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Title: Cain Accuser Got a Year’s Salary in Severance Pay
Source:
The New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/02/u ... =2&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha2
Published: Nov 1, 2011
Author: JIM RUTENBERG, JEFF ZELENY and MIKE McIN
Post Date: 2011-11-02 11:42:33 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 16052
Comments: 43
WASHINGTON — The National Restaurant Association gave $35,000 — a year’s salary — in severance pay to a female staff member in the late 1990s after an encounter with Herman Cain, its chief executive at the time, made her uncomfortable working there, three people with direct knowledge of the payment said on Tuesday. The woman was one of two whose accusations of sexual harassment by Mr. Cain, now a Republican candidate for president, led to paid severance agreements during his 1996-99 tenure at the association. Disclosure of the scale of the severance further challenged his initial description of the matter as a “witch hunt,” as did new descriptions from the woman’s friends and colleagues of her level of discomfort at work. Adding to the pressure on Mr. Cain, a lawyer for the second woman called on the restaurant association to release her from a confidentiality agreement signed as part of her settlement, raising the prospect that she could publicly dispute Mr. Cain’s account of what happened. The lawyer said the confidentiality agreement had left her unable to respond to Mr. Cain’s denials of any inappropriate behavior toward the women.
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#4. To: Happy Quanzaa (#2)
Awww...Quay...you sound bitter... I guess all you got was the herpes, eh?
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Another opportunity to exhibit more Tea Bagger voyeurism.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Actually, Cain never signed a confidentiality agreement, so what he has said has no impact on HER signing one in return for one years pay. Second, should she choose to violate her agreement, the NRA has a rock solid lawsuit that will 1) get the 35K originally paid back...2) Treble damages...3) Payment of ALL legal fees associated with this agreement...4) and any financial compensation she might possibly realize as a result of this 'breach of contract'. In that regard, the case law is based upon the same legal reasoning OJ couldn't make a dime off his book. What will come out is which campaign within the GOP primary was responsible for the leak. That blowback from GOP primary voters will most likely kill whichever campaign it was. JMHO.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
A lot of people are missing what 35K annually tells us about where this employee ranked within the NRA.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
You assume that because... (complete the sentence).
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
He's very judgmental...
....and obsessed with the need to remind people of their place in the overall social strata.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Keeping in mind that this was at least 12 years ago, let's put the above statement into perspective by comparing it to a 2009 quote of a local businessman: “Why on earth would I fill a job that’s going to cost me $25,000 a year minimum to get a $6,000 tax credit and have a person sitting around with nothing to do because we don’t have the business? It doesn’t make any sense!"
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
...you're goofy.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Apparently only making $35,000 (in the 1990s) gives the boss a license to harass.
Dammit! I had to change my post because of you!
Boofer is the gift that keeps on giving the whole year through...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
"Now, Boofer employs only five people and is now only a few months from bankruptcy..." which means he's making money.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
That makes no sense.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
I vote for your answer.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Yeah I can't imagine him harassing another executive. That's not how it usually works in sexual harassment cases.
My money says that it's two fat white chicks and I'll bet that Stone, Padlock, Lubey and Gay Quay all agree with me.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
If there had been anything to this shakedown, these sleazy attention whores would have been given a payoff in the 5 digits, not chump change in a years wage.
"OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."
They WERE given a payoff in the 5 digits you dolt. Geez, Murron...seriously...get a GRIP on your life.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
...hence the moniker 'goofy' dear.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Actually its just as likely according to SHRM. And its more likely to be reported to HR in large part because of the higher level of education associated with executive level positions. Its also a very good example why 'imagining' is inferior to 'statistical knowledge' btw.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
I'm beginning to lean towards the woman that got the one year annual salary payout simply wants another payout. That explains why her attorney is talking to various media outlets, but hasn't contacted the NRA to ASK for the confidentiality agreement to be voided. Whats more interesting is who's campaign is actually behind this. Whoever it is, and the media knows exactly according to most accounts, its toast when/if it comes out.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
My thoughts exactly. I'm thinking it's a toss up between Romney and Obama...although there are other's who would like for him to step down. I'm hoping that anyone with a brain cell left to think can see this for what it is, and his support grows.
"OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."
Its more likely to be by someone in a position of power. Are you saying that sexual harassment among executives is just as prevalent? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment Often, but not always, the harasser is in a position of power or authority over the victim (due to differences in age, or social, political, educational or employment relationships)
Thats exactly what I am saying. Its actually no different than physical abuse in th ehome, cuts across all demographics. We just are trained to think otherwise.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
btw, never use wiki for such things. For the obvious reason. Thats why I cited SHRM.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Romney gains nothing from this. Perry and Bachmann sure do however. Their support went to Cain, along with their financial backers. Bottom line is whichever campaign is shown to be behind it is toast. Doesn't matter who it is.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
He has the hots for Bill.
Bottom line is whichever campaign is shown to be behind it is toast. Doesn't matter who it is. You may be right BE! FWIW! "Interviewed today on KTOK's Mullins in the Morning, (Chris) Wilson, of Wilson- Perkins-Allen Opinion Research headquartered in Washington, D.C. explained he was a witness to the incident." Republican Consultant (Chris Wilson) Ties to Rick Perry "Here is a nice little story that says a GOP Consultant saw Herman Cain sexually Harass a staffer. What the interviewer nor any of the national media have asked or care to ask… who in the Presidential campaign have you worked for? Let us answer that question for you. Chris Wilson of Wilson-Perkins-Allen had ties with Rick Perry. That’s right, the Rick Perry who has dropped in the polls like a rock and would use anything he could to rise again. Who is in his way, the Conservative Herman Cain. So here is the story you will hear all day, without mentioning the Elephant in the Room. That Elephant is Rick Perry Predicts end of Cain Presidential campaign if woman is allowed to talk publicly. After all Market research from Wilson Perkins Allen Opinion Research provides unmatched information that can make or break a politician, election, organization, lobbyist, or political objective." SNIP/
"OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."
$35,000 is five digits, you hillbilly moron.
Interviewed today on KTOK's Mullins in the Morning, (Chris) Wilson, of Wilson-Perkins-Allen Opinion Research headquartered in Washington, D.C. explained he was a witness to the incident. Chris Wilson, who is a partner at Wilson, Perkins, Allen Opinion Research in Washington, is a pollster for Make America Great Again, the “super PAC” run by one of Rick Perry’s former top aides. In the 1990s, he worked for Tony Fabrizio, a leading Republican pollster who now is a senior adviser to Mr. Perry’s campaign. Mr. Fabrizio, who joined the Perry campaign last week as a senior adviser and national pollster, worked for Mr. Cain at the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s and during his 2004 Senate bid. He said in an interview that he had no direct knowledge of any sexual harassment allegations against Mr. Cain at the time and was not behind the leak to Politico. Mr. Fabrizio said that Mr. Wilson worked for him on the restaurant association account, but that he never mentioned the allegations at the time. "OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."
I have had sexual harassment training on several occasions. That it is most often between an manager and a subordinate is pretty much common knowledge. Perhaps you have a link to where in the "manual" you learned that it is not.
Whats revealing is Politico didn't do their own investigation. If you read their accounts, you will not find 'A politico investigation has revealed' type lead. This whole smear campaign began at another campaign's headquarters. And surprise, surprise, as predicted alleged 'victim #1' announced via her attorney she will not come forward. The reason is the confidentiality agreement, and the fact a background check on HER would result.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
never use wiki for such things I have had sexual harassment training on several occasions. Being required to sit through a sexual harrassment training session has absolutely nothing to do with why nobody with any common sense avoids citing wiki as a 'valid source'. If you want links, start with SHRM's website. Unlike wiki, its actually legit.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
I feel sorry for you having to sit through PC class. If you tell a woman she is hot, is that sexual harassment? If it is they can take their PC term sexual harassment and stick it up their ****s.
Sorry about that, I had a terrible headache when I posted that. FWIW, when I realized my mistake and couldn't change it, I thought it was pretty damn funny too....
"OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."
You'll have to excuse Boofer. He gets his ass kicked a lot. But rather than try to get smarter he's tried to perfect the art of the mumbleswerve. So far, unsuccessfuly...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
It depends on what you look like. In your case, definitely.
"our blacks are so much better than their blacks" - (M)ann Coulter
Hell, with him it would probably be sexual harassment if he said that to a good looking guy too.
It is a form of sexual harassment but not a severe one and if the person complains the person who said it should be warned that he should stop flirting with her.
#5. To: lucysmom (#3)
and your point is?
#6. To: Ferret Mike (#1)
This begs the question whether Cain has opened the door legally for her to go ahead and talk about it. Even should this not be the case, the dollar amount of the`agreement is so low, i see vested interests opposed to Cain as very likely willing to pay what she would have to pay were she to speak
#7. To: Happy Quanzaa (#2)
#8. To: Badeye (#7)
A lot of people are missing what 35K annually tells us about where this employee ranked within the NRA.
#9. To: lucysmom (#8)
#10. To: Fred Mertz (#9)
He's very judgmental...
#11. To: Badeye (#7)
(Edited)
A lot of people are missing what 35K annually tells us about where this employee ranked within the NRA.
#12. To: lucysmom (#8)
You assume that because... (complete the sentence).
#13. To: lucysmom (#8)
(Edited)
You assume that because... (complete the sentence).
#14. To: war (#11)
“Why on earth would I fill a job that’s going to cost me $25,000 a year minimum to get a $6,000 tax credit and have a person sitting around with nothing to do because we don’t have the business? It doesn’t make any sense!"
#15. To: Skip Intro (#14)
#16. To: Skip Intro (#14)
#17. To: Badeye (#12)
#18. To: Skip Intro (#13)
#19. To: Skip Intro, Badeye (#13)
#20. To: NewsJunky (#19)
#21. To: lucysmom (#0)
The National Restaurant Association gave $35,000 — a year’s salary
#22. To: Murron, Skip Inro, Fred Mertz, lucysmom, Ferret Mike (#21)
If there had been anything to this shakedown, these sleazy attention whores would have been given a payoff in the 5 digits, not chump change in a years wage.
#23. To: lucysmom (#17)
That makes no sense.
#24. To: NewsJunky (#19)
Yeah I can't imagine him harassing another executive. That's not how it usually works in sexual harassment cases.
#25. To: Murron (#21)
#26. To: Badeye (#25)
Whats more interesting is who's campaign is actually behind this. Whoever it is, and the media knows exactly according to most accounts, its toast when/if it comes out.
#27. To: Badeye (#24)
#28. To: NewsJunky (#27)
Are you saying that sexual harassment among executives is just as prevalent?
#29. To: NewsJunky (#27)
#30. To: Murron (#26)
#31. To: lucysmom (#3)
"and your point is?"
#32. To: Badeye (#30)
Perry and Bachmann sure do however. Their support went to Cain, along with their financial backers.
#33. To: Murron (#21)
If there had been anything to this shakedown, these sleazy attention whores would have been given a payoff in the 5 digits, not chump change in a years wage.
#34. To: lucysmom, ALL (#0)
#35. To: Badeye (#29)
(Edited)
never use wiki for such things
#36. To: Murron (#32)
#37. To: NewsJunky (#35)
#38. To: NewsJunky (#35)
I have had sexual harassment training on several occasions.
#39. To: Skip Intro (#33)
(Edited)
$35,000 is five digits, you hillbilly moron.
#40. To: NewsJunky (#35)
#41. To: A K A Stone (#38)
If you tell a woman she is hot, is that sexual harassment?
#42. To: Skip Intro (#41)
"It depends on what you look like. In your case, definitely."
#43. To: A K A Stone (#38)
If you tell a woman she is hot, is that sexual harassment?`
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