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Title: No, Really, Ron Paul Cannot Win
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URL Source: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/12/really-ron-paul-cannot-win.html
Published: Dec 19, 2011
Author: Jonathan Chait
Post Date: 2011-12-19 19:46:45 by Mad Dog
Keywords: the TRUTH, HURTS, PaulTards
Views: 56078
Comments: 135

Andrew Sullivan, following up his (Republican primary) endorsement of Ron Paul, argues today that campaign reporters and pundits who say he can’t win the nomination are all wrong: We were told one thing after his extensive riff last week on the paranoia around Iran's nuclear weapons, his defense of blowback theory in our encounters with Jihadist terrorism, and his open denunciation of the greatest mistake of his own party in the last decade, the Iraq war (where every other candidate is silent). We were told this ended his candidacy, that there was no constituency for this in the current GOP, that he was throwing it all away, that he has, as the Ailes memo clearly has it, zero chance of getting the nomination.

Well: now he's ahead in Iowa. And, yes, it remains a long, long, long shot. But you know what?

Yes he can.

No, he really can’t.

It would be nearly impossible to imagine the Republican Party nominating a candidate who spent years and years publishing a racist newsletter and has deep associations with the fringe far right.

(Here he is speaking to the John Birch Society on the occasion of its 50th anniversary.)

It would be even more impossible to imagine the Party nominating a candidate who favors total withdrawal from world affairs and takes a Chomsky-ite line on American power. The notion that the Party might nominate a candidate who does both these things is totally preposterous.

Now, Andrew is framing his argument as an argument against a zero chance.

Well, sure. It’s not zero. Paul could win the nomination. It’s also possible that Democrats will follow the Schoen–Caddell plan of nominating Hillary Clinton over President Obama, and Obama will flip to the GOP, and Republicans will nominate Obama, and the general election will be Clinton-Obama II: This Time It’s for All the Marbles.

It’s possible Newt Gingrich will announce the result of a secret experiment he undertook to resurrect Ronald Reagan through saved brain DNA, implanted in the body of a dinosaur created through similar methods, and that Reaganosaurus will rampage through the Republican field, capture the nomination and, in a climactic debate with Obama, devour him in a single bite.

But reporters have good reason to ignore possibilities such as those or a Ron Paul nomination.

Paul’s supporters seem to believe that the media ignoring him is the only thing keeping him from challenging for the Party nomination.

More likely, it’s the only thing that’s allowed his candidacy to progress to this point.

If more people actually understood the full scope of Paul’s fringe-right views, a huge portion of his support would peel off.

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#101. To: Mad Dog (#0) (Edited)

No, he really can’t.

It would be nearly impossible to imagine the Republican Party nominating a candidate who spent years and years publishing a racist newsletter and has deep associations with the fringe far right.

Your anti-Paul smear campaign isn't working. You are an unwitting tool of the MSM.

Your seething hatred for Ron Paul has got you obsessed. You'll keep slinging s**t just to see what sticks, you back-pedal and spit libelous venom just like the good little liberal Alinsky disciple you are.

Possible Ron Paul Iowa Win Drives NeoCons to Apoplexy

Rep. Ron Paul’s top-tier status heading into Iowa and New Hampshire means he definitely can’t be totally ignored by the major media, as he has been in the past. So the censors and blackout artists have been replaced by the smear bund. This past week they got pretty well revved up, but they’re still probably a long way from being in high gear.

As The New American's Jack Kenny noted here a couple of days ago in his article, “Campaign Could Get 'Downright Ugly' if Paul Wins Iowa,” the Big Government Republicans are sharpening their knives for a bloodfest.


But they’re not waiting for the results of the January 3, 2012 Iowa caucuses to get ugly.

Over the past week, the apoplectic attack dogs of the neoconservative kennel were unleashed for a rabid, howling blitz against the Texas Congressman. It’s testimony to Dr. Paul’s squeaky clean personal and political life that the attackers have been forced to fabricate issues with which to clobber him. No sex scandals.

No political payoffs from Freddie Mac or favoritism for Goldman Sachs.

No political flip-flops on issues. No sellouts to special interests.

So how do you attack a straight arrow such as Dr. Paul who is a constitutional purist and has doggedly stuck to his convictions for over three decades of public life?

Well, they’re dusting off their playbook from the 2008 presidential campaign, and adding a few new twists. The smear bund is harping on several memes, hoping that sufficient repetition from multiple voices will convince voters that Ron Paul is “dangerous,” “crazy,” a “pacifist,” an “isolationist,” a “conspiracy crank,” and a “grumpy old man.”

And, let’s not forget, most of all, the “racist” and “anti-Semite” labels the smear bund is attempting to affix to Ron Paul. In adopting this tactic, the neocon attack dogs have torn a page from the Obama/Democrat/MSM “progressive” playbook.

Smear Attacks Have No Effect, Ron Paul Still On Course To Win Iowa

The establishment media is losing its power to sabotage the march of liberty

Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Despite a barrage of smear attacks from every single corner of the mainstream media over the last two weeks, Ron Paul’s chances of winning the Iowa Republican Primary have if anything increased, with a new poll showing Paul increasing his lead over Mitt Romney while the New York Times’ primary projection shows Paul’s chances of winning at 60% compared with Romney at 31%.


The sheer desperation of the establishment in its efforts to topple Ron Paul are staggering to behold. Everything from bitter former employees of the Paul campaign, to ludicrous You Tube videos of crying women, to the re-hashed debunked 15-year-old smears about ‘racist’ newsletters, every single piece of dirt imaginable has been thrown at Paul – but nothing has stuck.

This phenomenon once again illustrates the fact, as we saw during Rand Paul’s senatorial campaign, that the corporate press is now so distrusted by a significant portion of Americans that their coordinated smear attacks, which used to have the power to sink candidates almost overnight, are now rapidly losing influence.

It also highlights the fact that the smear attacks against Paul have been completely hyped and exaggerated out of all proportion.

Whereas Herman Cain’s adventurous sex life cost him the frontrunner’s position and forced him to drop out of the race altogether, likewise with Gingrich when the exposure of his true political inclinations decimated his commanding lead, the so-called scandals about Ron Paul are so transparently weak and have been distorted out of all rational proportions, that their impact has been non-existent on the polling figures.

That assertion is proven by the numbers – which show Paul’s lead in Iowa has held firm

A new Public Policy Polling survey shows Ron Paul at 24% with Romney in second at 20% and Gingrich in third at 13%. That’s a one percentage point increase in Paul’s lead compared to the last PPP poll conducted ten days ago.

“Paul continues to have much more passionate support than Romney. 77% of his voters are firmly committed to him, compared to 71% for Romney. Among voters who say their minds are completely made up Paul’s lead expands to 7 points at 28-21. If Paul’s lead holds on through next Tuesday it appears he’ll have won this on the ground,” reports PPP.

In addition, the New York Times’ primary projection shows that Paul now has a 60% chance of winning Iowa compared to Romney with a 31% chance. Last week, the two candidates were level by this measurement but now Paul has pulled ahead.

If there’s anything that frightens the establishment as much as Ron Paul gaining the kind of momentum that could catapult him into the frontrunner position in other primary states, it’s the fact that the corporate press and all their simpering hangers-on no longer have the power to dictate reality.

The smear attacks have failed – Ron Paul is still on course to win Iowa and his momentum will continue to build.

********************* *******

BTW, I want to thank you and your ilk for showing the complete lunacy of the anti-Paul zealots.

You are drawing more supporters to our side every time you post your bilge.

You must be very pleased with yourself for doing the bidding of the liberal MSM.

Voters can see through the lies of the MSM hit pieces, so just keep posting your disinformation. The more that frightened little neo-clowns like you post your ignorant bilge, the more supporters Ron Paul gains.

Paul maintains his lead

Paul maintains his lead

The last week and a half has brought little change in the standings for the Iowa Republican caucus: Ron Paul continues to lead Mitt Romney by a modest margin, 24-20. Newt Gingrich is in 3rd at 13% followed by Michele Bachmann at 11%, Rick Perry and Rick Santorum at 10%, Jon Huntsman at 4%, and Buddy Roemer at 2%.

Paul's strength in Iowa continues to depend on a coalition of voters that's pretty unusual for a Republican in the state.  Romney leads 22-20 with those who are actually Republicans, while Paul has a 39-12 advantage with the 24% who are either independents or Democrats.

Two new polls (CNN/Time and PPP) released in the last 36 hours show that Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are locked in a tight race for first place in Iowa with the caucuses just five days away.

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Deckard  posted on  2011-12-29   18:46:38 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Deckard (#101)

Your anti-Paul smear campaign isn't working. You are an unwitting tool of the MSM.

Your seething hatred for Ron Paul has got you obsessed. You'll keep slinging s**t just to see what sticks, you back-pedal and spit libelous venom just like the good little liberal Alinsky disciple you are.

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever you say CULT boy.

You're a F' ing Mo-roon CULT boy.

You call the TRUTH about your wee failed FRAUD of a hero an "anti-paul smear campaign"?

LOL! You are tooo F' ing STOOOPID to post on the web CULT boy!

I don't HATE your wee FRAUD failed hero CULT boy I judge him on what he HAS DONE not on what he SAYS.

OVER THIRTY YEARS CULT boy.

I also love how you PaulTards TRY to set up the false choice your wee failed FRAUD hero or the COMMIES!

Newsflash CULT boy I knew who Barry Goldwater was before you were shitting yellow.

I HAVE BLOOD IN THE ANTI-COMMUNIST GAME YOU LITTE BITCH.

Just because I spit with contempt on your POLITICIAN hero CULT boy does NOT mean that I am of the so called "left".

The major thing that your wee failed FRAUD hero REALLY has going AGAINST him is you PaulTards, you insipid azz sucking CULT boy beeeeeyach.

He's just as bad, almost, as the messiah "king" obammy,

(pause to hear all the CULT members scream and cry ...........

BUT .... CULT BOY, I'm on record here, several times CULT boy saying that I'd vote FOR RonniePaulie IF HE WAS THE ONLY CHOICE AGAINST THE MESSIAH "KING" OBAMMY!

So shut the F' up CULT boy.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-12-29   22:09:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Mad Dog (#104)

Whatever you say CULT boy.

You're a F' ing Mo-roon CULT boy.

Keep it up, you drooling liberal shill, keep carrying water for the MSM. Keep getting your talking points from the Alinsky/Progressive playbook.

Like I said earlier, when others see the unprecedented ignorance of you Ron Paul haters, it only draws more supporters to our side.

Man, you make yukon look sane by comparison.

BTW, do you miss your little queer friend?

Deckard  posted on  2011-12-29   22:23:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Deckard (#105)

OH RonniePaulie you're the one!

Oh ... Oh ... OH .... RONNIEPAULIE!

You'r de ONE RonniePaulie! YOU'RE de ONLY ONE Ronnie Paulie

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever you say CULT boy.

You're a F' ing Mo-roon CULT boy.

You call the TRUTH about your wee failed FRAUD of a hero an "anti-paul smear campaign" CULT boy?

LOL! You are tooo F' ing STOOOPID to post on the web CULT boy!

I don't HATE your wee FRAUD failed hero CULT boy I judge him on what he HAS DONE not on what he SAYS.

OVER THIRTY YEARS CULT boy.

I also love how you PaulTards TRY to set up the false choice your wee failed FRAUD hero or the COMMIES!

Newsflash CULT boy I knew who Barry Goldwater was before you were shitting yellow.

I HAVE BLOOD IN THE ANTI-COMMUNIST GAME YOU LITTLE CULT boy BITCH.

Just because I spit with contempt on your POLITICIAN hero CULT boy does NOT mean that I am of the so called "left".

The major thing that your wee failed FRAUD hero REALLY has going AGAINST him is you PaulTards, you insipid azz sucking CULT boy beeeeeyach.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-12-29   23:05:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Mad Dog (#106)

The major thing that your wee failed FRAUD hero REALLY has going AGAINST him is you PaulTards, you insipid azz sucking CULT boy beeeeeyach.

Yet America is + 26 Trillion in debt now Dog
Clinton's admin had a surplus,....[not saying Clinton is good,....or clean,...ie...he's Globalist trash]
Yet Bush 43 launched these wars.....these wars which have documented thinktank desire behind them
Project for a New American Century PNAC...

"New Pearl Harbor"

Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor" (51).[14]

Though not arguing that Bush administration PNAC members were complicit in those attacks, other social critics such as commentator Manuel Valenzuela and journalist Mark Danner,[41][42][43] investigative journalist John Pilger, in New Statesman,[44] and former editor of The San Francisco Chronicle Bernard Weiner, in CounterPunch,[45] all argue that PNAC members used the events of 9/11 as the "Pearl Harbor" that they needed––that is, as an "opportunity" to "capitalize on" (in Pilger's words), in order to enact long-desired plans. [Wiki]

We can go around and around with this....from Banker/Globalist leverage that period...to US/NATO/AFRICOM taking Libya from Kaddafi
the same overt presence.....running drones over Iran,....Predator drone attacks over Pakistan and other locals worldwide.
Its out of control Dog,.....Ron Paul stands for accountability
None of the other trash running will break up the Illegal Jeckyll Island Federal Reserve which has enslaved America,
or turn off*...these overt military adventures which eventually end up on Russia and China's doorstep
and we both know what happens then.
America's Military has served with honor and great endurance in its history
yet that* military is now being hijacked into a Globalist design which we know exists,...via Zbigniew Brzeinski's The Grand Chessboard,....the ramblings of Gravel tone [Henry Kissinger]....PNAC and the other Neo con think tanks.

War with Iran will clobber America financially ...bring severe hardship to an already strung out/stressed out nation,....coping with ever increasing Fascism and the lies of its Gov.
and ya....the chess pieces move ever closer to Russia and China
who may in some future decade push back from the perceived threat.

Is wanting this madness stopped wrong?
Ron Paul wants it stopped!

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-12-29   23:44:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Parrot with speed dial (#108)

Is wanting this madness stopped wrong?

Ron Paul wants it stopped!

LOL!

Geeze parrot ya convinced me!

Lets make RonniePaulie, (a typical career POLITICIAN, who has over THIRTY years in the US CONgress, TALKING about what he SAYS that he wants to do), into the messiah SAVIOR of the US CONSTITUTION!

YEAH THAT'S the TICKET!

Lets take this sow's ear wee little FRAUD failure CAREER DC POLITICIAN and turn him into, (by dint of pure HOPEYCHANGEY GOODWILL and unicorns), into what he is NOT.

SAVIOR of THE US CONSTITUTION and of the US CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

and ... HE'S THE ONLY ONE!

You F' ing IDIOTS!

Hope doesn't make "it" go!

ACTIONS make "it" go, and that's one thing that your wee FRAUD failure hero has NEVER been able to do.

In THIRTY F' in YEARS.

The man is a functionary NOT a LEADER.

All of the insults and cheap shots at those of us who tell you CULT members these simple TRUTHS just show how much of a FAILURE you wee FRAUD hero is.

Dry your tears gurls.

What a bunch of gibbering CULT of personality chumps.

IDIOTS.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-12-30   1:15:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Mad Dog (#110)

You post this same shit, over and over... And just make yourself look like a complete fool.

If you had even two sentences that had an inkling of merit, it would be an improvement. Instead, you blow hot air out your ass, thinking you're *saying* something.

Shit.

You're the retarded kid winning the race at the special olympics. Yeah, you get the award, but you're *still* just a retard.

Maybe if you said something that indicated an iota of rational thought, that'd change..? As it currently stands, you're no bettet than yukko the flaccid little clown; and in some ways *worse.*

Don't take *my* word for it; look at the responses of others to your idiotic posts.

You're a yapping little shit, who would rather *die* than think. If you don't pull your head out of your ass, that becomes a very real possibility.

Personally, I don't care, either way. If you're too fucking stupid to figure it out, then maybe your removal from the gene-pool is a *good* thing.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-12-30   1:37:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Capitalist Eric (#111)

.

I don't change what I'm saying CULT boy because you brain dead CULT members don't change your CULT worship of a common wee FAILED FRAUD of a POLiTICIAN.

I'm the only one who IS actually thinking here you insipid PaulTard CULT boy phuckwad.

Look at your REACTION to any comment against your CULT hero erica.

You act like a life support system erica.

No mere man deserves such slavish unthinking CULT like love and devotion.

You're correct that in the end, it doesn't matter erica, because RonniePaulie DOESN'T matter, you PaulTards sure don't matter, because he'll NEVER be the repukelican't nominee, he'll NEVER be PRESIDENT of the USA.

Piss and moan, groan and cry; insult the messengers, befoul your own nests, curse the heavens, rend your sack cloth and rub ashes all over yourselves because YOU DON'T MATTER.

RonniePaulie is a FAILED FRAUD POLITICIAN who is LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.

You brain dead tutu wearing preteen gurl klatch CULT beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyach SUCKER.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-12-30   14:56:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Mad Dog (#114)

I don't change what I'm saying ...

The POINT, dummy, is that you're not saying ANYTHING.

You're just spouting bullshit, and being a complete retard.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-12-30   15:45:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Capitalist Eric (#119)

ericaTardusPaulus; The POINT, dummy, is that you're not saying ANYTHING.

You're just spouting bullshit, and being a complete retard.

LOL!

Then the little CULT gurl pitches a wittle fit, and stomps her wittle footsie oh so HARD!

(Oh ,,, Oh .... OH ----- RonniePaulie! You'er de one RONNIEPAULIE! YOU'RE THE ONLEST ONE FER SURE!)

LOL!

Whatever you say CULT gurl whatever you say.

LOL!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-12-30   16:37:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Mad Dog (#123)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.......... <<<<<<< Yawn >>>>>>>>>

Translation of all your bullshit:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-12-30   21:25:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Capitalist Eric (#132)

Oh ROnniePaulie!

OH RONNIE

OH RON NNIE

Your'e the ONE RonniePaulie.

YOUR'E the ONLEST ONE RONNIEPAULIE.

Don't stop don't stop oh RonniePAULIE

You're de One ..............

.

Whatever floats your boat erica.

Works for me erica.

But then ERICA why do you keep talking to me?

Do you enjoy getting b!tch slapped?

Maybe you and calFAG should get a room?

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-12-31   15:42:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#135. To: Mad Dog, Capitalist Eric (#134)

Do you enjoy getting b!tch slapped?

Are you suggesting that your continuous whimpering, yaps, barks, growls and yelps are "bitch slapping?" What do you do with "yukon" anyway?

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