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Title: Ron Paul: Iran Would be Justified in Closing Strategic Waterway in Response to Sanctions
Source: CNS News
URL Source: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ron ... ic-waterway-response-sanctions
Published: Dec 30, 2011
Author: Patrick Goodenough
Post Date: 2012-01-01 09:33:10 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Paultards, moonbats, kooks, loonytoons, freaks, cult
Views: 6030
Comments: 17

(CNSNews.com) – As Iran ratcheted up its rhetoric Thursday about closing the Strait of Hormuz, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul revisited his earlier criticisms of Western policy towards Tehran, adding that Iran would be justified in cutting off the strategic waterway in response to sanctions.

Paul’s views on Iran and other foreign policy issues – essentially a noninterventionist, anti-war approach – have sparked clashes on several occasions during the GOP presidential primary season, and are attracting growing scrutiny as the Iowa caucus looms. At a campaign event in Iowa Thursday, Paul called Western sanctions imposed against Iran over its nuclear activities “horrendous” and “acts of war,” while repeating earlier assertions that Iran would understandably want to develop a nuclear weapons capability, the Los Angeles Times reported.

On Iran’s threat to close Hormuz, the Texan congressman said that as president he would not respond with military action to any such move, as he would not consider it an act of war against the United States. Instead, he would refer the matter to the U.S. Congress.

Paul’s Republican rivals have stepped up criticism over his foreign policy stances.

“One of the people running for president thinks it’s okay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon,” former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney told a Muscatine, Iowa event on Wednesday. “I don’t.”

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, campaigning in Des Moines, said, “You don’t have to vote for a candidate who will allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, because America will be next.”

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and former Sen. Rick Santorum have also both tussled with Paul over Iran during primary debates, while former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has called for robust measures to bring down the regime “with minimum use of force,” including cutting off its gas supply and sabotaging its oil refinery.

Some 40 percent of the world’s tanker-borne oil passes through the Strait of Hormuz. Tankers transit the narrow channel in the Persian Gulf use two-mile wide channels demarcated in each direction, sailing through Iranian territorial waters in the north and Omani waters in the south.

Under the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea, ships have the right of “innocent passage” through the territorial seas of a coastal state.

Iran’s vice-president, Mohammad Reza Rahimi, warned earlier this week that if Western countries go ahead with proposed sanctions against Tehran's crude exports, then “not a drop of oil will pass through the Strait of Hormuz.”

“Any attempt to close the Strait of Hormuz will not be tolerated,” Pentagon spokesman George Little said in response to the threats, describing the waterway as “an economic lifeline for countries in the Gulf region.”

A senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commander, Brig.-Gen. Hossein Salami, fired back, telling the Fars news agency Thursday, “our response to threats is threats” and saying the U.S. was not in any position to prevent Iran from shutting the waterway.

Adding to the bluster, Iranian military spokesmen said a U.S. aircraft carrier had been monitored this week as it moved eastward through the Strait of Hormuz, near the area where Iran’s navy is holding wargames.

Iran has been carrying out extensive naval maneuvers in a wide area including the eastern approaches to Hormuz, with some politicians characterizing the wargames as a warning to the West. The drills are scheduled to run through January 3.

The Pentagon’s Little described the movement of the carrier USS John C. Stennis and accompanying vessels through the strait as a “pre-planned, routine transit.”

The carrier was earlier deployed off Iraq, where according to the U.S. Navy it carried out the final air mission in support of Operation New Dawn on December 18. It is now in the Arabian Sea, where it will support the mission in Afghanistan, Operation Enduring Freedom.

Should the Strait of Hormuz be closed to shipping – through Iranian action or for any other reason – an alternative route for oil moving through the Gulf to world markets would be via the 745-mile East-West pipeline across Saudi Arabia to the Red Sea. From there, tankers would have to sail north through the Suez canal or south through the Gulf of Aden.

But according to the Department of Energy’s Energy Information Administration, while the Hormuz route accounts for up to 17 million barrels of oil a day (15.5 million in 2009) the Saudi pipeline only has the capacity to handle five million barrels a day. Longer, alternative routes would also push up costs, the EIA says.

Asked whether the U.S. was doing any contingency planning or holding discussions with other oil producers in case Iran closed the strait, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland issued a brief statement Thursday.

“The United States maintains a regular, full and robust dialogue with significant energy producing and consuming countries on various aspects of the oil markets, including contingency plans in the event of disruptions to those markets,” the statement said. “We cannot, however, comment on the specifics of these discussions.”

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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

On Iran’s threat to close Hormuz, the Texan congressman said that as president he would not respond with military action to any such move, as he would not consider it an act of war against the United States. Instead, he would refer the matter to the U.S. Congress.

LOL!

You just can't imagine not being the policemen of the world, or the police force for the UN, can you?

The foreign policy that you prefer is leftist.

Wanna talk about that?

We The People  posted on  2012-01-01   10:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: We The People (#1)

Somebody's always top dog, which country would you like it to be?

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-01   10:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Happy Quanzaa (#2)

We have enough nukes to distroy the earth 14times over...it,s way past time for us to start minding our own business.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-01   10:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Happy Quanzaa (#2)

The foreign policy that you prefer is leftist.

Wanna talk about that?

Somebody's always top dog, which country would you like it to be?

Is that a yes or a no?

Asking which country I'd like to be 'top dog' has nothing to do with my question.

Do you believe that our interventions into other nations affairs will keep us "top dog" or is it helping to collapse us like the Soviet Union?

We The People  posted on  2012-01-01   10:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: freedomsnotfree (#3)

We have enough nukes to distroy the earth 14times over...it,s way past time for us to start minding our own business.

In some ways I agree with minding our own business.... but.... how are you going to feel about gas prices coming close to doubling if production isn't made up by us or other countries???? All because a few loonytoon ragheads are having a temper tantrum???? And what about the people in the rest of the world who will ending up paying even more than that????

But also remember that your current government wants you to pay that much (to keep you under it's thumb) and so consequently will do nothing about tapping our own reserves to help alleviate the problem....

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-01   11:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: We The People (#4)

Other nation's affairs are our nation's affair when they attack us or our allies, or cut off free trade to a vital resource that stifles our economy. The warfare isn't what kills our economy, or killed the Soviet's, it's the attempt to rebuild them in our image afterward that does. Nation building is a joke, especially in 3rd World Muslim countries. I've no problem with reducing our enemies to smouldering ruins and leaving it at that.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-01   11:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Happy Quanzaa (#6)

Other nation's affairs are our nation's affair when they attack us or our allies, or cut off free trade to a vital resource that stifles our economy. The warfare isn't what kills our economy, or killed the Soviet's, it's the attempt to rebuild them in our image afterward that does. Nation building is a joke, especially in 3rd World Muslim countries. I've no problem with reducing our enemies to smouldering ruins and leaving it at that.

So trade at the point of a gun is now considered "free"? You libertarians have gone off the deep end.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-01   11:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mininggold (#7)

You libertarians have gone off the deep end.

Yep, keeping us free from your friends flying airliners into skyscrapers and nuking Tel Aviv.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-01   11:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Happy Quanzaa (#6) (Edited)

Other nation's affairs are our nation's affair when they attack us or our allies, or cut off free trade to a vital resource that stifles our economy.

Yet Iran has not attacked us or our allies. In fact, Iran hasn't attacked anyone in hundreds of years.

Second point...oil is not oxygen. You would not die a quick and agonizing death because you were temporarily inconvenienced with higher gasoline prices. Even if they followed through on their BLUFF, Iran cutting off the Straight, temporarily, is not an act of war against the United States. At most it's an inconvenience.

Do we consider going to war when OPEC raises its oil prices?

The warfare isn't what kills our economy, or killed the Soviet's, it's the attempt to rebuild them in our image afterward that does.

Warfare is spending, not to mention revolutionary and leftist. Out of control spending killed the Soviet Union and it will collapse us just the same. We are not invincible to our own spending.

Nation building is a joke, especially in 3rd World Muslim countries.

We agree completely on this point.

I've no problem with reducing our enemies to smouldering ruins and leaving it at that.

I don't have a problem with that either, if we're attacked directly.

It's very hard having a logical conversation with you. See, if you ask me a question, or make a direct point, I would answer it, directly. That's just common courtesy.

So far I've asked you 2 questions, and you've not answered either directly, but I assume that you're answering them in a more 'round about way'?.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-01   11:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mininggold (#7)

So trade at the point of a gun is now considered "free"?

Great point.

It would have been much more effective without the insult.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-01   11:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: We The People (#10)

It would have been much more effective without the insult.

You would be more effective if you would stop the moderatoresque nanny comments.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-01   11:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Happy Quanzaa (#8)

Yep, keeping us free from your friends flying airliners into skyscrapers and nuking Tel Aviv.

Ir's all Israel all the time with you, isn't it?

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-01   11:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#11)

It would have been much more effective without the insult.

You would be more effective if you would stop the moderatoresque nanny comments.

Sorry, it's a fatal flaw.

I actually prefer that my adult conversations are with adults.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-01   11:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: We The People (#13)

Sorry, it's a fatal flaw.

I actually prefer that my adult conversations are with adults.

Then you shouldn't post on anonymous forums.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-01   12:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mininggold (#14)

Sorry, it's a fatal flaw.

I actually prefer that my adult conversations are with adults.

Then you shouldn't post on anonymous forums.

I'll take that into consideration.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-01   12:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CZ82 (#5)

In some ways I agree with minding our own business.... but.... how are you going to feel about gas prices coming close to doubling if production isn't made up by us or other countries????

...then we need to produce it and stop stealing the resources of other nations. We are in the firm grip of global communists running our government, in BOTH parties...the question is when are we going to throw off the yoke and start acting like a free people. The liars, crooks, murderers, thieves and those that "hate us for our freedoms" reside on the Potomac, not the middle east...they're traitors to all that's decent and good. Ron Paul is the ONLY one standing up to these people and for Constitutional government...the fact that some of the posters on this forum don't see it, doesn't mean he's wrong...just that they are grossly unaware of the current state of affairs.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-01   12:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Happy Quanzaa (#6)

Other nation's affairs are our nation's affair when they attack us or our allies, or cut off free trade to a vital resource that stifles our economy.

then we need to get uninvolved in tangling alliances. The global communists, in BOTH parties, don't want a nation with the ability to be self sustaining, they want "interdependence". And this "so called" "free trade" isn't free at all...just ask the millions that are jobless and lost their home...this is about destroying the middle class so you can control the people. Marx was a HUGE supporter of "free trade". We've gone from the wealthiest nation in the world to a debt of over 100 TRILLION dollars...explain to me again about free trade and endless wars...as our borders are being FORCED to remain open.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-01   12:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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