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Title: An Immoral President Has Lost The Support Of The Catholics
Source: Washington Examiner
URL Source: http://campaign2012.washingtonexami ... holics-disapprove-obama/374661
Published: Feb 14, 2012
Author: Paul Bedard
Post Date: 2012-02-14 14:12:48 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 9437
Comments: 34

There goes the Catholic vote. Nearly four years after President Obama won 54 percent of Catholic voters, their support has plummeted to just 40 percent in the first poll conducted after he imposed a new birth control mandate on employers, including Catholic agencies.

In a new Rasmussen poll, 59 percent of Catholics now disapprove of the president's job. Rasmussen reports that 44 percent strongly disapprove. About 40 percent at least somewhat approve of Obama's job.

"Catholics strongly disapprove of the job President Obama is doing as the debate continues over his administration's new policy forcing Catholic institutions to pay for contraception they morally oppose," the pollster said in releasing his new survey. He added that while Obama's approval rating in other groups has improved, among Catholics it has remained stagnant.

Washington Secrets reported earlier that the president's controversial insurance mandated, rejected by Catholic bishops, was uniting Catholics politically, something rarely done by a politician or his policies.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Now go and make signs and put them in front of Catholic Churches and schools.

The signs should read "Obama wants Catholics to pay for Abortions".

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-14   14:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

I would never put any signs on anyone's private property but my own.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-14   14:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Church leaders were fools to think that they could dance with the Beast without it turning on them.

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-14   14:25:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: thoughtomator (#3)

Church leaders were fools to think that they could dance with the Beast without it turning on them.

Then they should stop asking government for special favors like tax exempt status.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-14   14:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#4)

tax exempt status

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise

The church should tell the government to go vote somewhere else. The day before the election.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-14   14:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise

What has paying taxes got to do with the above?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-14   14:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Tax exemptions are an establishment of religion.

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-14   15:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysmom, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#6) (Edited)

What has paying taxes got to do with the above?

It's illegal to give tax breaks to wimpy religions that kiss O'babykiller's butt.

It's discrimination in favor of Wiccan and Episcopalian gay churches, not equal treatment under the law.

Any preacher worthy of the name will denounce O'grimreaper from the pulpet, and damn the IRS for good measure. You're going to hell if you vote for Obama.

A Catholic might be able to get away with it if they rush from the voting booth to the confessional booth, but if they get killed in an accident on the way their goose is cooked.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-14   15:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: thoughtomator (#7)

Tax exemptions are an establishment of religion.

No it isn't. It is the free exercise without the interference from government. The church is more legitimate then the government.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-14   16:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)

In establishing a favored tax status for religion, the government must necessarily get into the business of deciding what is and is not religion.

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-14   22:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#0)

He's hardly immortal.


If you're gonna stir my pot, you'd better get a good grip on the handle!

mel  posted on  2012-02-14   23:01:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#9)

It is the free exercise without the interference from government. The church is more legitimate then the government.

Which church?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-14   23:01:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#12)

Which church?

All of them except for Trinity in Chicago, which is really just a racist cracka cult.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-14   23:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#12)

Which church?

I was ordained years ago in the Universal Life Church, I wonder if I could get a tax exemption?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-14   23:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mininggold (#14) (Edited)

I was ordained years ago in the Universal Life Church, I wonder if I could get a tax exemption?

Probably not, but exorcisms are covered under Obamacare.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-14   23:57:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mininggold (#14)

I was ordained years ago in the Universal Life Church, I wonder if I could get a tax exemption?

Women can't lead churches.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-15   6:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: thoughtomator (#10)

In establishing a favored tax status for religion, the government must necessarily get into the business of deciding what is and is not religion.

Not true. Taxes are supposed to be excise taxes. Churches shoulc pay the gas tax (which should be for roads).

There is not a legitimate slave tax (income tax).

It is common sense what a church is. Only when you let libards play games with semantics would you have problems. Cut their tongues and fingers off and there will be no problems.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-15   6:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#9)

The church is more legitimate then the government.

Except for the ones who preach social justice....

There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-15   6:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CZ82 (#18)

The church is more legitimate then the government.

Except for the ones who preach social justice....

The real church. Any questions on what is the real church. I'll let you know. :)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-15   6:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#17)

It is common sense what a church is.

Common sense and government are antonyms.

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-15   9:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: CZ82 (#18)

Except for the ones who preach social justice....

So Christian churches aren't real churches?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-15   9:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Taxes are supposed to be excise taxes.

Not according to the Constitution - but what did the founding fathers know?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-15   10:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone, mininggold (#16)

Women can't lead churches.

Women can and do lead churches.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-15   10:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#16) (Edited)

Women can't lead churches.

Why? They certainly were among Jesus's and Christianity's most avid early supporters.

www.godswordtowomen.org/evangelists.htm

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-15   10:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#23)

Women can and do lead churches.

True, the lesbian Episcopal bishops lead the flock to the gay parade.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-15   13:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited)

The real church. Any questions on what is the real church. I'll let you know. :)

It seemed that indeed the truth would be 'forever on the scaffold, and wrong forever on the throne'. With great eagerness he listened to the query, 'How long shall be the vision?'(Daniel 8:13)."

Daniel and the Coming King

Chapter 16

The Gospel In Daniel 9:24

By Dr.Desmond Ford

"It would be tragic if we contented ourselves with an analytical examination of this passage of Scripture. It is not merely a scintillating gem to be admired, but the bread of life to be eaten. It consists of 'the everlasting gospel' in minature."

"That which should concern us all the more than the issues of hermeneutics is the issue of life---our life. Not minutiae of prophetic interpretation, but sin, sorrow, and death constitute our problems. Daniel 9:24 assures us that the world is a ship and not an iceberg, that God is intensely interested in our dilemma, and, best of all, that He has done something to extricate us from the apparent cul-de-sac of existence. In Christ, the Melchizedekan King-Priest, He has brought in everlasting righteousness, freely offered to all who believe."

Chapter 14

Daniel and the Coming King---Daniel 9

By Dr.Desmond Ford

"Sir Isaac Newton, the greatest of scientists prior to the modern period, wrote a commentary upon the prohecies of Daniel and Revelations. He desribed Daniel 9:24-27 as "the foudation-stone of the Christian religion" because centuries in advance it gave the time of appearance of the Messiah and His death, as well as a comprehensive description of His saving work in heaven and earth. The prophecy likewise tells what would be the fate of the Jews consequent upon their rejection of the One whose coming they had long anticpated. The destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, foretold in Daniel 9:24-27, was history's testimony that the offerings and services of the sanctuary had met their fulfillment in the advent of the promised Messiah."

Newton, Isaac. Observsations Upon the Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalpse of St. John. London: J. Darby and T. Browne, 1733 (Isaac Newton)

Chapter 14

Daniel and the Coming King---Daniel 9

by Dr.Desmond Ford

Seal Up the Vision

"The expression 'to seal up the vision' (v.24) should be considered. This expression, 'the vision', occurs eleven times in Daniel 8:1 to 10:1, and in all these cases it refers to the vision described in the eighth chapter of Daniel. The reader is advised to read again the entire passage. In pictorial, symbolic form the prophet was shown the unfolding of all future centuries till the second advent of Christ. The famous empires, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome, which long oppressed the people of God, are described; but particular emphasis is given to the persecution of the church during the Christian era and also to the supremacy of the couterfeit, apostate religion over most of that period. Christ's mediatorial ministry in heaven is alluded to, but its eclipse from men's mind through a counterfeit system is fortold. The sanctuary mentioned refers both to the church temple indwelt by the Holy Spirit on earth, as well as Israel's typical sanctuary. No doubt Daniel was dazed by this revelation of the apparent triumph of evil. In his lifetime he had witnessed the destruction of Jerusalem's temple, the center of true religion, and the carrying into captivity of the people of God by an idolatrous and desolating nation. Now in vision he is informed that this state of affairs is to continue on a much greater scale throughout most of the earth's history. It seemed that indeed the truth would be 'forever on the scaffold, and wrong forever on the throne'. With great eagerness he listened to the query, 'How long shall be the vision?'(Daniel 8:13)."

"Now in the revelation of 9:24-27 the mourning seer is told that there is a greater Prince of the house of Judah, a greater atonement, a greater sanctuary, and a greater redemption than any ever before experienced by Israel. The long- awaited Messiah, the Prince, a Priest-King, will take away the sin of the world and end earth's dark night. Thus 9:24 and 8:14 point to the same reality---the kingdom of God ignaugurated at the first advent and consummated at the second."

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-02-15   14:49:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#25)

True, the lesbian Episcopal bishops lead the flock to the gay parade.

Stone prefers European pediphile priests telling American women they can't use birth control.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-15   18:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: thoughtomator (#7)

Tax exemptions are an establishment of religion.

Really??

Then why don't you indict THE STATE as its own "religion" because it has exempted nearly 50% of America's citizenry from paying taxes?

And btw - without Christian/Catholic charities, food banks, soup kitchens, hospitals, schools, and various other donations of humanitarian and material support, YOUR whining anti-Christian ilk would be paying a LOT more in taxes just to fill that tremendous void of resources dispersed without fanfare.

Liberator  posted on  2012-02-15   20:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom, hondo68, A K A Stone (#27) (Edited)

Stone prefers European pediphile priests telling American women they can't use birth control.

And Lucy's Mom and her ilk prefer a dumpster the size of a colosseum to dump all the "inconvenient" fetus body parts, "pseudo-human" tissue, corpses, and bloody, unwanted "DNA scraps".

It's easy to engage in hyperbole, ain't it, Mom? Except My description wasn't hyperbole.

Liberator  posted on  2012-02-15   20:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lucysmom (#4) (Edited)

They [Church Leaders] should stop asking government for special favors like tax exempt status.

Why then don't you indict THE STATE for dispensing its "special favors" to parasites and illegal invaders because the Goob has exempted nearly 50% of America's citizenry from paying taxes?

In case you've been reared in a cave, without Christian/Catholic charities, food banks, soup kitchens, hospitals, schools, and various other donations of humanitarian and material support, YOUR whining anti-Christian ilk would be paying a LOT more in taxes just to fill that tremendous void of resources dispersed without fanfare or bragging about it by most Christian church leaders.

OTOH, 0bama spends/wastes billions in taxpayer money then brags they HE is The One playing Santa Claus when he forks over FREE stuff to deadbeats and Dem supporters - LIKE YOU.

Liberator  posted on  2012-02-15   21:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: hondo68, lucysmom (#25) (Edited)

the lesbian Episcopal bishops lead the flock to the gay parade.

THIS is true in too many cases.

And then there is the infamous queer, perverted Episcopal anti-Christ - Bishop Sponge.

Liberator  posted on  2012-02-15   21:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Now go and make signs and put them in front of Catholic Churches and schools.

The signs should read "Obama wants Catholics to pay for Abortions".

AMEN!

Liberator  posted on  2012-02-15   21:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Liberator (#30)

In case you've been reared in a cave, without Christian/Catholic charities, food banks, soup kitchens, hospitals, schools, and various other donations of humanitarian and material support, YOUR whining anti-Christian ilk would be paying a LOT more in taxes just to fill that tremendous void of resources dispersed without fanfare or bragging about it by most Christian church leaders.

I admire Quakers.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-15   23:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Liberator (#29)

And Lucy's Mom and her ilk prefer ...

I wouldn't give up my day job for that mind reading act just yet if I were you.

If is sooo hard for you black or white types to imagine anything in between your polar opposites.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-15   23:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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