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Title: Ohio woman loses appeal on "White Only" pool sign
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Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012 ... ion-pool-idUSTRE80B24120120112
Published: Jan 12, 2012
Author: Kim Palmer
Post Date: 2012-01-12 21:46:21 by A K A Stone
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Views: 20922
Comments: 52
(Reuters) - A Cincinnati landlord found to have violated state anti-discrimination laws after she hung a "white only" sign outside her swimming pool lost an appeal with the Ohio Civil Rights Commission on Thursday. The ruling clears the way for the case to be referred to the state attorney general's office for possible state civil charges and the possibility of being forced to pay compensatory and punitive damages. The commission ruled the sign, which read "Public Swimming Pool, White Only," violated state housing discrimination laws, and dismissed landlord Jamie Hein's claim that it was simply a decorative antique. The commission's ruling followed a complaint by Michael Gunn, a former tenant who brought his 10-year-old biracial daughter to a Memorial Day weekend pool party on Hein's property attended by about 20 other guests. Gunn said Hein later questioned him about the "chemicals" his daughter used in her hair and blamed the girl, the only non-Caucasian at the party, for making the pool water "cloudy." Gunn told the commission that about a week later he saw the "white only" sign on the gate leading to the pool. He said he and his fiancé decided to move away immediately so "as not to expose my daughter to the sign and humiliation." As part of the commission's investigation, Gunn produced copies of texts he said Hein had sent to his fiancé shortly after the family moved out, blaming "grease" in his daughter's hair for the cloudy condition of the pool. After an investigation into the allegations and "informal efforts to resolve the case," the Civil Rights Commission ruled in September that Hein had violated the law. Hein requested an appeal after the initial findings but neither she nor her attorney attended the hearing on Thursday.
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
What is wrong with these people in Ohio?
I'm glad she is being taken to task for her bullshit.
She has every right to hang that sign on her fence. If not get rid of the negro college fund. Get rid of restarted Black history month it isn't needed or wanted. You are a hypocrite.
Again you prove that you don't like the constitution. Why do you hate free speech and the right to associate with who you want to?
If it's a public pool,you have to allow the public access to it. You don't get to pick and choose.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
sign outside her swimming pool
Yes,she does. What she DOESN'T have the right to do is to try and enforce it. It is not HER private pool. It is a pool that was installed for the use of tenants on rental property she owns,which means it she can NOT discriminate against the tenents who are most likely on some sort of government aid and she is receiving government money for the rent. Now,if it weren't on some sort of government housing list and receiving tax breaks and government grants to build,maintain,and run the rental property she would have the right to discriminate against any damn body she wanted to discriminate against. When you take Uncle Sugar's money,you have to play by Uncle Sugar's rules. If not get rid of the negro college fund. Get rid of restarted Black history month it isn't needed or wanted. No argument there. It is nothing but giving preference to a specific group of people while discriminating against the others. Which is fine if it is private,but a no-no when any level of government gets involved in picking sides.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
If you want to discriminate against renters and their guests,don't take government money,vouchers,or tax breaks to run your business (rental property). If you build rental property using government grants and tax breaks,and then rent it to people who are receiving government aid money,don't come bitching and looking for sympathy when that same public wants to use the facilities.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
The sign even states it is a public pool. She doesn't have a leg to stand on.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Actually she does have that right. The commie government just doesn't recognize that right.
What is stupid is to go to court over this. If they didn't like the sign they should have just ripped it off one night. I doubt it would have been replaced. I mean where do you go to buy signs like that anyway?
Your sense of freedom is non existent. You are not free to limit the freedom of others. You'll never get that, Commissar.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Then, to be fair, you'd have to do away with all scholarships offered by special interests.
Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1 We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul
You mean there would be no more scholarships offered by the FFA or the local bowling league?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Nor for left-handed people.
Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1 We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul
She has no right to be a bigot picking on people for an arbitrary issue such as the color of their skin. She should judge people by the content of their character and not on a characteristic that has little to do with anything. So you like vicious bigots. Some alleged Christian you supposedly are. You are wrong, and your hatefulness and irrational intolerance runs fully contrary to the values of the U.S. Constitution and all rulings on it by the SCOTUS under our system of justic and it's process of Stare decisis. Being dumb, unwilling to learn and be a rational thinker is no way to go through life Stone. Wake the heck up and join the rest of decent humanity. Your irratinal hatred and lack of Christian decency is stinking up the place.
He does not get the concept that freedom comes with the responsibility to uphold basic truths of human decency and justice. TRhe Constitution protects people from the whims and caprice of school yard grade bullies who would judge people by color and not the content of their character and how well they comport themselves through life. As I told him before, his lack of attention span and patience needed to learn basic truths. From the Declaration of Independence: Over time, SCOTUS rulings have brought us more into line with these sacred words by the immortal Thomas Jefferson, compared to whom Stone comes across as an illiterate goober who feels his job is to go through life as banal and vicious in nature as -people like Stalin, Hitler or a bigoted and hateful President like Woodrow Wilson.
What a dumb statment you made. I think i am going to come over to your house tonight. Do you have a Big Screen TV. I am going to exercise my freedom to take it. You are the commie.
Actually she does. It is called private property and freedom of speech. You would be correct if you said that was mean. But it is certainly within her rights.
Satanists have no business calling anyone bigots. I am not a bigot. I'm just pointing out the truth that she should be to do what she wants with her own property. Ok DUMB ASS!
Then why did you vote for Obama the one who loves killing foreigners and American babies. They guy you voted for is a sicko.
You voted for a known baby killer. Lots of red blood on your hands.
Then, to be fair, you'd have to do away with all scholarships offered by special interests. Actally I am being fair. Let the people keep the college funds of their choice. If someone doesn't want to hire a faggot they don't have to. If some basketball wants to discriminate and hire mostly blacks. Let them do that. If some old lady doesn't want anyone but whites in her swimming pool that she paid for she is free to do that. And you are free to call her a bigot. But don't call me one for supporting everyone's freedom.
That would be the good thing to do. But she doesn't have to do that. Just like sparrows don't have to live with hawks.
Are you insinuating that McCain never voted to fund abortions?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Again underscoring that you don't understand very much...in this case, the difference between public and private. I don't have a sign on my TV stating "PUBLIC VIEWING"...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
The lady may be a bitch. But that is no reason to deny anyone private property rights. If a black man owned it and put up a sign that said no whites. That would be within his rights too.
So much for your "private property" bullshit...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
This is from the article. "she hung a "white only" sign outside her swimming pool" She owns it.
Did you read the entire article? "white rights" are the same as "black rights". You can't restrict access. That is NOT an exercise of freedom. It's a restriction of it. As I said, you have no sense of anything. Quick: Tell me Obama is for abortion.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Freedom would mean you can do what you wish with your property. You are free to be an asshole or a bitch too. I wouldn't do that. But it is within a persons rights. Not letting someone do something on your property that you lawfully own in no way infringes on others freedom.
Yes they are and should be.
I wouldn't do that. But it is within a persons rights. Not letting someone do something on your property that you lawfully own in no way infringes on others freedom. Almost all private property has a public egress of one form or another. Or do you want to become landlocked like many of my English ancestors.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Not when the pool is public.
Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1 We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul
She owns it. If I owned the lot next to your home should I be able to have a pig farm on MY private property?
Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1 We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul
When a venue is public you cannot discriminate. According to you, we should go back to the day when people could not find a motel, restaurant or other commercial establishment because of bigotry and hatred that had no bearing in fact. Get your head out of you know were, Stone. Life is too short to go through it as vicariously ignorant as you seem to like to live it.
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From now on, any thread you start is on ignore. I don't have time for your anal retentive childishness.
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If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
I love irony. Now, rat-boy, get back to your toilet-cleaning job.
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#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)
#3. To: Ferret Mike, Fred Mertz (#2)
I'm glad she is being taken to task for her bullshit.
#4. To: Ferret Mike (#2)
I'm glad she is being taken to task for her bullshit.
#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#6. To: sneakypete (#5)
If it's a public pool,you have to allow the public access to it. You don't get to pick and choose.
#7. To: A K A Stone (#3)
She has every right to hang that sign on her fence.
#8. To: A K A Stone (#4)
Why do you hate free speech and the right to associate with who you want to?
#9. To: A K A Stone (#6)
sign outside her swimming pool
#10. To: sneakypete (#7)
What she DOESN'T have the right to do is to try and enforce it.
#11. To: sneakypete (#9)
#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)
#13. To: A K A Stone (#3)
If not get rid of the negro college fund.
#14. To: lucysmom (#13)
Then, to be fair, you'd have to do away with all scholarships offered by special interests.
#15. To: mininggold (#14)
You mean there would be no more scholarships offered by the FFA or the local bowling league?
#16. To: A K A Stone (#4)
#17. To: war (#12)
"Your sense of freedom is non existent. You are not free to limit the freedom of others."
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
#18. To: war (#12)
Your sense of freedom is non existent. You are not free to limit the freedom of others.
#19. To: Ferret Mike (#16)
She has no right to be a bigot picking on people for an arbitrary issue such as the color of their skin.
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#16)
So you like vicious bigots. Some alleged Christian you supposedly are.
#21. To: Ferret Mike (#17)
He does not get the concept that freedom comes with the responsibility to uphold basic truths of human decency and justice.
#22. To: Ferret Mike (#17)
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like Stalin, Hitler or a bigoted and hateful President like Woodrow Wilson.
#23. To: lucysmom (#13)
If not get rid of the negro college fund.
#24. To: Ferret Mike (#16)
She should judge people by the content of their character and not on a characteristic that has little to do with anything.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#21)
Then why did you vote for Obama the one who loves killing foreigners and American babies. They guy you voted for is a sicko.
#26. To: A K A Stone (#18)
#27. To: war (#26)
Again underscoring that you don't understand very much...in this case, the difference between public and private.
#28. To: A K A Stone (#19)
Actually she does. It is called private property and freedom of speech.
#29. To: war (#28)
#30. To: A K A Stone (#29)
#31. To: war (#30)
. You can't restrict access. That is NOT an exercise of freedom. It's a restriction of it.
#32. To: war (#30)
"white rights" are the same as "black rights"
#33. To: A K A Stone (#31)
Freedom would mean you can do what you wish with your property. You are free to be an asshole or a bitch too.
#34. To: A K A Stone (#23)
If some old lady doesn't want anyone but whites in her swimming pool that she paid for she is free to do that.
#35. To: A K A Stone (#29)
"she hung a "white only" sign outside her swimming pool"
#36. To: A K A Stone (#31)
"Not letting someone do something on your property that you lawfully own in no way infringes on others freedom."
#37. To: Ferret Mike (#36)
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#38. To: A K A Stone (#18)
#39. To: Ferret Mike (#38)
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#40. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#38)
From now on, any thread you start is on ignore. I don't have time for your anal retentive childishness.
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