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Title: Democratic Women Boycott House Contraception Hearing After Republicans Prevent Women From Testifying
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URL Source: http://thinkprogress.org/health/201 ... venting-women-from-testifying/
Published: Feb 16, 2012
Author: Igor Volsky
Post Date: 2012-02-16 15:42:35 by Ferret Mike
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Views: 38084
Comments: 90
This morning, Democrats tore into House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) for preventing women from testifying before a hearing examining the Obama administration’s new regulation requiring employers and insurers to provide contraception coverage to their employees. Republicans oppose the administration’s rule and have sponsored legislation that would allow employers to limit the availability of birth control to women. Ranking committee member Elijah Cummings (D-MD) had asked Issa to include a female witness at the hearing, but the Chairman refused, arguing that “As the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception but instead about the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience, he believes that Ms. Fluke is not an appropriate witness.” And so Cummings, along with the Democratic women on the panel, took their request to the hearing room, demanding that Issa consider the testimony of a female college student. But the California congressman insisted that the hearing should focus on the rules’ alleged infringement on “religious liberty,” not contraception coverage, and denied the request. Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) walked out of the hearing in protest of his decision, citing frustration over the fact that the first panel of witnesses consisted only of male religious leaders against the rule. Holmes Norton said she will not return, calling Issa’s chairmanship an “autocratic regime.” Watch a compilation of the heated exchange: ky on Feb 16, 2012 at 10:52 am This morning, Democrats tore into House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) for preventing women from testifying before a hearing examining the Obama administration’s new regulation requiring employers and insurers to provide contraception coverage to their employees. Republicans oppose the administration’s rule and have sponsored legislation that would allow employers to limit the availability of birth control to women. Ranking committee member Elijah Cummings (D-MD) had asked Issa to include a female witness at the hearing, but the Chairman refused, arguing that “As the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception but instead about the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience, he believes that Ms. Fluke is not an appropriate witness.” And so Cummings, along with the Democratic women on the panel, took their request to the hearing room, demanding that Issa consider the testimony of a female college student. But the California congressman insisted that the hearing should focus on the rules’ alleged infringement on “religious liberty,” not contraception coverage, and denied the request. Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) walked out of the hearing in protest of his decision, citing frustration over the fact that the first panel of witnesses consisted only of male religious leaders against the rule. Holmes Norton said she will not return, calling Issa’s chairmanship an “autocratic regime.” Watch a compilation of the heated exchange: A picture of the witness table: Issa also dismissed the Democrats’ woman witness as a “college student’ who does not “have the appropriate credentials” to testify before his committee.
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#25. To: lucysmom (#22)
You and ming always coincidentally come on the same time. There are many of us who think you are the same person. All of your beliefs are the same too.
Ok it is Ferrets. But you are still commenting on it and saying it is off topic. When what I quoted is in the actual article and relevant.
That is a better answer then mine. But they don't want the Lucy's of the world to keep their legs closed. They want the Catholic church to buy them rubbers. I wonder if the Catholic church is supposed to buy condoms for faggots too.
Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Not worth two dead flies...
Apparently it doesn't work out for a significant number of men who have pledged their lives to God and made a vow to remain celibate, either.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
The woman gets her tubes tied.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
I doubt Lucysmom has a cow. And actually we vary quite a bit in our beliefs.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I guess Hondo speaks from experience.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
That is also condemned by the Catholic church. "Who is he who cannot warn that no woman may take a potion so that she is unable to conceive or condemns in herself the nature which God willed to be fecund? As often as she could have conceived or given birth, of that many homicides she will be held guilty, and, unless she undergoes suitable penance, she will be damned by eternal death in hell. If a woman does not wish to have children, let her enter into a religious agreement with her husband; for chastity is the sole sterility of a Christian woman" Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Only in the figurative sense. And actually we vary quite a bit in our beliefs. If we don't insult eachother how is Stone to know when we disagree?
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
If it's life threatening for her to become pregnant, the above doesn't apply. It's more of a sin for her to commit suicide. Your understanding of Catholic doctrine is about equal to Orly Taitz's understanding of the law. Are you related?
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
Are you sure about that? Today it is widely recognized that there can be morally compelling reasons to avoid pregnancies and to avoid conception. One way, of course, to avoid pregnancy is to practice contraception by using various forms of contraceptives. Each of these forms of contraception, however, has its "failure" rate and its share of unpleasant side-effects.1 In some instances, therefore, particularly when the mother's health may be seriously jeopardized by another pregnancy or when the child-to-be may be seriously crippled by a genetically or chromosomally induced disease, sterilization may seem to be the most efficient and medically sound way for exercising parental and familial responsibilities. The authentic teaching of the Church, as is well known, holds that both contraception and "direct," that is, contraceptive, sterilization, are inherently wrong and that therefore no one may rightly practice contraception or undergo direct sterilization even to carry out parental and familial obligations. Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
I doubt I could ever keep up with the uber conservatives here.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Didn't they used to prescibe aspirin to help them do just exactly that????? It's a very cheap and good solution to the problem of unwanted pregnancies....
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
Ain't that the truth!!!! The world would be a much better place with morals and family values, that's why Leftards don't want people to act civilized.....
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
Somewhere in the neighborhood of 40% or so of women who have abortion procedures performed, have at least "2" or more of them done during their lifetime..... Sounds like some of them suffer from sunburned feet syndrome, along with lacking cognitive thought process!!!
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
So it that your justification for not wanting to do the right thng????
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
I am so sick and tired of these political grandstanding assholes. First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. What do you suppose "no law" means??? It means NO FUCKING LAW, whatsoever, PERIOD! End of discussion. Thomas Jefferson said that freedom requires eternal vigilance. Why do you suppose that he said that? He said it because he knew that the tyrants would never stop trying to control us. He was right.
It's a very cheap and good solution to the problem of unwanted pregnancies.... It was a joke, son. Aspirin has always been OTC. The problem is that husbands started seeking love elsewhere and bringing home nasty little infectious calling cards to the marriage, when the wives squeezed their legs together too many times. After all what's the point of having sex after the last planned for child is born, so some women considered their legs to be permanently squeezed. Then came the era of many Catholic women having hysterectomies on the advice of their doctors to remove 'unhealthy sexual organs' causing pain or other problems, but in most cases it was really to please hubby and keep him away from the whorehouses.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
End of discussion. Does "NO FUCKING LAW" mean likewise the Catholic church may not use government to impose its moral code on the American people as a whole?
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
It isn't worth the effort.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
It must mean that it shouldn't allow anymore of those 'Caesar' moments. So instead we need to tax it as the corporate entity that it really is. It should not be allowed to have it both ways.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Pegler's quite pompous. I doubt he will hold court this morning other than issuing edicts
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
When the Pharisees confronted Jesus for healing a man on the sabbath, "...he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath". The Catholic church has taken positions so extreme in the matter of sex that even its individual priests can't live up to them. The result is women and children deeply hurt while the holy church covered up its sin and lied to avoid looking bad, oe using its treasure to compensate its victims. Doing the right thing - what a laugh! The Church would rather see a woman dead than using contraception. Not only is a woman having an abortion guilty of murder, but also a woman who prevents conception is guilty of the murder of a baby never conceived according to the church. He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant--not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Taxing the church would save it from hypocrisy at least in that.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
LOL! You can't even read the header to see who posted this. No wonder you can't hear people's positions on issues. I am for contraceptive use precisely because abortion is not a good way to deal with pregnancy. Women and men need to use the appropriate means to prevent pregnancy if they do not wish to have kids at a specific period in their lives or ever. If a woman is pregnant and that pregnancy does not endanger her life, she should go to term and either keep the child, or give it up for adoption. If she was raped, she should have the right to abort if it endangers her mental health to deal with the child that would come from this act of extreme violence commited against her. Also, it is just as appropriate for the man to have a vasectomy as it is for her to have her tubes tied if no children are desired. That is not how you view things, but stop being an asshole and telling me what my position on abortion is. I view you as an extremist of the variety that keeps resolution of this issue impossible because you don't know how to work out a balanced approach to the issue that arrives at a resolution everyone can live with. I also have seen nothing in your position that takes the woman's perspective into consideration, just a fervent desire for you to legislate things so the woman has no say in the matter, and must allow males complete control of their rights and future. As for bringing my position of the right for all to marry or have the sort of sexual relationship they wish with consenting adults into the discussion on this issue; that is just indicative of how malicious and hatefully you are in desiring to control everyone around you with your extremist, intolerant and hateful attitudes. You need to grow up and realize people have rights, and they are not the only ones who need to compromise in crafting solutions to social issues; you must too.
I agree. Many religious entities can't bring themselves to stay out of the political arena, which is fine; as long as they pay taxes and thus pay their way in a society they want to have a political say in. I agree with you whole heartedly.
I know that I was being facetious...... It was old joke that holding an aspirin between your knees would stop you from getting pregnant..... I think I'm probably being facetious more than you realize.....
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
I wasn't referring to the church, I was referring to using the excuse of being married as to why some women have sex when they shouldn't.... like your friend.. If those people who attend the Catholic church want to practice that then all I can say is they've made their bed and they can sleep in it.... As far as I'm concerned they should use some common sense before blindly following what others tell them they should be doing.... But then again not all people have common sense.... hence the number of abortions performed in this country.....
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
If Catholic men and women choose to follow the dictates of an old man living in the Vatican, that's their business. What I object to is the Catholic church entering politics, abusing their tax free status, and trying to force their convoluted morality on the rest of us.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
The Catholic church has no problem with you choosing the highway to hell, have at it! Your representation of the Catholic position is BS.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
My representation of the Catholic position is quoted from Catholics.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden don't really qualify as Catholics, IMO. Sure there are a few rotten Catholics around, not surprised that you value their opinions.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
Why are you afraid of the Catholic Church????? (Or any church for that matter).... What can they really do to harm you???? Convince people to "HAVE" morals and family values!!!!! You should be way more afraid of the people you vote for, they're the dangerous ones..... They're proving to be what is destroying this country not the church.... They have no morals or family values and they are forceably pushing their Bullchit immorality agenda onto the people of this country, whether they like it or not!!!! Freedom isn't free there is always a price to be paid for it, whether you like it or not.....
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
She thinks killing babies is a virtue. It is the highest honor for a libtard.
www.rushlimbaugh.com/dail...ongresswoman_gwendolynne_ moore_pregnancy_is_a_disease
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
You prefer the tortured slow death of exposure to the elements and starvation for little children.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Only as long as you don't copy the examples they set. Usually their vows of poverty, chastity and morality are the first to go. Most of the time they are only fit for showing an example of how to be a hypocrite. But I can see why conservatives love to brag that they are good church going folk, as it's just another in a long line of scams they indulge in.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
You should be way more afraid of the people you vote for, they're the dangerous ones..... They're proving to be what is destroying this country not the church.... They have no morals or family values and they are forceably pushing their Bullchit immorality agenda onto the people of this country, whether they like it or not!!!! I'd say the Catholic church and politicians are on about the same moral footing. As for pushing, they want to micro-manage your sex life while holding the threat of eternal damnation over your head for disobedience. (If priests really believed that stuff do you think they'd engage in the criminal sexual behavior that has become synonymous with the Catholic church? Do you think the church hierarchy, up to and including the pope, would cover up the crimes committed and throw the victims under the proverbial bus?) The Catholic treats family values and morality as if they are pap for the masses, not an eternal truth. Politicians ain't got nothing on the Catholic church when it comes to "forceably pushing their Bullchit immorality agenda onto the people of this country, whether they like it or not!!!!".
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestWrong again. It's not my article is it.
#26. To: All (#25)
#27. To: hondo68 (#24)
Advise them to keep their legs together.
#28. To: hondo68 (#24)
Advise them to keep their legs together.
#29. To: lucysmom (#28)
Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?
#30. To: Fred Mertz (#29)
Not worth two dead flies...
#31. To: lucysmom (#28)
how does that work out in a marriage?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#32. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#25)
You and ming always coincidentally come on the same time. There are many of us who think you are the same person. All of your beliefs are the same too.
#33. To: lucysmom (#28)
Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?
#34. To: hondo68 (#31)
The woman gets her tubes tied.
#35. To: mininggold (#32)
I doubt Lucysmom has a cow.
#36. To: lucysmom, *Ron Paul for President* (#34)
(Edited)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#37. To: hondo68 (#36)
If it's life threatening for her to become pregnant, the above doesn't apply. It's more of a sin for her to commit suicide.
#38. To: lucysmom (#35)
If we don't insult eachother how is Stone to know when we disagree?
#39. To: hondo68 (#24)
Advise them to keep their legs together.
#40. To: A K A Stone (#27)
I wonder if the Catholic church is supposed to buy condoms for faggots too.
#41. To: A K A Stone (#27)
But they don't want the Lucy's of the world to keep their legs closed.
#42. To: A K A Stone, all (#27)
But they don't want the Lucy's of the world to keep their legs closed.
#43. To: lucysmom (#28)
Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?
#44. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate
#45. To: CZ82 (#39)
(Edited)
Didn't they used to prescibe aspirin to help them do just exactly that?????
#46. To: jwpegler (#44)
It means NO FUCKING LAW, whatsoever, PERIOD!
#47. To: mininggold (#38)
I doubt I could ever keep up with the uber conservatives here.
#48. To: lucysmom (#46)
Does "NO FUCKING LAW" mean likewise the Catholic church may not use government to impose its moral code on the American people as a whole?
#49. To: lucysmom (#46)
Does "NO FUCKING LAW" mean likewise the Catholic church may not use government to impose its moral code on the American people as a whole?
#50. To: CZ82 (#43)
So it that your justification for not wanting to do the right thng????
#51. To: mininggold (#48)
So instead we need to tax it as the corporate entity that it really is. It should not be allowed to have it both ways.
#52. To: A K A Stone (#19)
"Did you even read your own article?"
#53. To: lucysmom (#51)
"Taxing the church would save it from hypocrisy at least in that."
#54. To: mininggold (#45)
It was a joke, son. Aspirin has always been OTC.
#55. To: lucysmom (#50)
Doing the right thing - what a laugh! The Church would rather see a woman dead than using contraception. Not only is a woman having an abortion guilty of murder, but also a woman who prevents conception is guilty of the murder of a baby never conceived according to the church.
#56. To: CZ82 (#55)
If those people who attend the Catholic church want to practice that then all I can say is they've made their bed and they can sleep in it.... As far as I'm concerned they should use some common sense before blindly following what others tell them they should be doing....
#57. To: lucysmom, CZ82 (#56)
Catholic church .... trying to force their convoluted morality on the rest of us
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#58. To: hondo68 (#57)
Your representation of the Catholic position is BS.
#59. To: lucysmom, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#58)
quoted from Catholics.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#60. To: lucysmom (#56)
What I object to is the Catholic church entering politics, abusing their tax free status, and trying to force their convoluted morality on the rest of us.
#61. To: CZ82 (#60)
trying to force their convoluted morality on the rest of us.
#62. To: A K A Stone (#61)
She thinks killing babies is a virtue. It is the highest honor for a libtard.
#63. To: A K A Stone (#61)
She thinks killing babies is a virtue.
#64. To: CZ82 (#60)
Why are you afraid of the Catholic Church????? (Or any church for that matter).... What can they really do to harm you???? Convince people to "HAVE" morals and family values!!!!!
#65. To: CZ82 (#60)
Why are you afraid of the Catholic Church????? (Or any church for that matter).... What can they really do to harm you???? Convince people to "HAVE" morals and family values!!!!!
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