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Title: Ex-Aide Says Ron Paul Is a 9/11 Truther & Isolationist Who Thinks U.S. Shouldn't Have Fought Hitler
Source: The Weekly Standard
URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs ... have-fought-hitler_614883.html
Published: Jan 2, 2012
Author: JOHN MCCORMACK
Post Date: 2012-01-02 08:27:43 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Truther, moonbat, kook, loonytoon, Ron Paul
Views: 69591
Comments: 125

A former Ron Paul staffer named Eric Dondero, who worked closely with the Texas congressman and presidential candidate over the course of 15 years, has issued a statement in which he both defends his old boss from charges of racism and anti-Semitism and reveals damning new details about about the "sheer lunacy of [Paul's] foreign policy views".

First, Dondero claims that his old boss is such an extreme isolationist that "he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that 'saving the Jews,' was absolutely none of our business."

Second, Dondero writes that that Paul himself is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist:

    He engaged in conspiracy theories including perhaps the attacks were coordinated with the CIA, and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time. He expressed no sympathies whatsoever for those who died on 9/11, and pretty much forbade us staffers from engaging in any sort of memorial expressions, or openly asserting pro-military statements in support of the Bush administration.

And lastly, Dondero reveals that Paul wanted to vote against the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 but lacked the courage of his convictions to do so:

    There is much more information I could give you on the sheer lunacy of his foreign policy views. Let me just concentrate on one in specific. And I will state this with absolute certainty:

    Ron Paul was opposed to the War in Afghanistan, and to any military reaction to the attacks of 9/11.

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#11. To: We The People (#8)

"They hate us because we're free"

Where did I use the They hate us because we're free argument? You have a link to that?

No, no you don't because I never said it.

What I have said is they hate us because were not Muslims and they want our stuff.

And I have documented history, beginning in 7th Century, to back up my argument.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-02   10:21:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Happy Quanzaa (#11)

What I have said is they hate us because were not Muslims and they want our stuff.

You got a link to that?

LOL!

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   10:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: We The People (#12)

LOL!

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

Tagline stutter, that means you can't back up your comment & exposes you as a LOL, as in Liar Out Loud.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-02   10:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Happy Quanzaa (#11)

What I have said is they hate us because were not Muslims and they want our stuff.

LOL!

I guess it could be something that simplistic, especially in the mind of a person such as yourself.

But do you think it may just be that Britain and America have been meddling in the internal affairs of that region for more than 50 years? That Britain created those 'states'? That America has been actively engaged in overthrowing democratically elected leaders in those 'states'?

Could any of that have anything AT ALL to do with it?

Good God man... they hate us because were not Muslims and they want our stuff?

LOL!

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   10:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: We The People (#14)

LOL!

I guess it could be something that simplistic, especially in the mind of a person such as yourself.

But do you think it may just be that Britain and America have been meddling in the internal affairs of that region for more than 50 years? That Britain created those 'states'? That America has been actively engaged in overthrowing democratically elected leaders in those 'states'?

Could any of that have anything AT ALL to do with it?

Good God man... they hate us because were not Muslims and they want our stuff?

LOL!

They hate us for both reasons. IMO

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-02   10:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Happy Quanzaa (#13)

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

Tagline stutter, that means you can't back up your comment & exposes you as a LOL, as in Liar Out Loud.

LOL!

Ummmmm, sure, whatever.

Damn HQ, you're way too easy. You shouldn't post horseshit, cause it's way too easy to make you look stupid.

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   10:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0) (Edited)

Eric Dondero

He used to called himself Eric Rittberg. No one quite knows what his real last name is.

A.) He is a supporter of endless wars in the Middle East (he's half Jewish)

B.) He wanted Ron Paul to support the Iraq war

C.) He became a disgruntled ex-employee when Ron Paul fired him for insubordination over the Iraq war

D.) He tried to run against Paul for Congress and lost badly

E.) He has been obsessed with trashing Paul since he was fired


jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-02   10:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: We The People (#14)

Maps, 1300 years of documented history, logic, reason, commonsense, nothing penetrates the Kool-Aid hardened heads of True Believers.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-02   10:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: We The People (#14)

Why do the truthers support RP unless they think he's one of them?

Are the truthers just stupid?

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-02   10:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jwpegler (#17)

He is a half Jewish

The dirty ebul Jooz are behind the RP attacks, nothing he has said or done has anything to do with why people think he a Truther. That explains it. /sarc

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-02   10:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone, Happy Quanzaa (#15)

They hate us for both reasons. IMO

And many more.

I know that if China or any other nation had been meddling in America's internal affairs, setting up countless military bases and putting thousands of armed soldiers on our streets, killing civilians, bombing St. Louis, Canton Ohio and Ft. Lauderdale, killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, and placing puppet governments in charge of America, I'd be pretty damned pissed myself.

I'd wager that HQ would be right there fighting along side me too.

Yet he cannot see that other nations might get pissed when we do it? It's ridiculous!

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   10:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: jwpegler (#17)

Attacking the messenger doesn't change or refute the message.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-02   10:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Thunderbird (#19)

Are the truthers just stupid?

If they weren't they wouldn't be Troofers.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-02   10:44:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: We The People (#14)

Could any of that have anything AT ALL to do with it?

Bush, Cheney, Halliburton, & Big Oil were meddling w/ the Mohammadans in the year 700 AD?

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-02   10:46:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Thunderbird (#19)

Why do the truthers support RP unless they think he's one of them?

Are the truthers just stupid?

I don't know why, because he's stated time and time again what his beliefs are.

It's just much easier for simpletons to grab onto a simple idea like "Ron Paul is a truther" and run with it, than it is to actually look for the truth.

Do you know why?

It could be because of other issues, like ending the Fed and the IRS or the constant endless wars that are bankrupting us.

Do you imagine that there might be truthers who don't support Ron Paul? I'll bet there is! (GASP!!!)

LOL!

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   10:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Thunderbird, jwpegler (#22)

Attacking the messenger doesn't change or refute the message.

In this case, it's as good as any other evidence.

You want it left out of the discussion that Eric Dondero was fired by Ron Paul?

Oh you guys are funny!

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   10:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: We The People (#21)

know that if China or any other nation had been meddling in America's internal affairs, setting up countless military bases and putting thousands of armed soldiers on our streets, killing civilians, bombing St. Louis, Canton Ohio and Ft. Lauderdale, killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, and placing puppet governments in charge of America, I'd be pretty damned pissed myself.

Sounds like you've swallowed the 'equivalence of cultures' kool-aid that the left has been serving up for a generation at our colleges and universities.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-02   10:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Happy Quanzaa (#24)

Could any of that have anything AT ALL to do with it?

Bush, Cheney, Halliburton, & Big Oil were meddling w/ the Mohammadans in the year 700 AD?

I stated a very specific time period, HQ.

You seriously want to punish Muslims for something they did 1400 years ago?

What do you want...reparations?

LOL!

How about we punish the Christians too, for the Crusades? Or do you just want war on Muslims?

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   10:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Happy Quanzaa (#18)

Maps, 1300 years of documented history, logic, reason, commonsense, nothing penetrates the Kool-Aid hardened heads of True Believers.

Does that mean that the Original True Believers are just gluttons for punishment for settling in a region with such an untoward history?

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-02   10:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: We The People (#28) (Edited)

How about we punish the Christians too, for the Crusades? Or do you just want war on Muslims?

Only if some other country fights it for him. 3500 years ago the Hebrews were the most war mongering tribes around. Maybe they need some of that punishmnet for the sins of their fathers he seems to think is okay to inflict on others.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-02   10:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: We The People (#26)

You want it left out of the discussion that Eric Dondero was fired by Ron Paul?

It doesn't change the fact that Dondero was with RP for fifteen years, and certainly has insights into the 'early RP' as opposed to camoflauged RP running for office today.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-02   10:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Thunderbird (#27)

know that if China or any other nation had been meddling in America's internal affairs, setting up countless military bases and putting thousands of armed soldiers on our streets, killing civilians, bombing St. Louis, Canton Ohio and Ft. Lauderdale, killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, and placing puppet governments in charge of America, I'd be pretty damned pissed myself.

Sounds like you've swallowed the 'equivalence of cultures' kool-aid that the left has been serving up for a generation at our colleges and universities.

Oh please!

Have we been doing those things in the middle east or haven't we? Yes or no?

The only thing I've swallowed is the truth, and believe me, it was hard pill to swallow, but it is what it is. If you think we're right all the time, just because we're America, then there's a term for that.

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   10:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Thunderbird (#31)

You want it left out of the discussion that Eric Dondero was fired by Ron Paul?

It doesn't change the fact that Dondero was with RP for fifteen years, and certainly has insights into the 'early RP' as opposed to camoflauged RP running for office today.

It also doesn't change the fact that Dondero could be pulling whatever he says out of his ass.

Were you there? Were you an eyewitness to these things? If the answer is no, then you also have only the word of a disgruntled former employee.

Is that considered evidence beyond a reasonable doubt?

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   11:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Thunderbird (#31)

as opposed to camoflauged RP running for office today

LOL!

Your zipper is down and your predisposed bias is showing!

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   11:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: We The People (#25)

I don't know why, because he's stated time and time again what his beliefs are.

Are the truthers just stupid or do they know something about RP that the general public doesn't?

Has RP disavowed the truthers the same way he did the white supremecists?

What does Occam's razor suggest to you?

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-02   11:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Thunderbird (#35)

do they know something about RP that the general public doesn't?

Is this your latest conspiracy theory?

Has RP disavowed the truthers the same way he did the white supremecists?

RP has stated his beliefs on the issue many times. There is a link to it up thread. I guess you can call it whatever you'd like.

What does Occam's razor suggest to you?

That you'll accept the word of a disgruntled former employee of Ron Paul as positive proof, because it enforces your predetermined beliefs.

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   11:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: We The People (#33)

Is that considered evidence beyond a reasonable doubt?

Dondero makes a credible witness to the inner workings of the RP phenomena. He was there for fifteen years as an insider.

I think the notion that a 'reasonable doubt' standard needs to be applied is evidence of a 'persecution complex' on your part as it applies to Ron Paul.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-02   11:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Thunderbird (#37) (Edited)

is evidence of a 'persecution complex' on your part

LMFAO!!! Wow! I have a persecution complex?

Dondero makes a credible witness

I'm sorry, but what were you saying above?

Does the term innocent until proven guilty mean anything to you? Here-say is just that, my friend. Yet you've already convicted upon it.

And you claim that I have a persecution complex?

WoW!

LOL!

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   11:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: We The People (#34)

Your zipper is down and your predisposed bias is showing!

The Paul campaign needs to address the questions raised by Dondero, not attack him personally.

Likewise, your attempt at winning a quick aquittal for RP by challenging my objectivity are failing.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-02   11:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Thunderbird (#39) (Edited)

The Paul campaign needs to address the questions raised by Dondero, not attack him personally.

Attack him personally? Show me.

I've not seen the Paul campaign even address Dondero. And why should they? Should they address every crackpot who makes an allegation?

Should they address Mad Dog because he said that Paul wants to "do away with the US Armed Forces" too?

Likewise, your attempt at winning a quick aquittal for RP by challenging my objectivity are failing.

I'm sure that in your mind, I have failed miserably. Because Paul is already guilty. Right? But I have a 'persecution complex'?

LOL!

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   11:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: We The People (#36)

Is this your latest conspiracy theory?

No this isn't about me, no matter how hard you try to make it so.

hat you'll accept the word of a disgruntled former employee of Ron Paul as positive proof, because it enforces your predetermined beliefs.

I've seen nothing presented that suggests Dondero is 'disgruntled' as you suggest, in fact your basis for rejecting my objectivity is evidence of your own predetermined beliefs.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-02   11:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Happy Quanzaa (#11)

What I have said is they hate us because were not Muslims and they want our stuff.

or maybe they just want their stuff back.

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-02   11:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: lucysmom (#42)

or maybe they just want their stuff back.

What stuff would that be?

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-02   11:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Ex-Aide Says Ron Paul Is a 9/11 Truther & Isolationist Who Thinks U.S. Shouldn't Have Fought Hitler

So what?

Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-01-02   11:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: We The People (#40)

Should they address Mad Dog because he said that Paul wants to "do away with the US Armed Forces" too?

If Mad Dog were part of the RP inner circle for fifteen years, then I say yes.

Ultimately, the Paul campaign will have to address these allegations as they are quickly becoming a part of the daily news cycle and reasonable people are going to want answers.

I'm not sure telling the general public to do their homework is an effective campaign strategy for RP going forward.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-02   11:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Happy Quanzaa (#43)

What stuff would that be?

In Iran it was oil.

In Palestine, it's land.

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-02   11:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Thunderbird (#41)

No this isn't about me, no matter how hard you try to make it so.

Sure it is. It's funny how you guys always protect your own.

You only wish that RP would also have a bevy of girlfriends coming out of the woodwork as the topping on the cake.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-02   11:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: We The People (#38)

Does the term innocent until proven guilty mean anything to you?

Beyond reasonable doubt is a standard reserved for criminal proceedings. That you would raise it preemptively in response to Dondero's comments suggests a certain level of defensveness I attribute to the persecution complex...YMMV.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-02   11:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Thunderbird (#41)

I've seen nothing presented that suggests Dondero is 'disgruntled' as you suggest

He works for Paul for 15 years and you don't hear a word from or about him.

He gets fired and he makes allegations that he cannot prove one way or the other, just as Paul is running for president?

Seriously?

Is this your latest conspiracy theory?

No this isn't about me, no matter how hard you try to make it so.

Hey, YOU asked the question, "do they know something about RP that the general public doesn't?" THAT is a whacky conspiracy theory, suggested BY YOU.

Don't get your feelings hurt cause I pointed out the FACT that you're floating whacky CT's.

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   11:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Thunderbird (#45)

Ultimately, the Paul campaign will have to address these allegations

No, they don't.

But I thought you said they did, and attacked him personally?

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   11:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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