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Title: Could Ron Paul be the next president?
Source: CBS
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7391241n
Published: Dec 11, 2011
Author: CBS
Post Date: 2011-12-11 11:01:48 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 32937
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Ross Perot, Ron Paul, been there, done that.

All RP can do is guarantee Barry Obama a 2nd term.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-12-11   11:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Happy Quanzaa (#1)

You're not voting for Paul in the primaries? I think he can win. It is an uphill battle but it could happen.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   11:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Happy Quanzaa (#1)

What are your opinions on Newt and Romney and throw in Perry for the heck of it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   11:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

I was for Cain, but now that he's gone I'm w/ Newt. He has bad baggage but he did force Clinton into welfare reform, and was Speaker the last time we had a balanced budget. And I really don't give a rat's ass about his sex life, or how many wives he's had.

Perry is an open borders guy and gives in-state tuition to Illegals. Romney is a Northeast flip-flopping libtard RINO that can't be trusted.

That said, no matter who the GOP nominee is, I will support. We can't afford to let Barry put another radical on the Supreme Court, and that opportunity will happen for whoever is in the White House from '13-'17.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-12-11   11:18:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Happy Quanzaa (#4)

Perry is an open borders guy

So is Newt.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   11:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Happy Quanzaa (#4)

And I really don't give a rat's ass about his sex life, or how many wives he's had.

That isn't the only issue. But it gets down to the mans character.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   11:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)

So is Newt.

Not to the point of giving them amnesty and citizenship. And not one of the other candidates will deport a single illegal that's been here for a long time and has family here, not one. I would like to load them all up in dump trucks and take them to the border too, but that's not going to happen. No candidate has said they would do that, including Ron Paul. All they want to do is bash Newt for being honest about the reality of the situation. Talking about deportation is putting the cart before the horse anyhow. The borders need to be closed first and then we start working on which illegals ones we can get rid of, I believe Newt will do that.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-12-11   11:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Happy Quanzaa (#4)

That said, no matter who the GOP nominee is, I will support.

That is EXACTLY why we're in the shape we're in. The globalists own BOTH teams in case you haven't been paying attention. Thank Newt for this economy and the lack of jobs...he rammed NAFTA and GATT through a lame duck congress because he knew if he waited until the newly elected congressman were seated in 1994, it would NEVER have passed. Over 80% of the American people were against these "free trade" agreements at the time, and for good reason...but he couldn't have cared less...he worked with Clinton and MADE it happen. He is a TRAITOR extraordinaire! And if you think, for one second, Newt is going to put a small government, Constitutional judge on the Supreme court, you're smoking crack....THAT would be against EVERYTHING he believes in.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-12-11   11:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Happy Quanzaa (#7)

What about Newts third wave talk. That sounds like New World Order.

Newt could have stopped NAFTA but he was for it.

Newt is a globalist too. I used to really like him when he was minority whip and even when he was speaker. But sadly he turned out to be a globalist too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   11:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: freedomsnotfree (#8)

And if you think, for one second, Newt is going to put a small government, Constitutional judge on the Supreme court, you're smoking crack...

I think Newts picks to the Supreme court would be far superior to the trashy dykes Obama has appointed.

Bush sucked but his supreme court picks were good to an extent.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   11:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Happy Quanzaa (#7)

No candidate has said they would do that, including Ron Paul.

no...what Paul has said is, stop giving them freebies and they will self- deport. He is right.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-12-11   11:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)

I think Newts picks to the Supreme court would be far superior to the trashy dykes Obama has appointed

wishful thinking...but it would be totally inconsistent with who newt is. He is a big government, globalist, NWO guy that hates our Constitution and freedoms. Why do you think he would pick ANYONE other than someone that has those same beliefs?

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-12-11   11:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: freedomsnotfree (#12)

wishful thinking...but it would be totally inconsistent with who newt is. He is a big government, globalist, NWO guy that hates our Constitution and freedoms. Why do you think he would pick ANYONE other than someone that has those same beliefs?

Because the same thing could have been said about Bush. But with Bush we got supremes that are Ok. Not always right but overall ok.

Bushes supremes are to much pro police power. On the other issues they are good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   11:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: freedomsnotfree (#11)

no...what Paul has said is, stop giving them freebies and they will self- deport. He is right.

I agree with Paul on that. I think Newts position is the same.

But they wont all leave. Many of them work here and make good money. They aren't going anywhere.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   11:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: freedomsnotfree (#8)

And if you think, for one second, Newt is going to put a small government, Constitutional judge on the Supreme court, you're smoking crack

So you think any of the GOP candidate's SCOTUS appointment would just be another Kagan or Wise Latina?

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-12-11   11:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Happy Quanzaa (#15)

Both Newt and Romney also support the new bill to lock up U.S. Citizens with out due process.

If Ron Pual got the nomination. Do you think he would surely lose to the usurper Obama?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   11:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#14)

But they wont all leave. Many of them work here and make good money. They aren't going anywhere.

they'll leave if it's illegal to hire them...and it's enforced.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-12-11   11:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Happy Quanzaa (#15)

So you think any of the GOP candidate's SCOTUS appointment would just be another Kagan or Wise Latina?

absolutely...global communism is the favor of the day. Why would a big government, globalist put a Constitutional, limited government judge on the court...it's NOT what they believe in. With the exception of Paul...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-12-11   12:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: freedomsnotfree (#17)

But they wont all leave. Many of them work here and make good money. They aren't going anywhere.

they'll leave if it's illegal to hire them...and it's enforced.

I support that idea. It is a good idea. But they will never all leave voluntarily.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   12:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: freedomsnotfree (#18)

Why would a big government, globalist put a Constitutional, limited government judge on the court...it's NOT what they believe in

Was Bush a big government globalist that hated the constitution?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   12:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Both Newt and Romney also support the new bill to lock up U.S. Citizens with out due process.

...this is include anybody that doesn't agree with their form of governance...count on it.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-12-11   12:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: freedomsnotfree (#21)

...this is include anybody that doesn't agree with their form of governance...count on it.

I know. I better be more careful about what I say on here. Or I might be disappeared. When the pigs pull me over they regularly say I am a militia member already. Some asswipe city employee put that in their database because I fucked with him in court.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   12:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#20)

you mean open borders, bush, that called the Constitution just a GD piece of paper. You mean bush...the guy that lied to get us in a war with Iraq, and found GUILTY of war crimes for doing it...Yeah...bush sucked!

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-12-11   12:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#22)

When the pigs pull me over they regularly say I am a militia member already. Some asswipe city employee put that in their database because I fucked with him in court.

are you SERIOUS!!! Actually, with few exceptions, ALL citizens are members of the militia if you are between the ages of 16-65... according to the framers.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-12-11   12:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: freedomsnotfree (#23)

you mean open borders, bush, that called the Constitution just a GD piece of paper. You mean bush...the guy that lied to get us in a war with Iraq, and found GUILTY of war crimes for doing it...Yeah...bush sucked!

Are his picks to the supreme court as bad as Obamas? I say hell no.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   12:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: freedomsnotfree (#24)

are you SERIOUS!!! Actually, with few exceptions, ALL citizens are members of the militia

I understand that.

But the militia they are talking about is the one that the government calls terrorists.

A foreign guy I worked for didn't pay me all the money one time. I kept calling him once a day like you are allowed to. He put a restraining g order on me and I'm not kidding you 15 cops came out to serve it on me in several cop cars.

I have since got my revenge on the foreigner. I wont say what it was.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   12:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Both Newt and Romney also support the new bill to lock up U.S. Citizens with out due process.

If Ron Pual got the nomination. Do you think he would surely lose to the usurper Obama?

Yep, w/o question he would loose, big time. I don't care how much sense he makes, he looks and sounds like a crotchety old man on TV, & w/ 60% of the idiot electorate that right there disqualifies him.

Newt or Romney, that's the only chance you have of getting BHO out of the White House. You can try to order prime rib at McDoanald's if you want to, but you ain't going to get it because it ain't on the menu.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-12-11   12:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Happy Quanzaa (#4)

I was for Cain, but now that he's gone I'm w/ Newt.

All Newt will do is guarantee Barry a 2nd term. Conservatives and independents will not vote for Newt, just like they didn't vote for McCain.

Perry is an open borders guy and gives in-state tuition to Illegals. Romney is a Northeast flip-flopping libtard RINO that can't be trusted.

Newt is all of the above also.

We The People  posted on  2011-12-11   12:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Happy Quanzaa (#15)

So you think any of the GOP candidate's SCOTUS appointment would just be another Kagan or Wise Latina?

Harriet Miers comes to mind.

We The People  posted on  2011-12-11   12:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Was Bush a big government globalist that hated the constitution?

Harriet Miers, Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act of 2006, refusal to secure our borders, pre-emptive war, etc.

You can bet your life that he was and is.

We The People  posted on  2011-12-11   12:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#2) (Edited)

I think he can win. It is an uphill battle but it could happen.

There isn't a chance in the world that he can win. His support has hovered around 8% or 9% nationally.

Yes, he has made significant gains in Iowa, BUT Iowa's primaries are January 3rd when all of the college kids are still out on winter break. Many of them won't even be in Iowa to vote for Paul in the caucuses.

Given the GOP's rule changes this year from winner take all states to proportional representation, Paul will walk into the convention with 8% or so of the delegates. This ensures that he'll get a speaking spot. That's it.


jwpegler  posted on  2011-12-11   12:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Happy Quanzaa (#27)

Yep, w/o question he would loose, big time.

That isn't honestly knowable. People despise Obama. People who were suckers last time wont be this time. Well a lot of them wont at least.

I used to work for this one very liberal guy. He shocked me when he said this.

He said that the country was so pissed off at Bush that they went out and elected a nigger. I'd never heard him use that word ever, never could have imagined him using it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   12:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Happy Quanzaa, a k a stone, cz82 (#4)

That said, no matter who the GOP nominee is, I will support.

I will NOT support another liberal Republican like Romney.

I want clarity in the country. It if someone is going to destroy the country, it better be a liberal Democrat, and not a GOP RINO who will take free market conservatives down with him.


jwpegler  posted on  2011-12-11   12:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: We The People (#30)

Harriet Miers, Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act of 2006, refusal to secure our borders, pre-emptive war, etc.

You can bet your life that he was and is.

Ok. But his supreme court picks have been reasonable.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   12:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#26)

...sorry to hear that Stone....a man that works needs to get paid. This overwhelming force thing has gotten out of hand...and don't feel alone, I'm sure I'm on some list too because I believe in the Constitution and freedom...:?) if I'm not, I'd be disappointed.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-12-11   12:37:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#14)

But they wont all leave. Many of them work here and make good money. They aren't going anywhere.

I want the one's who are here for handouts to leave.

The ones who work hard, in jobs that American's won't take like gardening, should stay.

They should pay taxes.

They shouldn't be given citizenship and allowed to vote -- that should be their punishment for entering the country illegally.


jwpegler  posted on  2011-12-11   12:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#25)

Are his picks to the supreme court as bad as Obamas? I say hell no.

that was bush...Gingrich and Romney are different people. We need to make sure EVERYONE we vote for is a small government, Constitutional person...the president can't do it all and if we can clean out DC and put in those that ACTUALLY believe in the Constitution, things will change

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2011-12-11   12:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: jwpegler (#33) (Edited)

I will NOT support another liberal Republican like Romney.

If Willard gets the nomination, and you stay home on election day, then you will be putting at least one more radical on the Supreme Court. And then you can put a fork in us because we're done then, for sure (if we're not already).

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-12-11   12:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: freedomsnotfree (#37)

We need to make sure EVERYONE we vote for is a small government, Constitutional person

Agree 100%. I will not vote for another liberal Republican. We have no defense against liberals Republicans in office. Liberal Republican failures = Democrat Party victories.

I will never vote for Romney, just like I didn't vote for Bush I in either 88 or 92, Bush II in 04, and McCain in 08.

No way.


jwpegler  posted on  2011-12-11   12:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: freedomsnotfree (#37)

that was bush...

I don't think Newt is totally bad like Obama. I think his picks would be better then Obamas.

Here is some of what I like or respect about Newt.

Welfare reform.

His recent stance on letting kids work in their schools if they want to.

His trying to get budget cuts when Clinton was President. And heading towards or helping balance the budget.

He favors a lower tax burden the Dems do.

There is a short list.

With Obama it is nothing.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-11   12:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Happy Quanzaa (#38)

Then you will be putting at least one more radical on the Supreme Court. And then you can put a fork in us because we're done then, for sure (if we're not already).

Let me state this again. I want clarity.

I don't want Romney to destroy the country. If someone is going to destroy the country, let it be Obama.

Then we can pick up the pieces in 2016.


jwpegler  posted on  2011-12-11   12:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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