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Title: Willie Green gone but not forgotten by Howlin
Source: freerepublic
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1723887/posts?page=216#179
Published: Oct 22, 2006
Author: willie green, howlin, jim robinson
Post Date: 2006-10-22 13:53:22 by TLBSHOW
Keywords: None
Views: 5509
Comments: 32

To: Willie Green

"No Jim, it's time to throw the bums out."

We can't do that. All WE can do is throw the REPUBLICAN bums out. And after we do that, the DEMOCRAT bums will be so deeply entrenched, we'll never get them out. Can you say wandering in a liberal/socialist wilderness for the next forty years?

94 posted on 03/27/2006 9:27:17 PM EST by Jim Robinson People need to get a clue.

224 posted on 10/22/2006 1:49:05 PM EDT by Howlin

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GOP Losses Could Spark Partisan Warfare

The White House is bracing for guerrilla warfare on the homefront politically if Republicans lose control of the House, the Senate or both - and with it, the president's ability to shape and dominate the national agenda.

Republicans are battling to keep control of Congress. But polls and analysts in both parties increasingly suggest Democrats will capture the House and possibly the Senate on Election Day Nov. 7.

Democrats need a 15-seat pickup to regain the House and a gain of six seats to claim the Senate.

Everything could change overnight for President Bush, who has governed for most of the past six years with a Republican Congress and with little support from Democrats.

"Every session you change the way you do business with the Congress. And you test the mood of the Congress, find out what their appetite will be. But it doesn't change your priorities," the president told ABC News.

Former President Clinton had to deal with the Democrats' loss of control of Congress in 1994. But Clinton had something Bush does not: six more years to regain his footing.

Bush has barely over two years left. The loss of either house in voting next month could hasten Bush's descent into a lame-duck presidency.

"If he loses one house here, President Bush will enter the last two years very wounded," said David Gergen, a former White House adviser who served in the administrations of Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Clinton.

"He will have the capacity to say no to Democratic legislation, but he won't have the capacity to say yes to his own legislation," said Gergen, who teaches at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.

Democratic victories essentially could block Bush's remaining agenda and usher in a period of intense partisan bickering over nearly every measure to come before Congress.

Loss of either chamber also could subject his administration to endless congressional inquiries and investigations.

The president and chief political strategist Karl Rove last week expressed renewed confidence of retaining both House and Senate; others are not so upbeat.

"All of our numbers look pretty bad and there's no question that there's a jet stream in our face," said House Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio.

Furthermore, some of Bush's fighting in the trenches is likely to be with fellow Republicans as they seek to find a new standard bearer for 2008 - and distance themselves from an unpopular war, the unpopular president who waged it, and congressional scandals that include inappropriate e-mails to House pages from ex-Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla.

"There's no question that the Republican coalition is stressed over the way Washington has been handling fiscal matters, the Foley affair, the Iraq war," said GOP consultant Scott Reed. "All of these are coming together at the same time."

Already, Republicans are showing divisions on Iraq policy. Fresh skepticism has come from Senate Armed Services Chairman John Warner of Virginia, Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison and former Secretary of State James A. Baker III, a longtime Bush family loyalist.

If Republicans lose their majorities, it will be that much harder for Bush to hold together already splintering GOP cohesion on Iraq.

Bush has been quoted by journalist Bob Woodward as saying, "I'll stay in Iraq even if the only support I have left is from my wife and my dog." A Democratic takeover and Republican defections could make that day seem closer.

While the Senate has been difficult for Bush, even with GOP control, the House for most of his presidency has delivered for him. That could be about to change.

The White House traditionally loses seats in midterm congressional races. The most recent exception was 2002, when Bush's party picked up seats.

Many Democrats see the upcoming elections as a mirror image of 1994, with the parties reversed.

Then, Republicans rallied behind firebrand Rep. Newt Gingrich of Georgia, announced a "Contract with America," and stormed to victory, seizing both House and Senate from Democrats.

It was a huge blow to Clinton, made worse by the lavish and almost-presidential reception Gingrich received around Washington as he was inaugurated as House speaker.

Doug Schoen, Clinton's pollster then, said those times were bleak, including Clinton's baleful insistence to reporters in early 1995 that "the president is relevant."

But Clinton soon figured out how to enhance his relevance and influence, reaching out to Republicans on some of their own issues, such as welfare law overhaul and "talking about the common good," said Schoen. Clinton went on to easily win re-election in 1996.

But Schoen said he doubts Bush can do the same: "After 9-11, except for a brief period, he's governed from the right. There's so much bitterness and division, it's going to be tougher for him to do it than perhaps it was for Clinton."

Some of Bush's sharpest critics would rise to top positions with a Democratic takeover.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., probably would become speaker. Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., a foe of extending Bush tax cuts, would become chairman of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee.

Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, who has sponsored legislation calling for steps that could open the way to Bush's impeachment, would lead the Judiciary Committee.

If Democrats win the Senate, Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada - one of the most outspoken of all Bush critics - probably would ascend to majority leader.

The Republican Party chairman, Ken Mehlman, even raises the specter of a leadership troika of Pelosi, Reid and Democratic party chief Howard Dean, in GOP fundraising mailings to Republicans.

Bush, in his own get-out-the-vote appeal, told Republicans: "The consequences of not succeeding this fall are dire for our agenda for America."

Bush even suggested last week that insurgents in Iraq were stepping up their violence in a bid to influence the elections.

Polls in 2006 show a more dramatic tilt toward the Democrats than polling in 1994 showed a tilt toward Republicans. But redistricting has made far fewer congressional districts competitive.

A Democratic takeover of one or more chambers would all but guarantee that Bush would not get his Social Security overhaul or further tax cuts through Congress.

One Bush initiative that actually might see improved chances is his immigration proposal for a "guest worker" program. That actually has more Democratic than Republican support.

Stephen Wayne, a professor of government at Georgetown University, said a loss of House or Senate would cripple Bush domestically - but might actually give him more room to find a way out of Iraq.

"Were he to choose to moderate the course in Iraq, the Democrats would say, `I told you so' and the Republicans would say, `Thank you,'" said Wayne.

http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2006/10/22/ap3110234.html

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-22   14:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TLBSHOW (#0)

To: Tijeras_Slim

You know, I miss Willie, too. He loved trains and actually encouraged me to take my first train ride and write about it on FR.

He was our resident unappeasable for a long time; then he broke "bad" for some reason. But he was one that you could disgree with on some issues and still agree on others.

I still miss him.

236 posted on 10/22/2006 12:54:04 PM CDT by Howlin

Thank-you, Howlin.
I miss you also.
But as everybody knows, I'm not the one who broke "bad".

... Don't you ever wonder how and why the politically inexperienced, bad boy, G W Bush, got himself born again, rehabilitated and groomed to become governor of Texas? Not to mention front-runner in the Presidential race? What experience did/does he have for either position? A Bush presidency will be very dangerous for America.

30 Posted on 10/23/1999 18:02:42 PDT by Jim Robinson
(George Bush Covers-up for Clinton and China)

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2006-10-22   14:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#2)

Bush 1 was on larry king last night and said bill clinton is at the white house all the time to see his son, under the RADER OF THE MEDIA~

GEORGE 1 SAYS BILL IS A GREAT GUY AND ONE THAT YOU JUST CAN'T HELP TO LIKE..

says you would have to meet him to know this...

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-22   15:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Willie Green (#2)

still miss him.

236 posted on 10/22/2006 12:54:04 PM CDT by Howlin

lol

To: Ethrane

Steyn has a gift.

Yes, he does, but so do we. As loath as I am to quote TLBSHOW, "the gift is to see". Now what are we gonna do?

*runs, screaming*

It's really an almost impossible situation. But it isn't completely. And somewhere between impossible and possible, we absolutely must find our stations, do our jobs, and win.

21 posted on 10/12/2006 12:15:33 AM EDT by AnnaZ

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-22   15:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TLBSHOW (#3)

Bush 1 was on larry king last night and said bill clinton is at the white house all the time to see his son, under the RADER OF THE MEDIA~

Yeah...
The Bent One probably sneaks in past the media wearing a blue dress and black beret...
for a friendly game of "cigars".

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2006-10-22   15:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TLBSHOW (#0)

To: Conservative Goddess
...Doesn't anyone remember how many of these same perpetually angry soreheads punished and "reformed" the GOP in 1992 by allowing the most despicable piece of human debris ever to hold public office in the US to become President and Commander in Chief of our armed forces?...
533 posted on 10/22/2006 4:32:00 PM CDT by epow

I remember it quite well.
Our anger and rejection of Bush I in '92 is also what lit a fire under the GOP's butt, forcing 'em to come up with the "Contract with America" in '94.

But the SOBs weaseled out of that Contract, so it's time to spank their asses again.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2006-10-22   20:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Willie Green (#6)

I remember it quite well. Our anger and rejection of Bush I in '92 is also what lit a fire under the GOP's butt, forcing 'em to come up with the "Contract with America" in '94.

But the SOBs weaseled out of that Contract, so it's time to spank their asses again.

I voted Perot in 92. You are right it is time for another ass whippin. This time I won't be voting for Republicans again after 2 years. Probably NEVER AGAIN!

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-22   20:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Willie Green, Howlin (#6)

I never saw Howlin as the boogeywoman that many ex-FReepers have...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-22   20:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#7)

"I won't be voting for Republicans again after 2 years."

More RATS ain't the solution to what ails this nation...voting 3rd-party remains noble, though...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-22   20:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Mudboy Slim (#9)

"I won't be voting for Republicans again after 2 years."

More RATS ain't the solution to what ails this nation...voting 3rd-party remains noble, though...MUD

Were we a more free and better country in the late 80's when the democrats controlled congress and the senate, or now when the Republicans control everything. I think we were better off in the late 80's.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-22   20:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Willie Green (#5)

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/05/lkl.01.html

KING: Your son, I asked him on the unveiling of the Clinton portrait in the White House he had Hillary and Bill there and he was effusive in his praise of Bill Clinton and so when I asked him, the president, why, he said, "It's impossible not to like Bill Clinton."

BUSH: Well, they do. I think they see more of each other than is publicly written, not a lot but I know Bill was over there a while back at lunch, very quiet. I think off the record. It needed to be.

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-22   21:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mudboy Slim (#8)

I never saw Howlin as the boogeywoman that many ex-FReepers have...MUD

I always got along well with her, despite our differences,
and have never been a Howlin-basher, either before or after I was backstabbed by Jimmy.

Marple is a different story. A ton of sugar couldn't sweeten that sourpuss.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2006-10-22   21:50:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Willie Green (#2) (Edited)

Thank-you, Howlin.

I miss you also.

You shall be known by the company you keep. Willie Green, I don't miss you at 4um at all. :)

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-22   22:32:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: RickyJ (#13)

ann coulter on drudge now

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-22   22:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mudboy Slim (#8)

I never saw Howlin as the boogeywoman that many ex-FReepers have...MUD

I see her as a whorish demented demon bent on serving her master at all costs.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-22   22:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TLBSHOW (#14)

ann coulter on drudge now

Well maybe he's bi-sexual after all.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-22   22:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: RickyJ (#16)

COULTER: We don't have enough people at the border. We don't have enough people to keep us safe in Washington, D.C.

O'REILLY: Absolutely.

COULTER: We don't have enough people to stop, you know, bear attacks in New Jersey. OK. What's the point?

O'REILLY: Look, here is what's going to happen. If at this time next year the situation in Iraq is the same as it is now, Republicans will lose all kinds of things in the elections. Hillary Clinton will be elected...

COULTER: But according to you, it should be worse now than it was last year.

O'REILLY: Well, it's not according it me. It's according to all the statistics that our military analysts have uncovered. Not according to me.

COULTER: Last year I said the war was going well. You said the war was going badly. I've just run off a whole slew of things that I consider magnificent successes in the past year, and by contrast we don't have the elite Republican Guard massing outside of New York City or charging — we do have to take the war to them, as we see from the bombings in London and the idiotic response in New York. We can't check every bag of every person to board every subway from now until kingdom come. We have to take the way to them.

O'REILLY: Look, we all know that. A realistic assessment of this action...

COULTER: This constant harping, I think, is just going to lead to another Vietnam, or at least I don't think it will because I think the American people are better than that. But I don't know what the point of it is. War is hell.

O'REILLY: The point is you want to win the situation. And the point is we aren't winning right now, according to our military analysts.

Let's get to the border.

COULTER: We don't win until we win.

O'REILLY: Let's get to the border. Now, certainly we're not winning that. Certainly that chaos has been going on for six years under President Bush, and he hasn't improved the situation one iota, as far as I can see. Do you disagree with that?

COULTER: I do not.

O'REILLY: Thank you. My God.

COULTER: I do not. And it's being going on a lot longer than six years.

O'REILLY: I know, but you expect the Clinton and the Democrats not to do anything.

COULTER: Right. Right.

O'REILLY: But you don't expect a president who's committed to our national security to allow this to happen.

COULTER: Right. No, it's absolutely baffling. Sometimes you have to do the principled thing even if it will cost you votes. Here, doing the principled thing will win you votes.

And still Republicans and Democrats, as you say, they don't really care about national security, but the Republicans, I think George Bush seems to think that this will hurt him with the Hispanic vote or hurt Republicans with the Hispanic vote, which is crazy.

It's a complete misreading of Proposition 187 in California, which a majority of Hispanics voted in favor of. People forget about that. It was a court that overturned that. That was denying public benefits to illegal immigrants.

A majority of Hispanics voted in favor of that. To equate Hispanics with lawbreakers it seems to me is the racist position here, but I think that's what's driving the Republicans.

O'REILLY: All right. Well, you and I agree on that. We disagree a little bit...

COULTER: I'm glad to hear that.

O'REILLY: But I want everybody to know, I want to win in Iraq, and I don't think we have the resources right now to win. If the Iraqis step up and improve their performance, yes, but that has not been proven.

Ann, always a pleasure. You're welcome any time. Thank you.

COULTER: Thank you.

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-22   22:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Willie Green (#12)

Marple is a different story. A ton of sugar couldn't sweeten that sourpuss.

I'll bet that you have a super duper crush on nopardons.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-10-22   22:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Fred Mertz (#18)

if you like classical music no pardons is for you...LOL

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-22   22:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: TLBSHOW (#17)

COULTER: Last year I said the war was going well. You said the war was going badly. I've just run off a whole slew of things that I consider magnificent successes in the past year

Somebody please buy that woman a clue pill.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-10-22   22:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Fred Mertz (#20)

she says republicans lose big time thsi year

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-22   23:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Fred Mertz (#20)

http://www.kfyi.com/cc-common/streaming_new/index.html?refreshed=yes

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-22   23:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: RickyJ (#13)

You shall be known by the company you keep. Willie Green, I don't miss you at 4um at all. :)

So take a good look at my face
You'll see my smile looks out of place
If you look closer, it's easy to trace
The tracks of my tears..

< /sarcasm >

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2006-10-23   15:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Willie Green (#12)

"Marple is a different story."

I actually met Miss Marple at the FReeper White House tour a few years back...she was quite nice in person, but we really haven't had much correspondence on line...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-23   19:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Mudboy Slim (#8)

That is because Howlin (and to a lesser extent nopardons) always seem to be pushing their weight around with anti Bush posters very shortly before they get BANNED. TLBSHOW and Fred Mertz are prime examples of this. They are either mods or have some kind of control over the mods that we dont know about.

The papacy has made colossal fools of untold millions of people down through history, and it is still doing so today.

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-10-23   19:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: RickyJ (#15)

You seem overly bitter, Ricky.

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-24   21:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mudboy Slim (#26) (Edited)

You seem overly bitter, Ricky.

Howlin is a sick person. She would cut your head off just to please her masters. The truth is the truth, it will not change just because you don't like hearing it.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-25   0:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Mudboy Slim (#24)

I actually met Miss Marple at the FReeper White House tour a few years back...she was quite nice in person, but we really haven't had much correspondence on line...MUD

The Devil himself would appear as a nice person, but would stab you in the back in a heartbeat. Miss Marple is a demented whore for her master too. Lucifer uses her like a cheap whore, and she screams for more.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-25   0:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: RickyJ (#27)

"She would cut your head off just to please her masters."

Hmmm...I've never heard that she was into decapitation...can you link me to a source fer yer allegation?

Regards...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-25   13:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: RickyJ (#28)

"Miss Marple is a demented whore for her master too. Lucifer uses her like a cheap whore, and she screams for more."

Bitter bitter bitter...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-25   13:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Mudboy Slim (#30)

She watches live reporting of the war on Fox news while she cheers for Satan's children to wipe out the Lebanese and Palestinians. Satan owns her.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-25   14:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: RickyJ (#31)

So, the Jooooz are Satan's children? Sheeeesh....bitter.

"The Right is Right!!"
(To be sung to Bruce Springsteen's "The Ties That Bind")

Left is hurtin', but "Libs're all fired up", you say...
RATS walk down the street pushin' FReepers outta their way...
Left packed their bags and say they're gone to Europe, guys...
Right don't want nuthin'...don't need Guv'ment by our side...
Left's lookin' rough, Nation...'cuz they're walkin' blind!!
Folks, the Right is right!!

The Right is ri-i-i-i-i-ight!!
Now, fools can't sa-a-a-a-a-ay, "The Right is Right!!"

The FReepers dance, 'cuz we love so much...
We don't want nuthin' from yer Guvernment's FRee lunch!!
Left's so afraid of FReedom, they're Guv'ment's fools...
Left's lookin' rough, Nation...they're weak poltroons!!
Right's not fools, but Dubyuh, will you walk the line?!!
And face that Right is Right!!
Yes, Right is Ri-i-i-i-ight!!
Now, you can't fa-a-a-a-a-ake that Right is Right!!

Woah-woah...
Right would rather see the TRUTH, that's Right...yes, we would, Darlin'...
We know the sleaziness the Left must hide...
Left, they're fools, America...Left is foolhardy...
Yes, they are, Nation!!

(Musical interlude)

Fools sit and wonder...just HOO's gonna stop the pain...
HOO'll ease yer madness?!! HOO's gonna fight 'gainst Left's stain?!!
It's a long, stark campaign and Jean Kerry's lyin'!!
Reject the Left, Nation...'cuz Slick's been spyin'!!
We're comin' now, but FReepers, we will stand and fight!!
JimRob says, "Stand and Fight!!"
The Right is Ri-i-i-i-ight!!
Now, you can't fa-a-a-a-a-ake that Right is Right!!
You can't fergit that Right is Right!!

Mudboy Slim (04/02/2004)

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-25   15:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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