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Title: It’s a girl: The three deadliest words in the world
Source: ICUK.com
URL Source: http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012 ... -deadliest-words-in-the-world/
Published: Jan 22, 2012
Author: Ram Mashru
Post Date: 2012-01-22 17:57:26 by CZ82
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Views: 5499
Comments: 16

It’s a girl: The three deadliest words in the world

By Ram Mashru

It’s a girl, a film being released this year, documents the practice of killing unwanted baby girls in South Asia. The trailer’s most chilling scene is one with an Indian woman who, unable to contain her laughter, confesses to having killed eight infant daughters.

The statistics are sickening. The UN reports approximately 200 million girls in the world today are ‘missing’. India and China are said to eliminate more female infants than the number of girls born in the US each year. Lianyungang in China has the worst infant gender ratio on record with 163 boys born for every 100 girls. Taiwan, South Korea and Pakistan are also countries in which unwanted female babies are aborted, killed or abandoned.

Gendercide in South Asia takes many forms: baby girls are killed or abandoned if not aborted as foetuses. Girls that are not killed often suffer malnutrition and medical neglect as sons are favoured when shelter, medicine and food are scarce. Trafficking, dowry deaths, honour killings and deaths resulting from domestic violence are all further evils perpetrated against women. This femicide has led the Geneva Centre for Democratic Control of Armed Forces to report in ‘Women in an Insecure World’ that a secret genocide is being carried out against women at a time when deaths resulting from armed conflicts have decreased.

The brutal irony of femicide is that it is an evil perpetrated against girls by women. The most insidious force is often the mother in law, the domestic matriarch, under whose authority the daughter in law lives. Policy efforts to halt infanticide have been directed at mothers, who are often victims themselves. The trailer shows tragic scenes of women having to decide between killing their daughters and their own well-being. In India women who fail to produce sons are beaten, raped or killed so that men can remarry in the hope of procuring a more productive wife.

It is an oft-made argument that parental discrimination between children would end if families across south Asia were rescued from poverty. But two factors particularly suggest that femicide is a cultural phenomenon and that development and economic policy are only a partial solution: Firstly, there is no evidence of concerted female infanticide among poverty-stricken societies in Africa or the Caribbean. Secondly, it is the affluent and urban middle classes, who are aware of prenatal screenings, who have access to clinics and who can afford abortions that commit foeticide. Activists fear 8 million female foetuses have been aborted in India in the last decade.

The Chinese cultural bias towards male children is one exacerbated by the birth control policy. India, however, poses a more complex problem where the primary cause is a cultural one.

Activists attribute a culture of valuing children by their economic potential to South Asia’s patriarchal social model in which men are the sole breadwinners. Sons both carry the family name and work from a young age. Daughter, on the other hand, impose the burden of a dowry before leaving the home upon marriage. Strict moral codes, onerous cultural expectations and demanding domestic responsibilities are all forces that further subjugate women.

Dr Saleem ur Rehman, director of health services for the Kashmiri Valley, has conceded that a healthy male to female infant ratio in Kashmir in 2001 led him and his team to become complacent. Since 2001, the ratio has dropped from 94.1 to 85.9 girls per 100 boys. The solution, however, lies beyond merely holding officials to account.

The cultural root of the problem partially explains why an effective solution has eluded authorities. Legal prohibitions have proved ineffective. In India, dowries were outlawed 1961 and in 1994 the Prenatal Determination Act outlawed gender selective abortions. Yet dowries remain a condition of marriage and action against unregistered or non-compliant clinics fail to intercept registered medical professionals performing illegal operations.

A crude supply and demand distinction can be drawn. Activists argue the demand for eliminating female fetuses is independent of the supply of illegal services. Only those that can afford to abort will do so. Others simply kill or abandon female infants after birth. This foeticide/infanticide equation will only skew towards the latter if the problem of illegal clinics and criminal doctors were solved.

In the New Statesmen, Laurie Penny explained that South Korea improved its infant gender ratio through a programme of education. But is increasing the awareness of contraception, abortion laws and women’s rights a panacea? No. Educational efforts insufficiently target the core cultural canker. Similarly, economic policed designed to encourage development are necessary but insufficient. Any improvement in living conditions is unlikely to offset the financial burden of raising a child and a dowry.

A solution therefore must be three-fold. Policy efforts combatting poverty must be supplemented by legal prohibitions. There must be an educational programme informing women of their rights. Finally and most importantly, there must be a social and religions campaign aimed at destroying ossified cultural attitudes.

The distinction between, on the one hand a programme of economics and education and on the other a cultural campaign is not qualitative but quantitative. The latter warrants a greater level of official engagement, allowing governments to actively discourage femicide rather than passively encouraging change.

A ‘secret genocide’ is a malaise in response to which government paternalism must surely be justified. In Kashmir, officials have enlisted the help of social and religious leaders. It is religious and social leaders that must reinforce legal prohibitions on dowries with campaigns attacking the social pressures of producing one. And they must supplement information of women’s rights by persuading mothers to educate their daughters and to allow their daughters to work. These cultural channels are best placed to begin to erode sexist cultural monoliths.

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0) (Edited)

Here is what the article doesn't say:

As a result of the genocide against females, there is a huge shortage of girls in some big powerful countries like China.

What do men without women do??? They turn to violence. Those raging hormones need some kind of outlet...

There are upwards of 100 million men without women in China.

This poses a HUGE risk for the rest of the world.

One of my favorite stories:

When Yasser Arafat needed to comply with the peace treaty with Israel, he tried to figure out what to do with the violent men on the PLO's front line.

His solution?

Introduce them to their future wives...

It really worked.

Unfortunately, the PLO soldiers were replaced with a new generation of Hamas, but that's another discussion.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-22   18:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: jwpegler (#1)

As a result of the genocide against females, there is a huge shortage of girls in some big powerful countries like China.

What do men without women do??? They turn to violence. Those raging hormones need some kind of outlet...

There are upwards of 100 million men without women in China.

This poses a HUGE risk for the rest of the world.

That's just something you read somewhere. Spouting unsubstantiated speculation isn't adding to a conversation.

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Say hello to your grandma for me.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-01-22   19:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Biff Tannen (#2) (Edited)

That's just something you read somewhere.

I've been in 26 countries.

I've been in many countries 20+ times.

I've been all over Asia many times.

Yes, I've read some things on this subject from scholarly sources and also experienced a lot of it myself.

Unlike you, I understand the world around me.

What are your international qualifications? Oh maybe you've seen the Pyramids of Las Vegas... and perhaps have been to a resort in Cancun.

Whoopi!

Your ignorance has not contributed to this important discussion.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-22   19:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#3)

Your ignorance has not contributed to this important discussion.

That's usually true but I'm not the one pretending to be a columnist or blogger or whatever.

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Say hello to your grandma for me.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-01-22   19:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Biff Tannen (#4)

That's usually true but I'm not the one pretending to be a columnist or blogger or whatever.

It's good not to pretend.

I'm the owner of a technology company who blogs on the side.

How about you? Welfare? Social Security?

Who pays your bills???


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-22   19:54:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: jwpegler (#3)

I've been in 26 countries.

I've been in many countries 20+ times.

I've been all over Asia many times.

Yes, I've read some things on this subject from scholarly sources and also experienced a lot of it myself.

Unlike you, I understand the world around me.

That doesn't make you an expert on anything other than landing at various airports.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-22   20:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#1)

What do men without women do??? They turn to violence. Those raging hormones need some kind of outlet...

sublimation: the process of converting and expressing a primitive instinctual desire or impulse to a form that is socially or culturally acceptable

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-22   20:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mininggold, jwpegler (#6)

jwpegler: I've been in 26 countries. I've been in many countries 20+ times. I've been all over Asia many times. Yes, I've read some things on this subject from scholarly sources and also experienced a lot of it myself. Unlike you, I understand the world around me.

Dingaling: That doesn't make you an expert on anything other than landing at various airports.

Spoken like a true American.

You think that your comment somehow minimizes the statement that jwpegler made. Instead, it minimizes you as a person who has any insight into the question brought up by the article.

You see, American logic follows certain patterns, which may (or may not) work in the USA, but certainly fail when you get beyond Western culture. Such logic not only comes across as naive, but downright arrogant and dully ignorant, at the same time. Such details simply escape you, because you're trapped in the propagandized culture that Western civilization has become.

Put simply: you think you're clever, and in reality, you just made yourself look like an idiot.

I didn't understand the difference, until I spent significant amounts of time outside Western influences, and started to understand for myself. You'll not learn the truth, sitting on your "ranch" in Florida. You're just another brainwashed sheeple, bleating the propaganda.

So kindly shut your FUCKING mouth, you silly bitch. Your opinion has been amply demonstrated to have no value. When I need the approved propaganda, I'll ask you something. Until then, shut up, and listen to the adults.

Bimbo.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” -- Samuel Adams --

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-23   0:23:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#8)

Spoken like a true American.

Exactly right. Great post.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-23   10:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Capitalist Eric (#8)

Spoken like a true American.

You think that your comment somehow minimizes the statement that jwpegler made. Instead, it minimizes you as a person who has any insight into the question brought up by the article.

You see, American logic follows certain patterns, which may (or may not) work in the USA, but certainly fail when you get beyond Western culture. Such logic not only comes across as naive, but downright arrogant and dully ignorant, at the same time. Such details simply escape you, because you're trapped in the propagandized culture that Western civilization has become.

Put simply: you think you're clever, and in reality, you just made yourself look like an idiot.

I didn't understand the difference, until I spent significant amounts of time outside Western influences, and started to understand for myself. You'll not learn the truth, sitting on your "ranch" in Florida. You're just another brainwashed sheeple, bleating the propaganda.

So kindly shut your FUCKING mouth, you silly bitch. Your opinion has been amply demonstrated to have no value. When I need the approved propaganda, I'll ask you something. Until then, shut up, and listen to the adults.

Bimbo.

Yet you appear to have lived in the US most of your life and you seem to have no clue as to what is going on.

Maybe you should make that your dissertation thesis. How casually visiting a country on business or staying there long enough to satisfy US customs requirements when purchasing a product from their mail order bride suppliers makes one an expert on that country's inner workings.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-23   12:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mininggold (#10)

Yet you appear to have lived in the US most of your life and you seem to have no clue as to what is going on.

Hmmm. Interesting.

Your response is a string of logical fallacies to divert attention from your own ignorance.

For example, the quote above is a typical strawman argument.

Maybe you should make that your dissertation thesis. How casually visiting a country on business or staying there long enough to satisfy US customs requirements when purchasing a product from their mail order bride suppliers makes one an expert on that country's inner workings.

From here,

Argumentum ad homiminem: an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it.... Ad hominem attacks on one's opponent are a tried-and-true strategy for people who have a case that is weak.

You make it too easy.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” -- Samuel Adams --

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-23   12:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Capitalist Eric (#11)

So kindly shut your FUCKING mouth, you silly bitch. Your opinion has been amply demonstrated to have no value. When I need the approved propaganda, I'll ask you something. Until then, shut up, and listen to the adults.

Bimbo.

What, from your list of logical fallacies, is the above?

BTW, are you signing off as "Bimbo"?

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-23   12:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Capitalist Eric, mininggold, jwpegler (#8)

jwpegler: I've been in 26 countries. I've been in many countries 20+ times. I've been all over Asia many times. Yes, I've read some things on this subject from scholarly sources and also experienced a lot of it myself. Unlike you, I understand the world around me.

Dingaling: That doesn't make you an expert on anything other than landing at various airports.

Spoken like a true American.

You think that your comment somehow minimizes the statement that jwpegler made. Instead, it minimizes you as a person who has any insight into the question brought up by the article.

Actually mininggold is right on. I've observed many Americans traveling abroad who spend their time encased in their American cultural bubble. They may be in a foreign country physically, but they are not culturally.

You see, American logic follows certain patterns, which may (or may not) work in the USA, but certainly fail when you get beyond Western culture. Such logic not only comes across as naive, but downright arrogant and dully ignorant, at the same time. Such details simply escape you, because you're trapped in the propagandized culture that Western civilization has become.

But you, Eric, come across as "downright arrogant and dully ignorant" in the context of you native culture.

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-23   12:58:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#12)

What, from your list of logical fallacies, is the above?

BTW, are you signing off as "Bimbo"?

Oh, how surprising...

Rule of Disinformation #17: Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

Do you EVER have an original thought?

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” -- Samuel Adams --

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-23   13:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#13)

Actually mininggold is right on.

Which means you're as stupid as Dingaling is.

But you, Eric, come across as "downright arrogant and dully ignorant" in the context of you native culture.

YOUR perceptions and opinions have no value.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” -- Samuel Adams --

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-23   13:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Capitalist Eric (#15)

YOUR perceptions and opinions have no value.

As I said...

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-23   20:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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