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Title: It's Obama, Stupid: GOP Will Rally for Romney (or Whomever)
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URL Source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar ... ly_for_romney_or_whomever.html
Published: Dec 18, 2011
Author: David Paul Kuhn
Post Date: 2011-12-18 17:32:08 by Mad Dog
Keywords: its the, messiah king obammy and his de, stupid
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Comments: 20
In politics, the antagonist of voters' antagonist is their hero. Newt Gingrich leads Republicans in national polls for the same reason Mitt Romney would rally Republicans in a general election: Barack Obama. The Republican race is defined by seeming imponderables. How could a kingpin of D.C. insiders, a twice-divorced pol who led the charge against a presidential philanderer while himself philandering, take the lead in the party of Tea Party insurgents and social conservatives? And yet, how could the candidate who leaves conservatives so discouraged they’d actually back Gingrich ever unite conservatives in a general election? Gingrich took the lead because he takes it to Obama and to a lesser degree that perennial conservative bête noir -- the media. Conservatives ache for a right-wing pugilist. For now, at least, Gingrich is the candidate of the Republican id. That id has hit Romney hard. He can no longer claim the front-runner mantle. Yet if Romney pulls it out and wins the primary, Republicans will rally behind him. Deaniacs backed John Kerry. Hillary’s die-hards embraced Obama. And no matter what they say now, the Gingrich faddists will stand with Romney if he is the Republican standing against Obama. Protagonists are often overestimated in politics. The liberal Netroots was credited with Democrats’ resurgence in 2006. The Tea Party movement was credited with conservatives’ comeback last year. Both midterm blowouts were fundamentally reactions to the party in power. The Tea Party possibly peaked in November 2010. Yet exit polls found even then that only 22 percent of the electorate said “one reason” for their vote was to “send a message” that’s “in favor of the Tea Party movement.” By comparison, 37 percent of voters said they were expressing “opposition” to Obama. And Obama was not even on the ballot. But Obama will be next year. Thus, more than six in 10 Republicans are enthusiastic about voting for president (really against this president) compared to less than half of Democrats in key swing states, according to Gallup. Democrats know the identity of their candidate. Republicans do not. But Republicans know who they oppose. This is why the political press need not obsess over Romney’s supposed ceiling. The oft- noted statistic: Romney has never attracted more than a quarter of the GOP electorate to him. And so we watch rank-and-file Republicans jump from anti-Romney vessel to anti-Romney vessel (Donald Trump, Michele Bachman, Rick Perry, Herman Cain). If Gingrich actually does not sink, if he wins the nomination, his problem will not be partisans. GOP voters will climb aboard with Gingrich, as they will with Romney, regardless of what we hear and read. “Many conservatives and Tea Partiers would be unlikely to vote for Romney in the general election,” wrote veteran conservative activist Richard Viguerie last month. Prominent conservative blogger Erick Erickson declared, “Conservatives will not rally together with the least of the bad alternatives.” And even George Will -- who should know better (and one suspects he does) -- wrote that should Romney win the nomination, conservatives “will be deflated by a nominee whose blurry profile in caution communicates only calculated trimming.” Yet Obama has proven quite adept at inflaming Republican passions himself. Conservatives understandably hesitate to lift up a man who passed the pilot for the largest entitlement expansion in four decades (health care reform) and is shown on video as recently as 2002 describing his views as “progressive.” But many already have done just that. Recall February 2008. Romney’s moderation was more contemporary. The hard right did not view Obama in today’s harsh light. And there was Romney on stage at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC). The right was rallying to him as the anti-McCain. Conservative radio host Laura Ingraham introduced Romney as “the conservative's conservative.” Yet Romney decided to be the good soldier and bow out. There were cries of “nooo” and “fight on.” The room felt suddenly punctured and many conservatives’ hopes with it. Today, Romney is in the role as the flawed establishment candidate. But those candidates usually survive their “anybody but” challenges. John McCain, John Kerry, George W. Bush and Al Gore faced them and won, like other front-runners before them. This president was a rare, if only partial, exception. Candidate Obama wielded plenty of establishment support, from Edward Kennedy to John Kerry. By design, presidential elections are a choice between imperfect options. Ideologues forever fight this fact, but they ultimately accommodate it. Even Ronald Reagan came from California with bitter pills. The right overlooked his digressions from conservatism in Sacramento (raising taxes to balance the state budget, signing a pre-Roe v. Wade law meant making abortions easier to obtain). Liberals did the same with Obama. They overlooked his moderation, the conflict between the conciliator character and the progressive vision that led him to vote “present” more than a hundred times in the Illinois state Senate. Conservative opposition to Obama might also dissuade a third-party challenge from the right. Neither Ron Paul nor Donald Trump likely wants to be remembered as the candidate who re- elected Obama. Paul has already hinted as much. “I have no intention of doing it,” the Texas congressman told CNN. Paul mounted a third-party bid in 1988. But today he is popular. That popularity might instill prudence. He also has a son in the Senate. Rand Paul ascended on his family’s brand. Republicans would not think too highly of that brand if Paul proves a Perot- like spoiler. Thus, conservatives will likely be forced to choose between the options before them. It’s plausible Paul pulls off Iowa. But he’s too socially libertarian to win the modern right. Jon Huntsman might still have his moment but, beyond once working for the right’s rival, he’s probably too mild-mannered to generate a last-minute wave. That may leave Republicans with a difficult choice between the flawed twosome: Gingrich or Romney. Gingrich is a stronger primary candidate for the reason Romney is a stronger general election candidate. Politics is perception. Only 16 percent of independents view Gingrich positively, according to the NBC-Wall Street Journal poll. Hence, Gingrich trails Obama by double digits in a one-on-one matchup; Romney roughly ties Obama. Today’s Gingrich recalls Howard Dean circa 2004. Hyper-partisan pugilism dissuades persuadable moderates even as it inspires extremes. And Gingrich is inspiring the right. This is why he has “particularly high support” from Republicans who are more likely to vote, according to Gallup. About twice as many Republican primary voters say Gingrich is conservative (57 percent) as say the same about Romney (29 percent), according to the NBC-WSJ poll. Romney must close that gap by highlighting Gingrich’s conservative apostasy (ridicule of the Ryan plan, a global warming ad with Nancy Pelosi, et cetera). In other words, Romney must dent Gingrich’s image as the right’s slugger. Republicans still see the 1994 revolutionary who challenged the previous Democratic president. They watch Gingrich ripping into Obama as a believer in “Saul Alinsky radicalism” or urging Republican candidates to “repudiate every effort of the news media to get Republicans to fight each other to protect Barack Obama.” Gingrich rises the more he appears to be the anti-Obama rather than the anti-Romney. But conservatives’ coolness towards Romney should not be mistaken for opposition. Two- thirds of Republicans and right-leaning independents have a favorable view of Romney, roughly equivalent to Gingrich, according to Gallup polling. Conservatives currently have a more passionately favorable view of Gingrich. But for Republicans, it’s still a choice between candidates who are hardly steadfast conservatives. And with no strong GOP candidate, conservatives will inevitably rely on Obama to stir them. That opposition awaits any Republican. Only one in 10 Republicans approves of Obama’s presidency, by Gallup’s measure. In October, the Pew Research Center found that about a quarter of voters “very strongly” approved of Obama compared to a third who “very strongly” disapproved. Seven in 10 Republicans lined up among those "strong" opponents. Then there’s the anger. Three in four Tea Party supporters do not believe “Obama shares the values most Americans try to live by,” according to a 2010 CBS-New York Times poll. Values conflicts stir the greatest enmity in politics, and with it energy. More conservatives likely would turn out if they had a candidate they passionately support rather than merely one they passionately oppose. But never underestimate the power of a polemical alternative. Under the banner of a weak hero, the right adversary can still inspire the ranks.
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It's WHO and WHAT the messiah "king" obammy has been/ and IS during HIS regime's last THREE YEARS and NOW. It's WHAT and HOW the messiah "king" obammy has DONE TO AMERICA and AMERICANS during HIS regime's last THREE YEARS, and what HE wants to DO TO US NOW. It's the messiah "king" obammy STUPID. It's OBAMA STUPID! (Admiral Yamamato knew, STUPID.)
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Nobody will rally to Mitt Romneycare, Newt or Herr Dumbass II (Rick Perry). People who are interested in stopping the runaway leviathan government will recognize Mitt, Newt and Perry as essentially clones, with NO substantive difference amongst them. If Newt, Perry or Romney is the GOP nominee, it's a default win for oBUMa, I guarantee it. The elitists are afraid of only one man: Ron Paul. Why? Because he's not someone they control, and he is the ONLY one who represents a real threat to the status quo. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who can beat oBUMa, not only because of his ideas, his integrity and his solid track-record... His message transcends political party. And THAT scares the elites more than anything else. If Newt or Mitt gets the nomination, the GOP is FINISHED.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- You miss the entire point. A HAM SANDWICH will win against the messiah "king" obammy. Even your wee fraud hero could if he comes up against the messiah "king" obammy. BUT your wee FRAUD hero will never get there, EVER. HE IS TOTALLY UNFIT. ALMOST as badly as the messiah "king" obammy is. It isn't about Rommney ot Ginrich or RonniePaulie of fu@king Goofy or whomever! IT'S about OBAMA! GET IT? IT'S ALL about OBAMA! GET it? F' Romnney, F' RonniePaulie, F' em ALL! BUT most of ALL, FU@K OBAMA! NOW!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
If Newt gets the nomination I'll probably go ahead and vote for him. If Ron Paul gets the nomination (I know you think it is impossible just use your imagination for a sec) would you vote for him or Obama?
The point is, you're shilling for four more years of whining about Obummer. Newt and Mitts are losers, deal with it. Mitt is not even eligible since his father George was Mexican born.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
. I've already said that I would vote "for" RonniePaulie over obama here on this site a couple of times before this. IF the world really was THAT insane and that was the only choice; I'd vote for a HAM SANDWICH against obama. Even if it was the wee FRAUD.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
No the point is that you are a FOOL. The POINT IS BEATING OBAMA in the coming elections, shit for brains. To SAVE THIS COUNTRY. Bleat on FOOL. Piss your vote away on RonniePaulie's current coming third partee loss. FOOL. I don't give a F' about Gingrich or Rommney you gibbering cult of personality FOOL. YOU GIBBERING LOSER FOOL.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
I can't recall everyone's position on every issue. Thanks.
Do you think Ron Paul is an honest man?
Do you have a first choice yet?
I never thought or hoped that you would. Any time.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
NO. I certainly do NOT.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Not really. I know what my "vote" is really worth.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
A HAM SANDWICH will win against the messiah "king" obammy. On both counts, you're dead wrong. I DO get the point. IF a NWO-controlled puppet gets put up as the GOP nominee, oBUMa will win. All conservatives will stay home, and only the hardcore leftists will turn out on election day. Conservatives will NEVER vote in large numbers for Newt, Romney or Rick Perry, so oBUMa will win, by default. What part of this do you NOT understand?
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- And therein lies the flaw of your thinking. Thanks for the clarification.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- So YOU say FOOL. Which means SQUAT, FOOL.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
And therein lies the flaw of your thinking. Thanks for the clarification. Such is the mewling "depth" of thought and logic exhibited by the typical cult of personalty herd dwelling PaulTard. "Impressive" eh? (BOVINE is the word that springs to mind.) LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Which means SQUAT, FOOL. You believe it's all about obama versus mitt mcnewt. It's about rooting out the elitist establishment, and returning to the Constitution. I realize that you believe that by having "your" elitist whore beat "their" elitist whore, you'll see some measurable change... But empirical analysis disproves such naïve notions. You're being played for the fool, and you're too brainwashed to see the truth. Even more pathetic, you love the chains that hang on you- good little slave that you are. Call me whatever you wish- but time will prove you to be the fool. Watch and learn, sonny.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- It's about rooting out the elitist establishment, and returning to the Constitution. I realize that you believe that by having "your" elitist whore beat "their" elitist whore, you'll see some measurable change... But empirical analysis disproves such naïve notions. You're being played for the fool, and you're too brainwashed to see the truth. Even more pathetic, you love the chains that hang on you- good little slave that you are. Call me whatever you wish- but time will prove you to be the fool. Watch and learn, sonny. Why are you such a stupid phuck? I say AGAIN, you dumb cult of personality phuck; IT'S ALL ABOUT OBAMA STUPID! I say AGAIN, you dumb cult of personality phuck; IT'S ALL ABOUT DEFEATING OBAMA! I even said that, repeatedly that baring any other choice, that I would vote for your wee hero FRAUD AGAINST OBAMA you gibbering cult of personality FOOL. The FACT is, and REMAINS that your cult of personality wee hero FRAUD is UNACCEPTABLE to the VAST majority of the AMERICAN ELECTORATE FOR VERY GOOD REASONS, (RonniePaulie is a wingnutjob). I state the F' ing TRUTH sonny BOY. The choice THIS US Federal PRESIDENTIAL election is Obama WINS and AMERICA DIES, or Obama LOSES and AMERICA LIVES. There is NOTHING on the face of THIS EARTH THAT CAN STOP ME AND ALL MY KIN FROM WORKING TO DEFEAT Obama AND SAVE AMERICA! ANYBODY BUT Obama! (BUT your cult of personality wee FRAUD will NEVER be nominated by any party with a real NATIONAL chance. F' ing SUE ME for stating the objective TRUTH little BOY.) Watch and learn little BOY.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
No. To be stupid, I'd have to buy into your simplistic, childish blame-game. Is obama part of the problem? Sure. But he's a puppet. That you blame the puppet, instead of the people that control him, is as fucking STUPID as it gets... Yeah, the Constitution is so yesterday, isn't it? Ideas like "limited government, states' rights and a government that serves the people is so obsolete... Anyone who believes that it's better to NOT be a slave of the state is such a "wingnutjob," dontcha' know...? “Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” -- Samuel Adams -- You're a bloviating gas-bag. Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player You wouldn't know the truth if it fell out of the sky, and landed on your empty little skull. You'll vote for the elitist puppet, because you're a coward. And all your bullshit words on the internet won't mean shit, because you lack the one thing that matters most; courage. You'll vote for whoever the elitists TELL you to vote for, and when the new puppet (assuming the new puppet replaces the old puppet) screws you over, you'll defend him, or make the same bullshit statements you're making here today. Oh yes, you'll be the good little slave, and lick their hands... tail tucked between your legs, pissing on yourself... to the rest of us, you'll growl and be the internet tough-guy, but in your heart, you are- and always WILL be- nothing more than a coward. Feh. Bye, bozo.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- In politics, the antagonist of voters' antagonist is their hero. Newt Gingrich leads Republicans in national polls for the same reason Mitt Romney would rally Republicans in a general election: Barack Obama.
#2. To: Mad Dog (#1)
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff? 
#3. To: Capitalist Eric (#2)
#4. To: Mad Dog (#1)
#5. To: Mad Dog, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#3)
(Edited)
You miss the entire point.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#6. To: A K A Stone (#4)
#7. To: hondo68 (#5)
#8. To: Mad Dog (#6)
I've already said that I would vote "for" RonniePaulie over obama here on this site a couple of times before this.
#9. To: Mad Dog (#7)
#10. To: Mad Dog (#7)
I don't give a F' about Gingrich or Rommney you gibbering cult of personality FOOL.
#11. To: A K A Stone (#8)
#12. To: A K A Stone (#9)
Do you think Ron Paul is an honest man?
#13. To: A K A Stone (#10)
#14. To: Mad Dog (#3)
You miss the entire point.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#15. To: Mad Dog (#12)
A K A Stone: Do you think Ron Paul is an honest man?
Mad Dog: NO.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#16. To: Capitalist Eric (#14)
On both counts, you're dead wrong.
#17. To: Capitalist Eric (#15)
A K A Stone: Do you think Ron Paul is an honest man? Mad Dog: NO.
#18. To: Mad Dog (#16)
So YOU say FOOL.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#19. To: Capitalist Eric (#18)
You believe it's all about obama versus mitt mcnewt.
#20. To: Mad Dog (#19)
I say AGAIN, you dumb cult of personality phuck; IT'S ALL ABOUT OBAMA STUPID!
The FACT is, and REMAINS that your cult of personality wee hero FRAUD is UNACCEPTABLE to the VAST majority of the AMERICAN ELECTORATE FOR VERY GOOD REASONS, (RonniePaulie is a wingnutjob).
I state the F' ing TRUTH sonny BOY.
There is NOTHING on the face of THIS EARTH THAT CAN STOP ME AND ALL MY KIN FROM WORKING TO DEFEAT Obama AND SAVE AMERICA!
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
--Shakespeare, MacBeth, Act V, Scene V (BUT your cult of personality wee FRAUD will NEVER be nominated by any party with a real NATIONAL chance. F' ing SUE ME for stating the objective TRUTH little BOY.)
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
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