Good Christians at Trinity Broadcast Network
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URL Source: http://unicornbooty.com/blog/2012/0 ... -at-trinity-broadcast-network/
Published: Feb 17, 2012
Author: Posted by Kevin Farrell
Post Date: 2012-02-17 14:02:13 by Ferret Mike
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Views: 65050
Comments: 133
The granddaughter of Trinity Broadcasting Network’s Paul and Jan Crouch has accused the world’s largest Christian broadcaster of unlawfully distributing charitable assets worth more than $50 million to the company’s directors. The charges are leveled in a federal lawsuit filed by Crouch granddaughter Brittany Koper last week against her former lawyers, who also do legal work for TBN. “Observers have often wondered how the Crouches can afford multiple mansions on both coasts, a $50 million jet and chauffeurs,” said Tymothy MacLeod, Koper’s attorney. “And finally, with the CFO coming forward, we have answers to those questions.” This would hardly be the first scandal to rock the nation’s largest Christian broadcast network. A gay engineer sued Trinity in 2009 after his sexuality was publicly mocked with pornography in the office and accused of having a “fairy man-gina” by Paul Crouch Jr., son of the network’s founder. Crouch left the network soon after the lawsuit. One final fun fact to chew on: Trinity pays no taxes on its $827.6 Million in revenue and assets, as it is considered to be a religious non-profit organization by the federal government. $50 MILLION embezzled by Christian television executives, accusations of man-gina possession, sexual harassment lawsuits, and pornography in the office? How terribly Christlike.
Paul and Jan Crouch under $50 Million of soft focus.
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#94. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
People donating money to the Trinity Broadcast Network, is not different than people buying products advertised on American Idol- or buying a movie ticket. There are some great shows on that network, that are inspiring people. So there you go. Mike you and I have discussed WICCA in the past, and I told you I had even been to WICCA meetings and understood some of the mindset. People who watch those shows are seeking answers- just like you are. No need to try to shame people. Live and let live- right? :) AND if you ever want to have a calm and rational discussion about how WICCA is not what you think it is- let me know. I was in WICCA. I got a POV that you can not deny and I would LOVE-LOVE-LOVE to tell you what I know. I took a beautiful friend to church with me- JUST today- who is recovering from WICCA. I talk to her at length and she has to admit I know what I am talking about. You know there is a darkness in WICCA that holds you in bondage. You can not deny that to me. I know better. There is only one true light- and it is Jesus. You know that WICCA does not and can not quench your thirst for understanding of nature. 2 Samuel 22:29 29 You are my lamp, O LORD; the LORD turns my darkness into light. The Lord calls to you and others in WICCA. You know WICCA does not hold the answers. AND for the record, you are just as worthy and wanted as anyone else. Jesus LOVES it when someone sees the right path. Best wishes and God bless you.
buck you are wrong. I was in Wicca for a short time. It is all about magic and spells. WICCA is witchcraft and placings spells and curses on people.
What is the difference between Wicca "magic and spells" vs. Christian "beads/crosses&baptism and prayers"?
I used the Firefox adblock function to block that. Not interested in reading fiction, dude.
nice to see you Betsy, but I'm fine without the religion merely geared to manage human populations. but thanks for your post. I am fine like I am.
That is a very good question. It is about the will. In WICCA people learn that they can control their environment by casting spells and curses. NOW- granted there is black magic and white magic. They both work, giving people a sense of control over their lives- which sounds good on it's face- until we realize that we really are not in control- we are being used as pawns to control other people. It is very bad to take someone's free will. That is actually putting someone else in bondage- and the rule of the universe is that we will all reap what we sow. It doesn't matter if you believe that you reap what you sow- or not. It is true. So- back to beads and things. Again- I am not catholic. I do not pray to anyone who is dead- or speak to anyone who is dead- other than Jesus. Catholics pray to people they call saints- I don't really understand that. Ask a catholic. baptisim.. is not taking anyone's free will.. it is a personal choice a person makes on their own behalf.. so that is ok. Prayers is asking for something someone has asked us to pray for - or praying for ourselves. We are not taking the free will of anyone else. God also respects people's free will, so should we. Umm crosses- I am not sure what you are asking there? But I personally believe that a cross is an idol. I honestly believe we are to have NO idols (I am kind of a puritan on idols).. so I don't have a cross, myself. Hope that is helpful.
Spell casting is much like what Chritains do by praying. All Wicca deals with is promoting the positive. it is against our religion to cast anything black or bad anyone's way. Both actions are a human trying to dream positive things into being, or reflecting on what happens in life. There is never anything to be gained by either religion knocking this aspect each has.
ok Mike- but this is honest and sincere- drop me a note if you want to chat. Some of the passion you see in believers is that Jesus is so beautiful and good. We want to share that with people- ESP if He has delivered us. Passions are fire- but people don't always have to get burned, right. :) Take care.
White magic is basicially taking God out of the picture. NOW- when I was in WICCA that seemed so peaceful and harmless and most of those people who casting white magic are loving and good people, indeed. Christians who pray are worshiping God, and giving him the power. WICCANS who cast white magic spells are not allowing God into their lives. They are going around God. And it works, many times whether the person deserves what they asked for or not- it works in the temporary- but the question is- what happens AFTER. God allows free will, remember. WICCANS also miss out on knowing the love of Father God. We find that love- in relationship with God. WICCANS make something else their God, or just do without God. But prayers and white magic are really not at all the same.
I respect Islam, Judaism, Christianity and all people's right to worship as they chose. But I have a beautiful faith that matches my belief system and gives me what I need. I am also willing to share my religion, and have helped many come to Wicca, or fix what they were doing wrong as a solitary practitioner and get them grounded and resonate with the Goddess. I am the one who helps people when they discover the most foundational religion to life and human beings. I would be more help in sorting out your confused thoughts than you would in trying to get me to know know what I know. Thus if you are as rock solid in your paradigm of religion as I am in mine, we don't have anything to share with each other at this time. But let me know if you ever need help. let the blessings be.
Wicca doesn't practice "magic." It is a neo-pagan or animistic approach to identifying mother earth. I don't know what you are talking about UNLESS within your background with some cult happened fool you about their styles. Wiccan practices and beliefs are largely in response to economic/political/resource issues and really isn't a pure belief system in my opinion. Most everyone identifies with the world around ourselves; Wicca folks accentuate that perspective is all.
It is enough they are both tools, and are used for positive things. And magic is worshiping the Goddess and accessing power, with the giving going both ways. There is no point in my knocking what you do, and none knocking what I do. Wicca is also monotheistic, not polytheistic.
I set up alters and use them and other tools to channel white magic. Magic can be done individually or in a group. As there are many ways to pray, there are many ways to invoke magic.
Do you use chicken blood and voodoo dolls with pins? If so, I want you to take a list of people that I plan for the next time you meet at your "alter,"
Actually, I don't have a religion. :) And I am not knocking what you do at all. I understand it actually. I am not knocking anyone's religion- altho I do on occasion get annoyed with Catholics. I beleive Jesus came to set us all- everyone in the entire world- free from the bondage of religion. The other thing is that Jesus- the Christ was all about equality between male and female, and it would surprise you early followers of Christ were not hung up on gender. Women were very much apart of the early church- and I would bet you money if you looked at the early church- YOU would be comforted. But I won't go there. BUT you can let me know if you want me to.. ;) Religion, in my opinion, is a bad thing in the world. Religion divides people and kills love. God is love.
buck- have you been to WICCA Meetings? If so, what did you talk about?
Come on over and share your opinions on a different thread, here. Your input is welcome, of course. Yes, I am an Eastern Orthodox Christian. Thanks for the invitation to the other thread. I may go over and participate some, but my time will be limited in the coming week with offline obligations.
lol- ok- listen I have to go- as entertaining as this is for me.
Heh, nope. We do white maic and care about promoting good, kindness and the best in people. Black magic and dealing with the dangerous tangle of hatred, revengeful thought and other nasty things like that I want no truck in whatsoever. I don't live to hate or want bad for others; that is not the Wicca way to establish a relationship with our creator and our relationship with her.
If you blocked it, then you did not review it, which means you cannot form an opinion on it.
Of course not, other than to spread lies about Christianity allegedly slaughtering millions of your co-religionists when that is factually untrue. Do Wiccans not consider lying about others to be hateful?
Do Wiccans not consider lying about others to be hateful? We have quite a few professed Christians on this site who lie and spread tales about others constantly, and even stalk some posters around the internet. Is that considered good Christian behaviors? Christians definitely killed hundreds of thousands of American Indians most of whom followed religious practices similar to Wicca.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Christians definitely killed hundreds of thousands of American Indians most of whom followed religious practices similar to Wicca. Lying and stalking are not considered good Christian behaviour. Lying is specifically condemned in the Bible quite strongly. On the other hand, the "Burning Times" lie is extremely common amongst Wiccans and other neo- pagans. As leftists, they seem to find it extremely comforting to portray themselves as an oppressed minority even though the majority of them come from middle class white backgrounds. And as in this case so far, my experience with Wiccans who spread the "Burning Times" propaganda lies is that most often when they are confronted with the facts they do not correct or change their behaviour but cling to their false victim status like a security blanket. And to isolate a relatively small group of Christians as representative of the whole is silly. Furthermore, what Indian tribe practiced S & M sex rites while possessed by demons? Please give a citation.
The satanist wiccans cant even tell us why they believe in a "goddess". I think one of the freaks tripped on acid. Then the low confidence losers who gravitate towards satanism/wicca in their desire to get back at society they grasp at straws in their desire to have a religion too. To bad they are to dumb to know it is satan they worship. Morons all of them.
I read your earlier posts. suffice it to say we do not agree on much. I am not going to discuss Wicca with you unless some of the vitriol is toned down on this board and ideas instead of personal attacks become the order of the day. Nice to meet you buy the way, and thanks for the ping.
And I have no interest in doing so as long as some on this board refuse to discuss ideas civilly. The block is no reflection on you, it is a statement about the poisonous tone in here by some toward others because of religious disagreement. nice to meet you by the way.
You're "religion" is made up. That is why you can't explain your belief in the toad or the goddess or whatever it is you have your "faith" in.
I agree. I don't waste my time watching it. I can't even remember the last time I took a glance at it to see what was on.
OBAMA HAS SPENT MORE MONEY THAN ANY OTHER PERSON IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.
I don't need to lower myself to explain anything to abusive people. That is the bottom line here. Grow up.
All religions are "made up". His religion is very close to that currently practiced by numerous American Indian tribes, so are you saying you hate them too?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
It is nice to meet you as well. It is of course your own choice what you choose to discuss. But for an additional comment I will explain further why I view it as very hateful to characterise the victims of the witch-hunts of European antiqity as pagans. Almost all of the victims of these cruel tortures and executions repeatedly professed that they were Christian! Contrary to what one may think, refusing to admit to being a witch and professing that they were Christian only assured that they would face even worse torture. Those who "confessed" and then went through a fake "repentance" for their non- existent "crimes" were often released. Those who steadfastly insisted that they were Christian only assured that more torture and possible execution awaited them. So in what way is it at all moral to state that these poor people were liars and that they really were "witches". If you believe that people have immortal souls, how is it in anyway ethical to continue the slander of them that they endured at the last of their earthly lives? Here is an example from a summary of a witch trial. Do you believe that this poor woman was a liar and really was a closet pagan? All of her actions are consistent with her being a Roman Catholic -- her "confessions" only came after horrific torture, and as can be seen she immediately retracted them when given a chance -- only to endure more torture: "Ann Kaserin and her husband Georg Kaser kept an inn in Eichstatt, Germany, in the early 17th century. Eichstatt was hit by a Witch craze, one of the worst that Germany experienced. During it, several condemned Witches stated that they had seen Ann at a sabbat, making love to a demon. Ann was accused by twelve different Witches over nine years -- and yet the courts never arrested her. We're not sure why the courts were so lenient. Ann and Georg were wealthy; perhaps they had friends at the court or bribed some of the officials. Around 1629, Ann and Georg moved to Rennertshofen hoping to avoid the dangers of Eichstatt. However in March, 1629, Ann was arrested on charges of Witchcraft and taken to Neuburg for trial. Guards searched her house for signs or implements of Witchcraft, but discovered nothing. At Neuburg, Ann was first kept chained to a wall. Georg got permission to bring her a bed, and with it, a letter. "If you are guilty, O my Treasure," he wrote, "confess it. But if you are not guilty, you have a holy authority, by which you may demand God's grace and with which we may console our small children." He then told Ann how much he missed her, and how badly the house was falling apart now that he and the kids were on their own. On March 19, Ann appeared before the court for the first time. She swore she wasn't a Witch, though she admitted that she knew she'd been named by condemned Witches. That was the reason that she and Georg had fled Eichstatt. The court warned her that she would be tortured if she did not confess, but Ann maintained her innocence. Two days later, she was summoned a second time. Again, she affirmed her innocence, and the court handed her over to the executioner for torture. First came the thumbscrews. Ann endured this, insisting that the accusations against her came from hatred. People were jealous of her because she had money and fine dresses. When the thumbscrews failed to break the woman, the executioner brought out the strappado. The strappado was a simple but hideously effective torture. The Witch's arms were tied behind her back. A rope was fastened around her wrists and run through a loop on the ceiling. Then the executioner hauled the Witch up into the air, twisting her shoulder blades painfully, and frequently dislocated one or both shoulders. Many courts increased the torments by tying weights to the Witch's ankles, or by dropping them and jerking them back into the air. Ann was lifted in the strappado. And after hanging for fifteen minutes, arms wrenched behind her, she broke. The charges against her were true, she said. She had three pots of flying ointment and when she wished to go to a sabbat, she anointed a fork with these ointments and promptly flew away. She swore she never harmed a human being, but admitted that she had slept with demons and prayed to Satan. Guards again searched her house. This time they found a small pot with a hard, dry, black substance in it. But there was no sign of the "Witch-fork" that Ann claimed she flew with. Questioned and tortured a second time, Ann named several other Witches. At this point, the court summoned Georg and asked him about his wife's habits. Georg said that Ann was a good, hard-working woman and a devout Christian. She took Communion every other week and frequently spent half the day in church. But he did admit that for seven years his wife had been very melancholy. (How could she not be? Again and again in those years, she was accused of Witchcraft. Again and again she saw Witches burned, and knew that only the greatest of luck kept her from that very same fate.) Ann, Georg said, handled her fears like a good Christian: she prayed and fasted and wept until she could wash her hands in her tears. For seven years she avoided all weddings and festivities, hoping that God would see her fervor and spare her. The court thanked him for his testimony, and dismissed him. Meanwhile, they decided that Ann's confession wasn't sincere: she hadn't admitted to any murders, nor had she implicated "enough" of her fellow Witches. She was tortured again until she accused her maid and admitted that she had murdered one of her own children with a magick salve. Guards search her home again, looking for the deadly ointment, but all they found was an empty pot. Seeing nothing before her except slow torture and painful death, Ann attempted to commit suicide. She mixed her own urine and feces in a bowl and ate it, hoping it would poison her. All it did was make her violently ill. The court, however, believed that Ann must be trying to hide information. Suicide was of the Devil, they said. The only reason Satan would encourage a Witch to kill herself was to prevent her from giving a full confession. And so Ann was tortured a fourth time, most severely. She was hoisted in the strappado and her legs were crushed in iron boots. The broken woman confessed further. She had killed a peasant. She brought hail to destroy the crops. She knew many Witches. She had seen the Devil, and he had the feet of a goose. Finally, the court was satisfied and they sent two priests to hear Ann's final confession before execution. And here, Ann made a terrible error. She was a good Catholic, you see, and couldn't bring herself to lie to her confessor. So when the priest urged her to repent of her Witchcraft, Ann told him that she was innocent. She had only confessed to avoid torture, she told the priest, and she asked him to absolve her for the sin of lying to the court. Instead, the priest reported her words to the judges. Enraged, the court subjected Ann to a fifth bout of torture, more terrible than any of the others. Ann told them everything they wished to hear and affirmed that her earlier confession had indeed been true. But as they let her down from the strappado for the final time, the Witch made one last request, a plea that struck her judges as odd enough to note in their records. Please, she begged them, do not burn any of the people I named. Ann said she no longer cared if she lived or died; she only prayed God that she would be the last person burned in the land. On September 20, 1629, Ann Kaserin was beheaded and her lifeless body burned at the stake." So please explain to me how it is in any way ethical for neo-pagans to claim that this poor woman and thousands like her were lying when they professed to be Christian! This is horrific to continue to lie about the victims of the witch-hunts. Neo-pagans who spread this false propaganda should be ashamed of themselves.
I sure do enjoy reading your posts, they're informative, thoughtful, and well researched. Thank you.
("Every fetus that DOESN'T go on welfare in 18 years because he/she was aborted yesterday... brings a smile to my face today" ~ GrandIsland - LibertyPost)
The only time I frequent that station is around Christmas and Easter. It is the only station that still faithfully runs the classics of King of kings, The Greatest Story Ever Told and a few others. The dinosaur Networks used to play those great movies, and you can hardly find them on Turner Classic anymore.
A recovering Wiccaholic? Sorry, that just struck me as funny. ;o)
Sorry, not interested in reading it. The topic was raise by Stone trying to fuck with me. So as far as I'm concerned there is nothing about the topic to discuss.
So as far as I'm concerned there is nothing about the topic to discuss. Orthodoxo. You have to remember Ferret is a hypocrite. It claims it is against abortion. Yet it voted for the Black Genocidal maniac in the White House. When ever the rat boy is getting beat up in debate. He likes to whine and talk about baiting. Or he will just run away and sware he is never coming here again. He has done that a dozen times or so.
heh- well, it is true. :) Yes. It is my experience that anything that does not take us toward the light of Jesus is a bad thing that we have to overcome. Drugs, alcoholism, anger, religion, ego, depression, rage..... I could go on. I put religion up there, including WICCA AND Catholicity . Have a fun day. :) Bye.
You telling me I am not against abortion does not make that so. You are insane, Stone. You try to define other people's positions for them to posture yourself and swear that makes you a winner in a debate on the topic. I don't worry about your insanity; I know where I stand on that and many other issues. What games you play don't amount to beans. If you were formidable in debate, or were right, I would leave. But you are not. You are a poor writer, you are intellectually lazy and have an epically short attention span. All you have is the make believe to work with, which is why you pretend I am for abortion. That makes you pathetic, and pitiable.
Another thing which shows what a hypocrite you are is how you will delete another's post for a colorful personal attack on you, but of course you feel you are better than those you censor and do the same sort of game. You have also started several threads on Freedom 4UM.com trying to blast me and all you managed to do was get banned, and make me more popular there turning former adversaries into comrades. Why should I go? You have only managed to hurt your own standing around the Internet by trying to hurt me with attack threads elsewhere.
#95. To: buckeroo (#91)
#96. To: diva betsy ross (#95)
(Edited)
It is all about magic and spells.
#97. To: redleghunter (#88)
#98. To: diva betsy ross (#94)
#99. To: buckeroo (#96)
#100. To: buckeroo (#96)
"What is the difference between Wicca "magic and spells" vs. Christian "beads/crosses&baptism and prayers"?"
#101. To: Ferret Mike (#98)
#102. To: Ferret Mike, buckeroo (#100)
(Edited)
#103. To: diva betsy ross (#101)
#104. To: diva betsy ross, Ferret Mike (#99)
#105. To: diva betsy ross (#102)
"But prayers and white magic are really not at all the same."
#106. To: buckeroo (#104)
(Edited)
#107. To: Ferret Mike (#106)
#108. To: Ferret Mike (#103)
#109. To: buckeroo (#104)
#110. To: buckeroo (#92)
Interesting that you would bring that up. Is there, I suspect, a trace element of Eastern Orthodox Christianity in your monicker?
#111. To: diva betsy ross (#109)
#112. To: buckeroo (#111)
#113. To: buckeroo (#107)
"Do you use chicken blood and voodoo dolls with pins? If so, I want you to take a list of people that I plan for the next time you meet at your "alter,""
#114. To: Ferret Mike (#97)
I used the Firefox adblock function to block that. Not interested in reading fiction, dude.
#115. To: Ferret Mike (#113)
...I don't live to hate or want bad for others...
#116. To: Orthodoxa (#115)
Of course not, other than to spread lies about Christianity allegedly slaughtering millions of your co-religionists when that is factually untrue.
#117. To: mininggold, Ferret Mike (#116)
We have quite a few professed Christians on this site who lie and spread tales about others constantly, and even stalk some posters around the internet. Is that considered good Christian behaviors?
#118. To: Orthodoxa, ferret mike (#117)
#119. To: Orthodoxa (#117)
#120. To: redleghunter (#114)
"If you blocked it, then you did not review it, which means you cannot form an opinion on it."
#121. To: Ferret Mike (#119)
#122. To: redleghunter! Mike Ferret (#86)
TBN is peddling a lot of "stuff" on their network. Hard to find the Gospel preached on that station.
#123. To: A K A Stone (#121)
#124. To: A K A Stone (#121)
(Edited)
You're "religion" is made up. That is why you can't explain your belief in the toad or the goddess or whatever it is you have your "faith" in.
#125. To: Ferret Mike (#119)
#126. To: Orthodoxa (#125)
But for an additional comment I will explain further why I view it as very hateful to characterise the victims of the witch-hunts of European antiqity as pagans.
#127. To: GarySpFC (#122)
TBN is peddling a lot of "stuff" on their network. Hard to find the Gospel preached on that station. I agree. I don't waste my time watching it. I can't even remember the last time I took a glance at it to see what was on.
#128. To: diva betsy ross (#94)
I took a beautiful friend to church with me- JUST today- who is recovering from WICCA.
#129. To: Orthodoxa (#125)
#130. To: Ferret Mike, Orthodoxo (#129)
Sorry, not interested in reading it. The topic was raise by Stone trying to fuck with me.
#131. To: We The People (#128)
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#132. To: A K A Stone (#130)
#133. To: A K A Stone (#130)
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