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Title: Obama defies Senate, appointing consumer, labor officials
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URL Source: http://www.thesunnews.com/2012/01/0 ... a-make-recess-appointment.html
Published: Jan 4, 2012
Author: Lesley Clark and Tony Pugh
Post Date: 2012-01-04 23:22:22 by Mad Dog
Keywords: IMPEACH, this, INSANE COMMIE monster
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WASHINGTON — A defiant President Barack Obama sidestepped Congress on Wednesday and appointed a new consumer watchdog, locking horns with Republicans, who immediately accused the president of exceeding his authority to appoint a director to an agency they oppose. Speaking at a high school in the election battleground state of Ohio with his nominee for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau by his side, Obama struck a populist tone and blamed congressional Republicans for stalling the appointment of former Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray as “America’s consumer watchdog.” “I’ve got an obligation to act on behalf of the American people,” the president said. “And I’m not going to stand by while a minority in the Senate puts party ideology ahead of the people that we were elected to serve.” Obama defies Senate, appoints consumer and labor officials Obama defies Senate, appoints consumer and labor officials A defiant President Barack Obama sidestepped Congress on Wednesday and appointed a new consumer watchdog, locking horns with Republicans, who immediately accused the president of exceeding his authority to appoint a director to an agency they oppose. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau opens Consumer Financial Protection Bureau opens The most tangible government reform to grow out of the Great Recession officially goes live this week when the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau assumes its regulatory authority on Thursday. Ex-Ohio attorney general picked to lead consumer finance watchdog agency Ex- Ohio attorney general picked to lead consumer finance watchdog agency President Barack Obama will nominate Richard Cordray, who as Ohio's attorney general was a leader in state policing of financial industry abuses, to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that formally opens its doors this week, the White House said Sunday. Stirring up a fight, Obama names consumer watchdog Stirring up a fight, Obama names consumer watchdog Defying Republican lawmakers, President Barack Obama on Wednesday barreled by the Senate and installed a national consumer watchdog on his own, provoking GOP threats of a constitutional showdown in the courts. Setting a fierce tone in the election-year fight for middle-class voters, Obama said: "I refuse to take 'no' for an answer." Senate Republicans block Obama nominee to head consumer finance agency Senate Republicans block Obama nominee to head consumer finance agency As expected, Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked a confirmation vote on President Barack Obama's choice to lead the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Hours later, the White House announced that Obama also had appointed three members to the National Labor Relations Board, in defiance of Senate Republicans. In Ohio, the president noted that he'd nominated Cordray last summer to serve as a beat cop against deceptive, abusive and predatory loan products in the financial marketplace, but that Senate Republicans had blocked the appointment, not because Cordray was unqualified, but because “they don’t agree with the law that set up a consumer watchdog in the first place,” he said. Senate Republicans have made clear that is, indeed, their motive.“They want to weaken the law. They want to water it down,” Obama said, adding that, “by the way, a lot of folks in the financial industry have poured millions of dollars to try to water it down.” Senate Republicans blocked a confirmation vote on Cordray last month and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky accused Obama on Wednesday of making an unprecedented appointment, because the Senate isn't in official recess. Traditionally, McConnell said, presidents make such appointments only when the Senate is in recess for 10 days or longer. Obama has “arrogantly circumvented the American people,” McConnell said, adding that the move “lands this appointee in uncertain legal territory, threatens the confirmation process and fundamentally endangers the Congress’ role in providing a check on the excesses of the executive branch. ”He said that Republicans wanted structural changes to the agency, which was “subject to none of the checks that independent agencies normally operate under.”White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer accused Senate Republicans of coming up with a “gimmick” to prevent the president from exercising his recess appointment authority: being out of town for weeks but convening every few days in a “pro forma” session.Sarah Binder, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a center-left policy-research center, said the Constitution “doesn’t define what constitutes a valid recess for the purpose of the president’s proper exercise of the recess appointment power, leaving it open to interpretation. ”She said that in the most recent court case on the matter _ when the late Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., challenged the recess appointment of William Pryor to an appeals court by President George W. Bush _ the administration’s right to make a recess appointment on the seventh day of a 10-day intra-session recess was upheld. The back and forth over Cordray underscores the partisan fighting that's characterized every development of the new consumer protection bureau, the most tangible government response to the nation's 2008 economic meltdown. After failing last month to get the 60 votes needed for a straight up-or-down Senate confirmation vote on Cordray, Obama hinted that he might use a recess appointment to bypass the GOP filibuster that's left the new agency without a director since its regulatory authority began in July. At the time, the president also voiced frustration over GOP efforts to delay his many other nominations, including federal judges and assistant treasury secretaries. Senate Republicans also have blocked appointments to the National Labor Relations Board; Obama appointed three members Wednesday. The NLRB appointments allow the board to decide cases again. That authority was lost earlier this week when the five-member panel was down to only two members and was unable to field a quorum. Kimberly Freeman Brown, the executive director of American Rights at Work, commended the president’s NLRB appointments.“Without a functioning board, employers and employees alike would have been stuck in legal limbo on a range of critical issues, including the rights of certain workers to form unions and the appropriate use of social media to discuss workplace concerns,” Brown said.Created by the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial overhaul law, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau monitors deceptive, abusive and predatory loan products in the financial marketplace. A division of the Federal Reserve, the bureau works as a stand-alone agency to make sure consumers understand the terms of loan products by reducing fine print, simplifying forms and helping to illuminate costly penalties and fees that often are hidden.Senate Republicans see the bureau as a vast overreach of government authority and have blocked any nominee for director until the agency's structure is revamped. Without a director, the bureau could examine and oversee large banks, but it couldn't oversee non-depository institutions such as mortgage companies, payday lenders and credit bureaus.The U.S. Chamber of Commerce decried Obama’s move as “unprecedented, constitutionally questionable” and said it put the authority of the director and the bureau’s work “in legal jeopardy.”
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. This INSANE COMMIE monster MUST be DEFEATED. He has made a direct challenge to the US CONSTITUTION right here, Hey but what de F! eh gurls? RONNIEPAULIERONNIEPAULIERONNIEPAULIERONNIEPAULIERONNIEPAULIERONNIEPAULIERONNIEP AULIERONNIEPAULIE RIGHT? BUT fill in dotted line repukelican't candidate for President did fill in dotted line is fill in dotted line right? F' the active disassembly of OUR RULE OF LAW every instant of this ILLEGAL regime, what's important is fill in dotted line. Right? Are you PHUCKING people INSANE? IMPEACH THIS INSANE COMMIE MONSTER YESTERDAY. This is NOT a PHUCKING drill.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
. Don't you like your President who YOUR vote help elect CULT boy? especially wearing the CMH? Only ignorant, lazy, shallow "thinker" FOOLS believe that "the two parties are the same". I'm waiting for the repukelican't messiah "king" obammy. Oh yeah "it was all de ebil BOOOOOOSH'S fault", right you CULT boy moron? EVERY vote that RonniePaulie takes in his coming third party run will be a vote FOR the messiah "king" obammy. F' ing CULTIST IDIOTS.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
You are talking about the Republican Party People,of course. The ones that elected and miss the Bush Crime Family that helped hire the current denizen living in the WH. After all,the definition of insanity is when you keep doing the same thing and keep expecting different results. Which is what you do when you keep voting for the usual suspects. Last time the Party People fell in line behind John McLunatic as the "conservative savior". I have no doubt you will do the same this time for Romney.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Obama defies the GOP minority in the Senate, appointing consumer, labor officials FIXED.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
FIXED. Time for an honesty test war. Was this unconstitutional? a. Yes it is. You are not informed or you are a liar, which is it? b. No it isn't. you are not a liar and you are informed.
Yes, that's true...you're glorious saviour in the republican party will do NOTHING about any of these issue...not ONE thing. 1) is the TSA going to be dismantled 2) the IRS going to be phased out 3) the Federal Reserve phased out 4) unconstitutional agencies abolished 5) these fake wars ended 6) NDAA repealed 7) Patriot Act repealed 8) 1 Trillion in spending cut the first year 9) Obamacare repealed The ONLY one even talking about these issues is Paul. The fact YOU don't see that BOTH parties are own by the global interests doesn't mean others don't see it. Bush, with his open borders, Patriot act, free trade the Constitution is "just a GD piece of paper", was just as bad as Obama...the difference is the can has been kicked farther down the road and the blatant acts of treason that go with it. Educate yourself and stop acting like a fool...
It was not unconstitutional. The US Congress is in recess until January 17th.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
. As usual you simpering libTURD whore, you get it wrong. Nobody disputes that recess appointments are legal. The point is whore, is that the SENATE is in PRO FORMA SESSION RIGHT PHUCKING NOW YOU vile shit stain on the face of AMERICA. In other words you steaming pile of shit, YOUR messiah has declared the senate to be in recess when it is NOT. In other words you steaming pile of shit, YOUR messiah has complete CONTEMPT for the rule of LAW and the US CONSTITUTION. YOU ARE wannabe tyrannical FILTH. What makes you think that I give a F' what YOU have to say you LYING piece of anti- CONSTITUTIONAL shit? In fact you repulsive puss filled shit bag, put me on ignore and don't ever address your filth to me ever again you simpering little bitch. Save your LIES for the weak minded libTURDS who infest this nation punk. Eat Sh!t and DIE.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
F' ing CULTIST IDIOTS. You are talking about the Republican Party People,of course. The ones that elected and miss the Bush Crime Family that helped hire the current denizen living in the WH. After all,the definition of insanity is when you keep doing the same thing and keep expecting different results. Which is what you do when you keep voting for the usual suspects. Last time the Party People fell in line behind John McLunatic as the "conservative savior". I have no doubt you will do the same this time for Romney. Yep petey I was and AM talking about CULTIST fools such as YOU. You absurd gibbering CULTIST simpleton The F' ing SHIP HAS HIT THE ICEBERG OBAMMY and you gibbering CULTIST simpletons are running around pointing fingers at people long GONE from the scene. Searching to pin the BLAME on them. ALL that you F' ing gibbering CULTIST gerbils are doing is rearranging the deck chairs on the TITANTIC. You are pitiful, and YOU are helping obammy et. al. to MURDER AMERICA. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, YOU are supposed to know better. FOOL.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Yes, that's true...you're glorious saviour in the republican party will do NOTHING about any of these issue...not ONE thing. The ONLY one even talking about these issues is Paul. The fact YOU don't see that BOTH parties are own by the global interests doesn't mean others don't see it. Bush, with his open borders, Patriot act, free trade the Constitution is "just a GD piece of paper", was just as bad as Obama...the difference is the can has been kicked farther down the road and the blatant acts of treason that go with it. Educate yourself and stop acting like a fool... LOL! First, you gibbering CULTIST azzwipe, "you're" is a contraction of YOU ARE. You make absolutely ZERO sense CULT boy. Which is SOP for you paulTARDS azzwipes. Second, you gibbering CULTIST azzwipe, you need to educate yourself and stop acting like a FOOL .......................................................................... Why ron paul has ZERO chance to win the republican presidential primary Posted by mikeymike143 (Diary) 1. His foreign policy ideas are simply the same recycled bad ideas that Jimmy Carter had. A foreign policy of ”let’s hide our head in the sand like an ostrich and blame big bad America and hope that everyone leaves us alone” is not only ignorant, but also dangerous for our country. And the big winners in last November’s elections were the ones who espoused ”american exceptionalism”, not the ones who espoused ”anti-american apologism”. Now I will admit Ron Paul’s foreign policy message would go over well with the Code Pink/Dennis Kucinich voters, but those type of people tend to be Democrats, not Republicans. One of my facebook friends put it best when he said ”if Ron Paul had been president during World War 2, we would all be speaking German now”. 2. He has no real political power. And this was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in 2008. Yes, he can win any ONLINE presidential poll. So what. In 2007 the paulbots hijacked the same online polls and Ron Paul won them all. His followers then posed articles all over the internet touting his candidacy. He then suckered his gullible followers telling them that the ”polls showed he could win” and send to him money. Then came the 2008 primaries. Out of the 50 states that were availible for Ron Paul to win, guess how many he won? ZERO. And that is spelled Z-E-R-O. Now let’s go to the present day. His internet saavy paulbots are again winning all the online and straw polls for their idol. His followers are again posting articles about him like he actually has a legitimate chance to win. Next is going to come the annual ”moneybomb” when Ron Paul once again fleeces his followers by pointing out that he is ahead in the polls and has a chance to win this time. But their delusional fantasy is going to run into a buzzsaw called Republican primary voters. Paul got absolutely destroyed when he ran in 1988, got whipped by John McCain in 2008, and he will be a three time loser in 2012. 3. There are plenty of people who are ”one issue voters” in politics. And in the Republican party there are plenty of people that ”opposition to islam” is the one issue they feel strongly about. You can go to any anti islam or conservative jewish site and see that the two politicians that are diliked the most are Obama and Ron Paul. Ron Paul has said ”I don’t believe for one minute the religion of islam is our enemy”. And Paul also attacked the Sunshine Patriots for their oppostion to the ground zero mosque. Now i am not going to debate the muslim issue here, but the fact that a decent sized voting group in your own party considers you one of their main foes is certainly not good news for your campaign. Now to be fair, you will get the people who think Israel is oppressing Palestine and the pro muslim agenda voters will be on Paul’s side. The only problem with that is almost all of that crowd are Democrats who support Obama. 4. Let’s look at Ron Paul’s position on crack cocaine and heroin. Now I am totally fine with legalizing pot and prostitution in any state if the voters want it. If somebody wants to get laid or smoke a joint it sure isn’t any of my business. But we are talking about legalizing hard drugs because Ron Paul says that the government is unconstitutionally sticking its nose in peoples business by not allowing it. I say once it becomes legal, who is going to cover the costs of the people that get addicted to it to go to rehab or treatment centers. And please don’t say the addict. Probably the government will have to. Great, now here comes a great big expansion of government to fight the drug war that was ”caused by the tea party candidate”. Which by the way, I as a taxpayer will have to cover. Increased police and court costs etc, etc. But the issue isn’t what I think or Ron Paul thinks, the issue is what does the Republican primary voter think of this policy. The ”religious right” will certainly oppose it full force. And I would think that anyone that has had a family member suffer through the addiction process will be opposed to it. That’s two groups opposed. Of course, Paul will pick up the ”left wing hippie” vote and the anarchists vote. Except the left wing hippies are already card carrying members of the Democratic party. And all the anarchists who want to overthrow big bad America are already his supporters. 5. If he were alive today, Ronald Reagan would strongly oppose him. Reagan believed in spending generously on our national defense and certainly had an interventionist foreign policy. And according to the Ron Paul playbook, that would make the greatest president of my era ”a neocon”. Their policies and beliefs are totally and completely different. Naturally Ron Paul’s followers will attempt to hide that fact by showing you an old video of Ronald Reagan praising Ron Paul as a candidate and using that as proof that Ronald Reagan would support Ron Paul in 2012. Now watch me dismantle that silly argument!!! Does anyone remember Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania? Arlen was the senator that everyone on tea party and conservative sites called a liberal RINO. He was challenged by a tea party backed conservative in the primary named Pat Toomey and when Specter saw how opposed conservatives were to his candidacy he changed parties to Democrat. He voted for TARP, Obama’s socialized health care plan, and was pro affirmative action and amnesty. Yet, Reagan praised him as a true conservative back in the 198082;s and even cut a campaign ad for him. But go ask a Pennsylvania tea partier what they think of Specter today. LOL. If you were a House or Senate member, and of course running as a Republican, Ronald Reagan would praise you as a candidate for office. That’s part of what a sitting president does for members of his party. But rather than look at a 30 year old video let’s look at Ron Paul has to say about Ronald Reagan. In 1987, Ron Paul wrote a letter to Frank Fahrenkopf, chairman of the Republican National Committee, starting that he wanted to totally publically disassociate himself with the policies of Ronald Reagan(funny but he yet to publically disassociate with the 9-11 truther movement or Code Pink). He later told the Dallas Morning News that the presidency of Ronald Reagan was a ”dramatic failure”. OK, let’s take a look at the political success of both politicians and decide if that is true. In 2008 Ron Paul ran in the Republican primary for president. He got 5% of the vote. In other words, 19 OUT OF 20 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY VOTERS DID NOT VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE LAST ELECTION. In 1984, Ronald Reagan was reelected as the president of the United States in a landslide, winning 49 out of 50 states, and his 525 electoral votes were the the most of any candidate in American history. Hmmm, I think we have to score this one for the Gipper. 6. Illegal Immigration. According to the highly respected anti immigation group NUMBERS USA, Ron Paul has the lowest grade of any Republican presidential candidate out there, coming in with an F. Naturally, his paulbots try to put a spin on this by saying ”welfare and benefit programs should be unconsititutional so illegal immigrants wont come here”. If Ron Paul threw puppies off a tall building his hynoptized followers would be applauding and yelling it was ”constitutional”. That argument wont cut it with the voters. Polls overwhelmingly show that Americans are in favor of closing our borders and against all forms of amnesty. And that really holds true with Republican voters. April has posted articles by former Ron Paul allies like Tom Tancrdeo that blast Paul on the immigration issue. Yet again, Ron Paul thinks like a liberal Democrat, and in fact even has the same ”F” grade that NUMBERS USA gave Obama. 7. Paul’s pork problem. One thing career politicians learn to do is talk conservative while picking the taxpayers pocket for money. And ”Porkulus Paul” has this shady routine down pat. First of all, let’s go back to last November’s elections to get the proper perspective on this issue. The Republicans destroyed the Democrats on November 3 due to the energy and votes of the tea party!!!!! Now the tea party came in and deservedly wanted to flex it muscles. And decided to take a principled stand against the unethical practice of pork(earmarks). The fight against earmarks was led by the Tea Party Patriots(TPP) and other tea party and conservative groups against the pork loving Democrats. In fact, TPP leader Mark Meckler considered this such an important issue that he promised to run a tea party challenger against any Republican that accepted them. “We’ll do what we always do,” said Meckler. “Our members will put immense pressure on every senator to vote against earmarks. This is a fundamental issue — it’s both substantive and symbolic. Will they vote against the politics of the past or are they still stuck in it? This is a vote that will never go away, like TARP. Tea Partiers have long memories. Politicians have always taken advantage of the fact that voters have short memories, but we’ll know, we’ll remember, and in 2012 when they have aggressive, well-funded primary challengers, they’ll know why.” Then it came out that a Republican asked for 150 MILLION DOLLARS IN PORK FOR HIS DISTRICT!!! Surely this was a RINO. Maybe Olympia Snowe or Scott Brown? No, it was actually Ron Paul. U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) was one of only four House Republicans to break rank from the party and request earmarks despite a Republican Conference earmark moratorium. Paul sent 41 earmark requests totaling $157,093,544 for the 2011 Fiscal Year. Ron Paul is to the far left of the tea party on just about every major issue. Actually he looks just like a liberal Democrat to me. SAY NO TO THE FAR LEFT TURN, STAY RIGHT. NO PAUL IN 2012. ................................................................................ You stupid simpering CULT boy FOOL.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Under the rules of both chambers, the Senate and the House must be gaveled back into session - which requires a quorum (51 in the Senate) - after they have been gaveled into adjournment. The Senate was gaveled into adjournment on 12/20/11. A "pro forma" session may be held absent an adjournment. Simply showing up and declaring a "pro forma" session does not make it so. In 2007 and 2008, when the Senate held pro forma sessions, Harry Reid refused to gavel the Senate into adjourment and thus was able to hold pro forma sessions. Furthermore, the MINORITY party has NO POWER under the rules to declare any session...be it regular or pro forma. As usual, someone's cock got in your way of reality...thus your distraction.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, YOU are supposed to know better. FOOL. Blah,blah,insane bullshit,blah. Tell us Buckwheat,how is voting for the lesser of two evils been working out for you since Reagan left office? Notice much change for the better? Ever caddy for Bubba Bill Bush and Poppy Bush? Notice how the country really swung to the right after Bob Dolt and John McLunatic ran as Clinton-Lite? And you wouldn't piss on me because you probably can't piss without getting your fingers wet.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Your mother should be ashamed of herself for giving birth to you,pussy-boy.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
How many times do you think you need to post that idiotic mikeymike thing?
You are so full of shit war. The office isn't even constitutional. Go ahead and show me constitutional authorization for the federal government for this "office". You can't but I'm sure you will make something up. You're good at making stuff up and spinning.
Can I have the complete list of Republicans you would vote for against Obama? The ones that are running. Thanks.
Thanks. Of course, Ron Paul.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
I posted the 2012 session calendar that is released by...the US CONGRESS. Do you see any order of business prior to that date? The office isn't even constitutional. It was created by an act of Congress under the explcit powers enumertated in the USCON to create departments of the US government. Article II Section II: He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments. As was pointed out previsouly, the only "office" that is created in the USCON outside of the three branches of government is the USPS.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Ron Paul. I thought that would be your answer. I'm not really sure. I prefer Ron Paul. But if someone else gets it. I may vote for them. My hatred for Obama is very deep. Time will tell.
Not all acts congress passes are constitutional. There is no delegated authority for that office. You know that. But you are quite good at taking one word and spinning and running with it. It is what you are.
You use a lot of words without apparently having any clue as to what they mean. The "authority for that office" was "delegated" by an act of Congress in a piece of legislation known as "The Dodd Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protyection Act in which the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) was created. Intended to be a stand alone bureau, the department was operated under the auspices of the US Treasury Department until an independent head was to be appointed.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
The False Left-Right Paradigm and the Deception of the American People The truth is, there is no right or left. There is only right and wrong, freedom or tyranny. The party bosses and ardent followers would have you believe otherwise. They would have you believe that right is whatever particular party they belong to, and wrong is the political opposition. This might be true if the sides of today were genuine. Instead, both parties and most mainstream organizations funnel into the same end result: total control. While the left and right bicker publicly on "hot topics", the end result is the same, regardless of who is President, or who is in control of Congress. Less freedoms for individuals, less sovereignty for nations, losses of jobs through insane international agreements like NAFTA, the dilution of American culture, and the over extension of our military. It's been said that if you don't like what the Republicans are doing, vote for the Democrats, and if you don't like what Democrats are doing, vote Republican. It's set up like a game. I have my favorite team, and you have yours. I'll back my team no matter what, just as long as your team doesn't win. The problem is, both teams are full of scandalous figures who are so busy selling you and I out for their own personal gain, they have no time or desire to help our country in this time of need. While we Americans are busy cheering our favorite politicos and jeering our least favorites, both sides are pursuing the policy of the destruction of America. EVERY vote that RonniePaulie takes in his coming third party run will be a vote FOR the messiah "king" obammy. You know what? I am NOT voting for another big-government LIBERAL Republican. I'll vote third party if Congressman Paul does not get the nomination. NO ONE else owns my vote, not you, not the RNC. I'm disgusted with bleating sheep like you who don't have the balls to take a stand and support an honest, principled candidate who is head and shoulders above the rest and is not a shill for the New World Order. Poster comment : How many of the other so-called conservative candidates have spoken out about TSA abuses? The PATRIOT Act? How about the recently enacted National Defense Authorization Act? Has anyone besides Ron Paul stood against this abomination? Romney HASN"T EVEN READ IT!
"if you're not cop, you're little people" ..spot on my fellow lover of freedom and liberty...spot on.
poor, blind MD...still trying to convince everyone the earth is flat. Hopefully the blinders will come off as you mature...until then, you're rants are cheap entertainment...thanks
. You have my mother confused with your mother you vile piece of shit. BUT, that's you foul PaulTARD'S CULTIST'S SOP isn't it little "man"? You go against my family because I don't like RP? You aren't a little "man" petey, you are a vile little CUNT.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
How many times should the TRUTH be posted? There is no upper limit CULT boy.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
LOL! Your ignorance is invincible CULT boy. You pin headed CULTISTS really do think that you have discovered THE super DECODER ring of the US CONSTITUTION don't you? You actually believe that you have some "special" secret gnostic KNOWLEDGE, that the rest of us AMERICANS, (especially we CONSERVATIVES who despise your wee FRAUD hero), don't have! After all, you PaulTARDS are "SPECIAL"! Right CULT boy? LMAO! CULTIST IDIOTS. Gibber on loser. RP will NEVER be President and every vote for his coming third party run is a vote FOR the messiah "king" obammy.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
LOL! PROJECTION and DISPLACEMENT two of the oldest propaganda techniques! It's you PaulTARDS who are trying to make the case for the "flat earth" CULT boy. It's you CULT boys who are TRYING to convert a life long DC POLITICIAN with a + 30 year record of FAILURE, (according to the standards he himself has set). You are TRYING to convert this lifer DC CONgresscritter POLITICIAN into the SAVIOR of the US CONSTITUTION, which is simply ABSURD, to ANY HONEST OPEN MINDED, FAIR MINDED, INTELLECTUALLY HONEST, INDEPENDENT THINKER. Which leaves ALL of you PaulTARD CULTIST out. You are herd animals, and you are just the other side of the messiah "king" obammy CULT coin.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
How many of the other so-called conservative candidates have spoken out about TSA abuses? The PATRIOT Act? How about the recently enacted National Defense Authorization Act? Has anyone besides Ron Paul stood against this abomination? Romney HASN"T EVEN READ IT!
“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe Ping
“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe That was her view in 1996. It's 16 years later. Can we shoot them now???
...which apparently you are not. Look MD, your rants and temper tantrums do absolutely NOTHING to secure your position on issues...in fact just the opposite. Not only are you NOT taken seriously but you look childish, foolish and ignorant. Let's be clear...with the exception of Ron Paul, NO ONE the RNC has given us to chose between is going to change policy directions, NO ONE. The global elites own BOTH teams! At least with Obama we know we have a card carrying communist in the WH...with ANY of the RNC choices, we get the same, only paraded around, for the ignorant, as "conservative", for THIS reason Obama may actually be better for the country than one of the RNC elites...gridlock is not a bad thing and the military HATES Obama, so his chances of getting them to fire on Americans is close to nill. Serious, stop the rants...my guess is that they are beneath you...but that's only a guess.
Me either,but he seems like the only rational option. There damn sure aren't any other candidates that give a damn about preserving the Republic. My main objection to Paul is that he has zero charisma,and he doesn't even have "presidential hair". Both of which means the typical "undecided voter" isn't going to vote for him. They care nothing about any political stand that they don't see directly affecting THEM. All the care about are their "feelings" and appearances.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
The saddest part is that despite the insane obscene rants you see him spew in his typical posts,he really is a very bright guy.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
...not bright enough to look outside the box Sneaky...that will be his downfall.
. Piss off CULT boy. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
. Lets be CLEAR you talked sh!t about my mother, about my family, because I see what a FRAUD your wee hero RP is. That's straight up punk azzed pre-teen B!TCH behavior. You PaulTARDS should at least TRY to be intellectually HONEST, and TRY to work off of rational THOUGHTS not media LIES driven EMOTIONS. btw; I KNOW you punks all tooo well, so here is my reply CULT boys, "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" BARRY GOLDWATER (unlike RP, an actual, real CONSERVATIVE Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
. You mincing punk azzed little b!tch. I sh!t out smarter libertarians than you every day. If I was in a COMA I'd still be at least to the sixth power MORE aware and intelligent than you are on your best day you little pissant. "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" BARRY GOLDWATER (unlike RP, an actual, real CONSERVATIVE Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
You seem to be the local expert on that. You make Yu-Tard seem rational by comparison. You clearly have emotional problems.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
...MD breathlessly screams into the ether, as he stamps his feet and flails his little fist in the air...desperately trying to get attention as he throws his juvenile temper tantrum...Thanks MD, I needed a chuckle...HILARIOUS...!!!
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#2. To: Mad Dog, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0)
"The constitution's just a God damned piece of paper" ~George W. Bush 
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#3. To: hondo68 (#2)
#4. To: Mad Dog (#3)
F' ing CULTIST IDIOTS.
#5. To: Mad Dog (#0)
#6. To: war (#5)
Obama defies the GOP minority in the Senate, appointing consumer, labor officials
#7. To: Mad Dog (#3)
"the two parties are the same".
#8. To: A K A Stone (#6)
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#9. To: war (#5)
#10. To: sneakypete (#4)
#11. To: freedomsnotfree (#7)
"the two parties are the same".
#12. To: Mad Dog (#9)
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The point is whore, is that the SENATE is in PRO FORMA SESSION RIGHT PHUCKING NOW YOU vile shit stain on the face of AMERICA.
#13. To: Mad Dog (#10)
You are pitiful, and YOU are helping obammy et. al. to MURDER AMERICA.
#14. To: Mad Dog (#9)
#15. To: Mad Dog (#11)
#16. To: war (#8)
It was not unconstitutional. The US Congress is in recess until January 17th.
#17. To: sneakypete (#13)
#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)
Can I have the complete list of Republicans you would vote for against Obama? The ones that are running.
#19. To: A K A Stone (#16)
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You are so full of shit war.
#20. To: sneakypete (#18)
Of course,
#21. To: war (#19)
#22. To: A K A Stone (#21)
There is no delegated authority for that office.
#23. To: Mad Dog, A K A Stone, hondo68, freedomsnotfree, (#3)
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Only ignorant, lazy, shallow "thinker" FOOLS believe that "the two parties are the same".
#24. To: Deckard (#23)
#25. To: Mad Dog (#11)
#26. To: sneakypete (#14)
#27. To: We The People (#15)
How many times do you think you need to post that idiotic mikeymike thing?
#28. To: Deckard (#23)
I'm disgusted with bleating sheep like you who don't have the balls to take a stand and support an honest, principled candidate who is head and shoulders above the rest and is not a shill for the New World Order.
#29. To: freedomsnotfree (#25)
poor, blind MD...still trying to convince everyone the earth is flat. Hopefully the blinders will come off as you mature...until then, you're rants are cheap entertainment...thanks
#30. To: Mad Dog (#28)
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You pin headed CULTISTS really do think that you have discovered THE super DECODER ring of the US CONSTITUTION don't you?
#31. To: Deckard (#30)
#32. To: Bill D Berger (#30)
“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe
#33. To: Mad Dog (#29)
which is simply ABSURD, to ANY HONEST OPEN MINDED, FAIR MINDED, INTELLECTUALLY HONEST, INDEPENDENT THINKER.
#34. To: A K A Stone (#20)
I'm not really sure. I prefer Ron Paul.
#35. To: freedomsnotfree (#25)
poor, blind MD...still trying to convince everyone the earth is flat. Hopefully the blinders will come off as you mature...until then, you're rants are cheap entertainment...thanks
#36. To: sneakypete (#35)
#37. To: freedomsnotfree (#33)
#38. To: sneakypete (#35)
#39. To: freedomsnotfree (#36)
#40. To: Mad Dog (#38)
That's straight up punk azzed pre-teen B!TCH behavior.
#41. To: Mad Dog (#39)
I sh!t out smarter libertarians than you every day.
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