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Title: Christianity Is In the Constitution
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URL Source: http://www.apologeticspress.org/apc ... t.aspx?category=7&article=2556
Published: Dec 1, 2011
Author: Dave Miller, Ph.D.
Post Date: 2011-12-01 19:42:39 by Murron
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Views: 4268
Comments: 10
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=26256&Disp=12#C12
**rr*t M*k* to A K A Stone: "That was a excellent interpretation of the religion clause of the First Amendment. The fact you don't understand Constitutional law enough to see that is on you, not me.
The framers' point was obviously that one's sense of religion is their own to deal with; which means if someone does not want religion, it is their Constitutional right not to believe or belong to one.
The Constitution is a framework, and thus dopes not need everything covered under each part of it in excruciating detail as law codes.
The First Amendment also does not mention Christianity either, yet people like you would act like it does and claim the Constitution meant for Christianity to be the 'special' religion in this country.
You should read more on Constitutional law or take a course on it. Because I am tired of arguing in a situation where I feel I am trying to explain to a child how airplanes stay in the air."
Christianity Is In the Constitution
by Dave Miller, Ph.D.
Constitution of the United States; Original Text
Those who insist that America was not intended to be a “Christian nation” point to the obvious absence of specific directives regarding Christianity in the federal Constitution. The popular propaganda since the 1960s has been that “the irreligious Framers did not want the nation to retain any attachment to the Christian religion.” Such an assertion is a monstrous perversion of historical fact. The truth of the matter is that they were fearful of the potential interference by the federal government in its ability to place restrictions on the free exercise of the Christian religion. Consequently, they desired that the specifics of religion be left up to the discretion of the several states.
Nevertheless, we must not think for a moment that the federal Framers did not sanction the nation’s intimate affiliation with Christianity, or that they attempted to keep religion out of the Constitution. On the contrary, the Christian religion is inherently assumed and implicitly present in the Constitution. In fact, the United States Constitution contains a direct reference to Jesus Christ! Consider three proofs for these contentions (See Constitution of the United..., 1789).
If provision had been made for Muslims, the Constitution would have read “Fridays excepted.” If the Founders had intended to encourage a day of inactivity for the government without regard to any one religion, they could have chosen Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday. Instead, the federal Constitution reads “Sundays excepted”—proving conclusively that America was Christian in its orientation and that the Framers themselves shared the Christian worldview and gave political recognition to and accommodation of that fact.
Article VII, the Constitution closes with the following words:
Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth....
Did you catch it? Their work was done “in the Year of our Lord.” The Christian world dates all of human history in terms of the birth of Christ. “B.C.” means “before Christ,” and “A.D.” is the abbreviation for the Latin words “anno Domini,” meaning “year of our Lord.” If the Framers were interested in being pluralistic, multi-cultural, and politically correct, they would have refrained from using the B.C./A.D. designation. Or they would have used the religionless designations “C.E.,” Common Era, and “B.C.E.,” Before the Common Era (see “Common Era,” 2008). In so doing, they would have avoided offending Jews, atheists, agnostics, and humanists. Or they could have used “A.H.” (anno hegirae—which means “in the year of the Hijrah” and refers to Muhammad’s flight from Mecca in A.D. 622), the date used by Muslims as the commencement date for the Islamic calendar. Instead, the Framers chose to utilize the dating method that indicated the worldview they shared. What’s more, their reference to “our Lord” does not refer to a generic deity, nor does it refer even to God the Father. It refers to God the Son—an explicit reference to Jesus Christ. Make no mistake: the Constitution of the United States contains an explicit reference to Jesus Christ—not Allah, Buddha, Muhammad, nor the gods of Hindus or Native Americans!
Article 1 - Section 7
If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_item/constitution.htm
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#1. To: Murron (#0)
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My view is that both the left and right are completely out to lunch on this. The left is wrong -- most of the founders were profoundly religious people who believed in a creator that gave us natural rights that no government has the authority to take away. The right is also wrong -- many of the founders were not "traditional" Christians. Thomas Jefferson (the author of the Declaration of Independence) spent an enormous amount of time creating the Jefferson Bible -- basically the Bible without the miracles. Why would he do this? Because he believed in the morality of the Bible, not the miracles. Modern American "Conservatives" at least have some foundation in American tradition, even though they get some portions of it wrong. Modern American "leftists" don't have any footing in America's founding at all. Their lineage starts with the European Communist scum that arose decades after America was founded and started to infect America during the Regressive Era.
I don't care if this poster does a suck up thread on this topic, but because of past abuses by this person starting threads attacking me personally, I would like my name out of the header please. It is not a necessary component to this thread.
LMFAO And Alert me to Every Suck up Thread on this site. You can just treat me like LF is Fukushima and I'm a 68 Ton Corium blob at 3150 degrees C somehwere underneath.... 8D Widgeon wrote:Of course, if they are releasing data from simulations like these the question comes to mind ... why are they conducting such simulations? Lots of 'why's here Widgeon and ZERO info from our State Media. But an American has been kidnapped in Pakistan by AlZahwahiri Al-Qaida is holding 70-year-old US aid worker who was kidnapped in ... The Guardian - 12 hours ago Al-Qaida says it is holding a 70-year-old American aid worker abducted in Pakistan three months ago. Ayman al-Zawahiri, the al-Qaida leader, said in a video ... 473 related articles And note how that Fucker hasn't aged in 10 years!.... :twisted: A 68 ton blob of 3150 C (from just Reactor 1!)Corium is somewhere under Fukushima now, Tepco/Japan say they can't find the blob....that's insane.
And the Constituion Itself is by of anf for the elite. One of the Greatest Wealth Transfers in US History came on the Heals of the Revolutionary War. " My title is intended as a corrective to this widespread, indeed nearly uniform, delusion. For a brief moment -- a very brief moment -- a "revolution" might have taken place. But the wealthiest and most powerful Americans were not about to let that happen: they saw the chance to enshrine their power in a country all their own, and they took it. What killed "democracy" in America? What gave the government over to the wealthy and powerful? The Constitution. Of course. The American Change in Management (formerly known as the "American Revolution," and we should work to make that "formerly" an actuality in usage) surely ranks as one of the more effective propaganda triumphs in history. -Arthur Silber
You have no idea what you are talking about. Without the Constitution, the elites would have had control of your smelly ass long ago.
You have no idea what you are talking about. And you have no idea of how wealthy our 'Founding Fathers' were. And slaves and women and non property owners were worth how much in 1782? The Constitution created a government of, by and for the most wealthy and powerful Americans -- and it made certain (insofar as men can make such things certain) that their rule would never be seriously threatened. The most wealthy and powerful Americans were the ones who wrote it, after all. Yet all our problems would be solved if only we returned to "real" and "true" Constitutional values. I suppose it's a blessing of sorts that I enjoy comedy so much.
They were people risked EVERYTHING to revolt against the country (U.K.) that enabled them to get wealthy. They rebelled against the system in the name of liberty. You are a know-nothing leftist buffoon. I'm done with you too. BOZO.
They rebelled against the system in the name of liberty. Uhhhh.....no. Yes, the Revolution succeeded, but like ALL Revolutions was almost immediately co opted. Like how the Fuck do you think we got the French King on 'our'side? And note that Geo Washington was buying land for pennies on the $ after the War: " There is, however, another symbol of the Revolution that complicates the ending to the traditional story. And although this symbol has disappeared from cultural memory, in the years after the War for Independence, it was to many Pennsylvanians the most potent icon of the Revolution's outcomes. The image was this: the heavily loaded wagon of a county sheriff bearing the foreclosed property of debt-ridden citizens. The power of this icon came from its ubiquity. During the postwar decade, the sheriff's wagon could be seen nearly everywhere. With its load of foreclosed property, it struggled up the narrow gullied roads of the backcountry, groaned along the wide smooth lanes of the Delaware Valley, and rattled down the bumpy cobblestone streets of Philadelphia, the richest city in the new nation. As was to be expected in a largely agricultural society, the wagon made most of its stops at the homes of small farmers. Yet its flat wooden bed was just as likely to hold the confiscated tools of a blacksmith, the grindstone of a miller, or the inventory of a small merchant. Indeed, one striking comparative fact is this: there were more Pennsylvanians who had property foreclosed by county sheriffs during the postwar decades than there were Pennsylvania soldiers who fought for the Continental Army."
See Thomas Jefferson sells out the Haitians with Napolean.
I'm done with you too. BOZO. CE has said the same. Yet still keeps coming back. There seems to be no penalty for your backsliding into conversation with me again....but that's only an illusion.....8D BTW, someone can tell CE that whateverthefuck he has running on his posts is bogging my Computer down, so that I can't load and reply to hin any more until he changes it.... Thanx to ALl here at LF for your help....8D
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#3. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, All (#2)
#4. To: Murron (#0)
#5. To: mcgowanjm (#4)
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And the Constituion Itself is by of anf for the elite.
Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.
#6. To: jwpegler (#5)
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And the Constituion Itself is by of anf for the elite.
#7. To: mcgowanjm (#6)
And you have no idea of how wealthy our 'Founding Fathers' were.
Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.
#8. To: jwpegler (#7)
They were people risked EVERYTHING to revolt against the country (U.K.) that enabled them to get wealthy.
#9. To: jwpegler (#7)
#10. To: jwpegler, Capitalist Eric, All (#7)
You are a know-nothing leftist buffoon.
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