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Title: Democratic Women Boycott House Contraception Hearing After Republicans Prevent Women From Testifying
Source: http://thinkprogress.org
URL Source: http://thinkprogress.org/health/201 ... venting-women-from-testifying/
Published: Feb 16, 2012
Author: Igor Volsky
Post Date: 2012-02-16 15:42:35 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 38024
Comments: 90

This morning, Democrats tore into House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) for preventing women from testifying before a hearing examining the Obama administration’s new regulation requiring employers and insurers to provide contraception coverage to their employees. Republicans oppose the administration’s rule and have sponsored legislation that would allow employers to limit the availability of birth control to women.

Ranking committee member Elijah Cummings (D-MD) had asked Issa to include a female witness at the hearing, but the Chairman refused, arguing that “As the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception but instead about the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience, he believes that Ms. Fluke is not an appropriate witness.”

And so Cummings, along with the Democratic women on the panel, took their request to the hearing room, demanding that Issa consider the testimony of a female college student. But the California congressman insisted that the hearing should focus on the rules’ alleged infringement on “religious liberty,” not contraception coverage, and denied the request. Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) walked out of the hearing in protest of his decision, citing frustration over the fact that the first panel of witnesses consisted only of male religious leaders against the rule. Holmes Norton said she will not return, calling Issa’s chairmanship an “autocratic regime.”

Watch a compilation of the heated exchange:

ky on Feb 16, 2012 at 10:52 am

This morning, Democrats tore into House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) for preventing women from testifying before a hearing examining the Obama administration’s new regulation requiring employers and insurers to provide contraception coverage to their employees. Republicans oppose the administration’s rule and have sponsored legislation that would allow employers to limit the availability of birth control to women.

Ranking committee member Elijah Cummings (D-MD) had asked Issa to include a female witness at the hearing, but the Chairman refused, arguing that “As the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception but instead about the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience, he believes that Ms. Fluke is not an appropriate witness.”

And so Cummings, along with the Democratic women on the panel, took their request to the hearing room, demanding that Issa consider the testimony of a female college student. But the California congressman insisted that the hearing should focus on the rules’ alleged infringement on “religious liberty,” not contraception coverage, and denied the request. Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) walked out of the hearing in protest of his decision, citing frustration over the fact that the first panel of witnesses consisted only of male religious leaders against the rule. Holmes Norton said she will not return, calling Issa’s chairmanship an “autocratic regime.”

Watch a compilation of the heated exchange:

A picture of the witness table:

Issa also dismissed the Democrats’ woman witness as a “college student’ who does not “have the appropriate credentials” to testify before his committee. (1 image)

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#7. To: lucysmom (#6)

Obama favors Catholics funding abortions.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#5)

The ferret is a pro abort pervert lover.

I guess that makes you an advocate of exposing babies to the elements. If the baby dies, well, hey - it was God's will; or at least someone else's fault.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   21:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#7)

Obama favors Catholics funding abortions.

Off topic - read the thread title.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   21:26:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#8)

I guess that makes you an advocate of exposing babies to the elements. If the baby dies, well, hey - it was God's will; or at least someone else's fault.

No I am in favor of wrapping a baby in a warm blanket. You are for Obama who is for killing babies adults and foreigners. Why do you a person who is supposed to be good support evil people?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lucysmom (#9)

Obama favors Catholics funding abortions.

Off topic - read the thread title.

the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience,

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#6)

We're talking about contraception here, not abortion.

There's no substantive health benefits to not having babies. Old maids don't live longer than mothers.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-16   21:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#10)

No I am in favor of wrapping a baby in a warm blanket.

You might be in favor yet you would do nothing to provide the same to a baby in need. To do so would brand the parents as socialists.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-16   21:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mininggold (#13)

You might be in favor yet you would do nothing to provide the same to a baby in need. To do so would brand the parents as socialists.

I've wrapped plenty of babies in warm blankets. Your words have no basis in truth or fact. I think it is strange that you think wrapping a baby up in a warm blanket is considered socialist by anyone. Did anyone ever run over your head with a truck? Just curious.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#10)

No I am in favor of wrapping a baby in a warm blanket.

As long as the babies family can afford the blanket - otherwise you'd happily let the baby and his parents freeze to death.

(still off topic, BTW)

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   21:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#11)

the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience,

I guess you need a reminder:

Democratic Women Boycott House Contraception Hearing After Republicans Prevent Women From Testifying

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   21:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lucysmom (#15)

As long as the babies family can afford the blanket - otherwise you'd happily let the baby and his parents freeze to death.

You would take food out of my kids mouth to force me to buy a blanket that the person who had the kid should pay for. That is ridiculous of you. Why do I have to go out with food because some woman is having a kid?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: hondo68 (#12)

There's no substantive health benefits to not having babies.

For some women, like my friend with a heart defect, or another with diabetes, pregnancy is life threatening.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   21:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#16)

the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience,

I guess you need a reminder:

Did you even read your own article? "the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience," is from your own article. The article is more then the title.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Why do I have to go out with food because some woman is having a kid?

If you are earning that little, you are not paying taxes.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   21:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lucysmom (#18)

For some women, like my friend with a heart defect, or another with diabetes, pregnancy is life threatening.

For some people paying higher taxes to pay for someone else's problems can be fatal. Some people have no money and they can't afford to pay for your friends problems. They live paycheck to paycheck and need food for their daughter. It is evil to ask someone not to feed their kid and pay for your friend instead.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#19)

Did you even read your own article?

Wrong again. It's not my article is it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   21:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom (#20)

Why do I have to go out with food because some woman is having a kid?

If you are earning that little, you are not paying taxes.

Why do you want people to go without food and not feed their kids? People need to take care of their kids. You should have taught Lucy better and she wouldn't have got knocked up. Then she wouldn't need my friends kids lunch money.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:47:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#18)

For some women, like my friend with a heart defect, or another with diabetes, pregnancy is life threatening.

Advise them to keep their legs together.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-16   21:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#22)

Wrong again. It's not my article is it.

You and ming always coincidentally come on the same time. There are many of us who think you are the same person. All of your beliefs are the same too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: All (#25)

Ok it is Ferrets. But you are still commenting on it and saying it is off topic. When what I quoted is in the actual article and relevant.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: hondo68 (#24)

Advise them to keep their legs together.

That is a better answer then mine. But they don't want the Lucy's of the world to keep their legs closed. They want the Catholic church to buy them rubbers. I wonder if the Catholic church is supposed to buy condoms for faggots too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   21:50:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: hondo68 (#24)

Advise them to keep their legs together.

Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   22:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#28)

Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?

Not worth two dead flies...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-16   22:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

Not worth two dead flies...

Apparently it doesn't work out for a significant number of men who have pledged their lives to God and made a vow to remain celibate, either.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   23:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lucysmom (#28)

how does that work out in a marriage?

The woman gets her tubes tied.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-16   23:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#25)

You and ming always coincidentally come on the same time. There are many of us who think you are the same person. All of your beliefs are the same too.

I doubt Lucysmom has a cow. And actually we vary quite a bit in our beliefs.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-17   0:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lucysmom (#28)

Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?

I guess Hondo speaks from experience.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-17   0:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: hondo68 (#31)

The woman gets her tubes tied.

That is also condemned by the Catholic church.

"Who is he who cannot warn that no woman may take a potion so that she is unable to conceive or condemns in herself the nature which God willed to be fecund? As often as she could have conceived or given birth, of that many homicides she will be held guilty, and, unless she undergoes suitable penance, she will be damned by eternal death in hell. If a woman does not wish to have children, let her enter into a religious agreement with her husband; for chastity is the sole sterility of a Christian woman"

www.catholic.com/tracts/c...ception-and-sterilization

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-17   1:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mininggold (#32)

I doubt Lucysmom has a cow.

Only in the figurative sense.

And actually we vary quite a bit in our beliefs.

If we don't insult eachother how is Stone to know when we disagree?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-17   1:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: lucysmom, *Ron Paul for President* (#34) (Edited)

If it's life threatening for her to become pregnant, the above doesn't apply. It's more of a sin for her to commit suicide.

Your understanding of Catholic doctrine is about equal to Orly Taitz's understanding of the law. Are you related?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-17   1:17:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: hondo68 (#36)

If it's life threatening for her to become pregnant, the above doesn't apply. It's more of a sin for her to commit suicide.

Are you sure about that?

Today it is widely recognized that there can be morally compelling reasons to avoid pregnancies and to avoid conception. One way, of course, to avoid pregnancy is to practice contraception by using various forms of contraceptives. Each of these forms of contraception, however, has its "failure" rate and its share of unpleasant side-effects.1 In some instances, therefore, particularly when the mother's health may be seriously jeopardized by another pregnancy or when the child-to-be may be seriously crippled by a genetically or chromosomally induced disease, sterilization may seem to be the most efficient and medically sound way for exercising parental and familial responsibilities.

The authentic teaching of the Church, as is well known, holds that both contraception and "direct," that is, contraceptive, sterilization, are inherently wrong and that therefore no one may rightly practice contraception or undergo direct sterilization even to carry out parental and familial obligations.

www.catholicculture.org/c...rary/view.cfm?recnum=5234

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-17   1:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: lucysmom (#35)

If we don't insult eachother how is Stone to know when we disagree?

I doubt I could ever keep up with the uber conservatives here.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-17   2:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: hondo68 (#24)

Advise them to keep their legs together.

Didn't they used to prescibe aspirin to help them do just exactly that?????

It's a very cheap and good solution to the problem of unwanted pregnancies....

There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-17   6:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#27)

I wonder if the Catholic church is supposed to buy condoms for faggots too.

There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-17   6:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#27)

But they don't want the Lucy's of the world to keep their legs closed.

Ain't that the truth!!!!

The world would be a much better place with morals and family values, that's why Leftards don't want people to act civilized.....

There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-17   6:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone, all (#27)

But they don't want the Lucy's of the world to keep their legs closed.

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 40% or so of women who have abortion procedures performed, have at least "2" or more of them done during their lifetime.....

Sounds like some of them suffer from sunburned feet syndrome, along with lacking cognitive thought process!!!

There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-17   7:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: lucysmom (#28)

Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?

So it that your justification for not wanting to do the right thng????

There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-17   7:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

I am so sick and tired of these political grandstanding assholes.

First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

What do you suppose "no law" means???

It means NO FUCKING LAW, whatsoever, PERIOD!

End of discussion.

Thomas Jefferson said that freedom requires eternal vigilance.

Why do you suppose that he said that?

He said it because he knew that the tyrants would never stop trying to control us.

He was right.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-02-17   9:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: CZ82 (#39) (Edited)

Didn't they used to prescibe aspirin to help them do just exactly that?????

It's a very cheap and good solution to the problem of unwanted pregnancies....

It was a joke, son. Aspirin has always been OTC.

The problem is that husbands started seeking love elsewhere and bringing home nasty little infectious calling cards to the marriage, when the wives squeezed their legs together too many times.

After all what's the point of having sex after the last planned for child is born, so some women considered their legs to be permanently squeezed.

Then came the era of many Catholic women having hysterectomies on the advice of their doctors to remove 'unhealthy sexual organs' causing pain or other problems, but in most cases it was really to please hubby and keep him away from the whorehouses.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-17   11:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: jwpegler (#44)

It means NO FUCKING LAW, whatsoever, PERIOD!

End of discussion.

Does "NO FUCKING LAW" mean likewise the Catholic church may not use government to impose its moral code on the American people as a whole?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-17   11:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mininggold (#38)

I doubt I could ever keep up with the uber conservatives here.

It isn't worth the effort.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-17   11:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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