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#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)

Unbelievable isn't it. Just recently the libs tried to take free speech away. The supremes slapped them down though.

You mean that system of corporate bribery masking as individual rights that was created out of whole cloth, a few years ago?

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-24   12:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Thunderbird (#30)

Lol. I'd need a microscope to find your manparts Freddie..you're strictly a receiver.

Freddies get a boob job for more oral sucking sex !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-11-24   12:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: BorisY, Thunderbird (#41)

Lol. I'd need a microscope to find your manparts Freddie..you're strictly a receiver.

Freddies get a boob job for more oral sucking sex !

Careful guys, your obsession is showing.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   13:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#39)

Why do you want to change your screen name to your real name?

Too many posters on your forum have wished me death.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   13:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom, BorisY (#43)

Too many posters on your forum have wished me death.

I remember when Boris's grandaughter died a few years ago and she said that there were so many posters on LP who deserved to die first.

But then she's a member of that elitist tribe of chosen people, who evidently felt she was being unfairly singled out by God.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-24   13:16:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: mininggold (#44)

I remember when Boris's grandaughter died a few years ago and she said that there were so many posters on LP who deserved to die first.

It must be beyond heartbreaking to lose a grandchild, however, I can't imagine how spreading the grief around does good for anyone.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   13:31:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: lucysmom (#45)

Maybe I told you because her name was Lucy !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-11-24   14:00:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: lucysmom (#45)

It must be beyond heartbreaking to lose a grandchild, however, I can't imagine how spreading the grief around does good for anyone.

I agree.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-24   14:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mininggold (#40)

You mean that system of corporate bribery masking as individual rights that was created out of whole cloth, a few years ago?

No. I am talking about the first amendment. Where congress is prohibited from making any law the restricts free speech. A constitutionalist you are not. Keep spinning all you like. Real Americans know what free speech is.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   14:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: lucysmom (#43)

Too many posters on your forum have wished me death.

So you agree with me.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   14:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: lucysmom, mininggold, BorisY, A K A Stone, ALL (#45)

lucysmom: "I remember when Boris's grandaughter died a few years ago and she said that there were so many posters on LP who deserved to die first. But then she's a member of that elitist tribe of chosen people, who evidently felt she was being unfairly singled out by God."

mininggold: "It must be beyond heartbreaking to lose a grandchild, however, I can't imagine how spreading the grief around does good for anyone."

I'm sorry to hear about your g-daughter Boris, you have my heartfelt sympathy. I have 4 g-children of my own and could not imagine my grief if we were to lose one.

You two shameless SKANKS never seem to amaze me with your ignorance, your stupidity, your cold hearted insensitivity, I would have thought by now the two of you could not stoop any lower, I was wrong.

This man's g-child, if guilty of anything, like all of us, her offences during her lifetime will carry their own punishment and it will be God Himself who passes judgement upon her, not two faceless internet whores with an axe to grind. The two of you really should worry more about the heaps of hot coals that will be poured down upon you for this attack you waged upon this mans dead grandaughter, and his grieving heart. JMHO!

"OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."

Murron  posted on  2011-11-24   16:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone (#48)

No. I am talking about the first amendment. Where congress is prohibited from making any law the restricts free speech. A constitutionalist you are not. Keep spinning all you like. Real Americans know what free speech is.

Free speech rights are for human beings. A corporation is a entity brought into being by contract, not birth.

Although corporations were not mentioned once in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, Thomas Jefferson famously noted that representative government’s purpose was “to curb the excesses of the monied interests.” Had the Founders realized how powerful corporations would become, likely they would have created checks on their power.

Post-Revolution America developed largely along the ideals of Jefferson’s yeoman farmer, with American industrialism lagging behind its European counterparts. Corporations remained small institutions, chartered at the state level for specific purposes, such as banking or seafaring. Corporations could only exist for a limited time, could not make any political contributions, and could not own stock in other companies. Their owners were responsible for criminal acts committed by the corporation and the doctrine of limited liability (shielding investors from responsibility for harm and loss caused by the corporation) did not yet exist. Often corporate charters went to the wealthy or well-connected. But these small corporations did move America into the industrial era, encouraging entrepeneurism on a grander scale. Governments kept a close watch on how these corporations were being run, regularly revoking charters if corporations were not serving the public interest. For example, in 1832, President Andrew Jackson refused to extend the charter of the Second Bank of the United States and the State of Pennsylvania revoked 10 banks’ charters.

Clearly the founding fathers had no intention of conferring personhood on corporations.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   16:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#49)

So you agree with me.

No.

A corporation is not a human being.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   16:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Murron (#50)

You two shameless SKANKS never seem to amaze me with your ignorance, your stupidity, your cold hearted insensitivity, I would have thought by now the two of you could not stoop any lower, I was wrong.

We can always count on you for a nasty response.

The two of you really should worry more about the heaps of hot coals that will be poured down upon you for this attack you waged upon this mans dead grandaughter, and his grieving heart. JMHO!

No one is attacking his/her granddaughter, or his/her grieving heart.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   16:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: lucysmom (#51)

Free speech rights are for human beings. A corporation is a entity brought into being by contract, not birth.

Show me where free speech is limited. Corporations can't speak. They don't have a mouth. Any person with a mouth can speak any time they fucking want to. If speaking for a group. A corporation. For themselves. Or whatever other reason.

Show me restritions on "corporations" having a right to hire people to speak for them.

The law clearly says congress can make NO FUCKING LAW. Do you have problems understanding the English language? Don't answer it was rhetorical. You either can't understand the English language or you lie about the meaning of words. There are NO OTHER CHOICES!

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   16:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: lucysmom (#52)

So you agree with me.

No.

So lead by example and change your screen name to your real name. Otherwise you are just a ranting lunatic liar.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   16:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: lucysmom (#52)

A corporation is not a human being.

The people who work for them are though. And they can say whaever the fuck they want.

Occupy wallstreet isn't a person either. So should they shut the fuck up? Hmm hypocrite?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   16:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#54)

The law clearly says congress can make NO FUCKING LAW. Do you have problems understanding the English language?

You do know that the Constitution does give Congress the power to make laws - right?

In the founding father's day, corporations were not permitted to make political contributions. period!

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. -Thomas Jefferson

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   16:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: lucysmom (#57)

You do know that the Constitution does give Congress the power to make laws - right?

Not limiting free speech in any way shape form or fashion.

That is why it says congress shall make NO LAW...

They can amend the constitution if they want to take away free speech.

But if they do that I turn off my TV and start hunting people.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   16:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: lucysmom (#57)

In the founding father's day, corporations were not permitted to make political contributions. period!

Bullshit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   16:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: A K A Stone (#56)

The people who work for them are though. And they can say whaever the fuck they want.

Then let them, the people, put their personal money on the line.

Occupy wallstreet isn't a person either. So should they shut the fuck up? Hmm hypocrite?

Individuals in the movement speak for themselves, not OWS as a whole; that's been one of the criticisms of the movement - no leader, and no single message - haven't you been paying attention.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   16:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: A K A Stone (#59)

Bullshit.

Example?

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   16:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: lucysmom (#60)

Individuals in the movement speak for themselves, not OWS as a whole;

They have a website. So it should be shut down right? They are accepting donations. They should shut up already right?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   16:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#58)

Not limiting free speech in any way shape form or fashion.

Then why can't my dog bark her head off all day long without legal consequence?

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   16:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#62)

They are accepting donations. They should shut up already right?

Accepting donations is not the same thing as making donations.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   16:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: lucysmom (#61)

Bullshit.

Example?

“ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The constitution is clear. That law would be unconstitutional like any other law that limits free speech.

There was no law claiming what you claim. If there was you could cite it. You can't. It doesn't exist. Checkmate.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   16:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: lucysmom (#63)

Then why can't my dog bark her head off all day long without legal consequence?

Because it isn't speech.

It isn't free expression it is free speech.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   16:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: lucysmom (#64)

"Accepting donations is not the same thing as making donations."

So sad the obvious obviously needs to be explained here. You are exactly right.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-24   16:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: lucysmom (#64)

Those are bribes.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   16:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: A K A Stone (#66)

You mean, nonhuman speak does not count in your eyes.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-24   16:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone (#68) (Edited)

The only donations ever given with pure intentions are those that are completely anonymous where not even those recieving it know it's origin.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-24   17:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Ferret Mike, Lucysmom (#69)

You mean, nonhuman speak does not count in your eyes.

Did your turkey have due process before it was executed? Animals have no rights.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   17:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#71)

I merely noted that the dog who barks is expressing an opinion and or emotion, thus is indeed communication. Nothing more.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-24   17:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#71)

Animals have no rights.

My dog takes exception to that. She's making a donation to PETA in your name right now.

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   17:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: lucysmom (#73)

All life has rights. Period.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-24   17:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: A K A Stone (#71)

Did your turkey have due process before it was executed? Animals have no rights.

Really? Where does it say that in the Constitution?

What happened to "Congress shall make no law...yada, yada, yada?

Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-24   17:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: A K A Stone (#48)

No. I am talking about the first amendment. Where congress is prohibited from making any law the restricts free speech. A constitutionalist you are not. Keep spinning all you like. Real Americans know what free speech is

Too bad the members of the original Tea Party, AKA the original Real Americans, by their actions didn't agree with your assessment.,

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-24   19:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mininggold (#76)

Too bad the members of the original Tea Party, AKA the original Real Americans, by their actions didn't agree with your assessment.,

Yes they agreed with you so much they forbid congress from making any law that limited free speech. Why are you libs so uptight if someone with more money then you says something? And who the fuck is anyone to tell anyone what they can or can't say constitution or no constitution?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   21:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: A K A Stone (#55)

So lead by example and change your screen name to your real name. Otherwise you are just a ranting lunatic liar.

Take your meds, a-hole.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-11-24   21:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Fred Mertz, Lucysmom (#78)

Do you think people have the right to know who is speaking?

LM is the one who hinted that we should have a right to know who speaks. If she thinks that she should lead by example. Otherwise it is no more valuable then a fart. You know talking out ones ass.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-24   21:12:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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