Title: UC Davis Pepper Spray Incident, Four Perspectives Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Nov 23, 2011 Author:waxpancake Post Date:2011-11-23 01:15:52 by A K A Stone Keywords:None Views:56030 Comments:79
That is a walking path. The pigs were standing in the road too. Where are the cars?
You'll see the police car about ten yards back starting at the 8 second mark.
UC Davis campus police were given an order to take down an encampment and in the process they were obstructed by a number of protesters. The police did a great job balancing the need to maintain order with the 'students' right to protest. Its only because of a biased media, and a pusillanimous school chancelor that this story has any legs.
That is not a road. It is a walking path as far as I can tell. The cop car takes up over half of the road.
When a lot of people are protesting it is going to block some people. So what.
If they people were attacking someone. Or damaging someones property. They might have a cause. But sitting there with locked arms is a peaceful protest.
The kids sat down in the road to block the police from doing their job, they were told what the consequences would be if they didn't move, they were even given time to prepare themselves, before they were sprayed. Pepper spray causes temporary discomfort and is quite effective at breaking down passive resistance to lawful orders. This might as well have been a text book example of how to apply minimal force to remove obstructors.
-btw I am amused by all the media reports that the police were 'caught' doing this, considering how every one there was recording the event.
The kids sat down in the road to block the police from doing their job, they were told what the consequences would be if they didn't move, they were even given time to prepare themselves, before they were sprayed. Pepper spray causes temporary discomfort and is quite effective at breaking down passive resistance to lawful orders. This might as well have been a text book example of how to apply minimal force to remove obstructors.
The constitution trumps any and all laws to the contrary. They were peacefully protesting. On a walkway paid for with tax dollars.
If you watch the video the police do not go after anyone that isn't blocking their egress. The Constitution doesn't give you the right to obstruct anyone..something these punks learned the hard way.
If you watch the video the police do not go after anyone that isn't blocking their egress. The Constitution doesn't give you the right to obstruct anyone..something these punks learned the hard way.
Not true. They sprayed several people sitting in the grass.
These were peaceful protesters not harming anyone. Look at all the open area. They weren't blocking anything.
It was a sidewalk they were sitting on. If they were in the grass you folks would be saying they weren't allowed to be in the grass because they would kill it.
Cops who stand around watching these heinous crimes and do nothing, warrant no special badges either. Their 'blue line of silence' is a piss poor excuse for their own cowardice! jmho~
"OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."
Not true. They sprayed several people sitting in the grass.
Those people sitting on the grass who were sprayed had locked arms with the people sitting in the road. They were sprayed so the officers could safely remove the obstructive protesters from the road and allow their patrol car to leave.
Any objective observer can see the police were not spraying people indiscriminately, in fact in a number of instances they let sprayed protesters alone once they were no longer in their way.
Furthermore, by announcing well ahead of time that they were going to employ pepper spray, to the point of even getting a go ahead from one of the protest leaders, anyone who suffered the inhalation of spray did so of their own volition.
Stone, you do realize the purpose of the 'sit down' was to prevent the police from leaving don't you?
Lol. I'd need a microscope to find your manparts Freddie..you're strictly a receiver.
And so called conservatives will always eventually get to their REAL topic of interest.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
They were blocking the egress of a campus patrol car..its on the video I posted.
-btw Sproul Plaza is about 100 miles from this event.
Right. sorry. It's UC Davis.
They were on the one side of Mrack Hall that that has a double walkway. ON the other side of Mrack there is a circle but they were not at the circle which is a green surrounded by a very wide - four lanes - street and also buildings - Mrack and I believe the law library. If you look at the video when the Chancellor leaves her office, she is walking on the same walkway her car as the walkway extends to the parking lot on the side of the building.
Happy Thanksgiving...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
The goal of the Occupy Davis protest was to spark a confrontation with police.
Corporations can and do spend big money on lobbyists to get the ear of politicians. They also have money to buy media space to promote their agenda with the peeps, and money to fund think tanks such as The Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, Family Research Council - etc. to refine their message. We call that free speech.
The peeps have their bodies which they've been willing to put on the line in the form of demonstrations for the purpose of getting the ear of politicians, the media, and regular folks. This is also free speech.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Happy Thanksgiving. I'm going to have to side with the house liberals on this one.
If we want free speech they have to have it too. They weren't violent. They were sitting peacefully in this one instance.
If they can get pepper sprayed. Then using Thunderbirds logic then you can also spray people who stop walking on a sidewalk. You can spray people leaving or going to a concert or a fair. It wasn't right what the pigs did.
Corporations can and do spend big money on lobbyists to get the ear of politicians. They also have money to buy media space to promote their agenda with the peeps, and money to fund think tanks such as The Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, Family Research Council - etc. to refine their message. We call that free speech.
The peeps have their bodies which they've been willing to put on the line in the form of demonstrations for the purpose of getting the ear of politicians, the media, and regular folks. This is also free speech.
In it's new contemporary form, 'Free speech' only has value if it is followed with a bribe or a reciprocal action of some sort for the purpose of doing business. It has become just another traded commodity, like most of our other 'rights' guaranteed by the constitution.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Unbelievable isn't it. Just recently the libs tried to take free speech away. The supremes slapped them down though.
Do you think people have the right to know who is speaking? That got slapped down too.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Unbelievable isn't it. Just recently the libs tried to take free speech away. The supremes slapped them down though.
You mean that system of corporate bribery masking as individual rights that was created out of whole cloth, a few years ago?
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Lol. I'd need a microscope to find your manparts Freddie..you're strictly a receiver.
Freddies get a boob job for more oral sucking sex !
Careful guys, your obsession is showing.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Why do you want to change your screen name to your real name?
Too many posters on your forum have wished me death.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Too many posters on your forum have wished me death.
I remember when Boris's grandaughter died a few years ago and she said that there were so many posters on LP who deserved to die first.
But then she's a member of that elitist tribe of chosen people, who evidently felt she was being unfairly singled out by God.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
I remember when Boris's grandaughter died a few years ago and she said that there were so many posters on LP who deserved to die first.
It must be beyond heartbreaking to lose a grandchild, however, I can't imagine how spreading the grief around does good for anyone.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
It must be beyond heartbreaking to lose a grandchild, however, I can't imagine how spreading the grief around does good for anyone.
I agree.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
You mean that system of corporate bribery masking as individual rights that was created out of whole cloth, a few years ago?
No. I am talking about the first amendment. Where congress is prohibited from making any law the restricts free speech. A constitutionalist you are not. Keep spinning all you like. Real Americans know what free speech is.
#50. To: lucysmom, mininggold, BorisY, A K A Stone, ALL (#45)
lucysmom: "I remember when Boris's grandaughter died a few years ago and she said that there were so many posters on LP who deserved to die first. But then she's a member of that elitist tribe of chosen people, who evidently felt she was being unfairly singled out by God."
mininggold: "It must be beyond heartbreaking to lose a grandchild, however, I can't imagine how spreading the grief around does good for anyone."
I'm sorry to hear about your g-daughter Boris, you have my heartfelt sympathy. I have 4 g-children of my own and could not imagine my grief if we were to lose one.
You two shameless SKANKS never seem to amaze me with your ignorance, your stupidity, your cold hearted insensitivity, I would have thought by now the two of you could not stoop any lower, I was wrong.
This man's g-child, if guilty of anything, like all of us, her offences during her lifetime will carry their own punishment and it will be God Himself who passes judgement upon her, not two faceless internet whores with an axe to grind. The two of you really should worry more about the heaps of hot coals that will be poured down upon you for this attack you waged upon this mans dead grandaughter, and his grieving heart. JMHO!
"OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."
