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Title: Obama lawyers: Citizens targeted if at war with US
Source: Yahoo News/AP
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/obama-lawyers ... targeted-war-us-154313473.html
Published: Dec 1, 2011
Author: MATT APUZZO
Post Date: 2011-12-01 14:02:52 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Obama-doma-ding-dong, Dear Leader
Views: 10439
Comments: 25

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. citizens are legitimate military targets when they take up arms with al-Qaida, top national security lawyers in the Obama administration said Thursday.

The lawyers were asked at a national security conference about the CIA killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen and leading al-Qaida figure. He died in a Sept. 30 U.S. drone strike in the mountains of Yemen.

The government lawyers, CIA counsel Stephen Preston and Pentagon counsel Jeh Johnson, did not directly address the al-Awlaki case. But they said U.S. citizens do not have immunity when they are at war with the United States.

Johnson said only the executive branch, not the courts, is equipped to make military battlefield targeting decisions about who qualifies as an enemy.

The courts in habeas cases, such as those involving whether a detainee should be released from the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba, make the determination of who can be considered an enemy combatant.

Late last year, a judge threw out a lawsuit filed by al-Awlaki's father, saying that the courts do not have the authority to review military decisions by the president aimed at protecting the country from terrorists. The cleric's father, Nasser al-Awlaki of Yemen, was suing to prevent the U.S. from targeting his son.

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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Your pal, GWBush set the stage for this crap with his beloved US Patriot Act. It only gets worse and worse.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-12-01   14:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#1)

Your pal, GWBush set the stage for this crap with his beloved US Patriot Act. It only gets worse and worse.

Do you think Bush actually read it. Do you think he wrote it? Was he in on it? Or was he just a dupe?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-01   22:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo (#1)

This ain't shit compared to every single American's medical record being kept in the DC database that your boy Barry is compiling for ObamaCare.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-12-02   8:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Happy Quanzaa (#3)

This ain't shit compared to every single American's medical record being kept in the DC database that your boy Barry is compiling for ObamaCare.

How do you propose medical treatments, products, drugs, hospitals, and doctors be evaluated?

The problem with the Depuy hip replacement was identified in Europe because they have a registry. We were alerted to the problem because they kept records.

Turns out the device has a failure rate of 29%; and 40,000 have been used in the US. Not only does that mean precious medical resources needlessly used to remove and replace the faulty device, but human beings undergoing the risk of surgery and and the down time of recovery.

How do human beings make good choices in the free market without good information?

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-02   9:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#1) (Edited)

Nat'l Enquirer victim awarded $2.5 million settlement in Anthrax Unsolved Case.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-02   9:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#4)

How do you propose medical treatments, products, drugs, hospitals, and doctors be evaluated?

I would propose the private doctors keep that information if the patient wants that information shared. This is an obvious constitutional violation. The document that liberals pretend to love but obviously hate. Checkmate you lose.

“ The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ”

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-02   10:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom (#4)

If the government ends child sacrifices to Satan (abortion). It would save more lives. But Hobama can't stop the sacrifices to Satan. It empowers the asshole.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-02   10:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#6)

“ The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ”

How does a medical registry violate the above?

How do you feel about your doctor sharing your medical records with your insurance provider, and your insurance provider sharing the details of your medical history with their Indian cohorts?

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-02   10:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#7)

If the government ends child sacrifices to Satan (abortion). It would save more lives. But Hobama can't stop the sacrifices to Satan. It empowers the asshole.

Ping me when you care about the lives of children after they're born.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-02   10:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#8)

How does a medical registry violate the above?

the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-02   10:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lucysmom (#9)

Ping me when you care about the lives of children after they're born.

ping

Now Ping me when you are not in favor of murdering babies in the womb.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-02   10:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)

How does a medical registry violate the above?

the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,

That answers the question "what?", I'm asking how.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-02   10:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#12)

hat answers the question "what?", I'm asking how.

Forcing people to share information about themselves would be a violation of their person and effects being illegally searched. The IRS does the same thing when they want unconstitutional information against you.

It is right in the text of the constitution. It is not complicated. Unless you have an agenda and you are a liar and spinning.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-02   10:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

Forcing people to share information about themselves would be a violation of their person and effects being illegally searched.

Usually one is given a release to sign.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-02   10:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#9)

Ping me when you care about the lives of children after they're born.

Proselytize them like you do !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-12-02   11:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#4)

How do you propose medical treatments, products, drugs, hospitals, and doctors be evaluated?

It's for the ObamaCare Death Panel to decide who lives & dies. Better hope you never smoked, are under 50, and your BMI is in the government allowed range if you want to even be allowed to get at the back of the long line for any surgery you may need to save your life one day. And if you ever had the clap, syphilis, chlamydia, AIDS, crabs &/or any of the other STDs common in the filthy fleabagging hippie community then the world is going to kinow about it after the ObamaCare database is hacked & everyone's records are WikiLeaked to the world.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-12-02   13:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Happy Quanzaa (#16)

It's for the ObamaCare Death Panel to decide who lives & dies. Better hope you never smoked, are under 50, and your BMI is in the government allowed range if you want to even be allowed to get at the back of the long line for any surgery you may need to save your life one day.

Death panels are just fine with you and your ilk as long as they're employed by insurance companies to make a profit.

...then the world is going to kinow about it after the ObamaCare database is hacked & everyone's records are WikiLeaked to the world.

Right. Everybody knows that only government computers are hacked, it never happens in the private sector.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-02   13:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Happy Quanzaa (#16)

How do you propose medical treatments, products, drugs, hospitals, and doctors be evaluated?

BTW, you didn't address my question.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-02   13:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#18) (Edited)

How do you propose medical treatments, products, drugs, hospitals, and doctors be evaluated?

BTW, you didn't address my question.

I really don't give a flying fuck what the experts in DC evaluate, they need to be removed from the process. Medical treatments, products, drugs, hospitals, and doctors are already evaluated and regulated out the ying-yang. Statists are the problem, not the solution.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-12-02   14:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Happy Quanzaa (#16)

It's for the ObamaCare Death Panel to decide who lives & dies. Better hope you never smoked, are under 50, and your BMI is in the government allowed range if you want to even be allowed to get at the back of the long line for any surgery you may need to save your life one day. And if you ever had the clap, syphilis, chlamydia, AIDS, crabs &/or any of the other STDs common in the filthy fleabagging hippie community then the world is going to kinow about it after the ObamaCare database is hacked & everyone's records are WikiLeaked to the world

It will boil down to 2 things if you want to get healthcare under Obozocare....

1). You will have to be a Democrat voter

2). You will have to be a big taxpayer

other that that and you will be schitt out of luck, especially if you are over 60!!!!

"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-12-02   18:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lucysmom, Happy Quanzaa (#18)

BTW, you didn't address my question.

Idiotic questions need no answer.

But of course, were you not an idiot, you'd already know that.

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Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?

"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-12-02   18:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#2)

He commissioned a pile of Zionist mutherfucker bastards that have dual citizenship to write the crap and submit the same to Congress.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-12-02   20:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Happy Quanzaa (#3)

FUCK YOU. I havn't voted any of these republicans-democrats for two decades. But it is a different matter with you as you suck the cock of GWBush and you enjoy him screwing you in the ass.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-12-02   20:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#23)

as you suck the cock of GWBush and you enjoy him screwing you in the ass.

Head shakes

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-03   10:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)

That poster NEVER addresses anything with objectivity; if it says anything, it is all based on pure lies, innuendo and dirt ball, political gobble-de-goop; its articles (if you can them articles) are all BS.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-12-03   11:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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