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Title: REPUBLICAN CHILD MOLSTER KILLS HIMSELF BY DRIVING HIS CAR INTO A BRIDGE
Source: chicagotribune
URL Source: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ ... y?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
Published: Oct 18, 2006
Author: chicagotribune
Post Date: 2006-10-18 10:44:14 by TLBSHOW
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Views: 981
Comments: 29

A Kane County Board candidate arrested last week on sexual assault charges died Tuesday when his vehicle slammed head-on into a concrete bridge support, Aurora police said.

Brent K. Schepp, 36, a father of four from Aurora, was traveling at "a very high rate of speed" on Eola Road and did not try to brake or take any evasive action, said Dan Ferrelli, police spokesman.

•"At this point in the investigation, we believe this to be self-inflicted," Ferrelli said, adding that the coroner and an inquest will determine the cause of death.

Schepp was seeking the board's District 3 seat, but his first bid for office quickly unraveled with the announcement Friday of charges that he sexually abused and assaulted two teenage girls in 2005. The Kane County Republican Central Committee withdrew its endorsement of his candidacy that afternoon.

Police said Schepp was speeding south in his 2006 Dodge Charger on Eola Road between Molitor and Diehl Roads about 10:35 Tuesday morning when the car hit the bridge support. The force of the crash tore the gray vehicle into pieces and threw Schepp 50 feet and under a heavy piece of wreckage. The car caught fire upon impact.

Two passers-by rushed to free Schepp, but he died at the scene, police said.

The violent death Tuesday layered shock upon shock in his quiet upscale community, where neighbors and political supporters were still coming to grips with the sexual assault allegations. "I feel sorry for him, his family and everybody concerned, obviously," said Dennis Wiggins, chairman of the Kane County Republican Organization.

Schepp had been under investigation for two months. He was charged with 14 counts of criminal sexual assault, 10 counts of criminal sexual abuse and two counts of unlawful delivery of alcohol to a minor.

Kane County State's Atty. John Barsanti said the abuse occurred last year between June and December and involved two girls, now 15 and 16, whom Schepp knew.

Schepp had turned himself in Friday and was free on $75,000 bail. He was facing a minimum sentence of 34 years in prison if convicted.

Authorities were trying to tell the teens of Schepp's death Tuesday and that the case was closed, Barsanti said.

"If the defendant is deceased, the case is dismissed," he said.

Schepp, a civil engineer, had been involved in behind-the-scenes Republican politics for many years but had never pursued political office.

A lifelong Aurora resident, he was among a group of community activists who pushed to reduce building density in older neighborhoods. Schepp was a precinct committeeman and a member of the party's Central Committee from Aurora Township.

He was touted for his professional background, which the Kane County Republican Central Committee said could help in future developments and capital projects, according to a ballot of recommendations posted on the committee's Web site.

After Schepp's arrest, the committee rescinded its recommendation, saying in a written statement that "our party cannot endorse a candidate in the upcoming elections who is currently under a cloud of suspicion for such alleged conduct." In interviews after the allegations became public, at least one local party official urged Schepp to step out of the race, but as of Tuesday, he had not withdrawn, officials said.

"It obviously had taken a toll," Wiggins said. " This is a terrible tragedy, and all we can do is pray for the guy and his family."

After expressing her regrets last week upon learning of Schepp's arrest, his Democratic opponent, Arlene Shoemaker of Aurora, said she was deeply saddened at the news of his death. She lives near the Schepp family and knows them, she said.

"It just makes you feel so sad ... when somebody who has so much talent and is so smart and has so much potential just does himself in," said Shoemaker, a former County Board member who came out of retirement to run for the seat being vacated by Ken Griffin.

Nobody answered the door at Schepp's two-story white home in the 400 block of Linden Avenue in south Aurora, where two vehicles were in the driveway Tuesday afternoon.

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#1. To: TLBSHOW (#0)

He was touted for his professional background, which the Kane County Republican Central Committee said could help in future developments and capital projects,

GOP is cracking up to be a country club for pedophiles and NWO land grabbers.

It's perverts like this who make those who rule us to be illegitimate office holders and unqualified to rule.

We are under no obligation to obey those who rule in unrighteousness. They know that. That's why Amerika is now a police state. It is only by protective force they stay in those positions.

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-18   11:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TLBSHOW (#0)

"I feel sorry for him, his family and everybody concerned, obviously," said Dennis Wiggins, chairman of the Kane County Republican Organization.

What about his child victims?

Someone needs to investigate Dennis, too.

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-18   11:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: cwrwinger (#1)

GOP is cracking up to be a country club for pedophiles and NWO land grabbers.

It is sure looking that way.

Just out of curiosity what is your opinion or Reagan, and Ron Paul? Just wonder if you think all Republicans are evil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-18   11:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

what is your opinion or Reagan, and Ron Paul?

Reagan = NWO puppet PR man.

Ron Paul = Thorn in the flesh for NWO, a Libertarian using the Repub store front.

Just wonder if you think all Republicans are evil.

Basically, except for Ron Paul, and maybe a few a the local county level, Republkans are big gov't socialists, lovers of centralised power in the spirit of lincoln with the tyranny of Sherman.

I do not know how Paul has lasted this long except he might actually be a righteous man. I don't know him so I'm just guessing. But his actions speak as loud as his words. He's okay. But as always, time will tell.

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-18   12:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#3)

What do I think of Reagan?

THE REAGAN SACRED COW
By Greg Kay
gregkay@ezwv.com

Sometimes – well, to be honest, usually – it’s the best intentioned people that really set me off. Inevitably, I suppose, since I’ve little patience with Orwellian double-think, less for those practicing it, and none for the ones who should know better: namely White Nationalists, Southerners among us in particular, who worship Ronald Reagan as… as one of them referred to him… “a Godsend.” I’ve got news for these folks; God sends a lot of things, including plague, flood, fire…and tyranny.

Reagan was a likable guy, no question about it: classy, charismatic, usually doing his lines with great aplomb. However, that goes with the territory of a trained, career showman. Remember, an actor is one who makes a living playing convincing parts as a thing he’s not. Around here we call that a b.s. artist (usually a hawker making some sales pitch), and no doubt Ronald Wilson Reagan was good at it. Not only did he play his part as “a conservative,” but, despite creeping Alzheimer’s, recited the lines his handlers gave him very well. People tend to forget that he was neither a conservative nor writing the script.

For those of you frothing at the mouth right now because you liked the things he said, let’s step back and take a look at what he and that administration actually did – before, during, and after his tenure as President of the United States.

First, let’s do a little review. After all, under his watch, corporate power rose and began to grow into the background check and this privacy-invading, crazy, working society that exists today. So it’s only fair.

Reagan’s “conservatism” started with his strong support for Franklin D. Roosevelt. Yes, he admired the man who not only gave us the New Deal, but did everything short of peeing in Emperor Hirohito’s best rice bowl to provoke a response allowing him to break his campaign promise and get us into World War II. He loved FDR so much as to quote him in his acceptance speech at the Republican convention.

Due to what was reported as poor eyesight, Reagan himself spent that war in the Signal Corps shooting propaganda films in Hollywood. As this didn’t sound heroic enough, the first known Reagan fantasy appeared. He began making the claim – and stuck with it throughout his political career – that, immediately after the defeat of Germany, he visited Buchenwald to shoot a film about the concentration camp. He was still saying that as President. It must have been an out-of-body experience, though, because he never left the country during that period, remaining the entire time in California.

Which wasn’t the last lie by Reagan; he told some whoppers to get himself elected. He would reduce the size of government, end such spending and deficits as started by the Carter Administration, eliminate the Departments of Energy and Education. Instead, during his time in office we saw those promises translated into massive raises in government spending as an even greater percentage of the GNP. After Carter’s last year in office, 1980, Federal spending rose from $591 billion to $1.064 trillion in 1988, Saint Reagan’s last year, and the deficit from $73.8 billion to $155 billion. Oh, and the Departments of Energy and Education? He didn’t eliminate either; strengthened them both.

One place Reagan did cut government legislation favored the Savings and Loan Industry. The result is still with us today, in scandal after scandal, as the heads of these companies get rich while running them into bankruptcy, taxpayers holding the bag while they hold the keys to a new Porsche.

Because of this and similar actions, the neo-cons claim Reagan was a great friend to business. Hardly; and, just as Bill Clinton “did not have sex with that woman,” it all depends on how you define “business.” Corporations are not business. Business is the local drug store, bakery, the unaffiliated bank. Business is responsible individuals. Corporations are conspiracies designed to shield the conspiring groups of individuals from the potential civil consequences of their actions, and provide them rights and immunities unavailable to individuals. The Gipper might’ve been a friend to the giant corporations (He was quoted as saying so behind the scenes during his 1980 campaign for the Republican nomination: “What have they got against me? I support big oil. I support big business.”) that have turned America into a quasi-feudal society, but he was no help to real, individualistic businesses, nor friend of the working class. For the first time, “unemployment” began to drop not because fewer people were out of work, but rather, having exhausted their benefits, they were no longer counted as unemployed.

But Reagan also promised to cut taxes and he did… Didn’t he? In a word: “No.” With some more Clintonesque shuffling, he “redefined” taxes before sliding them around the table in the old shell game. He officially lowered the take, then eliminated deductions and changed the brackets so that more people suddenly found themselves paying a greater percentage of their income to the Federal Government. He also raised Social Security taxes. In 1982 he oversaw the largest tax increase in U.S. history back then, to the tune of $100 billion. Which shouldn’t be too surprising, though. After all, he had done exactly the same thing as Governor of California. There, he ran on a campaign promise not to raise taxes, and then proceeded to do so in short order.

Lest we forget, it was also ol’ freedom loving Ronnie who laid the groundwork for this later loss of so many of our rights under Clinton and Bush II, in the name of a “War on Terrorism.” Reagan set the stage for that erosion with his “War on Drugs,” a situation demanding that we surrender our traditional liberties so the government can protect us from the evils of dope dealers (at least ostensibly; see next section). I think about that whenever yielding samples of my body fluids to the company pee police in order to get or keep a job; or when I read about money, cars and even homes being confiscated (read: stolen) by police with no charges ever being filed. Clinton simply took that same strategy and went further by hanging a right-wing face on it following the Oklahoma City Bombing, and copycat Dubya did likewise with an Arab mask plus still more refinements after 9-11. We may thank Ronald Reagan for today’s lost liberties; he planted what has grown like kudzu, strangling the landscape. Of course, you can tell a lot about a person by his friends, they say. Well, who were Reagan’s buddies on the world stage? Let’s see; he continued to back a certain Communist in Cambodia by the name of Pol Pot during the latter’s war against those other Communists in Vietnam. (If you don’t know who Pol Pot is, he’s considered one of the greatest butchers of humanity in all time. Look him up in the encyclopedia, or do a web search.) The Gipper also aided Saddam Hussein when Iraq was at war with Iran. You remember Saddam, don’t you? He’s been in the news quite a bit lately; we claim he is a monstrous war criminal. Another of Reagan’s old pals is a household word, too: Osama Bin Laden, who received help and training from the Reagan Administration’s CIA during our proxy war against the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan. Of course, he wasn’t the only one; the U.S. also aided the region’s opium lords – right in the middle of Reagan’s “War on Drugs” – who were growing and sometimes refining the stuff that was being shipped as heroin into Europe and the United States. They were opposed to the Soviets, don’t you know; so what’s a few addicts and resulting crimes when fighting a larger-scale War on Whatever? In fact, the Reagan CIA seemed to have an affinity for drug runners; consider the Contras of Nicaragua, who supported much of their efforts against the Sandinistas by trading in cocaine, which was going directly into the United States with at least the tolerance, reportedly outright support and assistance, of American intelligence. That particular plan was also underwritten by yet another Reagan ally, Panamanian President Manuel Noriega, who now sits in Federal prison as… you guessed it… a drug lord. Of course, like Saddam and Osama, only after he was no longer useful.

Ronald Reagan also invaded sovereign States Grenada and Lebanon. He claimed the need to “rescue” American medical students in the first country (who had never requested help) and, in the heat of saving them, seized the entire nation. This was lauded as a heroic action in the press, despite the fact that Grenada had no navy, air force, or even an army outside a token Cuban force there by invitation of the legitimate government. In the second case, he invaded Lebanon with the intent of helping Israel’s proxy army – the Lebanese Christian militias. That resulted in the deaths of U.S. Marines by the hundreds, also thousands of Lebanese, and finally the 9-11 attacks. This last Reagan legacy came back to haunt us because, as Osama Bin Laden has stated: while watching the U.S. Navy pounding those helpless Lebanese cities into rubble from offshore, he first conceived the idea of making America pay in kind for its actions.

(Ronald Reagan was also never one to let a little matter like the law interfere with his agenda, either. His adventures in Latin America were in direct violation of the Bolan Amendment, while his entry into Lebanon was equally illegal under the War Powers Act, both passed into law by Congress.)

As previously mentioned, he got us involved in the Iran-Iraq War, not only logistically but directly. He used the United States Navy to protect Iraqi oil tankers in the Persian Gulf despite the fact that the Iraqis accidentally mistook the USS Stark for an Iranian ship and sank it. His administration at first tried blaming the Iranians for that action, and used the resulting heightened alert as an excuse when “our” Navy blasted a fully loaded civilian Iranian airliner out of the sky and into the Persian Gulf, leaving no survivors. Reagan also openly attempted to cold-bloodedly assassinate a foreign head of state via aerial bombing, namely Libyan leader Khadafy. Missing him, they instead killed his nine-year-old little girl; but her tragic death was dismissed by the press, as she was “only his adopted daughter.” Of course, Reagan did have one real friend in the Middle East: Israel.

Following his thorough Judafication in Hollywood, he and his administration were among the most fanatically devoted to all things Jewish as had ever occupied the White House. No matter what Israel did, it was okay. When the United Nations dared to complain about Israeli actions, Reagan’s UN Ambassador Jean Kirkpatrick informed them that, “The United States walks out with Israel.” I don’t know about that, but… we certainly walked into the Middle East with them.

Israel and several other countries with atrocious human rights records received more foreign aid under Reagan than ever. Banks were encouraged to make “loans” to regimes that would never repay, and the U.S. bailed them out with our tax dollars.

Conservatives – the real ones, that is – believe in our right (some might even call it an obligation) to keep and bear arms. Ronald Reagan was honored repeatedly by the National Rifle Association as a hero, and by Guns & Ammo as “the gun owners’ champion,” primarily for his support of the McClure-Volkmer Act that rolled back a few provisions of the 1968 Gun Control Act – this while “coincidentally” severely limiting licensed machine gun transfers in the process; good overall perhaps, but a drop in the bucket when, later, he got a chance to express his real feelings on the subject. During his term, high-penetration bullets, state of the art composite handguns and the manufacture and licensed transfer of new machine guns were banned: all three items potentially of much more use if – when – it finally hits the fan. In the early 1990s he climbed in bed with Sarah Brady to lobby for passing one of the two most hated laws by those who cherish freedom, namely the Brady Bill; and he afterwards lobbied for passage of the second one: the assault weapons ban. After leaving office, he lobbied intensely for these two pieces of legislation, knowing that respectable conservatives would cast the blame on his bumbling successor, Bill Clinton, and that nothing he did would ever stick in their minds when it came to old “Teflon Ron.” If this is the “gun owners’ champion,” well, with friends like that, who needs enemas?

And what about race? In the aftermath of the Watts Riots, then-Governor Reagan decided to “understand” what caused those California Negroes to rob, rape, pillage, and burn through a substantial area, and, in the same way a cowardly French President is now doing with the Muslims, blamed it not on their inherent savage lawlessness, but discrimination and lack of economic opportunity. Thus, even while mouthing words against “affirmative action,” he put pressure on the State employment agencies to implement a program that had almost exactly the same result. His autobiography brags of him having “devoted a lot of time to bringing more Blacks and Hispanics into important jobs in the state government,” and “appointed more Blacks to executive and policy-making positions in State government than all the previous governors of California put together.” He was also responsible in large part for the institution of bilingual education in that State through an attempt to gain political ground in the barrios.

But at least Reagan was a good Christian man! I’m sure he was; that’s why he and his second wife Nancy were ardent astrologers, despite such practices being expressly forbidden by the Bible.

Finally, here’s Reagan’s real legacy to the South, in the words of the great Southern author Michael Grissom, from his must-read book, Can the South Survive? “Even today, with a majority of Southerners imperfectly informed about their own heritage, mention of the word ‘Reagan’ evokes starry-eyed idol worship among those in the South who choose not to remember that it was Ronald Reagan who gave us the troublesome Martin Luther King holiday, and that it was Ronald Wilson Reagan who not only signed but pushed for extension of the hated Voting Rights Act when it came up for renewal during his first term. He lobbied Congress to extend the federal government’s control over elections in the Deep South States for another twenty-five years. Like some coup-ridden banana republic, those Southern states under its provisions must endure the humiliation of federal poll-watchers who have the same type of authority Republicans gave carpetbag regimes during Reconstruction… Reagan’s policies were tangential with Southern interests only by coincidence. When he had the chance to relieve the South from some of its peculiar persecutions, he was cheerleading for the other side.”

And there you have it. Ronald Reagan was the same sort of President as had been Abraham Lincoln: at one with all the characteristics of a Bill or Dubya, but who happened to get good press. If that’s the kind of clay Southerners want to cast into heroes, all I can say is, God save the South…from us!

http://www.gulftel.com/firstfr eedom/29.htm

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-18   12:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: RepubliKan Party Toadies, Bushbots (#0)

the Kane County Republican Central Committee

In compliance with Megan's Law, every Republican HQ in the USSA, and every Republican Congress-Critter and elected and unelected Republican at the state and local levels should post sex-offender warnings on their doors.

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-18   14:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: cwrwinger (#6)

Good to hear the opinions of the braindead idiot bloc...keep it up, MORON...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-18   14:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: cwrwinger (#1)

"GOP is cracking up to be a country club for pedophiles..."

LOL...'tis the RATS who champion sex fiends and RAPISTS as their party icons, scumbag. GOP miscreants know enuff to resign and/or self-injure...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-18   14:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Mudboy Slim (#8)

LOL...'tis the RATS who champion sex fiends and RAPISTS as their party icons,

Go ahead and laugh. The last one will be on the RepubliKrats.

Repubs set themselves up, purposefully taking the high moral ground in the '80's & '90's. Now we discover it was only for votes to empower sodomites who used a front of religiousity to fool the voters.

Repub Party has not changed in character one bit since 1861.

May every Repub up for election (except Ron Paul) lose his job this November.

I guarrantee the winning Demokrats will take notice when the Repubs are kicked out enmass.

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-18   15:06:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Mudboy Slim (#8)

Mudboy Slim

Aren't you the Virginian turncoat who spits on his roots?

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-18   15:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: cwrwinger (#10)

No, I spit on yer roots, RATbot.

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-18   15:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: cwrwinger (#9)

"May every Repub up for election (except Ron Paul) lose his job this November."

RATbot scum dreams...thankfully, you and yer sorry ilk are destined fer permanent monority status...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-18   15:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Mudboy Slim (#8)

miscreants know enuff to resign and/or self-injure

just become a democrat!

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-18   17:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Mudboy Slim (#12)

RATbot scum dreams..

No demoKrat here. Please learn to think outside of the paradigm box.

There are also Constitutionalists (definitely not RepubliKrats), Christian libertarians, Southern patriots and independents. All of these cannot stomach the corruption of the Repub-demoKrat party(ies).

People who only see black 'n white, Repub 'n demoKrat are usually on welfare of some sort and can't afford to loose their gov't subsidy. Cannot afford to have the status quo (destroying our future) upset with truth.

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-18   18:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mudboy Slim (#12)

lol

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - With congressional elections less than three weeks away, the Republican party's approval ratings are at an all-time low, with approval of the Republican-led Congress at its lowest point in 14 years, according to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released on Wednesday.

Now I have told you before it happens so that, when it happens, you may believe

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-19   7:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: cwrwinger (#14)

"No demoKrat here."

Yet you proudly exclaim, "May every Repub up for election (except Ron Paul) lose his job this November." Walks like a RAT, talks like a RAT, probably is a RAT. You talk about false paradigms while you wish for all Pubbies to lose...LOL!!

You ain't fooling anybody...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-19   14:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TLBSHOW (#13)

"...just become a democrat!"

That's more of a self-inflicted injury than any God-fearing American should be able to accomplish, imgo...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-19   14:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Mudboy Slim (#16)

Okay, please tell me what the benefits will be if the Republicans keep everything or even gain some.

What should Americans expect from the Republicans?

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-20   11:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: cwrwinger (#18)

"...please tell me what the benefits will be if the Republicans keep everything or even gain some."

Judges are a big one...if the RATS take control of the Senate, you can kiss good-bye to all the true-blue orginalists we might hope for with a GOP- controlled Judiciary Committee. True enuff, the Senate R-RINOs** have conspired with the RATS to kill or shelve much of the more conservative legislation passed by the House, but electing more RATS to the Senate ain't gonna improve that. We need more ReaganConservatives in both the House and Senate...more RATS will only make the situation even more untenable.

"What should Americans expect from the Republicans?"

WeThePeople must demand more than we've gotten over the last six years, on that I think we both agree. And there are a good number of ReaganConservatives in the House trying to pass good rightwing legislation for the Senate and POTUS to sign off on. Giving Nancy Pelosi and her fellow idiots control of the House would be a big mistake, imho. They have the capacity to cause a lot of damage in a relatively short time and would represent a major step backward.

Regards...MUD

BTW...**Reagan-RepublicanInNameOnly

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-20   13:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Mudboy Slim (#19)

to all the true-blue orginalists we might hope for with a GOP- controlled Judiciary Committee.

You mean "true-blue" abortionists. The GOP is not capable of producing good gov't or selecting Constitutional judges which will declare the abortion issue a state issue and outside of the scope of the Federal gov't.

Here's an example of how your true-blues behave when they are in power:
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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:31:00 -0500
From: Columbia Christians for Life
Subject: President George W. Bush and the Republican-majority Congress
INCREASED Title X to record $288.3 million in FY 2005 on 12/8/04
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Press Release: February 7, 2005

President George W. Bush and the Republican-majority Congress INCREASED Title X to record $288.3 million in FY 2005 on 12/8/04

Title X is one of two major federal government funding sources for Planned Parenthood Federation of America, the nation's largest chain of abortion centers (murdering over 244,000 unborn human beings per year by surgical abortion alone).

The Title X appropriation for FY 2005 (Oct. 2004 to Sept. 2005) was signed into law as part of H.R. 4818 (see bill at http://thomas.loc.gov), the mammoth appropriations bill which contained the huge outlays for the (unconstitutional) Department of Health and Human Services.

The Republican-majority U.S. House approved H.R. 4818 by a vote of 344 to 51, on November 20, 2004 (Roll Call Number: 542). [Republicans 183 Yea, 27 Nay; Democrats 160 Yea, 24 Nay; 1 Independent Yea]

The Republican-majority U.S. Senate approved H.R. 4818 by a vote of 65 to 30, on November 20, 2004 (Record Vote Number: 215) [Republicans 42 Yea, 6 Nay; Democrats 23 Yea, 23 Nay; 1 Independent Nay]

The Republican President signedH.R. 4818 into law, authorizing the highest ever spending level for Title X in the history of the program, on December 8, 2004. It became Public Law No. 108-447.

This FY 2005 Bush administration Title X funding level of $288 million (an estimated $50-$60 million of which will be paid to "Murder, Inc.," Planned Parenthood Federation of America, for population control), exceeds by over $30 million, the highest Title X level during the Clinton administration, in FY 2001, of $254 million !

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"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-21   7:13:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: cwrwinger (#20)

"The GOP is not capable of producing good gov't or selecting Constitutional judges which will declare the abortion issue a state issue and outside of the scope of the Federal gov't."

Roe v. Wade will eventually be overturned simply becuz it is bad law, and it will be overturned due to a 5-4 majority in the SCOTUS, with those five justices all being nominated by GOP Presidents. We already know that Thomas and Scalia are on the right side of this issue, and there is reason to believe both Roberts and Alito are as well.

It would be a huge mistake to give up this long-term strategy for recapturing control of the Judicial Branch by those less-inclined to buy into this whole ominpotent Federal Leviathan concept. We know the Leftist RATS will continue to stack the courts with ideological morons like Breyer and Ginsburg (and Souter)...we must do whatever we can to keep them outta power until Stephens and the aforementioned three die off, imho.

Regards...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-21   17:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Mudboy Slim (#21)

Roe v. Wade will eventually be overturned simply becuz it is bad law,

Bad Law?

Please show me the law.

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-21   19:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: cwrwinger (#22)

Sorry, it was a bad ruling by the SCOTUS, a non-legislated decree...aka "bad law", not "A bad law"...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-21   22:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Mudboy Slim (#23)

Sorry, it was a bad ruling by the SCOTUS, a non-legislated decree...aka "bad law", not "A bad law"...MUD

Are bad decisions by the supreme court binding on us? Should we obey decisions that contradict the constitution? Or better yet should we disobey the government when it violates our morale conscience or Gods laws?

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-21   22:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Mudboy Slim (#23)

aka "bad law", not "A bad law"...

Your first response to R-v-Wade as being a "law" illustrates how imbedded the brainwashing is in this country.

The leftwing media loves to quote people who say R-v-Wade is "the law of the land".

Tell a big lie over and over and..............

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-21   22:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#24)

"Are bad decisions by the supreme court binding on us?"

To date they've been binding on the State governments who have tried to address the present untenable situation.

As fer yer next two questions, yes, I believe in civil disobedience...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-21   22:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#24)

Are bad decisions by the supreme court binding on us?

R-v-Wade is not "law". But our wimpy state governors refuse to claim this and ignore it. The states should just simply ignore this murderous judicial footnote.

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2006-10-21   22:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: cwrwinger (#25)

"The leftwing media loves to quote people who say R-v-Wade is "the law of the land"."

Good point...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-10-21   22:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: cwrwinger (#27)

R-v-Wade is not "law". But our wimpy state governors refuse to claim this and ignore it. The states should just simply ignore this murderous judicial footnote.

I agree with your sentiments completely.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-21   23:33:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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