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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In U.S. Constitution See other U.S. Constitution Articles Title: Journey into a Libertarian Future: Part II – The Strategy Source: Naked Capitalism URL Source: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011 ... ii-%e2%80%93-the-strategy.html Published: Nov 30, 2011 Author: Andrew Dittmer Post Date: 2011-11-30 11:07:47 by lucysmom Keywords: None Views: 12706 Comments: 24 This is the second installment of a six-part interview. For the previous part, see here. Red indicates exact quotes from Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s 2001 book “Democracy: The God That Failed.” ANDREW: Do other libertarians agree with your idea of a libertarian society? CODE NAME CAIN: Well, we do have our differences. For example, the Cato Institute is severely compromised by numerous left-leaning libertarians such as David Boaz. The Cato tag-alongs and certain other prominent libertarians imagine that an extremely small government would be better than no government at all. They are, of course, wrong. They have not yet recognized that every government is destructive of what they want to preserve [235-236]. Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 19. #1. To: Not Badeye, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, mininggold, brian s, Capitalist Eric, mcgowanjm (#0) ...But third, you have to reckon with the Human Shield Effect. ANDREW: The what? CNC: Libertarian Bryan Caplan says that “hard-core libertarians’ comparative advantage is to play watchdog for moderate libertarians – and make them seem reasonable by comparison.” You see, on many areas other libertarians secretly agree with us, but they are afraid to acknowledge it openly. Instead, they prefer to let us take the heat for our principled positions, and to wait for us to turn previously “radical” ideas into common sense. ANDREW: So you can count on at least some support from other libertarians. But in order to make your revolution happen, you will have to convince other people as well. Are you going to try to get a majority of U.S. voters to support the future libertarian society? CNC: It won’t work – persuade a majority of the public to vote for the abolition of democracy and an end to all taxes and legislation? Perhaps one of you good patriotic American Libertarians would explain to me how destroying the government outlined in the Constitution by the founding fathers is Constitutional. lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-30   11:16:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: lucysmom (#1) Perhaps one of you good patriotic American Libertarians would explain to me how destroying the government outlined in the Constitution by the founding fathers is Constitutional. I'm not a libertarian. But how is this destroying the constitution? A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-30   12:01:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: A K A Stone (#4) But how is this destroying the constitution? How is it not? lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-30   12:06:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: lucysmom (#5) How is it not? The interstate commerce clause's misintepretation is what is destroying us. One of many things. Your article makes no sense. I don't see any points it makes. Help me out and spoon feed it to me mama. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-30   12:10:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: A K A Stone (#6) Your article makes no sense. Sure it does. It's a disinfo piece, designed to make any libertarian seem both elitist and hopelessly insane. Notice the selected quotes and misrepresentations, which are judiciously applied to anyone who has even somewhat anti big-government thoughts...? And to top it all off, no names, no solid facts, nothing that can actually be verified. Ain't big-government propaganda grand? Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-11-30   19:00:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Capitalist Eric (#14) It's a disinfo piece, designed to make any libertarian seem both elitist and hopelessly insane. From Capitalist Eric to me: You only think you think. A typical mistake of the sheeple. I'd say you need no help in the sounding elitist department. Here is a quote from a libertarian who thinks libertarians have a problem with elitism within their ranks. Libertarians stand at a crossroads concerning "the common man" (whoever he may be). Sadly, many libertarians view themselves on a higher plane of thinking, which, whether this is true, alienates individuals who have not been properly introduced to the concept of true individual liberty. With all due deference to my fellow Capital bloggers, starting off your blog with "People are stupid" is a bad idea and an elitist (yet strangely common) attitude. (doesn't that bit I've bolded kind of sound like you) libertariansteve.blogspot...em-with-libertarians.html lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-30   21:16:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: lucysmom (#16) From Capitalist Eric to me: You only think you think. A typical mistake of the sheeple. I'd say you need no help in the sounding elitist department. Denial; another typical sheeple trait. I paraphrased someone you might have heard of... "Five percent of the people think; 10 percent of the people think they think; and the other 85 percent would rather die than think." -- Thomas Edison -- Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-12-01   11:53:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 19. #21. To: Capitalist Eric (#19) Denial; another typical sheeple trait. Are you denying your elitist bent? Ever since man developed his brain and the capacity to think, he's carefully avoided the painful process. Childe lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-01 12:01:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 19. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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