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Title: Neo-con Roll Call: The TRUTH About Ron Paul Haters
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Published: Jan 2, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-01-02 12:55:26 by jwpegler
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Let's get to the truth about the neo-cons...

Three questions for people who are against Ron Paul:

1.) Why do you want Americans to subsidize the military defense of rich countries in Europe, Japan, and South Korea 57 years after WWII ended and 22 years after the Cold War ended. Our subsidies put America at an economic disadvantage against those countries, because they don't have to spend as much on defense as we do because we subsidize them. Why do you want to hurt your fellow countrymen and give our competitors an advantage in the global economy?

2.) Why do you blindly support Israel's interests over the America's? Are you a dispensationalist Christian trying to bring about Armageddon? Or are you Jewish and just care more about your tribe than your country? Which one is it?

3.) What is the proper term for someone who puts the interests of other countries above the interests of their own country? Inquiring minds want to know.

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#1. To: jwpegler (#0)

Thanks for this thread. I always default to ignore all of Happy Qball's threads so I'll say it here; Elect Ron Paul for president, and 9-11 was an inside job. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-02   12:57:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)

so I'll say it here; Elect Ron Paul for president, and 9-11 was an inside job.

Like we already knew, Ron Paul & the Truthers try to hide their inbreeding from all but their own because they know it doesn't look good to normal people. If you had half a ball you'd declare your beliefs on the pertinent poll.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-02   13:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Happy Quanzaa (#2)

There's one for you, now answer the questions above.

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   13:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Happy Quanzaa (#2)

"If you had half a ball..."

I always have a ball on line Q-pie. And you are always a legend in your own mind.

You feel you are a rock star as you project undue hubris, childish maliciousness and pointless insanity in the most consistently bad chain of threads I have ever seen.

In any event, thank you for sharing anyway. As always I am extremely amused.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-02   13:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: We The People (#3) (Edited)

Can't you people count? #1 is 2 questions loaded up in the middle with rambling incoherence covering a wide range of issues, & #2 is 3 questions, & all 6 are based on premises which I don't accept, but I'll give it a shot anyway.

    1.) Why do you want Americans to subsidize the military defense of rich countries in Europe, Japan, and South Korea 57 years after WWII ended and 22 years after the Cold War ended. Our subsidies put America at an economic disadvantage against those countries, because they don't have to spend as much on defense as we do because we subsidize them. Why do you want to hurt your fellow countrymen and give our competitors an advantage in the global economy?

1. #1 I want our bases in Europe closed, S. Korea & Japan downsized. But again you show your ignorance on world affairs and history, the Cold War hasn't ended, it's ramping back up. China is militarizing big time, Russia's rattling it's sabres and subsidizing Iran's nuclear weapons program. But the dumbest statement in the question(s) was that the Korean War ended. If you people weren't so ignorant you would know that a peace agreement was never achieved, it's only a ceasefire. Your kind needs to read and research something besides Truther moonbat Blame Amerika First propaganda, that way you might learn a little bit and not embarrass yourselves with so many stupid statements. Oh yeah, on another super stupid statement in the rambling rant disguised as a question about Europe being rich. In case you haven't heard, their economy is crashing, they ain't rich anymore.

1. #2 I want to keep my countrymen safe with a strong military, peace through strength, as it were. The promise of a good ass kicking will keep our logical thinking enemies at bay. It might even get your 72 virgin maniac Mohammadan amigos to think twice before coming over here to kill more of us, giving you and your friend Reverend Wright a reason to crank up your "Amerika's chickens coming home to roost" blame Amerika first rants. The military involvement overseas has nothing to do jobs, our liberal internal 5th Column killed them with their draconian regulations, moocher entitlements, subsidized crony capitalist corporations, unions, and forcing the banks to make bad loans to parasitic deadbeats. That's what deserves the blame for the sorry economic shape we're in.

    2.) Why do you blindly support Israel's interests over the America's? Are you a dispensationalist Christian trying to bring about Armageddon? Or are you Jewish and just care more about your tribe than your country? Which one is it?

2. #1, #2, & #3 I don't blindly support them, I see very clearly that Israel's interests and America's are the same, peace and freedom from attack from rabid maniacal Mohammadans. I'm agnostic, neither Christian nor Jewish. I just want the civilized nations to be able to live in peace, and again, left alone by 3rd World barbarians.

    3.) What is the proper term for someone who puts the interests of other countries above the interests of their own country? Inquiring minds want to know.

Dhimmi is the term you're looking for, neutered eunuchs willing bow to their masters in Mecca. Now you can thank me for letting your inquiring little minds know.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-02   14:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Happy Quanzaa (#5)

I want our bases in Europe closed, S. Korea & Japan downsized. But again you show your ignorance on world affairs and history, the Cold War hasn't ended, it's ramping back up. China is militarizing big time, Russia's rattling it's sabres and subsidizing Iran's nuclear weapons program. But the dumbest statement in the question(s) was that the Korean War ended. If you people weren't so ignorant you would know that a peace agreement was never achieved, it's only a ceasefire. Your kind needs to read and research something besides Truther moonbat Blame Amerika First propaganda, that way you might learn a little bit and not embarrass yourselves with so many stupid statements. Oh yeah, on another super stupid statement in the rambling rant disguised as a question about Europe being rich. In case you haven't heard, their economy is crashing, they ain't rich anymore.

You want bases closed, and others downsized, yet the only candidate who even comes close to this is Paul. Yet you're on a 24/7 anti-Paul crusade, so I think you're full of shit.

China is militarizing big time and Russia's rattling it's sabres, but you want to continue to spread our military out around the globe, bankrupting us, fighting a mostly stone age people. And in case you haven't noticed, China and Russia are both in Iran's corner. Your idiotic war against the muslims so they can't screw your sister is going to get us all killed. And you don't even have the balls to go join those that you want to go fight and die in some third world shit hole, while you sit there on your fat, unemployed, hypocritical, cowardly, chickenhawk ass.

I want to keep my countrymen safe with a strong military, peace through strength, as it were. The promise of a good ass kicking will keep our logical thinking enemies at bay. It might even get your 72 virgin maniac Mohammadan amigos to think twice before coming over here to kill more of us, giving you and your friend Reverend Wright a reason to crank up your "Amerika's chickens coming home to roost" blame Amerika first rants. The military involvement overseas has nothing to do jobs, our liberal internal 5th Column killed them with their draconian regulations, moocher entitlements, subsidized crony capitalist corporations, unions, and forcing the banks to make bad loans to parasitic deadbeats are who to blame for the sorry economic shape we're in.

But..but..but...you don't want the 'promise' of a good ass kicking, you want the ass kicking to continue non-stop, perpetually. And you can pay all the lip service you want to the nation building, but your actions AGAINST the only candidate who would put an end to it proves again that you're full of shit.

Then part of your bullshit rant includes 72 virgin, Rev. Wright, Mohammadan amigos and 'blame America first' bullshit that is too stupid to address.

Then you say this..."The military involvement overseas has nothing to do jobs, our liberal internal 5th Column killed them with their draconian regulations, moocher entitlements, subsidized crony capitalist corporations, unions, and forcing the banks to make bad loans to parasitic deadbeats are who to blame for the sorry economic shape we're in."

But here you are, ready and willing to support a liberal internal 5th Column, globalist candidate who not only APPROVES of all that but actively PUSHES it with support of 'free trade deals' and the very regulations, mandates and spending that caused much of it! Now you believe them because they say they are against what they pushed for in the past?!? And you're actively against the ONLY candidate who agrees with you?

Yeah, I think you're FOS, cause no one who can master the rocket science of a keyboard is that stupid.

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   15:09:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Happy Quanzaa (#5)

Your entire rant (above) is FILLED with silly assumptions, such as:

But the dumbest statement in the question(s) was that the Korean War ended. If you people weren't so ignorant you would know that a peace agreement was never achieved, it's only a ceasefire.

This is the type of person YOU are: present an ASSUMPTION based on partial data. American involvement in Korea is based on a multilateral agreement within the UN; in fact, the Korean "police-action" by the US is determined by UN sanctions; we are not alone, either. But you completely miss the point of jwpegler's thread: why are we still there after some 60 years of involvement? I shall answer the question for YOU because you are such a NIMROD. America's Korean AND European military involvement is based on treaties with an OPENED-ENDED responsibility by the US government to REMAIN forever. The NEOCON involvement in South Vietnam almost succeeded, too, if it weren't for DANIEL ELLSBERG showing that the US GOVERNMENT INTENTIONALLY LIED to the American People about the internal CIA considerations for biasing the situation for political gain in both the US and South Vietnam. Ellsberg's "Pentagon Papers" later collapsed the entire military operation combined with publick outrage.

Publick pressure works to remove the blemishes of an empire, NIMROD. It takes time to defeat these mock officials in post WW2 American government.

I want to add: WHAT THE FUCK IS AMERICA DOING IN OPEN-ENDED MILITARY CAMPAIGNS ANYWAY? It is all because of the powerful US military/industrial complex as Dwight Eisenhower lectured to the American People; even then, he would be rolling over in his grave if he saw where America is today.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-01-02   15:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Happy Quanzaa, We The People, capitalist eric, a k a stone, badeye, CZ82, calcon, Brian S, hondo68, buckeroo, CZ82, Fibr Dog, sneakypete, (#5) (Edited)

I see very clearly that Israel's interests and America's are the same

You obviously have a problem with your eye site.

No two countries have exactly the same interests. NO TWO COUNTRIES.

Canada, United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Singapore, Philippines, Germany, and yes Israel and many, many other countries have closely aligned interests with America.

BUT, our interests are NOT the same.

People who believe that another country's interests are exactly the same as ours are also the same people who will spy on America at the behest of another country or apologize for those who do spy on America for another country, like Jonathan Pollard.

Anyone who thinks that America's interests are the same as any other country cannot be trusted.

This is yet another reason why true conservatives don't trust you neo-commies.


jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-03   17:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Happy Quanzaa (#5) (Edited)

Russia's rattling it's sabres

We had a great opportunity to lock Russia into the west after the Cold War ended. Instead, Clinton, Bush, and Obama screwed the pooch on Russian by trying to enlist former Eastern European countries and former Soviet provinces into NATO so that we could build missile silos on Russia's border.

Why would the U.S. government do this???

Because, as Ronald Reagan said: the closest thing to eternal life on earth we'll ever see is a government program.

The Cold War was a huge government program and the people who profited from it weren't about to see it end.


jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-03   18:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Happy Quanzaa (#5) (Edited)

China is militarizing big time

Have you ever been to China? No???

I have. I've been to Hong Kong (several times), Shanghai (a few times) and Beijing (a few times).

My current largest customer is headquartered in Taiwan. I go there regularly. Is Taiwan an armed camp waiting for the evil "communists" from China to invade??? No it's not. Taiwan is building factories in China.

In many ways China is more capitalistic than is the U.S. In other ways, it's an arbitrary society with little to no government transparency. It also has a population on the verge of revolt.

China is more like Chile under Pinochet -- an authoritarian country aggressively moving towards capitalism -- than it is like a 20th century communist regime.

The only reason that they are enhancing their military is that they want some control of their sea-born borders, including the South China Sea, rather than having America monopolize control of the waters off of their shore.

Why would you neo-commies think that the U.S. government should have control of the South China Sea?

WHY???


jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-03   18:17:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: We The People, Happy Quanzaa (#6)

Way to much logic there WTP...Honestly, these neo-cons are the first wanting to send YOUR kids to die in some cesspool so the MIC can get richer and the globalists can crush those that oppose their program. Those that HATE us for our freedoms reside on the Potomac not in the middle east. RP has the support of over 50% of those enlisted...

HQ, since you're such a war monger, I'm assuming you're typing of the front line...is that right?

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   18:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jwpegler (#8)

People who believe that another country's interests are exactly the same as ours are also the same people who will spy on America at the behest of another country or apologize for those who do spy on America for another country, like Jonathan Pollard.

Anyone who thinks that America's interests are the same as any other country cannot be trusted.

Because it needs to be said again.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-03   20:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: jwpegler (#8)

I second EVERY WORD!

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-03   20:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: freedomsnotfree (#11)

Those that HATE us for our freedoms reside on the Potomac not in the middle east.

No terrorist or terrorist cell can nullify the US Constitution. Only those backstabbing communists in DC can do that.

And then, they can only do that as long as WE let them.

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-03   20:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: freedomsnotfree, We The People, Happy Quanzaa (#11)

HQ, since you're such a war monger, I'm assuming you're typing of the front line...is that right?

neocons never join the military they just talk sh*t, like the neocon princes, cheney, and hannity

two notable internet neocons are the those macho warmongers yukon and grandisland, talk a lot of sh*t but were too gutless to serve in the military

calcon  posted on  2012-01-03   21:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: calcon (#15)

yukon and grandisland

Queer Canary & GayIntercourse

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-03   21:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: calcon (#15)

neocons never join the military they just talk sh*t, like the neocon princes, cheney, and hannity

These "wars" are about destroying the countries that aren't playing nice with the NWO...it has NOTHING to do with protecting our freedoms...in fact, just the opposite. Ask a neo-con WHY our borders are being FORCED to remain open if the government is so worried about an "attack", and they go into complete stammer mode.

Yea...I was over at LP for quite a while until I got kicked off for saying something Goldie considered "over the top" anti-Semitic...which I'm not. Hated to go but The Gay Canary and GI really trashed the site...I like it here and the 4um.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   22:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: We The People (#16)

Queer Canary & GayIntercourse

I see you've also had the displeasure of chatting with those two freaks...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   22:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: freedomsnotfree (#18)

Oh yes. For years.

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-04   7:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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