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Title: Obama defies Senate, appointing consumer, labor officials
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URL Source: http://www.thesunnews.com/2012/01/0 ... a-make-recess-appointment.html
Published: Jan 4, 2012
Author: Lesley Clark and Tony Pugh
Post Date: 2012-01-04 23:22:22 by Mad Dog
Keywords: IMPEACH, this, INSANE COMMIE monster
Views: 136009
Comments: 237

WASHINGTON — A defiant President Barack Obama sidestepped Congress on Wednesday and appointed a new consumer watchdog, locking horns with Republicans, who immediately accused the president of exceeding his authority to appoint a director to an agency they oppose.

Speaking at a high school in the election battleground state of Ohio with his nominee for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau by his side, Obama struck a populist tone and blamed congressional Republicans for stalling the appointment of former Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray as “America’s consumer watchdog.”

“I’ve got an obligation to act on behalf of the American people,” the president said. “And I’m not going to stand by while a minority in the Senate puts party ideology ahead of the people that we were elected to serve.”

Obama defies Senate, appoints consumer and labor officials Obama defies Senate, appoints consumer and labor officials A defiant President Barack Obama sidestepped Congress on Wednesday and appointed a new consumer watchdog, locking horns with Republicans, who immediately accused the president of exceeding his authority to appoint a director to an agency they oppose.

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau opens Consumer Financial Protection Bureau opens The most tangible government reform to grow out of the Great Recession officially goes live this week when the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau assumes its regulatory authority on Thursday. Ex-Ohio attorney general picked to lead consumer finance watchdog agency Ex- Ohio attorney general picked to lead consumer finance watchdog agency President Barack Obama will nominate Richard Cordray, who as Ohio's attorney general was a leader in state policing of financial industry abuses, to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that formally opens its doors this week, the White House said Sunday.

Stirring up a fight, Obama names consumer watchdog Stirring up a fight, Obama names consumer watchdog Defying Republican lawmakers,

President Barack Obama on Wednesday barreled by the Senate and installed a national consumer watchdog on his own, provoking GOP threats of a constitutional showdown in the courts.

Setting a fierce tone in the election-year fight for middle-class voters, Obama said: "I refuse to take 'no' for an answer."

Senate Republicans block Obama nominee to head consumer finance agency Senate Republicans block Obama nominee to head consumer finance agency As expected, Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked a confirmation vote on President Barack Obama's choice to lead the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Hours later, the White House announced that Obama also had appointed three members to the National Labor Relations Board, in defiance of Senate Republicans.

In Ohio, the president noted that he'd nominated Cordray last summer to serve as a beat cop against deceptive, abusive and predatory loan products in the financial marketplace, but that Senate Republicans had blocked the appointment, not because Cordray was unqualified, but because “they don’t agree with the law that set up a consumer watchdog in the first place,” he said.

Senate Republicans have made clear that is, indeed, their motive.“They want to weaken the law. They want to water it down,” Obama said, adding that, “by the way, a lot of folks in the financial industry have poured millions of dollars to try to water it down.”

Senate Republicans blocked a confirmation vote on Cordray last month and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky accused Obama on Wednesday of making an unprecedented appointment, because the Senate isn't in official recess.

Traditionally, McConnell said, presidents make such appointments only when the Senate is in recess for 10 days or longer.

Obama has “arrogantly circumvented the American people,” McConnell said, adding that the move “lands this appointee in uncertain legal territory, threatens the confirmation process and fundamentally endangers the Congress’ role in providing a check on the excesses of the executive branch.

”He said that Republicans wanted structural changes to the agency, which was “subject to none of the checks that independent agencies normally operate under.”White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer accused Senate Republicans of coming up with a “gimmick” to prevent the president from exercising his recess appointment authority: being out of town for weeks but convening every few days in a “pro forma” session.Sarah Binder, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a center-left policy-research center, said the Constitution “doesn’t define what constitutes a valid recess for the purpose of the president’s proper exercise of the recess appointment power, leaving it open to interpretation.

”She said that in the most recent court case on the matter _ when the late Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., challenged the recess appointment of William Pryor to an appeals court by President George W. Bush _ the administration’s right to make a recess appointment on the seventh day of a 10-day intra-session recess was upheld.

The back and forth over Cordray underscores the partisan fighting that's characterized every development of the new consumer protection bureau, the most tangible government response to the nation's 2008 economic meltdown.

After failing last month to get the 60 votes needed for a straight up-or-down Senate confirmation vote on Cordray, Obama hinted that he might use a recess appointment to bypass the GOP filibuster that's left the new agency without a director since its regulatory authority began in July.

At the time, the president also voiced frustration over GOP efforts to delay his many other nominations, including federal judges and assistant treasury secretaries. Senate Republicans also have blocked appointments to the National Labor Relations Board; Obama appointed three members Wednesday.

The NLRB appointments allow the board to decide cases again. That authority was lost earlier this week when the five-member panel was down to only two members and was unable to field a quorum. Kimberly Freeman Brown, the executive director of American Rights at Work, commended the president’s NLRB appointments.“Without a functioning board, employers and employees alike would have been stuck in legal limbo on a range of critical issues, including the rights of certain workers to form unions and the appropriate use of social media to discuss workplace concerns,” Brown said.Created by the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial overhaul law, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau monitors deceptive, abusive and predatory loan products in the financial marketplace.

A division of the Federal Reserve,

the bureau works as a stand-alone agency to make sure consumers understand the terms of loan products by reducing fine print, simplifying forms and helping to illuminate costly penalties and fees that often are hidden.Senate Republicans see the bureau as a vast overreach of government authority and have blocked any nominee for director until the agency's structure is revamped.

Without a director, the bureau could examine and oversee large banks, but it couldn't oversee non-depository institutions such as mortgage companies, payday lenders and credit bureaus.The U.S. Chamber of Commerce decried Obama’s move as “unprecedented, constitutionally questionable” and said it put the authority of the director and the bureau’s work “in legal jeopardy.”

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#131. To: CZ82 (#130) (Edited)

The overwhelming number of child molesters are NOT in any kind of consensual adult relationship.

Those who do have are overwhelmingly heterosexual.

Oh...and 25% of child molestations are done by people under the age of 18.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-16   19:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: sneakypete (#35)

The saddest part is that despite the insane obscene rants you see him spew in his typical posts,he really is a very bright guy.

My his rabies booster shots aren't up to date?

meguro  posted on  2012-01-16   21:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Mad Dog (#126)

"Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them"...what you show to the world is vile, vulgar, insulting and hate-filled...you can call yourself whatever you like...but I think you show yourself, with every post you make, to be THE fraud..posing as a Christian.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   22:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Ferret Mike (#127)

you didn't answer the question...if its' so normal, so "natural"...why can't you procreate and reproduce...in the animal world, you'd be a freak of nature, you would become non- existent, or taken out of the gene pool. All you can do is recruit...by promoting your lifestyle as "normal", usually to those MUCH younger. I don't care if you don't budge from your position...it matters not one bit to me...I have dealt with MANY homosexuals and I can tell you this...with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS...they are terrible messed up people with huge addiction/emotional/relationship problems. Why not normalize sex with the dead, animals or family members...those practising their perversion will ALWAYS try to convince the world they are NORMAL, when CLEARLY they ARE NOT.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   22:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: freedomsnotfree (#133)

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Unfortunately, for YOU, You are a HYPOCRITE and a total FRAUD.

.- Matthew 7:1 -.

New International Version (©1984) "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

New Living Translation (©2007) "Do not judge others, and you will not be judged.

English Standard Version (©2001) “Judge not, that you be not judged.

New American Standard Bible (©1995) "Do not judge so that you will not be judged.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

International Standard Version (©2008) "Stop judging, so that you won't be judged,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) You shall not judge, lest you be judged.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) "Stop judging so that you will not be judged.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003) Judge not, that you be not judged.

American King James Version Judge not, that you be not judged.

American Standard Version Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Douay-Rheims Bible JUDGE not, that you may not be judged,

Darby Bible Translation Judge not, that ye may not be judged;

English Revised Version Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Webster's Bible Translation Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Weymouth New Testament "Judge not, that you may not be judged;

World English Bible "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.

Young's Literal Translation 'Judge not, that ye may not be judged,

bible.cc/matthew/7-1.htm

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It is GOD'S place to judge us ALL, especially in matters of FAITH you simpering mealy mouthed HYPOCRITE FRAUD, not YOURS or any other human's.

That you find my vocabulary and syntax offensive is YOUR problem you HYPOCRITE FRAUD.

You should keep YOUR OWN judgement in mind HYPOCRITE.

Of course, the odds are that you aren't even a Christian.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   22:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: meguro (#132)

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Do you know what normal people call a creep who puts people on ignore and then talks about them?

A FAGGOT bitch.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   22:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Mad Dog (#135)

New International Version (©1984) "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

New Living Translation (©2007) "Do not judge others, and you will not be judged.

English Standard Version (©2001) “Judge not, that you be not judged.

New American Standard Bible (©1995) "Do not judge so that you will not be judged.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

International Standard Version (©2008) "Stop judging, so that you won't be judged,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) You shall not judge, lest you be judged.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) "Stop judging so that you will not be judged.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003) Judge not, that you be not judged.

American King James Version Judge not, that you be not judged.

American Standard Version Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Douay-Rheims Bible JUDGE not, that you may not be judged,

Darby Bible Translation Judge not, that ye may not be judged;

English Revised Version Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Webster's Bible Translation Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Weymouth New Testament "Judge not, that you may not be judged;

World English Bible "Don't judge, so that you won't be judged.

Young's Literal Translation 'Judge not, that ye may not be judged,

I think you better go back and read your posts MD. Moron, fraud, lier, HYPOCRITE FRAUD, Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, idiots and YOU PITIFUL little CULTIST FOOL are just a small sampling of the judging you've done...so who's the hypocrite fraud. What a horrible example you set as a Christian, a representative of our savior...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   23:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: freedomsnotfree (#137)

I think you better go back and read your posts MD. Moron, fraud, lier (sic.), HYPOCRITE FRAUD, Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, idiots and YOU PITIFUL little CULTIST FOOL are just a small sampling of the judging you've done...so who's the hypocrite fraud. What a horrible example you set as a Christian, a representative of our savior...

What a gibbering FRAUD you are .

The judging spoken of in scripture is of FAITH you gibbering FRAUD.

A real Christian would know that heathen.

I am as I am, an admitted SINNER, an in-complete Christian, who represents only MYSELF you gibbering FRAUD.

You see FRAUD, I'm not a hypocrite, I can't be regarding being a Christian, because I have NEVER pretended to be a perfect or even good Christian; and I freely admit that my sins are legion and crimson.

Unlike you, you mealy mouthed hypocrite FRAUD.

You are a whitewashed tomb, hypocrite.

You really ought to pay more attention to your own judgement FRAUD, more than to your ideas about what you "think" about the judgement of others. Especially since it's very likely that you are NO kind of Christian at all FRAUD.

Being a Christian doesn't mean that you are perfect, or in complete accordance with the Lord. It just means that you are a SINNER who has turned your self over to the Lord and thereby you are SAVED.

EVERY real Christian knows these basic things FRAUD.

Why don't YOU.

Oh yeah, you're just a FRAUD.

EVERY real Christian KNOWS these BASIC things FRAUD.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   0:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: freedomsnotfree (#134) (Edited)

All you can do is recruit...by promoting your lifestyle as "normal",

Yeah, but we all know you won't be recruited, right big guy? Incidentally, what's your lifestyle? Is it normal?

I have dealt with MANY homosexuals and I can tell you this...with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS...they are terrible messed up people with huge addiction/emotional/relationship problems.

About how many have you dealt with in your estimation? And in what capacity have you dealt with them?

meguro  posted on  2012-01-17   1:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: freedomsnotfree (#137)

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BTW FRAUD, Robert Service wrote this about YOU

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The Ballad of Pious Pete

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"The North has got him." —Yukonism.

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I tried to refine that neighbor of mine, honest to God, I did. I grieved for his fate, and early and late I watched over him like a kid. I gave him excuse, I bore his abuse in every way that I could; I swore to prevail; I camped on his trail; I plotted and planned for his good. By day and by night I strove in men's sight to gather him into the fold, With precept and prayer, with hope and despair, in hunger and hardship and cold. I followed him into Gehennas of sin, I sat where the sirens sit; In the shade of the Pole, for the sake of his soul, I strove with the powers of the Pit. I shadowed him down to the scrofulous town; I dragged him from dissolute brawls; But I killed the galoot when he started to shoot electricity into my walls.

God knows what I did he should seek to be rid of one who would save him from shame. God knows what I bore that night when he swore and bade me make tracks from his claim. I started to tell of the horrors of hell, when sudden his eyes lit like coals; And "Chuck it," says he, "don't persecute me with your cant and your saving of souls." I'll swear I was mild as I'd be with a child, but he called me the son of a slut; And, grabbing his gun with a leap and a run, he threatened my face with the butt. So what could I do (I leave it to you)? With curses he harried me forth; Then he was alone, and I was alone, and over us menaced the North.

Our cabins were near; I could see, I could hear; but between us there rippled the creek; And all summer through, with a rancor that grew, he would pass me and never would speak. Then a shuddery breath like the coming of Death crept down from the peaks far away; The water was still; the twilight was chill; the sky was a tatter of gray. Swift came the Big Cold, and opal and gold the lights of the witches arose; The frost-tyrant clinched, and the valley was cinched by the stark and cadaverous snows. The trees were like lace where the star-beams could chase, each leaf was a jewel agleam. The soft white hush lapped the Northland and wrapped us round in a crystalline dream; So still I could hear quite loud in my ear the swish of the pinions of time; So bright I could see, as plain as could be, the wings of God's angels ashine.

As I read in the Book I would oftentimes look to that cabin just over the creek. Ah me, it was sad and evil and bad, two neighbors who never would speak! I knew that full well like a devil in hell he was hatching out, early and late, A system to bear through the frost-spangled air the warm, crimson waves of his hate. I only could peer and shudder and fear—'twas ever so ghastly and still; But I knew over there in his lonely despair he was plotting me terrible ill. I knew that he nursed a malice accurst, like the blast of a winnowing flame; I pleaded aloud for a shield, for a shroud—Oh, God! then calamity came.

Mad! If I'm mad then you too are mad; but it's all in the point of view. If you'd looked at them things gallivantin' on wings, all purple and green and blue; If you'd noticed them twist, as they mounted and hissed like scorpions dim in the dark; If you'd seen them rebound with a horrible sound, and spitefully spitting a spark; If you'd watched IT with dread, as it hissed by your bed, that thing with the feelers that crawls— You'd have settled the brute that attempted to shoot electricity into your walls.

Oh, some they were blue, and they slithered right through; they were silent and squashy and round; And some they were green; they were wriggly and lean; they writhed with so hateful a sound. My blood seemed to freeze; I fell on my knees; my face was a white splash of dread. Oh, the Green and the Blue, they were gruesome to view; but the worst of them all were the Red. They came through the door, they came through the floor, they came through the moss-creviced logs. They were savage and dire; they were whiskered with fire; they bickered like malamute dogs. They ravined in rings like iniquitous things; they gulped down the Green and the Blue. I crinkled with fear whene'er they drew near, and nearer and nearer they drew.

And then came the crown of Horror's grim crown, the monster so loathsomely red. Each eye was a pin that shot out and in, as, squidlike, it oozed to my bed; So softly it crept with feelers that swept and quivered like fine copper wire; Its belly was white with a sulphurous light, it jaws were a-drooling with fire. It came and it came; I could breathe of its flame, but never a wink could I look. I thrust in its maw the Fount of the Law; I fended it off with the Book. I was weak—oh, so weak—but I thrilled at its shriek, as wildly it fled in the night; And deathlike I lay till the dawn of the day. (Was ever so welcome the light?)

I loaded my gun at the rise of the sun; to his cabin so softly I slunk. My neighbor was there in the frost-freighted air, all wrapped in a robe in his bunk. It muffled his moans; it outlined his bones, as feebly he twisted about; His gums were so black, and his lips seemed to crack, and his teeth all were loosening out. 'Twas a death's head that peered through the tangle of beard; 'twas a face I will never forget; Sunk eyes full of woe, and they troubled me so with their pleadings and anguish, and yet As I rested my gaze in a misty amaze on the scurvy-degenerate wreck, I thought of the Things with the dragon-fly wings, then laid I my gun on his neck. He gave out a cry that was faint as a sigh, like a perishing malamute, And he says unto me, "I'm converted," says he; "for Christ's sake, Peter, don't shoot!"

They're taking me out with an escort about, and under a sergeant's care; I am humbled indeed, for I'm 'cuffed to a Swede that thinks he's a millionaire. But it's all Gospel true what I'm telling to you— up there where the Shadow falls— That I settled Sam Noot when he started to shoot electricity into my walls.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-17   2:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: war (#131)

The overwhelming number of child molesters are NOT in any kind of consensual adult relationship.

Those who do have are overwhelmingly heterosexual.

Oh...and 25% of child molestations are done by people under the age of 18.

So you believe that????

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-17   8:03:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: CZ82 (#141)

I believe whatever is true. A child is more than likely to be molested by a family member than a stranger, too. Child molestation is a deviant pathological compulsion.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   8:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: war (#142)

I believe whatever is true. A child is more than likely to be molested by a family member than a stranger, too. Child molestation is a deviant pathological compulsion.

Put it this way I have seen studies/articles that say Homosexuals commit anywhere from 0% to 80% of all pedophile crimes in this country... Now you know the pro-gay are saying 0% and the anti-gay are saying 80%.... So that leaves the middle ground (medical studies and crime report studies) that are the most believable.... and they are in the 35-55% range..... Even if it is in the lower end of the 35-55% spectrum it's still a lot for a group who only makes up about 3% of the population of the US......

On top of that why is there a push going on right now to make Pedophilia a socially acceptable behavior????? (And I'll bet you $5 it's by the same groups that pushed to make Homosexuallity a socially acceptable behavior)!!!!

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-17   8:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Mad Dog (#140) (Edited)

give it a rest dog...not interested in what you have to say...I didn't read your post, nor will I. YOU are the one that proclaimed you are a "sword carrying Christian", not me. I haven't judged you, I've seen your actions, words, statements and your accusations. There is absolutely nothing coming from you that gives the slightest hint of Christian behavior... you are the Yukon of LF... shame on you. I hope you're as you say Dog...but there's a lot of hate spewing from a spirit filled soul if it's true.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-17   10:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: CZ82 (#143)

On top of that why is there a push going on right now to make Pedophilia a socially acceptable behavior?????

Not a very strong one if at all....rightly so. But, I'll take note of what it is that you care to pay attention to.

And I'll bet you $5 it's by the same groups that pushed to make Homosexuallity a socially acceptable behavior

Homosexuality is not more a "behavior" than heterosexuality is.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   10:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: war (#145)

Homosexuality is not more a "behavior" than heterosexuality is.

One is normal and one is perverted.

You must use the newspeak dictionary where pervert isn't in it anymore.

You have to use fewer and fewer words.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   10:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: war (#142)

I believe whatever is true.

A more accurate statement would be that you think you know what is true. And you believe that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   10:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: freedomsnotfree (#137)

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Actually we are called to judge.

You should quote the whole thing. It is saying to not be a hypocrite when you judge. Don't judge someone for something when you do the same thing.

If you search the Bible. It says to judge righteous judgement.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   10:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Ferret Mike (#127)

basically, anti-gay hysteria makes a good wedge issue

It separates the good from the evil. Or at leas the good from the stupid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   10:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: A K A Stone (#147)

I could stack 1% of what I know next to you and still make you look like a pygmy dwarf.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   10:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: war (#145)

Not a very strong one if at all....rightly so. But, I'll take note of what it is that you care to pay attention to.

Some here doth protesteth just a little too much to be believed.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: A K A Stone (#146)

You have to use fewer and fewer words.

Out of necessity, I do around you anyway...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   11:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: war (#150)

I could stack 1% of what I know next to you and still make you look like a pygmy dwarf.

I'm not interested in your knowledge of homo sex. I don't care if you do know a lot about it. It is not interesting in the least.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: war (#152)

Out of necessity, I do around you anyway...

Nice line.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: A K A Stone (#153)

I'm not interested in your knowledge of homo sex.

I know. You're a "hands on" kind of a guy.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   11:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: A K A Stone (#154)

=)

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   11:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: A K A Stone, Happy Quanzaa (#153)

I'm not interested in your knowledge of homo sex. I don't care if you do know a lot about it. It is not interesting in the least.

Then why do you appear to love and tolerate Homo sex when Happy Quanzaa posts about it?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: mininggold (#157)

Then why do you appear to love and tolerate Homo sex when Happy Quanzaa posts about it?

Happy posts negative true stuff about it. You two proclaim it as a virtue.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: A K A Stone (#149)

You are made so blind by your loyalty to your religious paradigm you've adopted you no longer know what is truly ethical and right from what is dogmatic and serves only the purpose of insuring structural loyalty to an intolerant mindset.

You are unwilling to grant people their rights and privileges as citizens if you and others in your particular set of fascist ideology doesn't like it and thinks it their duty to bully and harass them.

Until you wake up and smell the coffee that you don't control people not of your religious clique, you are going to be eternally unhappy, and always have the desire to try to be a bully in ways not your right to.

This is your problem, not that of homosexual people, people like me and others that support their rights as citizens, and those that will make you obey civil rights laws you violently oppose.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   11:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: A K A Stone (#158)

Happy posts negative true stuff about it.

CHALLENGE.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-17   11:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: A K A Stone (#158) (Edited)

Happy posts negative true stuff about it. You two proclaim it as a virtue.

He posts about it down to the minutist detail. There's nothing negative about it.

So does the Bible lie when it says that God made man in (H)his own image?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: A K A Stone (#158)

You don't do things like the Jesus model in your Bible would have you do it, and you don't care.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   11:12:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Ferret Mike (#159)

I don't take witches to seriously.

It is like the devil complaining about helping out a little old lady.

You don't know right from wrong most of the time. That is your problem not mine.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: mininggold (#161)

So does the Bible lie when it says that God made man in (H)his own image?

No.

Do you even know what an image is?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: mininggold (#161)

There's nothing negative about it.

Are you a lesbian?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Ferret Mike (#162)

You don't do things like the Jesus model in your Bible would have you do it, and you don't care.

These born agains think that grace makes up for behavior that continually mocks Jesus's words.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: A K A Stone (#163)

You only prove my point by reverting to a derisive high school bully model of behaviour where you try to make things personal to try to get me angry enough to lose control enough for you to possibly manipulate me.

It won't work.

I know your game, and it has no power to affect me.

You are once again merely your own worse enemy here.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-17   11:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: A K A Stone (#165)

Are you a lesbian?

He never discusses lesbians, only the voyeuristic type of male homosexuality which seems to interest quite a few here. Are you a latent Homo? You respond like one.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Ferret Mike (#167)

Mike you are a nice guy. You want to do right. You just don't know right from wrong. You have deceived yourself. You can undo it. But you have to let go of your hatred of things that are righteous and good. Your hatred of the truth is what makes you what you are.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: A K A Stone (#169)

Mike you are a nice guy. You want to do right. You just don't know right from wrong. You have deceived yourself. You can undo it. But you have to let go of your hatred of things that are righteous and good. Your hatred of the truth is what makes you what you are.

yet you continually mock Jesus' teachings and call God a liar.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-17   11:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: mininggold (#168)

You can't just say yes or no. Why the cloak of secrecy. You proclaim it a virtue. If you don't want us to know you don't have to answer and we can infer from your non answer.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-17   11:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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