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Title: The Verboten Story of Argentina’s Post-Default Economic Success
Source: EconoMonitor
URL Source: http://www.economonitor.com/blog/20 ... post-default-economic-success/
Published: Oct 23, 2011
Author: Yves Smith
Post Date: 2011-11-02 10:32:18 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 4004
Comments: 12

Ever notice nothing is ever said in the mainstream media about Argentina’s economy, save that it had a big default? You’d never know the following about Argentina:

From 2002 onward, Argentina has grown nearly twice as fast as Brazil, and has sported one of the highest growth rates in the world.

Its success is not dependent on a commodities boom.

It has increased social spending from 10.3% of GDP to 14.2% of GDP.

Inequality has fallen. Poverty and extreme poverty have fallen by roughly 2/3.

What is particularly striking is how quickly Argentina’s economy rebounded after its default. From a paper by Mark Weisbrot, Rebecca Ray, Juan A. Montecino, and Sara Kozameh (hat tip reader Thomas Ross):

In December of 2001, the government defaulted on its debt, and a few weeks later it abandoned the currency peg to the dollar. The default and devaluation contributed to a severe financial crisis and a sharp economic contraction, with GDP shrinking by about 5 percent in the first quarter of 2002 and nearly 11% for the full year. However, recovery began after that one quarter of contraction, and continued until the world economic slowdown and recession of 2008-2009. The economy then rebounded, and the IMF now projects growth of 8 percent for 2011.

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#1. To: Not Badeye, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, mininggold, brian s, mcgowanjm (#0)

...the default freed the country from having to be continually hamstrung by a crippling debt burden and by pro-cyclical policies imposed by creditors. It is these types of policies, along with the ultra-conservatism of central banks like the present ECB, that mostly account for the historical experience of delayed recoveries after financial crises.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-02   10:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#1)

*PING*

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-11-02   10:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#1)

Argentina was a one off phenomenom. Their currency was neither a benchmark for anything nor was it a unified currency value dependent up on the health of its components. IN fact, the entities most hurt by the Argentinian default were a couple Canadian banks and a couple Japanese banks.

Global exposure to the nation was not substantial. The Brazil and Mexican debacles several years earlier set off shock waves. Argentina barely elicited a yawn.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-11-02   10:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war (#3)

The Brazil and Mexican debacles several years earlier set off shock waves. Argentina barely elicited a yawn.

Weren't the roots of the crisis different to begin with?

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-02   11:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#4)

Yes.

Brazil and Mexico were overextended. Argemtina was all around in the toilet...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-11-02   11:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#1)

Note that we haven't heard a word from Iceland, the nation that started all of this....;}

Again:

(#4)

You'd think the example provided by Argentina would've wised them up.

O they're wise to it alright.

You've just hit on the ipso facto ergo propter evidence....

The Economic Hitman for details....;}

cheney(on the Trans Afghan Pipeline;) to the Aghans after Powell gave then $72 millio for eradicating Opium which is now at an annual record harvest:

"Agree to this or we'll bomb you back to the Stone Age."

See Libya for details....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-11-02   11:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

Note that we haven't heard a word from Iceland, the nation that started all of this....;}

Shhh

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-02   11:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysmom (#1)

the ultra-conservatism of central banks like the present ECB

I think that's an oxymoron.

Thu, 11/03/2011 - 08:50 | Link to Comment SWRichmond SWRichmond's picture

The Event Horizon would have been if he was allowed to stay and give the Greeks their democratic rights.

+1. The current rumor is that the former head of the Greek central bank will be taking over as president. No kidding.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-11-03   10:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

And MFGlobal anin't over and here comes Jefferies....

Never heard of 'em?

You will....;}

Jefferies Re-Releases Statement Tyler Durden's picture Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/03/2011 10:19 -0400

Jefferies, which two days ago denied, denied, denied, has been forced to release another statement, 48 short hours later. As usual, the excuse used is the "Net exposure" is just $38 million compared to gross of $2.7 billion, a generic claim which was summarily debunked in our previous post.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-11-03   10:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

I'm seeing NET and GROSS being conflated all over the place.

They're going insane.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-11-03   10:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

NEW YORK & LONDON -- November 03, 2011

In response to information published today, Jefferies clarified information relating to its sovereign-debt positions and its interest-income expense.

To be clear, as of August 31, 2011, Jefferies had no meaningful net exposure to European sovereign debt.

"No Meaningful" is financialese for "Insolvent". 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-11-03   10:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mcgowanjm (#8)

Really?

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-03   11:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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