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Title: MERS, the law, and the State
Source: Naked Capitalism
URL Source: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012 ... ers-the-law-and-the-state.html
Published: Jan 17, 2012
Author: lambert strether.
Post Date: 2012-01-17 12:12:19 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 12511
Comments: 38

Trotter told me that the “true horror” of MERS [1818 Library Street, Suite 300 Reston, VA 20190, 1-800-646-6377] was what it could do to homeowners who were current on their mortgage payments: The “good” homeowners who still had a job and weren’t facing foreclosure. If there was no legal record of which bank owned their debt [see below if you haven't been following NC on MERS], and the MERS-mortgaged homeowners had been making payments, then who exactly was the homeowner paying? The checks, clearly, were going out every month, cashed by a bank that claimed to own the note. But without the legal record to certify the owner of the note, it followed that the bank could not legally issue the homeowner a clear title to the home. In effect, a homeowner with MERS on his mortgage could spend thirty years paying a lender that wasn’t the owner of the note. …. “[Y]ou’d always be looking over your shoulder,” said Trotter. “Some other lender could come and say ‘No, we owned that note. You paid the wrong guy.” “WIth MERS”, he said, “nobody owns anything. You’re only paying rent.”

That’s not a bug. It’s a feature. At least for a rentier, although not necessarily for Trotter.

Second, Ketcham offers a lucid and succinct explanation of how this MERS feature came to be implemented:

[Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems] was created in 1995 as a privately held venture of the major mortgage-finance operators… Its stated purpose was to manage a confidential electronic registry for tracking of the sale of mortgage loans between lenders… No longer would the traffickers in mortgages have to document their transactions with county clerks, nor would they have to pay the many and varied courthouse fees… This centralized database facilitated the buying and selling of mortgage debt at great speed and greatly reduced cost. … Without the efficiencies [dread word] of MERS there probably would never have been a mortgage bubble.

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#2. To: lucysmom (#0)

Your comments are almost perfectly opposite of reality.

This article is crap, exactly backwards from reality.

If the ownership of the note is in doubt, because the chain of custody is broken (as happens when the docs are shredded and the data is typed into MERS), than the mortgage is null and void.

That is why they had robosigners- to create the illusion of an unbroken chain of custody.

No clear ownership of a payable note? Then the note is moot.

This my first look at that site, BTW. I see now, where you get your inane talking-points. Talk about intellectual lightweights! LMAO!

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-17   15:40:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Capitalist Eric (#2) (Edited)

If the ownership of the note is in doubt, because the chain of custody is broken (as happens when the docs are shredded and the data is typed into MERS), than (sic) the mortgage is null and void.

In your dreams Perry Mason, Jr.

A promissory note is a promissory note and is wholly enforceable. Just because the "chain of custody (was) 'broken'" - whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean in this instance - it does not forgive or otherwise ameliorate any liens that are on the title to the underlying property.

What the issue becomes, whenever there may be a cause of action between the lien holder and the debtor, the lien holder can be forced to show that he has received actual and legal custody of the lien and is thus entitled to take custody of the property through foreclosure.

I'm having that very issue with Bank of America right now. They are the 4th mortgage servicing agent I've had on my mortgage. Over 3 years ago, I asked them, through my attorney, to PROVE that they hold the actual lien on the property.

So far...nothing.

That has not lessened my obligation to pay my mortgage one cent.

war  posted on  2012-01-17   15:53:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war, Brian S (#3)

A promissory note is a promissory note and is wholly enforceable. Just because the "chain of custody (was) 'broken'" - whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean in this instance - it does not forgive or otherwise ameliorate any liens that are on the title to the underlying property.

I'm having that very issue with Bank of America right now. They are the 4th mortgage servicing agent I've had on my mortgage. Over 3 years ago, I asked them, through my attorney, to PROVE that they hold the actual lien on the property.

So far...nothing.

I've posted several articles about this issue already. So has Brian S.

Here are the links to my articles, so you can educate yourself, pops.

Try here, here and here.

For other sites where they discuss the significance of "chain of custody" versus "chain of ownership," there are 671 results at this google search.

Now that I've given you almost 700 links specifically devoted to this exact question, please do some reading.

You can thank me later, for providing the information to you. Oh, and BTW... if they can't provide proof as you demanded, than... you may be in very good shape. :)

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-17   17:39:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Capitalist Eric, war, lucysmom (#4)

Court rulings here in Michigan and now being confirmed in federal courts have opened the foreclosure floodgates. Houses in our own neighborhood that no one had a clue were in trouble are now turning up vacated.

Related article:

MERS Has Right To Foreclose, 10Th Circuit Holds

Building on a string of victories in the state courts, Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems, Inc. (MERS), the national mortgage nominee, has now won a ruling from a federal appeals court that upholds its right to foreclose.    

In a www.ballardspahr.com/Aler...ichigan_Court_Rules.aspx" target="_blank">previous legal alert, we noted that trial judges have consistently rejected claims by borrowers that MERS doesn’t enjoy the same legal right to foreclose as a lender. With decisions from state appellate courts in California, Utah and Michigan, we reported that the trend was starting to solidify.

Now, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals has declared that MERS must be granted the right to foreclose. The December 23 opinion comes in a consolidated appeal of three decisions by federal judges in Utah that rejected all of the borrowers’ arguments to the contrary.

In www.ballardspahr.com/aler..._Ruling_10thCircuit.ashx" target="_blank">Commonwealth Property Advocates LLC v. MERS, the 10th Circuit held that “by the clear language of the deeds of trust, MERS has the authority to foreclose and sell the property on behalf of both the original lender and the ‘lender’s successors.’”

The 10th Circuit panel relied heavily on a decision from the Utah Court of Appeals in which Ballard Spahr had successfully represented the defendants.

The borrowers pointed to a Utah statute to argue that MERS lacked authority under state law to foreclose. But the 10th Circuit flatly rejected the argument. “The statute merely says the transfer of a debt operates as the transfer of the security,” U.S. Circuit Judge Bobby R. Baldock wrote for the unanimous three-judge panel. “It says nothing about who is or is not authorized to foreclose on a trust deed.”

Judge Baldock noted that the Utah Court of Appeals reached an identical conclusion when it held that “the Deed of Trust explicitly gave MERS the right to foreclose on behalf of ‘Lender and Lender’s successors and assigns.’”

www.lexology.com/library/...4f-4c5e-b919-cf4ba6e3a5d4

Brian S  posted on  2012-01-17   18:20:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Brian S, Capitalist Eric (#5)

The borrowers pointed to a Utah statute to argue that MERS lacked authority under state law to foreclose. But the 10th Circuit flatly rejected the argument. “The statute merely says the transfer of a debt operates as the transfer of the security,” U.S. Circuit Judge Bobby R. Baldock wrote for the unanimous three-judge panel. “It says nothing about who is or is not authorized to foreclose on a trust deed.”

So, what do you think Eric?

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