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Title: UC Davis Pepper Spray Incident, Four Perspectives
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Published: Nov 23, 2011
Author: waxpancake
Post Date: 2011-11-23 01:15:52 by A K A Stone
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#35. To: war, Thunderbird. mininggold (#33)
Happy Thanksgiving. I'm going to have to side with the house liberals on this one. If we want free speech they have to have it too. They weren't violent. They were sitting peacefully in this one instance. If they can get pepper sprayed. Then using Thunderbirds logic then you can also spray people who stop walking on a sidewalk. You can spray people leaving or going to a concert or a fair. It wasn't right what the pigs did.
The peeps have their bodies which they've been willing to put on the line in the form of demonstrations for the purpose of getting the ear of politicians, the media, and regular folks. This is also free speech. In it's new contemporary form, 'Free speech' only has value if it is followed with a bribe or a reciprocal action of some sort for the purpose of doing business. It has become just another traded commodity, like most of our other 'rights' guaranteed by the constitution.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Unbelievable isn't it. Just recently the libs tried to take free speech away. The supremes slapped them down though.
Do you think people have the right to know who is speaking? That got slapped down too.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
No. Why do you want to change your screen name to your real name?
You mean that system of corporate bribery masking as individual rights that was created out of whole cloth, a few years ago?
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Freddies get a boob job for more oral sucking sex !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !
Freddies get a boob job for more oral sucking sex ! Careful guys, your obsession is showing.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Too many posters on your forum have wished me death.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
I remember when Boris's grandaughter died a few years ago and she said that there were so many posters on LP who deserved to die first. But then she's a member of that elitist tribe of chosen people, who evidently felt she was being unfairly singled out by God.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
It must be beyond heartbreaking to lose a grandchild, however, I can't imagine how spreading the grief around does good for anyone.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Maybe I told you because her name was Lucy !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !
I agree.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
No. I am talking about the first amendment. Where congress is prohibited from making any law the restricts free speech. A constitutionalist you are not. Keep spinning all you like. Real Americans know what free speech is.
So you agree with me.
mininggold: "It must be beyond heartbreaking to lose a grandchild, however, I can't imagine how spreading the grief around does good for anyone." I'm sorry to hear about your g-daughter Boris, you have my heartfelt sympathy. I have 4 g-children of my own and could not imagine my grief if we were to lose one. You two shameless SKANKS never seem to amaze me with your ignorance, your stupidity, your cold hearted insensitivity, I would have thought by now the two of you could not stoop any lower, I was wrong. This man's g-child, if guilty of anything, like all of us, her offences during her lifetime will carry their own punishment and it will be God Himself who passes judgement upon her, not two faceless internet whores with an axe to grind. The two of you really should worry more about the heaps of hot coals that will be poured down upon you for this attack you waged upon this mans dead grandaughter, and his grieving heart. JMHO!
"OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."
Free speech rights are for human beings. A corporation is a entity brought into being by contract, not birth. Although corporations were not mentioned once in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, Thomas Jefferson famously noted that representative government’s purpose was “to curb the excesses of the monied interests.” Had the Founders realized how powerful corporations would become, likely they would have created checks on their power. Post-Revolution America developed largely along the ideals of Jefferson’s yeoman farmer, with American industrialism lagging behind its European counterparts. Corporations remained small institutions, chartered at the state level for specific purposes, such as banking or seafaring. Corporations could only exist for a limited time, could not make any political contributions, and could not own stock in other companies. Their owners were responsible for criminal acts committed by the corporation and the doctrine of limited liability (shielding investors from responsibility for harm and loss caused by the corporation) did not yet exist. Often corporate charters went to the wealthy or well-connected. But these small corporations did move America into the industrial era, encouraging entrepeneurism on a grander scale. Governments kept a close watch on how these corporations were being run, regularly revoking charters if corporations were not serving the public interest. For example, in 1832, President Andrew Jackson refused to extend the charter of the Second Bank of the United States and the State of Pennsylvania revoked 10 banks’ charters. Clearly the founding fathers had no intention of conferring personhood on corporations.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
No. A corporation is not a human being.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
We can always count on you for a nasty response. The two of you really should worry more about the heaps of hot coals that will be poured down upon you for this attack you waged upon this mans dead grandaughter, and his grieving heart. JMHO! No one is attacking his/her granddaughter, or his/her grieving heart.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Show me where free speech is limited. Corporations can't speak. They don't have a mouth. Any person with a mouth can speak any time they fucking want to. If speaking for a group. A corporation. For themselves. Or whatever other reason. Show me restritions on "corporations" having a right to hire people to speak for them. The law clearly says congress can make NO FUCKING LAW. Do you have problems understanding the English language? Don't answer it was rhetorical. You either can't understand the English language or you lie about the meaning of words. There are NO OTHER CHOICES!
No. So lead by example and change your screen name to your real name. Otherwise you are just a ranting lunatic liar.
The people who work for them are though. And they can say whaever the fuck they want. Occupy wallstreet isn't a person either. So should they shut the fuck up? Hmm hypocrite?
You do know that the Constitution does give Congress the power to make laws - right? In the founding father's day, corporations were not permitted to make political contributions. period! I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. -Thomas Jefferson
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Not limiting free speech in any way shape form or fashion. That is why it says congress shall make NO LAW... They can amend the constitution if they want to take away free speech. But if they do that I turn off my TV and start hunting people.
Bullshit.
Then let them, the people, put their personal money on the line. Occupy wallstreet isn't a person either. So should they shut the fuck up? Hmm hypocrite? Individuals in the movement speak for themselves, not OWS as a whole; that's been one of the criticisms of the movement - no leader, and no single message - haven't you been paying attention.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Example?
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
They have a website. So it should be shut down right? They are accepting donations. They should shut up already right?
Then why can't my dog bark her head off all day long without legal consequence?
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Accepting donations is not the same thing as making donations.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Example? “ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The constitution is clear. That law would be unconstitutional like any other law that limits free speech. There was no law claiming what you claim. If there was you could cite it. You can't. It doesn't exist. Checkmate.
Because it isn't speech. It isn't free expression it is free speech.
So sad the obvious obviously needs to be explained here. You are exactly right.
Those are bribes.
You mean, nonhuman speak does not count in your eyes.
The only donations ever given with pure intentions are those that are completely anonymous where not even those recieving it know it's origin.
Did your turkey have due process before it was executed? Animals have no rights.
I merely noted that the dog who barks is expressing an opinion and or emotion, thus is indeed communication. Nothing more.
My dog takes exception to that. She's making a donation to PETA in your name right now.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
All life has rights. Period.
Really? Where does it say that in the Constitution? What happened to "Congress shall make no law...yada, yada, yada?
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
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#36. To: lucysmom (#34)
Corporations can and do spend big money on lobbyists to get the ear of politicians. They also have money to buy media space to promote their agenda with the peeps, and money to fund think tanks such as The Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, Family Research Council - etc. to refine their message. We call that free speech.
#37. To: mininggold (#36)
It has become just another traded commodity, like most of our other 'rights' guaranteed by the
#38. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Unbelievable isn't it. Just recently the libs tried to take free speech away. The supremes slapped them down though.
#39. To: lucysmom (#38)
Do you think people have the right to know who is speaking?
#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Unbelievable isn't it. Just recently the libs tried to take free speech away. The supremes slapped them down though.
#41. To: Thunderbird (#30)
Lol. I'd need a microscope to find your manparts Freddie..you're strictly a receiver.
#42. To: BorisY, Thunderbird (#41)
Lol. I'd need a microscope to find your manparts Freddie..you're strictly a receiver.
#43. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Why do you want to change your screen name to your real name?
#44. To: lucysmom, BorisY (#43)
Too many posters on your forum have wished me death.
#45. To: mininggold (#44)
I remember when Boris's grandaughter died a few years ago and she said that there were so many posters on LP who deserved to die first.
#46. To: lucysmom (#45)
#47. To: lucysmom (#45)
It must be beyond heartbreaking to lose a grandchild, however, I can't imagine how spreading the grief around does good for anyone.
#48. To: mininggold (#40)
You mean that system of corporate bribery masking as individual rights that was created out of whole cloth, a few years ago?
#49. To: lucysmom (#43)
Too many posters on your forum have wished me death.
#50. To: lucysmom, mininggold, BorisY, A K A Stone, ALL (#45)
lucysmom: "I remember when Boris's grandaughter died a few years ago and she said that there were so many posters on LP who deserved to die first. But then she's a member of that elitist tribe of chosen people, who evidently felt she was being unfairly singled out by God."
#51. To: A K A Stone (#48)
No. I am talking about the first amendment. Where congress is prohibited from making any law the restricts free speech. A constitutionalist you are not. Keep spinning all you like. Real Americans know what free speech is.
#52. To: A K A Stone (#49)
So you agree with me.
#53. To: Murron (#50)
You two shameless SKANKS never seem to amaze me with your ignorance, your stupidity, your cold hearted insensitivity, I would have thought by now the two of you could not stoop any lower, I was wrong.
#54. To: lucysmom (#51)
Free speech rights are for human beings. A corporation is a entity brought into being by contract, not birth.
#55. To: lucysmom (#52)
So you agree with me.
#56. To: lucysmom (#52)
A corporation is not a human being.
#57. To: A K A Stone (#54)
The law clearly says congress can make NO FUCKING LAW. Do you have problems understanding the English language?
#58. To: lucysmom (#57)
You do know that the Constitution does give Congress the power to make laws - right?
#59. To: lucysmom (#57)
In the founding father's day, corporations were not permitted to make political contributions. period!
#60. To: A K A Stone (#56)
The people who work for them are though. And they can say whaever the fuck they want.
#61. To: A K A Stone (#59)
Bullshit.
#62. To: lucysmom (#60)
Individuals in the movement speak for themselves, not OWS as a whole;
#63. To: A K A Stone (#58)
Not limiting free speech in any way shape form or fashion.
#64. To: A K A Stone (#62)
They are accepting donations. They should shut up already right?
#65. To: lucysmom (#61)
Bullshit.
#66. To: lucysmom (#63)
Then why can't my dog bark her head off all day long without legal consequence?
#67. To: lucysmom (#64)
"Accepting donations is not the same thing as making donations."
#68. To: lucysmom (#64)
#69. To: A K A Stone (#66)
#70. To: A K A Stone (#68)
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#71. To: Ferret Mike, Lucysmom (#69)
You mean, nonhuman speak does not count in your eyes.
#72. To: A K A Stone (#71)
#73. To: A K A Stone (#71)
Animals have no rights.
#74. To: lucysmom (#73)
#75. To: A K A Stone (#71)
Did your turkey have due process before it was executed? Animals have no rights.
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