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Title: Ex-Aide Says Ron Paul Is a 9/11 Truther & Isolationist Who Thinks U.S. Shouldn't Have Fought Hitler
Source: The Weekly Standard
URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs ... have-fought-hitler_614883.html
Published: Jan 2, 2012
Author: JOHN MCCORMACK
Post Date: 2012-01-02 08:27:43 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Truther, moonbat, kook, loonytoon, Ron Paul
Views: 69598
Comments: 125

A former Ron Paul staffer named Eric Dondero, who worked closely with the Texas congressman and presidential candidate over the course of 15 years, has issued a statement in which he both defends his old boss from charges of racism and anti-Semitism and reveals damning new details about about the "sheer lunacy of [Paul's] foreign policy views".

First, Dondero claims that his old boss is such an extreme isolationist that "he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that 'saving the Jews,' was absolutely none of our business."

Second, Dondero writes that that Paul himself is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist:

    He engaged in conspiracy theories including perhaps the attacks were coordinated with the CIA, and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time. He expressed no sympathies whatsoever for those who died on 9/11, and pretty much forbade us staffers from engaging in any sort of memorial expressions, or openly asserting pro-military statements in support of the Bush administration.

And lastly, Dondero reveals that Paul wanted to vote against the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 but lacked the courage of his convictions to do so:

    There is much more information I could give you on the sheer lunacy of his foreign policy views. Let me just concentrate on one in specific. And I will state this with absolute certainty:

    Ron Paul was opposed to the War in Afghanistan, and to any military reaction to the attacks of 9/11.

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#63. To: lucysmom, jwpegler (#62)

They have China now, they don't need us.

China values defense exchanges with Japan: defense ministry

www.defpro.com/news/detai...d1275a3b9e660e8823ff7a088

China-Japan Currency Deal Points Way to New Monetary Order

www.bloomberg.com/news/20...-monetary-order-view.html

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   12:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: lucysmom (#61)

You don't think that's just an intellectual exercise do you?

Not with these donors.

"Funding

The Hoover Institution receives much of its funding from private charitable foundations, including many attached to large corporations. A partial list of its recent donors includes:

Sarah Scaife Foundation, $9,845,500 from 1985-2008 - more than any other foundation in that period, according to Media Matters. (Its most recent grant to the Hoover Institution seems to be $850,000 in 2007.)[4]

Archer Daniels Midland Foundation

ARCO Foundation

Boeing-McDonnell Foundation

Chrysler Corporation Fund

Dean Witter Foundation

Exxon Educational Foundation [7]

Ford Motor Company Fund

General Motors Foundation

J.P. Morgan Charitable Trust

Merrill Lynch & Company Foundation

Procter & Gamble Fund

Rockwell International Corporation Trust

Transamerica Foundation"

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-02   12:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: mininggold (#64)

Not with these donors.

The Hoover Institute played "Chicago Boys" to the Soviet Union's Yeltsin.

The team's economic advice focused on privatization, budgeting, taxation, labor markets, banking, price reform and tax administration programs.

http://news.stanford.edu/pr/91/910620Arc1287.html

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-02   13:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: jwpegler (#60)

WHY, 57 years after WWII ended, and 23 years after the Cold War ended, should Americans be on the hook for subsidizing the military defense of rich countries in Europe, Japan, and South Korea?

We send them billions of dollars a year in foreign aid. We pay rent for every military base. We pay environmental damages every time we have a military exercise (at least in Germany and the ROK, I don't know about Japan or the rest of Europe). Last but not least, military bases provide a lot of jobs for the local population and GI's contribute a lot to the local economy. All of this gives power and influence within their governments.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-01-02   13:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Fibr Dog (#56)

why on Earth should they be believed about anything?

...I've been shouting that for the last 10 years. You make GREAT points Dog...thanks for spreading the TRUTH!!

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-02   15:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Happy Quanzaa, freedomsnotfree, We The People, Thunderbird, jwpegler, mininggold (#0)

Second, Dondero writes that that Paul himself is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist:

First of all, you are quoting Eric Dondero, aka happy fun ball, fifty yard line, no gnu taxes as a credible source?

You're kidding, right?

Second, Ron Paul has called for a new investigation into 9/11.

Third, even the 9/11 commissioners have stated that the final report was based on lies, and they did not get all of the facts from the Bush Administration.

9/11 Commissioners say "Official Story" a Lie

The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”.

The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn’t bother to tell the American people (free subscription required).

Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.

9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only “the first draft” of history.

9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”

9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting”

Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”.

9/11 Commissioner John Lehman said that “We purposely put together a staff that had - in a way - conflicts of interest“.

The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry, said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2012-01-03   7:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Deckard, freedomsnotfree, We The People, Thunderbird, jwpegler, mininggold, Mad Dog (#68)

To: Happy Quanzaa, freedomsnotfree, We The People, Thunderbird, jwpegler, mininggold Second, Dondero writes that that Paul himself is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist: First of all, you are quoting Eric Dondero, aka...blah-blah, blah...from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

Thank you for proving my point, Paultards are Truthers.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-03   8:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Happy Quanzaa (#69)

Thank you for proving my point, Paultards are Truthers.

You must be Gatlin from LP.

Your style is so similar. Ignore what is posted as fact and make shit up as you go along.

You are citing Eric Dondero for crying out loud, the former Ron Paul staffer who was fired for incompetence and posts as fifty yard line at LP and no gnu taxes here.

Do you actually expect anyone to take you seriously?

The commissioners themselves said that the 9/11 report was a fraud.

What part of that is so difficult for you to understand?

Why are you against a new investigation?

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2012-01-03   8:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Deckard (#70) (Edited)

Eric Dondero

Go read the whole thread. Dondero has already been discussed extensively, no need to go around in circles.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-03   9:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: freedomsnotfree (#1) (Edited)

o would over 3000 architects and engineers that say I those building coming down from a plane hit defies the laws of physics....

You're telling me that 3000 architects and engineers don't understand gravity and the minimal effect of it is that things fall in a path of least resistence?

building 7 came down and was never even hit by a plane.

Right.

It was hit by a collapsing building instead.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   9:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Deckard (#68)

You do realize that they are referencing the cooperation of the National Security apparati of the US and not how the buildings fell?

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   9:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: war (#72) (Edited)

You're telling me that 3000 architects and engineers don't understand gravity and the minimal effect of it is that things fall in a path of least resistence?

Remind us all again when and where you received your Master's Degree in Architecture and/or engineering.

Caught In Their Own Web of Contradictions: New Video shows Official 9/11 Story Defenders Espousing Opposing and Impossible WTC Theories

Civil Engineer Jon Cole points out in his latest rapid-paced 18 minute video, 9/11 Theories: Expert vs. Expert, that many people, espousing the official account of the 9/11 WTC events and viewed as technical experts, have proposed a variety of conflicting theories as to why the WTC buildings collapsed on 9/11. What is interesting is that none of those theories supporting the Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT) obey the laws of physics or match the observed events. This innovative and well-researched video also presents a fascinating 9/11 narrative and compelling images that refute these official accounts of how the Twin Towers and WTC Building 7 came down.

Some experts admitted that there were explosions in the Twin Towers, and others said there were none -- even though there are many eyewitnesses to these explosions.

Some experts told us that fires melted steel, and others pointed out that jet fuel and office fires don’t burn hot enough to melt steel. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) said the molten metal seen coming out of the upper floors of the buildings and found pooled at the bases of their debris was “irrelevant to the investigation of the collapse of the towers.” This material was actually molten steel or (more likely) iron – a byproduct of the incendiary “thermite”. It produces the required temperatures to melt steel and iron, which are twice as high as what office fires or jet fuel can produce.

 

Some experts said the floor truss connections in the Twin Tower broke, causing a “pancaking” collapse, whereas others said that the connections were actually strong enough to pull in the perimeter columns causing their failure. This argument is actually irrelevant, since the local failure of either of these structural elements could not have caused the Twin Towers to fall like a house of cards.

Some experts said the perimeter columns bowed out and others said they bowed in. Again, these experts miss the point, because normal office fires cannot possibly cause the systematic, instantaneous failure of all the steel columns that must have occurred in order to cause the rapid, symmetrical destruction of each of the WTC skyscrapers.

Some experts said WTC Building 7 didn’t collapse at free fall acceleration, and others said it did. Fortunately, NIST has already acknowledged the free fall of WTC7, after being publicly embarrassed and provided with analysis by physics instructor David Chandler.

What is being ignored by these “experts” is the elephant in the room – the numerous facts that confirm the controlled demolition hypothesis

Some experts said that the sulfur attack on the WTC7 steel documented by FEMA at Ground Zero came from the pulverized gypsum wallboard, whereas others said it couldn’t have. The truth is that gypsum wall board is used to protect steel and has never been shown to attack it.

Some experts said thermite couldn’t have been used to cut the steel beams, and others said it could. Cole points out in the video that thermite was used over 75 years ago to melt the steel supporting columns in the controlled demolition of the Skyride Towers.

One self-styled expert with an engineering background even gives two conflicting theories himself. Jonathan Kay, the author of the hit piece Among the Truthers, suggested both the “pancake theory” and “pile driver theory” when interviewed on National Public Radio. Neither theory accounts for the speed of the “collapse” or the forensic and video evidence, including the molten metal found at Ground Zero and the thermitic residue identified in the WTC dust.

After all the time and money spent on government investigations, the defenders of the OCT can’t agree on the nature of those building collapses. What is being ignored is the elephant in the room – the numerous facts that confirm the controlled demolition hypothesis.

This latest video by Cole is not to be missed, especially by those of us who find ourselves in repeated discussions with the deniers of the explosive 9/11 evidence. This tool can be very useful in your hands as you educate others with the truth.

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2012-01-03   9:54:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Happy Quanzaa (#71)

Go read the whole thread. Dondero has already been discussed extensively,

Discussed AND debunked.

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2012-01-03   9:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Deckard (#75) (Edited)

Discussed AND debunked

In the Kool-Aid marinated TrutherTard/PaulTards' minds. Some may suspect Dondero was maybe deprogrammed by some of those people that go around rescuing people from cults. I thought the Obamabots were brainwashed back in '08 with their fainting, and crying with joy, and kids singing Obama songs and whatnot, but I have to give it to you TT/PTs, your numbers may not be as many, but y'alls craziness is concreted in harder than theirs, by a long shot.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-03   10:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: war (#73)

You do realize that they are referencing the cooperation of the National Security apparati of the US and not how the buildings fell?

Good luck getting him to cop to that fact.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-03   10:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Happy Quanzaa (#76)

Discussed AND debunked

In the Kool-Aid marinated TrutherTard/PaulTards' minds.

The fact remains that your "source" Eric Dondero has every reason to be bitter and vindictive against Ron Paul.

You don't seem to get that, instead you keep name-calling instead of addressing that simple fact.

Rules of Disinformation

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make  yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. 

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule.  This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger'  ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs',  'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics',  'sexual deviates', TrutherTard/Paultard and so forth. This makes others  shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2012-01-03   10:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Happy Quanzaa (#76)

n the Kool-Aid marinated TrutherTard/PaulTards' minds. Some may suspect Dondero was maybe deprogrammed by some of those people that go around rescuing people from cults. I thought the Obamabots were brainwashed back in '08 with their fainting, and crying with joy, and kids singing Obama songs and whatnot, but I have to give it to you TT/PTs, your numbers may not be as many, but y'alls craziness is concreted in harder than theirs, by a long shot.

Thankfully this is Ron Paul's last stand.

Lets see how much campaign funds he retires with.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-03   10:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Deckard (#78)

The fact remains that your "source" Eric Dondero has every reason to be bitter and vindictive against Ron Paul.

Wrong.

No evidence has been presented that Eric Dondero is bitter or vindictive toward RP, other than the 'everyone knows' variety by his die-hard supporters.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-03   10:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: war (#72)

It was hit by a collapsing building instead.

REALLY??? which building? You flat earth people are a scream...the earth is flat, the Tuskegee experiment never happened, the Gulf of Ton-kin is a conspiracy theory, free trade will help our economy, open borders are wonderful, there really ARE WMD in Iraq, seriously...the economy is GREAT...why, we're only 100 Trillion dollars in debt, and George Bush was lying about wanting a new world order. After ALL the lies that have been forced on you...why do you take ANYTHING they say at face value??? Are you THAT dense?

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   11:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Thunderbird (#79)

Thankfully this is Ron Paul's last stand.

...what you flat earth people FAIL to acknowledge is, this isn't about Ron Paul...it's about people waking up, educating themselves and understanding the globalists own BOTH parties. They give us their choices to choose between...just like the old soviet union...people had a choice, or course, BOTH choices where communists. The fact you flat earthers don't see what is happening, clearly shows your lack of reasoning ability. I would suggest you step away from the MSN... which are OWNED by those desperately wanting global government. Additionally, it will be IMPOSSIBLE for the RNC candidate to win without the support of the those that are awake...and that will NEVER happen. So I guess you better get ready for 4 more years of the Kenyan.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   11:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: freedomsnotfree (#81)

REALLY??? which building?

WTC 1 which was feet away from WTC 7.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   11:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: war (#83)

WTC 1 which was feet away from WTC 7.

...so you believe the governments "official" story?

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   11:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Deckard (#74) (Edited)

Remind us all again when and where you received your Master's Degree in Architecture and/or engineering.

Since when do I need one to understand gravity?

Some experts admitted that there were explosions in the Twin Towers, and others said there were none -- even though there are many eyewitnesses to these explosions.

There's a difference between being an eyewitness and simply hearing something. Not one "eyewitness" SAW anything explode after the initial impact of the planes which is when the infamous basement "explosion" occurred. They all HEARD something that sounded like an explosion.

Occum's Razor alone reveals that there was no reason to fly planes into the buildings if they were already wired for a CT.

It produces the required temperatures to melt steel and iron, which are twice as high as what office fires or jet fuel can produce.

The fires didn't NEED to melt metal. It only needed to compromise its weight bearing ability.

Neither theory accounts for the speed of the “collapse” or the forensic and video evidence, including the molten metal found at Ground Zero and the thermitic residue identified in the WTC dust.

A) You believe that the "speed of the collapse" was what?

B) That "dust" was found in apartments months later and, in one case, in Brooklyn. And a chain of custody was never established for that "dust".

Truthers are even bigger Moonbats than Berfers.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   11:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: freedomsnotfree (#84)

...so you believe the governments "official" story?

The official story reegarding what, exactly? Be specific when you ask a question.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   12:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: war (#86)

The official story reegarding what, exactly? Be specific when you ask a question.

9-11...that's pretty specific

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   12:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: freedomsnotfree (#87)

9-11...that's pretty specific

Bull.

Different aspects were examined by different groups.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   12:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: war (#88)

I didn't realize the government had issued a number of different versions/statements concerning what happedned that day...thanks for playing...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   12:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: freedomsnotfree (#89)

I didn't realize the government had issued a number of different versions/statements concerning what happedned that day...thanks for playing...

Another refuge who has problems with the subtleties of plain English.

NIST

9/11 Commission

Are they the same source?

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   13:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Happy Quanzaa, Thunderbird (#23)

Thunderbird: Are the truthers just stupid?

Happy Quanzaa: If they weren't they wouldn't be Troofers.

You believe everything the government tells you?

Who killed JFK?

You think it was Oswald, despite every shred of evidence indicating that not only did he not do it, but he was acting as a low-level operative for the CIA...?

You believe the "magic bullet" theory?

Do you accept the Warren Commission report?

Do you believe the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident occured?

If you answered "no" to any of the above question, then it is not so difficult to understand why people might be unwilling to blindly accept the "official" explanation of 9/11.

Ron Paul has never he believes the more outlandish theories (remote- controlled airplanes, a Jewish conspiracy, et.al.), but he has stated that many questions remain unanswered, and there should be further investigation. Such a position is not in the realm of "Conspiracy Theory," but a well-thought out position.

[One need only look at the testimony of Sibel Edmonds, to start wondering whether all the facts were revealed.]

“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” -- Samuel Adams --

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-03   14:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Happy Quanzaa (#69)

.

PaulTARDS are alot of things, none of which are good, or AMERICAN, or even adult.

"It's the CULT of PERSONALITY ...

CULT of personality ....

CULT OF PERSONALITY!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-03   16:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Mad Dog (#92)

CULT OF PERSONALITY!

funny comment coming from a guy who likes to dress up as sarah palin and pretend it's a black athlete hammering his fat ass rather then the skid row bum who paid him a drink of sterno for some hot gay sex

calcon  posted on  2012-01-03   16:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: calcon (#93)

funny comment coming from a guy who likes to dress up as sarah palin and pretend it's a black athlete hammering his fat ass rather then the skid row bum who paid him a drink of sterno for some hot gay sex

Mad Dog posting away in Alaska...

...waiting for Yukon to come over and ram it up his poop chute.


jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-03   17:12:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: calcon (#93)

CULT OF PERSONALITY!

funny comment coming from a guy who likes to dress up as sarah palin and pretend it's a black athlete hammering his fat ass rather then the skid row bum who paid him a drink of sterno for some hot gay sex

What have I told you about posting while looking into a mirror faggot?

DON'T do it faggot.

It's WAY beyond your pay grade faggot.

Did your mother have any children that lived faggot?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-04   0:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: jwpegler (#94)

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LMAO!

SOOOOOOOO "original" dick licker!

LOL!

You two CUNTS really ought to get a room dick licker.

PaulTARD IDIOTS.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-04   0:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: freedomsnotfree (#82)

So I guess you better get ready for 4 more years of the Kenyan.

Despite your gibberish, I can't think of another candidate who's nomination would guarentee Obama's re-election more easily than Ron Paul.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-04   9:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Thunderbird (#97) (Edited)

the FACT remains...without the "Paul" votes, the RNC candidate CAN NOT win. Those are the FACTS! Lets just play your game though...lets say Romney, Santorum, Perry wins the presidency

1) is the TSA going to be dismantled

2) the IRS going to be phased out

3) the Federal Reserve phased out

4) unconstitutional agencies abolished

5) these fake wars ended

6) NDAA repealed

7) Patriot Act repealed

8) 1 Trillion in spending cut the first year

9) Obamacare repealed

See...it doesn't really matter if Obama or _______________ wins, NOTHING will change, NOTHING! ALL the players are owned, lock, stock and barrel by those wanting world government...except Paul. You want limited, Constitutional government, Paul is the ONLY one advocating that, you want world government, loss of freedom, crushing debt, endless wars, unaccountable government...vote ANYONE else...they're ALL the same.

And I disagree completely with you're premise about Obama being a shoe-in if he is head to head against Paul...I know a LOT of former Democrats that are waking up to the two party fraud also, they're VERY disgusted with Obama and like the freedom and liberty message Paul brings to the table. The fact you don't see the fraud doesn't mean MILLIONS of others don't...educate yourself.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-04   10:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: freedomsnotfree (#98)

See...it doesn't really matter if Obama or _______________ wins, NOTHING will change, NOTHING! ALL the players are owned, lock, stock and barrel by those wanting world government...except Paul. You want limited, Constitutional government, Paul is the ONLY one advocating that, you want world govenrment, loss of freedom, crushing debt, endless wars, unaccountable government...vote ANYONE else...they're ALL the same.

EXACTLY.

“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” -- Samuel Adams --

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-04   10:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: freedomsnotfree (#98)

Lets just play your game though...lets say Romney, Santorum, Perry wins the presidency

1) is the TSA going to be dismanteled

2) the IRS going to be phased out

3) the Federal Reserve phased out

yada, yada, yada...

Paul would be a dictator then.

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-04   10:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: lucysmom (#100)

...no, Paul would simply be performing his OATH, something the others lied about, enforcing and protecting the Constitution...that means abolishing those agencies that aren't Constitutional. Don't they ALL swear to do this??

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-04   10:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: freedomsnotfree (#101)

...no, Paul would simply be performing his OATH, something the others lied about, enforcing and protecting the Constitution...that means abolishing those agencies that aren't Constitutional. Don't they ALL swear to do this??

Does the Constitution say that the President can eliminate what Congress has created - like the Department of Education?

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-04   10:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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