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Title: Assassinated Arizona Judge Ruled Against the Obama Admintstration in 3 cases
Source: NaturalNews
URL Source: http://www.naturalnews.com/031326_Judge_John_Roll_Giffords.html
Published: Feb 12, 2012
Author: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer
Post Date: 2012-02-12 14:51:11 by Murron
Keywords: None
Views: 10924
Comments: 19

Assassinated Arizona Judge Ruled Against the Obama Admintstration in 3 cases

Murdered Judge Defended Sheriff Mack

"11 Jan 2011 ... Mack was challenging the act as unconstitutional and in violation of the Tenth and Thirteenth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution. Judge Roll ..."

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/crime/5855-murdered-judge-defended-sheriff-mack

Alex Jones interviews Sheriff Richard Mack about Arizona Shooting

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yng4hJU5HRY

Media Blackout. Why no mention of Judge Roll? | Ron Paul 2012 ...

"11 Jan 2011 ... Judge John Roll was the leading judicial voice supporting Sheriff Richard Mack's Tenth Amendment lawsuit against the Feds. Sheriff Mack has ..." www.dailypaul.com/154100/...-no-mention-of-judge-roll

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Judge Roll over-rule Obama's "confiscation of 401ks" days ...

"18 Jan 2011 ... The judge, USDC court of Arizona Presiding Judge Roll, was shot and ... news about the Feds trying to hit the retirement funds sometime ago."

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"Top US Federal Judge Assassinated After Threat To Obama Agenda ... In 2009, Judge Roll faced death threats after presiding over a $32 million .... all citizens 401 pensions and superannuation funds belonging to the people, ..." forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1059586700

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"14 Feb 2011 ... Judge Roll, considered by some to be one of the most ... Judge Roll issued a ' preliminary ruling' against a case that would permit Obama to seize citizens' .... raids federal employee pension funds to cover debts (Yahoo News) ..." www.naturalnews.com/03132...e_John_Roll_Giffords.html

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#1. To: All (#0)

Media Blackout. Why no mention of Judge Roll?

"Media Blackout. Why no mention of Judge Roll?

With all the media hype about the shooting of a Congresswoman, understandably so...

...she is still alive, but a federal judge is dead.

If a federal judge was murdered by a gunman on any other day, it would have been even BIGGER news. Especially if he was pro-abortion. However, this was a disposable federal judge. Not worthy of mention. Judge John Roll was the leading judicial voice supporting Sheriff Richard Mack's Tenth Amendment lawsuit against the Feds. Sheriff Mack has stated that Judge Roll was by far the best Federal Judge in the U.S. (Constitutionally speaking).

So good riddance, I suppose. No discussion about his character, his grieving family, his service or his case rulings. Besides, his being pro-gun might not sync with the tea party label which was so readily applied to the murderer kook.

Judge John McCarthy Roll...A Patriot who upheld the Constitution by helping to defeat portions of the illegal federal power grab, known as the Brady Bill.

R.I.P.

That makes two unsolved swept under the rug murders now for getting to close to exposing Barry the Kenyan `~ sine-qua-non

(Ferret Mike: "The best way to lead is by example. If we got rid of nuclear weapons, it would be profoundly easier to justify acting against other nations should they act to develop them.")

Murron  posted on  2012-02-12   15:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Murron, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#1)

Gifford's husband fingers the guy who ordered the hit

Acorn hit man.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-12   15:42:13 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#2)

Obama didn't order no hit. That is nuts.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   16:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Murron (#0)

Not a single one of your links worked.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   16:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#3)

Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder?

Sinclair asserts that he met Obama twice in 1999. Their rendezvous was orchestrated by limo driver, Jagir Multani. Sinclair avers that Multani may have been in the United States illegally. Sinclair alleges that Obama smoked crack cocaine and directed Sinclair to administer a Lewinsky—which Sinclair obliged. According to Sinclair, the following day Obama materialized at Sinclair’s hotel to solicit supplementary Lewinskyization. That was the entirety of their affair, per Sinclair. Expecting to be serviced with no impulse to reciprocate is certainly consistent with Obama’s consummate narcissism. [...snip]
If Obama habitually enjoyed these sorts of trysts, we would presume others witnesses would surface. To date, no one else has gone public with comparable reports. Maybe the late Donald Young, choir director at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago could have confirmed that Obama didn’t indulge in this type of conduct. Sadly, Young was murdered on December 23, 2007.

If he ordered Donald Young killed, why not a judge, congresswoman and a few innocent bystanders?

Quit trying to cover up for O'bungler!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-12   16:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#5)

I think the kooky looking guy did it. There were plenty of witnesses. I think he is just kooky not some Obama hit man.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   16:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Not a single one of your links worked.

Not now they don't. I took this article from LP. There are many interested in why this judge's death was knocked off the radar, so I thought I do some research...who knew all the links would get scrubed?

(Ferret Mike: "The best way to lead is by example. If we got rid of nuclear weapons, it would be profoundly easier to justify acting against other nations should they act to develop them.")

Murron  posted on  2012-02-12   16:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#4)

I'll tell you what's really pissing me off, everytime I find a good lead to a story about Judge John McCarthy Roll and ANY connection he had to this administration, it gets cut off...dissapears into a black hole...and picks up with a Kazillion stories about Rep. Gabrielle Giffords!

(Ferret Mike: "The best way to lead is by example. If we got rid of nuclear weapons, it would be profoundly easier to justify acting against other nations should they act to develop them.")

Murron  posted on  2012-02-12   17:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Murron (#8)

it gets cut off...dissapears into a black hole...and picks up with a Kazillion stories about Rep. Gabrielle Giffords!

Google censors their search results, in addition to putting you in a "bubble". Bubble means that you may get different results according to what they think you want to hear. They build a profile on you based on past searches, and God only knows what.

I use DuckDuckGo now. duckduckgo.com/ Click on the name of your browser in the bottom right corner to get the plugin for your search bar.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-12   17:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#9)

Google censors their search results, in addition to putting you in a "bubble". Bubble means that you may get different results according to what they think you want to hear. They build a profile on you based on past searches, and God only knows what.

I use DuckDuckGo now. duckduckgo.com/ Click on the name of your browser in the bottom right corner to get the plugin for your search bar.

What a coincidence, I've just recently stumbled upon DuckDuckGo myself, I've only used it a couple of time though. There were a couple of other deep web search engine I like a few years ago, damn sight better than google, but they aren't up anymore.

I used to depend on dogpile, till they joined ranks with google, ask and a couple of other government run BS sites. Thanks!

(Ferret Mike: "The best way to lead is by example. If we got rid of nuclear weapons, it would be profoundly easier to justify acting against other nations should they act to develop them.")

Murron  posted on  2012-02-12   17:34:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Murron (#1)

Murdered Judge Defended Sheriff Mack

Media Blackout. Why no mention of Judge Roll?...

Could you post a link to the obit?

Jameson  posted on  2012-02-12   17:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jameson (#11)

"Murdered Judge Defended Sheriff Mack"

"Media Blackout. Why no mention of Judge Roll?... Could you post a link to the obit?"

Murdered Judge Defended Sheriff Mack

The New america

Written by Kelly Holt, Tuesday, 11 January 2011

Judge John M. Roll, murdered in Saturday’s shooting rampage in Tucson, was the leading judicial voice supporting former Graham County, Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack in his 1997 lawsuit against the federal government. Mack is a speaker, states’ rights advocate and author of The County Sheriff: America’s Last Hope.

Sheriff Mack observed in an interview on Alex Jones’ Jan. 10 radio broadcast that John Roll changed his life. He has quoted Roll in his books. In 1997, when Mack was sheriff of Graham County, he joined with Sheriff Jay Printz of Montana in filing a suit against the federal government regarding the Brady Act. The resulting Supreme Court decision found the Act unconstitutional.

The Brady Act not only would have required state and local officials to carry out and fund a federal mandate regarding gun regulations, but it also called for the arrest of any law enforcement officer who refused to enforce it. On the basis of these provisions, Mack and Printz filed suit, and were eventually joined by five other sheriffs around the nation. Mack recalled of the judge:

He was really worried about the sanctions against me (or any other sheriff) — he protected me. Judge Roll stood up for me in particular because I was the only one filing the lawsuit at the time.

Mack was challenging the act as unconstitutional and in violation of the Tenth and Thirteenth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution. Judge Roll added that it was “unconstitutionally vague in violation of the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment.” Mack hoped to gain a permanent injunction against the Brady Act.

Judge Roll’s 1994 decision included his defense of Mack:

Mack is thus forced to choose between violating his oath or violating the Act, subjecting himself to possible sanctions.... See Board of Education v. Allen, 392 U.S. 236 (1968) (plaintiffs' belief that statute forced them to choose between following oath and statute supplied personal stake necessary for standing). The government's position is untenable. When the language of a criminal statute is clear, as is true of 18 U.S.C. 922(s), the executive branch is not at liberty to amend that statute by fiat.

During Alex Jones' January 10 radio interview, Sheriff Mack reminded him that six months previously Arizona had returned to a constitutional form of adherence to the Second Amendment. No permits, fees, or licenses are required for Arizonans to carry. Mack said he believed that the recent mass shooting is being used to reinstate gun laws in Arizona, asserting, "This may be another spoke in the wheel of this whole story."

Not all remember Judge Roll quite so fondly. The Jan. 10 New American reported,

The other prominent victim who was killed during the shooting rampage, John M. Roll, was chief federal judge in Arizona. He was appointed in 1991 by the senior George Bush. Ironically, Roll had been the target of hundreds of threats in February 2009 after he allowed a lawsuit filed by illegal immigrants against a rancher to go forward. "They cursed him out, threatened to kill his family, said they'd come and take care of him. They really wanted him dead," a law enforcement official told the Washington Post in May 2009. But it took a madman to kill him.

Though positions such as this on the judge’s part may seem at variance with his actions in the Mack case, he nevertheless made an important contribution to individual liberties in his defense of Sheriff Mack.

Alex Jones called the judge a patriot, noting the irony that his death was “blamed on the Tea Party” and other constitutional conservatives.

(Ferret Mike: "The best way to lead is by example. If we got rid of nuclear weapons, it would be profoundly easier to justify acting against other nations should they act to develop them.")

Murron  posted on  2012-02-12   17:53:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Obama didn't order no hit. That is nuts.

Tell dead Donald Young's mom she's nuts.

    Mother Of Obama’s Murdered Gay Lover Speaks Up

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-02-12   17:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jameson (#11)

Could you post a link to the obit?

January 9, 2011

Law Blog Obituary: Arizona Federal Judge, John Roll, 63.

The tragic shooting in Tucson Saturday morning took the life of six people, among them John McCarthy Roll, the chief judge of the District of Arizona.

By Ashby Jones The tragic shooting in Tucson Saturday morning took the life of six people, among them John McCarthy Roll, the chief judge of the District of Arizona.

Judge Roll was 63. Click here for my and Nathan Koppel’s story on Roll in the WSJ; here for the NYT’s article; here for the LAT’s; here for the Arizona Republic’s.

Roll was known within the Tucson legal community as a conservative and even- handed jurist who, in recent years had worked hard to increase funding for an overstretched Arizona federal bench.

“He was a life-long Republican and I don’t think he would have objected to hearing anyone call him conservative,” said Ninth Circuit judge Michael Daly Hawkins, who had known Judge Roll for over 40 years. “But he was always fair- minded and absolutely attentive to everyone who appeared in his courtroom.”

Roll had attended the event Saturday in Tucson to thank Rep. Gabrielle Giffords for signing a letter to Judge Alex Kozinski, the chief judge of the Ninth Circuit, to help convince the court to declare his federal judicial district a judicial emergency due to the high number of immigration cases that were being heard in that district, according to Judge Hawkins. A judicial emergency would put certain new measures in place, such as allowing judges to delay a trial because there were not enough bodies to hear the cases.

Judge Roll was appointed to the federal bench by President George H.W. Bush in 1991, and had served as chief judge of the District of Arizona since 2006.

Throughout the time on the federal bench, Judge Roll developed a reputation as for dealing sternly with criminal defendants, especially those accused of crossing into the state illegally from Mexico. But the judge was also fair- minded, said Richard Martinez, a Tucson attorney who specializes in civil rights litigation. Martinez appeared before the judge in a high profile 2005 suit filed by Mexican immigrants, who claimed that their civil rights had been violated by Arizona ranchers who had detained them at gunpoint after they crossed the border.

Judge Roll in 2009 denied the ranchers’ motion to dismiss the case, a ruling that earned him scorn among some factions and even death threats.

Roll and his wife were provided federal protection for a stretch following the 2009 decision. He told the Arizona Republic that the situation was “unnerving and invasive.”

In recent years, Judge Roll gained bi-partisan support and respect for his tireless pleas for more resources for the federal judiciary, often telling legislators that many of his colleagues on the bench were overwhelmed with immigration and drug cases, attorneys said.

Prior to joining the federal bench, Judge Roll served as an Arizona state judge and as a prosecutor at the city, county and federal levels. He graduated from the University of Arizona in 1969 and the University of Arizona College of Law in 1972.

According to the LAT, Judge Raner Collins of Tucson is expected to replace Roll as chief judge for the district.

(Ferret Mike: "The best way to lead is by example. If we got rid of nuclear weapons, it would be profoundly easier to justify acting against other nations should they act to develop them.")

Murron  posted on  2012-02-12   17:57:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Murron (#0)

About time things started 'getting done', indeed~!

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-02-12   18:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Murron (#14)

Roll had attended the event Saturday in Tucson to thank Rep. Gabrielle Giffords for signing a letter to Judge Alex Kozinski, the chief judge of the Ninth Circuit, to help convince the court to declare his federal judicial district a judicial emergency due to the high number of immigration cases that were being heard in that distric
The Unofficial Judge Alex Kozinski Site

Judge Alex Kozinski (born July 23, 1950) is a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Appointed by President Ronald Reagan on November 7, 1985, Kozinski has won supporters from the left and the right with his common-sense decisions and libertarian instinct. His writing is clear and often humorous, and has been featured in mainstream publications such as Forbes and Slate.

He was born in Bucharest, Romania but his parents, both Holocaust survivors, brought him to America in 1962 (he was only 12). They settled in Los Feliz, California and his father, Moses, ran a small grocery store there.

There's not too many good judges but Kosinski is one of them. An immigrant who appreciates the US.

It's a insult to real patriotic immigrants like this, to call illegal aliens "immigrants".


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-12   18:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Murron (#14)

Thanks -

Jameson  posted on  2012-02-12   18:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jameson (#17)

You're very welcome Jameson, I hope that was what you wanted, but I'm still (when I have time) looking for more. Not that it will amount to a hill of beans, but I am curious. ;)

(Ferret Mike: "The best way to lead is by example. If we got rid of nuclear weapons, it would be profoundly easier to justify acting against other nations should they act to develop them.")

Murron  posted on  2012-02-12   19:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Murron (#14)

According to the LAT, Judge Raner Collins of Tucson is expected to replace Roll as chief judge for the district.

Let me guess Collins is a flaming Leftard????

There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-13   8:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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