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Title: Obama defies Senate, appointing consumer, labor officials
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URL Source: http://www.thesunnews.com/2012/01/0 ... a-make-recess-appointment.html
Published: Jan 4, 2012
Author: Lesley Clark and Tony Pugh
Post Date: 2012-01-04 23:22:22 by Mad Dog
Keywords: IMPEACH, this, INSANE COMMIE monster
Views: 135712
Comments: 237

WASHINGTON — A defiant President Barack Obama sidestepped Congress on Wednesday and appointed a new consumer watchdog, locking horns with Republicans, who immediately accused the president of exceeding his authority to appoint a director to an agency they oppose.

Speaking at a high school in the election battleground state of Ohio with his nominee for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau by his side, Obama struck a populist tone and blamed congressional Republicans for stalling the appointment of former Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray as “America’s consumer watchdog.”

“I’ve got an obligation to act on behalf of the American people,” the president said. “And I’m not going to stand by while a minority in the Senate puts party ideology ahead of the people that we were elected to serve.”

Obama defies Senate, appoints consumer and labor officials Obama defies Senate, appoints consumer and labor officials A defiant President Barack Obama sidestepped Congress on Wednesday and appointed a new consumer watchdog, locking horns with Republicans, who immediately accused the president of exceeding his authority to appoint a director to an agency they oppose.

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau opens Consumer Financial Protection Bureau opens The most tangible government reform to grow out of the Great Recession officially goes live this week when the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau assumes its regulatory authority on Thursday. Ex-Ohio attorney general picked to lead consumer finance watchdog agency Ex- Ohio attorney general picked to lead consumer finance watchdog agency President Barack Obama will nominate Richard Cordray, who as Ohio's attorney general was a leader in state policing of financial industry abuses, to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that formally opens its doors this week, the White House said Sunday.

Stirring up a fight, Obama names consumer watchdog Stirring up a fight, Obama names consumer watchdog Defying Republican lawmakers,

President Barack Obama on Wednesday barreled by the Senate and installed a national consumer watchdog on his own, provoking GOP threats of a constitutional showdown in the courts.

Setting a fierce tone in the election-year fight for middle-class voters, Obama said: "I refuse to take 'no' for an answer."

Senate Republicans block Obama nominee to head consumer finance agency Senate Republicans block Obama nominee to head consumer finance agency As expected, Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked a confirmation vote on President Barack Obama's choice to lead the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Hours later, the White House announced that Obama also had appointed three members to the National Labor Relations Board, in defiance of Senate Republicans.

In Ohio, the president noted that he'd nominated Cordray last summer to serve as a beat cop against deceptive, abusive and predatory loan products in the financial marketplace, but that Senate Republicans had blocked the appointment, not because Cordray was unqualified, but because “they don’t agree with the law that set up a consumer watchdog in the first place,” he said.

Senate Republicans have made clear that is, indeed, their motive.“They want to weaken the law. They want to water it down,” Obama said, adding that, “by the way, a lot of folks in the financial industry have poured millions of dollars to try to water it down.”

Senate Republicans blocked a confirmation vote on Cordray last month and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky accused Obama on Wednesday of making an unprecedented appointment, because the Senate isn't in official recess.

Traditionally, McConnell said, presidents make such appointments only when the Senate is in recess for 10 days or longer.

Obama has “arrogantly circumvented the American people,” McConnell said, adding that the move “lands this appointee in uncertain legal territory, threatens the confirmation process and fundamentally endangers the Congress’ role in providing a check on the excesses of the executive branch.

”He said that Republicans wanted structural changes to the agency, which was “subject to none of the checks that independent agencies normally operate under.”White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer accused Senate Republicans of coming up with a “gimmick” to prevent the president from exercising his recess appointment authority: being out of town for weeks but convening every few days in a “pro forma” session.Sarah Binder, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a center-left policy-research center, said the Constitution “doesn’t define what constitutes a valid recess for the purpose of the president’s proper exercise of the recess appointment power, leaving it open to interpretation.

”She said that in the most recent court case on the matter _ when the late Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., challenged the recess appointment of William Pryor to an appeals court by President George W. Bush _ the administration’s right to make a recess appointment on the seventh day of a 10-day intra-session recess was upheld.

The back and forth over Cordray underscores the partisan fighting that's characterized every development of the new consumer protection bureau, the most tangible government response to the nation's 2008 economic meltdown.

After failing last month to get the 60 votes needed for a straight up-or-down Senate confirmation vote on Cordray, Obama hinted that he might use a recess appointment to bypass the GOP filibuster that's left the new agency without a director since its regulatory authority began in July.

At the time, the president also voiced frustration over GOP efforts to delay his many other nominations, including federal judges and assistant treasury secretaries. Senate Republicans also have blocked appointments to the National Labor Relations Board; Obama appointed three members Wednesday.

The NLRB appointments allow the board to decide cases again. That authority was lost earlier this week when the five-member panel was down to only two members and was unable to field a quorum. Kimberly Freeman Brown, the executive director of American Rights at Work, commended the president’s NLRB appointments.“Without a functioning board, employers and employees alike would have been stuck in legal limbo on a range of critical issues, including the rights of certain workers to form unions and the appropriate use of social media to discuss workplace concerns,” Brown said.Created by the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial overhaul law, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau monitors deceptive, abusive and predatory loan products in the financial marketplace.

A division of the Federal Reserve,

the bureau works as a stand-alone agency to make sure consumers understand the terms of loan products by reducing fine print, simplifying forms and helping to illuminate costly penalties and fees that often are hidden.Senate Republicans see the bureau as a vast overreach of government authority and have blocked any nominee for director until the agency's structure is revamped.

Without a director, the bureau could examine and oversee large banks, but it couldn't oversee non-depository institutions such as mortgage companies, payday lenders and credit bureaus.The U.S. Chamber of Commerce decried Obama’s move as “unprecedented, constitutionally questionable” and said it put the authority of the director and the bureau’s work “in legal jeopardy.”

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#1. To: All (#0)

.

This INSANE COMMIE monster MUST be DEFEATED.

He has made a direct challenge to the US CONSTITUTION right here,

Hey but what de F! eh gurls?

RONNIEPAULIERONNIEPAULIERONNIEPAULIERONNIEPAULIERONNIEPAULIERONNIEPAULIERONNIEP AULIERONNIEPAULIE

RIGHT?

BUT fill in dotted line repukelican't candidate for President did fill in dotted line is fill in dotted line right?

F' the active disassembly of OUR RULE OF LAW every instant of this ILLEGAL regime, what's important is fill in dotted line.

Right?

Are you PHUCKING people INSANE?

IMPEACH THIS INSANE COMMIE MONSTER YESTERDAY.

This is NOT a PHUCKING drill.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-04   23:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mad Dog, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0)


"The constitution's just a God damned piece of paper" ~George W. Bush


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-01-05   0:07:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#2)

.

Don't you like your President who YOUR vote help elect CULT boy? especially wearing the CMH?

Only ignorant, lazy, shallow "thinker" FOOLS believe that "the two parties are the same".

I'm waiting for the repukelican't messiah "king" obammy.

Oh yeah "it was all de ebil BOOOOOOSH'S fault", right you CULT boy moron?

EVERY vote that RonniePaulie takes in his coming third party run will be a vote FOR the messiah "king" obammy.

F' ing CULTIST IDIOTS.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-05   1:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Mad Dog (#3)

F' ing CULTIST IDIOTS.

You are talking about the Republican Party People,of course. The ones that elected and miss the Bush Crime Family that helped hire the current denizen living in the WH.

After all,the definition of insanity is when you keep doing the same thing and keep expecting different results.

Which is what you do when you keep voting for the usual suspects. Last time the Party People fell in line behind John McLunatic as the "conservative savior". I have no doubt you will do the same this time for Romney.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-05   6:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mad Dog (#0)

Obama defies the GOP minority in the Senate, appointing consumer, labor officials

FIXED.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-05   7:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#5)

Obama defies the GOP minority in the Senate, appointing consumer, labor officials

FIXED.

Time for an honesty test war.

Was this unconstitutional?

a. Yes it is. You are not informed or you are a liar, which is it? b. No it isn't. you are not a liar and you are informed.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-05   9:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Mad Dog (#3)

"the two parties are the same".

Yes, that's true...you're glorious saviour in the republican party will do NOTHING about any of these issue...not ONE thing.

1) is the TSA going to be dismantled

2) the IRS going to be phased out

3) the Federal Reserve phased out

4) unconstitutional agencies abolished

5) these fake wars ended

6) NDAA repealed

7) Patriot Act repealed

8) 1 Trillion in spending cut the first year

9) Obamacare repealed

The ONLY one even talking about these issues is Paul. The fact YOU don't see that BOTH parties are own by the global interests doesn't mean others don't see it. Bush, with his open borders, Patriot act, free trade the Constitution is "just a GD piece of paper", was just as bad as Obama...the difference is the can has been kicked farther down the road and the blatant acts of treason that go with it. Educate yourself and stop acting like a fool...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-05   10:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#6) (Edited)

It was not unconstitutional. The US Congress is in recess until January 17th.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-05   10:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#5)

.

As usual you simpering libTURD whore, you get it wrong. Nobody disputes that recess appointments are legal.

The point is whore, is that the SENATE is in PRO FORMA SESSION RIGHT PHUCKING NOW YOU vile shit stain on the face of AMERICA.

In other words you steaming pile of shit, YOUR messiah has declared the senate to be in recess when it is NOT.

In other words you steaming pile of shit, YOUR messiah has complete CONTEMPT for the rule of LAW and the US CONSTITUTION.

YOU ARE wannabe tyrannical FILTH.

What makes you think that I give a F' what YOU have to say you LYING piece of anti- CONSTITUTIONAL shit?

In fact you repulsive puss filled shit bag, put me on ignore and don't ever address your filth to me ever again you simpering little bitch.

Save your LIES for the weak minded libTURDS who infest this nation punk.

Eat Sh!t and DIE.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-05   18:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#4)

F' ing CULTIST IDIOTS. You are talking about the Republican Party People,of course. The ones that elected and miss the Bush Crime Family that helped hire the current denizen living in the WH.

After all,the definition of insanity is when you keep doing the same thing and keep expecting different results.

Which is what you do when you keep voting for the usual suspects. Last time the Party People fell in line behind John McLunatic as the "conservative savior". I have no doubt you will do the same this time for Romney.

Yep petey I was and AM talking about CULTIST fools such as YOU.

You absurd gibbering CULTIST simpleton

The F' ing SHIP HAS HIT THE ICEBERG OBAMMY and you gibbering CULTIST simpletons are running around pointing fingers at people long GONE from the scene. Searching to pin the BLAME on them.

ALL that you F' ing gibbering CULTIST gerbils are doing is rearranging the deck chairs on the TITANTIC.

You are pitiful, and YOU are helping obammy et. al. to MURDER AMERICA.

I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, YOU are supposed to know better.

FOOL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-05   18:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: freedomsnotfree (#7)

"the two parties are the same".

Yes, that's true...you're glorious saviour in the republican party will do NOTHING about any of these issue...not ONE thing.

The ONLY one even talking about these issues is Paul. The fact YOU don't see that BOTH parties are own by the global interests doesn't mean others don't see it. Bush, with his open borders, Patriot act, free trade the Constitution is "just a GD piece of paper", was just as bad as Obama...the difference is the can has been kicked farther down the road and the blatant acts of treason that go with it. Educate yourself and stop acting like a fool...

LOL!

First, you gibbering CULTIST azzwipe, "you're" is a contraction of YOU ARE. You make absolutely ZERO sense CULT boy. Which is SOP for you paulTARDS azzwipes.

Second, you gibbering CULTIST azzwipe, you need to educate yourself and stop acting like a FOOL

..........................................................................

Why ron paul has ZERO chance to win the republican presidential primary

Posted by mikeymike143 (Diary)

1. His foreign policy ideas are simply the same recycled bad ideas that Jimmy Carter had. A foreign policy of ”let’s hide our head in the sand like an ostrich and blame big bad America and hope that everyone leaves us alone” is not only ignorant, but also dangerous for our country. And the big winners in last November’s elections were the ones who espoused ”american exceptionalism”, not the ones who espoused ”anti-american apologism”. Now I will admit Ron Paul’s foreign policy message would go over well with the Code Pink/Dennis Kucinich voters, but those type of people tend to be Democrats, not Republicans. One of my facebook friends put it best when he said ”if Ron Paul had been president during World War 2, we would all be speaking German now”.

2. He has no real political power. And this was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in 2008. Yes, he can win any ONLINE presidential poll. So what. In 2007 the paulbots hijacked the same online polls and Ron Paul won them all. His followers then posed articles all over the internet touting his candidacy. He then suckered his gullible followers telling them that the ”polls showed he could win” and send to him money. Then came the 2008 primaries. Out of the 50 states that were availible for Ron Paul to win, guess how many he won? ZERO. And that is spelled Z-E-R-O. Now let’s go to the present day. His internet saavy paulbots are again winning all the online and straw polls for their idol. His followers are again posting articles about him like he actually has a legitimate chance to win. Next is going to come the annual ”moneybomb” when Ron Paul once again fleeces his followers by pointing out that he is ahead in the polls and has a chance to win this time. But their delusional fantasy is going to run into a buzzsaw called Republican primary voters. Paul got absolutely destroyed when he ran in 1988, got whipped by John McCain in 2008, and he will be a three time loser in 2012.

3. There are plenty of people who are ”one issue voters” in politics. And in the Republican party there are plenty of people that ”opposition to islam” is the one issue they feel strongly about. You can go to any anti islam or conservative jewish site and see that the two politicians that are diliked the most are Obama and Ron Paul. Ron Paul has said ”I don’t believe for one minute the religion of islam is our enemy”. And Paul also attacked the Sunshine Patriots for their oppostion to the ground zero mosque. Now i am not going to debate the muslim issue here, but the fact that a decent sized voting group in your own party considers you one of their main foes is certainly not good news for your campaign. Now to be fair, you will get the people who think Israel is oppressing Palestine and the pro muslim agenda voters will be on Paul’s side. The only problem with that is almost all of that crowd are Democrats who support Obama.

4. Let’s look at Ron Paul’s position on crack cocaine and heroin. Now I am totally fine with legalizing pot and prostitution in any state if the voters want it. If somebody wants to get laid or smoke a joint it sure isn’t any of my business. But we are talking about legalizing hard drugs because Ron Paul says that the government is unconstitutionally sticking its nose in peoples business by not allowing it. I say once it becomes legal, who is going to cover the costs of the people that get addicted to it to go to rehab or treatment centers. And please don’t say the addict. Probably the government will have to. Great, now here comes a great big expansion of government to fight the drug war that was ”caused by the tea party candidate”. Which by the way, I as a taxpayer will have to cover. Increased police and court costs etc, etc. But the issue isn’t what I think or Ron Paul thinks, the issue is what does the Republican primary voter think of this policy. The ”religious right” will certainly oppose it full force. And I would think that anyone that has had a family member suffer through the addiction process will be opposed to it. That’s two groups opposed. Of course, Paul will pick up the ”left wing hippie” vote and the anarchists vote. Except the left wing hippies are already card carrying members of the Democratic party. And all the anarchists who want to overthrow big bad America are already his supporters.

5. If he were alive today, Ronald Reagan would strongly oppose him. Reagan believed in spending generously on our national defense and certainly had an interventionist foreign policy. And according to the Ron Paul playbook, that would make the greatest president of my era ”a neocon”. Their policies and beliefs are totally and completely different. Naturally Ron Paul’s followers will attempt to hide that fact by showing you an old video of Ronald Reagan praising Ron Paul as a candidate and using that as proof that Ronald Reagan would support Ron Paul in 2012. Now watch me dismantle that silly argument!!! Does anyone remember Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania? Arlen was the senator that everyone on tea party and conservative sites called a liberal RINO. He was challenged by a tea party backed conservative in the primary named Pat Toomey and when Specter saw how opposed conservatives were to his candidacy he changed parties to Democrat. He voted for TARP, Obama’s socialized health care plan, and was pro affirmative action and amnesty. Yet, Reagan praised him as a true conservative back in the 198082;s and even cut a campaign ad for him. But go ask a Pennsylvania tea partier what they think of Specter today. LOL. If you were a House or Senate member, and of course running as a Republican, Ronald Reagan would praise you as a candidate for office. That’s part of what a sitting president does for members of his party.

But rather than look at a 30 year old video let’s look at Ron Paul has to say about Ronald Reagan. In 1987, Ron Paul wrote a letter to Frank Fahrenkopf, chairman of the Republican National Committee, starting that he wanted to totally publically disassociate himself with the policies of Ronald Reagan(funny but he yet to publically disassociate with the 9-11 truther movement or Code Pink). He later told the Dallas Morning News that the presidency of Ronald Reagan was a ”dramatic failure”. OK, let’s take a look at the political success of both politicians and decide if that is true. In 2008 Ron Paul ran in the Republican primary for president. He got 5% of the vote. In other words, 19 OUT OF 20 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY VOTERS DID NOT VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE LAST ELECTION. In 1984, Ronald Reagan was reelected as the president of the United States in a landslide, winning 49 out of 50 states, and his 525 electoral votes were the the most of any candidate in American history. Hmmm, I think we have to score this one for the Gipper.

6. Illegal Immigration. According to the highly respected anti immigation group NUMBERS USA, Ron Paul has the lowest grade of any Republican presidential candidate out there, coming in with an F. Naturally, his paulbots try to put a spin on this by saying ”welfare and benefit programs should be unconsititutional so illegal immigrants wont come here”. If Ron Paul threw puppies off a tall building his hynoptized followers would be applauding and yelling it was ”constitutional”. That argument wont cut it with the voters. Polls overwhelmingly show that Americans are in favor of closing our borders and against all forms of amnesty. And that really holds true with Republican voters. April has posted articles by former Ron Paul allies like Tom Tancrdeo that blast Paul on the immigration issue. Yet again, Ron Paul thinks like a liberal Democrat, and in fact even has the same ”F” grade that NUMBERS USA gave Obama.

7. Paul’s pork problem. One thing career politicians learn to do is talk conservative while picking the taxpayers pocket for money. And ”Porkulus Paul” has this shady routine down pat. First of all, let’s go back to last November’s elections to get the proper perspective on this issue. The Republicans destroyed the Democrats on November 3 due to the energy and votes of the tea party!!!!! Now the tea party came in and deservedly wanted to flex it muscles. And decided to take a principled stand against the unethical practice of pork(earmarks). The fight against earmarks was led by the Tea Party Patriots(TPP) and other tea party and conservative groups against the pork loving Democrats. In fact, TPP leader Mark Meckler considered this such an important issue that he promised to run a tea party challenger against any Republican that accepted them.

“We’ll do what we always do,” said Meckler. “Our members will put immense pressure on every senator to vote against earmarks. This is a fundamental issue — it’s both substantive and symbolic. Will they vote against the politics of the past or are they still stuck in it? This is a vote that will never go away, like TARP. Tea Partiers have long memories. Politicians have always taken advantage of the fact that voters have short memories, but we’ll know, we’ll remember, and in 2012 when they have aggressive, well-funded primary challengers, they’ll know why.”

Then it came out that a Republican asked for 150 MILLION DOLLARS IN PORK FOR HIS DISTRICT!!! Surely this was a RINO. Maybe Olympia Snowe or Scott Brown? No, it was actually Ron Paul.

U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) was one of only four House Republicans to break rank from the party and request earmarks despite a Republican Conference earmark moratorium. Paul sent 41 earmark requests totaling $157,093,544 for the 2011 Fiscal Year.

Ron Paul is to the far left of the tea party on just about every major issue. Actually he looks just like a liberal Democrat to me.

SAY NO TO THE FAR LEFT TURN, STAY RIGHT. NO PAUL IN 2012.

................................................................................

You stupid simpering CULT boy FOOL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-05   19:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mad Dog (#9) (Edited)

The point is whore, is that the SENATE is in PRO FORMA SESSION RIGHT PHUCKING NOW YOU vile shit stain on the face of AMERICA.

Under the rules of both chambers, the Senate and the House must be gaveled back into session - which requires a quorum (51 in the Senate) - after they have been gaveled into adjournment. The Senate was gaveled into adjournment on 12/20/11.

A "pro forma" session may be held absent an adjournment. Simply showing up and declaring a "pro forma" session does not make it so. In 2007 and 2008, when the Senate held pro forma sessions, Harry Reid refused to gavel the Senate into adjourment and thus was able to hold pro forma sessions. Furthermore, the MINORITY party has NO POWER under the rules to declare any session...be it regular or pro forma.

As usual, someone's cock got in your way of reality...thus your distraction.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-05   19:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Mad Dog (#10)

You are pitiful, and YOU are helping obammy et. al. to MURDER AMERICA.

I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, YOU are supposed to know better.

FOOL.

Blah,blah,insane bullshit,blah.

Tell us Buckwheat,how is voting for the lesser of two evils been working out for you since Reagan left office?

Notice much change for the better?

Ever caddy for Bubba Bill Bush and Poppy Bush?

Notice how the country really swung to the right after Bob Dolt and John McLunatic ran as Clinton-Lite?

And you wouldn't piss on me because you probably can't piss without getting your fingers wet.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-05   19:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Mad Dog (#9)

Your mother should be ashamed of herself for giving birth to you,pussy-boy.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-05   20:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mad Dog (#11)

How many times do you think you need to post that idiotic mikeymike thing?

We The People  posted on  2012-01-05   20:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#8)

It was not unconstitutional. The US Congress is in recess until January 17th.

You are so full of shit war.

The office isn't even constitutional.

Go ahead and show me constitutional authorization for the federal government for this "office".

You can't but I'm sure you will make something up. You're good at making stuff up and spinning.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-05   21:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#13)

Can I have the complete list of Republicans you would vote for against Obama? The ones that are running.

Thanks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-06   0:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Can I have the complete list of Republicans you would vote for against Obama? The ones that are running.

Thanks.

Of course,

Ron Paul.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-06   7:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#16) (Edited)

You are so full of shit war.

I posted the 2012 session calendar that is released by...the US CONGRESS. Do you see any order of business prior to that date?

The office isn't even constitutional.

It was created by an act of Congress under the explcit powers enumertated in the USCON to create departments of the US government.

Article II Section II:

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

As was pointed out previsouly, the only "office" that is created in the USCON outside of the three branches of government is the USPS.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-06   7:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#18)

Of course,

Ron Paul.

I thought that would be your answer.

I'm not really sure. I prefer Ron Paul.

But if someone else gets it. I may vote for them. My hatred for Obama is very deep.

Time will tell.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-06   10:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#19)

Not all acts congress passes are constitutional.

There is no delegated authority for that office. You know that. But you are quite good at taking one word and spinning and running with it. It is what you are.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-06   10:08:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#21)

There is no delegated authority for that office.

You use a lot of words without apparently having any clue as to what they mean.

The "authority for that office" was "delegated" by an act of Congress in a piece of legislation known as "The Dodd Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protyection Act in which the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) was created. Intended to be a stand alone bureau, the department was operated under the auspices of the US Treasury Department until an independent head was to be appointed.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-06   10:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Mad Dog, A K A Stone, hondo68, freedomsnotfree, (#3) (Edited)

Only ignorant, lazy, shallow "thinker" FOOLS believe that "the two parties are the same".

The False Left-Right Paradigm and the Deception of the American People

The truth is, there is no right or left. There is only right and wrong, freedom or tyranny.

The party bosses and ardent followers would have you believe otherwise. They would have you believe that right is whatever particular party they belong to, and wrong is the political opposition. This might be true if the sides of today were genuine.

Instead, both parties and most mainstream organizations funnel into the same end result: total control. While the left and right bicker publicly on "hot topics", the end result is the same, regardless of who is President, or who is in control of Congress.

Less freedoms for individuals, less sovereignty for nations, losses of jobs through insane international agreements like NAFTA, the dilution of American culture, and the over extension of our military.

It's been said that if you don't like what the Republicans are doing, vote for the Democrats, and if you don't like what Democrats are doing, vote Republican.

It's set up like a game. I have my favorite team, and you have yours. I'll back my team no matter what, just as long as your team doesn't win.

The problem is, both teams are full of scandalous figures who are so busy selling you and I out for their own personal gain, they have no time or desire to help our country in this time of need.

While we Americans are busy cheering our favorite politicos and jeering our least favorites, both sides are pursuing the policy of the destruction of America.

EVERY vote that RonniePaulie takes in his coming third party run will be a vote FOR the messiah "king" obammy.

You know what? I am NOT voting for another big-government LIBERAL Republican.

I'll vote third party if Congressman Paul does not get the nomination.

NO ONE else owns my vote, not you, not the RNC.

I'm disgusted with bleating sheep like you who don't have the balls to take a stand and support an honest, principled candidate who is head and shoulders above the rest and is not a shill for the New World Order.

Poster comment :

How many of the other so-called conservative candidates have spoken out about TSA abuses?

The PATRIOT Act?

How about the recently enacted National Defense Authorization Act?

Has anyone besides Ron Paul stood against this abomination? Romney HASN"T EVEN READ IT!

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2012-01-06   11:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard (#23)

..spot on my fellow lover of freedom and liberty...spot on.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-06   11:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Mad Dog (#11)

poor, blind MD...still trying to convince everyone the earth is flat. Hopefully the blinders will come off as you mature...until then, you're rants are cheap entertainment...thanks

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-06   11:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#14)

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You have my mother confused with your mother you vile piece of shit.

BUT, that's you foul PaulTARD'S CULTIST'S SOP isn't it little "man"?

You go against my family because I don't like RP?

You aren't a little "man" petey, you are a vile little CUNT.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-06   16:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: We The People (#15)

How many times do you think you need to post that idiotic mikeymike thing?

How many times should the TRUTH be posted?

There is no upper limit CULT boy.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-06   16:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Deckard (#23)

I'm disgusted with bleating sheep like you who don't have the balls to take a stand and support an honest, principled candidate who is head and shoulders above the rest and is not a shill for the New World Order.

LOL!

Your ignorance is invincible CULT boy.

You pin headed CULTISTS really do think that you have discovered THE super DECODER ring of the US CONSTITUTION don't you?

You actually believe that you have some "special" secret gnostic KNOWLEDGE, that the rest of us AMERICANS, (especially we CONSERVATIVES who despise your wee FRAUD hero), don't have!

After all, you PaulTARDS are "SPECIAL"!

Right CULT boy?

LMAO!

CULTIST IDIOTS.

Gibber on loser.

RP will NEVER be President and every vote for his coming third party run is a vote FOR the messiah "king" obammy.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-06   16:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: freedomsnotfree (#25)

poor, blind MD...still trying to convince everyone the earth is flat. Hopefully the blinders will come off as you mature...until then, you're rants are cheap entertainment...thanks

LOL!

PROJECTION and DISPLACEMENT two of the oldest propaganda techniques!

It's you PaulTARDS who are trying to make the case for the "flat earth" CULT boy.

It's you CULT boys who are TRYING to convert a life long DC POLITICIAN with a + 30 year record of FAILURE, (according to the standards he himself has set).

You are TRYING to convert this lifer DC CONgresscritter POLITICIAN into the SAVIOR of the US CONSTITUTION, which is simply ABSURD, to ANY HONEST OPEN MINDED, FAIR MINDED, INTELLECTUALLY HONEST, INDEPENDENT THINKER.

Which leaves ALL of you PaulTARD CULTIST out.

You are herd animals, and you are just the other side of the messiah "king" obammy CULT coin.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-06   16:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mad Dog (#28) (Edited)

You pin headed CULTISTS really do think that you have discovered THE super DECODER ring of the US CONSTITUTION don't you?

How many of the other so-called conservative candidates have spoken out about TSA abuses?

The PATRIOT Act?

How about the recently enacted National Defense Authorization Act?

Has anyone besides Ron Paul stood against this abomination? Romney HASN"T EVEN READ IT!

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-01-06   16:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard (#30)

Ping

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-01-06   17:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Bill D Berger (#30)

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

That was her view in 1996. It's 16 years later. Can we shoot them now???


jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-06   17:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Mad Dog (#29)

which is simply ABSURD, to ANY HONEST OPEN MINDED, FAIR MINDED, INTELLECTUALLY HONEST, INDEPENDENT THINKER.

...which apparently you are not. Look MD, your rants and temper tantrums do absolutely NOTHING to secure your position on issues...in fact just the opposite. Not only are you NOT taken seriously but you look childish, foolish and ignorant.

Let's be clear...with the exception of Ron Paul, NO ONE the RNC has given us to chose between is going to change policy directions, NO ONE. The global elites own BOTH teams! At least with Obama we know we have a card carrying communist in the WH...with ANY of the RNC choices, we get the same, only paraded around, for the ignorant, as "conservative", for THIS reason Obama may actually be better for the country than one of the RNC elites...gridlock is not a bad thing and the military HATES Obama, so his chances of getting them to fire on Americans is close to nill. Serious, stop the rants...my guess is that they are beneath you...but that's only a guess.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-06   18:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#20)

I'm not really sure. I prefer Ron Paul.

Me either,but he seems like the only rational option. There damn sure aren't any other candidates that give a damn about preserving the Republic.

My main objection to Paul is that he has zero charisma,and he doesn't even have "presidential hair". Both of which means the typical "undecided voter" isn't going to vote for him. They care nothing about any political stand that they don't see directly affecting THEM. All the care about are their "feelings" and appearances.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-06   18:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: freedomsnotfree (#25)

poor, blind MD...still trying to convince everyone the earth is flat. Hopefully the blinders will come off as you mature...until then, you're rants are cheap entertainment...thanks

The saddest part is that despite the insane obscene rants you see him spew in his typical posts,he really is a very bright guy.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-06   18:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#35)

...not bright enough to look outside the box Sneaky...that will be his downfall.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-06   21:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: freedomsnotfree (#33)

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Piss off CULT boy.

libertysflame.com/cgi- bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=27056

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-08   17:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: sneakypete (#35)

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Lets be CLEAR you talked sh!t about my mother, about my family, because I see what a FRAUD your wee hero RP is.

That's straight up punk azzed pre-teen B!TCH behavior.

You PaulTARDS should at least TRY to be intellectually HONEST, and TRY to work off of rational THOUGHTS not media LIES driven EMOTIONS.

btw; I KNOW you punks all tooo well, so here is my reply CULT boys,

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"

BARRY GOLDWATER (unlike RP, an actual, real CONSERVATIVE

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=27056

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-08   17:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: freedomsnotfree (#36)

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You mincing punk azzed little b!tch.

I sh!t out smarter libertarians than you every day.

If I was in a COMA I'd still be at least to the sixth power MORE aware and intelligent than you are on your best day you little pissant.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"

BARRY GOLDWATER (unlike RP, an actual, real CONSERVATIVE

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=27056

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-08   18:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Mad Dog (#38)

That's straight up punk azzed pre-teen B!TCH behavior.

You seem to be the local expert on that. You make Yu-Tard seem rational by comparison.

You clearly have emotional problems.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-08   20:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Mad Dog (#39)

I sh!t out smarter libertarians than you every day.

...MD breathlessly screams into the ether, as he stamps his feet and flails his little fist in the air...desperately trying to get attention as he throws his juvenile temper tantrum...Thanks MD, I needed a chuckle...HILARIOUS...!!!

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-08   20:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: sneakypete (#40)

Blah blah dickless bullshit CULT boy fantasy BlAh bLAH BLAH

Stick it where the sun don't shine little "man".

YOU pitiful little mincing bitch.

.

Lets be CLEAR you talked sh!t about my mother, about my family, because I see what a FRAUD your wee hero RP is.

That's straight up punk azzed pre-teen B!TCH behavior.

You PaulTARDS should at least TRY to be intellectually HONEST, and TRY to work off of rational THOUGHTS not media LIES driven EMOTIONS.

btw; I KNOW you punks all tooo well, so here is my reply CULT boys,

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"

BARRY GOLDWATER (unlike RP, an actual, real CONSERVATIVE)

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=27056

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-09   15:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: freedomsnotfree (#41)

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plop, PLOP ... ploP; PLOP!

Hey CULT boy, I just made four more PaulTARDS!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-09   16:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Mad Dog (#43)

Hey CULT boy, I just made four more PaulTARDS!

And I have no doubt you ate them,just like you do ever other turd you can get your hands on.

You really need to start taking your meds again.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-09   19:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: freedomsnotfree (#41)

...MD breathlessly screams into the ether, as he stamps his feet and flails his little fist in the air...desperately trying to get attention as he throws his juvenile temper tantrum...Thanks MD, I needed a chuckle...HILARIOUS...!!!

“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” -- Samuel Adams --

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-09   19:27:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#44)

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LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Petey you really are an inferior WEAK minded little CULT boy bitch.

You simply are unequipped to compete.

Rhetorically speaking, smacking you around would be like beating up a chair bound cripple, EASY, but wrong.

Let me know when you grow a BRAIN.

I won't hold my breath petey.

Have a NICE day little "man".

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-09   20:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Capitalist Eric (#45)

LOL!

Bubble head FAUX sailor WOG bitch humor, eh WOG?

Nice picture of a PaulTARD screaming HE'S A CONSERVATIVE!

TARD.

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-09   20:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone, war (#16)

war: It was not unconstitutional. The US Congress is in recess until January 17th.

A K A Stone: You are so full of shit war. The office isn't even constitutional.

Sorry Stone, war is correct. When Congress re-convenes, they can abolish the the appointment. I betcha, this lousy Congress will let it happen.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-01-09   20:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Mad Dog (#43)

plop, PLOP ... ploP; PLOP!

Hey CULT boy, I just made four more PaulTARDS!

No, you just crapped out the remnants of your brain...you truly are hilarious.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-09   20:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: freedomsnotfree (#49)

blah bhal lbah hhabbbbl,la all HAil the wee failed FRAUD no kind of conservative + 30 years DC POLITICIAN.

Pretty much your level of discourse TARD.

LEARN something FOOL.

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Why ron paul has ZERO chance to win the republican presidential primary

Posted by mikeymike143 (Diary)

1. His foreign policy ideas are simply the same recycled bad ideas that Jimmy Carter had. A foreign policy of ”let’s hide our head in the sand like an ostrich and blame big bad America and hope that everyone leaves us alone” is not only ignorant, but also dangerous for our country. And the big winners in last November’s elections were the ones who espoused ”american exceptionalism”, not the ones who espoused ”anti-american apologism”. Now I will admit Ron Paul’s foreign policy message would go over well with the Code Pink/Dennis Kucinich voters, but those type of people tend to be Democrats, not Republicans. One of my facebook friends put it best when he said ”if Ron Paul had been president during World War 2, we would all be speaking German now”.

2. He has no real political power. And this was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in 2008. Yes, he can win any ONLINE presidential poll. So what. In 2007 the paulbots hijacked the same online polls and Ron Paul won them all. His followers then posed articles all over the internet touting his candidacy. He then suckered his gullible followers telling them that the ”polls showed he could win” and send to him money. Then came the 2008 primaries. Out of the 50 states that were availible for Ron Paul to win, guess how many he won? ZERO. And that is spelled Z-E-R-O. Now let’s go to the present day. His internet saavy paulbots are again winning all the online and straw polls for their idol. His followers are again posting articles about him like he actually has a legitimate chance to win. Next is going to come the annual ”moneybomb” when Ron Paul once again fleeces his followers by pointing out that he is ahead in the polls and has a chance to win this time. But their delusional fantasy is going to run into a buzzsaw called Republican primary voters. Paul got absolutely destroyed when he ran in 1988, got whipped by John McCain in 2008, and he will be a three time loser in 2012.

3. There are plenty of people who are ”one issue voters” in politics. And in the Republican party there are plenty of people that ”opposition to islam” is the one issue they feel strongly about. You can go to any anti islam or conservative jewish site and see that the two politicians that are diliked the most are Obama and Ron Paul. Ron Paul has said ”I don’t believe for one minute the religion of islam is our enemy”. And Paul also attacked the Sunshine Patriots for their oppostion to the ground zero mosque. Now i am not going to debate the muslim issue here, but the fact that a decent sized voting group in your own party considers you one of their main foes is certainly not good news for your campaign. Now to be fair, you will get the people who think Israel is oppressing Palestine and the pro muslim agenda voters will be on Paul’s side. The only problem with that is almost all of that crowd are Democrats who support Obama.

4. Let’s look at Ron Paul’s position on crack cocaine and heroin. Now I am totally fine with legalizing pot and prostitution in any state if the voters want it. If somebody wants to get laid or smoke a joint it sure isn’t any of my business. But we are talking about legalizing hard drugs because Ron Paul says that the government is unconstitutionally sticking its nose in peoples business by not allowing it. I say once it becomes legal, who is going to cover the costs of the people that get addicted to it to go to rehab or treatment centers. And please don’t say the addict. Probably the government will have to. Great, now here comes a great big expansion of government to fight the drug war that was ”caused by the tea party candidate”. Which by the way, I as a taxpayer will have to cover. Increased police and court costs etc, etc. But the issue isn’t what I think or Ron Paul thinks, the issue is what does the Republican primary voter think of this policy. The ”religious right” will certainly oppose it full force. And I would think that anyone that has had a family member suffer through the addiction process will be opposed to it. That’s two groups opposed. Of course, Paul will pick up the ”left wing hippie” vote and the anarchists vote. Except the left wing hippies are already card carrying members of the Democratic party. And all the anarchists who want to overthrow big bad America are already his supporters.

5. If he were alive today, Ronald Reagan would strongly oppose him. Reagan believed in spending generously on our national defense and certainly had an interventionist foreign policy. And according to the Ron Paul playbook, that would make the greatest president of my era ”a neocon”. Their policies and beliefs are totally and completely different. Naturally Ron Paul’s followers will attempt to hide that fact by showing you an old video of Ronald Reagan praising Ron Paul as a candidate and using that as proof that Ronald Reagan would support Ron Paul in 2012. Now watch me dismantle that silly argument!!! Does anyone remember Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania? Arlen was the senator that everyone on tea party and conservative sites called a liberal RINO. He was challenged by a tea party backed conservative in the primary named Pat Toomey and when Specter saw how opposed conservatives were to his candidacy he changed parties to Democrat. He voted for TARP, Obama’s socialized health care plan, and was pro affirmative action and amnesty. Yet, Reagan praised him as a true conservative back in the 198082;s and even cut a campaign ad for him. But go ask a Pennsylvania tea partier what they think of Specter today. LOL. If you were a House or Senate member, and of course running as a Republican, Ronald Reagan would praise you as a candidate for office. That’s part of what a sitting president does for members of his party.

But rather than look at a 30 year old video let’s look at Ron Paul has to say about Ronald Reagan. In 1987, Ron Paul wrote a letter to Frank Fahrenkopf, chairman of the Republican National Committee, starting that he wanted to totally publically disassociate himself with the policies of Ronald Reagan(funny but he yet to publically disassociate with the 9-11 truther movement or Code Pink). He later told the Dallas Morning News that the presidency of Ronald Reagan was a ”dramatic failure”. OK, let’s take a look at the political success of both politicians and decide if that is true. In 2008 Ron Paul ran in the Republican primary for president. He got 5% of the vote. In other words, 19 OUT OF 20 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY VOTERS DID NOT VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE LAST ELECTION. In 1984, Ronald Reagan was reelected as the president of the United States in a landslide, winning 49 out of 50 states, and his 525 electoral votes were the the most of any candidate in American history. Hmmm, I think we have to score this one for the Gipper.

6. Illegal Immigration. According to the highly respected anti immigation group NUMBERS USA, Ron Paul has the lowest grade of any Republican presidential candidate out there, coming in with an F. Naturally, his paulbots try to put a spin on this by saying ”welfare and benefit programs should be unconsititutional so illegal immigrants wont come here”. If Ron Paul threw puppies off a tall building his hynoptized followers would be applauding and yelling it was ”constitutional”. That argument wont cut it with the voters. Polls overwhelmingly show that Americans are in favor of closing our borders and against all forms of amnesty. And that really holds true with Republican voters. April has posted articles by former Ron Paul allies like Tom Tancrdeo that blast Paul on the immigration issue. Yet again, Ron Paul thinks like a liberal Democrat, and in fact even has the same ”F” grade that NUMBERS USA gave Obama.

7. Paul’s pork problem. One thing career politicians learn to do is talk conservative while picking the taxpayers pocket for money. And ”Porkulus Paul” has this shady routine down pat. First of all, let’s go back to last November’s elections to get the proper perspective on this issue. The Republicans destroyed the Democrats on November 3 due to the energy and votes of the tea party!!!!! Now the tea party came in and deservedly wanted to flex it muscles. And decided to take a principled stand against the unethical practice of pork(earmarks). The fight against earmarks was led by the Tea Party Patriots(TPP) and other tea party and conservative groups against the pork loving Democrats. In fact, TPP leader Mark Meckler considered this such an important issue that he promised to run a tea party challenger against any Republican that accepted them.

“We’ll do what we always do,” said Meckler. “Our members will put immense pressure on every senator to vote against earmarks. This is a fundamental issue — it’s both substantive and symbolic. Will they vote against the politics of the past or are they still stuck in it? This is a vote that will never go away, like TARP. Tea Partiers have long memories. Politicians have always taken advantage of the fact that voters have short memories, but we’ll know, we’ll remember, and in 2012 when they have aggressive, well-funded primary challengers, they’ll know why.”

Then it came out that a Republican asked for 150 MILLION DOLLARS IN PORK FOR HIS DISTRICT!!! Surely this was a RINO. Maybe Olympia Snowe or Scott Brown? No, it was actually Ron Paul.

U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) was one of only four House Republicans to break rank from the party and request earmarks despite a Republican Conference earmark moratorium. Paul sent 41 earmark requests totaling $157,093,544 for the 2011 Fiscal Year.

Ron Paul is to the far left of the tea party on just about every major issue. Actually he looks just like a liberal Democrat to me.

SAY NO TO THE FAR LEFT TURN, STAY RIGHT. NO PAUL IN 2012.

................................................................................

You stupid simpering CULT boy FOOL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-09   21:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Mad Dog (#50)

Seriously...don't waste your time trying to convince me of anything. Your childish, immature, rants, while hilarious, show you to be an immature fool. I don't pay serious attention to fools...you're funny though, in a "court jester" kind of way.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-09   21:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: freedomsnotfree (#51)

.

LOL!

Hey MORON I'm NOT trying to "convince" you of anything, you gibbering substandard LOSER.

You are a fucking retarded herd dweller who buys RonniePAULIE'S BULLSHIT lock stock and fishing boat.

LOL!

You don't have the mental ability to think or act independently, you are RonniePAULIE'S unthinking TOOL/FOOL/WHORE.

YOU are the reason the LORD made involuntary muscles TARD, otherwise, since you are so stupid, you'd forget to breathe and just keel over DEAD.

Hell there would be DEAD PaulTARDS all over.

Thank GOD eh TARD?

You CULT boys stink pretty bad alive, I wouldn't want a bunch of you ripening in the sun.

THAT would be BAD.

PHEEEEEEEEwwwwwwww.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-09   21:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Mad Dog (#52)

Hilarious....WHAYYYYYYYY!!! The court jester speaks!!!LOL

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-09   23:45:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Capitalist Eric (#45)

That's kinda how I had it pictured ...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-10   9:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Mad Dog (#46)

You simply are unequipped to compete.

Uh,huh. And you are? If that's what it takes to get you out of bed each day,that's ok with me.

Let me know when you grow a BRAIN.

Like I said before,you are delusional if you think you are smarter than me. You ARE smart,but the whole insanity thing kinda drags that down.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-10   11:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: freedomsnotfree, Mad Dog (#51)

Your childish, immature, rants, while hilarious, show you to be an immature fool.

Oh,yeah.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-10   11:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete (#55)

.

.

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Petey you really are an inferior WEAK minded little CULT boy bitch.

You simply are unequipped to compete.

Rhetorically speaking, smacking you around would be like beating up a chair bound cripple, EASY, but wrong.

Let me know when you grow a BRAIN.

I won't hold my breath petey.

Have a NICE day little "man".

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-10   15:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#56)

. .

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Petey you really are an inferior WEAK minded little CULT boy bitch.

You simply are unequipped to compete.

Rhetorically speaking, smacking you around would be like beating up a chair bound cripple, EASY, but wrong.

Let me know when you grow a BRAIN.

I won't hold my breath petey.

Have a NICE day little "man".

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-10   15:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: freedomsnotfree (#53)

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I'm Soooooooooooooooooooooo happy you enjoyed it CULT boy.

Just for you CULT boy ...

.

LOL!

Hey MORON I'm NOT trying to "convince" you of anything, you gibbering substandard LOSER.

You are a fucking retarded herd dweller who buys RonniePAULIE'S BULLSHIT lock stock and fishing boat.

LOL!

You don't have the mental ability to think or act independently, you are RonniePAULIE'S unthinking TOOL/FOOL/WHORE.

YOU are the reason the LORD made involuntary muscles TARD, otherwise, since you are so stupid, you'd forget to breathe and just keel over DEAD.

Hell there would be DEAD PaulTARDS all over.

Thank GOD eh TARD?

You CULT boys stink pretty bad alive, I wouldn't want a bunch of you ripening in the sun.

THAT would be BAD.

PHEEEEEEEEwwwwwwww.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-10   15:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Mad Dog, sneaktpete (#59)

the court jester, the buffoon, is STILL demanding to be noticed. oh my sides...be still, hilarious!!!! thanks child, I mean mad dog!!!

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-10   15:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: freedomsnotfree (#60)

It looks like he just woke up from a bender. Probably a sterno bender - tough times and all.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-01-10   15:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: sneakypete, mad dog (#55)

You ARE smart,but the whole insanity thing kinda drags that down.

...based on what pray tell...I find him to be a novelty, nothing more. His rants make me chuckle, in a "cheap entertainment" sort of way. I find his uncontrolled behavior funny...who could possibly take anything he says seriously? He IS a buffoon and court jester all in one...rare idiocy indeed!! LOL

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-10   15:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Fred Mertz (#61)

hey...he's fun to laugh at...seriously. He's a combination of Yukon, GI and pee wee herman...you know...a special kinda stupid. I think it's a scream...sad for him, but still funny as hell.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-10   15:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: freedomsnotfree (#60)

YAWN...

Insipid and WEAK! Just like YOU CULT boy!

LOL!

Does that sort of clumsy and weak attempts to manipulate work in your school yard little bitch?

LMAO!!!

YOU PaulTARDS are the "gold standard" of BUFFOONS chongo

LOL!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey MORON I'm NOT trying to "convince" you of anything, you gibbering substandard LOSER.

You are a fucking retarded herd dweller who buys RonniePAULIE'S BULLSHIT lock stock and fishing boat.

LOL!

You don't have the mental ability to think or act independently, you are RonniePAULIE'S unthinking TOOL/FOOL/WHORE.

YOU are the reason the LORD made involuntary muscles TARD, otherwise, since you are so stupid, you'd forget to breathe and just keel over DEAD.

Hell there would be DEAD PaulTARDS all over.

Thank GOD eh TARD?

You CULT boys stink pretty bad alive, I wouldn't want a bunch of you ripening in the sun.

THAT would be BAD.

PHEEEEEEEEwwwwwwww.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-10   16:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Mad Dog (#64)

come on dog...you can do better than that. Throw those little fists high in the air, stamp those little feet and scream at the top of your voice "the earth really IS flat", "the earth really IS flat", "the earth really IS flat", "the earth really IS flat". Maybe you can get the attention you so desperately want...LOL

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-10   16:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Mad Dog (#64)

nurse Cratchett...paging nurse Cratchett...there's a nutter roaming the halls and posting on the internet again...paging nurse Cratchett...LOL!

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-10   16:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: freedomsnotfree, PaulTARDS, CULT boys, SANE Americans (#65)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-10   16:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: freedomsnotfree (#66)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-10   16:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Mad Dog (#68)

no MD not at all...please type faster, I heard nurse Cratchet is looking for you...LOL

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-10   16:41:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: freedomsnotfree (#69)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-10   17:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: freedomsnotfree (#66)

LOL!

What an insipid little twat you are.

I KNOW that you have no idea who e.e. cummings is, or rather was; let alone the context, or "school".

Now tell me what wikipedia says chongo!

You insipid CULT boy FOOL.

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-10   17:28:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: freedomsnotfree (#66)

balahabalgablagahsgzdtdhmccshcahdstgasvabakjaj

.

I know you act STUPID, we ALL know it.

HELL, we ALL do it too!

Politics aside, you might have a soul and just be ignorant, so I'll try to give you a real chance to live in a place you never even knew is HERE.

Of course you might not be smart enough or able to move from monochromic moronory?

BUT, what the HEY?

I never could stand the thought of a HUNGRY person.

Anybody as insipid as you present youself, is certainly, by definition, HUNGRY.

Here's a meal that will last the rest of your life,

" M. L. Rosenthal wrote in The Modern Poets: A Critical Introduction: "The chief effect of Cummings' jugglery with syntax, grammar, and diction was to blow open otherwise trite and bathetic motifs through a dynamic rediscovery of the energies sealed up in conventional usage.... He succeeded masterfully in splitting the atom of the cute commonplace."

www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/e-e-cummings

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-10   18:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: freedomsnotfree (#62) (Edited)

...based on what pray tell...I find him to be a novelty, nothing more.

I know it's hard to believe if you haven't been here long,but he does have his occasional lucid moments (probably when he is on his meds)and writes insightful posts and even posts occasional interesting threads. If he changed his screen name before posting them you would have no idea who it was,and would be impressed.

No kidding.

Then he falls off the wagon again and all we hear are insane obscene rants repeated over and over.

And I have to admit that I sometimes let him piss me off and I end up poking him with a stick and that ends up making him even worse. I know I shouldn't do that because insane people aren't insane by choice,but I do it anyhow.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-10   21:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Mad Dog (#68)

The voices in your head arguing again?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-10   21:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: freedomsnotfree (#63)

you know...a special kinda stupid

that describes him well

calcon  posted on  2012-01-10   21:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: sneakypete (#74)

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You feel real safe in the herd don't you little "man"?

Unlike YOU little "man" I don't get a feral gooberment check because of YOUR mental problems.

You are pitiful, little "man".

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-11   15:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: freedomsnotfree, All (#72)

To: freedomsnotfree balahabalgablagahsgzdtdhmccshcahdstgasvabakjaj .

I know you act STUPID, we ALL know it.

HELL, we ALL do it too!

Politics aside, you might have a soul and just be ignorant, so I'll try to give you a real chance to live in a place you never even knew is HERE.

Of course you might not be smart enough or able to move from monochromic moronory?

BUT, what the HEY?

I never could stand the thought of a HUNGRY person.

Anybody as insipid as you present youself, is certainly, by definition, HUNGRY.

Here's a meal that will last the rest of your life,

" M. L. Rosenthal wrote in The Modern Poets: A Critical Introduction: "The chief effect of Cummings' jugglery with syntax, grammar, and diction was to blow open otherwise trite and bathetic motifs through a dynamic rediscovery of the energies sealed up in conventional usage.... He succeeded masterfully in splitting the atom of the cute commonplace."

www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/e-e-cummings

Oh well ....

I didn't think that you had the tools to understand any of it FOOL.

But I had to at least offer it to you FOOL.

Hey cheer up CULT boy!

As you prove with your every post, IGNORANCE IS BLISS!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-11   15:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Mad Dog (#76)

damn, whiny bitch it appears that all the dicks pounding your head has knocked the sense completely out of you

calcon  posted on  2012-01-11   16:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Mad Dog (#77)

MAD DOG, alaska's gay community's version of the "shake weight"

calcon  posted on  2012-01-11   16:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Mad Dog (#76)

You feel real safe in the herd don't you little "man"?

Yeah,that's me alright. That's why I always support whatever RINO the party picks for a candidate no matter how much he sucks,and that's why I enlisted in the army and volunteered for SF so I would always be surrounded by hundreds of shipmates just like the guys in the Navy.

Unlike YOU little "man" I don't get a feral gooberment check because of YOUR mental problems.

I don't get one for mental problems because I have no mental problems and YOU don't get one for mental problems because you didn't do anything dangerous to earn one even though you are a definite nutcase. BTW,what's with all the "litte man" stuff. You still trying to overcompensate for being a closeted homo? Do you think this makes you look "Butch". Guess what? It ain't working. All it does is make you look like a foolish 12 year old.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-11   19:32:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Mad Dog (#77)

nurse Cratchett is looking for you...she wants her computer back...LOL

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-12   13:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: freedomsnotfree (#81)

To: freedomsnotfree balahabalgablagahsgzdtdhmccshcahdstgasvabakjaj . I know you act STUPID, we ALL know it.

HELL, we ALL do it too!

Politics aside, you might have a soul and just be ignorant, so I'll try to give you a real chance to live in a place you never even knew is HERE.

Of course you might not be smart enough or able to move from monochromic moronory?

BUT, what the HEY?

I never could stand the thought of a HUNGRY person.

Anybody as insipid as you present youself, is certainly, by definition, HUNGRY.

Here's a meal that will last the rest of your life,

" M. L. Rosenthal wrote in The Modern Poets: A Critical Introduction: "The chief effect of Cummings' jugglery with syntax, grammar, and diction was to blow open otherwise trite and bathetic motifs through a dynamic rediscovery of the energies sealed up in conventional usage.... He succeeded masterfully in splitting the atom of the cute commonplace."

www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/e-e-cummings

Oh well ....

I didn't think that you had the tools to understand any of it FOOL.

But I had to at least offer it to you FOOL.

Hey cheer up CULT boy!

As you prove with your every post, IGNORANCE IS BLISS!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's the matter moron?

Can't hack the intellectual "overhead" of what I posted?

Tell us all, again, how smart YOU are CULT boy.

The movie "To Kill a Mockingbird" was an excellent adaptation of Harper Lee's 1960 novel.

I saw it AFTER I had READ the book CULT boy.

I'm sure that a FOOL such as you never read it.

I'm actually surprised that you were able to WATCH the movie and retain ANYTHING of it CULT boy.

That sort of behavior is certainly above YOUR F' ing pay grade CULT boy.

Pitiful.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-14   18:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: calcon (#78)

calFAG's current QUEER fantasies.

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!

calFAG's QUEER ANGST.

If it's calFAG, it's ALL QUEER, ALL of the time.

Who besides calFAG cares?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-14   18:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: calcon (#79)

calFAG's current QUEER desires from FAGGOT central Kalipornia ...

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!

calFAG's QUEER ANGST.

If it's calFAG, it's ALL QUEER, ALL of the time.

Who besides calFAG cares?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-14   18:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: sneakypete (#80)

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever you say little "man".

YOU belong in the PaulTARD herd little "man", YOU are a born follower and a TOOL.

It's just gotta be kinda of SAD and DESPERATE when your so called service is ALL that you have or are in your life "little man".

You love to PLAY the "hero" "little man", too bad you are a FRAUD "little man".

How's that gooberment tit working out for you "little man"?

How's the free cheese?

"Little man"?

"little man"?

PITIFUL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-14   18:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Mad Dog (#85)

Do you realize that, with the exception of the head two and a half feet above the cock you are sucking (Yukon's), no one gives a flying fuck about you or your spittle laced rants?

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-14   20:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Mad Dog (#85) (Edited)

It's just gotta be kinda of SAD and DESPERATE when your so called service is ALL that you have or are in your life "little man".

My "so called service"? There are people posting here and on LP that know I have made no untrue claims.

And *I* am not the running around trying to act macho.

You love to PLAY the "hero" "little man", too bad you are a FRAUD "little man".

Really? When have *I* ever claimed to have shot down 3 MIG's?

How's the free cheese?

It's no secret to anybody here that you never did anything to EARN a VA disability check,and have a chip on your shoulder for hiding out and avoiding combat.

PITIFUL.

Yes,you are.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-14   21:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: war (#86)

no one gives a flying fuck about you or your spittle laced rants?

Not entirely true,war. Some people probably feel pity for him,other's feel disgust,and Yu-Tard and Fire Island most likely feel lust. They have their very own groupie.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-14   21:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: sneakypete (#87)

What is a classic symptom of INSANITY?

Doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different conclusion.

I don't "act" anything.

You know as well as I do anybody can CLAIM anything on the web. It means nothing.

As usual, you purposely distort what I have said, which is the TRUTH, I have PART of THREE Mig KILLS. Only a person ignorant of NAVAL WARSHIPS and their weapons systems would even consider that a single person of a DESTROYER crews does anything alone.

But ... it's handy to TRY to insult me because you are just an ignorant lubber. Which is not a dig or insult. I don't know anything about being in the Army, but then I've never claimed to either.

I could have been on a Feral or a STATE or a CITY or a UNION pension if I wanted to, years ago.

BUT I REFUSED to be a PIG who lives off of the American people.

Why would anyone think that they deserve to be paid for doing NOTHING?

I'm not going to file for my SS until I'm 70 either, if then, and then, only if I run out of money or options by then. Although I think the odds are low that it will even be available to me, even if I live the next seven years.

I do apologize for my out of line comments regarding your VA benefits, it was just anger. IF you served, and IF they say that you deserve it, you F' ing deserve it.

I'm sorry for talking shit about your disability, please pardon my anger and stupidity regarding that.

What's pitiful is that YOU think that you get to say who is and who is not a "real" vet.

What IS pitiful is living in the past. Although I understand that living with the physical results of your service is unavoidable for you.

You simply aren't the judge of anything or anybody, except of course for your own self , and neither am I.

What's pitiful is how you can't see the scam RonniePAULIE is running.

I'd be happy to talk cars and lift a cold one with you anytime. I don't expect people to be clones of each other.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-14   22:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: sneakypete (#87) (Edited)

Some people probably feel pity for him,other's feel disgust,and Yu-Tard and Fire Island most likely feel lust.

Mad Dog = Fire Island?

BTW, what's happened to el Pee? Did Golda forget to pay the bill again?

meguro  posted on  2012-01-15   9:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Mad Dog (#89)

What is a classic symptom of INSANITY?

Doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different conclusion.

Which pretty much defines almost all of your posts.

u know as well as I do anybody can CLAIM anything on the web.

You mean like shooting down 3 MIG's?

As usual, you purposely distort what I have said, which is the TRUTH, I have PART of THREE Mig KILLS. Only a person ignorant of NAVAL WARSHIPS and their weapons systems would even consider that a single person of a DESTROYER crews does anything alone.

Only a person ignorant of combat would claim "part of a kill". Using YOUR standards a US Army or USMC artillery spotter killed thousands of NVA.

Which isn't really accurate since neither you or the ship was ever in the slightest danger and the artillery spotters were always in considerable danger since they were always within eyeball sight of the enemy when they called in fire missions.

Either YOU personally killed them,or you didn't. You might as well say YOU have a part in those kills because you drove a forklift in a factory in Illinois that shipped the food the crew ate.

I would also like to add I have NEVER heard anybody that has ever been in combat brag about "my number of kills",and I have literally known several hundred that were in combat as infantrymen in WW-2,the Korean War,and multiple tours in VN.

You must be about 12 years old emotionally to even consider laying claim to being a "part of 3 kills".

But ... it's handy to TRY to insult me because you are just an ignorant lubber.

Yeah,because serving in the Navy during the VN war was SUCH a difficult thing to do,what with there being a waiting list to enlist because of all the people wanting to join the Navy to avoid being drafted and serving on the ground in VN as a infantryman in either the Army or the Marine Corps.

And what is the big freaking deal about serving on a boat that floats around and has no oppossing force?

Hell,my uncle has a better claim to combat than you do,and he was in the Merchant Marines and had to tie up in port. He claims he thinks the ship he was on received small arms fire while sailing up the river.

Why would anyone think that they deserve to be paid for doing NOTHING?

It's clear you don't understand the concept of "EARNING" something because it's much easier to just make claims.

I'm not going to file for my SS until I'm 70 either,

Ain't YOU "special"!

Then again,that is easy to say when all you have ever done is sit around on your fat ass and not do anything dangerous. Running your mouth at people on the internet that you don't know and will never see is about as close to getting hurt as you have ever came,Twinkie.

I do apologize for my out of line comments regarding your VA benefits, it was just anger.

Too little,too late. You have been pulling this shit for months. The time to apologize was when you started it. Don't pull it for months and then try to claim a fit of anger.

Although it is very likely you have anger management problems and this is why you bray like a jackass in almost every post you make.

IF you served, and IF they say that you deserve it, you F' ing deserve it.

And here you are at it again,DESPITE having been told that dozens of people who know me personally who have either served with me or know people personally that did serve with me who have verified my service in the US Army Special Forces and more spefically with MACV-SOG during the VN war. Do a web search for MACV-SOG Operations 35 and learn a little. It was classified as a Top Secret operation for decades,but practically everything about it is public knowledge now.

INCLUDING a list of people who served and in what capacity they served. Steve Sherman even published a book with the title "The Little Yellow Book of SOG" with the names and duty assignments of almost everybody who was ever in SOG. Yeah,there are a few names that were left off by accident,but MY name is in the book.

And I spoke about what I did in VN so little that not even my mother or my father knew what I had done when they went to their graves. They thought I was working in a army post office the whole time I was there because that's what I told them I was doing. I saw no need to worry them while I was there and once I got back there was no reason to tell them because they wouldn't understand it and because it was still Top Secret.

And you KNOW I am who I say I am because even if you weren't around during the FR days,there are people on LP that have verified I am who I say I am because they either know me personally or people they know and trust know me and have verified my service.

What's pitiful is that YOU think that you get to say who is and who is not a "real" vet.

Once again you are lying. Probably because of that chip on your shoulder that REQUIRES you to think you are a combat veteran. You ain't.

It's pretty simple,really. You were either in combat or you weren't. If you haven't been within eyeball range of the man shooting at you and you are shooting back at,you haven't been in combat.

And the whole "partial kill" thing is absolute bullshit. Either YOU killed him,or you didn't.

And on top of all that,killing somebody is nothing to brag about. You do it if you need to do it,but you don't brag about it.

Now,to finish this thing off (hopefully) I will add one more time. EVERYBODY that wore a uniform served and is a veteran. It doesn't matter if they served during wartime or peacetime and it doesn't matter if they charged up the beaches of Guadal Canal or served meals at the Naval Training base at Great Lakes their whole military career,they are BOTH veterans.

The difference is that while both of the above examples are war veterans,only one of them is a combat veteran.

What IS pitiful is living in the past.

Then give it up. You write about your past service in most of the posts you make,and I only mention mine when attacked by you or somebody asks me something.

There are people around here that I have known since grammar school that still don't know anything about what I did in the army.Most know I was in the army because I quit high school to enlist and in a high school of around 220 total pupils,people notice when you aren't there anymore and ask where you are.

Most of the people I have known for the last 40+ years don't even know I was in the army unless they have asked me or seen the "US Paratrooper" tatoo on my upper bicep I got when I was 17. It's even up so high it can't been seen when I am wearing a t-shirt.

Although I understand that living with the physical results of your service is unavoidable for you.

I appreciate the thought,but it is what it is and since there is nothing I can do about it I do my best to ignore it as much as I can. It does you no good and a lot of harm to let crap like that dominate your mind.

I'd be happy to talk cars and lift a cold one with you anytime.

I don't have any real problems with you other than two. One is your constant insistence that you are a COMBAT veteran and then going insane when corrected,and the other is your constant over the top and out of control obscene mindless rants. You can do better and I have seen you do better. You really are a bright guy. You need to do whatever it is you need to do to control your anger so you can post in a civilized manner without constantly attacking everybody except Yu-Tard,Fire Island,and Gatlin. Of the hundreds (thousands?) of posts you have made since I noticed your posting,those three are the ONLY ones I haven't seen you attack. 3 people out of the hundreds you interact with,and those three are the only ones you don't attack or attack you in return.

Think about that one for a minute. Go back and search out the posts you have posted to others over just the last year and see if you can spot a trend.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-15   9:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: meguro (#90)

Mad Dog = Fire Island?

No. Mad Dog is actually a pretty bright guy. He's just nuts and needs to get some help to control his anger.

"Pretty Bright" may be the only thing Fire Island has never been accused of being. That boy is dumber than a box of hammers.

BTW, what's happened to el Pee? Did Golda forget to pay the bill again?

Beats me. I have been wondering the same thing. Haven't been there yet today,but I guess I will find out if it is still down in a few minutes.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-15   9:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Mad Dog, A K A Stone (#68)

Stone...at least when I tell you to go fuck yourself I tell it to your face...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-15   12:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Mad Dog (#67)

Quit spamming up the threads. Grow up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   12:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: war (#93)

I didn't notice that spam. Thanks for the heads up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   12:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: A K A Stone (#94)

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WTF are you talking about?

What SPAM?

Actually, never mind, I don't actually care.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-15   15:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: sneakypete (#91)

Blah blah blah blah blah blah

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Frankly pete I was talking about this particular dance that you seem to so love.

It doesn't matter fuck all what YOU "think" or "feel", the US GOOBERMENT/US Department of Defense/US NAVY say fucking otherwise.

VSM with three stars, CAR, MUC with two stars, Shellback.

Kiss my ASS.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-15   15:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: sneakypete (#92)

Mad Dog is actually a pretty bright guy.

You're joking, right?

BTW, what's happened to el Pee? Did Golda forget to pay the bill again?

Maybe the domain has been commandeered for official Mossad use.

meguro  posted on  2012-01-15   17:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: meguro, Mad Dog (#98)

Mad Dog is actually a pretty bright guy.

You're joking, right?

Mad Dog is a better man then you are. But you're not a "real" man.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   17:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: A K A Stone (#99)

Meguro is a real man who at least thinks with his brains instead of woth his testicles like MD and people like you do.

You are a control freak who would invite the though police into everyone's bedroom to make sure there were no genital combinations you hate involved in private personal activities.

You need to grow up.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-15   17:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Ferret Mike (#100)

You need to shut the fuck up and get some morals. Witch.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   17:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: A K A Stone (#101)

You are a nosy little bed snooper who has not a clue about how to respect the rights of others.

My morals are quite good; it's your's that are in the toilet.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-15   18:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Ferret Mike (#102)

You are a nosy little bed snooper

You know how stupid you sound rat boy? No one would ever know unless he came talking about it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   18:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: A K A Stone (#103) (Edited)

You are a bed snooper whether you peeping Tom or gossip derisively about open knowledge about private human relationships.

My position is supported by well vetted scientific studies, your's is based on erroneous interpretations of vague statements in the Bible's old testament.

I base my opinion on fact, you base your's on bigotry, nosiness and disrespect for the rights of others.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-15   18:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: A K A Stone (#103) (Edited)

By the way, your attempt to insult gives away your power in an especially amusing way. You show you only like the forum owner gig so you can use your moderator dashboard to screw with others, not to be a leader and set a high standard of behavior in your place.

You act like a baby. I know Kinder-gardeners more mature than you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-15   18:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: A K A Stone (#99) (Edited)

Mad Dog is a better man then you are. But you're not a "real" man.

And you're a dipshit, Stoner. But you knew that already, didn't you?

meguro  posted on  2012-01-15   18:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: meguro (#98)

Mad Dog is actually a pretty bright guy. You're joking, right?

Nope. He has more than a few anger control and ego issues,but he really is a pretty bright guy.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-15   21:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: A K A Stone, Ferret Mike (#101)

You need to shut the fuck up and get some morals. Witch.

A man who is cheerleading an assassignation of a sitting US President is questioning someone ELSE's morality?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-15   21:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: sneakypete (#108)

A man who is cheerleading an assassignation of a sitting US President is questioning someone ELSE's morality?

Are you saying I said that? That is ridiculous.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   22:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: A K A Stone (#109)

It is obvious you implied this. You might think you are a coy l'il thang, but you ain't, Jackson.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-15   23:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: sneakypete (#107)

He has more than a few anger control and ego issues,but he really is a pretty bright guy.

If you say so.

meguro  posted on  2012-01-16   0:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: meguro (#111)

Well, the bitches in his doggie pen in his backyard like him. He gives them a break from those large Husky sausages that lock in place until fido is done making bacon.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-16   0:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Ferret Mike (#112)

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Explain this to me weasel boy, while you "defend" being queer, you use an inference that being queer is foul and bad.

Why do you do that weasel boy?

Oh yeah, you're a stupid fucking gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE.

Why don't you and the queer get a room?

Nobody here cares.

Nobody here cares what YOU perverts do alone in the darkness.

It's when you perverts TRY to claim that your sickness is HEALTH that we act against your sickness and insanity.

You can't even be intellectually HONEST about stuff you CLAIM to support, you miserable libTURD creep.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   17:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Mad Dog (#113)

Nobody here cares what YOU perverts do alone in the darkness.

It's when you perverts TRY to claim that your sickness is HEALTH that we act against your sickness and insanity.

At least you know right from wrong. That can't be said about liberals. Or if they do know the difference they usually always choose evil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-16   17:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: meguro (#111)

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NOBODY cares about your perversions creep.

EXCEPT YOU faggot.

What's life like worshiping the sphincter faggot?

What's it like to color EVERYTHING in your sad little life with SHIT faggot?

Because that's what you do faggot, in fact faggot, that's ALL that you do.

You are sphincter-centric and you are apparently incapable of any other thoughts.

I honestly pity you faggot.

You think that love smells like shit.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   17:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: A K A Stone (#114)

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"At least"?

That's damning me with faint praise isn't it?

I feel very sorry for those like these queers, who have deluded themselves and are so deep into their perversions that they cannot hear the Lord anymore.

God will not be mocked.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   17:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Mad Dog (#116)

That's damning me with faint praise isn't it?

No. It was a compliment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-16   17:43:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Mad Dog (#115)

You were toning it down for a while. Now you are not. How about toning it down just a notch.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-16   17:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: A K A Stone (#118)

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How about you tell people NOT to fucking rank on the US NAVY in VIETNAM?

How about you tell people NOT to call the US NAVY in VIETNAM, COWARDS, SHIRKERS, and LIARS?

How about you tell these people to lay off of the personal insults and maybe I'll do the same?

I am a SWORD carrying Christian.

I don't turn the other cheek when MY PEOPLE and MY SELF are repeatedly and heinously insulted.

EVER.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   18:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: A K A Stone (#118)

BTW, it seems like every time that I come here on weekends at late night my Safari browser develops a problem that does not allow me to log in.

It claims there is no such user name.

Then I have to use another browser to log on, like I did right now.

I KNOW that vile insane piece of shit fuckeroo loves to do his hacker thing, and I KNOW that "he" really really LOVES me.

Is there a connection?

It's cowardly enough to be "him".

Just a heads up.

I'll ALWAYS be able to work around "him" or whoever it is.

IMO fuckeroo is an oozing sore on life's big ass.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   18:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Mad Dog (#119) (Edited)

My Dad was a Naval Aviator in WW II and I appreciate the job the navy did in WW II.

No one disrespects anyone for their service, just as I'm sure you don't disrespect the beautiful couple chosen for the First kiss honors recently that made history.

Gay service members have served honorably for a long time in the U.S. military, and it is a good thing they are no longer unfairly discriminated against for mere normative human sexual atttreaction and behavior. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-16   18:33:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Mad Dog (#119)

I am a SWORD carrying Christian.

By your raging diatribes, vulgar language and unwarranted insults...your actions DON'T match your words. You set a very BAD example for Christian behavior and I wonder how many people you've turned off, and against Christianity, with your hate filled, vulgar outbursts. I'm dismayed at the example of a "SWORD carrying Christian" you display... it's MOST un-Christian.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   18:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Ferret Mike (#121)

for mere normative human sexual atttreaction and behavior.

there's absolutely NOTHING normal about people of the same sex being attracted to each other...NOTHING! As consenting adults, do they have the right to have sex with each other...yes. If it's so "normal", go procrate and produce an offspring. I frankly don't care if they want to invite a pony into the mix...but trying to normalizing this queer behavior has gone way over the top.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   19:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Ferret Mike (#121)

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LOL!

You just react like a pre-teen gurl don't you fool?

Your only intention with you gibberish post is to rub QUEERNESS into OUR, (esp. my), faces eh creep?

You absurd little mincing faggot.

Now go ahead LIAR, and TRY to tell US all that YOUR FATHER would agree with YOU being so PRO-QUEER, especially as being accepted as NORMAL in the US NAVY and in the FLEET you simpering little faggot bitch.

I bet that YOUR FATHER would understand how COUNTER MISSION and UNIT COHESION that is faggot.

You seem to think that I hate queers? Faggot I feel SORRY for you ALL. You are CURSED and you embrace this CURSE as if it was a blessing. Dooming your soul forever.

I've had QUEER friends, and they were fine people besides their perversions, which they NEVER talked to me about. I have no interest in the workings of YOUR perversions faggot, anymore than I want to hear about how some guy screwed his GIRLfriend faggot.

REAL and NORMAL people don't center their lives on SEX, you pitiful faggot.

That you do is indicative of the extent of the progress of your sickness loser.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   19:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: freedomsnotfree (#123)

there's absolutely NOTHING normal about people of the same sex being attracted to each other...NOTHING! As consenting adults, do they have the right to have sex with each other...yes. If it's so "normal", go procrate and produce an offspring. I frankly don't care if they want to invite a pony into the mix...but trying to normalizing this queer behavior has gone way over the top.

You're wasting your breath......

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-16   19:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: freedomsnotfree (#122)

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LOL!

It's true that I am a SINNER, one of the worst ever for sure. I have never claimed otherwise have I FRAUD?

I have never claimed to be a GOOD Christian either you simpering little FRAUD.

HAVE I FRAUD?

What you mean FRAUD, is that I'm not one of your hoped for, and favored type of no balls milquetoast "christian", who will take your foulness without comment, through their ignorance of scripture.

Your opinion means nothing to me FRAUD.

I never claimed that my actions were "Christian" did I FRAUD?

Turns out FRAUD, that Christians are just HUMAN.

I'll stand before the final judge and answer for my own sins FRAUD.

I'd recommend that you pay attention to your own judgement FRAUD.

So eat shit and die, you heathen FRAUD..

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   19:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: freedomsnotfree (#123) (Edited)

I completely disagree. nobody has the prerogative to judge the quality of a couple's relationship.

Same sex relationships were seldom sanctioned before feudal times, and as time progresses things are returning to the norm of respecting the rights of others to form and conduct their own relationships.

There has never not been homosexual and bi-sexual relationships in the entire human history, and there will always be such liaisons.

The APA and other organizations have done exhaustive impartial research that is well vetted showing homosexuals are completely normal in every way and lead every bit as productive and happy a life as us heterosexual people do.

That is, as long as bigots mind their business and butt out of that which does not concern them.

basically, anti-gay hysteria makes a good wedge issue that can drum up fear and hatred, and provides a good catalyst to get people to buy an overall package of agendas they would normally have the good sense to avoid.

Which is the raison d'etre for much of the hate baiting some people like to do.

We had one such group in Oregon called the Oregon Citizen's Alliance (OCA) that tried in vain for many years to get anti-gay ballot measures passed.

Their success was spotty in the beginning and evaporated to no success as we all got to know them as saw that they were just in it for the hate, the bait, and were using the issue to try to sell some pretty slimy social agendas that had nothing to do with homosexuality.

I worked for three years with Oregon Basic Rights and spent many hours and much effort defeating these people, and I am proud of my good efforts, and that of my fellow activists.

Eugene, Oregon ranks 22nd on the scale of the size of it's gay community, primarily because we are the largest lesbian enclave on the West Coast.

We have city officials, police leaders, University of Oregon administrators and many other folks who are well adjusted, productive and happy citizens of our community.

I have several women couples living in the same block as me, and they are great neighbors and dear friends.

You can say what you want, but you cannot budge me one iota from my position. I have invested a great deal of time and effort insuring the gays and lesbians of my community are not molested by the hate of those who would bait and harass them. Your view gets zero sympathy from me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-16   19:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Mad Dog (#124) (Edited)

"You just react like a pre-teen gurl don't you fool?"

Nope, I prefer women my own age. I have no sympathy for pedophiles.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-16   19:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Ferret Mike (#128)

Nope, I prefer women my own age. I have no sympathy for pedophiles.

That's TWO lies faggot.

How can you be pro pervert QUEER, and NOT be PRO pervert child molester faggot? So often they overlap. From YOUR view faggot, why is one OK and the other isn't? Your partee supports both faggot, aren't you a good little demonRAT? How come you didn't mention trans gendered folks you PREJUDICED Ahole? How about animal abusers creep? I mean SEXUALLY of course. How about screwing dead bodies creep? ... YOUR FILTH goes on.

Oh yeah, you're a libTURD, so being a foul HYPOCRITE comes naturally to you.

Nothing to say about YOUR FATHER feeling the same way about QUEERS as YOU do faggot?

Aren't you even going to TRY to LIE about him?

Creep.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   19:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Ferret Mike (#128)

I have no sympathy for pedophiles.

So does that mean you have no sympathy for the homosexuals that commit almost 50% of the pedophile crimes in this country, or are they exempt????

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-16   19:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: CZ82 (#130) (Edited)

The overwhelming number of child molesters are NOT in any kind of consensual adult relationship.

Those who do have are overwhelmingly heterosexual.

Oh...and 25% of child molestations are done by people under the age of 18.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-16   19:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: sneakypete (#35)

The saddest part is that despite the insane obscene rants you see him spew in his typical posts,he really is a very bright guy.

My his rabies booster shots aren't up to date?

meguro  posted on  2012-01-16   21:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Mad Dog (#126)

"Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them"...what you show to the world is vile, vulgar, insulting and hate-filled...you can call yourself whatever you like...but I think you show yourself, with every post you make, to be THE fraud..posing as a Christian.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   22:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Ferret Mike (#127)

you didn't answer the question...if its' so normal, so "natural"...why can't you procreate and reproduce...in the animal world, you'd be a freak of nature, you would become non- existent, or taken out of the gene pool. All you can do is recruit...by promoting your lifestyle as "normal", usually to those MUCH younger. I don't care if you don't budge from your position...it matters not one bit to me...I have dealt with MANY homosexuals and I can tell you this...with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS...they are terrible messed up people with huge addiction/emotional/relationship problems. Why not normalize sex with the dead, animals or family members...those practising their perversion will ALWAYS try to convince the world they are NORMAL, when CLEARLY they ARE NOT.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   22:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: freedomsnotfree (#133)

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Unfortunately, for YOU, You are a HYPOCRITE and a total FRAUD.

.- Matthew 7:1 -.

New International Version (©1984) "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

New Living Translation (©2007) "Do not judge others, and you will not be judged.

English Standard Version (©2001) “Judge not, that you be not judged.

New American Standard Bible (©1995) "Do not judge so that you will not be judged.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

International Standard Version (©2008) "Stop judging, so that you won't be judged,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) You shall not judge, lest you be judged.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) "Stop judging so that you will not be judged.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003) Judge not, that you be not judged.

American King James Version Judge not, that you be not judged.

American Standard Version Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Douay-Rheims Bible JUDGE not, that you may not be judged,

Darby Bible Translation Judge not, that ye may not be judged;

English Revised Version Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Webster's Bible Translation Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Weymouth New Testament "Judge not, that you may not be judged;

World English Bible "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.

Young's Literal Translation 'Judge not, that ye may not be judged,

bible.cc/matthew/7-1.htm

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It is GOD'S place to judge us ALL, especially in matters of FAITH you simpering mealy mouthed HYPOCRITE FRAUD, not YOURS or any other human's.

That you find my vocabulary and syntax offensive is YOUR problem you HYPOCRITE FRAUD.

You should keep YOUR OWN judgement in mind HYPOCRITE.

Of course, the odds are that you aren't even a Christian.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   22:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: meguro (#132)

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Do you know what normal people call a creep who puts people on ignore and then talks about them?

A FAGGOT bitch.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   22:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Mad Dog (#135)

New International Version (©1984) "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

New Living Translation (©2007) "Do not judge others, and you will not be judged.

English Standard Version (©2001) “Judge not, that you be not judged.

New American Standard Bible (©1995) "Do not judge so that you will not be judged.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

International Standard Version (©2008) "Stop judging, so that you won't be judged,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) You shall not judge, lest you be judged.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) "Stop judging so that you will not be judged.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003) Judge not, that you be not judged.

American King James Version Judge not, that you be not judged.

American Standard Version Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Douay-Rheims Bible JUDGE not, that you may not be judged,

Darby Bible Translation Judge not, that ye may not be judged;

English Revised Version Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Webster's Bible Translation Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Weymouth New Testament "Judge not, that you may not be judged;

World English Bible "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.

Young's Literal Translation 'Judge not, that ye may not be judged,

I think you better go back and read your posts MD. Moron, fraud, lier, HYPOCRITE FRAUD, Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, idiots and YOU PITIFUL little CULTIST FOOL are just a small sampling of the judging you've done...so who's the hypocrite fraud. What a horrible example you set as a Christian, a representative of our savior...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   23:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: freedomsnotfree (#137)

I think you better go back and read your posts MD. Moron, fraud, lier (sic.), HYPOCRITE FRAUD, Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, idiots and YOU PITIFUL little CULTIST FOOL are just a small sampling of the judging you've done...so who's the hypocrite fraud. What a horrible example you set as a Christian, a representative of our savior...

What a gibbering FRAUD you are .

The judging spoken of in scripture is of FAITH you gibbering FRAUD.

A real Christian would know that heathen.

I am as I am, an admitted SINNER, an in-complete Christian, who represents only MYSELF you gibbering FRAUD.

You see FRAUD, I'm not a hypocrite, I can't be regarding being a Christian, because I have NEVER pretended to be a perfect or even good Christian; and I freely admit that my sins are legion and crimson.

Unlike you, you mealy mouthed hypocrite FRAUD.

You are a whitewashed tomb, hypocrite.

You really ought to pay more attention to your own judgement FRAUD, more than to your ideas about what you "think" about the judgement of others. Especially since it's very likely that you are NO kind of Christian at all FRAUD.

Being a Christian doesn't mean that you are perfect, or in complete accordance with the Lord. It just means that you are a SINNER who has turned your self over to the Lord and thereby you are SAVED.

EVERY real Christian knows these basic things FRAUD.

Why don't YOU.

Oh yeah, you're just a FRAUD.

EVERY real Christian KNOWS these BASIC things FRAUD.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   0:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: freedomsnotfree (#134) (Edited)

All you can do is recruit...by promoting your lifestyle as "normal",

Yeah, but we all know you won't be recruited, right big guy? Incidentally, what's your lifestyle? Is it normal?

I have dealt with MANY homosexuals and I can tell you this...with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS...they are terrible messed up people with huge addiction/emotional/relationship problems.

About how many have you dealt with in your estimation? And in what capacity have you dealt with them?

meguro  posted on  2012-01-17   1:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: freedomsnotfree (#137)

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BTW FRAUD, Robert Service wrote this about YOU

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The Ballad of Pious Pete

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"The North has got him." —Yukonism.

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I tried to refine that neighbor of mine, honest to God, I did. I grieved for his fate, and early and late I watched over him like a kid. I gave him excuse, I bore his abuse in every way that I could; I swore to prevail; I camped on his trail; I plotted and planned for his good. By day and by night I strove in men's sight to gather him into the fold, With precept and prayer, with hope and despair, in hunger and hardship and cold. I followed him into Gehennas of sin, I sat where the sirens sit; In the shade of the Pole, for the sake of his soul, I strove with the powers of the Pit. I shadowed him down to the scrofulous town; I dragged him from dissolute brawls; But I killed the galoot when he started to shoot electricity into my walls.

God knows what I did he should seek to be rid of one who would save him from shame. God knows what I bore that night when he swore and bade me make tracks from his claim. I started to tell of the horrors of hell, when sudden his eyes lit like coals; And "Chuck it," says he, "don't persecute me with your cant and your saving of souls." I'll swear I was mild as I'd be with a child, but he called me the son of a slut; And, grabbing his gun with a leap and a run, he threatened my face with the butt. So what could I do (I leave it to you)? With curses he harried me forth; Then he was alone, and I was alone, and over us menaced the North.

Our cabins were near; I could see, I could hear; but between us there rippled the creek; And all summer through, with a rancor that grew, he would pass me and never would speak. Then a shuddery breath like the coming of Death crept down from the peaks far away; The water was still; the twilight was chill; the sky was a tatter of gray. Swift came the Big Cold, and opal and gold the lights of the witches arose; The frost-tyrant clinched, and the valley was cinched by the stark and cadaverous snows. The trees were like lace where the star-beams could chase, each leaf was a jewel agleam. The soft white hush lapped the Northland and wrapped us round in a crystalline dream; So still I could hear quite loud in my ear the swish of the pinions of time; So bright I could see, as plain as could be, the wings of God's angels ashine.

As I read in the Book I would oftentimes look to that cabin just over the creek. Ah me, it was sad and evil and bad, two neighbors who never would speak! I knew that full well like a devil in hell he was hatching out, early and late, A system to bear through the frost-spangled air the warm, crimson waves of his hate. I only could peer and shudder and fear—'twas ever so ghastly and still; But I knew over there in his lonely despair he was plotting me terrible ill. I knew that he nursed a malice accurst, like the blast of a winnowing flame; I pleaded aloud for a shield, for a shroud—Oh, God! then calamity came.

Mad! If I'm mad then you too are mad; but it's all in the point of view. If you'd looked at them things gallivantin' on wings, all purple and green and blue; If you'd noticed them twist, as they mounted and hissed like scorpions dim in the dark; If you'd seen them rebound with a horrible sound, and spitefully spitting a spark; If you'd watched IT with dread, as it hissed by your bed, that thing with the feelers that crawls— You'd have settled the brute that attempted to shoot electricity into your walls.

Oh, some they were blue, and they slithered right through; they were silent and squashy and round; And some they were green; they were wriggly and lean; they writhed with so hateful a sound. My blood seemed to freeze; I fell on my knees; my face was a white splash of dread. Oh, the Green and the Blue, they were gruesome to view; but the worst of them all were the Red. They came through the door, they came through the floor, they came through the moss-creviced logs. They were savage and dire; they were whiskered with fire; they bickered like malamute dogs. They ravined in rings like iniquitous things; they gulped down the Green and the Blue. I crinkled with fear whene'er they drew near, and nearer and nearer they drew.

And then came the crown of Horror's grim crown, the monster so loathsomely red. Each eye was a pin that shot out and in, as, squidlike, it oozed to my bed; So softly it crept with feelers that swept and quivered like fine copper wire; Its belly was white with a sulphurous light, it jaws were a-drooling with fire. It came and it came; I could breathe of its flame, but never a wink could I look. I thrust in its maw the Fount of the Law; I fended it off with the Book. I was weak—oh, so weak—but I thrilled at its shriek, as wildly it fled in the night; And deathlike I lay till the dawn of the day. (Was ever so welcome the light?)

I loaded my gun at the rise of the sun; to his cabin so softly I slunk. My neighbor was there in the frost-freighted air, all wrapped in a robe in his bunk. It muffled his moans; it outlined his bones, as feebly he twisted about; His gums were so black, and his lips seemed to crack, and his teeth all were loosening out. 'Twas a death's head that peered through the tangle of beard; 'twas a face I will never forget; Sunk eyes full of woe, and they troubled me so with their pleadings and anguish, and yet As I rested my gaze in a misty amaze on the scurvy-degenerate wreck, I thought of the Things with the dragon-fly wings, then laid I my gun on his neck. He gave out a cry that was faint as a sigh, like a perishing malamute, And he says unto me, "I'm converted," says he; "for Christ's sake, Peter, don't shoot!"

They're taking me out with an escort about, and under a sergeant's care; I am humbled indeed, for I'm 'cuffed to a Swede that thinks he's a millionaire. But it's all Gospel true what I'm telling to you— up there where the Shadow falls— That I settled Sam Noot when he started to shoot electricity into my walls.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   2:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: war (#131)

The overwhelming number of child molesters are NOT in any kind of consensual adult relationship.

Those who do have are overwhelmingly heterosexual.

Oh...and 25% of child molestations are done by people under the age of 18.

So you believe that????

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-17   8:03:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: CZ82 (#141)

I believe whatever is true. A child is more than likely to be molested by a family member than a stranger, too. Child molestation is a deviant pathological compulsion.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   8:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: war (#142)

I believe whatever is true. A child is more than likely to be molested by a family member than a stranger, too. Child molestation is a deviant pathological compulsion.

Put it this way I have seen studies/articles that say Homosexuals commit anywhere from 0% to 80% of all pedophile crimes in this country... Now you know the pro-gay are saying 0% and the anti-gay are saying 80%.... So that leaves the middle ground (medical studies and crime report studies) that are the most believable.... and they are in the 35-55% range..... Even if it is in the lower end of the 35-55% spectrum it's still a lot for a group who only makes up about 3% of the population of the US......

On top of that why is there a push going on right now to make Pedophilia a socially acceptable behavior????? (And I'll bet you $5 it's by the same groups that pushed to make Homosexuallity a socially acceptable behavior)!!!!

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-17   8:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Mad Dog (#140) (Edited)

give it a rest dog...not interested in what you have to say...I didn't read your post, nor will I. YOU are the one that proclaimed you are a "sword carrying Christian", not me. I haven't judged you, I've seen your actions, words, statements and your accusations. There is absolutely nothing coming from you that gives the slightest hint of Christian behavior... you are the Yukon of LF... shame on you. I hope you're as you say Dog...but there's a lot of hate spewing from a spirit filled soul if it's true.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-17   10:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: CZ82 (#143)

On top of that why is there a push going on right now to make Pedophilia a socially acceptable behavior?????

Not a very strong one if at all....rightly so. But, I'll take note of what it is that you care to pay attention to.

And I'll bet you $5 it's by the same groups that pushed to make Homosexuallity a socially acceptable behavior

Homosexuality is not more a "behavior" than heterosexuality is.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   10:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: war (#145)

Homosexuality is not more a "behavior" than heterosexuality is.

One is normal and one is perverted.

You must use the newspeak dictionary where pervert isn't in it anymore.

You have to use fewer and fewer words.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   10:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: war (#142)

I believe whatever is true.

A more accurate statement would be that you think you know what is true. And you believe that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   10:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: freedomsnotfree (#137)

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Actually we are called to judge.

You should quote the whole thing. It is saying to not be a hypocrite when you judge. Don't judge someone for something when you do the same thing.

If you search the Bible. It says to judge righteous judgement.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   10:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Ferret Mike (#127)

basically, anti-gay hysteria makes a good wedge issue

It separates the good from the evil. Or at leas the good from the stupid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   10:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: A K A Stone (#147)

I could stack 1% of what I know next to you and still make you look like a pygmy dwarf.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   10:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: war (#145)

Not a very strong one if at all....rightly so. But, I'll take note of what it is that you care to pay attention to.

Some here doth protesteth just a little too much to be believed.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: A K A Stone (#146)

You have to use fewer and fewer words.

Out of necessity, I do around you anyway...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   11:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: war (#150)

I could stack 1% of what I know next to you and still make you look like a pygmy dwarf.

I'm not interested in your knowledge of homo sex. I don't care if you do know a lot about it. It is not interesting in the least.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: war (#152)

Out of necessity, I do around you anyway...

Nice line.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: A K A Stone (#153)

I'm not interested in your knowledge of homo sex.

I know. You're a "hands on" kind of a guy.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   11:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: A K A Stone (#154)

=)

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   11:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: A K A Stone, Happy Quanzaa (#153)

I'm not interested in your knowledge of homo sex. I don't care if you do know a lot about it. It is not interesting in the least.

Then why do you appear to love and tolerate Homo sex when Happy Quanzaa posts about it?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: mininggold (#157)

Then why do you appear to love and tolerate Homo sex when Happy Quanzaa posts about it?

Happy posts negative true stuff about it. You two proclaim it as a virtue.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: A K A Stone (#149)

You are made so blind by your loyalty to your religious paradigm you've adopted you no longer know what is truly ethical and right from what is dogmatic and serves only the purpose of insuring structural loyalty to an intolerant mindset.

You are unwilling to grant people their rights and privileges as citizens if you and others in your particular set of fascist ideology doesn't like it and thinks it their duty to bully and harass them.

Until you wake up and smell the coffee that you don't control people not of your religious clique, you are going to be eternally unhappy, and always have the desire to try to be a bully in ways not your right to.

This is your problem, not that of homosexual people, people like me and others that support their rights as citizens, and those that will make you obey civil rights laws you violently oppose.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   11:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: A K A Stone (#158)

Happy posts negative true stuff about it.

CHALLENGE.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   11:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: A K A Stone (#158) (Edited)

Happy posts negative true stuff about it. You two proclaim it as a virtue.

He posts about it down to the minutist detail. There's nothing negative about it.

So does the Bible lie when it says that God made man in (H)his own image?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: A K A Stone (#158)

You don't do things like the Jesus model in your Bible would have you do it, and you don't care.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   11:12:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Ferret Mike (#159)

I don't take witches to seriously.

It is like the devil complaining about helping out a little old lady.

You don't know right from wrong most of the time. That is your problem not mine.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: mininggold (#161)

So does the Bible lie when it says that God made man in (H)his own image?

No.

Do you even know what an image is?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: mininggold (#161)

There's nothing negative about it.

Are you a lesbian?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Ferret Mike (#162)

You don't do things like the Jesus model in your Bible would have you do it, and you don't care.

These born agains think that grace makes up for behavior that continually mocks Jesus's words.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: A K A Stone (#163)

You only prove my point by reverting to a derisive high school bully model of behaviour where you try to make things personal to try to get me angry enough to lose control enough for you to possibly manipulate me.

It won't work.

I know your game, and it has no power to affect me.

You are once again merely your own worse enemy here.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   11:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: A K A Stone (#165)

Are you a lesbian?

He never discusses lesbians, only the voyeuristic type of male homosexuality which seems to interest quite a few here. Are you a latent Homo? You respond like one.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Ferret Mike (#167)

Mike you are a nice guy. You want to do right. You just don't know right from wrong. You have deceived yourself. You can undo it. But you have to let go of your hatred of things that are righteous and good. Your hatred of the truth is what makes you what you are.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: A K A Stone (#169)

Mike you are a nice guy. You want to do right. You just don't know right from wrong. You have deceived yourself. You can undo it. But you have to let go of your hatred of things that are righteous and good. Your hatred of the truth is what makes you what you are.

yet you continually mock Jesus' teachings and call God a liar.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: mininggold (#168)

You can't just say yes or no. Why the cloak of secrecy. You proclaim it a virtue. If you don't want us to know you don't have to answer and we can infer from your non answer.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: mininggold (#170)

yet you continually mock Jesus' teachings and call God a liar.

Actually that would be you. Well it is the truth.

Lets prove it again

I believe Jesus when he says he is the Son of God. That he will not admit anyone to heaven unless they come through him.

Do you believe Jesus or was he a liar?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: A K A Stone (#171)

You can't just say yes or no. Why the cloak of secrecy. You proclaim it a virtue. If you don't want us to know you don't have to answer and we can infer from your non answer.

Yet you are the one who allows...... no... actively encourages, graphic detail of male homosexual sex to be posted on his forum and you call me a Lezzy? LOLOLOLOL

You are being judged by YOUR behavior.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: A K A Stone (#169) (Edited)

"Mike you are a nice guy. You want to do right. You just don't know right from wrong. You have deceived yourself. You can undo it. But you have to let go of your hatred of things that are righteous and good. Your hatred of the truth is what makes you what you are."

now you try to play both roles of the 'good cop/bad cop' game.

I have a very well developed sense of what is right and wrong, and I am well educated in truths you blind yourself too.

This won't work either.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   11:26:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: mininggold (#173)

and you call me a Lezzy?

Actually I asked if you were because of your posts. I would have taken you at your word regardless of the answer. But you didn't answer for some strange reason.

If someone asked me if I was some homo. I surely wouldn't say none of your business. I'd say hell no.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: A K A Stone (#172)

Actually that would be you. Well it is the truth.

Lets prove it again

I believe Jesus when he says he is the Son of God. That he will not admit anyone to heaven unless they come through him.

Do you believe Jesus or was he a liar?

Jesus had other stipulations, which you ignore. Or do you believe that Satan doesn't believe in the power of Jesus too?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: mininggold (#173)

Yet you are the one who allows...... no... actively encourages, graphic detail of male homosexual sex to be posted on his forum

Actually I don't like that.

Would you please ping me to anything like that in the future. Thanks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: mininggold (#176)

Jesus had other stipulations, which you ignore. Or do you believe that Satan doesn't believe in the power of Jesus too?

Yes of course. I fall short all the time.

But you still never answered the question.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: A K A Stone (#175)

Actually I asked if you were because of your posts. I would have taken you at your word regardless of the answer. But you didn't answer for some strange reason.

If someone asked me if I was some homo. I surely wouldn't say none of your business. I'd say hell no.

And I asked you because of your consistent behavior. Are you a latent Homo? Your voyeuristic qualities toward male homo sex as expressed by your repeated behaviors on this forum would tend to say....Yes.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: A K A Stone (#178)

Yes of course. I fall short all the time.

But you still never answered the question.

When you can find one post of mine that leads you in that direction I will answer.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: A K A Stone (#172) (Edited)

"I believe Jesus when he says he is the Son of God. That he will not admit anyone to heaven unless they come through him.

Do you believe Jesus or was he a liar?"

You can believe he is the son of God all you want, but you still won't reach your goals of following him until you emulate his teachings in the New Testament.

How you act and what you say conflict with his model of behavior.

Is there any scripture where he mocks the religion of another?

Is there a scripture where he calls someone a dirty lesbian and mocks them in the manner of a bully?

I don't think so. When I read that religious text, I see someone quite a bit differently than the man you value being.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   11:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: mininggold (#180)

When you can find one post of mine that leads you in that direction I will answer.

There were a couple of questions.

I'm talking about the one about if Jesus was liar.

You can just answer now. Please.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Ferret Mike (#181)

Is there any scripture where he mocks the religion of another?

Yes. It is found in numerous places. Start with the 10 commandments.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:35:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: A K A Stone (#182)

I'm talking about the one about if Jesus was liar.

You can just answer now. Please.

You are trying to distract from your own behaviors which show you mocking the teachings of Jesus Christ every day on this forum.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: A K A Stone (#183)

That is the Old Testament and an off the subject red herring, stop changing the subject and stop ignoring the parts of Jesus' teachings inconvenient to your desire to manipulate, control and oppress others.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   11:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: mininggold (#184)

You are trying to distract from your own behaviors which show you mocking the teachings of Jesus Christ every day on this forum.

You gave no examples. Instead you just proved that it is you that mocks God. You just denied Jesus.

Thanks for playing.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Ferret Mike (#185)

That is the Old Testament and an off the subject red herring,

It is in the Bible. It is all one book.

It is you that brought up the subject.

Jesus quoted from the 10 commandments moron.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: A K A Stone (#186) (Edited)

ou gave no examples. Instead you just proved that it is you that mocks God. You just denied Jesus.

Thanks for playing.

And you continue with your Jesus mocking behaviors. Thanks for setting an example of a modern day, self professed, true blue, "Christian".

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: mininggold (#188)

Again. No denial of your denial of Christ.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: A K A Stone (#189)

Again. No denial of your denial of Christ.

By your inquisitions you think you are Christ and God all rolled into one. As you are an admittedly unrepentant sinner, I owe you no confession of any sort. You might be Satan for all I know, you certainly act the part.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: mininggold (#190)

But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: A K A Stone (#191) (Edited)

But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven.

YOU are not GOD.

You are an unrepentant sinner whose past behaviors proved full of sneaky ulterior motives. Even quite satanic at times.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: mininggold (#192)

YOU are not GOD.

No I am not God.

I am a man.

"But whosoever shall deny me before men"

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:55:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: A K A Stone (#193) (Edited)

I am a man.

"But whosoever shall deny me before men"

Then stop taking on the role. You have not proven trustworthy or even capable of minimally following Christ's teachings.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: mininggold (#194)

Then stop taking on the role.

Trace this thread. It is you that started this by claiming I mock God.

I just proved otherwise.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   12:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: mininggold (#192) (Edited)

That is his hands to ears, "La la la la la la, I hear nothing" phrase when the truth becomes too inconvenient to him.

He is distressed because he cannot effectively recruit others to his particularly odious for of social control, and even if he becomes angry enough to try to use his moderator's dashboard to bully and manipulate, he will still lose.

The simple truth is he has lost the thread of comprehending the very teachings he claims to value most; this of Jesus Christ in the New Testament. He doesn't want to admit this or try to see how this is so, but it is obvious to everyone else here what he is really all about, and he does not like that.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   12:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Ferret Mike, mininggold (#196)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   12:08:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: A K A Stone (#197)

Your problem is you seem to think you speak for God.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   12:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: A K A Stone (#195) (Edited)

Trace this thread. It is you that started this by claiming I mock God.

I just proved otherwise.

And you continue to mock. Why won't you listen to Jesus and abide by his teachings?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   12:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#196)

The simple truth is he has lost the thread of comprehending the very teachings he claims to value most; this of Jesus Christ in the New Testament. He doesn't want to admit this or try to see how this is so, but it is obvious to everyone else here what he is really all about, and he does not like that.

Some Christians reject the call to be like Christ and rely instead on forgiveness. This is known as cheap grace - it's what gives Christianity as a whole a bad name.

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-17   12:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: mininggold (#199)

And you continue to mock. Why won't you listen to Jesus and abide by his teachings?

Again it is you that mock God.

You talked about God creating us in his own image. Which is true.

But the way you said it implied that he condoned homosexual activity.

That is you mocking God plane as day.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   12:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: A K A Stone (#148)

...I agree Stone...it was MD that posted the quote originally...I was only replying to his quote...and yes, we are supposed to have a discerning spirit and judge a tree by it's fruit. Judging and sitting in judgement are to different things.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-17   15:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: mininggold (#176)

Jesus had other stipulations, which you ignore.

please state what these might be...I'm curious.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-17   15:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: freedomsnotfree (#144)

give it a rest dog...not interested in what you have to say...I didn't read your post, nor will I. YOU are the one that proclaimed you are a "sword carrying Christian", not me. I haven't judged you, I've seen your actions, words, statements and your accusations. There is absolutely nothing coming from you that gives the slightest hint of Christian behavior... you are the Yukon of LF... shame on you. I hope you're as you say Dog...but there's a lot of hate spewing from a spirit filled soul if it's true.

LOL!

I'm not surprised that a pussy such as you confuses PASSION with HATE.

You pitiful simpering faux "christian" little creep FRAUD.

You "aren't interested in what I say" in response to your oh so "Christian" comments about my own faith, eh COWARD?

LMAO!

I'm sure that you are not, you cowardly creep. I'm sure that you are the type who likes to hit people but is afraid of being hit in response?

Maybe from now on you should screw with infant children? They wouldn't be much of a threat to you coward.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are a base liar and a base hypocrite and an out and out cowardly FRAUD.

You set yourself above GOD.

You try to judge me and my faith, you gibbering hypocrite liar FRAUD. As if you had the right to do that, you sputtering hypocrite creep. Then you TRY to claim that you are a REAL "christian" as opposed to me.

What you are is an arrogant hypocrite, liar, FRAUD "christian".

You base HYPOCRITE, you base FRAUD.

CHRISTIANS are NOT required by our Lord to be the milquetoast pussies that you limp wristed faux "Christians" want us to be.

You are so stupid that you don't even understand what OUR Lord meant when he said to "turn the other cheek".

HYPOCRITE.

You are a whitewash TOMB.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   15:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: A K A Stone (#148)

You should quote the whole thing. It is saying to not be a hypocrite when you judge. Don't judge someone for something when you do the same thing.

It is also speaking of the judgement of other's FAITH.

Look out, or you'll get told how you aren't a REAL "Christian".

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   15:39:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: A K A Stone, Ferret Mike (#159)

.

LOL!

The pitiful HEATHEN weasel tries to lecture the Christian on Christianity.

What is WRONG with this picture?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   15:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: Mad Dog (#206)

The pitiful HEATHEN weasel tries to lecture the Christian on Christianity.

bully nazi weasel !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-01-17   15:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: BorisY (#207)

;^)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   15:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: Mad Dog (#204)

your actions and words speak so loudly about you, I can't hear a word you're saying...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-17   15:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: freedomsnotfree (#209)

.

LOL!

PROVING what we all here already know, that you are a FRAUD and a COWARD.

Gee who saw THAT coming eh?

What is the view from above GOD where you have tried to set yourself FRAUD?

BTW FRAUD, "TRUTH is an absolute defense".

You don't even know the difference between WORDS and ACTIONS you pitiful little FRAUD.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   16:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: Mad Dog, Ferret Mike (#129)

Nope, I prefer women my own age. I have no sympathy for pedophiles. That's TWO lies faggot.

Ok,here you are calling him a child molester in public as well as a homosexual,and also claiming he is lying.

Which means you somehow know more about his sex life than he does?

And you wonder why so many people call you nuts?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-17   16:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: meguro (#132)

The saddest part is that despite the insane obscene rants you see him spew in his typical posts,he really is a very bright guy.

My his rabies booster shots aren't up to date?

He is clearly off his meds.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-17   16:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: war (#142)

Child molestation is a deviant pathological compulsion.

Which means they can never be cured of it no matter what they try. Which means any that are caught and convicted should be put into a prison or a mental institution for life.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-17   16:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: CZ82 (#143)

Put it this way I have seen studies/articles that say Homosexuals commit anywhere from 0% to 80% of all pedophile crimes in this country...

It is a well-established truth that while figures never lie,liars are always figuring.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-17   16:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: sneakypete (#213)

Which means they can never be cured of it no matter what they try. Which means any that are caught and convicted should be put into a prison or a mental institution for life.

According to your logic. Fags should be put in jail forever too.

Because you think they were "boooooornnnn" that way.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   16:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: Mad Dog (#210)

I'm praying for you MD...I hope you find the peace in your soul you claim you have.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-17   16:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: sneakypete (#211)

Nope, I prefer women my own age. I have no sympathy for pedophiles. That's TWO lies faggot.

Ok,here you are calling him a child molester in public as well as a homosexual,and also claiming he is lying.

Which means you somehow know more about his sex life than he does?

And you wonder why so many people call you nuts?

You know petey, I already know that you are a deeply stupid person.

Lets go through it like in grade school so that MAYBE you can understand it.

Weasel boy said; "Nope, I prefer women my own age. I have no sympathy for pedophiles."

I said; "That's TWO lies faggot."

One LIE is that he prefers WOMEN, another LIE is that he prefers them his own age, another LIE is that he does NOT have sympathy for pedophiles.

That's a total of THREE LIES in weasel boy's statement moron, and not one of them could be inferred by any HONEST competent sane person to infer to say that HE IS A PEDOPHILE or child molester.

What's the matter FOOL? Can't you even read at a 6th grade level FOOL?

But then of course you are neither HONEST or SMART are you loser? Maybe in addition to the aforementioned you are already shitfaced DRUNK today FOOL?

I don't give a F what FOOLS call me FOOL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   17:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: sneakypete (#212)

.

Unlike YOU FOOL, NONE of my "meds" are for MENTAL or EMOTIONAL problems.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   17:17:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: freedomsnotfree (#216)

.

LOL!

Although PRAYERS for me from anybody are always welcomed, I seriously doubt that the Lord will hear your heathen babbling.

You should start by praying for YOURSELF FRAUD.

Btw FRAUD I already pray for YOU every night.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   17:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: A K A Stone (#201)

"But the way you said it implied that he condoned homosexual activity."

Where was it ever written that he condemned it? The mis-interpreted Old Testament passages don't count.

"That is you mocking God plane as day."

Who died and made you the spokesman for Christianity? Besides, you can't even plainly see that plain is not spelled plane. Which doesn't say much about your education level.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   17:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: Mad Dog (#206)

You don't have to be Christian to know the Bible. I had instruction in my youth before I was old enough to quit going to Church, and I have taken Bible study classes at Northwest Christian College next to the University of Oregon when I was going to school getting my degree there. I am a perpetual student of political thought and history.

Learning about something that has had much influence on Western Civilization just made good sense. You don't need to be a Christian to do that, just as I did not become a Muslim when I studied the Koran.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   17:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: Ferret Mike (#221)

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-01-17   17:46:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: BorisY (#222)

Heh, I don't watch football Boris. It's not a sport for everybody.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   17:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: Ferret Mike (#223)

Homosexual War ... on Christianity --- Continues to Rage

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2833847/posts

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-01-17   18:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: A K A Stone (#215) (Edited)

According to your logic. Fags should be put in jail forever too.

Because you think they were "boooooornnnn" that way.

You are confusing ignorance and superstition with fact and law.

It is VERY illegal to have sex with children. So illegal it is called rape.

It is NOT illegal to be a homosexual,though. You just want it to be and are confusing your wishes with actual facts.

Not only that,but you are NOT a conservative if you think what two or more adults do sexually and in private is a crime and it is the governments business to control the sex lives of consenting adults.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-17   18:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: Mad Dog (#217)

One LIE is that he prefers WOMEN, another LIE is that he prefers them his own age, another LIE is that he does NOT have sympathy for pedophiles.

And you "KNOW" this because the voices in your head told you,right?

And there you go off again,exhibiting all the maturity and intellect of a Special Education 11 year old on drugs.

You have no idea how foolish you look,do you?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-17   18:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: Mad Dog (#218)

, NONE of my "meds" are for MENTAL or EMOTIONAL problems.

Then someone has made a serious mistake and you should sue them for malpractice.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-17   18:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: Ferret Mike (#220)

Where was it ever written that he condemned it? The mis-interpreted Old Testament passages don't count.

You ARE kidding...right. Ever hear of Sodom & Gomarrah...every wonder where the word SODOMY came from. I guess that is a mis-interpretation also,...WOW! just think, ALL the followers of GOD had it wrong all this time...and FINALLY, those practising SODOMY actually have the correct interpretation...GO FIGURE!!

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-17   18:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: war (#145)

Not a very strong one if at all....rightly so. But, I'll take note of what it is that you care to pay attention to.

Why Are We Surprised With the Push for 'Pedophile Rights'

Michael Brown, Aug 26, 2011

Many Americans have been shocked by reports about a recent pro-pedophilia conference in Baltimore in which psychiatrists and other mental health professionals, representing institutions like Harvard and Johns Hopkins, sought to present pedophilia in a sympathetic and even positive light. But why should this surprise us?

Academic articles in scholarly journals have been presenting pedophilia in a sympathetic light for years, and, as Matthew Cullinan Hoffman noted, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) released a report in 1998 “claiming that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from their child sexual abuse experiences.’ It even claimed that large numbers of the victims reported that their experiences were ‘positive,’ and suggested that the phrase ‘child sex abuse’ be replaced with ‘adult-child sex.’” Others have coined the more disgusting term “intergenerational intimacy.”

The APA’s report was so disturbing that it drew an official rebuke from Congress, yet the pro-pedophile (or, pro-pederast) push continues. In fact, some psychiatric leaders, like Dr. Richard Green, who were instrumental in removing homosexuality from the APA’s list of mental disorders in 1973, have been fighting to remove pedophilia as well.

Consider, for example, this statement from the late John Hopkins professor John Money: “Pedophilia and ephebophilia [referring to sexual attraction felt by an adult toward an adolescent] are no more a matter of voluntary choice than are left-handedness or color blindness. There is no known method of treatment by which they may be effectively and permanently altered, suppressed, or replaced. Punishment is useless. There is no satisfactory hypothesis, evolutionary or otherwise, as to why they exist in nature’s overall scheme of things. One must simply accept the fact that they do exist, and then, with optimum enlightenment, formulate a policy of what to do about it.”

Now, go back and reread that paragraph, substituting the word “homosexuality” for “pedophilia” and “ephebophilia.” How interesting!

To help flesh this out, let’s picture a homosexual man making his case to a heterosexual man:

1) My homosexuality is not a sexual preference but a sexual orientation, just as much as your heterosexuality is not a sexual preference but a sexual orientation.

2) My homosexuality is just as normal as your heterosexuality.

3) Since my behavior is genetically determined and is not a choice, it is intolerant and hateful to suggest that it is wrong. And to call my sexual behavior illegal or immoral, or to refuse to legitimize same-sex relationships, is to be a moral bigot of the highest order.

4) I deeply resent your attempts to identify areas of my upbringing and environment as alleged causes for my homosexuality.

5) I categorically reject the myth that someone can change his or her sexual orientation. Rather, such statements only add to the anguish and suffering of gays and lesbians, and attempts to change us often lead to catastrophic consequences, including depression and suicide.

Now, let’s turn this around and have a pederast making his case to a homosexual, substituting the words accordingly (thus, “My pederasty is not a sexual preference but a sexual orientation, just as much as your homosexuality is not a sexual preference but a sexual orientation.”)

In point of fact, all the principle arguments commonly used to normalize homosexuality have been used to normalize pedophilia and pederasty, as I documented in painstaking (and painful) detail in A Queer Thing Happened to America, where I also made clear that I was not equating homosexuality with pedophilia but was instead comparing the arguments used to normalize both.

Here are the eight principle arguments, all of which (in modified form) are commonly used in support of homosexuality:

1) Pedophilia is innate and immutable.

2) Pederasty is richly attested in many different cultures throughout history.

3) The claim that adult-child sexual relationships cause harm is greatly overstated and often completely inaccurate.

4) Consensual adult-child sex can actually be beneficial to the child.

5) Pederasty should not be classified as a mental disorder, since it does not cause distress to the pederast to have these desires and since the pederast can function as a normal, contributing member of society.

6) Many of the illustrious homosexuals of the past were actually pedophiles.

7) People are against intergenerational intimacy because of antiquated social standards and puritanical sexual phobias.

8) This is all about love and equality and liberation.

But none of these arguments should surprise us. After all, the age of increasing sexual anarchy in which we live is a fruit of the sexual revolution of the 1960’s, and the seeds of sexual anarchy were sown already by Alfred Kinsey in the late 1940’s, as Prof. Judith Reisman has tirelessly documented. And it was Kinsey, after all, who relied on the research of pedophiles to document the sexual responses of infants and children.

All this, to be sure, is utterly unspeakable. But it should certainly come as no surprise. In fact, we should expect this and more.

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-17   18:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: sneakypete (#225)

Not only that,but you are NOT a conservative if you think what two or more adults do sexually and in private is a crime and it is the governments business to control the sex lives of consenting adults.

correct!!

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-17   18:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: Ferret Mike (#220)

you can't even plainly see that plain is not spelled plane.

Says the guy that goes around saying indorsement.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   20:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: freedomsnotfree, Ferret Mike (#228)

You ARE kidding...right. Ever hear of Sodom & Gomarrah...every wonder where the word SODOMY came from. I guess that is a mis-interpretation also,...WOW! just think, ALL the followers of GOD had it wrong all this time...and FINALLY, those practising SODOMY actually have the correct interpretation...GO FIGURE!!

What he said.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   20:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: sneakypete (#225)

Not only that,but you are NOT a conservative if you think what two or more adults do sexually and in private is a crime

Actually that has nothing to do with being a conservative. Pro or con.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   20:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: A K A Stone (#233) (Edited)

Actually that has nothing to do with being a conservative. Pro or con.

Yes it does,since the definition of a conservative is someone who is for maximum individual rights and limiting government power over individuals.

It's RELIGION that has nothing to do with being a conservative. Especially since all religions are about the power of the organization and the control over the followers.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-18   11:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: CZ82 (#229)

Someone out there advocates drinking piss for good health.

Is that a mainstream point of view?

Just because someone out there promoting an idea it does not mean that the idea is either viable or palpable.

So while you forth on about this, I'll keep from laughing as you mistake an extreme and minority position as being reflective of the mainstream.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-18   11:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: war (#235)

I'll keep from laughing as you mistake an extreme and minority position as being reflective of the mainstream.

So isn't that the same reason why Homosexuality became acceptable social behavior in the first place????? (Along with a shit load of lawsuits)!!!! And now that same minority position is pushing for pedophilia to become acceptable social behavior....

Let me know when one moves in next door to you and messes with your kids, I want to see your reaction...... that's if you don't end up in jail first.....

I just love people that wait till something has already happened before they whine about it, instead of correctly interpreting the writing on the wall and putting a stop to it before it ever happens.....

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-18   18:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: Ferret Mike (#223)

To: MrB

minorities - gays ... are the cool ones now --- the rest of us are total dorks who need to be mistreated

27 posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 05:59:35 by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2834919/posts

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-01-19   11:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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