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Title: Obama defies Senate, appointing consumer, labor officials
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URL Source: http://www.thesunnews.com/2012/01/0 ... a-make-recess-appointment.html
Published: Jan 4, 2012
Author: Lesley Clark and Tony Pugh
Post Date: 2012-01-04 23:22:22 by Mad Dog
Keywords: IMPEACH, this, INSANE COMMIE monster
Views: 135792
Comments: 237

WASHINGTON — A defiant President Barack Obama sidestepped Congress on Wednesday and appointed a new consumer watchdog, locking horns with Republicans, who immediately accused the president of exceeding his authority to appoint a director to an agency they oppose.

Speaking at a high school in the election battleground state of Ohio with his nominee for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau by his side, Obama struck a populist tone and blamed congressional Republicans for stalling the appointment of former Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray as “America’s consumer watchdog.”

“I’ve got an obligation to act on behalf of the American people,” the president said. “And I’m not going to stand by while a minority in the Senate puts party ideology ahead of the people that we were elected to serve.”

Obama defies Senate, appoints consumer and labor officials Obama defies Senate, appoints consumer and labor officials A defiant President Barack Obama sidestepped Congress on Wednesday and appointed a new consumer watchdog, locking horns with Republicans, who immediately accused the president of exceeding his authority to appoint a director to an agency they oppose.

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau opens Consumer Financial Protection Bureau opens The most tangible government reform to grow out of the Great Recession officially goes live this week when the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau assumes its regulatory authority on Thursday. Ex-Ohio attorney general picked to lead consumer finance watchdog agency Ex- Ohio attorney general picked to lead consumer finance watchdog agency President Barack Obama will nominate Richard Cordray, who as Ohio's attorney general was a leader in state policing of financial industry abuses, to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that formally opens its doors this week, the White House said Sunday.

Stirring up a fight, Obama names consumer watchdog Stirring up a fight, Obama names consumer watchdog Defying Republican lawmakers,

President Barack Obama on Wednesday barreled by the Senate and installed a national consumer watchdog on his own, provoking GOP threats of a constitutional showdown in the courts.

Setting a fierce tone in the election-year fight for middle-class voters, Obama said: "I refuse to take 'no' for an answer."

Senate Republicans block Obama nominee to head consumer finance agency Senate Republicans block Obama nominee to head consumer finance agency As expected, Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked a confirmation vote on President Barack Obama's choice to lead the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Hours later, the White House announced that Obama also had appointed three members to the National Labor Relations Board, in defiance of Senate Republicans.

In Ohio, the president noted that he'd nominated Cordray last summer to serve as a beat cop against deceptive, abusive and predatory loan products in the financial marketplace, but that Senate Republicans had blocked the appointment, not because Cordray was unqualified, but because “they don’t agree with the law that set up a consumer watchdog in the first place,” he said.

Senate Republicans have made clear that is, indeed, their motive.“They want to weaken the law. They want to water it down,” Obama said, adding that, “by the way, a lot of folks in the financial industry have poured millions of dollars to try to water it down.”

Senate Republicans blocked a confirmation vote on Cordray last month and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky accused Obama on Wednesday of making an unprecedented appointment, because the Senate isn't in official recess.

Traditionally, McConnell said, presidents make such appointments only when the Senate is in recess for 10 days or longer.

Obama has “arrogantly circumvented the American people,” McConnell said, adding that the move “lands this appointee in uncertain legal territory, threatens the confirmation process and fundamentally endangers the Congress’ role in providing a check on the excesses of the executive branch.

”He said that Republicans wanted structural changes to the agency, which was “subject to none of the checks that independent agencies normally operate under.”White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer accused Senate Republicans of coming up with a “gimmick” to prevent the president from exercising his recess appointment authority: being out of town for weeks but convening every few days in a “pro forma” session.Sarah Binder, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a center-left policy-research center, said the Constitution “doesn’t define what constitutes a valid recess for the purpose of the president’s proper exercise of the recess appointment power, leaving it open to interpretation.

”She said that in the most recent court case on the matter _ when the late Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., challenged the recess appointment of William Pryor to an appeals court by President George W. Bush _ the administration’s right to make a recess appointment on the seventh day of a 10-day intra-session recess was upheld.

The back and forth over Cordray underscores the partisan fighting that's characterized every development of the new consumer protection bureau, the most tangible government response to the nation's 2008 economic meltdown.

After failing last month to get the 60 votes needed for a straight up-or-down Senate confirmation vote on Cordray, Obama hinted that he might use a recess appointment to bypass the GOP filibuster that's left the new agency without a director since its regulatory authority began in July.

At the time, the president also voiced frustration over GOP efforts to delay his many other nominations, including federal judges and assistant treasury secretaries. Senate Republicans also have blocked appointments to the National Labor Relations Board; Obama appointed three members Wednesday.

The NLRB appointments allow the board to decide cases again. That authority was lost earlier this week when the five-member panel was down to only two members and was unable to field a quorum. Kimberly Freeman Brown, the executive director of American Rights at Work, commended the president’s NLRB appointments.“Without a functioning board, employers and employees alike would have been stuck in legal limbo on a range of critical issues, including the rights of certain workers to form unions and the appropriate use of social media to discuss workplace concerns,” Brown said.Created by the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial overhaul law, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau monitors deceptive, abusive and predatory loan products in the financial marketplace.

A division of the Federal Reserve,

the bureau works as a stand-alone agency to make sure consumers understand the terms of loan products by reducing fine print, simplifying forms and helping to illuminate costly penalties and fees that often are hidden.Senate Republicans see the bureau as a vast overreach of government authority and have blocked any nominee for director until the agency's structure is revamped.

Without a director, the bureau could examine and oversee large banks, but it couldn't oversee non-depository institutions such as mortgage companies, payday lenders and credit bureaus.The U.S. Chamber of Commerce decried Obama’s move as “unprecedented, constitutionally questionable” and said it put the authority of the director and the bureau’s work “in legal jeopardy.”

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#94. To: Mad Dog (#67)

Quit spamming up the threads. Grow up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   12:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: war (#93)

I didn't notice that spam. Thanks for the heads up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   12:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: A K A Stone (#94)

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WTF are you talking about?

What SPAM?

Actually, never mind, I don't actually care.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-15   15:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: sneakypete (#91)

Blah blah blah blah blah blah

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Frankly pete I was talking about this particular dance that you seem to so love.

It doesn't matter fuck all what YOU "think" or "feel", the US GOOBERMENT/US Department of Defense/US NAVY say fucking otherwise.

VSM with three stars, CAR, MUC with two stars, Shellback.

Kiss my ASS.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-15   15:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: sneakypete (#92)

Mad Dog is actually a pretty bright guy.

You're joking, right?

BTW, what's happened to el Pee? Did Golda forget to pay the bill again?

Maybe the domain has been commandeered for official Mossad use.

meguro  posted on  2012-01-15   17:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: meguro, Mad Dog (#98)

Mad Dog is actually a pretty bright guy.

You're joking, right?

Mad Dog is a better man then you are. But you're not a "real" man.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   17:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: A K A Stone (#99)

Meguro is a real man who at least thinks with his brains instead of woth his testicles like MD and people like you do.

You are a control freak who would invite the though police into everyone's bedroom to make sure there were no genital combinations you hate involved in private personal activities.

You need to grow up.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-15   17:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Ferret Mike (#100)

You need to shut the fuck up and get some morals. Witch.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   17:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: A K A Stone (#101)

You are a nosy little bed snooper who has not a clue about how to respect the rights of others.

My morals are quite good; it's your's that are in the toilet.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-15   18:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Ferret Mike (#102)

You are a nosy little bed snooper

You know how stupid you sound rat boy? No one would ever know unless he came talking about it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   18:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: A K A Stone (#103) (Edited)

You are a bed snooper whether you peeping Tom or gossip derisively about open knowledge about private human relationships.

My position is supported by well vetted scientific studies, your's is based on erroneous interpretations of vague statements in the Bible's old testament.

I base my opinion on fact, you base your's on bigotry, nosiness and disrespect for the rights of others.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-15   18:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: A K A Stone (#103) (Edited)

By the way, your attempt to insult gives away your power in an especially amusing way. You show you only like the forum owner gig so you can use your moderator dashboard to screw with others, not to be a leader and set a high standard of behavior in your place.

You act like a baby. I know Kinder-gardeners more mature than you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-15   18:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: A K A Stone (#99) (Edited)

Mad Dog is a better man then you are. But you're not a "real" man.

And you're a dipshit, Stoner. But you knew that already, didn't you?

meguro  posted on  2012-01-15   18:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: meguro (#98)

Mad Dog is actually a pretty bright guy. You're joking, right?

Nope. He has more than a few anger control and ego issues,but he really is a pretty bright guy.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-15   21:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: A K A Stone, Ferret Mike (#101)

You need to shut the fuck up and get some morals. Witch.

A man who is cheerleading an assassignation of a sitting US President is questioning someone ELSE's morality?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-15   21:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: sneakypete (#108)

A man who is cheerleading an assassignation of a sitting US President is questioning someone ELSE's morality?

Are you saying I said that? That is ridiculous.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-15   22:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: A K A Stone (#109)

It is obvious you implied this. You might think you are a coy l'il thang, but you ain't, Jackson.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-15   23:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: sneakypete (#107)

He has more than a few anger control and ego issues,but he really is a pretty bright guy.

If you say so.

meguro  posted on  2012-01-16   0:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: meguro (#111)

Well, the bitches in his doggie pen in his backyard like him. He gives them a break from those large Husky sausages that lock in place until fido is done making bacon.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-16   0:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Ferret Mike (#112)

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Explain this to me weasel boy, while you "defend" being queer, you use an inference that being queer is foul and bad.

Why do you do that weasel boy?

Oh yeah, you're a stupid fucking gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE.

Why don't you and the queer get a room?

Nobody here cares.

Nobody here cares what YOU perverts do alone in the darkness.

It's when you perverts TRY to claim that your sickness is HEALTH that we act against your sickness and insanity.

You can't even be intellectually HONEST about stuff you CLAIM to support, you miserable libTURD creep.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   17:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Mad Dog (#113)

Nobody here cares what YOU perverts do alone in the darkness.

It's when you perverts TRY to claim that your sickness is HEALTH that we act against your sickness and insanity.

At least you know right from wrong. That can't be said about liberals. Or if they do know the difference they usually always choose evil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-16   17:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: meguro (#111)

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NOBODY cares about your perversions creep.

EXCEPT YOU faggot.

What's life like worshiping the sphincter faggot?

What's it like to color EVERYTHING in your sad little life with SHIT faggot?

Because that's what you do faggot, in fact faggot, that's ALL that you do.

You are sphincter-centric and you are apparently incapable of any other thoughts.

I honestly pity you faggot.

You think that love smells like shit.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   17:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: A K A Stone (#114)

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"At least"?

That's damning me with faint praise isn't it?

I feel very sorry for those like these queers, who have deluded themselves and are so deep into their perversions that they cannot hear the Lord anymore.

God will not be mocked.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   17:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Mad Dog (#116)

That's damning me with faint praise isn't it?

No. It was a compliment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-16   17:43:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Mad Dog (#115)

You were toning it down for a while. Now you are not. How about toning it down just a notch.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-16   17:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: A K A Stone (#118)

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How about you tell people NOT to fucking rank on the US NAVY in VIETNAM?

How about you tell people NOT to call the US NAVY in VIETNAM, COWARDS, SHIRKERS, and LIARS?

How about you tell these people to lay off of the personal insults and maybe I'll do the same?

I am a SWORD carrying Christian.

I don't turn the other cheek when MY PEOPLE and MY SELF are repeatedly and heinously insulted.

EVER.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   18:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: A K A Stone (#118)

BTW, it seems like every time that I come here on weekends at late night my Safari browser develops a problem that does not allow me to log in.

It claims there is no such user name.

Then I have to use another browser to log on, like I did right now.

I KNOW that vile insane piece of shit fuckeroo loves to do his hacker thing, and I KNOW that "he" really really LOVES me.

Is there a connection?

It's cowardly enough to be "him".

Just a heads up.

I'll ALWAYS be able to work around "him" or whoever it is.

IMO fuckeroo is an oozing sore on life's big ass.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   18:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Mad Dog (#119) (Edited)

My Dad was a Naval Aviator in WW II and I appreciate the job the navy did in WW II.

No one disrespects anyone for their service, just as I'm sure you don't disrespect the beautiful couple chosen for the First kiss honors recently that made history.

Gay service members have served honorably for a long time in the U.S. military, and it is a good thing they are no longer unfairly discriminated against for mere normative human sexual atttreaction and behavior. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-16   18:33:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Mad Dog (#119)

I am a SWORD carrying Christian.

By your raging diatribes, vulgar language and unwarranted insults...your actions DON'T match your words. You set a very BAD example for Christian behavior and I wonder how many people you've turned off, and against Christianity, with your hate filled, vulgar outbursts. I'm dismayed at the example of a "SWORD carrying Christian" you display... it's MOST un-Christian.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   18:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Ferret Mike (#121)

for mere normative human sexual atttreaction and behavior.

there's absolutely NOTHING normal about people of the same sex being attracted to each other...NOTHING! As consenting adults, do they have the right to have sex with each other...yes. If it's so "normal", go procrate and produce an offspring. I frankly don't care if they want to invite a pony into the mix...but trying to normalizing this queer behavior has gone way over the top.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   19:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Ferret Mike (#121)

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LOL!

You just react like a pre-teen gurl don't you fool?

Your only intention with you gibberish post is to rub QUEERNESS into OUR, (esp. my), faces eh creep?

You absurd little mincing faggot.

Now go ahead LIAR, and TRY to tell US all that YOUR FATHER would agree with YOU being so PRO-QUEER, especially as being accepted as NORMAL in the US NAVY and in the FLEET you simpering little faggot bitch.

I bet that YOUR FATHER would understand how COUNTER MISSION and UNIT COHESION that is faggot.

You seem to think that I hate queers? Faggot I feel SORRY for you ALL. You are CURSED and you embrace this CURSE as if it was a blessing. Dooming your soul forever.

I've had QUEER friends, and they were fine people besides their perversions, which they NEVER talked to me about. I have no interest in the workings of YOUR perversions faggot, anymore than I want to hear about how some guy screwed his GIRLfriend faggot.

REAL and NORMAL people don't center their lives on SEX, you pitiful faggot.

That you do is indicative of the extent of the progress of your sickness loser.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   19:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: freedomsnotfree (#123)

there's absolutely NOTHING normal about people of the same sex being attracted to each other...NOTHING! As consenting adults, do they have the right to have sex with each other...yes. If it's so "normal", go procrate and produce an offspring. I frankly don't care if they want to invite a pony into the mix...but trying to normalizing this queer behavior has gone way over the top.

You're wasting your breath......

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-16   19:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: freedomsnotfree (#122)

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LOL!

It's true that I am a SINNER, one of the worst ever for sure. I have never claimed otherwise have I FRAUD?

I have never claimed to be a GOOD Christian either you simpering little FRAUD.

HAVE I FRAUD?

What you mean FRAUD, is that I'm not one of your hoped for, and favored type of no balls milquetoast "christian", who will take your foulness without comment, through their ignorance of scripture.

Your opinion means nothing to me FRAUD.

I never claimed that my actions were "Christian" did I FRAUD?

Turns out FRAUD, that Christians are just HUMAN.

I'll stand before the final judge and answer for my own sins FRAUD.

I'd recommend that you pay attention to your own judgement FRAUD.

So eat shit and die, you heathen FRAUD..

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   19:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: freedomsnotfree (#123) (Edited)

I completely disagree. nobody has the prerogative to judge the quality of a couple's relationship.

Same sex relationships were seldom sanctioned before feudal times, and as time progresses things are returning to the norm of respecting the rights of others to form and conduct their own relationships.

There has never not been homosexual and bi-sexual relationships in the entire human history, and there will always be such liaisons.

The APA and other organizations have done exhaustive impartial research that is well vetted showing homosexuals are completely normal in every way and lead every bit as productive and happy a life as us heterosexual people do.

That is, as long as bigots mind their business and butt out of that which does not concern them.

basically, anti-gay hysteria makes a good wedge issue that can drum up fear and hatred, and provides a good catalyst to get people to buy an overall package of agendas they would normally have the good sense to avoid.

Which is the raison d'etre for much of the hate baiting some people like to do.

We had one such group in Oregon called the Oregon Citizen's Alliance (OCA) that tried in vain for many years to get anti-gay ballot measures passed.

Their success was spotty in the beginning and evaporated to no success as we all got to know them as saw that they were just in it for the hate, the bait, and were using the issue to try to sell some pretty slimy social agendas that had nothing to do with homosexuality.

I worked for three years with Oregon Basic Rights and spent many hours and much effort defeating these people, and I am proud of my good efforts, and that of my fellow activists.

Eugene, Oregon ranks 22nd on the scale of the size of it's gay community, primarily because we are the largest lesbian enclave on the West Coast.

We have city officials, police leaders, University of Oregon administrators and many other folks who are well adjusted, productive and happy citizens of our community.

I have several women couples living in the same block as me, and they are great neighbors and dear friends.

You can say what you want, but you cannot budge me one iota from my position. I have invested a great deal of time and effort insuring the gays and lesbians of my community are not molested by the hate of those who would bait and harass them. Your view gets zero sympathy from me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-16   19:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Mad Dog (#124) (Edited)

"You just react like a pre-teen gurl don't you fool?"

Nope, I prefer women my own age. I have no sympathy for pedophiles.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-16   19:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Ferret Mike (#128)

Nope, I prefer women my own age. I have no sympathy for pedophiles.

That's TWO lies faggot.

How can you be pro pervert QUEER, and NOT be PRO pervert child molester faggot? So often they overlap. From YOUR view faggot, why is one OK and the other isn't? Your partee supports both faggot, aren't you a good little demonRAT? How come you didn't mention trans gendered folks you PREJUDICED Ahole? How about animal abusers creep? I mean SEXUALLY of course. How about screwing dead bodies creep? ... YOUR FILTH goes on.

Oh yeah, you're a libTURD, so being a foul HYPOCRITE comes naturally to you.

Nothing to say about YOUR FATHER feeling the same way about QUEERS as YOU do faggot?

Aren't you even going to TRY to LIE about him?

Creep.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-16   19:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Ferret Mike (#128)

I have no sympathy for pedophiles.

So does that mean you have no sympathy for the homosexuals that commit almost 50% of the pedophile crimes in this country, or are they exempt????

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-16   19:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: CZ82 (#130) (Edited)

The overwhelming number of child molesters are NOT in any kind of consensual adult relationship.

Those who do have are overwhelmingly heterosexual.

Oh...and 25% of child molestations are done by people under the age of 18.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-16   19:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: sneakypete (#35)

The saddest part is that despite the insane obscene rants you see him spew in his typical posts,he really is a very bright guy.

My his rabies booster shots aren't up to date?

meguro  posted on  2012-01-16   21:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Mad Dog (#126)

"Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them"...what you show to the world is vile, vulgar, insulting and hate-filled...you can call yourself whatever you like...but I think you show yourself, with every post you make, to be THE fraud..posing as a Christian.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   22:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Ferret Mike (#127)

you didn't answer the question...if its' so normal, so "natural"...why can't you procreate and reproduce...in the animal world, you'd be a freak of nature, you would become non- existent, or taken out of the gene pool. All you can do is recruit...by promoting your lifestyle as "normal", usually to those MUCH younger. I don't care if you don't budge from your position...it matters not one bit to me...I have dealt with MANY homosexuals and I can tell you this...with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS...they are terrible messed up people with huge addiction/emotional/relationship problems. Why not normalize sex with the dead, animals or family members...those practising their perversion will ALWAYS try to convince the world they are NORMAL, when CLEARLY they ARE NOT.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-16   22:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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