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Title: Democratic Women Boycott House Contraception Hearing After Republicans Prevent Women From Testifying
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URL Source: http://thinkprogress.org/health/201 ... venting-women-from-testifying/
Published: Feb 16, 2012
Author: Igor Volsky
Post Date: 2012-02-16 15:42:35 by Ferret Mike
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Views: 38007
Comments: 90
This morning, Democrats tore into House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) for preventing women from testifying before a hearing examining the Obama administration’s new regulation requiring employers and insurers to provide contraception coverage to their employees. Republicans oppose the administration’s rule and have sponsored legislation that would allow employers to limit the availability of birth control to women. Ranking committee member Elijah Cummings (D-MD) had asked Issa to include a female witness at the hearing, but the Chairman refused, arguing that “As the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception but instead about the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience, he believes that Ms. Fluke is not an appropriate witness.” And so Cummings, along with the Democratic women on the panel, took their request to the hearing room, demanding that Issa consider the testimony of a female college student. But the California congressman insisted that the hearing should focus on the rules’ alleged infringement on “religious liberty,” not contraception coverage, and denied the request. Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) walked out of the hearing in protest of his decision, citing frustration over the fact that the first panel of witnesses consisted only of male religious leaders against the rule. Holmes Norton said she will not return, calling Issa’s chairmanship an “autocratic regime.” Watch a compilation of the heated exchange: ky on Feb 16, 2012 at 10:52 am This morning, Democrats tore into House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) for preventing women from testifying before a hearing examining the Obama administration’s new regulation requiring employers and insurers to provide contraception coverage to their employees. Republicans oppose the administration’s rule and have sponsored legislation that would allow employers to limit the availability of birth control to women. Ranking committee member Elijah Cummings (D-MD) had asked Issa to include a female witness at the hearing, but the Chairman refused, arguing that “As the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception but instead about the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience, he believes that Ms. Fluke is not an appropriate witness.” And so Cummings, along with the Democratic women on the panel, took their request to the hearing room, demanding that Issa consider the testimony of a female college student. But the California congressman insisted that the hearing should focus on the rules’ alleged infringement on “religious liberty,” not contraception coverage, and denied the request. Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) walked out of the hearing in protest of his decision, citing frustration over the fact that the first panel of witnesses consisted only of male religious leaders against the rule. Holmes Norton said she will not return, calling Issa’s chairmanship an “autocratic regime.” Watch a compilation of the heated exchange: A picture of the witness table: Issa also dismissed the Democrats’ woman witness as a “college student’ who does not “have the appropriate credentials” to testify before his committee.
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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Does freedom of religion mean the Church has the right to dictate to women who are not Catholic regarding their health care choices?
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
If they want to work for the Catholics yes. Can the government force muslims to sell bacon at their mosques?
The Catholics are particularly inconsiderate about how they do the health care business. They should respect the reproductive rights of women and offer contraceptives to those wanting them if they are providing health care for the community at large. Contraceptives give coupes and women the control of when and how many children they have. And good family planning reduces abortion as four out of ten women who have unwanted pregnancies get abortions to end the pregnancy. Some me like women in general to lack reproductive control as this translates to more control of women in general. It can keep them from a career and out of the job market, and gives men more leverage over them in other aspects of life. They did allow me to cover the crucifix on the wall of my hospital room when I was a patient at Sacred Heart hospital in Eugene after I nearly dided in a fall doing activism. They were not happy I did that, but they could not argue about that point of order. I have never been happy with Sacred Wallet anyway, and they remembered me from the protest concerning the third parking garage they built near the Eugene Oregon hospital campus. Peace health still has that property, but they have replaced the hospital with a larger one in next door Springfield Oregon which was more agreeable to their zoning and size requirements than Eugene was.
Killing babies is "preventative health care"? I don't think so! What could be more unhealthy than dead?
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
What could be more unhealthy than dead? The ferret is a pro abort pervert lover.
We're talking about contraception here, not abortion.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Obama favors Catholics funding abortions.
I guess that makes you an advocate of exposing babies to the elements. If the baby dies, well, hey - it was God's will; or at least someone else's fault.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Off topic - read the thread title.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
No I am in favor of wrapping a baby in a warm blanket. You are for Obama who is for killing babies adults and foreigners. Why do you a person who is supposed to be good support evil people?
Off topic - read the thread title. the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience,
There's no substantive health benefits to not having babies. Old maids don't live longer than mothers.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
You might be in favor yet you would do nothing to provide the same to a baby in need. To do so would brand the parents as socialists.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I've wrapped plenty of babies in warm blankets. Your words have no basis in truth or fact. I think it is strange that you think wrapping a baby up in a warm blanket is considered socialist by anyone. Did anyone ever run over your head with a truck? Just curious.
As long as the babies family can afford the blanket - otherwise you'd happily let the baby and his parents freeze to death. (still off topic, BTW)
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
I guess you need a reminder: Democratic Women Boycott House Contraception Hearing After Republicans Prevent Women From Testifying
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
You would take food out of my kids mouth to force me to buy a blanket that the person who had the kid should pay for. That is ridiculous of you. Why do I have to go out with food because some woman is having a kid?
For some women, like my friend with a heart defect, or another with diabetes, pregnancy is life threatening.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
I guess you need a reminder: Did you even read your own article? "the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience," is from your own article. The article is more then the title.
If you are earning that little, you are not paying taxes.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
For some people paying higher taxes to pay for someone else's problems can be fatal. Some people have no money and they can't afford to pay for your friends problems. They live paycheck to paycheck and need food for their daughter. It is evil to ask someone not to feed their kid and pay for your friend instead.
Wrong again. It's not my article is it.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
If you are earning that little, you are not paying taxes. Why do you want people to go without food and not feed their kids? People need to take care of their kids. You should have taught Lucy better and she wouldn't have got knocked up. Then she wouldn't need my friends kids lunch money.
Advise them to keep their legs together.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
You and ming always coincidentally come on the same time. There are many of us who think you are the same person. All of your beliefs are the same too.
Ok it is Ferrets. But you are still commenting on it and saying it is off topic. When what I quoted is in the actual article and relevant.
That is a better answer then mine. But they don't want the Lucy's of the world to keep their legs closed. They want the Catholic church to buy them rubbers. I wonder if the Catholic church is supposed to buy condoms for faggots too.
Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Not worth two dead flies...
Apparently it doesn't work out for a significant number of men who have pledged their lives to God and made a vow to remain celibate, either.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
The woman gets her tubes tied.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
I doubt Lucysmom has a cow. And actually we vary quite a bit in our beliefs.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I guess Hondo speaks from experience.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
That is also condemned by the Catholic church. "Who is he who cannot warn that no woman may take a potion so that she is unable to conceive or condemns in herself the nature which God willed to be fecund? As often as she could have conceived or given birth, of that many homicides she will be held guilty, and, unless she undergoes suitable penance, she will be damned by eternal death in hell. If a woman does not wish to have children, let her enter into a religious agreement with her husband; for chastity is the sole sterility of a Christian woman" Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Only in the figurative sense. And actually we vary quite a bit in our beliefs. If we don't insult eachother how is Stone to know when we disagree?
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
If it's life threatening for her to become pregnant, the above doesn't apply. It's more of a sin for her to commit suicide. Your understanding of Catholic doctrine is about equal to Orly Taitz's understanding of the law. Are you related?
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
Are you sure about that? Today it is widely recognized that there can be morally compelling reasons to avoid pregnancies and to avoid conception. One way, of course, to avoid pregnancy is to practice contraception by using various forms of contraceptives. Each of these forms of contraception, however, has its "failure" rate and its share of unpleasant side-effects.1 In some instances, therefore, particularly when the mother's health may be seriously jeopardized by another pregnancy or when the child-to-be may be seriously crippled by a genetically or chromosomally induced disease, sterilization may seem to be the most efficient and medically sound way for exercising parental and familial responsibilities. The authentic teaching of the Church, as is well known, holds that both contraception and "direct," that is, contraceptive, sterilization, are inherently wrong and that therefore no one may rightly practice contraception or undergo direct sterilization even to carry out parental and familial obligations. Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
I doubt I could ever keep up with the uber conservatives here.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Didn't they used to prescibe aspirin to help them do just exactly that????? It's a very cheap and good solution to the problem of unwanted pregnancies....
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
Ain't that the truth!!!! The world would be a much better place with morals and family values, that's why Leftards don't want people to act civilized.....
There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest“As the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception but instead about the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience, he believes that Ms. Fluke is not an appropriate witness.”
#2. To: lucysmom (#1)
Does freedom of religion mean the Church has the right to dictate to women who are not Catholic regarding their health care choices?
#3. To: lucysmom (#1)
#4. To: Ferret Mike, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#0)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#5. To: hondo68 (#4)
Killing babies is "preventative health care"? I don't think so!
#6. To: hondo68, Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#4)
Killing babies is "preventative health care"? I don't think so!
#7. To: lucysmom (#6)
#8. To: A K A Stone (#5)
The ferret is a pro abort pervert lover.
#9. To: A K A Stone (#7)
Obama favors Catholics funding abortions.
#10. To: lucysmom (#8)
I guess that makes you an advocate of exposing babies to the elements. If the baby dies, well, hey - it was God's will; or at least someone else's fault.
#11. To: lucysmom (#9)
Obama favors Catholics funding abortions.
#12. To: lucysmom, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#6)
We're talking about contraception here, not abortion.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#13. To: A K A Stone (#10)
No I am in favor of wrapping a baby in a warm blanket.
#14. To: mininggold (#13)
You might be in favor yet you would do nothing to provide the same to a baby in need. To do so would brand the parents as socialists.
#15. To: A K A Stone (#10)
No I am in favor of wrapping a baby in a warm blanket.
#16. To: A K A Stone (#11)
the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience,
#17. To: lucysmom (#15)
As long as the babies family can afford the blanket - otherwise you'd happily let the baby and his parents freeze to death.
#18. To: hondo68 (#12)
There's no substantive health benefits to not having babies.
#19. To: lucysmom (#16)
the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience,
#20. To: A K A Stone (#17)
Why do I have to go out with food because some woman is having a kid?
#21. To: lucysmom (#18)
For some women, like my friend with a heart defect, or another with diabetes, pregnancy is life threatening.
#22. To: A K A Stone (#19)
Did you even read your own article?
#23. To: lucysmom (#20)
Why do I have to go out with food because some woman is having a kid?
#24. To: lucysmom (#18)
For some women, like my friend with a heart defect, or another with diabetes, pregnancy is life threatening.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#25. To: lucysmom (#22)
Wrong again. It's not my article is it.
#26. To: All (#25)
#27. To: hondo68 (#24)
Advise them to keep their legs together.
#28. To: hondo68 (#24)
Advise them to keep their legs together.
#29. To: lucysmom (#28)
Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?
#30. To: Fred Mertz (#29)
Not worth two dead flies...
#31. To: lucysmom (#28)
how does that work out in a marriage?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#32. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#25)
You and ming always coincidentally come on the same time. There are many of us who think you are the same person. All of your beliefs are the same too.
#33. To: lucysmom (#28)
Tell me, how does that work out in a marriage?
#34. To: hondo68 (#31)
The woman gets her tubes tied.
#35. To: mininggold (#32)
I doubt Lucysmom has a cow.
#36. To: lucysmom, *Ron Paul for President* (#34)
(Edited)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#37. To: hondo68 (#36)
If it's life threatening for her to become pregnant, the above doesn't apply. It's more of a sin for her to commit suicide.
#38. To: lucysmom (#35)
If we don't insult eachother how is Stone to know when we disagree?
#39. To: hondo68 (#24)
Advise them to keep their legs together.
#40. To: A K A Stone (#27)
I wonder if the Catholic church is supposed to buy condoms for faggots too.
#41. To: A K A Stone (#27)
But they don't want the Lucy's of the world to keep their legs closed.
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