[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Freepers Still Love war

Parody ... Jump / Trump --- van Halen jump

"The Democrat Meltdown Continues"

"Yes, We Need Deportations Without Due Process"

"Trump's Tariff Play Smart, Strategic, Working"

"Leftists Make Desperate Attempt to Discredit Photo of Abrego Garcia's MS-13 Tattoos. Here Are Receipts"

"Trump Administration Freezes $2 Billion After Harvard Refuses to Meet Demands"on After Harvard Refuses to Meet Demands

"Doctors Committing Insurance Fraud to Conceal Trans Procedures, Texas Children’s Whistleblower Testifies"

"Left Using '8647' Symbol for Violence Against Trump, Musk"

KawasakiÂ’s new rideable robohorse is straight out of a sci-fi novel

"Trade should work for America, not rule it"

"The Stakes Couldn’t Be Higher in Wisconsin’s Supreme Court Race – What’s at Risk for the GOP"

"How Trump caught big-government fans in their own trap"

‘Are You Prepared for Violence?’

Greek Orthodox Archbishop gives President Trump a Cross, tells him "Make America Invincible"

"Trump signs executive order eliminating the Department of Education!!!"

"If AOC Is the Democratic Future, the Party Is Even Worse Off Than We Think"

"Ending EPA Overreach"

Closest Look Ever at How Pyramids Were Built

Moment the SpaceX crew Meets Stranded ISS Crew

The Exodus Pharaoh EXPLAINED!

Did the Israelites Really Cross the Red Sea? Stunning Evidence of the Location of Red Sea Crossing!

Are we experiencing a Triumph of Orthodoxy?

Judge Napolitano with Konstantin Malofeev (Moscow, Russia)

"Trump Administration Cancels Most USAID Programs, Folds Others into State Department"

Introducing Manus: The General AI Agent

"Chinese Spies in Our Military? Straight to Jail"

Any suggestion that the USA and NATO are "Helping" or have ever helped Ukraine needs to be shot down instantly

"Real problem with the Palestinians: Nobody wants them"

ACDC & The Rolling Stones - Rock Me Baby

Magnus Carlsen gives a London System lesson!

"The Democrats Are Suffering Through a Drought of Generational Talent"

7 Tactics Of The Enemy To Weaken Your Faith

Strange And Biblical Events Are Happening

Every year ... BusiesT casino gambling day -- in Las Vegas

Trump’s DOGE Plan Is Legally Untouchable—Elon Musk Holds the Scalpel

Palestinians: What do you think of the Trump plan for Gaza?

What Happens Inside Gaza’s Secret Tunnels? | Unpacked

Hamas Torture Bodycam Footage: "These Monsters Filmed it All" | IDF Warfighter Doron Keidar, Ep. 225

EXPOSED: The Dark Truth About the Hostages in Gaza

New Task Force Ready To Expose Dark Secrets

Egypt Amasses Forces on Israel’s Southern Border | World War 3 About to Start?

"Trump wants to dismantle the Education Department. Here’s how it would work"

test

"Federal Workers Concerned That Returning To Office Will Interfere With Them Not Working"

"Yes, the Democrats Have a Governing Problem – They Blame America First, Then Govern Accordingly"

"Trump and His New Frenemies, Abroad and at Home"

"The Left’s Sin Is of Omission and Lost Opportunity"

"How Trump’s team will break down the woke bureaucracy"

Pete Hegseth will be confirmed in a few minutes


Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

Religion
See other Religion Articles

Title: The History of Zionism & Judaism
Source: Jews Against Zionism
URL Source: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/history.cfm
Published: Dec 11, 2011
Author: "Hachoma"
Post Date: 2011-12-11 15:36:17 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 11845
Comments: 25

The Jewish people, from its inception, has been unique by its identity as a religious entity. Through the centuries its religious character had been a premise agreed upon by Jews and non-Jews alike. Our faith demands as the fundamental condition for recognition as a Jew, belief and adherence to the word of G-d, as was revealed to our forefathers on Mount Sinai. This is in itself, according to the tenets of the Jewish religion, sufficient to fulfill the definition of a Jew. Our religious and traditional history bears no aspect of racism. Hence, one of non-Jewish origin is capable of being proselytized and attaining the same status as a born Jew. Conversely, one of Jewish birth who does not recognize his being bound to the Jewish Torah, is by Jewish law a heretic, and therefore forfeits his spiritual birthrights as a Jew.

The purpose of the Jew is to bear witness to the existence of G-d, through his adherence to the Torah. The Al-mighty granted the Jews the land of Israel as the particular setting which would serve as the most conducive atmosphere to their performance of their duties to G-d.

The Jews in ancient times were banished from the land of Israel because they had failed to fulfill their obligations to the Al-mighty. Every Jew acknowledges this in his prayers (Umipnei Chatoeinu Golinu Meiartzeinu). They accepted the penalty of exile and were at that time expressed sworn by the Al-mighty not to accelerate their redemption on their own, and especially not to rebel against the nations under whose rule they were found. To the contrary, every Jew is commanded to pray for the peace and well being of the government of which he is the subject.

Through all the years of exile, pious Jews as individuals were attracted to reside in the Holy Land because of its innate holy character and the opportunity it offered for the observance of various precepts bound in the land. Jews as a whole continue to pray that the Al-mighty return his Divine presence to the Land of Israel, by the coming of the Messiah, who will build His Temple, from whence will emanate Divine Wisdom and ultimate spiritual fulfillment of the entire human race.

Through the many years that Jews resided in the Holy Land for this purpose, they enjoyed tranquil and cordial relations with the non-Jewish population there.

The Zionist movement which was formed at the latter part of the last century, sought to endow the Jews with a nationalistic character which was heretofore strange to them. It sought to deprive them of their historically religious character and offered in substitution of faith in G-d and adherence to the Torah...

Click for Full Text!

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 9.

#1. To: Not Badeye, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, mininggold, brian s, mcgowanjm (#0)

The religious Jews who by virtue of their faith, clearly contradicted Zionist nationalism, and who had lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors for generations, became unwillingly identified with the Zionist cause and their struggle with the Arabs. They requested the United Nations that Jerusalem be designated as a defacto international city. They appealed to the diplocatic corps assigned to Jerusalem -- but to no avail. They were hence confronted with the choice of either becoming a part of the Zionist State, which diametrically opposed the interests of Jews as a religion, or abandoning the land of which their forefathers were the first Jewish settlers.

ping

lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-11   15:40:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom (#1)

"The Zionist movement which was formed at the latter part of the last century, sought to endow the Jews with a nationalistic character which was heretofore strange to them. It sought to deprive them of their historically religious character and offered in substitution of faith in G-d and adherence to the Torah..."

Good piece. It explains well why Zionism and Judaism are not in any way joined at the hip. In fact, it make sense for Jews who love their religion, humanity and justice to become increasingly vocal and active in taking the concept of Zionism to task.

It makes sense for them to work for human rights, a fair justice system and representation in government for all people living in Palestine, not just Jewish Israelis.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-11   15:55:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike, lucysmom, A K A Stone (#2)

It [the article] explains well why Zionism and Judaism are not in any way joined at the hip

That isn't true at all. The entire reason why the Jews claim they are "the chosen people" is because the bloodline covenant established with Yahweh (God) and the entire idea of a Jewish nation was to ensure the bloodline exists forever as the covenant between Jews and Yahweh.

The Jews borrowed their ideas of a single God from Iranian Zoroastrian thought. They further developed rituals and traditions establishing their desert cult as a religion.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-12-11   16:22:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#5) (Edited)

The entire reason why the Jews claim they are "the chosen people" is because the bloodline covenant established with Yahweh (God) and the entire idea of a Jewish nation was to ensure the bloodline exists forever as the covenant between Jews and Yahweh.

Correct. They are a clan with a maternal-based lineage.

Judaism is NOT a religion. Jews HAVE a religion, but Judaism is NOT a religion.

If your mother was Jewish, you are Jewish, even though you may be a rabid atheist. That's the way it works.

They even call themselves "The Tribe".

Clan (Wikipedia): A clan is a group of people united by actual or perceived kinship and descent. Even if lineage details are unknown, clan members may be organized around a founding member or apical ancestor.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-12-11   16:32:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#6)

"If your mother was Jewish, you are Jewish, even though you may be a rabid atheist. That's the way it works."

In general, Orthodox Judaism considers a person born of a Jewish mother to be Jewish, even if they convert to another religion.[35] Reform Judaism views Jews who convert to another faith as non-Jews. For example "...anyone who claims that Jesus is their savior is no longer a Jew..." [Contemporary American Reform Responsa, #68].[36][37][38]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

That's the way it works if you look at the beliefs of one part of that faith and doesn't if you look at what other Jewish groups believe.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-11   16:44:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 9.

#12. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

A few points:

Very few people convert to Judaism. Most of the ones that convert, do so because of intermarriage.

Conversions to Judaism are NOT universally recognized by Jews. It depends on who does the conversation. Reformed conversions are not recognized by Conservatives or the Orthodox. Conservative conversions are not recognized by the Orthodox. But the Orthodox do recognize your Jewishness if your mother was Jewish.

Judaism is not a religion. It's a clan. A tribe. A maternally-based genetic bloodline.

Part of their survival strategy is to keep themselves a tight knit group. If they were a religion, their survival would be based on acquiring large numbers of converts. Jews don't actively seek converts like Christians or Muslims. This is why there are only 12 million Jews in the world, while there are 2 billion Christians and 1 billion Muslims.

There isn't anything quite like them anywhere else in the world.

A lot of Americans don't understand this.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-12-11 16:57:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

"...anyone who claims that Jesus is their savior is no longer a Jew..."

The Jewish religion (and there are variations of sects) could care less if any Jewish individual denounces their faith as long as they choose a monotheistic deity. The issue is their bloodline. It has nothing to do with "Faith."

And, I should correct Wiki as Orthodox Jews strongly believe in both the oral and written forms of the Torah; I think you took that Wiki passage out of proper context. I think you are referring to Reform Jews. Still, they believe in the covenant.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-12-11 17:07:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


End Trace Mode for Comment # 9.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Please report web page problems, questions and comments to webmaster@libertysflame.com