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Title: Israel Considers Pre-Emptive Attack On Iran
Source: SkyNewsHD
URL Source: http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16101552
Published: Nov 2, 2011
Author: Emma Hurd, Middle East correspondent
Post Date: 2011-11-02 17:18:15 by Murron
Keywords: None
Views: 3264
Comments: 19

Israel Considers Pre-Emptive Attack On Iran

Israel's Prime Minister Netanyahu (L) is understood to be calling for military action against Iran

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is trying to rally support in his cabinet for an attack on Iran, according to government sources. The country's defence minister Ehud Barak and the foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman are said to be among those backing a pre-emptive strike to neutralise Iran's nuclear ambitions.

But a narrow majority of ministers currently oppose the move, which could trigger a wave of regional retaliation.

The debate over possible Israeli military action has reached fever pitch in recent days with newspaper leader columns discussing the benefits and dangers of hitting Iran.

Mr Lieberman responded to the reports of a push to gain cabinet approval by saying that "Iran poses the most dangerous threat to world order."

But he said Israel's military options should not be a matter for public discussion.

The reactor at the Russian-built Bushehr nuclear power plant where Iran has began to unload fuel for the nuclear power plant

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is due to report on the state of Iran’s nuclear capabilities on November 8, and that assessment is likely to influence Israel’s decision.

Western intelligence officials estimate that Iran is still at least two to three years away from obtaining a nuclear bomb.

Israel has long made it clear that it will not allow Iran to obtain a nuclear capability that could threaten the Jewish State.

Publicly it is pushing for a diplomatic offensive against Iran - including the imposition of sanctions - rather than a military strike.

But prime minister Netanyahu has repeatedly warned that all options are on the table.

Israel's former defence minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer told Haraatez newspaper that he feared a "horror scenario" if Israel attacked Iran.

Washington is also strongly opposed to Israel taking unilateral action.

Any strike on Iran could trigger retaliation from Iran and across the region.

Syria, a close ally of Tehran, could also launch attacks, along with the Iranian-backed Hizbollah militia in Lebanon. (2 images)

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#1. To: Murron (#0)

I despise this Israeli nation, anymore; they have categorically denied their responsibilities to the ME. I used to give them some slack, too. But this is a FUCKING OUTRAGE.

I hope the UN, SEATO, NATO, the ME..... BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF THEM! FUCK THEM AND THEIR WOMEN! KILL THEIR FIRST BORN! SHOOT EVERYONE OF THESE MUTHER FUCKING WAR GOONS!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-11-02   18:26:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Murron (#0)

Any strike on Iran could trigger retaliation from Iran and across the region.

Ya think?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-11-02   19:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Murron (#0)

Israel Considers Pre-Emptive Attack On Iran

Great! Let all the ME fundie extremists kill each other, as long as we, as a nation, stay out of it.

We The People  posted on  2011-11-02   21:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: We The People (#3)

Great! Let all the ME fundie extremists kill each other, as long as we, as a nation, stay out of it.

Israel is our ONLY ally in the ME, do you think that if those savages destroyed Israel and it's people that they would suddenly become your best friend?

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Murron  posted on  2011-11-02   23:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Murron (#4)

None of them are friends of mine and I don't need any of them be my friend.

I need them to leave my nation, my family and myself out of their thousand year old blood feud and to stop sucking from my governments teat.

We The People  posted on  2011-11-03   5:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#1) (Edited)

I despise this Israeli nation, anymore; they have categorically denied their responsibilities to the ME. I used to give them some slack, too. But this is a FUCKING OUTRAGE.

Lots of people who hate God hate Israel. Take a look at 4um they are mostly nazi pieces of shit. Is that what you aspire to?

It sucks.

But from Israels perspective they have been threatened to be wiped off the map by Hamas, PLO, Iran, etc.

For them to sit back and let their enemies (who have threatened to wipe them off the map) develop weapons capable of doing just that, would be foolish. Iran is an evil nation. Go look at some of the stuff they have on youtube and you will come to the same condlusion.

Look we shouldn't be over there in the Middle East. It isn't our battle. But for Israel to protect itself from extermination. They will do what they have to do.

Buckeroo this stuff was foretold in the Bible. If you believe it or not makes no difference. A bigger war is coming.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-03   7:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#1)

I hope the UN, SEATO, NATO, the ME..... BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF THEM! FUCK THEM AND THEIR WOMEN! KILL THEIR FIRST BORN! SHOOT EVERYONE OF THESE MUTHER FUCKING WAR GOONS!

Hitler would be proud of you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-03   7:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#1)

From the loving peaceful Utopia of Iran.

CHINA-IRAN MISSILE SALES

China is continuing to provide advanced missiles and other conventional arms to Iran and may be doing so in violation of U.N. sanctions against the Tehran regime, according to a draft report by the congressional U.S.-China Commission.

“China continues to provide Iran with what could be considered advanced conventional weapons,” the report of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission says.

According to the report, which will be made public Nov. 16, China sold $312 million worth of arms to Iran, second only to Russia, after Congress passed the Iran Freedom Support Act in 2006 that allows the U.S. government to sanction foreign companies that provide advanced arms to Iran.

The report also noted that, after Russia began cutting back arms transfers to Iran in 2008, China became the largest arms supplier to the Iranian military.

Most of the weapons transfers involved sales of Chinese anti-ship cruise missiles, including C-802 missiles that China promised the United States in 1997 would not be exported to Iran.

China also built an entire missile plant in Iran last year to produce the Nasr-1 anti-ship cruise missile.

“Because of the relatively short range of these missiles, China’s provision of them to Iran does not violate the Iran, North Korea and Syria Nonproliferation Act of 2006, which seeks to prevent the transfer of only those missiles that can carry a 500-kilogram warhead more than 300 kilometers,” the report says.

“It is possible, however, that these transactions violate the Iran Freedom Support Act, or the Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability and Divestment Act of 2010, which both use the ambiguous term ‘advanced conventional weapons.’ “

Regarding China’s professed claims to have ended all backing for Iran’s nuclear- and ballistic-missile programs, the report says “there has been speculation that China, or Chinese entities, have quietly continued to provide some support for Iran’s pursuit of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missile capabilities.”

The report says China also is supporting North Korea’s military and providing economic and technical assistance to Pyongyang.

The report concludes: “Despite Beijing’s stated claim to be acting as a responsible major power, China continues to place its national interests ahead of regional stability by providing economic and diplomatic support to countries that undermine international security.”

Chinese Embassy spokesman Wang Baodong denied China violated U.N. sanctions.

“When it comes to the issue of nonproliferation, China has been strictly adhering to the relevant U.N. resolutions and faithfully carries out its international obligations while strictly implementing its relevant domestic policies and regulations in the field.”

He said the commission “should cast off its Cold War mentality, respect the facts and stop making unwarranted allegations against China.”

MISSILE DEFENSE LIMITS

The Obama administration, despite public claims to the contrary, appears ready to try and limit U.S. missile defenses in agreements, according to a key House Republican leader.

Rep. Michael R. Turner, Ohio Republican and chairman of the House Armed Services strategic forces subcommittee, said during a hearing Wednesday that he is concerned the administration is working to amend the NATO-Russia Council charter “to create guarantees regarding missile defense.”

“That has no support here and should be a nonstarter,” Mr. Turner said in a prepared statement for the hearing.

The charter outlines relations between Russia’s government and NATO members for the council, which was created in 2002 as part of the alliance.

Moscow, for the past several years, has been demanding legal guarantees that U.S. missile defenses in Europe will not be used to target Russian missiles - guarantees that missile defense advocates say would limit U.S. defenses.

CHINA LINKED TO RSA ATTACK

Computer hackers in China likely carried out the sophisticated cyber-attack against the security company RSA in March, according to the draft annual report of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission.

RSA announced in March that its security product was compromised through a cyber-intrusion. The company provides encryption services that allow government and contractor users to log on remotely to secure computer networks.

“Although the company did not name China specifically, subsequent research demonstrated that components of the attack utilized a tool called ‘HTran,’ developed by a well-known member of the hacking group ‘Honker Union of China,’ ” the report says.

Analysis of the hacking tool revealed that the attackers tried to mask their location by routing command instructions from mainland China through computer servers in Japan, Taiwan, Europe and the United States, the report says.

“The perpetrators then used information about the compromised RSA security product in order to target a number of the firm’s customers, including at least three prominent entities within the U.S. defense industrial base,” the report adds, noting that those intrusions and intrusion attempts “also originated in China and appeared to be state-sponsored.”

Because the attack involved stealing technology that involved encryption and coding technologies, computer experts have said the sophistication was beyond the abilities of most nonstate hackers.

NORTH KOREA TWEETS

The communist government in North Korea has taken to Twitter. According to U.S. officials, a North Korean government-linked Twitter account has been operating daily since August 2010.

The Pyongyang account, @uriminzok puts out a steady stream of messages on Twitter, mainly to highlight content from a North Korean propaganda website aimed at overseas Koreans.

The website is run out of Shenyang, China, and operated by North Korea’s United Front Department of the Workers’ Party of Korea, a quasi-intelligence and influence organization. The department appears to be connected to North Korean efforts directed against rival South Korea.

According to U.S. officials, the North Koreans appear to regard Twitter and other social media as an additional channel to spread propaganda extolling dictator Kim Jong-il and other aspects of the communist regime.

U.S. intelligence agencies have been monitoring activity on the account and uncovered some interesting patterns.

For example, the account went silent after South Korean hackers broke into it and were able to shut it down for two months. The account resumed its tweets March 5.

Activity has ranged from as few as three tweets a day to as many as 30.

Most of the Korean-language tweets link to North Korean propaganda articles, many of which extol the “Dear Leader” Kim, and other propaganda.

GAME ON

The Army will not be run over by those in Congress and in the Pentagon who want to cancel its next-generation all-purpose vehicle.

At a cost of $54 billion, the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) is a ripe target for budget-cutters in this age of finding ways to reduce the ballooning federal deficit.

A Senate subcommittee already has voted to defund. There are also Pentagon political appointees who would knock it out of the next five-year budget, says Washington Times reporter Rowan Scarborough.

But the Army is standing firm, saying it must have a solider-protected armored vehicle to ferry ground forces amid the dangers of improvised explosive devices and rocket-propelled grenades.

It would replace the venerable, but more vulnerable, Humvee, a jeeplike vehicle not originally designed to survive the types of roadside bombs exploding in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli, the Army’s vice chief of staff, told the House Armed Services subcommittee on readiness that the service needs time to develop the JLTV and see if it makes better sense than continuing to buy refortified Humvees.

“I just think it’s absolutely essential that we be allowed to continue that critical work, or we will end up with a force that is not modernized,” he said. “And a force that is not modernized is an unbalanced force, and in the end it will cost us lives.”

The Army is not just talking. Weeks before Gen. Chiarelli testified, it issued a draft request for proposal to industry to show what they would produce if they won the JLTV production contract.

Loren B. Thompson, who heads the Lexington Institute, said the Army already has canceled new missile and communications systems, and may now be forced to give up the 70-mph, all-terrain JLTV.

“Does anybody in the Obama Administration understand that killing such programs nearly guarantees soldiers will die unnecessarily in future wars?” Mr. Thompson wrote in a column, “The Cloud Hanging Over America’s Army.”

“Since coming into office, it has presided over the cancellation of nearly two dozen next-generation vehicles, munitions, communications links and other combat systems that would have helped America’s soldiers to survive and win in future wars.

“To make matters worse, it has tightened up on contracting terms to such a degree that defense companies aren’t even sure they want to participate in the programs that remain. The arsenal of the future is disappearing with each passing month, and today’s savings are being bought at the expense of tomorrow’s soldiers.”

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/2/inside-the-ring-308062640/?page=all#pagebreak

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-11-03   7:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Murron (#4)

Israel is our ONLY ally in the ME

After all the money we've spent in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc etc etc?

And if Israel is our "ally"..no wonder we have the enemies that we do...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-11-03   7:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#9) (Edited)

After all the money we've spent in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc etc etc?

Since we supply the defense forces for Saudi Arabia I would have to assume that we consider them an ally and worth protecting too.

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mininggold  posted on  2011-11-03   10:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mininggold (#10)

Poppy's casus belli for his Iraq war was to protect SA from that Evile Dick- a-tator Saddam.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-11-03   10:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#9)

And if Israel is our "ally"..no wonder we have the enemies that we do...

Isn't (wasn't) Turkey our ally? What about Egypt?

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lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-03   10:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#12)

Yea...she said something stupid...again.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-11-03   10:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#11) (Edited)

Poppy's casus belli for his Iraq war was to protect SA from that Evile Dick- a-tator Saddam.

Yeah, I remember that too, It went something like "if Kuwait fell, SA would be next".

They love to pull those dominoes out of a hat.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-03   10:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war, Murron (#13)

Yea...she said something stupid...again.

I can see why she admires Israel though. It practices a form of dictatorial communism.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-03   10:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mininggold (#14)

He claimed that Saddam made a direct and overt threat to take SA's oil as well. Old Poppy was at his Polecat best when it came to this. Iraq would have pulled out of Kuwait had Poppy simply promised not to attack them as they returned to Iraq.

But, as with all things "Bush"...the reverse Midas worked it's magic and here we are...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-11-03   10:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#15)

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-11-03   11:00:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mininggold (#10)

Since we supply the defense forces for Saudi Arabia I would have to assume that we consider them an ally and worth protecting too.

That's why Bush attacked Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia after 9/11.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-11-03   11:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Skip Intro (#18)

That's why Bush attacked Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia after 9/11.

And the need for private contractors would have been minimal if Bush had attacked himself in SA.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-03   11:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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