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Title: UC Davis Pepper Spray Incident, Four Perspectives
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Published: Nov 23, 2011
Author: waxpancake
Post Date: 2011-11-23 01:15:52 by A K A Stone
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#1. To: Thunderbird (#0)

How dare anyone sit on the sidewalk in America. Where do people get to thinking that they have the right to assemble like that? What? Its in the Constitution? Never mind. whataburger300 35 minutes ago

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-23   1:17:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#1)

How dare anyone sit on the sidewalk in America.

Sidewalk huh? I guess that explains the police cruiser that drove through after removing the 'protesters'. And whats up with the guy saying 'thats fine' after being informed the police would be using pepper spray to remove them?

Thanks for the laugh Stone.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-11-23   8:53:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Thunderbird (#4)

That is a walking path. The pigs were standing in the road too. Where are the cars?

They are blocking the road far less then after a sporting event or concert. Should I expect to get pepper sprayed after attending the next AC/DC concert?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-23   11:08:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#6)

That is a walking path. The pigs were standing in the road too. Where are the cars?

You'll see the police car about ten yards back starting at the 8 second mark.

UC Davis campus police were given an order to take down an encampment and in the process they were obstructed by a number of protesters. The police did a great job balancing the need to maintain order with the 'students' right to protest. Its only because of a biased media, and a pusillanimous school chancelor that this story has any legs.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-11-23   13:31:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Thunderbird (#10)

Also just because a cop car is there doesn't mean it is a public road. I've seen cop cars in the grass before. It wasn't a road.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-23   16:13:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

The kids sat down in the road to block the police from doing their job, they were told what the consequences would be if they didn't move, they were even given time to prepare themselves, before they were sprayed. Pepper spray causes temporary discomfort and is quite effective at breaking down passive resistance to lawful orders. This might as well have been a text book example of how to apply minimal force to remove obstructors.

-btw I am amused by all the media reports that the police were 'caught' doing this, considering how every one there was recording the event.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-11-23   17:22:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Thunderbird (#14)

The kids sat down in the road to block the police from doing their job, they were told what the consequences would be if they didn't move, they were even given time to prepare themselves, before they were sprayed. Pepper spray causes temporary discomfort and is quite effective at breaking down passive resistance to lawful orders. This might as well have been a text book example of how to apply minimal force to remove obstructors.

The constitution trumps any and all laws to the contrary. They were peacefully protesting. On a walkway paid for with tax dollars.

Most cops suck.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-23   17:24:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)

If you watch the video the police do not go after anyone that isn't blocking their egress. The Constitution doesn't give you the right to obstruct anyone..something these punks learned the hard way.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-11-23   17:31:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Thunderbird (#16) (Edited)

If you watch the video the police do not go after anyone that isn't blocking their egress. The Constitution doesn't give you the right to obstruct anyone..something these punks learned the hard way.

Not true. They sprayed several people sitting in the grass.

These were peaceful protesters not harming anyone. Look at all the open area. They weren't blocking anything.

Show me the road they were blocking.

maps.google.com/maps/ms?t...579.000454fc1db364844f84f

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-23   17:37:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Not true. They sprayed several people sitting in the grass.

Those people sitting on the grass who were sprayed had locked arms with the people sitting in the road. They were sprayed so the officers could safely remove the obstructive protesters from the road and allow their patrol car to leave.

Any objective observer can see the police were not spraying people indiscriminately, in fact in a number of instances they let sprayed protesters alone once they were no longer in their way.

Furthermore, by announcing well ahead of time that they were going to employ pepper spray, to the point of even getting a go ahead from one of the protest leaders, anyone who suffered the inhalation of spray did so of their own volition.

Stone, you do realize the purpose of the 'sit down' was to prevent the police from leaving don't you?

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-11-23   20:32:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Thunderbird (#21)

Turdbird, you apparently create your own reality.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-11-23   21:00:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#26)

Chug another beer Freddie..so you'll feel like a man.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-11-23   21:08:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Thunderbird (#28)

Chug this, tea bagger - and don't bruise your chin.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-11-23   21:14:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

Lol. I'd need a microscope to find your manparts Freddie..you're strictly a receiver.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-11-23   21:18:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Thunderbird (#30)

Lol. I'd need a microscope to find your manparts Freddie..you're strictly a receiver.

And so called conservatives will always eventually get to their REAL topic of interest.

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-23   23:06:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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