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Title: Veterans's Thread
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Published: Nov 11, 2011
Author: jwpegler
Post Date: 2011-11-11 19:54:42 by jwpegler
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I haven't seen squat on Liberty Forum about Veteran's Day. Maybe there aren't any veterans our here except me. If you are a veteran, please respond with you your branch, base, unit, and dates of service. jwpegler By the way, if another 1960s hippy dippy turned neo-con war monger (like Michael Medved) "thanks me for my service" I am going to throw up...
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This is good news. Not at all. I think SneakyPete is a Vietnam vet as I am. But all post WW2 "vets" are victims of a nation that is out-of-control and whose military is at the beckon call of the UN. There hasn't been a REAL war since WW2 is what I am saying. So why did you make a thread about being a "vet?"
This is good news. I thought that I was a cynical SOB, but you've topped me with your post. Yes, all governments are rotten to the core, including the American government. However, America is absolutely worth defending. I've been in 26 countries. I've been in many of those countries several times each. I have great respect for some of those countries. I also know that America is worth defending. I understand that you were drafted and I don't agree with that. My view is that only free people can defend a free society. I am at least at decade younger than you. As a result, we have a different perspective. I volunteered. It was the best decision I ever made. You were drafted and it was horrible. The neo-cons never served, so they agitate for war. I think that we can both agree that this is wrong. I hope that you can agree that America is worth defending and that people who volunteer to defend America are worth celebrating. That's why I posted this..
Huh? Exactly how is America being defended after WW2 with highly paid mercenaries running around murdering people in other nations, such as South Vietnam in the past and today, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya today? Are discussing this nonsense of the SUPER_DUPER TOP-SECRET NATIONAL SECURITY issue(s) that are never proven or substantiated? Please explain what is being defended. So what? Why does America have its nose up every asshole around the world? Yeah? So go over there and defend them on your own dime which is what I tell everyone when they over-glamourize the US military. Where is my "than you for your service" platitude? So let every nation defend themselves. And that is EXACTLY what America needs to do with respect to the Mexican invasion. You don't seem to understand that claiming that you are "wet behind the ears" doesn't give you a free excuse to wave around. Yea! Thank you for your service! Now, go barf, like you claimed to forecast. Naw, I scored high on the GT and as a result made out like a bandit. Yeah. So what? Since WW2 that same sort of mentality still festers within American governance. Yet, WW2 is long over. So are the "good ol' days" when the world depended upon America might to rebuild other nations; today, this sort of thinking is leading us into a turd bowl. Not American interests around the world. Nope. Never.
CZ82, US Air Force, AFSC 545X0 Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning 819th CES RED HORSE, (Civil Engineering Squadron, Heavy Repair) RAF Wethersfield, England 1980-1983 410th CES, 410th Bomb Wing, K.I. Sawyer AFB, Michigan 1983-1989 7th CES, 7th Bomb Wing, Dyess AFB, Texas 1989-1999
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My unit is under performing. Can you check it out for me?
Can you check it out for me? What's it doing??? Or should I say what's it "NOT" doing????
"CHANGE" you can step in..... Thats a shame.... Post of mine on a forum [currently],,,discussing Military History. ****************************************************************************** Was posting on Graf Spee at a Military forum with lots of pro German posters who took apart my position much as you did. One poster there did support my position...which seemed to rally the majority to crush the premise that Graf Spee could have survived the encounter/or break out. While technically correct on their part,....I see war as a reality where [as in the case of Graf Spee] you are a warship.....regardless of what mistakes you have made to be in such an encounter, you fight! Little Wolves at Samar [Taffy 3 - destroyers Hoel, Heermann and Johnston, and destroyer escorts Dennis, John C. Butler, Raymond, and Samuel B. Roberts.] German U boats....1939 The U-boat War, 1939-42 by John Barratt Opening Shots excerpt: The net result of all this was that Donitz rarely had more than 20 boats available for Atlantic operations at any one time, of which only about half a dozen would actually be on station. Although such a small force could hardly bring Britain to her knees, they had a number of individual successes. The British responded to the U-boat threat by forming "hunter-killer" groups, sometimes built around an aircraft carrier, but this policy went into sharp reverse when on September 19th 1939, the U-9 sank the carrier "Courageous" in the Western Approaches, with the loss of 518 men. This was followed quickly by another sharp blow, when on October 14th, Gunther Prien, in U-47 , penetrated the supposedly impregnable defences of the British Home Fleet's principal base at Scapa Flow, and sank the battleship Royal Oak . [end] 15.12. "Graf Spee" is damaged and has put into Montevideo after her action in the South Atlantic. Naval War Staff has asked B.d.U. what support U-boats could give the pocket battleship off the mouth of the La Plata. I have assured Naval War Staff that I will do all I can and I am determined to try everything possible, in spite of the great difficulties which an operation of this kind with U-boats involves. 2 U-boats (U 44 and U 46) can be got ready in time to reach the La Plata at the beginning of February. The operation depends mainly on the question of supply. It will be necessary to refuel on the way out, on the way back and in the operations area. Naval War Staff promises supplies in the Canaries and off the La Plata from "Altmark". This means that the operation can be attempted. It means going into the Tropics and there is no experience of U-boats in these areas. Preparations must be made accordingly. Special attention will have to be paid to victualling supplies, clothing and medical matters in view of the changes of climate, high temperatures and strong sun. Torpedo pistols, electric torpedo batteries and ammunition are also likely to be effected. The necessary steps are being taken immediately. (signed): Dönitz Rear Admiral and B.d.U. 16.12. The U-boat operation in support of "Graf Spee" has been cancelled. Apparently political considerations make it necessary to decide the pocket battleship's fate sooner.[excerpt end] The above info from Donitz margins that U boats could have been sent in some form of creative action which of course involves risk and audacity....in a earlier time frame than Donitz stated. It really comes down to resolve. clearly Langsdorff fainted in the face of the British cruisers, he suicided his ship in a way which left a propaganda trophy win [instead of sinking her at sea with no trophy pics] He commited suicide....which points towards a trend in mindset which indicates to me...he was not a battle commander on par with the Command shown by the plucky tin cans of the USN listed out above in their actions. Your points made concerning the condition of the British cruisers....changes with a few more salvo's or torpedo's fired by Graf Spee. Its possible Graf Spee could have seriously damaged these British cruisers...even if we card it as luck. Graf Spee could have slipped away....wounded....and stopped other shipping in the south atlantic to take useable fuel or machinery to bodge repair her ship. I can't off hand remember the names...I believe there were 2 German freighter type ships in the vicinity of La Plata region in that time window. Graf Spee could have gone north near the African coast on obtained fuel and repairs to close the distance for U Boat support. Small U.S. ships like USS Luzon PR-7- Yangtze River Patrol, Excerpt: She remained off Shanghai until 29 November 1941 when she departed for the Philippines. Luzon arrived at Manila 30 December, just 23 short, trying days after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor brought the United States pellmell into World War II. She then began patrol operations in the waters of the Philippines, assisting the heroic but unsuccessful defense of both Bataan, from 1 February until the surrender of the peninsula to the Japanese 9 April, and Corregidor, from the beginning evacuations of that entrance island to Manila Bay until the enemy landings 5 May.[end] little River Gun Boat Luzon .....working her way past Japans navy now swarming that region after Dec 7..... : ) so ya.....I read the can do,....we'll find a way, were damaged...but we got some fight left, were finished.....fire the torpedo's and abandon ship. You can change the outcome.......if you gut up and have the resolve. or you can run away,....and commit suicide.[end] Poster comment: Parrot: On this Veterans day...we remember the Spirit of the fighting men of the U.S.,....who would not quit in the face of the insurmountable,....who fought till the very last,...who changed the outcome of battle which appeared defeat.
"CHANGE" you can step in..... US NAVY 7th Fleet Vietnam DESRON 15 forward deployed out of Yokosuka Japan DLG-30 USS Horne DDG-33 USS Parsons Fourth Division/FOX Division Firecontrol, Missiles, Main battery Air search AN/SPS-48 1967 - 1974 FTW
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
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No matter what, it's ALWAYS about THEM. Lord rest their souls. NEVER forget. NEVER
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Yeah right. Since WW2, the US military machine is considered an expendable piece of garbage; that is the common man is convinced to goto warzones around the world and that they may die fighting for NOTHING, their coffins are often draped in some sort of voo-doo called the UN or SEATO or NATO or some other sort of BS. The US Congress has NEVER created an ACT of WAR since WW2. American flesh is just a causality in a fucking political game of empire. I have no sympathy for any of you that may have sob or boo-hoo in these issues. You don't understand anything.
I am certainly NOT defending the U.S. government's foreign policy misadventures. America is worth defending. Not the government. Not the politicians. Not the bureaucrats. But, the Constitution and the people. We need to separate the horrible policies the politicians have foisted on the country from the willingness of America kids to defend the country. Yes, sometimes those kids have lost their lives because the idiot politicians are engaged in a giant game of Risk. Yes, the politicians should be condemned, but not the kids in uniform.
Where half-way around the world while our own nation is bleeding to death by illegal aliens running amuck? For a POLICE-STATE to shape the citizenry into submission of a government that is totally out of control? America's foreign and domestic policies are NOT in keeping with the US Constitution. So answer my question. What is worth defending? Millions can't even get a job in this GODDAMNED nation anymore.
Where half-way around the world while our own nation is bleeding to death by illegal aliens running amuck? For a POLICE-STATE to shape the citizenry into submission of a government that is totally out of control? America's foreign and domestic policies are NOT in keeping with the US Constitution. So answer my question. What is worth defending? Millions can't even get a job in this GODDAMNED nation anymore. How long have you thought this way buckeroo? That America isn't worth defending?
If it makes you feel any better there are a lot of people that think we need to get rid of about 95% of the politicians in this country.....
"CHANGE" you can step in..... I want to know why jwpegler doesn't answer my questions or even yourself or anyone? What is the matter with you fine folks that believe in the spirit of personal opinion, honest and publick communications? Cat GOT YOUR FUCKING TONGUES? I already know the answer(s) too.
Answer my question. If I missed a question of your point it out.
Probably longer than you have been walking or breathing aire upon the planet, Earth. Now, answer my thoughtful questions originally posed to jwpegler.
Then why did you join the minutemen?
So why did you make a thread about being a "vet?" He probably posted this article because he is a veteran and was thinking about it.
Because those in power perceive there to be threats. That and they want more power.
Most of us that care about the nation do something based upon personal initiative from time time to time; the reasons are not just personal, too. My reasons are often political that show how ineffective ANY of us are towards changing the course of this massive government that ignores our own borders while shipping off TRILLIONS of dollars on pallets carted off by derelicts and scoundrels. Even before the Minutemen, I was fairely good at a couple of Washington DC marches ... that is to say, before the Iraqi conflict. Ask most that know me. Years ago, I learned that the political ping/pong game of politics such as the GOP vs. the Dems or any such nonsense is built into the political system of America; neither political party ever hopes to solve actual problems. The real goal is how "THEY" can swing your vote into an abyss, as nothing is ever solved.
jwpegler should be thinking how he was raped by his own government while he is taxed to death; not about any idea or concept of "glory" because he decided to join the US mercenaries.
And you fall for the BS everyday of your life. Do you want to know why? Because you have no power in this FUCKED-UPPED nation.
It isn't enough, is it?
And you fall for the BS everyday of your life. Next time quote my whole response. They are dependent on each other for the picture of what I said. There are some people who perceive there to be threats. And their are threats. A nuclear Iran is a threat if you believe it or not. Then the second part of my answer was about the desire of those who rule us for more power. So again tell me what I fell for.
So is Zionist Israel, if you believe it or not.
Do you see Israel as a direct thread? Or indirect? What I am asking do you think Israel would attack us? Or are they a threat because you perceive them to pull us into wars that we shouldn't be in? I think Iran is a direct threat. And if over time they build missiles that could reach here they would potentially use them. I understand that Iran legitimately sees us as a threat to them also.
You don't think at all.
So it is your position that we should help them with their nuke program? Do you think that they will never have missiles that can reach America? Now tell me who isn't thinking. You think. Only 10 min down the road though. You're probably pretty good at candyland but not so much at chess.
Dog is Right! A Veterans Day thread should focus on the Veteran. Nations Betray...conspire....countering that falls to the Veteran All they request...is one honors their service.
What benefits does an ungracious America bestow upon a veteran? If you are DEAD, you get a 200 dollar wooden crate and a kick in the ass. If you are still alive, you have your kick in the ass still coming.
When did Iran attack another county? How many times has America attacked another country in the past 50 years? Q.E.D.
Most of us that care about the nation do something based upon personal initiative from time time to time; the reasons are not just personal, too. My reasons are often political that show how ineffective ANY of us are towards changing the course of this massive government that ignores our own borders while shipping off TRILLIONS of dollars on pallets carted off by derelicts and scoundrels. Even before the Minutemen, I was fairely good at a couple of Washington DC marches ... that is to say, before the Iraqi conflict. Ask most that know me. Years ago, I learned that the political ping/pong game of politics such as the GOP vs. the Dems or any such nonsense is built into the political system of America; neither political party ever hopes to solve actual problems. The real goal is how "THEY" can swing your vote into an abyss, as nothing is ever solved. I would say that you really DO think America is worth defending. Or you wouldn't be here stating your values and beliefs passionately.
Neither. ISRAEL IS AN INTERNAL THREAT TO US NATIONAL AFFAIRS. For some strange reason, the USA permits Zionists to dictate the TOP LEVEL POLICIES of America. Of course, you like that. You think, they are chosen. ROTFL.
When did Iran attack another county? How many times has America attacked another country in the past 50 years? Q.E.D. Iran attacks other nations through surrogates. They hope to change that with nuclear weapons. I think the world would be WORSE off if Iran had nukes. I don't think any muslim nation should have nukes.
You think Ohole is an Israel agent or something? That is nuts. He is a muslim plant if anything. We give more to arab nations then Israel in foreign aid. We should end it all though.
Howz about them there black nations of Africa?
As always, you don't add much to the debates. You just add defensive SHIT that proves your own incapability to hold a substantive argument.
Howz about them there black nations if Africa? I don' want any other nations to get nukes. It makes the world more dangerous.
Worked 2 decades plus at the front end of oil/gas steel fab,
I think the world would be WORSE off if Iran had nukes. I don't think any muslim nation should have nukes. Several Moo si lum nations have been caught in the trap of serving another power block which has their own agenda. Islam has always been a violent reality which fought its own people first with the inhouse religion division - Sunni/Shia. Iran being Shia is driven to exploit all situations where Sunni exist. It does not however mean Iran would attack Anyone with a nuclear weapon....had they one. Israel are fools to keep agitating the Moo si lums with the attack threats Israel has good intel......I would agree to a pre empt attack on Iran after I knew the suckers were ready to fuel the weapon...or move it into position.
Didn't we play "let's you and him fight during the cold war?
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
MD; No matter what, it's ALWAYS about THEM. Yeah right. Since WW2, the US military machine is considered an expendable piece of garbage; that is the common man is convinced to goto warzones around the world and that they may die fighting for NOTHING, their coffins are often draped in some sort of voo-doo called the UN or SEATO or NATO or some other sort of BS. The US Congress has NEVER created an ACT of WAR since WW2. American flesh is just a causality in a fucking political game of empire. I have no sympathy for any of you that may have sob or boo-hoo in these issues. You don't understand anything. You are a pitiful and slimy piece of SH!T fuckeroo. Veteran's Day is about ALL VETERANS and the SACRIFICES THEY have made so that you and your ilk can be a foul gibbering dishonorable piece of SH!T. I have news for you you piece of SH!T, there is NO difference between any VETERANS OF ANY GENERATION when it comes to the "quality" of their sacrifices and RISKS that they ALL took. YOU're really just a pitiful little SH!T tossing monkey, whose filth and whining is a mark of who and WHAT YOU ARE as an individual, a bitter feeble little SH!T tossing monkey. That you call OUR Vets, OUR FAMILY, OUR FRIENDS, OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR ANCESTORS, OUR NATION "GARBAGE" says EVERYTHING about YOU fuckeroo. YOU ain't anything but a FAILED, POWERLESS, FEEBLE, BITTER, FOUL, COWARDLY, GIBBERING LITTLE DISHONORABLE SH!T tossing monkey. YOU ain't even worth SH!TTING ON. YOU'D NEVER dare spew that sh!t face to face you COWARDLY little SH!T tossing monkey. I wouldn't PISS on you if you were on fire. BUT you got done what you always do didn't you little SH!T tossing monkey? You FOULED up a thread that was meant to HONOR ALL of OUR AMERICAN vets. Decent AMERICANS DESPISE you LOSER. You powerless, foul, feeble sick little SH!T tossing monkey "a MAN does his DUTY regardless of all other factors, and even when nobody is watching." Of course you foul little SH!T tossing monkey, what would a slimy little SH!T tossing simian like YOU know about being a MAN? LMAOAY!!!!!!!!! NOTHING, of course. Spit ...
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Made for what? Specifically, I am talking since WW2. All they have done is permit themselves to be slain at the political altar block so that weak-kneed, yapping mongrels like you can boo-hoo about them so that you support some foolish notion that they died for this nation. They have died for nothing AND for those that have been wounded, they have been wounded for NOTHING AND for those that have served in the holy American mercenaries, they have served for NOTHING.
What is the matter with you fine folks that believe in the spirit of personal opinion, honest and publick communications? Cat GOT YOUR FUCKING TONGUES? I already know the answer(s) too. I'll answer your question you vile piece of SH!T. AMERICA is worth defending because AMERICA is GOOD, (pick a BETTER country you gibbering fraud) and it is OUR HOME, (why are YOU still here creep?). AMERICA isn't this FUCKING feral gooberment et. al. MORON, it's THE AMERICAN PEOPLE you foul gibbering piece of shit. That "the powers that be" currently know no LAW , that is to say disregard the US CONSTITUTION, does NOT invalidate the CONSTITUTION you gibbering fuckwad. When it OBVIOUSLY, NOW, time to stand UP! to wheel to turn to face them, and to ADVANCE; little bitches such as you whine about how hopeless and useless it all is and cry your rivers of croc tears before you give up. Then you call the rest of US AMERICANS, who will NEVER give up, foul little names while you insult us all. And fuckeroo you have every right to SAY whatever the fuck you want to say, and you also have the right to DEFEND your crap from all the rest of US AMERICANS who also have the right to say what WE think about YOU, you feeble little whiny cunt. Why don't you just crawl off somewhere and DIE already? Your constant whining and crying is starting to get on OUR AMERICAN nerves you feeble little bitch. How'd ya like my answer bitch? Spit ...
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Made for what? Specifically, I am talking since WW2. All they have done is permit themselves to be slain at the political altar block so that weak-kneed, yapping mongrels like you can boo-hoo about them so that you support some foolish notion that they died for this nation. They have died for nothing AND for those that have been wounded, they have been wounded for NOTHING AND for those that have served in the holy American mercenaries, they have served for NOTHING. I KNOW what you're talking about, you simpering slimy little shit tossing simian creep. You are TRYING to say that some AMERICAN VETERAN'S sacrifices are/were more "valuable"than the sacrifices of other generations of AMERICAN VETERAN'S. You are TRYING to say that post WW2 vets are DIFFERENT. Which is un-AMERICAN crap, just like YOU are, you gibbering little shit tossing monkey. ALL of the vets who have DIED, ALL of the vets who have been MAIMED for LIFE, ALL of the vets who have served with HONOR, ALLof those vets would tell you that they did what they did out of DUTY. I know that YOU don't know sh!t about DUTY monkey boy, because to know about DUTY you'd have to know HONOR. Those men and women DIED and were MAIMED for LIFE, for their brothers in arms, for their families, and for their own personal HONOR and DUTY, and for their perception of what the HONOR and DUTY of this nation is, you feeble gibbering dishonorable little bitch. That you would try to claim it was all for "nothing" shows the WORLD what a foul dishonorable little COWARD YOU are bitch. FUCK you monkey gurl. Spit ...
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
How is modern America "good?" Explain your point of view. Cite examples of where American government interference around the world since WW2 has been "good." Even as recently as Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya, America has lied out its teeth killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the name of "Democracy." What does "Democracy" have to do with America? Furthermore, why should America be introducing political concepts of "Democracy" into other sovereign nations other than by FORCE?
If "vets" since WW2 are such AWESOME soldiers, how is it that in South Korea, those that died were wrapped in UN flags? And in Iraq, the American government was so ashamed of those that died, there were no publick pictures AT ALL of those brought back?
I don't know anybody who is asking for "honor". It doesn't work that way. What we HONOR is what they DID, and who they were and are. They don't NEED us to HONOR them, their ACTS have HONORED them. All we can do is recognise and remember. Of course some sick, bitter, mentally and emotionally CRIPPLED creeps just have to SH!T all over vets or just "some" vets. Because, fuck I don't know why really. I guess because they HATE AMERICA? Because they have no HONOR? Because they have no understanding on any level of DUTY? I know that they are by and large just foul, bitter, little sh!t tossing monkey boys; COWARDS who hide behind the web to say sh!t that would get their foul azzes bitch slapped down to the ground if they ever tried to pull their act face to face. But anyhow, you got it mostly correct Psd, not that the truth means sh!t to creeps like fuckeroo.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Furthermore, why should America be introducing political concepts of "Democracy" into other sovereign nations other than by FORCE? Are you DRUNK already fuckeroo? What I actually said; " I'll answer your question you vile piece of SH!T. AMERICA is worth defending because AMERICA is GOOD, (pick a BETTER country you gibbering fraud) and it is OUR HOME, (why are YOU still here creep?). AMERICA isn't this FUCKING feral gooberment et. al. MORON, it's THE AMERICAN PEOPLE you foul gibbering piece of shit. That "the powers that be" currently know no LAW , that is to say disregard the US CONSTITUTION, does NOT invalidate the CONSTITUTION you gibbering fuckwad. When it OBVIOUSLY, NOW, time to stand UP! to wheel to turn to face them, and to ADVANCE; little bitches such as you whine about how hopeless and useless it all is and cry your rivers of croc tears before you give up. Then you call the rest of US AMERICANS, who will NEVER give up, foul little names while you insult us all. And fuckeroo you have every right to SAY whatever the fuck you want to say, and you also have the right to DEFEND your crap from all the rest of US AMERICANS who also have the right to say what WE think about YOU, you feeble little whiny cunt. Why don't you just crawl off somewhere and DIE already? Your constant whining and crying is starting to get on OUR AMERICAN nerves you feeble little bitch. How'd ya like my answer bitch? Spit ..." ------------------------------------------------- You fucking MORON, how does AMERICA = the feral gooberment to YOU? You gibbering sh!thead? I could, with ease, address your fucking nonsense point by point. But why bother? You are just a mentally and emotionally challenged old FOOL and a bitter little MORON. Show me worm, where I have ever defended a feral gooberment? Show me monkey gurl anywhere I have ever supported UN CONSTITUTIONAL gooberment you gibbering retard. I support AMERICA first. I don't give a F what we have to do to keep THIS NATION safe and sound. Don't you know what FTW means bitch? Why don't you PICK A BETTER COUNTRY bitch. If you really believe the filth that you spew loser, if AMERICA is so bad it should be EASY, so ... WHY are YOU STILL IN AMERICA you foul little bitch? Oh yeah, you're just a foul little mentally and emotionally challenged creep. Btw creep, you disappear from my life 100% the very instant that I leave this site worm. You mean NOTHING, except as an object lesson and example of what an absolute FOOL looks like. Spit ...
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
You fucking MORON, how does AMERICA = the feral gooberment to YOU? You gibbering sh!thead? I could, with ease, address your fucking nonsense point by point. But why bother? You are just a mentally and emotionally challenged old FOOL and a bitter little MORON. Show me worm, where I have ever defended a feral gooberment? Show me monkey gurl anywhere I have ever supported UN CONSTITUTIONAL gooberment you gibbering retard. I support AMERICA first. I don't give a F what we have to do to keep THIS NATION safe and sound. Don't you know what FTW means bitch? Why don't you PICK A BETTER COUNTRY bitch. If you really believe the filth that you spew loser, if AMERICA is so bad it should be EASY, so ... WHY are YOU STILL IN AMERICA you foul little bitch? Oh yeah, you're just a foul little mentally and emotionally challenged creep. Btw creep, you disappear from my life 100% the very instant that I leave this site worm. You mean NOTHING, except as an object lesson and example of what an absolute FOOL looks like. Spit ....
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Why are you lowering the benchmark for what was comparing America to communist, socialist and just about everything like Somalia? Are you afraid to admit, that America is a failed nation while believing in some old historical and often mythological book before 1945? After 1945, America changed drastically and we are reaping the whirlwind of failure, today.
There is a difference between America, or the concept of America, and the cancerous U.S. government that has been slowly destroying America for the last 100 years. America is worth defending. The politicians and bureaucrats in the U.S. government need to be dealt with appropriately.
You mean the American soldiers of South Korea and Iraq went to those respective sovereign nations to play tiddly-winks or perhaps perform a Michael Jackson "MoonWalk" for fun & games? You mean those American soldiers that died in those respective nations were not ordered to play soldier in the defense of America by the US government? Where have you been?
I corrected your error. You can go back to sleep, now.
I'm NOT "lowering" anything you gibbering retard. You HATE, and have given up on AMERICA fuckeroo. I get that you pitiful loser. We all get that you whiney little creep. But you are a COWARD and a HYPOCRITE since you still live here, even though it's so "bad" loser. Aren't you creep? LOL! "Failed nation"! You absurd little whiney bitch! The "game" is not over, and it NEVER will be as long as people such as me and ALL of those vets that you call "GARBAGE" are alive, you foul simpering little dishonorable COWARD. Adams was speaking directly to YOU bitch and the rest of your cowardly cadres; "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
What is left here? A pile of debt, old-age pensioners and illegal aliens and of course, a POLICE-STATE.
You mean the American soldiers of South Korea and Iraq went to those respective sovereign nations to play tiddly-winks or perhaps perform a Michael Jackson "MoonWalk" for fun & games? You mean those American soldiers that died in those respective nations were not ordered to play soldier in the defense of America by the US government? Where have you been? You can't even answer a simple question, can you you simpering piece of crap? Tell me tell us all bitch, how does AMERICA = the feral gooberment? You CLAIM to be a vet, did you serve the feral gooberment bitch? Did you take a OATH to serve, HONOR, protect and defend the feral gooberment bitch? MY OATH was to the US CONSTITUTION. You have a pitifully sub standard mental ability and child like retarded emotional grasp on life loser. Honestly you should just KILL YOURSELF, it's the ONLY way. AMERICA IS DOOMED! DO IT NOW! LOL! AMERICA should be so lucky! Piss OFF monkey boy! Spit ...
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
What is left here? A pile of debt, old-age pensioners and illegal aliens and of course, a POLICE-STATE. Oh yeah bitch! I SO see your "point", (it's right there on top of your head as usual)! ALL IS LOST! AMERICA IS DOOMED! WE should all MOVE or committ suicide! RIGHT loser? Well , YOU certainly should! There is no way out loser! KILL YOURSELF! DO IT NOW! There is no other way! (for losers such as YOU at least). Put us ALL out of YOUR misery loser! KILL YOURSELF! DO IT NOW! ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
America is held together by a series of governments from city to county to state and the federal government. Those government employees (about 25,000,000 right now) swear an allegiance to the federal government, not to America. They can use FORCE against you any time they chose to, particularly after the US Patriot Act was installed and a new federal Homeland Security Bureaucracy was installed further strengthening SWAT capabilities in local jurisdictions. THATS HOW. AND YOU PAY FOR THIS SHIT OF A POLICE_STATE THAT HAS ERADICATED YOUR FUCKING FREEDOMS,LIBERTIES AND DIGNITIES.
Well stated. Who is going to save us .... some BS religious freak that has been in the sky playing a harp for 2000 years ignoring the events? Some guy/gal you vote for? Perhaps a Martian landing here that has a cook-book, "To Serve Man" ... We can speculate forever. But the truth is, this place that you cherish is a all dried upped with an over-weight bureaucracy, retiring mongrels that run around in a Winna-Bego, lack of education, debt, low markets, no jobs, lousy hamburgers and expensive auto insurance. Oh yeah, and no leaders at all. The place is FUCKED.
And CUNT, you STILL can't answer that in a SANE way can you fuckeroo filth? But don't TRY to change the subject you vile CUNT. You called all post WW2 USA armed forces VETERANS "GARBAGE", AND "worthless". That tells EVERYTHING about YOU, you despicable CUNT. But you can solve this problem CUNT. KILL yourself CUNT. DO IT NOW! You vile, cowardly, slimy, No BALLS CUNT. Spit ...
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
But don't TRY to change the subject you vile CUNT. You called all post WW2 VETERANS "GARBAGE". That tells EVERYTHING about YOU, you despicable CUNT. But you can solve this problem CUNT. KILL yourself CUNT. DO IT NOW! You vile, cowardly, slimy, No BALLS CUNT. Spit ...
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Look. You are going to have to watch your mouth from now on. I've seen you debate without that kind of language. We are cleaning this place up. I want serious discussion from now on. Thanks buddy.
I regularly give war timeouts for talking like that.
. You gotta do what you gotta do man. Personally, I've gotta, ALWAYS, IN ALL WAYS, DEFEND ALL US ARMED FORCES SERVICE MEMBERS AND VETERANS, FROM COWARDLY FILTHY CREEP'S SLURS AND FIGHTING WORDS INSULTS. I HAVE quit using that language, except here when I am addressing someone who, (fuckeroo), who you allow to do so with no strong negative comment, calls all post WW2 veterans "GARBAGE" and "WORTHLESS". Is THAT a defensible "debate" technique to your mind? So, I ask you NOW, ONCE, to put a muzzle on that foul gibbering piece of shit's pie hole, and then there will be no further use of such language from my side. That's the deal as far as I'm concerned. IF you don't muzzle that POS you are going to make me think that you agree with "him", and then we'll deal with THAT. OBVIOUSLY, it's YOUR BOAT. Do as you will. I have no illusion of any sort of control here. I always do my best to tell you and everyone else the TRUTH as I see it. TRUTH is an ABSOLUTE defense. At least it USED to be.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Here is what I said in post#12: No matter what, it's ALWAYS about THEM. Yeah right. Since WW2, the US military machine is considered an expendable piece of garbage; that is the common man is convinced to goto warzones around the world and that they may die fighting for NOTHING, their coffins are often draped in some sort of voo-doo called the UN or SEATO or NATO or some other sort of BS. The US Congress has NEVER created an ACT of WAR since WW2. American flesh is just a causality in a fucking political game of empire. I have no sympathy for any of you that may have sob or boo-hoo in these issues. You don't understand anything. buckeroo posted on 2011-11-12 18:42:56 Someone needs to reign in on your choke-chain.
We are By crappy moderation. There, I fixed it for you.
We are cleaning clearing this place up out. ha ha Good one.
Do you believe in standards?
Have you read mininggold's tag line? How can you allow jwpegler to get away with stuff like that?
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
The US Congress has NEVER created an ACT of WAR since WW2. American flesh is just a causality in a fucking political game of empire. Buck and I rarely agree,but he is 100% or target with this one. If it's worth sending young men and women off to risk their lives,their health,and their entire future,it's worth forcing those corrupt bastards in Congress to get together to do their sworn DUTY and cast votes for or against it. No more,"Whut? I doan no whut happened. Hit musta been dose udder guys in the udder party what did all this. I was juz sitting dere minding mah own biznez,when all of a suden troops were fighting,dying,and being crippled for life. It's not MAH falt!" If you take the oath and you draw the check and ENORMOUS benefits from serving in Congress,DO YOUR DAMN DUTY!
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Because there is not enough evidence to persuade anyone that this isn't just an offshoot of the Log Cabin Republican site.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Well Stone only mentioned standards, he didn't say what standards.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
I think he meant standard deviations.
You must be right because it is deviant.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
ming is the one spreading it far and wide. I think he posted it in response to her continually using the word teabagger.
Do you let your kids excuse their bad behavior with arguments like that?
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Do you let your kids excuse their bad behavior with arguments like that? But calling people teabaggers is acceptable?
What's wrong with it? The movement started with the sending of tea bags to congress. Why do you let gays steal your thunder?
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Tea party members started out calling themselves teabaggers. They even wore tea bags hanging from their sunglasses - that's what made it so funny. beeryblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/teabagger.jpeg All of that is not the same as a pornographic description of a sex act targeting a specific woman. Some would call that sexual harassment and put a stop to it. Others make excuses.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Don't TRY to change the subject you vile CUNT. You called all post WW2 VETERANS "GARBAGE". That tells EVERYTHING about YOU, you despicable CUNT. But you can solve this problem CUNT. KILL yourself CUNT. DO IT NOW! You vile, cowardly, slimy, No BALLS CUNT. Spit ...
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Hey how does any of THAT affect the actual GRUNTS? Piss off. I'd NEVER send any of them anywhere without meaning it 100%. I support the TROOPS not the rotten worthless fuckers RUNNING the show. I'm talking about the absolute shit fuckeroo spews pete. And if you can't tell the difference between the LIFERS and BRASS and the CREW then you can FUCK OFF also. Fuckeroo dishonors and insults ALL post WW2 vets, and then you say he's correct? FUCK YOU YOU PHONY CUNT. FUCK THIS PHONY SITE AND THE PHONY LITTLE HYPOCRITICAL LYING CUNTS WHO INFEST IT. dWARf AND FUCKEROO ARE YOUR KIND OF SLIME AKA STONE. You are welcome to them ALL. What a bunch of little CUNTS. Piss OFF.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
He that hath a froward heart findeth no good: and he that hath a perverse tongue falleth into mischief. 1Hear, ye children, the instruction of a father, and attend to know understanding. 2For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law. 3For I was my father's son, tender and only beloved in the sight of my mother. 4He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live. 5Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth. 6Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee. 7Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. 8Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her. 9She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace: a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee. 10Hear, O my son, and receive my sayings; and the years of thy life shall be many. 11I have taught thee in the way of wisdom; I have led thee in right paths. 12When thou goest, thy steps shall not be straitened; and when thou runnest, thou shalt not stumble. 13Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life. 14Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men. 15Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away. 16For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall. 17For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence. 18But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day. 19The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble. 20My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. 21Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. 22For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh. 23Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life. 24Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee. 25Let thine eyes look right on, and let thine eyelids look straight before thee. 26Ponder the path of thy feet, and let all thy ways be established. 27Turn not to the right hand nor to the left: remove thy foot from evil.
21Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. 22For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh. 23Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life. 24Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee. 25Let thine eyes look right on, and let thine eyelids look straight before thee. 26Ponder the path of thy feet, and let all thy ways be established. 27Turn not to the right hand nor to the left: remove thy foot from evil.
I have always cut you some slack. But no more. Grow up and talk like an adult. Yesterday and before you said that you respected what I said. Today you talk filth. You speak with a forked tongue.
Well, at least you admit that you're biased. I have MD on bozo. He's a flaming retard.
Because the grunts get sent off to die or be maimed for life WITHOUT FOLLOWING CONGRESS FULFILLING IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATIONS. If you want to send people off to fight a war,declare it to be a war.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
For a long time his was the only name on my bozo list. He's kind of exceptional.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
You mean besides the fact that it's a disgusting sexual term that one might expect to hear from an inner city junior high student?
Do you let your kids excuse their bad behavior with arguments like that?
Well, at least you admit that you're biased. From what I've seen Fred, Stone has cut everyone some slack. A lot of slack. Even you.
You seem to have more trouble with the term than you do with an explicit description of the act. I find that very interesting.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
You are 100% WRONG AS USUAL. Teabagger was derogatory term applied by the left to the Tea Party member's early on. Teabagger means someone who gains sexual pleasure by lowering their testicles into someone else's mouth. It's generally a homosexual practice. NO ONE in the Tea Party movement EVER referred to themselves in this way. This was a perverted left-wing smear. Why would the left use this term to discredit the Tea Party movement??? Because the left is HOMOPHOBIC. In the meantime, the FLEA BAGGERS of the PEE PARTY movement have managed to completely discredit the left with their smelly, rotten actions. The left discrediting themselves is a GOOD thing for the country.
The people who died in Omaha Beach were somehow not expendable??? Since the Progressives (socialists) took control of the country before the Great War (mistakenly called WWI), ALL U.S. citizens have become expendable pieces of garbage to the power lords in D.C.
A lot of slack. Even you. Quit kissing butt.
I look at my wife, kids, neighbors, and co-workers... There IS something substantial worth defending there. I make a big distinction between America and the United States. America is a concept, articulated in the Declaration of Independence and insisted upon in the Bill of Rights. At every step of the way, the power hungry politicians of the United States GOVERNMENT have resisted the very concept of America -- a free people governing themselves. You and I actually agree on quite a lot. In this case, we are misunderstanding each other's language. In my view, the United States government is NOT America. I do NOT agree with, uphold or apologize for the actions of Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, George Bush, George Bush Junior, or Barack Obama. I HATE these SOBs. They have destroyed what America is supposed to be about.
Not only are you vulgar, you're wrong. Here's a look at the evolution of the insult: Feb. 27, 2009 At the first anti-stimulus "New American Tea Party" rally in Washington D.C., a protestor carries a sign reading "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems before they Tea Bag You!!" The Washington Independent's David Weigel calls it "the best sign I saw." March 2 Americans for Prosperity, an anti-tax group, is one of the first Tea Party organizations to advocate sending tea bags to elected officials to protest the stimulus package. Several other lobby groups follow suit. April 1 Several Tea Party protest sites encourage readers to "Tea bag the fools in DC." Jay Nordlinger at National Review Online later admits: "Conservatives started [using the term]... but others ran and ran with it." April 9 Rachel Maddow is the first to mock the Tea Party's use of the phrase on her left-leaning MSNBC show. "Even Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina is getting in on the hot tea-bagging action," she says, stifling laughter. (Watch Rachel Maddow joke about the "tea baggers") April 13 David Shuster, filling in for liberal commentator Keith Olbermann on MSNBC, also makes fun of the phrase. "While the parties are officially toothless, the tea-baggers are full-throated about their goals," he says. Jeff Poor at the Business and Media Insitute says that the MSNBC comments are "lost in juvenile criticism and ignoring the reason there is discontent from the conservative base" April 14 Anderson Cooper, on his avowedly non-partisan CNN show, makes a similar crack, but later back-pedals, calling his remark a "stupid, silly, one-line aside" that was not meant to "disparage legitimate protests." September 10 Badges with the message "Proud to be a Tea Bagger" are still on sale at Tea Party events, according to an article written later in the year. November 10 A report in The New York Times claims the President called Tea Partiers "the teabag, anti-government people" prompting the blog Redstate to respond: "Sexual innuendo is inappropriate in political discourse. The Left and their media tools need a soap bar sandwich to clean up their act." December 7 In an article for National Review Online, Jay Nordlinger notes that the word is being used so regularly, it is beginning to lose its pejorative association. "'Tory' and 'Whig' were put-downs when they originated," he notes, and "'Yankee Doodle' was none too nice." However, he suggests conservatives should continue to oppose the "lowdown term." April 14, 2010 Prominent conservative Andrew Breitbart posts a video on the site Big Government in an attempt to reclaim the term. "I'm Proud to be a Tea Bagger" currently has over 90,000 views. May 4 In his book, Alter quotes Obama saying that GOP opposition to the stimulus package "helped to create the tea-baggers." Grover Norquist, president of the Americans for Tax Reform group, compares it to the pejorative use of the N-word.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
I have trouble with both. What is interesting is that you only have trouble with one.
What reason would I have to kiss the butt of some obscure forum owner, on a forum where I rarely post? The truth is the truth Fred. I've always liked you, but if this were my forum, I'd have banned you for some of the insults you've launched. You all get too caught up and take this virtual world way too seriously.
Whatever weeps.
When I hear the word "teabag", I think of paper filter bags filled with tea leaves, not some sexual practice.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
I was talking about the political "bowel" movements of US military troops since WW2, deployed in selected non-declared wars around the world. Your question is about military tactics during WW2 (the last declared war) and should have a different thread altogether.
No one questions your perspective. And, I think just about everyone has similar perspectives for their respective families and so forth. Yet, as a nation, when the US military is tactically and strategically deployed around the world do to political inventiveness and the urgency of both the military and industrial AND government machines how is your family "secure" with these foreign intrusions? Don't you think that the methods of overt and covert hostilities that the US government perpetrates around world based on "national security" and/or "national defense" shall create future enmity and hostilities? I do. And I think that is why 9/11 happened. And, it is going to happen again and again and again because foreign intrusion, adventure and surreptitious acts, indeed minor meddling *IS* a cause of hostility in the first place. Yeah, more precisely called in both documents: the "United States of America" which infers an umbrella federal government which is exactly what I am talking about. Actually, that isn't true at all. Initially, the vision for the national government by the founders (whom also became, to a large extent, the first presidents and other formal leaders) were largely concerned with establishing a democracy with the idea of restraining the monster you are discussing which has morphed into this GIANT GOVERNMENT. Those dead old founders, strumming their harps in heaven and looking down at us must wonder how a People could be so dumb-downed a to permit these shenanigans. I know. Nope. I am very precise is all. I don't like vacuous or otherwise vague discussions and that is what prompted me to guide your thread into different venue altogether. What is it then? Some far off and distant magical pixie dust that is similar to a mythological utopia? This is good news. However, I note that you intentionally left out Ronald Reagan. Shame on you. I don't have that level of passion for these guys that you do. All of them are hypocrites, pure and simple. When they each took their oath in office, they held a KING'S X out.
The truth is the truth Fred. I've always liked you, but if this were my forum, I'd have banned you for some of the insults you've launched. You all get too caught up and take this virtual world way too seriously. Since you admit you rarely post on this forum you have a very incomplete view of the interactions here and by your own expressed standards should keep your banning comments to yourself. When I hear the term "tea bagger' I think of wimpy tea partiers too timid to take back the language. And I realize that correlates directly to the ammount of power tea partiers have in the political arena. And that power will continue to wane. Meaning NO intestinal fortitude when push comes to shove. You guys are a real laugh.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Minor slip up on your part Buck. They didn't want a democracy.
I think it has a lot to do with television. The television kind of sets a national perception of where we are and how the people feel. The internet is changing that to a degree.
I used to think the same. But, it is not true. The goals set forth in establishing the USA were in regards to individual freedoms, liberties and rights based upon an immutable quality that could not be trampled upon. Your use of "they" were the federalists that wanted an elite form of government wherein only those that had distinguished merit in American society could exercise a vote. Madison and Hamilton among others were in this group of folks. But the tug o' war that jwpegler brought out was the integration of the anti-federalist sentiments in 1791 that wanted an explicit incorporation of the BOR, this distinguished group consisted of Jefferson and Washington and many others. In fact, they wanted the clauses of slavery included in the Declaration of Independence in 1776 against King George; it was removed by the Second Continental Congress (third edition) which is the final form. Nope. From the onset of America it is well known about democratic principles even from the founders own original manuscripts which were largely influenced by Locke, Voltaire, Montesquieu and others.
OK. But that has nothing at all to do with some members here calling others 'teabaggers'. Are you OK with that? Or is it just over the line when it's thrown back in the face of the person who is calling others teabaggers? I have nothing against any of you personally, though we surely disagree on some of our political philosophies, but if I were Stone I'd ban the lot of you and start over. I would refuse to admin a forum filled with malcontent, name calling children. I suspect that you'd likely do the same. But I could be wrong since you seem to not see the offense when it comes from friends of yours.
With all due respect, I'll make any comment that I wish to make. Note, that I do not wish to, and in fact do not, use some disgusting sexual reference when I refer to you, and in all of our interactions over the years, that I never have. When I hear the term "tea bagger' I think of wimpy tea partiers too timid to take back the language. And I realize that correlates directly to the ammount of power tea partiers have in the political arena. And that power will continue to wane. Meaning NO intestinal fortitude when push comes to shove. I don't care what you think when you hear anything. The term is disgusting when you use it in the context that you do and should have no place in a political forum, and I know that you know that. You're not stupid. But the fact that you would argue that you're not using the word in the context that you are shows that you DO believe myself and others to be stupid. You simply have a problem discussing views and events without using insults. Exactly like yukon. You guys are a real laugh. I think you also assume too much. But thanks for helping prove my point with snide and condescending comments to the end.
Really? So you'll join me in condemning your BFF mininggold's graphic tagline describing the sexual act then?
Are you OK with that? Or is it just over the line when it's thrown back in the face of the person who is calling others teabaggers? Now you know that the word "teabag" congers up different images for different people. Tea partyers first used the word to describe themselves without realizing that the word had another meaning. When (good family man) JP writes a full on description of a sex act and sends it to a woman, he is in a whole new category of offensive behavior. In general, I'm not a big fan of name calling.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
It wasn't a product of her mind, she didn't write it. What kind of man writes something like that and sends it to a woman?
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
But that woman calling that man a teabagger is not offensive??? If you called me a sodomite, then I described the act, would we both be wrong? On a political forum...YES. Maybe not if we were in some seedy sex chat room.
Remnants of yukon, I suspect.
How many meanings does the word sodomite have? teabagger: multiple meanings. 1) one who carries large bags of packaged tea for shipment. 2) JP's definition 3) one who has a job or talent that is low in social status 4) a person who is unaware that they have said or done something foolish, childlike, noobish, lame, or inconvenient.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Yet you are willing to disparage the poor dead souls from Sodom, many of whom were probably innocent of any wrong doing, but were killed anyway.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
teabagger: multiple meanings. 1) one who carries large bags of packaged tea for shipment. 2) JP's definition 3) one who has a job or talent that is low in social status 4) a person who is unaware that they have said or done something foolish, childlike, noobish, lame, or inconvenient. You can't argue facts with the intellectually lazy. They have a certain comfort level they will defend at all cost.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Apply meaning #4.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
Seriously? THAT is what you have to say in this conversation?
Apply meaning #4. Wow. Ladies, I'm sorry that I tried to have an intelligent conversation with you.
Remnants of yukon, I suspect. LOL!!!!!
IMHO, your argument that using a word that has several meanings, only one of which is sexual, in a context that is not sexual, but could be, maybe, if you're inclined to think that way, is equivalent to describing a sex act and personalizing it, is lame at best.
Wall Street owns the country…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags. The [political] parties lie to us and the political speakers mislead us…Money rules. Mary Elizabeth Lease, 1890
I honestly don't care. If you prefer your political forum to be in the gutter then that is, I'm sure, where it will be. I've tried to show you what you already know, which is that both mininggold's statements as well as Jwpegler's statements are disgusting and have no place in a political forum. But you obviously can't see it. If you want that kind of exchange, then have at it. But you shouldn't then whine when others return the favor.
You are so obviously excusing behavior from one side and condemning it from the other. That's not only ridiculous, it's hypocritical.
So you believe it took place. Good for you. If my memory serves me correctly God said he would not destroy it if there was just ONE good person left there.
I don't care if you call us Tea party folks tea baggers. But be honest you know why you use that phrase.
Bingo!
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
They are already out there, pointless to take them down now. I once gave them a light threat about using that term. Then I thought on it and decided it wasn't worth it. The first time I ever heard that term used was a few years ago while watching the TV show Prison break. My kids used to watch that show. They called the one guy teabag. I let it slide there too. They just thought it was a name.
It's a waste of time. IMHO,lucysmom means well but ain't the most aware person on the planet,and Mining is nothing but a shrill partisan Pod Person. She IS the flip side of Yu-Tard.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
A simple yes or no will suffice.
. Piss OFF stone. All that you are in charge of is this little site, other than that you have ZERO power over me, or the rest of us boy. I don't LIE on purpose. Sometimes I do make mistakes, and then I OWN them, like a MAN does little boy. I surely do use"filthy" language, as a tool to respond/address un/anti/AMERICAN "filthy" crap that other posters don't have the balls to just come out and say. Those people are just like YOU stone. You say FILTH but you say it nice, so it's NOT "Filth"? Right boy? Right. I was an "adult" long before YOU were shitting yellow little boy. I AM "talking like an adult" you little old lady ponce weenie. I respect that THIS is YOUR boat, so you get to make the so called rules and so called enforce them. I don't respect you acting like just another little bitch. Which is exactly what you are when you whine about the "baby boomers". You are just a whiny hypocritical little pussy stone. You let these libTURD vermin push you around here like the little bitch that you really are stone. Soooooo .... FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE ON IN stone. It's YOUR boat bitch. But I don't knowingly ship onto CUNT boats stone. NOW I DO know. Anyway this site is like a downs syndrome gestalt session, lots of "sturm und drang" yet virtually ZERO substance. I REALLY love the way that you whine and cry like the little loser bitch you must really be when you talk about entire generations of people. WE don't owe you shit little boy. NOBODY owes you shit little boy. I'll waste no more time with whiny little bitch frauds such as you. I hope that you grow up someday little boy. Then you'll know that what happens to YOU is entirely YOUR responsibility, nobody else's. After all, you are just another product of this pussyfied society, what the hell would you be expected to know about being a FREE AMERICAN MAN? Not a FUCKING thing. I have ALWAYS cut YOU some slack little boy. No more. Have fun with the rest of these whiny libTURD CUNTS. They are certainly your kind of CUNTS. You are all welcome to each other. I have REAL stuff to actually DO. LMAO!!!!! Feel free to close my account.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
All that you are in charge of is this little site, other than that you have ZERO power over me, or the rest of us boy. I don't LIE on purpose. Sometimes I do make mistakes, and then I OWN them, like a MAN does little boy. I surely do use"filthy" language, as a tool to respond/address un/anti/AMERICAN "filthy" crap that other posters don't have the balls to just come out and say. Those people are just like YOU stone. You say FILTH but you say it nice, so it's NOT "Filth"? Right boy? Hi Mad Dog. Lets address these for you buddy. First I don't want any power over you. I just want people here to behave in a respectful manner. I know I haven't always led by example on that. I never said you lie. If I did I don't recall it. We all make mistakes, people who own up to them and grow impress me. I've seen you respond without all the foul language and it is much more persuasive. I don't know what you mean by I say filth but say it nice. I'm kind of mean sometimes.
I was an "adult" long before YOU were shitting yellow little boy. I AM "talking like an adult" you little old lady ponce weenie. I respect that THIS is YOUR boat, so you get to make the so called rules and so called enforce them. I don't respect you acting like just another little bitch. Which is exactly what you are when you whine about the "baby boomers". You are just a whiny hypocritical little pussy stone. You let these libTURD vermin push you around here like the little bitch that you really are stone. Ok your next points Ok you're older then me. I'm not a ponce weenie, whatever that is. You say I act like a bitch. Howso? My dad is a baby boomer. I do see a lot of boomers as selfish though. They also by in large turn a blind eye to some of the changes that have happened and they still think it is the old America. That is a generalization but I think accurate. I did let some libs say some things about me and other posters here. I was trying to be fair and let everyone say what they wanted to. I've since grown and realize that a civilized conversation is preferable and more effective. I'm not saying I am going to wack everyone who says something foul or insults something. I'm first going to try and persuade folks here to take the high road. I may try to put these rules that are in my head in writing at some point. Maybe not.
But I don't knowingly ship onto CUNT boats stone. NOW I DO know. Anyway this site is like a downs syndrome gestalt session, lots of "sturm und drang" yet virtually ZERO substance. But you've added lots of substance. No really you have. Minus a few curse words.
WE don't owe you shit little boy. NOBODY owes you shit little boy. You're are correct you don't owe me shit. Here is a question for you. Do people working today owe baby boomers social security money? I would say no, their labor belongs to them and them alone.
I hope that you grow up someday little boy. Then you'll know that what happens to YOU is entirely YOUR responsibility, nobody else's. What have I whined about? I don't know what this responsibility rant is all about. Can you link it to something I've said. That way I will understand you.
Not a FUCKING thing. I have ALWAYS cut YOU some slack little boy. No more. Have fun with the rest of these whiny libTURD CUNTS. There are only liberals here? lol Should I ban all these liberals?
LMAO!!!!! Good luck with your real stuff that you have to do. Now run along little girl. Just kidding ok.
Just before the lights are turned off on the channel, I see we have a manager starting to realize that there are a lot of good posters here, including that rabid dawg. I won't comment on his problem(s) as he knows the same from many other poster's comments. Still, it appears you are turning around and starting to realize that some good talent has been chased off.
If trying to set up some standards and not being told to bite me or suck me by posters, chase them off. Then so be it. What happened to chan anyways? War made some comment a while back that hinted that he ran him off. That is the way I took it anyway. If there is one poster who hasn't been posting here recently that I like. It would be Chan. I like Biff too.
I have no plans EVER to turn the lights off on this place. What happened to FU by the way. RIP FU. Take care Bret.
HEY! I got an idea for you. Why not make a pledge to ALL posters to not show your unwarranted wrath based upon NO standards at all? You have no benchmarks for behaviour at all other than from time to time your made up rules that quickly fade away into obscurity until YOU feel like some form of reaffirmation of channel POWER. Because of your methods, you have insulted a lot of fine folks that thought they could exchange ideas on LF; it is all YOUR fault, as there are no formal rules of posting interchange engagement at all. How long has this channel been in operation? "Better late than never," to use an old cliché.
Because of your methods, you have insulted a lot of fine folks that thought they could exchange ideas on LF; it is all YOUR fault, as there are no formal rules of posting interchange engagement at all. How long has this channel been in operation? "Better late than never," to use an old cliché. I've never used a set of written rules because I don't think I can get it right on paper. It is a good idea though. How about some proposals from you and the other posters. I'll try to work on it some this week. Since I broke my foot I have a bit more time.
Did you fall off a roof?
Did you fall off a roof? I was on a ladder about 15 foot up. The ladder was on concrete. I should have known better. The ladder slipped off the roof with me on it. It is a minor fracture. It could have been a lot worse. Doc said 2 or 3 weeks.
You poor thing. I guess there is no turkey, taters, yukon and some self-proclaimed captain going to sing a song for you this year. HA!
I haven't seen squat on Liberty Forum about Veteran's Day.
Maybe there aren't any veterans our here except me.
By the way, if another 1960s hippy dippy turned neo-con war monger (like Michael Medved) "thanks me for my service" I am going to throw up...
#2. To: buckeroo (#1)
(Edited)
I haven't seen squat on Liberty Forum about Veteran's Day.
In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. - Voltaire (1764)
#3. To: jwpegler (#2)
However, America is absolutely worth defending.
I've been in 26 countries. I've been in many of those countries several times each.
I have great respect for some of those countries. I also know that America is worth defending.
I understand that you were drafted and I don't agree with that.
My view is that only free people can defend a free society.
I am at least at decade younger than you. As a result, we have a different perspective.
I volunteered. It was the best decision I ever made.
You were drafted and it was horrible.
The neo-cons never served, so they agitate for war. I think that we can both agree that this is wrong.
I hope that you can agree that America is worth defending and that people who volunteer to defend America are worth celebrating.
#4. To: jwpegler (#0)
If you are a veteran, please respond with you your branch, base, unit, and dates of service.
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!!
#5. To: CZ82 (#4)
Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning
#6. To: Fred Mertz (#5)
Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning My unit is under performing.
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!!
#7. To: jwpegler, Mad Dog, Liberator (#0)
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I haven't seen squat on Liberty Forum about Veteran's Day.
...smashed up and wrecked .....still were able to lay the hurt on the superior Japanese naval force. Single destroyers with bridge/ CIC destroyed,...fired independent turret and torpedo attack. wiki excerpt:[ a different battle....but same spirit!]
On 6 October 1943 Chevalier, O'Bannon, and Selfridge (DD-357) intercepted nine Japanese destroyers and destroyer transports attempting to evacuate troops from Vella Lavella, Solomon Islands. Although greatly outnumbered, the American destroyers attacked. After firing half of their torpedoes and scoring several hits with gunfire, the group continued to steam into the line of fire of enemy torpedoes in order to keep their own guns bearing. At approximately 22:05 Chevalier was struck on the port bow by an enemy torpedo which tore her bow off to the bridge, throwing the ship entirely out of control. The destroyer O'Bannon which was following Chevalier could not avoid the damaged destroyer and rammed her in the after engine room, flooding that space and stopping Chevalier's port shaft. While making preparations to abandon ship, Chevalier's skipper ordered the torpedoes in her tubes to be fired at the Japanese destroyer Yugumo. The burning Japanese ship blew up soon after. By 23:26 it was apparent that Chevalier could not be saved and the order was given to abandon Ship. Her crew was picked up by O'Bannon's boats, and Chevalier was sunk the following day by a torpedo from the USS La Vallette.
Parrot: here is at least one poster who gets it....others are Uber hair on fire...who do not like history revised.
The Graff Spee never would have won because her captain and crew lacked the resolve of the British navy. The Spee ran rather than fought. If the Captain of the Rawalpindi had been in charge of the Spee the outcome may have been different because when his AMC with 8 x 6in was told to surrender to the Gneisenau and Scharnhorst with 9 x11in and 16x 5.9in apiece he turned into them and attacked rather than run or surrender.
#8. To: jwpegler (#0)
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!!
#9. To: jwpegler (#0)
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#10. To: jwpegler (#0)
(Edited)
#11. To: Parrot with speed dial, jwpegler, Liberator (#7)
Parrot: On this Veterans day...we remember the Spirit of the fighting men of the U.S.,....who would not quit in the face of the insurmountable,....who fought till the very last,...who changed the outcome of battle which appeared defeat.
#12. To: Mad Dog, Parrot with speed dial, jwpegler, Liberator (#11)
No matter what, it's ALWAYS about THEM.
#13. To: buckeroo (#12)
(Edited)
In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. - Voltaire (1764)
#14. To: jwpegler (#13)
America is worth defending.
#15. To: buckeroo (#14)
America is worth defending.
#16. To: buckeroo (#14)
America's foreign and domestic policies are NOT in keeping with the US Constitution. So answer my question. What is worth defending? Millions can't even get a job in this GODDAMNED nation anymore.
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!!
#17. To: A K A Stone, jwpegler, all (#15)
How long have you thought this way buckeroo?
#18. To: buckeroo (#17)
How long have you thought this way buckeroo?
#19. To: A K A Stone, jwpegler (#18)
#20. To: buckeroo (#19)
Probably longer than you have been walking or breathing aire upon the planet
#21. To: buckeroo (#19)
Now, answer my thoughtful questions originally posed to jwpegler.
#22. To: buckeroo (#3)
So what? Why does America have its nose up every asshole around the world?
#23. To: A K A Stone (#20)
Then why did you join the minutemen?
#24. To: A K A Stone, jwpegler (#21)
He probably posted this article because he is a veteran and was thinking about it.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#22)
Because those in power perceive there to be threats.
#26. To: CZ82 (#16)
If it makes you feel any better there are a lot of people that think we need to get rid of about 95% of the politicians in this country.....
#27. To: buckeroo (#25)
Because those in power perceive there to be threats.
#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)
A nuclear Iran is a threat if you believe it or not.
#29. To: buckeroo (#28)
#30. To: A K A Stone (#29)
I think Iran is a direct threat.
#31. To: Fred Mertz (#30)
#32. To: buckeroo, Mad Dog, jwpegler, Liberator (#12)
No matter what, it's ALWAYS about THEM.
Take your pick of any branch of service,...there is much that brings honor and pride to a Nation.
War and potential conflict is the reality of life on this planet.
You want your Nations Military to be zenith capable....so you can have security.
Have a society which endures.
He or She is expendable....that is already understood.
#33. To: Parrot with speed dial (#32)
A Veterans Day thread should focus on the Veteran.
#34. To: A K A Stone (#31)
Do you think that they will never have missiles that can reach America?
#35. To: buckeroo (#23)
hen why did you join the minutemen?
#36. To: A K A Stone (#29)
Do you see Israel as a direct thread? Or indirect?
#37. To: Fred Mertz (#34)
Do you think that they will never have missiles that can reach America?
#38. To: buckeroo (#36)
#39. To: A K A Stone (#37)
(Edited)
I don't think any muslim nation should have nukes.
#40. To: A K A Stone (#38)
We give more to arab nations then Israel in foreign aid.
#41. To: Fred Mertz (#39)
I don't think any muslim nation should have nukes.
#42. To: buckeroo (#33)
(Edited)
What benefits does an ungracious America bestow upon a veteran? If you are DEAD, you get a 200 dollar wooden crate and a kick in the ass. If you are still alive, you have your kick in the ass still coming.
The career is danger danger every day.
If you make it to retirement...or in my case,....receive disability cover which you pay into,
and in my case.....you have 2 eye's both feet and hands,...and the family Jewels
You Win!
I was also a Senior Rescue First Aid,.....must have spent 1/4 of my working time managing traumatic blood loss,steel melted into workers eye's ,....even death on the jobsite.
You either have it.....or you wash out.
Some cannot take being around the carnage for too long.
So ya...for me..its a sort of steady on steady....it happens...sometimes more than one person is seriously injured and going into shock.
The Medical soldier type at say Iwo Jima,Tarawa,Okinawa must have nearly wrecked their minds with that reality.
These shops are mugu dangerous....big sheets of steel fall,...equipment explodes
Pulled a shattered and glowing 1 inch drill bit out of a workers gut while he was screaming and his flesh was burning.....like some Vietnam war movie!
Was thanked by my buddies on the job site for taking care of them.
and when I was no longer able to do my job,...the system said thankyou,,,,and here's your coverage.
I'm a Lucky dog for sure : )
My Union [Boilermakers AFL CIO] builds your surface warships,submarines,nuclear reactors,mines.
Lots to be Proud of!.....doing something useful with your life.
Some people think I'm nothing ..like they think a serviceman in the Military is nothing.
There will always be these poofy types who have no clue how a nation truly runs and who is really making it run well.
Too often the Politician and the Banker/ Corporate type get the praise which is due others.
Life is an adventure...and here...you get to choose the adventure : )
#43. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Iran attacks other nations through surrogates. They hope to change that with nuclear weapons.
Being basically a tribal clan reality....once enlarged to a nations status,...the history of the ME reveals a littany of betrayals and intrigues as nations/kingdoms march out on others since the days of Sargon.
and ..under the laws of Islam,...contend with all Infidel...regardless.
They are smart enough to know others would turn them into the glass parking lot.
Having a threat medium ..such as a nuclear weapon is no different than having seige towers,an Army of 200,000
Its how they identify with power and keep their people in line.
and besides....why give your potential enemy in battle a heads up to prepare?
If Israel gets into a donnybrook with Iran or any of their kook surrogates and things go south,....they had it coming for being so bloody stupid and arrogant.
In my thinking....Religion is one of the prime reasons nations and peoples can't and will likely never get along.
Its a trap....you identify with your god and follow the programing.
If you Believe the whole world will go to shit and few will survive....guess what,..it probably nearly happens.
Fatalist thinking...
Israel should let the Palies have their state,....even a quarter of Jerusalem.
Make the compromise and develop your nation.
If the neighbor comes to attack you,.....then you defeat them in a way which removes them doing it again [yes...you get severe here]
Iran could only cobble together a low yield nuke.
] Israel would survive....and then could react with force and redraw the map in their region.
You have too!..others watching must learn,..others joining in against you must be taught the lesson.
Nations which go around smashing up others usually have the fatal day arrive for them,...and they vanish to the sands of time.
either act absolves me of wrong,...for the act reveals intent,....and with nuclear weapons...you don't point them at others and play games.
The globalists are Insane...and would luv more world chaos to profit from.
Israels leaders should know better,...but then,..its suspected they are sock puppets.
The Iran drama could be a means for oil pigs to run prices up and bankers/stock market to exploit by fear for profit.
It could be to help keep Barky in for 4 more.....or seat a RINO who will continue the Globalism.
sending the world careening into chaos and war which could become WW-3 over possibly 1 low yield nuke is not worth it.
I know Irans leaders are crazy,....but the Globalists are more crazy.
#44. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Iran attacks other nations through surrogates.
#45. To: buckeroo (#12)
#46. To: Mad Dog (#45)
Veteran's Day is about ALL VETERANS and the SACRIFICES THEY have made
#47. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone, jwpegler, all (#17)
How long have you thought this way buckeroo? I want to know why jwpegler doesn't answer my questions or even yourself or anyone?
#48. To: buckeroo (#46)
Veteran's Day is about ALL VETERANS and the SACRIFICES THEY have made
#49. To: Mad Dog (#47)
AMERICA is GOOD
#50. To: Mad Dog (#48)
#51. To: Parrot with speed dial (#32)
All they request...is one honors their service.
#52. To: buckeroo (#49)
AMERICA is GOOD How is modern America "good?" Explain your point of view. Cite examples of where American government interference around the world since WW2 has been "good." Even as recently as Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya, America has lied out its teeth killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the name of "Democracy." What does "Democracy" have to do with America?
#53. To: buckeroo (#50)
If "vets" since WW2 are such AWESOME soldiers, how is it that in South Korea, those that died were wrapped in UN flags? And in Iraq, the American government was so ashamed of those that died, there were no publick pictures AT ALL of those brought back?
#54. To: Mad Dog (#52)
AMERICA is GOOD, (pick a BETTER country you gibbering fraud) and it is OUR HOME
#55. To: buckeroo (#14)
In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. - Voltaire (1764)
#56. To: Mad Dog (#53)
how does AMERICA = the feral gooberment
#57. To: jwpegler (#55)
America
is WAS worth defending.
#58. To: buckeroo (#54)
#59. To: Mad Dog (#58)
have given up on AMERICA
#60. To: buckeroo (#56)
md; how does AMERICA = the feral gooberment?
#61. To: buckeroo (#59)
have given up on AMERICA [sic]
#62. To: Mad Dog (#60)
how does AMERICA = the feral gooberment?
#63. To: Mad Dog (#61)
AMERICA IS DOOMED!
#64. To: buckeroo (#62)
(Edited)
the question was "how does AMERICA = the feral gooberment?"
#65. To: buckeroo (#63)
(Edited)
standard fuckeroo cunt loser bitch whining and bitching
#66. To: Mad Dog (#65)
#67. To: Mad Dog (#65)
#68. To: A K A Stone (#67)
#69. To: Mad Dog (#68)
TRUTH is an ABSOLUTE defense.
#12. To: Mad Dog, Parrot with speed dial, jwpegler, Liberator (#11)
#70. To: A K A Stone, war, skip intro, mininggold, Brian S, sneakypete, lucysmom (#66)
We are cleaning this place up.
cleaning clearing this place up out.
#71. To: Fred Mertz (#70)
We are cleaning this place up.
#72. To: Fred Mertz (#70)
#73. To: A K A Stone, jwpegler (#72)
Do you believe in standards?
#74. To: buckeroo, Mad Dog, Parrot with speed dial, jwpegler, Liberator (#69)
Since WW2, the US military machine is considered an expendable piece of garbage; that is the common man is convinced to goto warzones around the world and that they may die fighting for NOTHING, their coffins are often draped in some sort of voo-doo called the UN or SEATO or NATO or some other sort of BS.
#75. To: lucysmom (#73)
Have you read mininggold's tag line? How can you allow jwpegler to get away with stuff like that?
#76. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#75)
#77. To: lucysmom (#76)
#78. To: Fred Mertz (#77)
I think he meant standard deviations.
#79. To: lucysmom (#73)
Have you read mininggold's tag line? How can you allow jwpegler to get away with stuff like that?
#80. To: A K A Stone (#79)
I think he posted it in response to her continually using the word teabagger.
#81. To: lucysmom (#80)
I think he posted it in response to her continually using the word teabagger.
#82. To: We The People (#81)
But calling people teabaggers is acceptable?
#83. To: We The People (#81)
But calling people teabaggers is acceptable?
#84. To: buckeroo (#69)
#85. To: sneakypete, AKA STONE (#74)
#86. To: Mad Dog (#85)
#87. To: Mad Dog (#85)
My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.
#88. To: Mad Dog (#85)
#89. To: A K A Stone (#88)
I have always cut you some slack.
#90. To: Mad Dog (#85)
Hey how does any of THAT affect the actual GRUNTS?
#91. To: Fred Mertz (#89)
I have MD on bozo. He's a flaming retard.
#92. To: mininggold (#82)
What's wrong with it?
#93. To: lucysmom (#83)
Tea party members started out calling themselves teabaggers.
#94. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#89)
(Edited)
I have always cut you some slack.
#95. To: We The People (#92)
You mean besides the fact that it's a disgusting sexual term that one might expect to hear from an inner city junior high student?
#96. To: lucysmom (#83)
(Edited)
Tea party members started out calling themselves teabaggers.
In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. - Voltaire (1764)
#97. To: buckeroo (#69)
(Edited)
Since WW2, the US military machine is considered an expendable piece of garbage
In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. - Voltaire (1764)
#98. To: We The People (#94)
From what I've seen Fred, Stone has cut everyone some slack.
#99. To: buckeroo (#57)
I corrected your error. You can go back to sleep, now.
In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. - Voltaire (1764)
#100. To: jwpegler (#96)
NO ONE in the Tea Party movement EVER referred to themselves in this way.
#101. To: lucysmom (#95)
You seem to have more trouble with the term than you do with an explicit description of the act. I find that very interesting.
#102. To: Fred Mertz, All (#98)
#103. To: We The People (#102)
#104. To: We The People (#101)
I have trouble with both. What is interesting is that you only have trouble with one.
#105. To: jwpegler (#97)
The people who died in Omaha Beach were somehow not expendable???
#106. To: jwpegler, sneakypete (#99)
I look at my wife, kids, neighbors, and co-workers...
There IS something substantial worth defending there.
I make a big distinction between America and the United States.
America is a concept, articulated in the Declaration of Independence and insisted upon in the Bill of Rights.
At every step of the way, the power hungry politicians of the United States GOVERNMENT have resisted the very concept of America -- a free people governing themselves.
You and I actually agree on quite a lot.
In this case, we are misunderstanding each other's language.
In my view, the United States government is NOT America.
I do NOT agree with, uphold or apologize for the actions of Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, George Bush, George Bush Junior, or Barack Obama.
I HATE these SOBs. They have destroyed what America is supposed to be about.
#107. To: We The People (#102)
at reason would I have to kiss the butt of some obscure forum owner, on a forum where I rarely post?
#108. To: buckeroo (#106)
were largely concerned with establishing a democracy
#109. To: buckeroo (#106)
Those dead old founders, strumming their harps in heaven and looking down at us must wonder how a People could be so dumb-downed a to permit these shenanigans.
#110. To: A K A Stone (#108)
They didn't want a democracy.
#111. To: lucysmom (#104)
When I hear the word "teabag", I think of paper filter bags filled with tea leaves, not some sexual practice.
#112. To: mininggold (#107)
Since you admit you rarely post on this forum you have a very incomplete view of the interactions here and by your own expressed standards should keep your banning comments to yourself.
#113. To: lucysmom, AKA stone (#104)
When I hear the word "teabag", I think of paper filter bags filled with tea leaves, not some sexual practice.
#114. To: We The People, (#111)
OK. But that has nothing at all to do with some members here calling others 'teabaggers'.
#115. To: Thunderbird (#113)
So you'll join me in condemning your BFF mininggold's graphic tagline describing the sexual act then?
#116. To: lucysmom (#114)
When (good family man) JP writes a full on description of a sex act and sends it to a woman, he is in a whole new category of offensive behavior.
#117. To: We The People, yukon (#116)
Maybe not if we were in some seedy sex chat room.
#118. To: We The People (#116)
If you called me a sodomite, then I described the act, would we both be wrong?
#119. To: We The People (#116)
(Edited)
If you called me a sodomite, then I described the act, would we both be wrong?
#120. To: lucysmom (#118)
How many meanings does the word sodomite have?
#121. To: mininggold (#120)
#122. To: mininggold (#119)
Yet you are willing to disparage the poor dead souls from Sodom, many of whom were probably innocent of any wrong doing, but were killed anyway.
#123. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#121)
You can't argue facts with the intellectually lazy. They have a certain comfort level they will defend at all cost.
#124. To: buckeroo (#117)
Maybe not if we were in some seedy sex chat room.
#125. To: We The People (#123)
Ladies, I'm sorry that I tried to have an intelligent conversation with you.
#126. To: lucysmom (#125)
#127. To: lucysmom (#125)
#128. To: mininggold (#119)
Yet you are willing to disparage the poor dead souls from Sodom, many of whom were probably innocent of any wrong doing, but were killed anyway.
#129. To: mininggold (#120)
You can't argue facts with the intellectually lazy. They have a certain comfort level they will defend at all cost.
#130. To: We The People, mininggold, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#112)
You simply have a problem discussing views and events without using insults. Exactly like yukon.
#131. To: We The People (#126)
are disgusting and have no place in a political forum.
#132. To: We The People, lucysmom, mininggold (#123)
Ladies, I'm sorry that I tried to have an intelligent conversation with you.
#133. To: lucysmom (#115)
So you'll join me in condemning your BFF mininggold's graphic tagline describing the sexual act then?
#134. To: A K A Stone (#88)
#135. To: Mad Dog (#134)
woof, woof!
#136. To: Mad Dog (#134)
Piss OFF stone.
#137. To: Mad Dog (#134)
Right.
#138. To: Mad Dog (#134)
It's YOUR boat bitch.
#139. To: Mad Dog (#134)
I REALLY love the way that you whine and cry like the little loser bitch you must really be when you talk about entire generations of people.
#140. To: Mad Dog (#134)
I'll waste no more time with whiny little bitch frauds such as you.
#141. To: Mad Dog (#134)
After all, you are just another product of this pussyfied society, what the hell would you be expected to know about being a FREE AMERICAN MAN?
#142. To: Mad Dog (#134)
I have REAL stuff to actually DO.
#143. To: A K A Stone (#136)
We all make mistakes, people who own up to them and grow impress me.
#144. To: buckeroo (#143)
#145. To: buckeroo (#143)
Just before the lights are turned off on the channel
#146. To: A K A Stone (#144)
If trying to set up some standards and not being told to bite me or suck me by posters, chase them off. Then so be it.
#147. To: buckeroo (#146)
HEY! I got an idea for you. Why not make a pledge to ALL posters to not show your unwarranted wrath based upon NO standards at all? You have no benchmarks for behaviour at all other than from time to time your made up rules that quickly fade away into obscurity until YOU feel like some form of reaffirmation of channel POWER.
#148. To: A K A Stone (#147)
Since I broke my foot I have a bit more time.
#149. To: buckeroo (#148)
Since I broke my foot I have a bit more time.
#150. To: A K A Stone (#149)
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