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Title: Finally, A Rich American Destroys The Fiction That Rich People Create The Jobs
Source: Daily Ticker
URL Source: http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/dail ... h-people-create-152949393.html
Published: Dec 15, 2011
Author: Henry Blodget
Post Date: 2011-12-17 22:19:37 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 33085
Comments: 64

In the war of rhetoric that has developed in Washington as both sides blame each other for our economic mess, one argument has been repeated so often that many people now regard it as fact:

Rich people create the jobs.

Specifically, entrepreneurs and investors, when incented by low taxes, build companies and create millions of jobs.

And these entrepreneurs and investors, therefore, the argument goes, can solve our nation's huge unemployment problem — if only we cut taxes and regulations so they can be incented to build more companies and create more jobs.

In other words, by even considering raising taxes on "the 1%," we are considering destroying the very mechanism that makes our economy the strongest and biggest in the world: The incentive for entrepreneurs and investors to build companies in the hope of getting rich and, in the process, creating millions of jobs.

Now, there have long been many problems with this argument starting with

1. Taxes on rich people (capital gains and income) are, relative to history, low, so raising them would only begin to bring them back in line with prior prosperous periods, and

2. Dozens of rich entrepreneurs have already gone on record confirming that a modest hike in capital gains and income taxes would not have the slightest impact on their desire to create companies and jobs, given that tax rates are historically low.

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#13. To: lucysmom (#0)

Now, there have long been many problems with this argument starting with

1. Taxes on rich people (capital gains and income) are, relative to history, low, so raising them would only begin to bring them back in line with prior prosperous periods, and

2. Dozens of rich entrepreneurs have already gone on record confirming that a modest hike in capital gains and income taxes would not have the slightest impact on their desire to create companies and jobs, given that tax rates are historically low.

Sounds to me like they aren't looking at the real picture, just through political ideological rose colored glasses!!!!

So why then are very few businesses hiring people or expanding?????

A). American workers paid too much and get too many benefits???? (Even though you can get some American made products for less than foreign made products).... (So do you think they pay a form of SS, Medicare and Medicaid taxes on the foreign workers)?????

B). Businesses make more money by manufacturing overseas and hiding money there because of high tax rates here?????

C). Manufacturing products overseas because regulations are less there meaning more bottom line profits????? (I.E. Leftard Environmental wacko EPA regulations)......

D). Foreign workers are just so much better than ours, more productive???? (At least they want to work)!!!!! LOL.... (So do you think they pay a form of SS, Medicare and Medicaid taxes on the foreign workers)?????

E). ObozoCare???? (I.E. more taxes)....

F). Sitting on their money (paying less taxes) and waiting out fall of current idiotic Marxist/Democrat regime???? (just to "PROVE" to them they are full of schitt)....

G). Can't get permits from current corrupt Leftard regime without bribing them with Campaign contributions???? (Another form of taxation).....

H).Or........ Some are in bed with the Leftards because they think there is a huge payday coming for them when country is ruined????

Well??????????????????????????? Make a choice or two......

CZ82  posted on  2011-12-18   8:53:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: CZ82 (#13)

A). American workers paid too much and get too many benefits???? (Even though you can get some American made products for less than foreign made products)....

Have you suggested to your employer that he should reduce your benefits and pay for the good of the US economy?

(So do you think they pay a form of SS, Medicare and Medicaid taxes on the foreign workers)?????

China

Taxation of Employees

* An employer is obligated to deduct tax at source on a monthly basis from a salaried employee and to make additional contributions to social security.
* Social security in China consists of 3 parts, basic pension, personal accounts and additional payment.
* The rates for the basic pension are, employer - around 20%, employee - 7%.

Top tax rate for individuals is 45% for incomes over ¥100,000.

http://www.worldwide-tax.com/china/china_tax.asp

lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-18 12:54:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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C). Manufacturing products overseas because regulations are less there meaning more bottom line profits????? (I.E. Leftard Environmental wacko EPA regulations)......

By Monday evening, nearly 500 flights out of Beijing had been cancelled or delayed due to weather, according to the Beijing International Airport. Monday’s weather in Beijing was cloudy with a light snow and pollution readings described as “hazardous” by the US embassy’s pollution monitoring system.

Pollution has been a growing concern for China, which is home to 21 of the world’s 100 most polluted cities, as environmental degradation inflicts an ever higher economic and social cost. This year has been marked by a series of protests over pollution concerns, the largest of which in Dalian attracted more than 10,000 people.

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Environmentalist Ma Jun says that the public has become increasingly sceptical of the official data. “In Beijing and most other cities, the official data shows an increasing number of blue sky days. But to the ordinary people, the residents, they feel differently, because they cannot see the mountains or even the buildings during the blue sky days,” he says.

The health costs of China’s air pollution are also high. A 2007 study by the World Bank found that in China 350,000 people die prematurely each year from exposure to outdoor air pollution, with a further 300,000 premature deaths caused by indoor air pollution.

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9fb2f7...eabdc0.html#axzz1guUatMzr

Killing off your employees and customers doesn't seem like a sound business plan to me.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-18 13:10:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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G). Can't get permits from current corrupt Leftard regime without bribing them with Campaign contributions???? (Another form of taxation).....

Corruption in China

Background

China’s substantial corruption challenges are deeply rooted in cultural traditions as well as the country’s complex transitory conditions. Further, corruption is increasingly growing in significance as a political issue in China, and in an international context, China’s corruption problems have attracted extensive attention.

According to the World Bank/IFC Enterprise Survey (www.business-anti- corruption.com/normal.asp?pageid=233), companies are considering corruption to be number 6 among the top 10 major constraints for investment in China.

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